Eli Lilly and Company Q3 2021 [Q&A] Earnings Call Transcript

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There are 14 speakers on the call.

Operator

I'd now

Speaker 1

like to turn this call over to your host, Ms. Melissa Poole, Vice President of Investor Relations for The Hershey Company. Thank you. You may begin.

Speaker 2

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today for The Hershey Company's Q3 2021 earnings Q and A session. I hope everyone has had the chance to read our press release and listen to our prerecorded management Discussion, both of which are available on our website. In addition, we have posted a transcript of the prerecorded remarks. At the conclusion of today's live Q and A session, we will also post a transcript and audio replay of Please note that during today's Q and A session, we may make forward looking statements that are subject to various risks and uncertainties.

Speaker 2

These statements include expectations and regarding the company's future operations and financial performance, including expectations and assumptions related to the impact of the COVID-nineteen pandemic. Actual results could differ materially from those projected as a result of the COVID-nineteen pandemic as well as other factors. The company undertakes no obligation to update these statements based on subsequent events. A detailed listing of such risks and uncertainties can be found in today's press release and the company's SEC filings. Finally, please note that we may refer to certain non GAAP The presentation of this information is not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for the financial information presented in accordance with GAAP.

Speaker 2

Reconciliations to the GAAP results are included in this morning's press release. Joining me today are Hershey's Chairman and CEO, Michelle Buck and Hershey's Senior Vice President and CFO, Steve Voskull.

Speaker 1

Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. One moment while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from the line of Jason English with Goldman Sachs, you may proceed with your question.

Speaker 3

Hey, good morning folks. Thanks for spotting me up. Good morning. Good morning. Congrats on a strong quarter, particularly given the strength that you cited in the prior year.

Speaker 3

But despite the strength, I can't help but remember that Jaree snacks have lost some of their sweetness pre COVID with little, if any, volumetric growth. COVID has clearly rejuvenated demand. In your capacity expansion seems to suggest that you believe that demand is going to stick. So my question for you is why? Why shouldn't we believe that that demand is just going to leak back out in the next year or 2?

Operator

Yes, Jason. So as we look at the growth that we've seen, the category growth has really been pretty broad based. It's really cut across regions. It's cut across cohorts. As we speak with consumers, We hear that some of that elevation of those take home behaviors and new routines that occurred during COVID That some of those will stick and sustain, perhaps not all of them, not to the degree to which people were Suggested that they shouldn't leave their homes, but we do believe that some of those will stick and stay around based on what we're hearing and seeing.

Operator

And we do also see some of that continued strength As people are out and about and mobility increases and that we're seeing a pretty good balance there. The other thing we've heard from consumers Repeatedly that we've seen over the years is kind of the emotional aspect of the category and how it fits with kind of good and happy moments. And as those happy moments have continued to increase as people, I think, are starting to believe they see somewhat of A light at the end of the tunnel in us working through the pandemic, those moments of happiness that were really associated with, We see continuing. So that's really our perspective is a lot of those routines we think some of which will just continue into the future. That said, there are a lot of unknowns.

Operator

We certainly none of us knew any of this was going to happen and so we can't perfectly predict the future. As it comes to capacity investments, what we've tried to do is be really prudent in our investment strategy. So we've leaned in, in places on brands where we have clearly seen sustained growth over time. And There's a lot of proof points that that capacity will pay off. Reese is a great example of that.

Operator

Frankly, there are a couple of other places where we had elevated demand that Yes, we held for a bit before leaning into that capacity until we really thought we were at a point where we could guarantee the ROI. So it is a bit of a balancing act, but At this point, we are bullish on the future.

Speaker 3

That's helpful context. Thank you. And I too like happy moments. One more question, then I'll pass it on. In your prepared remarks, you touched on your collaborative space planning with retailers and resulting acceleration growth for both you and your categories.

Speaker 3

Can you elaborate a bit on that? What's going on with the initiative and maybe provide some specifics on the changes that are being enacted by the retailers? Thank you. I'll pass it on to

Speaker 4

Beth. Yes.

Speaker 1

I'm sorry. Can you just repeat

Operator

the very first part of the question I missed?

Speaker 3

Well, your collaborative space planning for retailers.

Operator

Yes, we were talking about

Speaker 3

it in your prepared remarks. So give us more specifics. Like what is it? What's happened? What are the changes that

Speaker 5

are being enacted on the

Speaker 3

back end of it?

