Ross Stores Q2 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

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August 18, 2021

There are 14 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to the Ross Stores Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Release Conference Call. The call will begin with prepared comments by management followed by a question and answer session. Before we get started, on behalf of Ross Stores, I would like to note that the comments made on this call will contain forward looking statements regarding expectations about future growth and financial results, including sales and earnings forecast, new store openings, COVID related costs and other matters that are based on the company's current forecast of aspects of its future business. These forward looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from historical performance or current expectations. Risk factors are included in today's press release and the company's fiscal 2020 Form 10 ks and fiscal 2021 Form 10 Q and 8 ks on file with the SEC.

Operator

Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Barbara Rentler, Chief Executive Officer.

Speaker 1

Good afternoon. Joining me on our call today are Michael Hartshorn, Group President, Chief Operating Officer and Connie Kao, Group Vice President, Investor Relations. We'll begin our call today with a review of our Q2 performance, followed by our outlook for the Q3 fiscal year. Afterwards, we'll be happy to respond to any questions you may have. As noted in today's press release, we are Pleased that both 2nd quarter sales and earnings substantially exceeded our expectations.

Speaker 1

Sales benefited from customers' positive response to our broad assortment of great bargains. In addition, our results were bolstered by a number of external factors, including ongoing government stimulus, increasing vaccination rates and diminishing COVID restrictions. Earnings per share for the 13 weeks ended July 31, 2021 grew 22% to 1.39 on net income of $494,000,000 This compares to $1.14 per share on net earnings of $413,000,000 for the 13 weeks ended August 3, 2019. Total sales for the quarter rose 21 percent to $4,800,000,000 with comparable store sales up a robust 15%. For the 1st 6 months, earnings per share were $2.73 On net earnings of $971,000,000 up from $2.29 per share on net income of $834,000,000 for the same period in 2019.

Speaker 1

Sales for the first half of twenty twenty one rose 20% to $9,300,000,000 with comparable store sales up 14%. For the Q2, Ross' sales trends across merchandise areas and regions were fairly broad based with Children's and the Midwest performing the best. Additionally, dd's discount trends remained robust during the period as both sales and operating profit gains significantly exceeded our expectations. Atquarterend, Total consolidated inventories were down 5%, while average selling store inventories were up 3% versus 2019. Packaway levels ended at 30% of the total compared to 43% For the same period in 2019, as we used a substantial amount of Packaway merchandise to support ahead of plant sales.

Speaker 1

In addition, there were receipt delays due to supply chain congestion. Turning to store growth, We now expect to open approximately 65 total locations this year, comprised of about 45 Ross and 20 dd's discounts. As usual, these numbers do not reflect our plans to close or relocate about 10 stores. As mentioned in last quarter's call, in 2022, we expect to return to our normal annual opening program of approximately 100 new stores. Now, Michael Hawthorne will provide further details on our 2nd quarter results, 3rd quarter guidance and updated outlook for the year.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Barbara. As we previously stated, comparable store sales increased 15% in the quarter, mainly driven by a larger average basket with traffic up slightly versus 2019. Operating margin was well above plan and up versus 2019 at 14.1%. Cost of goods sold decreased by 45 basis points in the quarter. Merchandise margin and occupancy improved by 80 basis points each, while buying costs declined by 10 basis points.

Speaker 2

Partially offsetting these items were higher distribution expenses, which grew 40 basis points primarily from wage increases, While worsening industry wide supply chain congestion drove higher freight costs of 85 basis points. SG and A for the period rose 5 basis points as leverage from strong sales gains was offset by COVID For the period were approximately 45 basis points, the vast majority of which impacted SG and A. During the quarter, we repurchased 1,400,000 shares of common stock for a total purchase price of $176,000,000 We remain on track to buy back a total of $650,000,000 in stock for the year. Now let's discuss our Q3 guidance. As a reminder, our projections compared to the same period in 2019.

