Regency Centers Q2 2021 Earnings Call Transcript

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August 6, 2021

There are 13 speakers on the call.

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to Regency Centers Corporation Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Christy McElroy.

Operator

Thank you. You may begin.

Speaker 1

Good morning, and welcome to Regency Center's 2nd quarter 2021 earnings conference call. Joining me today are Lisa Palmer, President and Chief Executive Officer Mike Mas, Chief Financial Officer Jim Thompson, Chief Operating Officer and Chris Leavitt, SVP and Treasurer. As a reminder, today's discussion may contain forward looking statements about the company's views of future business and financial performance, including forward earnings guidance and future market conditions. These are based on management's current beliefs and expectations and are subject to various risks and uncertainties. It is possible that actual results may differ materially from those suggested by the forward looking statements we may make.

Speaker 1

Factors and risks that could Actual results to differ materially from these statements may be included in our presentation today and are described in more detail in our filings with the SEC, specifically in our most recent Form 10 ks and 10 Q filings. In our discussion today, we will also reference certain non GAAP financial measures. The comparable GAAP financial measures are included in this quarter's Earnings materials, which are posted on our Investor Relations website. Please note that we have also posted a presentation on our website with additional information, including additional disclosures related to forward earnings guidance and the impact of COVID-nineteen on the company's business. Lisa?

Speaker 2

Thank you, Christy. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us this morning. We are pleased to report another quarter of results reflecting strong progress toward recovery. The tide has continued to rise following the removal of most capacity restrictions across the country. Our portfolio foot traffic is now back to at least 100% of pre COVID levels in nearly all of our markets.

Speaker 2

And we've made meaningful progress on rent collections. Retailer demand is healthy. This is reflected in our strong leasing activity, and we're seeing fewer tenant failures and therefore lower move out activity than we expected. We acknowledge that we are not completely out of the woods yet. We are all keenly aware of rising virus cases In many cities across the country, as we experience another wave of the pandemic, new mask and vaccine restrictions are emerging, with the risk of perhaps even the return of capacity restrictions in some markets.

Speaker 2

But with the knowledge and experience that we And our tenants have gained over the last year and a half. We feel good about where we stand long term and our ability to weather Additional storms. And importantly, if we do see new restrictions, we believe that that impact will be short term. Our industry and specifically Regency's portfolio Have proven its resiliency and this is most evident in the meaningful improvement in our West Coast markets in recent months As all of our tenants were finally allowed to fully operate as the market opened up. I've said this before and I'll say it again, the best Shopping center assets will continue to thrive in the post pandemic world.

Speaker 2

On last quarter's call, we discussed pivoting to offense. We are confident in our path to recovery and our strong balance sheet and access to low cost capital give us a competitive advantage in developing and acquiring On an earnings and quality accretive basis, we have a really successful track record in that regard. And so with this pivot, We started our multi phased Westbark project in Bethesda, Maryland, and we expanded our existing project in Richmond, Virginia, which I might add is experiencing robust tenant demand. Looking forward, we remain encouraged and excited about additional opportunities in our pipeline. Earlier this week, we also purchased our partner's 80% share in our USAA joint venture, a great opportunity to allocate capital on an accretive basis into high quality assets that we have known and operated for 20 years.

Speaker 2

We raised equity during the quarter through our ATM on a forward basis, Funding this transaction as well as providing additional capacity for future investments. As always, we are active in pursuing and evaluating acquisition opportunities. In today's transaction market, however, we do continue to see even greater competition for deals. There's been meaningful capital formation targeting high quality grocery anchor neighborhood and community centers as the investment market appreciates the demonstrated performance and resiliency of these high quality assets. So as a result and as you would expect, we've seen continued compression in cap rates for these types of assets across all of our target markets.

Speaker 2

Before I turn over to Jim, I'd like to take just a moment to touch on something that's extremely important to Regency and to me. One of the highlights of the Q2 for us was the release of our 2020 Corporate Responsibility Report, which allows us The opportunity each year to showcase our leading ESG practices. We are proud of our accomplishments across all four pillars of our strategy: our people, Our communities, governance and environmental stewardship. So please allow me this opportunity The development and implementation of a more robust diversity, equity and inclusion strategy, a gender pay gap that is now essentially 0, Impressive philanthropic efforts by our team members in what was a really challenging personal environment as well as professional. Increased tenant and community engagement during the pandemic, for which we were recently recognized by ICSC with 3 Maxi Awards Further progress on board diversity and refreshment, the introduction of an ESG metric for executive compensation, The issuance of our first TCFD report on climate change risk and finally, outperformance in our reduction targets for greenhouse gas emissions, Energy Efficiency and Waste Diversion.