Operator

Yes, absolutely. So I would say over time, given that strong partnership we've had with retailers And particularly a lot of our category management expertise around analytics, we've always partnered with retailers in terms of How to think about the placement of confection in their store and ways to optimize category growth, Whether that's looking at heat maps of how people travel through convenience stores or years back when we found underutilized Under the checkout counter and convenience stores and we put category there. Recently, a lot of the focus From our retailers, there's been a big focus around the labor shortage and thus a push for even more presence of self checkout. So we've partnered really closely with those retailers to increase the presence of the category at self checkout To maximize the presence in those queuing lines leading up to checkout and particularly self checkout, I mean, it's a perfect fit with some of the struggles they're having around labor And a great opportunity to get the category out there and make sure that people don't miss that chance to have that last impulse purchase. So I think our retailers are always focused on what's going on in the environment that they need to address in terms of their store layout.

Operator

And fortunately, we've been able to help them with some of that.

Speaker 3

Makes a lot of sense. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from the line of Andrew Lazar with Barclays. You may proceed with your question.

Speaker 6

Great. Thanks so much. Maybe just first off, I was hoping you could talk a little bit about what you're seeing in terms of competitive response with respect To the pricing moves that you've announced, and how that impacts your expectations on elasticity, because obviously thus far, while early, It would seem like volume trends have held up remarkably well in response to the pricing that you've taken.

Operator

Sure. So as we have always seen in this category, it tends to be a very rational category relative to pricing. So, our most recent pricing actions are on track and we have seen several competitors take pricing this year, including over the past several weeks, and we don't really expect that we'll see any material Changes in pricing on shelf versus the competition, any changes in GAAP, etcetera.

Speaker 6

Great. And then, I guess more to Steve. I certainly understand all the moving parts on the supply chain right now, which makes getting overly specific, right, on 2022, certainly a bit of a challenge. But if we take it from the top line, Certainly a bit of a challenge. But if we take it from the top line, consumption trends remain very elevated.

Speaker 6

Hershey's got more pricing coming through And it's had inventories depleted for really what will be, I guess, 2 years in a row. So I would think all these things provide a reasonably good line of sight To at least kind of an on algorithm sort of type a year, at least on sales in 2022, again, unless I'm sort of missing something and please point it out if I am. On the profitability side next year, obviously, you've already talked about and I understand there'll be supply chain pressures at least through the first half of the year. I guess my question is, Would you expect that year over year gross margin pressure to sort of sequentially improve As you move through the first half as sort of the pricing flows through and you make improvements to the supply chain or Our gross margin pressures potentially expected to be as, let's say, severe in the first half as maybe what you're seeing in the back half of this year.

Speaker 4

Sure. Maybe I'll just start with the top line as you started. I think you're right. As we look at it today, it's hard to point to something that would say you don't have an on Algorithm top line, we'll have momentum coming out of this year. We've got the long Easter.

Speaker 4

You mentioned pricing, which will be a bigger factor next year than it was this year. We also would hope we see some capacity improvements, would give us some upside. And then at some point inventory replenishment, I think that's hard to call, But that we would expect to see some of that certainly over the course of next year. So still volatile, but I agree with the first premise. And then As you get into gross margin, I think there still are a lot of moving pieces.

Speaker 4

Some of the things I think we can directionally point to, obviously, the pricing will have a tailwind on gross margin. As we look at raw materials, raw material inflation wasn't a big factor for us this year. We expect it will be a bigger factor as we look at next year. Logistics inflation that we're seeing now, I don't think we see a reason yet for that to break at least through the first half of next year. We'll have less spot market activity Because some of the we'll be, say, better positioned for some of the stronger consumer demand than we were particularly in the Q3.

Speaker 4

We still expect to see some labor inflation. And as said in the prepared remarks, we've increased headcount to respond to some of the additional demand. Packaging inflation in resins, I think we keep waiting for that to break and it's probably But it hasn't reverted back to other levels or lower levels. So I think at least through the first half, we're going to see that still remain a pressure point. And then we'll see how capacity plays out in the broader supply chain network, the challenges we've had with logistics and trucks warehousing and all of those labor implications.

Speaker 4

So when you step back from all of that, I'd say the gross margin piece still has a lot of moving pieces. I think we'll give more clarity, Obviously, when we get to February and provide full guidance, but right now I'd say particularly through the first half of the year, we're going to see a lot of those cost pressures In place.

Speaker 6

Great. Thanks so much.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from the line of Robert Moskow with Credit Suisse, you may proceed with your question.