Speaker 2

Looking ahead, there remains much uncertainty on the sustainability of the positive external factors that benefited our first GAAP results as well as the potential risks we could face from the spread of COVID variance and worsening industry wide supply chain congestion. As a result, we are forecasting comparable store sales to be up 5% to 7% for the Q3 with earnings per share projected to be in the range of 0.61 is $0.69 The operating statement assumptions that support our Q3 guidance include the following. Total sales are projected to grow 9% to 12%. We expect operating margins to be 7.3% to 7.9%. This forecast reflects significant escalation of freight costs as well as higher distribution expenses.

Speaker 2

In addition, ongoing COVID related costs are projected to negatively impact EBIT margin by approximately 45 basis points in the period. We plan to open 28 stores during the Q3 consisting of 18 ROTH and 10 CDs discounts. Net interest expense is estimated to be about $19,000,000 Our tax rate is expected to be approximately 24% to 25% and weighted average diluted shares outstanding are projected to be about $354,000,000 Based on our first half results and third quarter guidance, we now project Full year comparable store sales gain of 10% to 11% and earnings per share to be in the range of $4.20 to $4.38 compared to $4.60 in 2019. Now I'll turn the call back to Barbara for closing comments.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Michael. While we're pleased by the better than expected results we reported today, as Michael noted, there's a high level of uncertainty on a number of external factors and how they may affect our business over the balance of the year. That said, we believe we are well positioned as a value And remain confident in our ability to continue to deliver great branded bargains. Moving forward, we remain optimistic about our prospects Moreover, the significant number of retail closures and bankruptcies in recent years further enhances our ability to gain additional market share in the future. At this point, we'd like to open up the call and respond to any questions you might have.

Operator

Your first question is from the line of Lorraine Hutchinson from Bank of America. Your line is open.

Speaker 3

Thanks. Good afternoon. It's quite a different tone with The 2Q beat versus the 3Q guidance. I was just curious how much of these sales and margin pressures are you seeing today First is how much you're baking in just in case things get worse?

Speaker 2

Kimberly, it's Michael. On the sales front, The guidance is really based on the high level of uncertainty and risk that could happen in the 3rd Q4 and it's really based on the risk that the external factors that benefited the first half, How sustainable those are? And then also with the Delta variant and supply chain congestion, what other risks exist? That said, we hope to do better than the guidance as we have here today thus far.

Operator

Your next question is from Mark Altschwager from Baird. Your line is open.

Speaker 4

Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. So, a lot of focus out there on kind of the cost side of the current kind of supply chain backdrop. Just hoping you could speak to some of the opportunities this is creating or expected to create in the months and quarters ahead just with canceled orders, late deliveries, Inventory trapped in nodes throughout the system. Just how do you see this really playing out from an inventory availability standpoint in the coming quarters?

Speaker 4

Thank

Speaker 1

you. Well, listen, obviously, the supply chain congestion is causing all kinds of We expect those actually to worsen as the year goes on. So at some point in time, Those goods will back up and we will see those as potentially an opportunity either for Packaway or to Flow depending upon business or what the types So at this moment, you would think that that would happen probably either late in the year or the beginning of next year if I had to pick a timeframe.

Operator

Your next question is from the line of Paul LeWise from Citigroup. Your line is open.

Speaker 5

Hey, thanks guys. Can you maybe talk about performance by state? Curious, your 3 big How different the performance was in the 2nd quarter? And also curious if there are any states in particular Where you might be seeing some sort of change in trend in the Q3 to date that's kind of guiding how you Are thinking about comps in 3Q. And I was also curious if you could just talk about home versus apparel performance in the quarter?

Speaker 5

Thanks.