Speaker 2

Strong corporate responsibility is a foundation of our company. It's ingrained in our culture And no doubt, it's part of what makes us great. And just as we approach all aspects of our business, we look to continue to improve and evolve our best practices over time. Jim?

Speaker 3

Thanks, Lisa, and good morning, everyone. We remain encouraged by continued improvement in operating trends in our portfolio, including increased foot traffic, higher rent collections and strengthening leasing activity. We took another big step in our recovery during the Q2 as many more operating restrictions were lifted, providing a necessary catalyst to convert many more of our tenants back to rent paying status. While the progress and results are very rewarding, we realize it's not all clear sailing. We continue to monitor the implication of rising COVID But in contrast to earlier periods of the pandemic, vaccines are now widely available.

Speaker 3

Consumers are resuming more normal behaviors, Shopping at stores, eating at restaurants and working out at fitness clubs. As of mid July, nearly all of our 22 markets are now at or above 100 percent of 2019 foot traffic levels. And after nearly a year and a half of operating in this environment, many of our tenants have learned to roll the bunches, demonstrating resiliency and creativity in adapting to an evolving normal. Moving to rent collections, we again saw improvement in all regions With Q2 July collections both at 96% at this point. Our unresolved rent bucket continues to shrink.

Speaker 3

As tenants have been able to get back to fully operating, our teams have been successfully working to get them rent paying again. Our leased and commenced occupancy rates ticked up this quarter, reflecting reduced move outs, but also strong leasing activity, which I'll touch on. But more importantly, our net effective rent paying occupancy, which we've discussed previously, is up over 150 basis points sequentially to north of 88%. We continue to believe this is the best indicator of our recovery progress. We also had another strong leasing quarter, exceeding 2019 levels on both new and renewal leasing as our teams are working tirelessly to get vacant space Backfilled to accommodate the demand we are seeing.

Speaker 3

We are pleased to see great activity across all regions, including the harder hit states out west. Our leasing pipelines look healthy for the remainder of the year with active interest from tenants in categories such as grocery, medical, restaurants, Fitness, pet related uses, off price, health and wellness and some traditional mall retailers like home, Athletic, Eyewear and Cosmetic. Although activity is strong, we are seeing some impact from rising material cost, labor shortages and permitting backlogs at local municipalities, all contributing to continued pressure on rent commencement timing. Our tenants are also experiencing inflationary cost pressures and staffing shortages in the normal course of operating their businesses. But We're hearing when we speak with our tenants that they are generally able to pass on many of these higher costs to consumers, especially in the trade areas that we operate in, reflected in strong sales among many of our grocery and restaurant tenants.

Speaker 3

We saw improvement in rent growth in the 2nd quarter as well as we are making fewer short term pandemic related concessions to bridge our tenants. We continue to push embedded rent steps To maximize revenue and cash NOI growth over the life of the lease and our GAAP rent spreads are back above 10% and closer to our 15% historical average levels. As our leasing activities ramp back up, we also remain focused on maintaining a prudent level of CapEx spend. Our positive momentum in leasing activity also extends to our in process Ground up development and redevelopment projects. At our Crossing Clarendon redevelopment in Arlington, Virginia, we're very I'm excited to announce that we just signed a new lease with Lifetime.

Speaker 3

This premier health and wellness club with a co working component We'll take over 100,000 square feet of the 4 story loft building, reducing lease up risk by bringing the project over 90% leased from 3% a quarter ago and providing an earlier than expected rent commencement date. At The Avid in Cambridge, Massachusetts, we have 4 signed leases and we've seen significant increase in office market tours. Now the restrictions have lifted, In the Q2, we started Phase 1 of our mixed use Westbark project in Bethesda, Maryland. The first phase of this project will include a new Giant anchored 120,000 square foot podium style retail building with structured parking and about 100 senior living units being In partnership with a best in class senior housing developer operator. Regency's net project costs for this phase will be about $37,000,000 net of land sale proceeds.

Speaker 3

We are seeing some modest impacts from higher construction material and labor costs, But our underwriting had cost escalations built in for that, and thus far, the impacts to our projections have been minimal. In summary, we have a lot of good things happening. We're very encouraged by the trends we're seeing and the progress we've made due in large part to the hard work of our management, Leasing and development teams in the field. Mike?

