FedEx Q3 2021 Earnings Call Transcript

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November 10, 2021

There are 10 speakers on the call.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Organon Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and Answer Session. As a reminder, this call is being recorded.

Operator

Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Jennifer Halcyk, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please begin your conference. Call.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Polly. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining our Q3 2021 earnings call. With me today are Kevin Ali, Organon's Chief Executive Officer, who will cover strategy and operational highlights and Matt Walsh, our Chief Financial Officer, who will review performance, guidance and capital allocation. Call.

Speaker 1

Today, we'll be referencing a presentation that will be visible during this call for those of you on our webcast. This presentation will also be available following this call on the Events and Presentations section of our Organon Investor Relations website at organon.com. Before we begin, I would like to caution listeners that certain information discussed call. The earnings release issued

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by management during

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this conference call will include forward looking statements. Actual results could differ materially from those stated call implied by forward looking statements due to risks and uncertainties associated with the company's business, which are discussed in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our Form 10 registration statement and subsequent periodic filings. In addition, we will discuss certain non GAAP financial measures on this call, call, which should be considered a supplement to and not a substitute for financial measures prepared in accordance with GAAP. A reconciliation of these non GAAP measures to the comparable GAAP measures is included in the press release and conference call presentation. I'd now like to turn the call over to our CEO, Kevin Ollie.

Speaker 3

Call. Good morning, everyone, and thank you, Jen. Welcome to today's call, where we will talk about our 1st full quarter as a standalone company. Call. Also, as today is Veterans Day in the U.

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S. And Remembrance Day in other parts of the world, we would like to thank all of those who have served, especially our own employee veterans. Call. Let me start by saying I continue to be inspired by the commitment of our employees across the world. They are unified in the dedication to our vision, creating a better and healthier every day for every woman.

Speaker 3

Already, less than 6 months after spinning into an independent company, we are delivering on our corporate and financial goals. Our year to date results have shaped up very much in line with our expectations call. With 3rd quarter revenues of $1,600,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA of 636,000,000 call. And with about 7 weeks left in 2021, we have good visibility into the performance of each of our key 3 franchises for the remainder of the year. Accordingly, we affirmed our guidance and narrowed the ranges for revenue and adjusted EBITDA margin call for full year 2021, which Matt will discuss with all of you shortly.

Speaker 3

Importantly, we have been active on the business development front, call. As we told you we would be, we have executed 3 transactions in the last 6 months. This underscores our stated commitment to deliver healthcare interventions that address unmet and under met needs in women's health. We're partnering with or acquiring companies to advance True innovation, something that has been willfully lacking in the area of women's health. Today, we announced our proposed acquisition of Ferendo, a Fund, a clinical stage drug development company focused on novel treatments in women's health.

Speaker 3

This acquisition brings a pipeline of candidates, including a lead candidate for endometriosis and a secondary candidate in polycystic ovary syndrome or PCOS. Endometriosis Call is a high priority unmet need for us. It affects up to 170,000,000 patients or up to 10% of all women of reproductive age. Current therapies and development candidates target the pain associated with endometriosis, but do not address disease progression. Call.

Speaker 3

Such treatments are therefore unsuitable beyond short term use in premenopausal women. Completing the acquisition of Forinda will be another step in building our end to end women's health portfolio. It joins Call. Our other recent additions, including Olivia Health and its JADA system, which Organon acquired in June of this year. Call.

Speaker 3

The JADA system is aimed at controlling abnormal postpartum bleeding or hemorrhage, one of the most common complications of birth, call, impacting up to 10% of mothers and potentially resulting in emergency interventions such as hysterectomy and blood transfusions. Call. In July, we also announced the licensing of the global development, manufacturing and commercial rights to an investigational agent, evopiprant from ObsEva. Evopiprant is currently being studied as a first in class innovation for the treatment of preterm labor, call, which impacts an estimated 15,000,000 babies or about 11% of all babies born globally. These acquisitions call.

Speaker 3

Are tightly aligned with our goal to be the leader in women's health by addressing the significant unmet needs of women. Call. We have quickly expanded beyond contraception and fertility where we are well established and already hold leading market share positions. Conference Call. I want to turn my attention to fertility, where we saw revenue growth of approximately 30% year to date ex FX.

Speaker 3

Call. We don't believe the opportunity for the products in our fertility portfolio, follistin, Orgalutron and Elanba are always well understood. Call. These products are used in the patient friendly GnRH antagonist protocol, which requires fewer injections

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call and is favored in conjunction with egg and embryo freezing.

Speaker 3

Globally, infertility rates are increasing. We have seen the average age call. For giving birth to a first child increased from 21 years old in 1970 to 29 years old today. About 15% of couples worldwide experience infertility, impacting almost 190,000,000 people. Call.

Speaker 3

These figures are impacted by women proactively choosing to delay parenthood until an optimal time due to advances in modern call. Not just a personal family planning issue, but also have an impact on GDP. In 100 countries, birth rates are now below 2.1,

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call. The level needed to maintain

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the population. Low birth rates are a growing threat to some very large economies such as China, the U. S. And Plan triggering public sector responses that serve as structural tailwinds for fertility treatment. Recently, China introduced the 3 child policy.

Speaker 3

Call. Next year, Japan will introduce reimbursement for IVF treatments and the French, Swiss and Spanish government recently passed bills allowing egg freezing and IVF treatments for same sex couples. These recent changes are just the beginning of providing equal access to reproductive assistance. Notes. Government interest in increasing fertility rates and changing laws on access to reproductive assistance makes us optimistic for the growing prospects of our fertility portfolio.

