NYSE:MN Manning & Napier Q3 2021 Earnings Report Manning & Napier EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.30Consensus EPS $0.13Beat/MissBeat by +$0.17One Year Ago EPSN/AManning & Napier Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$37.54 millionExpected RevenueN/ABeat/MissN/AYoY Revenue GrowthN/AManning & Napier Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2021Date10/27/2021TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateTuesday, October 26, 2021Conference Call Time8:00PM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Company ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Manning & Napier Q3 2021 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrOctober 26, 2021 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 4 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:01Good evening. My name is Britney, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Manning and Napier Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. Our hosts for today's call are Nicole Kinsley Brunner, Chief Marketing and Strategy Officer Mark Mayer, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer and Paul Petagla, Chief Financial Officer. Today's call is being recorded and will be available for replay beginning at 8 pm Eastern Standard Time today. Operator00:00:28The dial in number is 800-839-5129. No passcode is required. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen only mode. It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to Ms. Nicole Kingsley Bruner. Speaker 100:00:48Thank you, Britney, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today to discuss Manning and Napier's Q3 2021 results. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that certain statements made during this call not based on historical facts, including any statements relating to financial guidance, may be deemed forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Because these forward looking statements involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties, there are important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by these forward looking statements. Manning and Napier assumes no obligation or responsibility to update any forward looking statements. During this call, some comments may include reference to non GAAP financial measures. Speaker 100:01:37Full GAAP reconciliations can be found in our earnings release and related SEC filings. With that, I will turn the call over to our Chief Executive Officer, Mark Mayer. Mark? Speaker 200:01:50Thank you, Nicole. We continue to execute on our investment this quarter, helping clients stay on track towards meeting their objectives, while we make further progress on our strategic initiatives. Our performance for clients was muted for the quarter. The quarter saw flattish to negative absolute returns across much of the equity universe and Flat Returns in Fixed Income. While the S and P 500 rose slightly for the quarter less than 1%, The broader U. Speaker 200:02:21S. Equity market was roughly flat and equities outside the U. S. Declined. Our relative performance was mixed as a somewhat higher percentage of our strategies underperformed, though generally by very small amounts than outperformed. Speaker 200:02:38Most of the figures we will discuss are available on Pages 6 and 7 of the earnings supplement. In our multi asset class strategies, which represent 2 thirds of our AUM. We delivered slightly negative absolute results over the period across all our risk profiles, in all cases broadly consistent with, though very slightly as in tens of basis points behind the subdued returns in global capital markets during the quarter. All our multi asset portfolios are ahead of their benchmarks for the year to date and 3 5 year relative returns remain compelling. This was the Q1 since the pandemic began where broad financial market performance as well as our own multi asset class results were subpar. Speaker 200:03:24From the market bottom in late March of last year, global equities had been on a steady, consistent run as economies have recovered and persistently low bond yields have provided some justification for multiple expansion. This equity strength has more than made up the weak bond market performance over that stretch and our investment teams have capitalized on this environment. In the Q3, however, both equities and debt markets stalled out. To state the obvious, We are living through a remarkable economic event. The U. Speaker 200:03:59S. Recovery from last spring's depths has been so rapid and so strong that we believe the domestic economy is rapidly moving through its economic cycle and is already in a mid cycle phase with some signs even pointing towards a later cycle stage. Although there are economic indicators suggesting that there remains some residual slack in the system, weak labor force participation, for example. Numerous other indicators, including healthy consumer demand, supply chain constraints everywhere, rising commodity prices and the unmistakable uptick inflation are quite extraordinary to see only 1.5 years removed from the sharpest economic contraction in American history. To be clear, economic and company fundamentals remain robust at this time, Financial market valuations are elevated and the rapidly accelerating U. Speaker 200:04:59S. Economic cycle suggests that Systematic risks have begun to build. Our long term outlook for economic growth is still characterized by certain structural headwinds, such as deteriorating demographics and rapidly rising debt levels. As a result of our evolving views, We began to reduce risk in our multi asset class portfolios during the Q3. As we saw last year, Our bottom up research team is agile and can move quickly when they see opportunities emerge and there are certainly compelling investments around the world. Speaker 200:05:37However, at our current positioning, where equity markets to go on a tear, It is unlikely we would deliver better performance than our multi asset class benchmarks. As noted, fixed income returns were muted in the quarter. Our aggregate fixed income composite performed in line with its benchmark, while our tax exempt portfolios declined and underperformed very slightly. The bright spot in fixed income markets remains high yield, up about 1% for the quarter and our high yield fund continued to form as it has all year and over the longer term. This Morningstar 5 star fund ranks in the top decile of its peer group over 1, 3, 5 10 years. Speaker 200:06:24Its inclusion in our multi asset class portfolios has been additive and we are seeing interest from 3rd party advisors. In an environment of such high risk and fixed income characterized by sharply negative real rates and tight credit spreads. How has our credit team been able to add value in high yields? Well, because of our lesser size, we can identify smaller, often unrated bonds that larger investors simply ignore. These credits require substantial research and have contributed to our strong results. Speaker 200:07:02Our unconstrained bond series is similarly