Speaker 4

Thanks, Jim. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. I'll begin by addressing 2nd quarter results and then walk through the changes in our full year guidance as well as the moving parts of the JV portfolio transaction and capital raise. 2nd quarter NAREIT FFO was $0.99 per share, helped by several items. Uncollectible lease income was a positive $7,000,000 in the quarter As reserves on current period billings of approximately $5,000,000 were more than offset by the collection of 2020 reserved revenues Associated with cash basis 10ths of close to $12,000,000 You can see this breakout of our uncollectible lease income on our COVID disclosure Page 33 As you may recall, our previous full year guidance range assumed about $30,000,000 Collection of 2020 reserves during 2021, well, we have already exceeded that as of quarter end.

Speaker 4

We also benefited from a higher recovery rate in the 2nd quarter following a better than anticipated outcome from our annual reconciliation process. We do expect our recovery rate to revert back to more normal levels going forward. Most importantly, We are seeing higher than expected collection rates on our cash basis tenants of 86% in the 2nd quarter. That's up from 78% in the first. During the quarter, we raised close to $150,000,000 of common equity through our ATM program on a forward basis at an average price of about $64.50 per share.

Speaker 4

We currently plan to settle in the Q3 roughly $85,000,000 to fund the equity component of our recently completed USAA JV buyout and view the balance of the capital raise as capacity for future funding of investment opportunities. We can settle the remaining shares at any time before June of 2022. The buyout of our JV partners 80% interest in the portfolio closed effective August 1. As Lisa mentioned, This was a unique opportunity to invest in high quality assets on a leverage neutral and earnings accretive basis. The cap rate was about 5.5%.

Speaker 4

In addition to the partial settlement of the Forward ATM, funding for the transaction includes our assumption of the partner share of mortgage debt and $13,000,000 of promote income received upon liquidation of the JV. Turning to guidance, We point you to the detail in our earnings slide deck posted to our website. We've previously discussed the larger needle movers to our earnings, and they certainly continue to move in the right direction, resulting in another healthy increase to our full year expectations. The most meaningful change that we made was to our same property NOI forecast, up 7 25 basis points at the midpoint, and we reconcile the components of these changes in our slide deck. Of this change, 2 25 basis points is attributable to an increase in our forecast for the collection of rent previously reserved in 2020.

Speaker 4

Our forecast for the year is now $45,000,000 up from $30,000,000 previously. Of the $45,000,000 as I mentioned earlier, we have recognized about $32,000,000 through quarter end and have collected another $3,000,000 in July. The other 500 basis points of the guidance increase is driven by fundamental current year improvement, supported by higher collection rates from cash basis tenants and lower move out activity, reflecting the progress we experienced through the Q2 and raised expectations for the balance of the year. Please also note that we've added the $13,000,000 promote income tied to the JV portfolio transaction to our NAREIT FFO forecast, which will be recognized in the Q3. We will not include this one time transactional income in our core operating earnings metric.

Speaker 4

While we have not yet moved any tenants back to accrual basis accounting from cash basis, we are continuing with our evaluation and expect a subset of tenants that have remained current on rent to qualify in the second half of this year. While conversions may have a positive impact on Straight line rent and NAREIT FFO, we have not yet included any of this movement into our revised guidance range. From a balance sheet perspective, we remain on very solid footing. As our free cash flows continue to grow meaningfully, benefiting from a low payout ratio Without having reduced our dividend, our leverage continues on a visible path back to pre pandemic levels. We have cash on hand, Full revolver capacity, no unsecured debt maturities until 2024 and balance sheet capacity remaining from our forward equity raise to be opportunistic.

Speaker 4

As we have discussed previously, we continue to expect our recovery back to 2019 NOI levels by the end of next year on an annualized basis, primarily due to the time it takes for rent to commence on backfilling vacant space. So with every dollar of reserved rent that we are able to recover And with every tenant, we can convert back to rent paying rather than absorb the vacancy, the shallower the trough and the higher the level from which we will continue to grow. With that, we look forward to taking your questions.

Operator

At this time, we'll be conducting a question and answer session. One moment please while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from Katy McConnell with Citi. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 5

Great. Thank you. So first, just wondering if you can provide some more background on how the USAA Say a transaction came about and then how you're thinking about acquisition opportunities going forward?

Speaker 4

Hey, Katie. This is Mike. I'll start and I think Lisa will jump in to talk about forward opportunities. The transaction was presented itself, I mean, obviously not too long ago. USAA is really a real estate advisor.