Speaker 3

Let's talk now about contraception and Nexplanon, The number 2 contraceptive worldwide by revenue. We believe Nexplanon, the LARC or long acting reversible contraceptive, has blockbuster potential. Call. Historically, there has been a sustained shift in the hormonal contraception market away from the daily combined oral contraceptive segment towards LARX. LARCs are highly efficacious and considered to be one of the most effective forms of hormonal contraception.

Speaker 3

Implanon Call contraceptive comprised of a progesterone only rod inserted in a woman's upper arm. Average insertion time takes about a minute. Call. Historically, Nexplanon sales have been highly correlated with well visits and logically the pandemic dampened our ability to reach healthcare providers and patients, Conference, especially in the U. S.

Speaker 3

However, as the pandemic is slowly receding, we are seeing improvements in recent weeks. Additionally, since NEX call. As far as been in our hands, we have been aggressively working to modernize the brand's marketing and our operating model. This has included call. A direct to consumer education campaign in television and social media with digital campaigns to drive traffic to our revamped Web site where patients can find healthcare professionals by zip code trained in Nexplanon insertion.

Speaker 3

This was complemented by targeted bespoke campaigns Conference aimed at specific patient segments. Additionally, our clinical training programs ramped up quickly once providers' offices reopened. We trained over 7 15 100 healthcare professionals in the 3rd quarter alone, which is above our pre pandemic baseline levels. Call. And we trained over 6,000 healthcare professionals in Q2.

Speaker 3

This is a steep ramp up from the 2,000 that were trained in Q1. Call. And we believe it's contributing to increasing demand and we are very encouraged by the results of these programs, especially given we're less than 6 months into this journey. Call. We continue to feel very positive about Nexplanon Path, particularly now midway through the Q4.

Speaker 3

Call. Now, let's talk about biosimilars, which has grown 30% year to date and where we are well positioned with our commercial strategy. Call. In the U. S, our two offerings are Renflexis, our infliximab biosimilar and octrasinox, our trastuzumab biosimilar.

Speaker 3

The infliximab Market continues to grow every year and RINFLEXIS has benefited from that tailwind, with sales still growing even 4 years after launch. The trastuzumab market has some of the highest adoption rates, about 70% among biosimilars, and the uptake of Entrazant in the U. S. Continues to show unit growth since release launch last year. Outside the U.

Speaker 3

S, our recent launches of Hadlima in Australia and Canada have been call as we pursue the potential opportunity to present it by the estimated $100,000,000,000 plus of blockbuster biologics going off patent over the next update. As we now turn our attention to established brands, I'll repeat what I said last quarter. Call. Part of the strategic timing of our spend is that 2021 is an inflection year. It is the last year during which the portfolio is call subject to significant new LOE risk.

Speaker 3

Beyond 2021, the impact from the LOE decreases significantly. Call. For example, in China, our retail business now representing almost 50% of our China established brands revenue continues to grow and positioning Organon for sustainable growth in China post VPP. Importantly, we are taking a very entrepreneurial view call. And have uncovered a number of accretive opportunities within our existing portfolio.

Speaker 3

For example, we anticipate release. The decline in Asia Pacific is primarily related to Zetia's loss of exclusivity in Japan. In the U. S, the LOE from NuvaRing as well as Nexplanon performance through the pandemic were factors. However, importantly, we continue to grow in China despite 4 of our products being included in the volume based procurement process in the Q4 of impact in 2020, the favorable positioning of our fertility portfolio and continued contribution from the retail channel.

Speaker 3

Call. Overall, we are very encouraged by our performance in this very important market. Now, I'd like to turn it over to Matt

Speaker 4

conference. Let's start briefly with basis of presentation and make sure we align on exactly what numbers we're looking at, where we have apples to apples comparability And where we may have something less than that. On the plus side, our 3rd quarter results mark the first time that Organon is reporting an entire quarter of standalone results. As I discussed in last quarter's call, our results prior to the June 2 spin off date are presented on the carve out basis of accounting. Card out accounting is a GAAP convention, which has a lot of positives.

Speaker 4

However, it's not intended to present results as if Organon were a standalone company. So I want to be clear as we discuss results for this quarter and for the next three quarters that any comparisons to prior year periods will be somewhat to oranges in that we'll be comparing Organon's standalone performance to pre spin carve out basis of accounting. With that said, call. Where we'll have the best comparability is at the revenue line. So I'll be focusing attention at the top line as we discuss our performance.

Speaker 4

Call. So turning to Slide 8. Revenue for the 3rd quarter was $1,600,000,000 down 1% as reported and down about 3% at constant currency exchange rates when compared to the Q3 of last year. In this graphic, we break out the change in revenue according to key drivers, and I'll highlight some of the more significant impacts. The impact of loss of exclusivity or LOE during the Q3 compared to the Q3 of last year Continuing to read across the waterfall chart, the Established Brands portfolio has exposure to BBP in China.

Speaker 4

Call. The total impact of sales for the Q3 compared to the Q3 of last year was approximately $60,000,000 and was associated with the 3rd round of VBP, the largest round so far, which occurred in the Q4 of 2020 and that included 4 of Organon's products, Singular Pediatrics, Proscar, Propecia and Arcoxia. Call. In the Q3 of 2021, the negative impact of COVID-nineteen was estimated to be approximately $100,000,000 call, which is about $20,000,000 above Q3 of last year. Our product portfolio is comprised of physician prescribed products, call, which have been impacted by the shortage of qualified personnel, social distancing measures and delayed medical visits.

Speaker 4

Call. In the Q3, we continued to see lingering effects from COVID as compared to the year ago quarter, including as Kevin just mentioned, a slower return of well visits, segment, which particularly impacts Nexplanon. We continue to observe restrictive measures, which vary by country and region, call. So we expect to see some further lingering negative impacts from COVID persisting into the Q4. Although, we believe we're quarter.