capitalizing on our flexible truly active approach. The strategy's goal is to deliver maximum absolute returns with the least amount of risk, and we believe the team is excelling, having provided total returns of 492356 basis points annualized over the past 3 5 years respectively. Results were mixed for our fundamental bottom up equity portfolios. Our U. S. Speaker 200:07:33Core equity composite underperformed slightly, but remains about 100 basis points ahead for the year to date. Our core equity unrestricted and global equity strategies both outperformed for the quarter. Global Equity is 287 basis points ahead for the year. The standout again was the core non U. S. Speaker 200:07:53Equity strategy. Our international equity composite provided 192 basis points of outperformance in a negative return environment this quarter, bolstering the year to date outperformance to nearly 700 basis points. On a 3 5 year rolling basis, The composite is outperforming by 713 and 309 basis points annualized respectively, and it remains well ahead of benchmark over the past 10 20 years. Our real estate series bounced back with a strong quarter, outperforming its MSCI U. S. Speaker 200:08:28REIT benchmark by over 200 basis points. It is now ahead of its benchmark for the year and is well ahead over 3, 5 10 years. REITs have been a bright spot among equities all year, consistent with economic recovery. We believe our strategy is particularly compelling for its consistent emphasis on quality. Our Rayonier International Small Cap strategy underperformed slightly versus a flat benchmark and remains behind for the year. Speaker 200:08:59Outperformance over 3 5 years remains standing for Rainier at 557 and 4.85 basis points respectively. Our disciplined value series modestly formed as the strategies bias the quality within the value style was again a headwind. While investment results overall were muted for this quarter. We are proud of what our investment team has delivered for clients, both recently and over the longer term. We were named Barron's best actively managed fund family for 2020 for a reason, and we look forward to delivering excellent investment results and well architected solutions to clients in the years ahead. Speaker 200:09:42I'd like to now turn to progress on our key strategic initiatives. Net flows remained slightly negative. While we are seeing continued reductions in the rate of outflows, improving gross and net flows in our intermediary business are more than offset by small declines in our institutional and wealth management businesses. As noted last quarter, we made important management changes to accelerate the progress in our sales organizations and we are just beginning to see the fruits of those management changes. The results of our actions and investments lead us to target modestly positive net flows in 2022. Speaker 200:10:25In prior quarters, we said that our most performance sensitive business, the intermediary channel, was the one most likely to see acceleration in the short term, reflecting our strong investment results. This has occurred. We are investing in this channel, hiring new advisor consultants who come to us with significant experience and strong relationships with 3rd party advisors. We are leveraging our positive press such as Lipper Awards and we are seeing good sales momentum across our strategies, Multi Asset Class Strategies, Raythear, International Small Cap, High Yield and International Equity in particular. Our intermediary channel has had positive net flows each quarter this year and we target flows to be positive in 2022. Speaker 200:11:14The rate of client retention in our wealth management business continues at a very high level. However, sales productivity has remained static for the past few quarters despite our increased hiring in this channel. We have added 6 new financial consultants this year on top of the 4 we added in 2020. Why then has new business growth remained muted? Our staffing model in wealth management is distinct from the advisor acquisition strategies prevalent in our industry. Speaker 200:11:48Unlike most competitors, we are not acquiring advisory practices with associated books of business and revenues. We are hiring experienced financial consultants and financial planners, but they come without associated books and they have to do 2 things. 1, they are critical in the transition of some large client books where we have long tenured financial consultants who are retiring or moving into new roles. And 2, they need to develop a pipeline of new business with relationships they have as well as new relationships they develop. This takes time and the results are just beginning to play out. Speaker 200:12:33It's common knowledge that advisory practices are being acquired at unprecedented valuations. The advantage of our approach is that it doesn't increase the capital intensity of our business, but it does emphasize our priorities. For half a century, we have been providing clients with consistently and thoughtfully architected solutions that have many decades of superior audited publicly available returns. We prize our distinctive culture and want to carefully integrate our new hires to ensure that they fully embrace our culture and enrich it. We are patient and are confident that results in wealth management will accelerate over time, and we are targeting positive net flows in Wealth Management in 2022. Speaker 200:13:25Our institutional channel, which is dominated by sizable franchise with Taft Hartley local plans is making progress as well. We are engaging productively with consultants and gradually building towards advocacy. Our dialogues with the professional staff and trustees at our Taft Hartley clients are good as they have broadly experienced strong investment results with us. Establishing us as a growing presence in the institutional market will take time and we project continued outflows in this channel in 2022. We continue to make progress on our extensive, exhaustive digital transformation. Speaker 200:14:06We completed the installation of Workday for human capital management in the quarter on time, on budget, and this was a massive effort. We migrated to Workday for Finance previously, and we are now finally able to integrate talent management, performance reporting, payroll, benefits management, Billing and Payables General Ledger and Financial Planning and Analysis. The benefits of this integration will become visible in both greater efficiency and Increased Effectiveness Beginning Next Year. We are far along in our implementation of Charles River for trade processing and order management and are now fully executing about a quarter of our portfolios in Charles River. We anticipate completing the transition to Charles River around the end of the Q1 of 2022. Speaker 200:14:57Our migration to InvestCloud frontmiddleofficefunctions is coming along. We are simultaneously implementing a new CRM, an advisor portal, new financial planning system, portfolio accounting system and client reporting module. This is needless to say daunting and we are working through many complexities. Further, there are substantial interdependencies with Charles River. So we now anticipate completing the front office CRM and advisor portal by the early part of next year. Speaker 200:15:32The portfolio accounting and client reporting, which are entirely dependent on the completion of Charles River, are slated to go live in mid-twenty 22. In sum, We continue to move forward aggressively on numerous fronts, striving as always to deliver excellent investment outcomes, superior advice and outstanding service to our clients, while ensuring that the firm enjoys profitable growth. Our focus can enable us to deliver superior total returns to shareholders. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Paul for more details on our financials. Paul? Speaker 300:16:14Thank you, Mark. Good afternoon, everyone, and thanks for joining us today. Starting with net client flows and assets under management, AUM at the end of September was $22,000,000,000 down from $22,300,000,000 as of June 30. The decrease in AUM consisted of $157,000,000 of net client outflows in the quarter and $128,000,000 of depreciation stemming from volatility that affected markets during the second half of September. Average AUM was actually up 2% for the quarter. Speaker 300:16:46When compared to September 30, 2020, AUM has increased by $2,700,000,000 or 14%. Gross client inflows were $613,000,000 for the quarter and are approximately $2,000,000,000 for the year to date. On the Wealth Management side, we reported gross inflows of approximately $210,000,000 for the 3rd quarter, which is consistent with the level of production that we've reported during the 1st 2 quarters of 2021. Through September 30, our wealth management team has produced $652,000,000 of gross inflows. We reported intermediary and institutional channel inflows of approximately $400,000,000 for the quarter, which which is down from $570,000,000 reported in Q2 and more in line with our quarterly results from Q1 2021 and throughout 2020. Speaker 300:17:36Year to date we have reported $1,400,000,000 of gross inflows from our intermediary and institutional team. Gross client outflows were again excellent and a testament to our outstanding client service and investment results. Q3 outflows of $770,000,000 represent a 9% improvement when compared to last quarter and a 21% improvement from $980,000,000 of outflows time last year. Our turnover rate for the quarter declined to 14%. Year to date, gross outflows of $2,400,000,000 are well below outflows of $3,300,000,000 this time last year and our separate account retention rate during the quarter remained high, approximately 98%. Speaker 300:18:19By sales team, the wealth management team had $26,000,000 of net outflows during the quarter and the institutional intermediary team had $131,000,000 net outflows. For the Q2 in a row, Net flows for our mutual funds and collective trust were positive, with approximately $6,000,000 of net inflows compared to 163,000,000 of net outflows from our separate accounts. Through September 30, we have had net inflows of approximately $18,000,000 into our funding collective trust, offset by $370,000,000 net out from our separate account. We remain optimistic that the strength of our track records against peers and benchmarks across 1, 3 5 year periods will continue to drive interest in our funding collective strategies and across our entire product set. To wrap up AUM inflows, 3rd quarter net outflows of $157,000,000 when combined with our half year results brings us to $351,000,000 of net outflows for the 1st 9 months of 2021. Speaker 300:19:21We recognize the urgency to turn flows positive to achieve sustainable growth, but we think it's equally important to recognize where we've come from is the level of net outflows we are reporting through September 30 represents a significant improvement from the $1,500,000,000 of net outflows we reported for the 1st 9 months of 2020 and from the levels of net outflows we've experienced in the years prior. Lastly, I want to report that we received notice of a $300,000,000 institutional redemption that will occur in January 2022. It is worthwhile to note that the client's decision to terminate was originally made during 2019. And due to various complications on the client side, further exacerbated by the pandemic, the official redemption notice has now just been provided. Given these unique circumstances, We do not consider this to be indicative of weakness in our offerings. Speaker 300:20:15Our firm has undergone an enormous transformation since this decision was originally made in mid-twenty 19 and we believe that this decision is reflection of where we were then, not where we are today. Despite this news, I will reiterate the point that Mark stated earlier. Our goal remains to be net cash flow positive in 2022. Turning to our Q3 P and L, we reported revenue of $37,500,000 for the quarter, with overall revenue margins of 67 basis points, compared to revenue of $36,100,000 reported last quarter with average fees of 66 basis points. Operating expenses were $28,200,000 in the quarter, no change from last quarter and a $400,000 increase compared to the Q3 of 2020. Speaker 300:21:03When comparing operating expenses against last quarter, other operating costs are down 7%, partially offset by a compensation increase of 2%. Compensation and related costs increased by approximately $400,000 since last quarter. The increase is primarily attributable to increased variable compensation accruals driven by our revenues, along with severance costs that were incurred during the quarter and an increase in payroll costs stemming from additional sales hiring that took place. Compensation related costs as a percentage of revenue were 50% in Q3 and our overall headcount rose slightly to 280. Distribution, servicing and custody expenses increased slightly during the quarter, in line with the growth in revenue. Speaker 300:21:51And other operating expenses decreased by 7% sequentially or $500,000 to 7,000,000 as a result of decreases in consulting fees related to our InvestCloud implementation. Other operating costs as a percentage of revenue have been steady over the last several quarters at 20%, and that was again the case in the 3rd quarter with other operating expenses representing 19% of revenue. With revenue increasing and operating expenses effectively being effectively unchanged for the quarter, we reported a 20% sequential increase in operating income for the Q3 to $9,300,000 with an operating margin of nearly 25%. We reported a modest non operating loss of $73,000 stemming from losses on marketable securities and ceded products on our balance sheet, resulting in pre tax income of $9,200,000 Looking at our non GAAP financial metrics, With $560,000 of strategic restructuring costs during the quarter, we reported economic income of $9,800,000 Our non GAAP effective tax rate returned to the normalized rate of approximately 30% in the 3rd quarter compared to rates in the mid teens during the first half of twenty twenty one. After accounting