Park-Ohio Q3 2021 Earnings Call Transcript

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November 1, 2021

There are 14 speakers on the call.

Operator

Welcome to

Speaker 1

the MPC Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Call. My name is Sheila, and I will be your operator for today's call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session. Please note that this conference is being recorded.

Speaker 1

I will now turn the call over to Christina Kazarian. Christina, you may begin.

Operator

Welcome to Marathon Petroleum Corporation's 3rd Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. The slides that accompany this call can be found on our website at marathonpetroleum .com under the Investors tab. Joining me on the call today are Mike Hennigan, CEO Mary Anne Mannin, CFO and other members of the executive team. We invite you to read the Safe Harbor statements on Slide 2. We will be making forward looking statements today.

Operator

Actual results may differ. Factors that could cause actual results to differ are included there as well as in our filings with the SEC. With that, I'll turn the call over to Mike.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Christina. Before we get into results for the quarter, we wanted to provide a brief update on the business. Midway through the quarter, we were impacted by Hurricane Ida. The eye of the hurricane passed over our Garyville refinery with wind speeds topping 120 miles per hour. Fortunately, all of our employees in the region were safe, But many of them experienced severe damage to their homes and the communities around them.

Speaker 2

Our team was able to shut down our refinery in a controlled manner A day ahead of the storm and ensure operational integrity and safety of all of our employees. It took roughly a week to restore some power, Which enabled the 1st crude unit to restart over the next several days. The remainder of the refinery restarted sequentially Over the next 10 days as more power became available to the facility. I'd like to recognize our refining team and our support groups For their dedication and efforts. Our commercial teams also did an excellent job in keeping our customers in the region supplied through coordinated efforts across the company.

Speaker 2

Mary Anne will cover the specific impacts when she reviews the refining results. In addition to the Louisiana hurricane, Our Los Angeles Refinery was impacted by an earthquake on September 18. Again, the major challenge was the loss of power. Once power was restored, the units were restarted, the refinery was back to normal operations in roughly 1 week. Our teams did an excellent job responding to these events and minimizing the negative impact to our financial results.

Speaker 2

Looking more broadly, during the quarter, we saw gradual increases in the demand for our products as mobility continued to recover. Globally, Product inventories are at their tightest level in many years and this improvement has lifted margins. In the U. S, gasoline and diesel inventories have steadily improved and are both at the low end of their 5 year averages. Jet fuel inventories have moved into the 5 year range, although demand is still well below pre pandemic levels and we expect that to be a headwind for some time.

Speaker 2

Our system is seeing gasoline demand currently 2% to 3% below 2019 levels with the West Coast still lagging at about Diesel demand is now slightly above 2019 levels. Jet demand has improved, But still remains down nearly 15% to 20% below pre pandemic levels. Natural gas costs steadily rose during the quarter With an average increase of over $1 from the second to the third quarter. There's still some uncertainty as we head into the Q4, but lower inventory levels And strong holiday travel could be supportive. And looking at next year, if global product inventories remain tight and demand continues to recover, We would expect the refining sector to rebound in 2022.

Speaker 2

At the same time, we're watching prices to see if there's a consumer demand pullback. On the aspects of the business that are within our control, this quarter we advanced several key initiatives. We progressed our renewables initiative with the addition of a new Strategic partnership with ADM. This JV will own and operate ADM's soybean processing complex in Spiritwood, North Dakota. Upon completion, which is expected in 2023, this facility will source and process local soybeans, Supplying approximately £600,000,000 of soybean oil exclusively for MPC, enough feedstock Approximately 75,000,000 gallons of renewable diesel per year.

Speaker 2

While this JV provides a locally advantaged feedstock For our Dickinson project, we continue to evaluate feedstock options for our Martinez facility in California. At Martinez, Our renewable fuel facility conversion reached another project milestone when its environmental impact report was issued for public comment in mid October. The process highlights our extensive effort working with the local regulators and other stakeholders. Also in October, United Airlines, Marathon and others conducted a successful test flight of a 737, which flew for 90 minutes Using drop in sustainable aviation fuel. The SAF used during the test flight was 100% renewable Drop in fuel made possible by proprietary technology from Virent, our wholly owned subsidiary, Which has a demonstration plant in Madison, Wisconsin.

Speaker 2

And as we continue to focus on ways to strengthen the competitive position of our assets, Today, we announced that we are pursuing strategic alternatives for the Kenai Refinery, which could include a potential sale. We often share our belief that our business is both a return on and a return of capital business. In this quarter, we made progress strengthening our portfolio, Continuing our low cost focus and progressing our commitment to return capital to our shareholders. As of today, we've completed approximately 25 percent of our $10,000,000,000 share repurchase program

Speaker 3

and

Speaker 2

we're confident return the remaining $7,500,000,000 by the end of 2022. Finally, MPLX announced the 3rd quarter distribution consisting of a 2.5 percent increase to its base distribution amount and a special distribution amount as well. MPC will receive a total of $829,000,000 This announcement reinforces the strategic importance of MPLX As part of MPC's portfolio and its ability to return substantial cash to MPC and all unitholders. Slide 4 provides a framework around some of the ways we are challenging ourselves to lead in sustainable energy. Our approach to sustainability Spans the environmental, social and government and governance or ESG dimensions of our operations.

Speaker 2

Incumbent is strengthening resiliency by lowering our carbon intensity and conserving natural resources, developing for the future by investing in renewables And emerging technologies and embedding sustainability and decision making in all aspects of engagement with our people and many stakeholders. We have 3 company wide targets many of our investors and stakeholders know well. First, a 30% reduction in our Scope 1 And scope 2 greenhouse gas emissions intensity by 2,030 second, a 50% reduction in midstream methane intensity by 2025 and lastly, a 20 And lastly, a 20% reduction in our freshwater withdrawal intensity by 2,030. The evolving energy landscape presents us with meaningful opportunities for innovation. We've allocated 40% of our growth capital in 2021 to help advance 2 significant renewable fuels projects.