Speaker 4

They're representing So I think what they and to give you a little bit of history, that JV was formed in 2,009. So if you think about that buying opportunity, this was a really good opportunity for that consortium to crystallize a return. And we were able to take advantage of that. And as with any JV, whether single asset or portfolio, The partner is likely your best first option as a buyer and we were there ready for that. We were very Happy to buy in these properties.

Speaker 4

We've owned them and operated them for 20 years now, know them extraordinarily well. They fit in very nicely with the portfolio. I'd characterize them as very consistent with our high quality assets, and very happy to move forward with that transaction.

Speaker 2

And just in thinking about forward, and I think I'll take you back 3 months, when we talked about turning the corner, That's really when we really had the confidence and we talked about the pivot to offense, that we had a much clearer path to continued improvement And we continue to see that, which is great. And with that and free cash flow in excess of $100,000,000 the really strong balance sheet that we have, Access to low cost other low cost capital, just as I said in my prepared remarks, we have a really successful track record And not just acquiring KA, but also developing. So using that access to capital and that low cost capital is a competitive advantage to continue To have accretive investments going forward and we're always looking.

Speaker 5

Great. And then maybe on the development side, now that you've started the And phase of Cary Towne and the Westgard project, can you comment on how pre leasing is going so far for the retail components? And then for Westgard, where you stand on future phases for resi as far as securing partners?

Speaker 3

Yes, Kate, it's Jim. On Cary Town, I'll take that one first. We've had really good activity and a couple of executed leases, some names you may know, Torchy's Taco out of Texas Has migrated to North Carolina and opening days in one of our other centers in that marketplace had them 100 people deep. So North Carolina people like tacos as much as they like barbecues, what it appears. Also, we've got Virginia ABC Liquors and Tequita deal prospects, probably the most iconic high end jeweler in the Richmond marketplace Is in dialogue with us as well as the Lulu limits.

Speaker 3

That gives you a flavor of the type of tenants we're talking to there. As far as Westbark, we're very, very early obviously. We've just started construction. We've got a ways to go. But we've had some good early dialogue with some tenants that have expressed interest, But we feel very confident that product is going to be very well received in the marketplace.

Speaker 3

As to the partners, we have continued dialogue with some folks that we've been engaged with for the last 2 years, and we're working towards Finalizing agreements at this point on Phase 2.

Speaker 5

Okay, great. Thanks, everyone.

Speaker 6

Thanks, Katie.

Operator

Our next question is from Derek Johnson with Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 7

Hi, everyone. Thank you. So how have conversations gone with key political leaders in your markets, especially the West, given your I mean, I'm sure you guys have had them. Do you get a sense that they have learned from the shutdowns last year and are perhaps more comfortable with Pandemic related spikes, anything you could share would be helpful.

Speaker 2

Yes, I don't know that I can Speak to what political leaders may or may not do because that could change even regardless of what they say, I think, but just the confidence in What we have seen in terms of when markets are open and how our tenants, our retailers, our service providers Are still operating safely even when there were restrictions, when there were, more protocols, if you will, but I do believe that that has given the confidence to the tenants who have really big voices in their local communities as well speaking To the local leaders and the political leaders, it's not just the shopping center owners that are speaking, it's their real that own businesses, operate businesses and live in the communities that have the loud voices. And I think that's what they're really hearing. So we do have confidence that And I mentioned this in my prepared remarks. Even if we do see increased restrictions from Masking or vaccine restrictions or even potentially some new capacity restrictions, the better operators have Learned, they've adapted, and we believe that we're going to continue to see improvement as we go forward.

Speaker 7

Thank you. Thank you for that, Lisa. And can we just, Mike, maybe run through the reserve collection assumption embedded in guidance a little bit? I believe you collected $32,000,000 versus $30,000,000 we were previously expecting year to date and then the positive change to $45,000,000 in recoveries, throughout the second half. It indicates a run rate of around $6,500,000 per quarter in the second half.

Speaker 7

Should we anticipate a higher collection rate in 3Q for modeling versus 4Q? Or should we kind of just Balance it out in the second half of the year and clearly it seems like there's an opportunity to We surpass the $45,000,000 level. Any color is welcome. Thank you.

Speaker 4

Yes. I appreciate it, Derek. And I'm going to do the best I can, but it's Very difficult to predict the timing of those collections. And we did offer the $3,000,000 in July. So at least we have that Kind of larger pop that everyone can put into their models.