for our adjusted income taxes, we reported economic net income of $6,900,000 or $0.30 of economic net income per adjusted share, which is generally in line with $0.29 and $0.31 per adjusted share as reported in Q1 and Q2 respectively. Speaker 300:23:29I'll now summarize our results for the year through September 30. We've reported revenue of $108,000,000 up 15% from $94,000,000 this time last year with overall revenue margins of 67 basis points. Our ongoing efforts to control costs and expand profit margins are evidenced by the fact that operating expenses have increased by less than 1% this year to $84,500,000 with an increase of approximately $700,000 in compensation related costs that has been mostly offset by decreases in distribution expenses and other operating costs. When taking a closer look at compensation, we see the compensation related costs of $56,000,000 represent 52% of revenue. While we have increased our variable compensation accruals to reflect the 15% year over year revenue increase that has been mostly offset by the implementation of our preferred compensation program and the one time savings that have been achieved during this initial year of adoption. Speaker 300:24:32The size of our workforce is generally unchanged from this time last year, though the makeup of the workforce has changed as reductions in our middle and back office staff have been offset by 6 net additions to our sales and client service teams. Distribution expenses have decreased by $470,000 as a result of business mix changes since last year, with changes in the mutual fund share classes that do not have distribution fees attached. Other operating expenses of $21,000,000 were generally in line with this time last year and represent 20% of revenue, down from 23% of revenue for the 9 months ended September 30, 2020. As a result, we reported operating income of $23,000,000 compared to $9,000,000 through this time last year. Our year to date non GAAP earnings per adjusted share of $0.90 continues to be a notable improvement from $0.17 per adjusted share in 2020. Speaker 300:25:33Turning to the balance sheet. We reported approximately $90,000,000 in cash and investments as of September 30, an increase of $10,000,000 compared to what we reported on June 30. This change in cash is another example of our improved capital structure with only about 2% of the remaining adjusted shares outstanding held by legacy unitholders. Our simpler, more efficient capital structure allows us to accumulate cash more rapidly, even during periods like Q3 when we have mid year incentive payouts taking place. We continue to maintain a debt free capital structure. Speaker 300:26:10Regarding our return of capital initiatives, Yesterday, we announced that the Board of Directors approved a $0.05 per share Class A dividend for the Q4 following the reinstatement of our dividend last quarter. The pace of share repurchases slowed during the Q3 and through September 30, we have completed $5,700,000 out of the $10,000,000 authorized by our Board of Directors at the start of the year. Upon payout of the 4th quarter dividend next month, We will have returned $1,900,000 of cash to shareholders through the dividend. And in total, we will have returned nearly $8,000,000 of build to shareholders during 2021 prior to considering any remaining share purchases that may take place. We'll provide further updates on our progress in returning capital to shareholders on our next call. Speaker 300:27:03Turning to ownership. Our adjusted share count decreased during the quarter by approximately 200,000 shares to 23,000,000 adjusted shares outstanding as of September 30. The components of our adjusted shares outstanding are provided on Slide 15 in the investor supplement. As of September 30, Our employees and directors own approximately 36% of the adjusted share count, including unvested awards and approximately 23% of the votable Class A common stock. As we look ahead, there are upcoming vestings of previously awarded restricted stock units that will take place in December 2021 and and again in February 2022. Speaker 300:27:43These unvested RSUs are already accounted for in the adjusted share count of 23,000,000. However, upon vesting, they will be added to the Class A share count. We are estimating that the Class A share count will increase by approximately 600,000 shares when these awards vest, though the precise amount will not be known until the time of vesting. In connection with the vesting of equity awards and the exchange of stock options, our historical practice has been to withhold shares of Class A common stock to satisfy employee income tax withholding requirements. These net share settlements have the effect of shares repurchased and hired by the company. Speaker 300:28:26As a result, we expect the Class A shares outstanding will increase as a result of the RSU vestings and the adjusted shares outstanding will decline because of the way taxes are settled upon vesting. We'll provide updated share count metrics on our next call. In closing, our goals for 2022 are clear. 1st and foremost, we must continue to deliver exceptional investment results for our existing clients to help them achieve their financial goals. We must leverage those strong investment results along with increased sales activity to boost gross client inflows in turn net client flows positive. Speaker 300:29:08Sustainable top line growth will be our best way to achieve margin expansion and further increase shareholder value. Thinking more about our 2022 P and L, We remain committed to managing our overall cost structure, including headcount, prudently given our current revenues. We are equally committed to continuing to make investments in our business to support growth initiatives. We expect to continue accumulating cash from operations that can be deployed to support strategic initiatives or to return to shareholders, especially with the majority of our spending to support the digital transformation now behind us. That said, It is also important to remember that our 2022 P and L will include an increase in non cash expenses as a result of the technology related investments that have been made over the past few years, namely depreciation and amortization. Speaker 300:30:05The amount of depreciation and amortization and the timing of when those non cash expenses begin to ramp up will be contingent on the remaining costs incurred and the timing of final completion of these technology installations over the next few quarters. It is a plausible scenario that during 2022, We will generate strong cash from operations from earnings with earnings that decrease compared to 2021 as a result of these non cash expenses. Under virtually all P and L scenarios, however, our balance sheet will continue to be an area of strength and afford us the opportunity to pursue initiatives that will be in the best interest of clients, while also driving value for shareholders. That concludes today's call. If you have any questions on the topics we've addressed today, please contact us using the inquiries portal on our Investor Relations Web site and will promptly address your inquiry. Speaker 300:31:03Thank you again for listening and for your interest in Manning and Napier. And I'll now turn the call back over to the operator to wrap up. Operator? Operator00:31:12Thank you. This does conclude today's conference call. 