Speaker 2

In late 2020, we began renewable diesel production at our Dickinson, North Dakota facility, the 2nd largest of its kind in the United States And are progressing the conversion of our Martinez, California refinery to a renewable diesel facility. I'd also like to highlight a Few specific updates from the quarter. We were recently awarded an ESG A rating by MSCI. We are the only U. S.-based refiner that holds this rating.

Speaker 2

We continue to focus on enhancing our disclosures in this quarter. We also submitted data on our Scope 3 emissions through CDP and we are the 1st in our refining sector to do so. We invite you to go to Sustainability section of our website and learn more about how we are challenging ourselves to lead in sustainable energy. At this point, I'd like to turn it over to Mary Anne to review the Q3 results.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Mike. Slide 5 provides a summary of our Q3 financial results. This morning, we reported earnings per share $48,000,000 of pretax charges primarily related to Hurricane Ida, impairments and idling costs. Additionally, the adjustments include an incremental $272,000,000 of tax expense, which adjusts All results to a 24% tax rate. Our year to date effective rate is just under 2%.

Speaker 3

We therefore expect to retain the tax benefits realized in 2021. We will continue to make this tax rate adjustment For the Q4 of 2021. Adjusted EBITDA was $2,400,000,000 for the quarter, which is approximately $500,000,000 higher From the prior quarter. Cash from operations, excluding working capital and a voluntary pension contribution was nearly $1,800,000,000 Which is an increase of $230,000,000 from the prior quarter. During the quarter, we paid $575,000,000 Into our pension plan, we elected to contribute this additional amount as it was beneficial from a tax perspective.

Speaker 3

This amount covers nearly 3 years of estimated contributions, and we forecast the plan would be fully funded at year end. This also increased the CARES Act benefit to a total of $2,300,000,000 Similar to last quarter, we generated ongoing operating cash flow that exceeded the needs of the business and capital commitments as well as covered our dividend and distributions. Finally, we returned nearly $1,300,000,000 of capital to shareholders this quarter Through dividend payments and share repurchases. Slide 6 illustrates the progress we have made Towards lowering our cost structure. Since the beginning of 2020, we have taken almost $1,500,000,000 out of the company's total cost.

Speaker 3

Refining has been lowered by approximately $1,000,000,000 Midstream reduced by $300,000,000 and corporate cost by about 100,000,000 Regardless of the margin environment, our EBITDA is directly improved by this $1,500,000,000 We continue to emphasize our safe, reliable and low cost focus across the organization. While we do not See further cost reductions of the same magnitude that we have already taken out, there are still opportunities for us to reduce cost. Natural gas prices were higher in the 3rd quarter and continue into the 4th quarter. For every $1 change in natural gas prices, We anticipate there is an approximate $360,000,000 impact to annual EBITDA to our R and M segment. Based on current prices, we estimate that in the 4th quarter, higher natural gas prices have the potential To impact our business by an incremental $0.30 per barrel.

Speaker 3

As we have previously Mentioned, our refining cost in 2020 began at $6 per barrel and are now trending at a quarterly average of roughly $5 And we continue to believe these are structural reductions. While our results reflect our focus on cost discipline, every day, we remain steadfast in our commitment to safely operate our assets And protect the health and safety of our employees, customers and the communities in which we operate. As we have shared with you previously, our cost reductions Should be sustainable, not impact revenue opportunities and in no way jeopardize the safety of our people or our operations. Slide 7 shows the reconciliation from net income to adjusted EBITDA as well as the sequential change in adjusted EBITDA From Q2 2021 to Q3 2021, adjusted EBITDA was approximately $500,000,000 higher quarter over quarter, Driven primarily by refining and marketing, but also benefiting from our strength in midstream. Dollars 48,000,000 of pretax charges during the quarter are reflected in the adjustment column.

Speaker 3

Moving to our segment results, Slide 8 provides an overview of our Refining and Marketing segment. The business reported continuing improvement from last quarter with adjusted EBITDA of $1,200,000,000 This was an increase of $444,000,000 when compared to the Q2 of 2021. The increase was driven primarily by higher refining margins, especially in the Gulf Coast region as that region's cracks improved 34% From the Q2. As Mike mentioned, our Garyville refinery was impacted by Hurricane Ida. We estimate the cost impact Was $19,000,000 this quarter with an additional $11,000,000 to be incurred in the 4th quarter.

Speaker 3

We estimate the lost opportunity from the hurricane to be approximately $80,000,000 The Garyville refinery was down for about 10 days and took another 10 days to ramp back up to full production. The throughput impact was approximately 8,300,000 barrels. We also believe there was an additional $10,000,000 of lost opportunity impact Associated with the earthquake at our Los Angeles refinery, which was back to the planned rate after roughly 1 week. Utilization was 93% for the quarter, flat with the Q2. We saw lower utilization in the Gulf Coast Compared to the Q2 due to hurricane impacts, the Mid Con region continued its strong utilization And West Coast strengthened as reopening in California continued to increase demand.

Speaker 3

If adjusted To include capacity, which was idled in 2020, utilization would have been approximately 88% in the Q3 of 2021. Operating expenses were higher in the 3rd quarter, primarily due to higher natural gas prices. Slide 9 shows the change in our Midstream EBITDA versus the Q2 of 2021. Our Midstream Segment continues to demonstrate earnings resiliency and stability with consistent results from the previous quarter. The strong cash flow profile and lower capital spending supported the decision to return more cash to unitholders.