Speaker 2

Paul, on the regional performance, so Texas, Florida, California, they make up about 50% of our sales, what we saw during the quarter. Texas and California were relatively in line with the chain. Florida, which Trailed in the Q1 saw a significant improvement as tourism increased, Though still a bit below the chain in the Q2 and we wouldn't comment on current quarter trends at

Speaker 1

And home versus apparel, home continues to be one of our top performing merchandise areas, similar to trends that we've seen throughout the entire pandemic. Apparel, however, continued to accelerate From Q1 to Q2. So I think what we're seeing in apparel is pre COVID there was already a shift towards casual wear And then Activewear and what's happening now is that more traditional sportswear classifications have also improved. So that's starting to make to build the sales from 1 quarter to the other.

Speaker 5

Barbara, are you seeing the supply chain disruption impact Certain categories more than others, anything you can share there?

Speaker 1

Look, overall, there's plenty of supply. It's not consistent to your point across merchandise departments. But in reality, what's happening is that Merchandise deliveries are sliding. So it could slide 2 weeks, 30 days, they're sliding. And so what the merchants are really doing They are constantly flexing based off of what they're seeing in the market, the availability and they're chasing into classifications that they need.

Speaker 1

It's a little bit of a moving target, but overall, there's plenty of supply.

Speaker 5

Okay. Thank you. Good

Operator

Your next Question is from the line of Kimberly Greenberger from Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Okay, great. Thank you. I wanted to hear if you've given any further thought to potentially some And price actions just to help absorb some of the higher costs, even if it's just a little bit here or there or sort of Surgically done based on what comparison prices you're seeing in the marketplace. I just wanted to see if you had Thought about that any differently as compared to your comments back in May. And then could I just get a clarification on the Full year 10% to 11% comp guidance, and what does that embed for the Q4?

Speaker 6

Thank you so much.

Speaker 1

Okay. In terms of pricing, Kimberly, we still strongly believe That price value is critical to our customers. So as you know, we've over the years talked about how the merchants comp shop regularly And really they really understand that our target shopper is really price savvy. So if she's not getting the best deal out there, She knows it. The higher prices at traditional retailers could increase the pricing gap that we offer and strengthen the values that we provide to our shoppers and quite frankly the merchants are constantly making those price value assessments of their assortments all the time.

Speaker 1

They're prioritizing as we'll always prioritize really having sharply priced assortments for our entire store. At this point, I wouldn't talk anything more about it for competitive reasons, but the one comment that I would say is We won't be the leader in terms of raising prices. The merchants will do their job and they'll assess it and they'll price it the way they see it.

Speaker 2

Kimberly, on comp guidance, 4th the Q4 looks very similar to Q3 at the 5

Speaker 1

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question is from Chuck Grom from Gordon Haskett. Your line is open.

Speaker 7

Hey, thank you very much. Good quarter. Just wondering if you guys could speak to the magnitude of the DC and freight costs that you're anticipating in the 3rd quarter. It looks like Over the past couple of quarters, it's been about 100 basis points to 125 basis point drag. Just wondering if you could speak to how big of a drag you're expecting here in this quarter?

Speaker 7

Thank you.

Speaker 2

We didn't give specific guidance. In the second quarter, obviously, DCs were 40 basis points Of drag and freight was 85 basis points. So we would expect both the DCs And the freight costs to worsen in the back half, some of that's driven by the leverage on comp, but we would expect We've raised wages further in the DCs and we're seeing specifically ocean freight costs significantly escalate in the back half. So those expectations for worsening are built into the guidance that we get.

Operator

Your next question is from the line of Matthew Boss from JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Speaker 7

Great. Thanks and congrats on a nice quarter. So Barbara, any early thoughts on overall back to school trends, maybe what you've Seeing so far in August in some of the states that have gone back earlier. And then, Michael, on gross margin, Have you embedded any change in the external promotional or pricing backdrop for the Q3 relative to what we saw in the front half of the year Just in your merchandise margin outlook.