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There are 4 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:01Good evening. My name is Britney, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Manning and Napier Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. Our hosts for today's call are Nicole Kinsley Brunner, Chief Marketing and Strategy Officer Mark Mayer, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer and Paul Petagla, Chief Financial Officer. Today's call is being recorded and will be available for replay beginning at 8 pm Eastern Standard Time today. Operator00:00:28The dial in number is 800-839-5129. No passcode is required. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen only mode. It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to Ms. Nicole Kingsley Bruner. Speaker 100:00:48Thank you, Britney, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today to discuss Manning and Napier's Q3 2021 results. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that certain statements made during this call not based on historical facts, including any statements relating to financial guidance, may be deemed forward looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Because these forward looking statements involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties, there are important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by these forward looking statements. Manning and Napier assumes no obligation or responsibility to update any forward looking statements. During this call, some comments may include reference to non GAAP financial measures. Speaker 100:01:37Full GAAP reconciliations can be found in our earnings release and related SEC filings. With that, I will turn the call over to our Chief Executive Officer, Mark Mayer. Mark? Speaker 200:01:50Thank you, Nicole. We continue to execute on our investment this quarter, helping clients stay on track towards meeting their objectives, while we make further progress on our strategic initiatives. Our performance for clients was muted for the quarter. The quarter saw flattish to negative absolute returns across much of the equity universe and Flat Returns in Fixed Income. While the S and P 500 rose slightly for the quarter less than 1%, The broader U. Speaker 200:02:21S. Equity market was roughly flat and equities outside the U. S. Declined. Our relative performance was mixed as a somewhat higher percentage of our strategies underperformed, though generally by very small amounts than outperformed. Speaker 200:02:38Most of the figures we will discuss are available on Pages 6 and 7 of the earnings supplement. In our multi asset class strategies, which represent 2 thirds of our AUM. We delivered slightly negative absolute results over the period across all our risk profiles, in all cases broadly consistent with, though very slightly as in tens of basis points behind the subdued returns in global capital markets during the quarter. All our multi asset portfolios are ahead of their benchmarks for the year to date and 3 5 year relative returns remain compelling. This was the Q1 since the pandemic began where broad financial market performance as well as our own multi asset class results were subpar. Speaker 200:03:24From the market bottom in late March of last year, global equities had been on a steady, consistent run as economies have recovered and persistently low bond yields have provided some justification for multiple expansion. This equity strength has more than made up the weak bond market performance over that stretch and our investment teams have capitalized on this environment. In the Q3, however, both equities and debt markets stalled out. To state the obvious, We are living through a remarkable economic event. The U. Speaker 200:03:59S. Recovery from last spring's depths has been so rapid and so strong that we believe the domestic economy is rapidly moving through its economic cycle and is already in a mid cycle phase with some signs even pointing towards a later cycle stage. Although there are economic indicators suggesting that there remains some residual slack in the system, weak labor force participation, for example. Numerous other indicators, including healthy consumer demand, supply chain constraints everywhere, rising commodity prices and the unmistakable uptick inflation are quite extraordinary to see only 1.5 years removed from the sharpest economic contraction in American history. To be clear, economic and company fundamentals remain robust at this time, Financial market valuations are elevated and the rapidly accelerating U. Speaker 200:04:59S. Economic cycle suggests that Systematic risks have begun to build. Our long term outlook for economic growth is still characterized by certain structural headwinds, such as deteriorating demographics and rapidly rising debt levels. As a result of our evolving views, We began to reduce risk in our multi asset class portfolios during the Q3. As we saw last year, Our bottom up research team is agile and can move quickly when they see opportunities emerge and there are certainly compelling investments around the world. Speaker 200:05:37However, at our current positioning, where equity markets to go on a tear, It is unlikely we would deliver better performance than our multi asset class benchmarks. As noted, fixed income returns were muted in the quarter. Our aggregate fixed income composite performed in line with its benchmark, while our tax exempt portfolios declined and underperformed very slightly. The bright spot in fixed income markets remains high yield, up about 1% for the quarter and our high yield fund continued to form as it has all year and over the longer term. This Morningstar 5 star fund ranks in the top decile of its peer group over 1, 3, 5 10 years. Speaker 200:06:24Its inclusion in our multi asset class portfolios has been additive and we are seeing interest from 3rd party advisors. In an environment of such high risk and fixed income characterized by sharply negative real rates and tight credit spreads. How has our credit team been able to add value in high yields? Well, because of our lesser size, we can identify smaller, often unrated bonds that larger investors simply ignore. These credits require substantial research and have contributed to our strong results. Speaker 200:07:02Our unconstrained bond series is similarly capitalizing on our flexible truly active approach. The strategy's goal is to deliver maximum absolute returns with the least amount of risk, and we believe the team is excelling, having provided total returns of 492356 basis points annualized over the past 3 5 years respectively. Results were mixed for our fundamental bottom up equity portfolios. Our U. S. Speaker 200:07:33Core equity composite