Speaker 4

Starting to see encouraging trend developments in U. S. Nexplanon early in the Q4, which could be pointing to stronger sequential performance in Q4 versus Q3. Foreign exchange translation at about 200 basis points of favorability for the quarter. Call.

Speaker 4

Year to date, that impact is more pronounced at about 3 50 basis points, which is not really surprising given the impact of call. COVID-nineteen on global currency markets in the prior year period and also understanding that about 75% of our revenues derived outside the United States. Call. And finally, on the plus side, we saw volume growth in Q3, mainly driven by growth in China, in U. S.

Speaker 4

Biosimilars and in Europe with Established Brands. So now let's take a look at performance by franchise and we'll start with Women's Health on Slide 9. Call. Our women's health business was down 10% as reported and 11% at constant currency in the 3rd quarter versus the prior year. Call.

Speaker 4

Nexplanon declined 8% ex FX in the quarter. As Kevin mentioned, well visits are not yet back to pre pandemic levels in the U. S. And Nexplanon sales are largely tied to that metric. So we know the question on investors' minds is, call.

Speaker 4

Can Nexplanon have a $200,000,000 revenue quarter in Q4? And while we don't provide specific guidance by product, This question is important enough to address and provide you with at least a directional answer. And based on current visibility into the data that we're looking at, call. We do see 4th quarter as being favorable for U. S.

Speaker 4

Nexo. There's three reasons why. Reason number 1 goes back to the quarter just completed. 3rd quarter negative growth should be considered in the context of Q3 2020 being a tough comp from the standpoint call that in September of last year, even though we were in the pandemic, we saw a short lived resurgence in patient well visits that positively impacted 3rd quarter 2020 Nexplanon sales. There has been volatility in the trend of patient OBGYN well visits over the last year, call.

Speaker 4

But for the Q3 of last year, those visits were almost back to a pre COVID baseline and Q3 2020 Nexplanon sales were the highest since the start of the pandemic. So the message here is that the Q3 of 2020 was a tough comp for Nexplanon. Second reason goes to phasing of revenues within this year. There was a tender that we were expecting in the Q3 in Mexico that was delayed and has now become signed business for us in the Q4. 3rd and final reason goes back to what Kevin said about our next benign DTC campaign call in the United States, which began running this summer.

Speaker 4

It's starting to show results now, as well as other new digital campaigns that are raising brand awareness for and driving sizable increases in our website traffic by potential new users. Beyond Exponent, Also pressuring women's health this quarter was the continuing and expected decline in NuvaRing, down 17% ex FX in the quarter, call related to increased generic penetration as a result of the products LOE in 2018 in the U. S. On a call. Positive note, our fertility portfolio continues to show strength.

Speaker 4

Follaston grew 18% call. Volume growth came from an increase in demand from new accounts as well as from patients returning to clinics. Our observation has been that patients seeking fertility treatments are more motivated to return to doctors' offices call and those patients seeking normal course OBGYN well visits. Turning to biosimilars on Slide 10. Biosimilars grew 41% call.

Speaker 4

As reported in the Q3 and 39 percent ex FX. We have 5 assets in the portfolio, 3 in immunology and 2 in oncology. Call. RENFLEXIS and Entrezon are our 2 largest offerings and both are offered in the U. S.

Speaker 4

Globally, RENFLEXIS grew 43% ex FX in the quarter, quarter, driven by strong performance in the U. S. And Oncrazant, which was launched in the U. S. In July of last year, was up 47%.

Speaker 4

The biosimilars business outside the U. S, which represents about half of our total biosimilars revenue, is tender driven and therefore it's more price call. Timing of tenders can also make this business somewhat lumpy, and we benefited from that in the 3rd quarter. So while we are coming off 2 quarters of about 40% year on year revenue growth in biosimilars, we see some moderation of that growth rate for the remainder of 2021, resulting in solid double digit revenue growth year on year. I now turn to Established Brands on Slide 11.

Speaker 4

Revenue for established brands was down 6% as reported and 8% ex FX in the Q3 of 2021. Call. Excluding the impacts of LOE, revenue was down 4% ex FX. Volumes were up incrementally, mainly driven by COVID rebound, call, although not as strong as it was in Q2, as well as growth in China retail. Price was down about 5% across the established brands portfolio.

Speaker 4

Given that this is a portfolio of medicines that for the most part are well beyond their LOEs, it may be counterintuitive to investors to hear that in the 3rd quarter quarter. We're actively managing lifecycle opportunities across the portfolio. These factors support our May Investor Day discussion that we expect erosion in this portfolio to be in the low single digit area ex LOE over the intermediate term. China. China is an important market for established brands, and part of our strategy in this market has been to drive volumes into the retail channel versus our historical presence in the hospital channel, and this effort continues to be successful.

Speaker 4

The retail channel in China grew 20% in the Q3 versus prior year and now represents almost 50% of Established Brands revenue in China, up from approximately 35% a year ago. Now turning to our income statement on Slide 12. Our GAAP income statements for Q3 year to date are available in our earnings release and I encourage investors to look at that important information. Here on Slide 12, call. We'll be looking at our non GAAP income statement for these same time periods.

Speaker 4

For gross margins, we're excluding purchase accounting amortization and one time items related to the spin off from cost of goods sold. So making these straightforward adjustments, in the Q3 of 2021, Non GAAP adjusted gross profit was $1,000,000,000 representing gross margin of 64.9% compared with 68.6% in the 3rd quarter of 2020. The decline reflects costs associated with standing up Organon as an independent company, call, including certain costs related to manufacturing agreements between Organon and Merck, which have lower gross margin percentages compared to product sales. Those manufacturing agreements had an approximate 180 basis point negative impact to gross margins in the 3rd quarter. Call.