Speaker 5

Hi. Michelle, I wanted to ask about the decision to reduce I guess it makes sense in the context of supply chain challenges and if you can't get the inventory where you want, Why advertise? But the stock has done well and your sales have done well because of the market share gains. And I just wanted to know if you think there's risk to market share erosion from this decision. Do you think your competitors are doing the same thing, so it won't matter?

Speaker 5

How did you evaluate the risk and reward of that?

Operator

Yes. So first of all, I would say there is not a strategic change to our business model. We remain committed to investing in brands at some of Highest levels in our industry across the peer group. So there's nothing that has changed about the strategy. So I want to be clear about that.

Operator

Yes. As we looked at the decision, it really was driven by the fact that we have such elevated demand. And given that The supply chain challenges just wouldn't enable us to be able to meet the further demand that we would create through our very impactful advertising That it just didn't make sense. It put more pressure on the supply chain and also we probably wouldn't get a good ROI because we wouldn't be able to fulfill that incremental Demand. If we look at our market share right now, we don't think that the advertising cuts that we have executed Impacted our share in Q3, and we're not the only ones having supply chain challenges and issues.

Operator

So overall, I think across the board, even in the industry, we're seeing a lot of people manage Advertising to supply as a challenge. We'll continue to focus on optimizing it. We will invest as much as we can, as much as we think we can sell. Certainly, we're investing in capacity going forward and we are very agile in how we're handling support behind our brands.

Speaker 5

Okay. And can you give us any update on Halloween? Will Halloween just kind of blow right through inventory? Or Were you also challenged to fulfill demand for Halloween, just like other products?

Operator

Yes. So it is a very strong Halloween season, the biggest that we've ever had with very strong Double digit growth on top of the strength that we had last year. We have done our very best to get as much product out there as possible. Certainly, I would say supply pressures hit every aspect of the business. So Halloween season would be a piece of that.

Operator

But we are really excited about the growth that we've seen year to date, both in the category as well as on our own business. And Seeing lots of very picked over out there as I'm out in stores. It's going to be a good trick or treat based on We've heard from consumers as well as people really flock back to that behavior.

Speaker 7

Okay. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from the line of Ken Goldman with JPMorgan. You may proceed with your question.

Speaker 8

Hi. Thanks so much. I wanted to start by asking about your perception of your labor relations right now. We've had a couple of strikes obviously In the food at home industry, so I'm just curious for any updates how you see the risks there and so forth?

Operator

Yes. So absolutely, we are very focused on our labor. And then 1st and foremost, I would just want to again Publicly acknowledge and thank our manufacturing employees. We have folks in our plants who have been with the company for 20, 30, 40 years. And it's really their focus, their dedication from the very beginning that has enabled us to Demonstrate and deliver the growth that we've been able to during this very dynamic environment.

Operator

So we have very long focused And believed and operated in a way that we believe we are the best advocates for the needs of our people. We are In constant communication with our employees and we're really focused on our total employee value proposition with those employees. We know that we have highly competitive wage rates. We have excellent benefits and we routinely benchmark all of that. But we're also very focused on the softer factors that are very important to our employees and that includes especially during these times of global Supply chain challenge, work life balance, stress management, flexibility in hours, being able to get time off.

Operator

And so we have enacted a lot of strategies to really try and help with that. We have an always on recruiting approach and we I've really amplified our recruiting efforts this year to be able to successfully manage through the challenges And increase our net headcount. We've also leveraged the analytics to, as I said, understand some of the things most important To our workforce. So we're very focused on that. We are very focused on prioritizing the needs of that group And continuing to look at ways that we can optimize the situation in terms of supply and demand.

Operator

So we feel pretty good about that.

Speaker 8

Great. Thank you for that. And then a quick one for Steve. Steve, Year to date, your corporate other expense line has been up fairly meaningfully from both 2020 2019. I realize That grows somewhat in line with sales.

Speaker 8

But I'm just curious, how we should think about what sort of an ongoing Annual number for that corporate line is, especially as we think about modeling 2022, are there any potential one time Headwinds we should be thinking about that maybe go away next year or is this kind of a good run rate to think about?

Speaker 4

Yes. You'll see incentive compensation is one of the big And as we turn the page to next year, that'll be one item that resets. Otherwise, there's not as much change. We talked about This year, we had some planned investments in ERP and digital. We'll have some of those kinds of investments, I expect, next year.

Speaker 4

We also had a little bit heavier medical claims and benefits impact this year coming off of COVID. So that may or may not Continue next year, but probably the incentive reset will be the biggest year over year change as we start the next year.