underperformed slightly, but remains about 100 basis points ahead for the year to date. Our core equity unrestricted and global equity strategies both outperformed for the quarter. Global Equity is 287 basis points ahead for the year. The standout again was the core non U. S. Speaker 200:07:53Equity strategy. Our international equity composite provided 192 basis points of outperformance in a negative return environment this quarter, bolstering the year to date outperformance to nearly 700 basis points. On a 3 5 year rolling basis, The composite is outperforming by 713 and 309 basis points annualized respectively, and it remains well ahead of benchmark over the past 10 20 years. Our real estate series bounced back with a strong quarter, outperforming its MSCI U. S. Speaker 200:08:28REIT benchmark by over 200 basis points. It is now ahead of its benchmark for the year and is well ahead over 3, 5 10 years. REITs have been a bright spot among equities all year, consistent with economic recovery. We believe our strategy is particularly compelling for its consistent emphasis on quality. Our Rayonier International Small Cap strategy underperformed slightly versus a flat benchmark and remains behind for the year. Speaker 200:08:59Outperformance over 3 5 years remains standing for Rainier at 557 and 4.85 basis points respectively. Our disciplined value series modestly formed as the strategies bias the quality within the value style was again a headwind. While investment results overall were muted for this quarter. We are proud of what our investment team has delivered for clients, both recently and over the longer term. We were named Barron's best actively managed fund family for 2020 for a reason, and we look forward to delivering excellent investment results and well architected solutions to clients in the years ahead. Speaker 200:09:42I'd like to now turn to progress on our key strategic initiatives. Net flows remained slightly negative. While we are seeing continued reductions in the rate of outflows, improving gross and net flows in our intermediary business are more than offset by small declines in our institutional and wealth management businesses. As noted last quarter, we made important management changes to accelerate the progress in our sales organizations and we are just beginning to see the fruits of those management changes. The results of our actions and investments lead us to target modestly positive net flows in 2022. Speaker 200:10:25In prior quarters, we said that our most performance sensitive business, the intermediary channel, was the one most likely to see acceleration in the short term, reflecting our strong investment results. This has occurred. We are investing in this channel, hiring new advisor consultants who come to us with significant experience and strong relationships with 3rd party advisors. We are leveraging our positive press such as Lipper Awards and we are seeing good sales momentum across our strategies, Multi Asset Class Strategies, Raythear, International Small Cap, High Yield and International Equity in particular. Our intermediary channel has had positive net flows each quarter this year and we target flows to be positive in 2022. Speaker 200:11:14The rate of client retention in our wealth management business continues at a very high level. However, sales productivity has remained static for the past few quarters despite our increased hiring in this channel. We have added 6 new financial consultants this year on top of the 4 we added in 2020. Why then has new business growth remained muted? Our staffing model in wealth management is distinct from the advisor acquisition strategies prevalent in our industry. Speaker 200:11:48Unlike most competitors, we are not acquiring advisory practices with associated books of business and revenues. We are hiring experienced financial consultants and financial planners, but they come without associated books and they have to do 2 things. 1, they are critical in the transition of some large client books where we have long tenured financial consultants who are retiring or moving into new roles. And 2, they need to develop a pipeline of new business with relationships they have as well as new relationships they develop. This takes time and the results are just beginning to play out. Speaker 200:12:33It's common knowledge that advisory practices are being acquired at unprecedented valuations. The advantage of our approach is that it doesn't increase the capital intensity of our business, but it does emphasize our priorities. For half a century, we have been providing clients with consistently and thoughtfully architected solutions that have many decades of superior audited publicly available returns. We prize our distinctive culture and want to carefully integrate our new hires to ensure that they fully embrace our culture and enrich it. We are patient and are confident that results in wealth management will accelerate over time, and we are targeting positive net flows in Wealth Management in 2022. Speaker 200:13:25Our institutional channel, which is dominated by sizable franchise with Taft Hartley local plans is making progress as well. We are engaging productively with consultants and gradually building towards advocacy. Our dialogues with the professional staff and trustees at our Taft Hartley clients are good as they have broadly experienced strong investment results with us. Establishing us as a growing presence in the institutional market will take time and we project continued outflows in this channel in 2022. We continue to make progress on our extensive, exhaustive digital transformation. Speaker 200:14:06We completed the installation of Workday for human capital management in the quarter on time, on budget, and this was a massive effort. We migrated to Workday for Finance previously, and we are now finally able to integrate talent management, performance reporting, payroll, benefits management, Billing and Payables General Ledger and Financial Planning and Analysis. The benefits of this integration will become visible in both greater efficiency and Increased Effectiveness Beginning Next Year. We are far along in our implementation of Charles River for trade processing and order management and are now fully executing about a quarter of our portfolios in Charles River. We anticipate completing the transition to Charles River around the end of the Q1 of 2022. Speaker 200:14:57Our migration to InvestCloud frontmiddleofficefunctions is coming along. We are simultaneously implementing a new CRM, an advisor portal, new financial planning system, portfolio accounting system and client reporting module. This is needless to say daunting and we are working through many complexities. Further, there are substantial interdependencies with Charles River. So we now anticipate completing the front office CRM and advisor portal by the early part of next year. Speaker 200:15:32The portfolio accounting and client reporting, which are entirely dependent on the completion of Charles River, are slated to go live in mid-twenty 22. In sum, We continue to move forward aggressively on numerous fronts, striving as always to deliver excellent investment outcomes, superior advice and outstanding service to our clients, while ensuring that the firm enjoys profitable growth. Our focus can enable us to deliver superior total returns to shareholders. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Paul for more details on our financials. Paul? Speaker 300:16:14Thank you, Mark. Good afternoon, everyone, and thanks for joining us today. Starting with net client flows and assets under management, AUM at the end of September was $22,000,000,000 down from $22,300,000,000 as of June 30. The decrease in AUM consisted of $157,000,000 of net client outflows in the quarter and $128,000,000 of depreciation stemming from volatility that affected markets during the second half of September. Average AUM was actually up 2% for the quarter. Speaker 300:16:46When compared to September 30, 2020, AUM has increased by $2,700,000,000 or 14%. Gross client inflows were $613,000,000 for the quarter and are approximately $2,000,000,000 for the year to date. On the Wealth Management side, we reported gross inflows of approximately $210,000,000 for the 3rd quarter, which is consistent with the level of production that we've reported during the 1st 2 quarters of 2021. Through September 30, our wealth management team has produced $652,000,000 of gross inflows. We reported intermediary and institutional channel inflows of approximately $400,000,000 for the quarter, which which is down from $570,000,000 reported in Q2 and more in line with our quarterly results from Q1 2021 and throughout 2020. Speaker 300:17:36Year to date we have reported $1,400,000,000 of gross inflows from our intermediary and institutional team. Gross client outflows were again excellent and a testament to our outstanding client service and investment results. Q3 outflows of $770,000,000 represent a 9% improvement when compared to last quarter and a 21% improvement from $980,000,000 of outflows time last year. Our turnover rate for the quarter declined to 14%. Year to date, gross outflows of $2,400,000,000 are well below outflows of $3,300,000,000 this time last year and our separate account retention rate during the quarter remained high, approximately 98%. Speaker 300:18:19By sales team, the wealth management team had $26,000,000 of net outflows during the quarter and the institutional intermediary team had $131,000,000 net outflows. For the Q2 in a row, Net flows for our mutual funds and collective trust were positive, with approximately $6,000,000 of net inflows compared to 163,000,000 of net outflows from our separate accounts. Through September 30, we have had net inflows of approximately $18,000,000 into our funding collective trust, offset by $370,000,000 net out from our separate account. We remain optimistic that the strength of our track records against peers and benchmarks across 1, 3 5 year periods will continue to drive interest in our funding collective strategies and across our entire product set. To wrap up AUM inflows, 3rd quarter net outflows of $157,000,000 when combined with our half year results brings us to $351,000,000 of net outflows for the 1st 9 months of 2021. Speaker 300:19:21We recognize the urgency to turn flows positive to achieve sustainable growth, but we think it's equally important to recognize where we've come from is the level of net outflows we are reporting through September 30 represents a significant improvement from the $1,500,000,000 of net outflows we reported for the 1st 9 months of 2020 and from the levels of net outflows we've experienced in the years prior. Lastly, I want to report that we received notice of a $300,000,000 institutional redemption that will occur in January 2022. It is worthwhile to note that the client's decision to terminate was originally made during 2019. And due to various complications on the client side, further exacerbated by the pandemic, the official redemption notice has now just been provided. Given these unique circumstances, We do not consider this to be indicative of weakness in our offerings. Speaker 300:20:15Our firm has undergone an enormous transformation since this decision was originally made in mid-twenty 19 and we believe that this decision is reflection of where we were then, not where we are today. Despite this news, I will reiterate the point that Mark stated earlier. Our goal remains to be net cash flow positive in 2022. Turning to our Q3 P and L, we reported revenue of $37,500,000 for the quarter, with overall revenue margins of 67 basis points, compared to revenue of $36,100,000 reported last quarter with average fees of 66 basis points. Operating expenses were $28,200,000 in the quarter, no change from last quarter and a $400,000 increase compared to the Q3 of 2020. Speaker 300:21:03When comparing operating expenses against last quarter, other operating costs are down 7%, partially offset by a compensation increase of 2%. Compensation and related costs increased by approximately $400,000 since last quarter. The increase is primarily attributable to increased variable compensation accruals driven by our revenues, along with severance costs that were incurred during the quarter and an increase in payroll costs stemming from additional sales hiring that took place. Compensation related costs as a percentage of revenue were 50% in Q3 and our overall headcount rose slightly to 280. Distribution, servicing and custody expenses increased slightly during the quarter, in line with the growth in revenue. Speaker 300:21:51And other operating expenses decreased by 7% sequentially or $500,000 to 7,000,000 as a result of decreases in consulting fees related to our InvestCloud implementation. Other operating costs as a percentage of revenue have been steady over the last several quarters at 20%, and that was again the case in the 3rd quarter with other operating expenses representing 19% of revenue. With revenue increasing and operating expenses effectively being effectively unchanged for the quarter, we reported a 20% sequential increase in operating income for the Q3 to $9,300,000 with an operating margin of nearly 25%. We reported a modest non operating loss of $73,000 stemming from losses on marketable securities and ceded products on our balance sheet, resulting in pre tax income of $9,200,000 Looking at our non GAAP financial metrics, With $560,000 of strategic restructuring costs during the quarter, we reported economic income of $9,800,000 Our non GAAP effective tax rate returned to the normalized rate of approximately 30% in the 3rd quarter compared to rates in the mid teens during the first half of twenty twenty one. After accounting for our adjusted income taxes, we reported economic net income of $6,900,000 or $0.30 of economic net income per adjusted share, which is generally in line with $0.29 and $0.31 per adjusted share as reported in Q1 and Q2 respectively. Speaker 300:23:29I'll now summarize our results for the year through September 30. We've reported revenue of $108,000,000 up 15% from $94,000,000 this time last