Speaker 4

Also included in the cost of goods sold this quarter was a $24,000,000 one time cost related to estimated losses associated with the vendor supply contract conveyed as part of the spin, which had a 160 basis point negative impact to gross margins. There were some spin related accounting items that partially offset this unfavorability, but this quarter's gross margin is a good example actually call where we have apples and oranges comparability issues with prior year comparisons and why our 2021 guidance becomes a much more useful yard call. Adjusted EBITDA margins were 39.8 percent in the 3rd quarter, which brings year to date margins to 38.9%. Call. We had told you last quarter that we expected second half EBITDA margins to be lower than the first half.

Speaker 4

The reason why our EBITDA margins are running stronger than we forecasted call. It's driven by lower operating expenses and this is mainly timing related. We're onboarding our standalone operating expenses a bit more slowly than we thought in headcount costs as well as promotional spending in certain markets. And if you're doing back the envelope math, you'd likely draw the conclusion that Q4 adjusted EBITDA margin would have to be markedly lower than year to date for us to finish within the EBITDA margin guidance range that we'll be discussing shortly. But we do expect operating expenses increase sequentially in the 4th quarter relative to the 3rd quarter as the pace of onboarding some of these expenses speeds up going into year end.

Speaker 4

Call. Given the strong EBITDA performance in Q3, we did consider raising the adjusted EBITDA margin guidance range for the full year, call, but it would have been by a relatively small amount. So instead, we elected to just narrow the range and communicate to you a high and improved level of confidence and the guidance that we are affirming. A few words on debt capitalization on Slide 13. At September 30, our bank debt was $9,300,000,000 call against cash and cash equivalents of $1,000,000,000 Now embedded in that cash balance is approximately $320,000,000 that is earmarked Debt number as of September 30 is closer to $8,600,000,000 If we use the implied midpoint Of our 2021 EBITDA guidance, just for illustrative purposes, that would put our pro form a net leverage at about 3.7 times, call, which is a modest improvement in leverage ratio compared sequentially to last quarter.

Speaker 4

And one more item here, our imputed cash flow for the Q3 is a good indicator that we are meeting our pre spin forecasting and is representative of the cash generating power of this business. Excluding one time cost of the separation, a level of which we believe is very manageable. Our second priority will be organic growth, call. And that would include life cycle management opportunities for existing products within our portfolio, supported by capital deployed in our manufacturing plants. Call.

Speaker 4

And on the latter, we expect to see annual CapEx in the range of 3% to 4% of revenue on an ongoing basis, once again excluding separation costs. Call. Our 3rd priority for capital allocation is really a tie. It's a tie between A, execution of external growth plans to develop a pipeline of new product opportunities like you've seen us announce already: ALYDIA Health in the JADA system, investigational evopiprant for preterm labor call. And now Forendo targeting endometriosis.

Speaker 4

We'll balance that against B, debt reduction, and our commitment to maintaining our BBBA2 2 parent rating. We are targeting a long term leverage ratio below 3.5 times net debt to adjusted EBITDA. Call. Turning to guidance on Slide 14. Consistent with previous communications, this guidance is all non GAAP and pro form a as if the spin off happened on January 1st of this year.

Speaker 4

Beginning with revenue, this is a chart we showed at Investor Day and changes since then have really been at the margin. Call. Based on where we are in the year, we're narrowing our full year 2021 revenue range from $6,100,000,000 to $6,200,000,000 to The $6,200,000,000 to $6,300,000,000 LYNX revenue is essentially all organic. We do include a de minimis partial year revenue contribution from the acquisition of Alidya Health. The biggest component to the year over year change in revenue is the expected LOE impacts.

Speaker 4

In Baxdormella, we were approximately $280,000,000 year to date and are primarily related to the loss of After 2021, our LOE exposure dissipates to approximately $300,000,000 cumulatively over the next 4 years combined, 2022 through year end 2025. We now think our VDP exposure in China for the year will be on the low end of the $200,000,000 to $300,000,000 range we previously communicated. Year to date exposure has been $150,000,000

Speaker 2

and we have

Speaker 4

a fairly good understanding of what will be included in the next rounds of BBP, which is likely to include EZTRAL, Hi, Zar and Nasonex. Now COVID is something that we're obviously watching very closely. We updated our view on COVID impact last quarter to expect Which was about $400,000,000 Year to date 2021 impact from COVID was $320,000,000 And given the recent trends that we've seen in Nex call in the Q4. On a yearly basis, we expect foreign exchange translation to be a modest tailwind based on year to date currency performance and where spot rates are currently. And finally, for performance, we've tweaked this bucket down a hair, and this is mostly tied to my earlier commentary on call, largely to be expected despite the uncertainties introduced by COVID.

Speaker 4

The key themes that we've been talking about in our public communications prior to spin off and since the spin off remains very much intact and those are LOE issues that are weighted, women's health, especially fertility and biosimilars that are delivering growth and China that's performing very well despite VBP headwinds. Turning to other guidance metrics on Slide 15. The message here is that for all the items shown, we're affirming prior guidance for most metrics. And for revenue and adjusted EBITDA, we're simply narrowing the ranges in light of where we are in the fiscal year. Reiterating the point I made earlier, call.

Speaker 4

During 2021, we've onboarded operating expenses more deliberately than we had forecasted. We're not yet at our run rate for SG and A expense as an independent company. We know R and D expense will be increasing in 2022 and beyond as we add pipeline assets. And I say this more as we start to look forward to next fiscal year and we will provide quantitative guidance for 2022 when we report our full year 2021 results in February. Wrapping up the financial discussion, Call.