Speaker 3

Today, MPLX announced a 2.5% increase in the partnership's base quarterly distribution And a special distribution amount of approximately $600,000,000 As I mentioned earlier, This quarter, our midstream assets in the region were also impacted by Hurricane Ida. We estimate the cost impact was $4,000,000 this quarter With an additional $7,000,000 to be incurred in the 4th quarter. Slide 10 presents the elements of change in our consolidated cash Position for the Q3. Operating cash flow was $1,765,000,000 in the quarter. As I mentioned earlier, this excludes changes in working capital and an incremental payment of approximately $575,000,000 into our pension plan.

Speaker 3

Also, this amount does not include changes to our CARES tax receivable in the quarter, which was a $500,000,000 source of cash And is included in the income taxes bar of this chart. Working capital was effectively flat this quarter. During the quarter, MPLX reduced its 3rd party debt by $1,000,000,000 funded by borrowing an additional $877,000,000 under the MPC or Marathon Intercompany Loan Agreement. Our income tax balances represented a use of cash, Primarily driven by a decrease in accrued taxes. We made a tax payment due for the Speedway gain Of $2,900,000,000 out of a total of $4,200,000,000 we have accrued.

Speaker 3

We were able to offset About $400,000,000 of the amount using our CARES tax receivable. There were about $100,000,000 of other charges in our tax balances. During the quarter, we adjusted our CARES tax refund up to $2,300,000,000 from $2,100,000,000 last quarter. We have identified a total of about $700,000,000 that can be offset against our Speedway tax obligation, including the $400,000,000 we used this quarter and $300,000,000 that we expect to use in the Q4 of 2021 to offset remaining balances or taxes due from our Speedway transaction. We received $1,550,000,000 of the CARES Act refund in October.

Speaker 3

There is about $60,000,000 of the refund remaining, which we expect to receive in the first half of twenty twenty two. With respect to capital return, MPC returned $370,000,000 to shareholders through our dividend And repurchased $928,000,000 worth of shares in the quarter using Speedway's proceeds. At the end of the quarter, MPC had $13,200,000,000 in cash and higher returning short term investments Such as commercial paper and certificates of deposit. Last quarter, we promised to continue to provide status updates on our progress Deploying Speedway proceeds. We have repurchased an incremental $1,500,000,000 in shares since the end of the second quarter.

Speaker 3

This is comprised of $928,000,000 of repurchase in the 3rd quarter, plus additional shares purchased Through the end of October. As Mike indicated, we are approximately 25% complete with our $10,000,000,000 share repurchase program. We are continuing to use a program that allows us to buy on an ongoing basis and we will provide updates on the progress during our earnings calls. To meet our $10,000,000,000 share repurchase commitment, we are progressing steps to be able to complete the remaining repurchases of approximately $7,500,000,000 By the end of 2022, the options we have previously discussed remain available to us to complete this objective. Today, we also announced that we intend to redeem an additional $2,100,000,000 of debt.

Speaker 3

This entails 2 tranches of notes that Chore in 2023. Given the current interest rate environment as well as our cash position, it makes economic sense to redeem these notes early and we anticipate this will lead to roughly $20,000,000 of savings. This short term cash management Provides immediate interest payment savings and will have the ability to reissue notes at the appropriate time. With this redemption, we have no maturities over the next 3 years. Our 3rd quarter debt to capital ratio for MPC, excluding MPLX, Was approximately 24%.

Speaker 3

The redemption of these notes will continue to lower this ratio. As we manage our balance sheet, We continue to ensure that we maintain our investment grade credit portfolio. Turning to guidance. On Slide 12, We provide our Q4 outlook. We expect total throughput volumes of roughly 2,800,000 barrels per day.

Speaker 3

Planned turnaround costs are projected to be approximately $200,000,000 in the 4th quarter. The majority of the activity will be in the Mid Con region. Total operating costs are projected to be $5.40 per barrel for the quarter. Based on the current prices, we estimate that in the 4th quarter, higher natural gas prices have the potential to impact our business By an incremental $0.30 per barrel. As we have previously mentioned, our turnaround activity is back half weighted this year.

Speaker 3

Other operating expenses are coordinated to occur during these time periods as well. Distribution costs are expected to be approximately 1 point $3,000,000,000 for the Q4. Corporate costs are expected to be $170,000,000 reflecting the Approximately $100,000,000 in costs that have been removed on an annual basis. With that, let me turn the call back over to Kristina.

Operator

Thanks, Mary Anne. As we open the call for your questions, as a courtesy to all participants, we ask that you limit yourself to one question and a follow-up. If time permits, we will re prompt for additional questions. I will now open the call for questions. Operator?

Speaker 1

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. Our first question will come from Neil Mehta with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Speaker 4

Good morning, team. Thanks for taking the question. The first question is around capital returns and You still have $7,500,000,000 of stock, which is a lot of stock to buy back by the end of 'twenty two. Based on what we know right now, is it fair to assume that you're going to I'm just back ratably at $1,500,000,000 a quarter or do you see yourself leaning into it? And then tie that into your capital return strategy at MPLX.

Speaker 4

We saw the special dividend that came through this morning. Is that something that we should think of as potentially More likely to happen going forward or was that one time in nature?

Speaker 3

Sure. Thanks, Neil. So let me talk about the Share buyback program and your question around ratability. Just maybe as a quick reminder, we did not get into the market Until the completion of our 2nd quarter earnings call. So we really didn't have a full quarter, if you will.

Speaker 3

And hopefully, you've What we've been doing in the remaining weeks post our earnings call as I tried to share with you. We do believe that we have opportunity as we go forward given the timing of our earnings to be a little more opportunistic. So I would not assume in any way that ratably is the only plan that we have. I think what you can see is if that were to be the case, we certainly would have Full ability to complete our program, as we say, no later than the end of 2022, but that is certainly not the only available set of opportunities for us. I'll turn the call turn the question over to Mike on MPLX.