Speaker 7

Thank you.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from the line of Brian Spillane with Bank of America. You may proceed with your question.

Speaker 9

Hi. Good morning, everybody.

Speaker 1

Good morning.

Speaker 9

So maybe just to tie one more up on 2022. And I guess, Steve, just below the operating profit line, this year there's been some benefit from interest expense being lower. And So I guess my question is just as we're looking in the next year and we're just looking at our models below the operating profit line. Is there anything that we should be thinking about In terms of puts and takes there?

Speaker 4

Yes. Nothing major. I think if I was to look at tax this year has been lumpy. But if I look at where we sort of set the final guidance for the year from a tax standpoint and I look to next year, I expect relatively similar level for We had some one timers this year that will not recurve next year. We talked about it in the Q2 and to some extent this quarter as well.

Speaker 4

So if I can't take those out and I look at the finishing tax position, I see that as the same. Interest expense, I don't expect a lot of change, probably flat year over year. So I hope that helps. Not much movement year over year other than the one timers.

Speaker 9

Yes. No, that's helpful. And then just a follow-up On the capacity expansion, I guess, two questions related to that. One is what type of investment is it? Meaning, is it Like physical manual like actual physical product production lines?

Speaker 9

Or is it investments in Like further down the manufacturing or like packaging capacity or just trying to get a sense of actually what type of capacity you're adding?

Operator

Yes. So we're adding capacity on both, both in terms of production product production as well as packaging Across multiple brands, I think we spoke before about building our agile fulfillment center That is up and coming online. So it's really across the board.

Speaker 9

And then if we're thinking about Or if you could give us a sense of with the capacity now that you're planning to add, just where you stand now in terms of like Capacity utilization or available capacity. And I guess what's underneath my question is we've been sort of adding incrementally to this To CapEx over the last couple of years and just trying to getting an understanding of whether we're going to stay in this elevated cycle for a while? Or are we

Operator

By brand and piece of the business, so each brand is in a slightly different position. We certainly have invested several $100,000,000 To install at least 9 new lines since the pandemic began, and we do have more plans for 2023 and for 2024. Steve, do you want to talk a little bit more about where we are in that total investment?

Speaker 4

Yes. If you look back really the last 2 years and this year, we have done a lot of infrastructure Spending. So we talked about the Agile fulfillment center. We've got a Canadian DC that's in process and of course the ERP transformation, which is a big component as well. Now I'd say we have to finish those projects, but are pivoting more towards the capacity side.

Speaker 4

So I think like we talked about machines, packaging, So far, we haven't had the need to build buildings and infrastructure of that sort. But as we look at the total, next year, as we talked about, We have slight increase versus this year from a CapEx standpoint, really due to project timing this year more than anything else. And then as we look further, we'll give more guidance on that we get into next year.

Speaker 9

Okay. Thanks. I'll leave it there. Thanks everyone.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from the line of Nik Modi with RBC Capital Markets. You may proceed with your question.

Speaker 7

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Michelle, I wanted to ask about market share. If you could just give us some context. Obviously, I think a big question has been How much of the share gains you Hershey's had over the last 12 to 18 months and how much of that will stick and looks like quite a bit of sticking.

Speaker 7

So can you just talk about Where you see the most stickiness, where things have retrenched and then obviously discussions are taking place now about 2022 shelf allocation, just wanted to get some of your early thoughts on how you think you'll progress there?

Operator

Yes, sure. So since the pandemic, we have been able to hold on to about 50% Of the market share gains that we had realized, we see certain areas of the business where those numbers are very strong. Seasons in particular, as we mentioned in our remarks, we had gained 500 basis points and we held on to about 75% of that. Take home also has been very strong in terms of our retention. So we're pleased with what we've been able to hold on to.

Operator

And as we continue to unlock more capacity and reinstate some of that advertising, we believe that we'll see some continued strength going forward.

Speaker 7

And then just a follow-up on assortment, because I know that's been a big area that retailers have been focused on given all the supply chain challenges. So as you kind of engage with retailers regarding space in with some of your initiatives, how are you guys thinking about your overall assortment on the shelf?