Speaker 4

The franchises are progressing as we had expected. And given our outlook for 2021, we continue to believe that we're well positioned for future organic revenue growth in the low to mid single digits on a constant currency basis. This will be driven by stabilization in the Established Brands portfolio and continued growth in both women's health and biosimilars, each of which has the potential to grow at low double digit CAGRs in the intermediate term. Call. At this point, I'll turn the call back to

Speaker 3

Kevin for closing remarks. Thank you, Matt. Again, we are very pleased with how our year has been taking call. Timing is in our favor as we move out from the negative impacts of the LOEs and can focus on building out our vision. Call.

Speaker 3

Further as the pandemic starts to recede, we have doubled down on our operational investments behind Nexplanon in the U. S. To ensure that we meet her where she is. Call. And we have started to see very positive impact to those investments in the 1st weeks of Q4.

Speaker 3

We've been very call, as well as the recently commercialized device in JADA, which is helping to address a significant unmet need. All in all, call. We are very pleased with our 3rd quarter performance and all the evidence points to a solid 4th quarter to finish off the year. So now we're happy to take your questions. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Molly, I think we can queue up the first question.

Operator

Thank Your first question comes from the line of Chris Schott for JPMorgan.

Speaker 5

Great. Thanks so much for the questions. My first one was just on EBITDA margins call. As we think about going forward, I guess given some of the comments you're making about the timing of onboarding and the R and D step up, can you just directionally help us in 'twenty two. I know you're not giving formal guidance yet.

Speaker 5

I guess just at a high level, I guess I'm assuming we shouldn't use 4Q as a run rate for margins. But when we think about full year margins for next year, is it fair to think about those coming down a bit from 'twenty one as again it sounds like SG and A comes up, R and D comes up. So just any call. Any directional color there, I think, would be very much appreciated. And then my second question was just on the pipeline build out.

Speaker 5

You've done 3 deals this year. Call. Should we think about these type of transactions, which seem like there's some R and D elements to them, they seem a bit smaller in size as kind of the sweet spot call. In terms of acquisitions, both near and long term, or do we think about deals starting to skew towards larger transactions as you delever? So I'm trying to sense it like call.

Speaker 5

If there wasn't capital constraints right now, would you be also mixing in some larger deals? Or again, is this these type of transactions more the go forward to think about? Call. Thanks so

Speaker 4

much. So I'll start with the EBITDA margin question, Chris. This is obviously sensitive territory because we're not providing 2022 guidance today. I want to Clear on that. Directionally, though, providing maybe some bumpers, I think the comment that you made well, Let's back up and just repeat some of the prepared comments, which were geared to just start to address this question, which is We know that R and D expense will be increasing in 2022 to support pipeline assets.

Speaker 4

This is, We believe very important for the future sustainable revenue growth of the company, so you'll see R and D expenses increasing. Call. We've been very careful about how we are adding cost to the SG and A line to Reach out what we believe our run rate is, but every dollar that we're adding, we're analyzing it very carefully. So that said, you had said, call. Chris, looks like 2022 EBITDA margin was likely to be below what you're guiding for in 2021.

Speaker 4

I think directionally, that's It's a fair statement. You also said, how should we think about the 4th quarter EBITDA margin in the context of 2020 It might not be as low as that. I think that's directionally accurate. I think it probably makes sense to just stop there at this point and we'll be providing quantitative, very transparent guidance in February.

Speaker 3

And Chris, to your second point in regards To kind of our appetite on business development. Look, even though we're just shy of 6 months into this journey since we rang the bell on June 3, call. We've been working on these assets in terms of identifying, reaching out to potential targets well over probably 6 months, a year before that. So We've been very disciplined, exceptionally disciplined in the way that we've looked at our business development portfolio. We did signal, earlier on in the Investment Day that call.

Speaker 3

We were going to kind of using baseball parlance kind of go after singles and doubles because we saw opportunities like for example with Jada call. To solve a significant unmet need in postpartum hemorrhage, we saw an opportunity with Aceba's product with preterm labor, a significant unmet need Day in that world. And now we are very excited about the Ferendo acquisition because they bring a new mechanism of action to treat a significant issue around the world, which is endometriosis affecting really 170 people 70,000,000 women across the world. So call. We see great opportunities there.

Speaker 3

I mentioned before, there's about 140 assets out there in various stages of development. But having said that, having said that, let me be clear. Call. We're not saying no to larger deals. We're not saying no to essentially anything that we believe that could be accretive Ultimately down the road for Oregonon, we are open to whatever is actually going to be working best for us as a company.

Speaker 3

And so but right now, what we We see as opportunities that are really what we consider low hanging fruit to go after in order to be able to really round out our portfolio and be a leader in women's health. Call.

Speaker 5

Thanks so much.

Operator

And your next question comes from the line of Navane Thay with Citi. Call.

Speaker 6

Hi, good morning. Can you discuss your expectation on the recovery of contraception visits And Nexplanon and when do you expect DTC and training programs to benefit Nexplanon sales? And then my second question is around the cash balance, which was higher than I expected. Can you discuss the free cash flow generation this quarter and going forward? Call?

Speaker 6

Thank you.

Speaker 3

So let me take that first question. It's a very important question in regards to the performance of Nexplanon. Call. Look, I mean, the thing to keep in mind is the fact that we truly believe that Nexplanon will be a blockbuster for all of us. We have patent protection until 2027 with an opportunity to extend it to 2,030 as we start to round out and look at our 5 year extension data that will possibly come through and report out in the 2025 timeframe.

Speaker 3

Call. Having said that, we've invested, really truly invested in the operational opportunities in the U. S. Call. And I'd like to point out 3 key investments.

Speaker 3

And then ultimately, I'm going to lead to answering your question by after going through that. Clinical training programs. These are essentially just to keep you in mind that physicians or healthcare providers need to be certified and trained on How to insert and remove Nexplanon in order to be able to prescribe the product. Prior to the pandemic, Merck had averaged about 18 1,000 certifications per year. Since spin, that would essentially be June through September, call.