Speaker 2

Good morning, Neil. I'll address your second point. So I'm going to give you a little bit of a long winded answer, but hopefully, it'll get to the meat of your question. So at MPLX, one of the things that we Decided to do was to move the business model such that we would have free cash after distributions and after growth capital That would put us in a financial flexibility situation where we could have options. We achieved that about the Q3 of 2020.

Speaker 2

And as a result of that, we now have a situation where we have capital for deployment in MPLX that can be growth capital, buybacks, Additional distribution to the base as you saw us bump that up today, additional distribution amounts in the form of a special, which we've talked about a little bit here and I'll address it further. But the bottom line there is, we're going to be dynamic in evaluating what's the best opportunity for us On that side of the house, based on market conditions, business needs, etcetera, etcetera. An important point though from the MPC side of it is, We often get asked the question, how does MPLX provide value to MPC shareholders? Well, we tried to enumerate many different ways, but this One other example where this is additional cash that's coming from MPLX to MPC. So at the base distribution amount, MPC gets about $1,800,000,000 and that's been pretty ratable since 2020.

Speaker 2

With this special distribution amount, It will now be $2,200,000,000 because it's about $400,000,000 MPCs take of the special that went to all unitholders. So instead of a $1,800,000 say EBITDA addition from MPC, you're now looking at $2,200,000 and we'll continue to evaluate that going forward. It's clearly our intent to grow earnings at MPLX. And as a result of that, there's going to be more cash available to come to MPC over time, whether it's through distributions to the base or special, while we also continue to look Buybacks at MPC as well. So hopefully, everybody sees this as a nice strategic importance of MPLX To MPC shareholders as part of our overall scheme here.

Speaker 2

Does that make sense to you, Neil?

Speaker 4

No, that's really helpful, Mike. And my follow-up is kind of a housekeeping modeling type of stuff, which is 2 parts to it. One is tax rate came in a little bit Lower than expected this quarter. Should we think about the tax rate going forward given that midstream is such a big part of the earnings lower than the 24% Effective tax rate that we've been base casing and then just any flavor on 2022 CapEx, so 2 kind of housekeeping questions.

Speaker 3

So Neil, on the tax question, so you're absolutely right. In the quarter, frankly, we actually recorded from continuing operations About an $18,000,000 benefit, part of that is driven by our ability to carry back the incremental pension contribution And some other favorable discrete items in the quarter. The second part of your question is whether or not we would actually migrate for the statutory rate of 24%. And I think you've articulated that as we look at the amount of non controlling interest, We would most likely not see a statutory rate of 24%, but as the level of R and M continues to improve against that, We'll see that rate get higher than the 2% that you were seeing on a year to date basis. So we will migrate from 2% Trending toward, but we would not reach the statutory rate.

Speaker 3

We have continued to make this adjustment since the Q1 of 2020, And we'll do that in the Q4 for consistency. But most likely going forward beginning in the Q1 of 2022, We will not be making a tax adjustment to bring all of our earnings to 24%. I hope that answered the question. And then I'll address your second question around capital. As you saw, we had a significant reduction from 2020 to 2021, And we're largely on track to reach that CapEx number for 2021.

Speaker 3

We have not given guidance for 2022 as yet and we'll do that on our Q4 earnings call as we normally do. But I think as you know, one of the key strategic pillars along with cost reduction is strict capital discipline. We've begun to outline for you the amount of capital that we are targeting or committing to renewables, and we would

Speaker 1

Thank you. Next, we will hear from Doug Leggate with Bank of America. Your line is open.

Speaker 5

Thanks. Good morning, everybody. So guys, you have given a lot of moving parts, a lot of detail about cost reductions, the impact of gas sensitivity and so on. I wonder if I could ask you to kind of dumb it down for us a little bit. As we transition back to, for one of our better expression, mid cycle, What do you see as the mid cycle EBITDA for the portfolio after all the changes, what it stands like today?

Speaker 5

And I'm talking specifically the refining business Ex the MLP consolidation. Is that something you can quantify?

Speaker 2

Yes, Doug, it's Mike. As you know from some of our previous conversations, I think it's very, very hard to call the mid cycle. I often say I use the football analogy that just getting it between the 40s is tough enough, let alone trying to find mid cycle. So But most importantly for me, Doug, I will tell you the way we manage the company is we're not concerned about calling the 50 versus the 40. I'd like to think about the 2 end zones.

Speaker 2

How do we feel about a low environment and a high environment? And how are we set up From a portfolio standpoint, whether each of those come at us, because invariably over time, as you've seen, you'll see Cyclical high margin environments, and then obviously, we've seen some pretty low ones with the pandemic. So I don't really have a number for you. That's not something we spend a lot of time with. Obviously, internally, we also like to think about where is our Balance sheet and leverage, etcetera, etcetera.

Speaker 2

As Mary Anne talked about, right now, we're in a different situation than normal. We have a lot of cash on the balance sheet. We did a short term optimization around that cash management. Ultimately, I think our leverage To a normal mid cycle, it would be higher in the future. But we'll keep debating that and ultimately try and frame ourselves We're in a good position.

Speaker 2

But at the end of the day, I don't have the crystal ball to tell you exactly what I think mid cycle is going to be. But I do think that we're going to manage the company such that we're prepared for either end of it, and we're going to have the appropriate Management disciplines and financial disciplines around those scenarios.

Speaker 3

And Doug, Marion here, maybe at the risk repeating that, but as we always say, we're going to control the things we can. And whatever that mid cycle brings, as I was sharing, We're $1,500,000,000 better than we otherwise would have been from the cost reductions that we've been able to achieve. We still believe we have some In our low cost culture, but certainly, we're $1,500,000,000 better than we otherwise would have been regardless of what that market brings us.