Operator

Yes. So I would say, we know that assortment bags Our really big sellers with consumers and there's been a trend toward that, particularly during the seasons and especially during Halloween. So we have definitely seen that part of the category tick up relative to assortment bags. If I look broadly At assortments and what is on the shelf, what we've been trying to do is to optimize our portfolio of SKUs For right now, based on what consumer demand is, where the demand is and availability of capacity, And we've really prioritized a lot of our core items, the core of the core of the core items, which are the highest velocity item, Even to the point where we're focusing in some places on shelf, you will see double facing of those items as opposed to the presence Perhaps some second or third tier items. So we spent a lot of time on this and we think we've taken a really smart approach that has enabled us To generate that very positive demand and at the same time maximize the available output that we have On capacity and on supply.

Speaker 7

Excellent. Thank you. I'll pass it on.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from the line of Michael Lavery with Piper Sandler. You may proceed with your question.

Speaker 10

Good morning. Thank you. Good morning. Just wanted to come back to the trajectory of some capacity relief. I know you've Quantified the deload hit for this year.

Speaker 10

Just in terms of at least how you're planning for it, assuming now that's all set for next year. Can you give a sense of how you expect that to unfold and just how soon you can start to see relief and reloading of retailer inventories?

Operator

Dave, do you want to talk to Tom?

Speaker 4

Yes. I think it's hard to call exactly how that's going to phase over next year. We've got as we've talked about in the prepared remarks, we've got Capacity that's come online this year, we've got more coming online next year. And I think between consumer demand and Our capacity coming online, it's going to be a challenge to kind of quarterly profile that. We'll share more in February.

Speaker 4

We'll have a better picture at that point.

Speaker 10

And is the issue more the production lines or labor or is it both?

Speaker 4

It's a bit of both. Labor only from availability, like everyone, we've done a lot of hiring this year. We talked about it again in the prepared remarks. We've increased headcount, But we've also seen more attrition than we've had in the past. So there's a labor component, but there's also a machine capacity component.

Operator

I'd also say there's been a logistics and shipping component as well, although we've been able to take some actions and have seen some improvement on that.

Speaker 10

Okay. Thanks. And you mentioned in the prepared remarks about the strength in unmeasured channels and just how your total Sell through is stronger than what we see in the measured channels. Can you give a sense of if there's any certain products Or channels in particular driving that and just how sustainable it might be?

Operator

Yes. I mean, we're seeing it be up versus the pre pandemic levels. And I think over 2 years, it's relatively in line with what we would call as normal. So low single digit growth is kind of what you should be thinking there.

Speaker 10

Okay. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from the line of Alexia Howard with Bernstein. You may proceed with your question.

Speaker 11

Good morning, everyone. Good morning. Great. So two questions from me. Firstly, you mentioned in the prepared remarks that Some of the emerging markets are still holding up well.

Speaker 11

I wonder if you could give us a quick tour of India, Brazil and Mexico. How large are they collectively? And what are the main initiatives in those areas? And then I have a follow-up.

Speaker 4

Yes. Do you want

Operator

to talk about the size and Yes.

Speaker 4

The 3 markets are doing well. Think we talked the same point I think on the Q2 call, but we're gaining share in all three of those markets In our key brands, and so we're pleased with the progress that we're making. You can continue to see aside from the top line, the benefits Some of the go to market work, including the model in China, but also efficiencies in the other markets. So we're pleased with the way things are going. As we look to the 4th quarter, Some of the same capacity challenges that we've seen in the U.

Speaker 4

S. And North America are going to have some impact on those markets as well, But really pleased with the distribution gains we've seen, the velocity and the share across those three markets.

Operator

Yes. And I'd say in terms of the key initiatives, I would probably bucket them across in terms of it is investing in the core. So India, we're still focused on the chocolate And broadening that, in Mexico, we have both, a strong chocolate portfolio as well as So in the suites area and Brazil continuing to fill out our portfolio, We launched Halloween in Brazil for the first time. We had a premium dark line that came out in Brazil a while back that's been very successful. And across all of those markets, investing to continue to build those brands and to build distribution, I think are really the key priorities There.

Speaker 11

Great. And then as a follow-up, I didn't see any reference to the e commerce channels In the prepared remarks this time around, has that channel slowed down materially? Obviously, it was very elevated during the pandemic. I'm just wondering what's Happening over there and whether that's becoming maybe less of a focus this year?

Operator

Yes. So overall, I think perhaps not Totally unexpectedly from a broad consumer perspective, overall trips to stores, both brick and mortar and e commerce are up, Both versus 2020 2019, in store trips have Pretty much rebounded to the pre pandemic levels. And in e commerce, what we've seen is that trips Have largely maintained versus last year, but we have seen the dollars per trip go down as many of those Consumers who were more exclusively purchasing in e commerce shifted more of their spend back into bricks and mortar. Most of the e commerce shoppers are not exclusively e commerce. They shop omni channel.