Speaker 3

We've done 10,000 certifications. We're essentially averaging in the second and third quarters nearly 13,500 certifications. That is a significant proxy for Nexplanon uptake and performance going forward. Direct to consumer marketing, we've invested in a direct to call. Sumra initiated a TV and social media campaign with a well known celebrity and more importantly, real world users of Nexplanon.

Speaker 3

Call. Two observations. Unaided awareness of Nexplanon has increased when compared to the prior 3 months and our organic searches for Nexplanon information have increased call as we have made significant, really significant improvements and enhancements to ournexplanon.com site, where we expect to see about 7,000,000 visitors uniquely every year. Finally, representative activities as the COVID pandemic recedes over the last three quarters call. Of 2021 versus the 3 quarters of 2020, our representatives calls face to face have increased by 60%.

Speaker 3

Call. All of that is leading to the fact that right now in the 1st 5 weeks of performance of Q4. We see sales to distributors have increased strong double digits, strong double digits. We expect the 4th quarter Should be a very strong quarter for us in Nexplanon. And ultimately, as I've always been saying, as we start to invest in senior management attention, call.

Speaker 3

As we start to invest in some of these programs, we will see Nexplanon just from the sheer fact of the matter of what it can represent in dealing with Attended pregnancies in the U. S. And beyond start to really ramp up and start to go back to that double digit performance that we expect

Speaker 4

And on the second part of your question regarding free cash flow, the reason why we included Slide 13 of the earnings deck in the format that we did was so that investors would be able to triangulate Back to what 3rd quarter operating cash flow was and free cash flow. And so now the question is, It's that figure for operating cash flow that represented it. And I would tell you that there are One timers that are running through that, but they're going in both directions. Some good guys and some bad guys, to use colloquial terms that we use within the company, But they're netting out. So that the Q3 operating cash flow figure that we're looking at is really pretty representative of what the company Should do, and I put that in my prepared comments to say that the cash flow generating performance in Q3 is well aligned with what we had forecasted.

Speaker 4

So that much I can say for this fiscal year, and I'll refrain from making any free cash flow commentary for 2022 at this point.

Operator

And your next question comes from the line of Umer Rasek with Evercore.

Speaker 2

Call. Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my few questions, not one question today. I kind of thought it would be helpful today to focus on the latest tuck in that you guys announced on for Endo, just given the potential optionality. So, if I may, perhaps a few quick ones.

Speaker 2

1, could you speak to Endometrial thickness changes you saw in Phase 1b? And secondly, can you also speak to any ECG changes and or hypertension with this molecule so far? Retention with this molecule so far. 3rd, perhaps just the selectivity for 17B HSD1 versus sort of 11 beta or quarter. And finally, would you potentially intend to develop it in oncology indications as well?

Speaker 2

Thank you so much. Call.

Speaker 3

Thank you for that question. And I will say that, first of all, we are truly excited about the Ferendo announcement and potential acquisition going forward. It does I mean, when you think about endometriosis, it's really under researched, underfunded and misunderstood with Essentially an average of 8 to 10 years before a woman is actually diagnosed with the diagnosis of endometriosis. In regards to your questions on endometrial thickness, we're still we're just starting our Phase 2 proof of concept studies we expect to report out in the 2024, 2025 range with commercialization of this product, if all goes well, knock on wood, by the 20 27, 20 28 timeframe.

Speaker 4

It is something that we need

Speaker 3

to get back to you as we start to kind of Go down deep in terms of understanding exactly the data in that respect. We can return back to you on that. But just to say this, call. Currently, as you know, the treatment of endometriosis is really relied on pain medication and managing the symptoms in regards To endometriosis, not necessarily the underlying issues that are essentially causing the problems. GnRHs, for example, act systemically at the pituitary level, Cutting off all signals to females that the female reproductive system, which basically is plunging a woman into menopause and really causing all kinds of bone So that's why it's really short term usage.

Speaker 3

For 6,219, it's really targeting The estradiol pathway essentially targeting only impacting estrone to estradiol conversion process and that process is exclusively for endometriosis and ultimately all of the sequelae when you see in terms of inflammation and all the things regarding the pain and bleeding, all the issues Call. So, we feel very excited about this mechanism. It is a potential and I underscore potential for disease modification as well as managing the symptoms of endometriosis really at the site of where it really needs

Speaker 4

to be

Speaker 3

addressed. In terms of endometrial And in terms of any ECG or any cardiovascular issues, we'll get back to you in terms of as we start to be able

Operator

And your next question comes from the line of Stephen M. Scarlatti with Cowen.

Speaker 7

Thank you. I have a few questions and then an observation. Call. First, under the drug price reform proposal, reimbursement for Part B drugs would go from ASP+6 to ASP +1000 dollars. This would seem to potentially encourage prescribing of biosimilars over more expensive brand drugs.

Speaker 7

Can you put some numbers on it call. On that, to what extent could biosimilar usage increase by simply reimbursement changes? Or do you think that that's not correct, that biosimilar use will not be encouraged by any reimbursement change? Call. Second question is on the acquisition of Ferendo.

Speaker 7

The total consideration of $954,000,000 seems strikingly high. How would how much is that attributable to the lead asset versus the follow ons? And what happens with the existing collaboration with Novartis for chronic liver disease. And then lastly, the observation for a company that has a core strategy of business development, I'm surprised that business development is 3rd or even last on the capital allocation priority list. So that's it.

Speaker 7

Thank you.