year with overall revenue margins of 67 basis points. Our ongoing efforts to control costs and expand profit margins are evidenced by the fact that operating expenses have increased by less than 1% this year to $84,500,000 with an increase of approximately $700,000 in compensation related costs that has been mostly offset by decreases in distribution expenses and other operating costs. When taking a closer look at compensation, we see the compensation related costs of $56,000,000 represent 52% of revenue. While we have increased our variable compensation accruals to reflect the 15% year over year revenue increase that has been mostly offset by the implementation of our preferred compensation program and the one time savings that have been achieved during this initial year of adoption. Speaker 300:24:32The size of our workforce is generally unchanged from this time last year, though the makeup of the workforce has changed as reductions in our middle and back office staff have been offset by 6 net additions to our sales and client service teams. Distribution expenses have decreased by $470,000 as a result of business mix changes since last year, with changes in the mutual fund share classes that do not have distribution fees attached. Other operating expenses of $21,000,000 were generally in line with this time last year and represent 20% of revenue, down from 23% of revenue for the 9 months ended September 30, 2020. As a result, we reported operating income of $23,000,000 compared to $9,000,000 through this time last year. Our year to date non GAAP earnings per adjusted share of $0.90 continues to be a notable improvement from $0.17 per adjusted share in 2020. Speaker 300:25:33Turning to the balance sheet. We reported approximately $90,000,000 in cash and investments as of September 30, an increase of $10,000,000 compared to what we reported on June 30. This change in cash is another example of our improved capital structure with only about 2% of the remaining adjusted shares outstanding held by legacy unitholders. Our simpler, more efficient capital structure allows us to accumulate cash more rapidly, even during periods like Q3 when we have mid year incentive payouts taking place. We continue to maintain a debt free capital structure. Speaker 300:26:10Regarding our return of capital initiatives, Yesterday, we announced that the Board of Directors approved a $0.05 per share Class A dividend for the Q4 following the reinstatement of our dividend last quarter. The pace of share repurchases slowed during the Q3 and through September 30, we have completed $5,700,000 out of the $10,000,000 authorized by our Board of Directors at the start of the year. Upon payout of the 4th quarter dividend next month, We will have returned $1,900,000 of cash to shareholders through the dividend. And in total, we will have returned nearly $8,000,000 of build to shareholders during 2021 prior to considering any remaining share purchases that may take place. We'll provide further updates on our progress in returning capital to shareholders on our next call. Speaker 300:27:03Turning to ownership. Our adjusted share count decreased during the quarter by approximately 200,000 shares to 23,000,000 adjusted shares outstanding as of September 30. The components of our adjusted shares outstanding are provided on Slide 15 in the investor supplement. As of September 30, Our employees and directors own approximately 36% of the adjusted share count, including unvested awards and approximately 23% of the votable Class A common stock. As we look ahead, there are upcoming vestings of previously awarded restricted stock units that will take place in December 2021 and and again in February 2022. Speaker 300:27:43These unvested RSUs are already accounted for in the adjusted share count of 23,000,000. However, upon vesting, they will be added to the Class A share count. We are estimating that the Class A share count will increase by approximately 600,000 shares when these awards vest, though the precise amount will not be known until the time of vesting. In connection with the vesting of equity awards and the exchange of stock options, our historical practice has been to withhold shares of Class A common stock to satisfy employee income tax withholding requirements. These net share settlements have the effect of shares repurchased and hired by the company. Speaker 300:28:26As a result, we expect the Class A shares outstanding will increase as a result of the RSU vestings and the adjusted shares outstanding will decline because of the way taxes are settled upon vesting. We'll provide updated share count metrics on our next call. In closing, our goals for 2022 are clear. 1st and foremost, we must continue to deliver exceptional investment results for our existing clients to help them achieve their financial goals. We must leverage those strong investment results along with increased sales activity to boost gross client inflows in turn net client flows positive. Speaker 300:29:08Sustainable top line growth will be our best way to achieve margin expansion and further increase shareholder value. Thinking more about our 2022 P and L, We remain committed to managing our overall cost structure, including headcount, prudently given our current revenues. We are equally committed to continuing to make investments in our business to support growth initiatives. We expect to continue accumulating cash from operations that can be deployed to support strategic initiatives or to return to shareholders, especially with the majority of our spending to support the digital transformation now behind us. That said, It is also important to remember that our 2022 P and L will include an increase in non cash expenses as a result of the technology related investments that have been made over the past few years, namely depreciation and amortization. Speaker 300:30:05The amount of depreciation and amortization and the timing of when those non cash expenses begin to ramp up will be contingent on the remaining costs incurred and the timing of final completion of these technology installations over the next few quarters. It is a plausible scenario that during 2022, We will generate strong cash from operations from earnings with earnings that decrease compared to 2021 as a result of these non cash expenses. Under virtually all P and L scenarios, however, our balance sheet will continue to be an area of strength and afford us the opportunity to pursue initiatives that will be in the best interest of clients, while also driving value for shareholders. That concludes today's call. If you have any questions on the topics we've addressed today, please contact us using the inquiries portal on our Investor Relations Web site and will promptly address your inquiry. Speaker 300:31:03Thank you again for listening and for your interest in Manning and Napier. And I'll now turn the call back over to the operator to wrap up. Operator? Operator00:31:12Thank you. This does conclude today's conference call. Please disconnect your line at this time and have a wonderful day.Read morePowered by