Operator

So we saw some of that shifting occur. Relative to our business in particular, our e commerce retail sales are up versus last year with our omnichannel partners Despite the significant growth that we had a year ago, and also despite the significant growth that we're

Speaker 1

Question comes from the line of Steve Powers with Deutsche Bank. You may proceed with your question.

Speaker 12

Yes. Hey, thanks. Good morning. With the time just back to the capacity question, again, just with the timing of exactly when you might be able to alleviate pressure on those most Brian, it's hard to call as you talked about with Michael. I guess I wanted to cycle back to Rob's question.

Speaker 12

Just get a sense for How long you think this lower run rate on marketing could continue? And how long you'd be comfortable letting it run just Given the competitive backdrop?

Operator

Yes. I mean, I think relative to the marketing investment, I mean, we are just going to we are continuously Being agile and flexible and as we are able to either bring new capacity online or Make adjustments in how we are operating because we've done we've had a lot of focus in things like freeing up additional capacity by reducing changeovers, by focusing On 4 SKUs. So I'd say we're in a period of continuous improvement, both in terms of capacity investment and maximizing the capacity we have. So we closely monitor that, so that as we do see upticks, we can then quickly reassess and adjust our spending accordingly.

Speaker 4

Yes. All I would add is we've talked in the past about the analytics that we have around our media investment and we put a lot of our own investment in building out that analytics So I don't think of the media cuts as sort of a peanut butter approach. It's very surgical, it's very precise to the areas where we have capacity constraints and very Protective of the high ROI core brand advertising.

Speaker 12

Yes. I mean, that makes sense. Just if I could, how much of that analytics and those considerations are driven by your internal Sort of aspects that are internal to you and your control and your capacity versus the competitive backdrop, right? So Right now, it sounds like you and competitors are all in a kind of a similar spot. And so as you pull back, you're not overly concerned about share of voice being lost, etcetera.

Speaker 12

But if you kind of got if you thought you were more off size on capacity relative to competitors and saw them ticking things up, How does that factor in? Would you be ramping up ahead of capacity on marketing just to maintain that share of voice? Or how do you think about that?

Speaker 4

Yes. Our retail sales team has very strong presence in store. So we between what's on air and what's on shelf and what's being promoted, we have very good Data coming back on what's happening from a competitive set and all of that does feed into the decision as we think about how we're going to optimize our marketing and media spend.

Speaker 12

Okay, great. And just one last question, if I could. You called out the price increase executed Recently in the U. S. And your expectation for pricing to play a bigger role in next year's growth, which makes good sense.

Speaker 12

Is there Any color you can provide just in terms of the cadence of how you expect net realized price to flow? Is it going to be relatively even throughout the year? Is it Bill, just any context there would be helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 4

Yes. We're going to have more in the first half of twenty twenty two. Think about the most recent Price increase will kick in, in the Q1, plus we'll have carryover from the price increases that we announced earlier this year. So the first half will have more price relative to the back half.

Speaker 5

Perfect. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from the line of Jonathan Feeney with Consumer Edge. May proceed with your question.

Speaker 13

Hey, good morning and thanks. Just a quick one for me. I'm trying to understand For Q3 and your numbers I'm off by a few days and your numbers probably better than mine. But clearly, I have 9.7 for pricing In measured pricing in Q3 U. S.

Speaker 13

Scanner channels and that's significant when pricing broadly is At retail is ahead of what wholesale pricing appears to be. What's going on? And does that tell us something about The kind of pricing you'd expect to flow through, and is there any possibility that retailers are kind of margining up a little bit At least relative to what you would consider standard operations? Thanks very much.

Speaker 4

Sure. We're not seeing retailers margin up In a material way, what you do see is a lot of impact of mix in retail. I mean, you really got to click down to get down to pack type and really see what's happening and when you get down to that level, it's consistent more than what you see when you look at just at the top level.

Speaker 13

Got you. So you'd say it's more of a mix phenomenon then?

Speaker 6

That's what

Speaker 4

I'm looking at. That's what I'm looking at.

Speaker 6

Cool. Thanks very much.

Speaker 4

You bet.

Speaker 1

Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of today's question and answer session. I would like to turn this call back over to Ms. Melissa Poole for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thanks so much for joining us this morning. We'll certainly be available throughout the day for any additional questions you may have. Have a great day.

Speaker 1

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation

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