Speaker 4

So let's take the capital allocation question first. So the business generates strong cash flow today. The collective view of our former parent Merck, our Board of Directors is that Investors should be able to share in that cash flow in real time and that the valuation of the company at a very sensitive time around the spin was that the dividend would be an important consideration in achieving the right value on the Company. So that was the reason for the institution of the dividend. And of course, once it's in, it does projects come in number 2, Steve, is because these are products that are already in the portfolio.

Speaker 4

They've got a demonstrated track record of Safety and Performance. And so simply introducing these products in new markets or potentially for adjacent indications are generally derisked investment opportunities And have very, very attractive risk adjusted returns. And I would also add, It's not a big consumer of capital in the overall scheme of things. So with the dividend being a relatively modest and manageable number, Call. With the organic growth plans being de risked and also modest and manageable, that still leaves really a substantial amount of our call.

Speaker 4

So I hope that explanation makes sense. In terms of the economics around the Ferendo deal, call. Of the number that you cited in terms of total consideration, dollars 600,000,000 of that are commercial milestones. So the product has to be successful commercially for most of the value of the deal to be realized. Call.

Speaker 4

And the consideration is about $84,000,000 upfront and then approximately $270,000,000 of clinical milestones. So we did wait the deal to be back ended and dependent call. As much as we could justify commercial success of the product. And yes, most of the value has been ascribed to the lead candidate. Call.

Speaker 4

And I think your last question was on biosimilars. And we do View the current dialogue in Washington as very positive for biosimilars, Steve, and it's difficult to quantify the impact for Organon at this point. Call. It will certainly be articulated when we provide guidance for 2022, but we do see the dialogue in Washington as being favorable for our portfolio biosimilar products.

Speaker 8

Thank you.

Operator

And your next question comes from the line of Greg Fraser with Truist Securities.

Speaker 2

Good morning, folks. Thanks for taking the questions. Call. Just following up on your comments around mexplanon, would you intend to suggest that $200,000,000 plus of sales in Q4 is achievable given the positive drivers that you mentioned? Call.

Speaker 2

And then on endometriosis, clearly an area of women's health with unmet need for Endo's assets appears promising. It's relatively early development. Would you say that call. It makes sense to have multiple shots on goal for endometriosis and is this an area that's more of a focus for DD? Thanks.

Speaker 3

You want to take the first question?

Speaker 4

I will. So we do see a $200,000,000 plus quarter Call. As well within the realm of achievability for Nexplanon. We wouldn't normally make those kind of definitive statements on a forward looking basis, especially for the quarter that we're in. Call.

Speaker 4

But we wanted to be responsive to any potential extrapolation of the Q3 results that we just announced on Nexplanon, we do see it as bucking sort of counter to the trend going forward for Nexplanon. And so we decided to put some definitive commentary around what we see in Q4. And so yes, we do see North of $200,000,000 has a real we have high confidence in that figure for Nexodon Q4 sales.

Speaker 3

Call. And Greg, to your second question in regards to endometriosis and shots on goal, Fernando does have backup compound to the LEED 6,219 compound. So we feel very excited and extremely call. Thrilled that we're able to work with Ferendo and acquire this potentially acquire this company for this very exciting asset. Call.

Speaker 3

And we look forward to being able to continue to develop this product out. And of course, they've got a very exciting earlier stage asset, Not in humans yet in terms of PCOS, which is another significant unmet need. And I just want to reiterate the fact that we started this journey saying that there was significant unmet needs in women's health across the world that there is this is the right time for a company like Oregonon to be born to take on those Challenges of being able to resolve issues like postpartum hemorrhage, preterm labor, endometriosis, PCOS, and this is the beginning of the journey in that But we do hear you and Veranda does have backup molecules.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Call. And your next question comes from the line of Jason Gerberry with Bank of America.

Speaker 8

Call. Hi, this is Ash Varma on for Jason. Thanks for taking our question. I just had one. In terms of contracting for biosimilars, spend during 2022, do you expect to have a line of sight on this contracting?

Speaker 8

Does the company believe that the payers will look to firm up the deals In the first half to mid-twenty two, given the early NTF first line similar in 2023?

Speaker 4

Release. Are you referring to HADLIMA specifically? Yes. Call.

Speaker 3

Okay. Yes, there's ongoing right now discussions. It's early. We expect to launch in June of 2023 with our Overall launching sequence, which is obviously a very important aspect in terms of sequence of launch. And right now, there are discussions.

Speaker 3

The unique thing about Organon is that the fact that the biosimilar team essentially moved over from Merck. And they've been working for a number of years and have significant great relationships with all the PBMs as well as call. There are ongoing discussions with them. You remember that this is a pharmacy dispense product. And so it's going to be controlled and

Speaker 8

Thank you.

Operator

And your next question comes from the line of Charlie Yang with Morgan

Speaker 2

Stanley. Call. Yes. So I just have two questions, please. I think one is, can you just call.

Speaker 2

I'll talk a little more details on the about similar price and volume dynamics going forward. And the second question is kind of regarding the Nexo NAND outlook. In the out years, what would that look like in terms of the growth acceleration and trend? Call.

Speaker 3

Yes. So, Charlie, I think that those are good questions. Let me take the next one on first. Call. As we've said in our last May in our Investor Day, we believe that Nexpon is poised for strong double digit growth.

Speaker 3

It was Double digit growing product prior to the pandemic. We believe that that will continue to be the case as soon as clinics start to open up as they are reopening now and staffs are coming back online. That's kind of why we made the investments we did in things like clinical training programs, direct to consumer marketing, all the rep activities that are ongoing right now and many other things that we're doing right now in the space. Keep in mind The Nexon really only has about 5% market share. So there's tremendous room for growth going forward.