Speaker 1

So Matt, the back to school trends, Look, we've been pleased with our younger businesses' performances for a while and so that obviously bodes well for back to school. In terms of classifications, I would say the customer is still buying wear now, but has started to make that conversion to go forward in a more Traditional back to school fashion that we might have seen from a product perspective in, let's say, 2019. But we feel good about those businesses because obviously our younger businesses are doing well. Therefore, back to school we feel pretty good about.

Speaker 2

And Matt on margin, obviously, we have built in what we can see today with our current on order. I think our big opportunity as it was In the Q2 is if we can exceed these sales plans there should be a benefit

Operator

Your next question is from Janine Stichter from Jefferies. Your line is open.

Speaker 1

Hi, thanks for taking my I want to ask about the COVID costs, if you had any thoughts about the timeline for potentially starting to moderate the expense you're putting into the cleaning and sanitation aspects in the stores? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Sure. I think that's changed over time. Obviously, if you would have asked me that 2 months ago, it would have been sooner than later. But right now, we have the cleaning aspects built in Throughout the rest of the year, which we think is appropriate given the variance spread.

Speaker 1

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question is from Michael Binetti from Credit Suisse. Your line is open.

Speaker 8

Hey guys, thanks for taking our questions here. Michael, I'm curious what you think are the biggest opportunities to get the business if we try

Speaker 2

to look beyond a lot

Speaker 8

of the noise of the To get the business back to that kind of 14% plus operating margin that you guys saw a few years back, It sounds like you I guess when you look at the pricing commentary in the Softlines group, you seem to think that There's no real urgency here to move towards it. So maybe that implies you're thinking that some of these costs we're seeing are quite transitory. Do you within that if that's right, what do you think are the best ways for this business to get back to that 14 plus operating margin

Speaker 9

in the past from here.

Speaker 2

Sure, Michael. As you mentioned, obviously, we have transitory costs in the business right now, whether it's COVID. At some point, there'll be some equilibrium in the freight world, especially with ocean freight that we Expect to be an opportunity going forward. And then I would say, the return to 2019 margin levels will be highly dependent on Strong sales performance over time. And given we're in a very vibrant sector of retail, There's market share up for grab with store closures and bankruptcies and the customer who's focused on value And convenience, we feel good about our opportunities.

Speaker 2

Now that is not to say that we don't have a lot of work going on in the business to find to be more efficient to offset some of these costs, but I think it's dependent on how long some of this inflation lasts and then Certainly on top line growth.

Speaker 5

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question is from John Kerman from Cowen. Your line is open.

Speaker 10

Excellent. Thanks for taking my questions. Just curious on the quantification of Freight and distribution headwinds into next year, is this the impact that you're Guiding to you in the back half of the year, is that ballpark is how we should think about it for the first half of next year?

Speaker 2

I wouldn't comment on next year at this point. In the DCs, the wages that we've made are permanent. And that said, we do have Productivity initiatives that will build into our budgets and plans for next year. On the freight costs, I'd say it's hard to say at this point. If I gave you my view at this point, I think some of the ocean and congestion We'll bleed into the 1st part of next year.

Speaker 10

Got it. One quick follow-up. Just as we stay on the theme of supply chain here, Are you concerned at all about deliveries into holiday in early part of next year given some of the things we're seeing at ports, etcetera?

Speaker 1

Well, I think we all know there's supply chain problems and it's backed up and all the issues with COVID overseas, which kind of Made all of the not all, but a large majority of goods coming out of China slide. I think the issues are real And I think they'll continue for a while. And so what we have to do is really make sure that we're paying attention to what it is and that the merchants Our adjusting and flexing base of what they're seeing and what's happening around them. I mean the majority of our business is closeouts. So a lot of these things are a timing issue of how goods will slide, what goods might be late that might be available for us Dubai and season, it's kind of like a moving target.

Speaker 1

I think the challenge as you go into Q1 is that Chinese New Year It is a couple of weeks earlier. So those two things are going to collide, I think, a little bit in terms of deliveries and the kind of goods that have to get out of China in particular. So, I think the answer is we're going to watch it, we're going to adjust as we go and We're in a flexible business model, so as long as we can offer a treasure hunt and a broad assortment, that's what we're going to do.