Speaker 5

Thank you. It was worth a stab, I guess. But my follow-up, I guess we touch on this every other quarter, Mike, but The portfolio changes, keen eye is the latest and it seems to be these are kind of as you flagged to be fair, these are dribbling out over a I'm just wondering if you could kind of maybe in a baseball analogy give us an idea of where you think we are in that process. And I wonder if I could also ask you to touch on whether there is any similar studies or evolution of the portfolio going on at the MPLX Obviously, for a long time, there's been a lot of discussions over gathering and processing, whether that's the right fit for an NLP type of business. I'll leave it there.

Speaker 5

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. Doug, to your first part, I don't know that we think about it as dribbling around. I mean, From the portfolio standpoint, we've executed the sale of the Speedway business, which as everybody knows, took a long time to get through that process. We made early moves to idle some high cost facilities in our refining system, converted Martinez to renewable diesel, that's in progress, Completed a feedstock JV and an equity position in the feedstock situation for Dickinson. So we continue to Examine the portfolio, I think we've done some things that shows the market that it is a high priority for us.

Speaker 2

It's one of my 3 main initiatives that I stated from the start. With respect to Kenai, I would tell you, Doug, normally, I'm not a big fan of announcing stuff until things are done or not As a general rule, but in this particular case, we've done an analysis and the reason we disclosed it now is We're in pretty advanced discussions with several parties. And because of the timing of this call, We didn't want to have this call and if something progresses to closure in the near future, we didn't want everybody saying, hey, why didn't you tell us about it. So we decided to kind of go off our norm a little bit and disclose that we may be able to execute something here in the short term, But it may not happen as well. So we're trying to be as open and as transparent as we can be.

Speaker 2

We're evaluating it. It is advanced discussions, and So that's the main reason that we've decided to tell the market that's where we are. But I will tell you that we'll continue to evaluate the portfolio. There's more work in our mind that It needs to be done. And hopefully, over time, people continue to see a pattern of us challenging ourselves to have a very robust portfolio It works in all market conditions.

Speaker 2

And ultimately, what I try and say to our team is we want all of our assets to provide free cash Over the cycle of cash flows and margin environments that we hit.

Speaker 5

Mike, I wonder if I could just press you on the MPLX question. I guess drip feed was the better expression I should have used, but does that extend to MPLX?

Operator

Doug, could you just say that again? Apologies, we couldn't

Speaker 1

hear you. Did you say drip feed?

Speaker 5

Sorry, My point was I think drip feed was a better expression than dribble, I think was the word that Mike used. My question was, does this extend to the MPLX

Speaker 2

Yes, it does. We've said for some time and maybe to our detriment again, but we like to our own transparency We believe that there's parts of the portfolio very core and going to continue to get capital deployment. There's parts of the portfolio that we do not think Long term is core, but at the same time, we're generating free cash from those areas and we'll continue to keep those part of the Unless we see something that adds more value. The bid ask on the non core has been wide, and like I say, maybe No good deed goes unpunished. The fact that we've been open about that option, I think, has led people to try and lowball us as far as some of the bids.

Speaker 2

But We know what the value of the assets are in our mind. We're not going to move them for numbers less than that. We're happy with the execution of the assets at this point. So We're in a, what I call, a good position. We're generating free cash.

Speaker 2

The portfolio is working for us. We'll look for an opportunity, if it makes sense, At some point to divest something that we think can be more useful to somebody else in the long term. But if not, we'll manage the capital into those areas and continue to generate cash and deploy capital where we think there's more longer term value. So the long answer to your question, but yes, the portfolio is obviously Something that matters in both MPC and MPLX. Okay.

Speaker 5

Thank you very much.

Speaker 2

You're welcome, Doug.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Next, we will hear from Phil Gresh with JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Yes. Hey, good morning. My first question is just around the balance sheet. In the past, you've talked about parent leverage of, I think, 1x to 1.5x. Obviously, you have a lot of cash coming in the door.

Speaker 6

The macro is looking more and more like mid cycle faster. So does this impact in any way the way you're thinking about the right level of consolidated or parent leverage that you want to maintain moving forward?

Speaker 3

It's Mary Anne. I'd say no, it does not. We are certainly, as I tried to share, committed To maintaining our investment grade ratings on both MPC and MPLX, our decision in the short term on the incremental debt It's really based on the $20,000,000 worth of interest rate savings. As I mentioned on the call, we're sitting at about 24% debt to cap, that will lower that obviously as we take that incremental debt out, but it's short term. We'll continue to look at the And then of course, as we complete the share repurchase, we'll see that leverage move up a bit as well.

Speaker 3

But this in no way changes the way that we are thinking about the optimal capital structure for MPC And MPLX, we remain comfortable, if you will. We've been talking about 4 times at the MPLX. And as John mentioned on the call earlier this morning, we're sitting at about 3.7 at the end of this quarter.

Speaker 6

And just to clarify, yes, at the parallel level.

Speaker 5

So Mike,

Speaker 2

I just want to add to what Mary Anne said because I want to make sure that the market doesn't over interpret this short term move. So we have cash sitting on the balance sheet. The market has moved such that we can take out that debt a little earlier in such a way that we can put $20,000,000 in our pocket. The interest rate that we're getting on the cash in the short term, obviously, is small basis points compared to putting $20,000,000 in our pockets. So as an optimization, we look to take that debt out, but don't read into it, which I'm concerned that's what you're doing.

Speaker 2

Don't read into it that that's where we think our debt Should be on a long term basis. Does that make sense to you?

Speaker 6

It does. I just want to make sure, Mary Anne, did I clarify or qualify that correctly at 1 to 1 point Times for the parent leverage as well or just want to make sure I'm thinking about that the right way?

Speaker 3

Yes, I think that's a fair assessment, so yes.