Speaker 3

And we do have patent protection for some time in order to build this product out. It will be $1,000,000,000 product for us. We feel very sure about that. And as I mentioned, first half opportunities to really be able to utilize Nexolon in a manner by which kind of comes along with our vision of double digit growth for this product and blockbuster potential. In regards to the second point, I think you were mentioning in terms of price volume activity around HUMIRA Biosimilars.

Speaker 3

Look, we expect unlike, say, for example, hospital products like infliximab is and REMICADE, where the price call. It tends to move kind of a lumpy fashion, hospital by hospital, account by account. We do expect that it's going to move very quickly, not like small molecule erosion, but call. Nevertheless, it's going to move fairly quickly in terms of price erosion with the loss of exclusivity of HUMIRA and moving forward in 2023 as you start to see all the launches of biosimilars. And you're going to probably see anywhere between 7 to 8 biosimilar launches in the 1st, say, year of opportunities for biosimilars to come in.

Speaker 3

So we'll see, I think, significant erosion. Again, nothing like the small molecule type of erosion, but nothing like that you fee, for example, in hospital dispensed biosimilars that you see today.

Operator

Session. And your final question comes from the line of David Amsellem with Piper Jaffray.

Speaker 9

Call. Thanks. So I just had a couple. Another question on biosimilars and this relates to Hadlina, but it's also maybe a broader question as well. With Boehringer Ingelheim getting interchangeability, how do you call.

Speaker 9

Think about the role of interchangeability and what that means for your volume share or other products That don't have interchangeability. So this is really not the question about price, but more a question about volume share, Given the interchangeability dynamics. And then the second question I have is on ex U. S. Established brands.

Speaker 9

Call. Is there a good way to think about what maybe steady state pricing erosion, if there is any at all, Could be over the long term. I mean, it's a business that admittedly is a little more opaque. So I'm wondering if you could help us

Speaker 3

Okay, David. Let me take the first question in regards to interchangeability because I know it's coming up recently. Look, The way that we've really looked at this market, and let's just take HADLIMA rather than Humira biosimilars. You're right, Boringer does have a low dose interchangeability study that they've done. That represents a very small segment of the market.

Speaker 3

The majority of the market is in high dose, The High Dose segment. So really the following variables, we believe are very important. Order of entry, again, call. It's very important and we're still planning to be the 2nd to the market in June 2023. The high dose citrate free formulation It is exceptionally important because that is essentially what the dominant form is today with AbbVie's products.

Speaker 3

Real world experience, And we have that from successful launches in Europe, Canada and Australia for our Humira biosimilar, I had LIMA, which where we've launched That product in those places. Quality product from a manufacturing partner, you can rest assured it's got top line quality manufacturing, like for example Samsung BioEpis. But having said that, our thinking around interchangeability, especially interchangeability in high dose citrate freeform is evolving and we're in very active discussions with our partner in Samsung right now and we will take a decision call. Shortly in terms of what needs to be done in that space. But we are going to be very competitive.

Speaker 3

We are not going to be essentially call. A company that's going to have all the right variables to launch and succeed in this segment because it's an important area for us and not be competitive in regards to competitive Pressures from other companies. But keep in mind, there are no company is perfectly positioned. Call. As we look today in terms of being kind of early launching with high concentration citrate free dose, also having interchangeability designation for high concentration at launch, Nobody's got that.

Speaker 3

So essentially, it's going to be that we launch with what we have and then ultimately you'll see later post launch as many of the other competitors stating the interchangeability indication coming through. And in regards to established brands, what we do see let's have Matt address that. Call. Yes. So

Speaker 4

just to ground you, Dave, approximately 92% of our established brand sales are ex U. S. Across the entire portfolio, we see, let's say, over a planning horizon, so 4 or 5 years, We see price decline approximately 3% to 4% per year. We see volumes Across the portfolio growing about 1% to 2% per year, and that's what has been supporting our commentary that we see the Established Brands business having a low single digit CAGR in terms of glide path revenue over the foreseeable future.

Speaker 1

Call. Kevin, any other

Speaker 3

color? Yes. So thank you. Thanks everyone for your very thoughtful questions. But I just want to just say as we wrap up today's call, I want to conclude by saying we are exactly where we want to be.

Speaker 3

Call. At our 1st Investor Day in May, 1 month before spin, we laid out our plan for delivering low to mid single digit organic growth. We are delivering on what we committed to. Women's Health, driven by Nexplanon and fertility, remains positioned to deliver double digit growth over the intermediate period. Plus, call.

Speaker 3

We're making the changes necessary to build the foundation for continued growth going forward. Year to date, biosimilars are already delivering double digit growth and we expect that to happen over the planning period. We are stabilizing the Established Brands business with volume increases in more than 50% of our products, call. And we believe we have a pathway to sustain performance over the coming years. This portfolio serves as a cash generator contributing to the free cash flow that Matt Reference, enabling us to build out our pipeline with targeted and disciplined business development and life cycle management activity focused on our company's purpose call to address significant unmet medical needs in women's health.

Speaker 3

With our three deals in the past 6 months, we have lost no time in tackling areas where new innovation is Call. We have commercialized the JADA device to address postpartum hemorrhage launched in the U. S. With plans to bring it to the rest of the world as quickly as possible. Call.

Speaker 3

We've licensed ObsEva's investigational preterm labor agent, a new mechanism of action in a space with few options. Call. And our existing deal announced today our exciting deal announced today, the proposed acquisition of Ferendo brings an early stage asset with new mechanism of action being study for endometriosis, plus an earlier stage asset for PCOS. In addition, we have a number of lifecycle management opportunities underway, call, including the potential for an excellent 5 year label extension and many, many more. Overall, our company is shaping up just as we planned, sustainable, predictable and on strategy.

Speaker 3

So I want to thank you and we'll talk again early next year. All the best.

Operator

Call. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now

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