Speaker 2

Excellent. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question is from Adrienne Rhee from Barclays. Your line is open.

Speaker 1

Thank you very much.

Operator

Barbara, I was wondering if you

Speaker 11

had seen any changes in basket or ATV this quarter versus Q1? And then toward the end of the quarter, were you seeing any impact in particularly Texas and Florida of maybe the Delta variant on late July trends? I know that for a quarter, They seem to be fine, but any trailing off at the end of the quarter? Thank you very much.

Speaker 2

Adrian, on the Components of comp, it was mainly driven by the size of the basket. Traffic was up Slightly. And the basket was driven AUR was up slightly, but it was basically driven by Units per transaction and that was a consistent trend with comp throughout the quarter. We wouldn't say specifically the Sequential trend other than to say, it was fairly robust throughout the quarter. May was slightly higher than the other month In terms of absolute comp.

Speaker 11

Thank you very much and best of luck. Congrats.

Operator

Your next question is from the line of Marni Shapiro from Retail Tracker. Your line is open.

Speaker 3

Hey, guys. Congrats on a great quarter. Could you I just want to clarify one thing, Michael, that you said. You said Texas, California and Florida made up What percent of your sales you guys used to talk about this in the past. I just want to clarify the number that I heard.

Speaker 2

It's about 50% of our business. That's what

Speaker 3

I thought. Can we talk just a little bit about marketing? I know it's not a big ambitious push for you guys like it is for other retailers. So I'm curious just Through COVID coming into this year, where was your marketing spend? Has it ticked up through this year as the stores have all now for the most part been opened.

Speaker 3

And have you been spending against that or has demand been so strong that you haven't Ticked up the marketing and how should we think about it in the back half of the year? If you could just talk a little bit about that?

Speaker 2

In terms of marketing for competitive reasons, we wouldn't Provide the details there, Marni, but we have made strategic investments. We made channel shifts, and we have used Put more money into places like digital versus broadcast. So we have made Some shifts during COVID and we'll continue to find what works best for us going forward.

Speaker 3

Has it picked up Now that the stores are open compared to a year ago, when, say, the first half of the year for sure, stores are

Speaker 2

No doubt. Yes, Marni. No doubt about it. We when the stores were closed, we obviously took it as an opportunity to not spend when the stores were closed. So it certainly has picked up versus last year.

Speaker 3

That's all rolled back in here. Okay. And it should be about your usual levels then from here out with all the stores opened?

Speaker 2

Correct.

Speaker 3

Okay, fantastic. Thank you. Best of luck with the rest

Speaker 1

of all season. Thank you. Thanks, Anthony.

Operator

Your next question is from Laura Champine from Loop Capital. Your line is open.

Speaker 9

Thanks for taking my question. Still trying to get my head around the Significant decline, almost 50% sequentially in EBIT margins that you're sort of looking to in Q3. I certainly heard the 45 basis point COVID costs, but are you expecting a big reversal in merchandise margin or what are some of the assumptions embedded within that EBIT margin assumption?

Speaker 2

On the EBIT margin in between Q2 and Q3 for instance, obviously the 5% to 7% comp It's lower than our year to date performance at 15% or 15% in the second quarter. So that drives A significant portion of it. And then as I mentioned, ocean freight costs, where we've embedded The assumption that that will significantly escalate over Q2 and then we expect higher wages in the DC to drive a bit more delevers than we had year to date.

Speaker 9

Got it. Do you have can you give me total logistics costs as a percentage of sales sort of Normally and where it's tracking now?

Speaker 2

That's not something we provide, Laura.

Speaker 10

Got it.