Speaker 6

Got it. Okay. And then my second question, again, with all the cash flow improvements here with the macro environment, Does Marathon have a way that it's thinking about its dividend framework moving forward post Speedway? I don't know if it's percent of cash flow or something You're trying to think about not only the buybacks, which are reducing the dividend burden, but also the potential for dividend growth. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes, Phil, it's Mike. So yes, we're having a lot of internal discussions around the dividend level. But in the short term, our priority is to buy back The shares through the program we have, we're not going to make a change on the dividend while that program is in place, but we are looking at what's the appropriate level going forward, Especially considering how much cash that we're generating at both MPC and MPLX. And like I mentioned earlier, now The amount of EBITDA that's coming from MPLX into MPC for at least for this year is considerably higher than what it's been in the past. So It is something that's on our radar screen, but while we're reducing shares, we're going to concentrate on that program first before we make any further comments on the dividend.

Speaker 6

Okay. Thank

Speaker 2

you. You're welcome.

Speaker 1

Our next question will come from Manav Gupta with Credit Tuisse, you may proceed.

Speaker 7

Hey, Mike. Given the cash build, which we are seeing quarter over quarter, I know since you have taken over, you have been very focused on cost reductions, what you can control and optimizing the portfolio. But just because the cash is building, is there a possibility you could accelerate your renewable fuel development Through more JVs or actually acquire some assets under development or even other forms of renewable energy, I'm just trying to understand If that part of the portfolio can be accelerated here through inorganic means, is that something you could be open to?

Speaker 2

Yes, Manav. We're certainly open to it. I mean, we have a team of people that's constantly looking at the opportunities that are out there inorganically. Obviously, we don't count on that in our base plan and we count on the things we control as you mentioned. But yes, we have a whole team of people both on the MPC and the MPLX Looking for opportunities in renewables and as well as all the other alternative energy options.

Speaker 2

In the short term, we have not found anything that we think It's worthy of deployment, but we'll continue to look at it. Some of these other technologies, I think, are going to develop over time, and I think we're going to get some opportunities into the future. But up until this point, we haven't found anything that we thought was worthwhile. But we're certainly open to it. And like I said, we have a lot of people looking at all the different parts of this energy evolution that's going to continue to evolve over time.

Speaker 7

And a quick follow-up here is, during the quarter in refining, obviously, the widening sour differentials were a meaningful tailwind for you. Obviously, I think it's about $150,000,000 quarter over quarter. We are seeing Opaque raise some volumes here. You're seeing some widening of the Canadian So if you could help us understand the outlook for medium and heavy sour differentials here and how that plays into MPC? Thank you.

Speaker 8

Yes. Hi, Manav. It's Rick Hessling. I can help you there. So you're absolutely correct.

Speaker 8

Here in the near term, medium sours, heavy differentials have widened. So you're seeing that in the marketplace. Going forward, what I would share is there's a lot of put and takes out there in the marketplace. We've certainly got the OPEC plus decision here that's expected on Thursday. That will pivot the market certainly a bit.

Speaker 8

We've got Political intervention, I. E, SPR releases that always weigh in the outlook. So it makes it very tough to truly take a position. Above and beyond that, you've got production. You've got Gulf of Mexico production, Canadian production recently looking robust.

Speaker 8

But then on the flip side, you certainly have consumer demand, where will that go? How will the demand play out? And then lastly, several other wildcards on how it will affect these differentials, which is Line 3 and Capline reversal here in a few months. So a lot of puts and takes, Manav, really hard to call going forward.

Speaker 7

Thank you so

Speaker 8

much. You're welcome.

Speaker 1

Our next question will come from Roger Read with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Speaker 9

Yes. Thank you. Good morning.

Speaker 10

Good morning, Roger.

Speaker 9

Good morning, guys. Just dive into it here. First one on the Martinez conversion, just to make sure you talked a little bit about feedstock earlier, how you're looking at Where you are relative to secured feedstock and how that would compare to the normal process. In other words, if you don't have 100%, that's not a surprise because we're still, what, 2 years away essentially from full run rates or 1.5 years. And then are there any specific regulatory hurdles Remaining, permitting, etcetera that needs to go on there?

Speaker 2

So Roger, I'll let Ray talk About the regulatory side and then I'll come back on the feedstocks.

Speaker 11

Good morning, Roger. Hey, the big hurdle for us, the first hurdle was the environmental impact report was actually issued for public comment Few weeks ago, October 18, and that's a 60 day comment period. I want to emphasize this, this is a major milestone for us and not an insignificant piece of work. It's a It's a 450 page answer to questions and scenarios and so forth. There initially was a little bit of misinterpretation of that, but I was very pleased to see that some of our key Stakeholders, particularly CARB came out in strong support for our project.

Speaker 11

So that's encouraging and we'll monitor any comments We receive over the next 60 days and address those accordingly. At the end result, we are hopeful to get a land use permit And that's the big deal because what that does is that allows us to go ahead and start construction. And What I want to emphasize is the project is ready for that Phase 1. We're done with the engineering. We've got material stage and we're ready Put the building trades to work on getting Phase 1 going.

Speaker 11

As far as our outlook on it, we remain where we've been in the past where second half

Speaker 2

And Roger, it's Mike. I'll just add to what Ray was saying. First off, on your question on feedstock, so we continue to have Commercial discussions around that. We have kept that kind of close to the vest for now, and we'll keep it that way while we're having some of these discussions. But what I wanted to point out to you is like Ray said, we're at an important point in the project.

Speaker 2

We're out for public comment. Like Ray said, we're ready to go to construction. I know the market has been asking us to disclose the capital. We're looking forward to doing that. We've been holding that back to get through this Regulatory process, once we're through that, then hopefully we'll be able to give you a lot more color with respect to capital and feedstocks and everything else as to where we are.