Speaker 2

Thank you. The best guidance I can give you at this point is, Again, freight was 85 basis points for us in the 2nd quarter and we've embedded significantly Escalation from that and then on the DCs, as I mentioned, it was 40 basis points and we expect additional deleverage because of higher wages.

Speaker 1

Got it.

Operator

Your next question is from Dana Telsey from Telsey Advisory. Your line is open.

Speaker 12

Good afternoon. It seems like for a couple of quarters in a row now, Didi's has had terrific performance. Anything to note there and any changes to their plans in terms of what's driving that or is it the child tax credits and stimulus? And then secondly, just on takeaway, I think it's 30% this quarter. I think it was 34% in the Q1.

Speaker 12

How do you how are you thinking about Packaway for the balance of the year and the rate it would be at? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Sure, Dana. On dd's, as we mentioned, dd's continue to have a robust sales Trending like Ross, EBIT margin improvement. I'd say relative to Ross, it's been fairly consistent throughout the pandemic. Obviously, the external stimulus has impacted the Didi's customer, but also helped the RAS customer as well. The one thing they have in common Though, is that that customer is very focused on value and They've been attracted to what we've had in the stores.

Speaker 2

So no changes that I would note In the Q2. On inventory levels, as you mentioned, Packaway was at 30% of our total inventory. With the head of plant sales, we obviously use some of that inventory to fuel some of the sales growth. It was also impacted by receipts, delayed receipts. So within the inventory number, we have a higher level In transit than we had historically.

Speaker 2

And then the return, we would expect to return to historical levels over time, But that's going to be somewhat dependent on how we perform on the top line and whether we beat the plan and then also what supply chain congestion looks like at the end of the year.

Operator

Your next question is from Simeon Siegel from BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Speaker 13

Hi, this is Dick Clinchon on for Simeon. I'm just wondering if we could get some color potentially on where you're seeing the most opportunity to Kind of capture that share, if that's with new customers or with expanding the current customer wallet within the

Speaker 2

Yes, I would say what we've seen during the pandemic is we've seen a younger customer, not part of that early on in the pandemic was driven by the older customer with restrictions and Hesitancy to shop, as we've moved along, we've seen in the customers that that older shopper is actually returning Back to the store. So I think we have an opportunity across our customer base To the extent that we can provide them the bargains that they've come to expect.

Speaker 13

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question is from Jay Sole from UBS. Your line is open.

Speaker 4

Great. Thank you. Michael, is it possible to quantify for us The magnitude of the worsening of the inflationary pressures that you called out between Q2 and Q3?

Speaker 2

Yes, I would only just point to the overall EBIT margin. It's a significant The escalation right now, the 7.3 to 7.9 is 4.50 to 5.10 versus 2019 Of deleverage. So the main drivers out of that are obviously The comp difference between Q2 and Q3, the higher ocean freight is a significant portion of that. And then as I mentioned, the Higher distribution costs. I'd say the largest single deleverage is coming from Oceanfront.

Operator

Our last question is from Roxanne Meyer from MKM Partners. Your line is open.

Speaker 3

Great. Thanks and congratulations on a solid 2Q. My question is on the merchandise margin. You delivered a very robust Gain there on top of a sizable gain in the Q1 and really on top of a significant increase in merch margin last year. Where is that coming from?

Speaker 3

Is that being helped by just utilizing Packaway? And How should we think about merchandise margin going forward?

Speaker 2

Yes. In the quarter, really the upside versus our original expectations and again versus Last year, we've been able to operate in a with inventory very close to need. We've operated with lower And stores, we've been able to chase the business, and That has driven faster turns and lower markdowns. What we've done throughout the pandemic is tried to operate very close to need. And we think that we can do that not only during the pandemic, but post pandemic, which will benefit margins in the future.

Speaker 2

But that's the lower markdowns in faster terms was the main driver of the margin improvement in the Q2.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call over to Barbara Retler for her closing remarks.

Speaker 1

Thank you for joining us today and for your interest in Ross Stores.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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