Speaker 2

But this important part of this process, as Ray just mentioned, will play itself out. And then hopefully by the next time that we talk, we'll be able to give you more color.

Speaker 9

I appreciate that. The other question I had just to go the opposite direction of the discussion earlier on Essentially coming up with a different solution for the Kenai unit. A lot of units are for Sale out there from various operators on refining. And I was just curious, you Did a big transaction shortly before you took this role, understandable you'd want to clean up some of what you bought and some of what you already had. But as you Look out over the next 3 to 5 years, is there any interest in expanding the refining footprint or You look at the issues with CAFE standards, EVs, etcetera, and you say, generally speaking, we're probably shrinking refining from here.

Speaker 9

I'm just Curious how you're kind of looking at it strategically.

Speaker 2

Hey, Roger, it's Mike again. So I'd like to I never say never, But it's not a high priority for us to increase our refining position. I think the higher priority for us is to increase Our opportunities in the energy evolution, you see us doing some things in renewables. We've gotten a few other ideas that we're percolating on that Hopefully in time we'll advance the portfolio. But probably in general, as a general rule, we're looking to balance the portfolio and head a little bit more leaning in towards Where things are going to be growing over the next couple of decades if we get the right opportunity.

Speaker 9

All right, great. Thank you.

Speaker 2

You're welcome.

Speaker 1

Our next question comes from Prashant Rao with Citigroup. Your line is open.

Speaker 10

Hi, thanks for taking the question. If I could follow-up on Martinez a bit. Mike, you talked about where you are with feedstocks and obviously I appreciate keeping that close to the vest right now. But perhaps viewed another way, could you help us out with maybe thinking about The CI score or a range of CI scores, what sort of bandwidth you're looking at that's feasible or realistic So what's going to be produced out of Martinez? And maybe if I could tie that into some recent news and some movement we've had here on Sustainable Aviation Fuel where it looks like not only is the blenders tax credit higher, but it ties in an emissions reduction factor.

Speaker 10

Is that also sort of on the table that given where Windman will be coming on stream, you'll have a SaaS BTC credit as well. So Does that how does that change how you think about purposing the asset?

Speaker 2

So Prashant, I'll start off and then I'll let Ray give you a little bit more color on SAF, etcetera. So the first item is when we sanctioned this Project, we assumed 100 percent soybean. So we assumed the highest CI, in theory, worst feed that we Could imagine here because over a long period of time, the market will equilibrate. Obviously, in the short term, we are looking to Provide some better opportunity on the feedstock side for Dickinson and for Martinez. But as I said, we're going Keep that discussion a little close to the vest right now while we get through this whole regulatory period.

Speaker 2

As far as SAF, we are open to the opportunity for us, It comes with some puts and takes and I'll let Ray give you a little bit more color on that.

Speaker 11

Sure, Mike. I just want to emphasize in the first portion of the Martinez project, Phases 1, 23, SAF isn't in the base scope for what we are engineering and building. However, having said that, we believe that SAF Will be an opportunity for Martinez and to support that, we're currently doing engineering work at Martinez As far as what the CapEx would be to add that to the portfolio, I think everybody knows that SAF Economics We'll compete with renewable diesel. We believe that the economic drivers for SAF are not there right now, but They will be there eventually as regulatory and product demand support builds for this. And so that's why we're evaluating that at Martinez.

Speaker 11

I just want to emphasize in our near term, our next 2 year focus at Martinez, we're not building for SAF, but that's Definitely a future enhancement to the plan.

Speaker 10

Thanks. That's very helpful. And my second question, just to Touch back and I think Mike and Mary Anne you both talked about this in answering previous questions on this call, but I just wanted to take A different tack on this on the capital allocation framework or potential for 1. You are making great progress on the debt. The buyback is 25% through on the Speedway proceeds now.

Speaker 10

I guess, and I know I've asked this before and others have too. Eventually, can we expect that there should be a framework for return to shareholders out of organic cash flows? And in terms of timing of when that might get announced, What do you need to see to be able to give us a bit better definition on that? Do you need I mean, is it something that You need to be maybe midway through the Speedway proceeds buyback and with a good view into 2022 right now? Or Would you look to maybe get through the $10,000,000,000 first and then it becomes more of sort of a 2023 or further out question?

Speaker 10

Just I know it's a bit specifically if you can help us think about gauging our expectations on that, I think that'll be helpful. Thanks.

Speaker 3

Sure. Thanks for the question. So maybe just a couple of things to just state here. You're right, 25% of that Share repurchase as we shared of that $10,000,000,000 well on our way to complete no later than the end of 2022. And hopefully, as you've heard in terms of the debt reduction consistent with what we've been sharing with you and certainly short term in nature.

Speaker 3

I think what we've been discussing and what we've tried to share with you is we'd like to see more progress around our $10,000,000,000 share repurchase Before we begin to provide a little more structural content on how we think about the remaining use of that cash. We'd want to get a little bit further along in that $10,000,000,000 before we give you any more specifics around that. I'll pass it back to Mike and I think he wants to add a little more color for you.

Speaker 2

No, I think Mary Anne just said it very well. We're just trying not to get ahead of ourselves In the program, Manav asked earlier, are we looking at some opportunities that maybe are inorganic? We continue to look at that. We definitely have excess cash to the point that was opening in the call. As margins recover, we hope to be continuing to generate more Cash through our business.

Speaker 2

So we're just trying not to get in front of ourselves. We know we have cash beyond the commitment we've made today. We know there's going to be opportunities, and I understand your question, but we just don't want to get too ahead of ourselves because We're in a good spot and we have some time here to continue to execute the program. And as we move along, we'll disclose more and more. Obviously, we want to grow earnings, so we're looking for opportunities.

Speaker 2

I keep saying it's a return of and a return on capital business. We want to balance those. We're very committed to the return of as you've seen us executing now. We'd like to see some more opportunities in return on As we continue to look for opportunities to grow earnings. So it's just that balance as we move forward and just not trying to get ahead of ourselves While we have the time to execute.

Speaker 10

Makes sense. Thank you both for the time.

Speaker 2

You're welcome.

Speaker 1

Our next question will come from Theresa Chen with Barclays. Your line is open.

Speaker 12

Hi, there. First, I want to follow-up on the Discussion about Kenai. Mike, is your expectation that once the transaction happens that Kenai will remain as a Trillium refinery or is the operating environment, so difficult out there leading to your own decision to exit that it could be used for a different purpose once Teresa,

Speaker 2

I don't want to get ahead of the discussions that we're having, so I'm going to have to punt on that question. We're just like I said earlier, we're just in such advanced discussions with a couple different interested parties that have different Views of the marketplace that we just didn't feel that it was right to just ignore it on today's call in case something comes to closure. I will tell you that, Again, everybody knows this when you're doing deals. Even in advanced discussions, it may happen, it may not happen. We'll see how it plays out.

Speaker 2

And if it does, we'll have tried to give you some insight to it, and then we'll be able to talk a lot further about it if it does happen. If it doesn't happen, obviously, we'll come out and say that as well. But it's just the timing of the call and where we are in the discussions that we felt it was worth Given some disclosure.

Speaker 12

Got it. And going back to Rick's earlier comments about Line 3 and the Capline So currently line filling, I believe, and fully coming on in a couple of months. So as part owner and I believe the operator Operator of the system, the initially reverse capacity was pretty low and I was just wondering if you have expectations that it will grow over time On the heels of the Line 3 replacement bring 300 incremental 1,000 barrels per day to Patoka. And what do you think it could run rate as in

Speaker 8

Yes. Hi, Theresa. It's Rick again. So to your point, a lot of The answer truly depends on what grades are put on the line. Capline can move heavy or light and truly the volumes are going to Very significantly.

Speaker 8

From our perspective, we're excited about Capline. We obviously have Garyville sitting on the coast of the Eastern Gulf, and it can be a recipient, but truly volumes will be based on Demand from us and others, econ and then lastly, grade as I've already stated.

Speaker 12

Okay. And maybe if I could just clarify. So the initial reversal, I believe, was reconfiguring 3 out of the 16 pumps. If you had to reconfigure more to allow for more volumes, That's done pretty quickly.

Speaker 8

I would have to defer to MPLX on that, Teresa.

Speaker 2

Yes. Theresa, it's Mike. Yes, we have the ability to ramp up if the expansion is required. So I'll give you my take on top of Rick's. The whole genesis of the project is that Eastern Gulf is looking for more grades as Rick mentioned.

Speaker 2

Over time, my personal belief is there's going to be more interest there. The issue is supplying the pipe, whether it comes from the north. As you know, there was a project come out of Cushing that doesn't look like it's going to go forward at this point, but whatever can get Supply to that pipe, I think is going to be advantageous to get more optionality down to the Gulf Coast. As Rick mentioned, our facility in Garyville is Interested in some of the grades. The rest of the Eastern Gulf refining area would be interested in different types of opportunities As far as grade selection as well.

Speaker 2

So I'm a personal believer that over time, we're going to get debottlenecked and get more Availability of crude into that system and I do believe over time it is going to expand.

Speaker 12

Thank you.

Speaker 2

You're welcome.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Our next question will come from Connor Lynagh with Morgan Stanley. Your line is

Speaker 13

open. Yes, thanks. Thanks for squeezing me in. I've got 2 questions, but I think they're relatively related, so I'll just ask So one question that we've been trying to figure out is, you guys obviously have the significant savings that you flagged already from OpEx, but I think you've also flagged some operational improvements as well that might flow through more in terms of the capture rate or throughput margin, however you want to define it. Do you have any framework for how people can think about it?

Speaker 13

I know you don't want to go to the mid cycle framework, but just any thoughts On improvements that we should look for over the next year or 2 here. And the related question is, given that you have a lot of capital freeing up here, Are there any major upgrades or enhancements to your legacy refining business that you're considering over

Speaker 10

the next couple of years here?

Speaker 3

Hey, Connor, it's Mary Anne. Maybe I'll start here. I think what you're referring to is the commercial opportunities that we've been Sharing is part of those three pillars. We've done a lot of great work as we've said on cost reduction, strict capital discipline. Hopefully you see that Kenai is another example of our asset optimization.

Speaker 3

I think when we continue to look forward, we You'll believe that there are opportunities for us to improve on the commercial opportunities. You mentioned capture being one of them. And as we've shared, we're a little bit, I'd say we keep that close to the vest for competitive reasons. What we intend Straight to you as we go forward quarter by quarter is the actual realization of those efforts that have been ongoing by the commercial team And you'll see those appear and we obviously will call those out as they manifest through the earnings in the coming quarters.

Speaker 11

Connor, this is Ray. I'll briefly address your second question regarding refining spending. Probably the biggest thing that we have out there is a project that you've heard before, the Galveston Bay Star project. We still have some remaining spend on that, that will go into 2022 and 2023 to complete that modification to the Refinery, specifically the remaining scope dealing with the resid hydrocracker and one of the crude units, That's the biggest thing in refining on the go forward list at this point.

Speaker 13

All right. Thanks for that. I'll turn it back.

Speaker 1

Thank you.

Operator

Operator, are there any other questions in the queue?

Speaker 1

We are showing no further questions at this time.

Operator

Well, thank you everyone for your interest in Marathon Petroleum Corporation. Should you have additional questions or would you like clarification on the topics discussed this morning, please reach out And our IR team will be available to take your call. Thank you so much for joining us today.

Speaker 1

That does conclude today's conference. Thank you again for your participation. You may disconnect at this time.

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