Speaker 4

But I think beyond that, my advice would be To kind of consider it on a straight line basis as we finished out the year. We do obviously feel confident in that $45,000,000 midpoint number. It can move around within the range. We could collect a little bit more. We may collect a little bit less.

Speaker 4

It is an unpredictable It is a challenging number obviously to get our arms around given the changes we had throughout the year. As I think about the same property range, just to bring it up a little bit, And maybe these bookends will be helpful for everyone. The midpoint of the range is essentially assuming that net effective rent pay and occupancy level, which we We described as about 88% today, just continues to grind higher through the balance of the year. So said another way, Cash basis tenants, we are anticipating a slow northward trajectory on their collection rates. They're at 86% today.

Speaker 4

That's 20% higher than they were coming into the year in January. So we've had a remarkable level of increase there. I said this on last quarter's call, I'll just reiterate it. If you to think about that range, 1% collection rate on our cash basis tenants is worth about $3,000,000 On a full year basis of income, so that can also help us help everyone think about the tolerances in the range. And I think with that book end of the 1% equals $3,000,000 I think with the $45,000,000 of which All but 10 has been accounted for and collected at this point in time.

Speaker 4

I think with those two pieces, we're just trying to be as transparent as possible that will help everyone Think about that full year range that we've offered.

Speaker 7

Thanks, Mike. Very helpful. That's it for me. Sure.

Operator

Our next question is from Craig Schmidt with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 8

Thank you. I know you've been touching on external growth and its acceleration, but with acquisitions, you have the Lower more competitive cap rates, with redevelopments, you have higher construction cost, labor and material. I'm just wondering which of those levers is the most appealing in terms of driving external growth, acquisitions or redevelopment?

Speaker 2

We need an end, Craig, because I'd love to say all of the above. We've always said this very consistently that if you make me choose, clearly, I'm going to choose the one that has the higher returns. And so the best use of our capital is on redevelopment and investing back into assets that we know And we are able to that we've owned and operated for quite some time and get really accretive returns. But with that said, I do like the I like the end And I'd like to be able to say that we can do all. To the extent that we can leverage our platform, our knowledge in the markets and our low cost Capital and add to our portfolio base high quality assets that are accretive to our quality and accretive to earnings that allows us to then Further grow our cash flows and further grow NOI, I'd like

Speaker 8

to do it all. And just looking at the percent leased at Costa Verde at 66%, I assume that retailers are Interested in redevelopmentdevelopments in pursuing those as new location opportunities?

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, Jim can add some color if he'd like, but Costa Verde is an exceptional location and real estate asset. And The fact that we have the ability to add as much value as we're going to add there really speaks to that and validates that. There will be when we do commence the full redevelopment, there already is and will continue to be a tremendous amount of demand for the retail space

Speaker 8

Great. And then one last question. I don't know if it's mix related, but I'm wondering why the new leasing spreads On new leases is flat in 2Q 2021?

Speaker 3

Craig, it did have a little bit to do with mix. We had a heavier than normal mix of shops versus anchors this quarter. But importantly, I think I'd like to stress the trend line is For Spreads, it's really moving in the right direction as are all our operating metrics. Our philosophy on prudent CapEx spend Certainly impacts this metric. And having said that, I'd say our CapEx as a percentage of total NOI Tends to be at the lower end of the peer group, which does allow us to maximize free cash flow.

Speaker 3

As we sit there and look at our business And try to make asset management decisions. We look at total rent and total rent includes obviously these initial spreads, Embedded rent steps, which we continue to be very successful in achieving, growing ex mess recoveries, which we I think do Very well, year in, year out and continue to lease up our space back to historic levels. I think in combination, all those actions are going to result in The larger objective of creating sustainable NOI and earnings growth in the long run.

Speaker 8

Okay. Thanks for that color.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Greg McGinnis with Deutsche Bank.

Speaker 2

Good morning.

Speaker 9

Hey. So you've shown a sequential lease occupancy Growth, accelerating leasing volumes, what are some of the tailwinds and maybe headwinds to tenant retention and demand? And how should we think about the cadence of potential recovery in economic occupancy or the net effect of rent paying occupancy, I guess?

Speaker 4

I'll start with our goalposts, which we did reference on the call, but we continue to see A return or recovery to 2019 levels of net operating income on an annualized basis sometime, I'd say back half To the end of 2022. We're very hopeful, Greg. I mean, we're working hard to pull that forward. But One of the challenges there, if it is a headwind or it's just a threshold issue is, we lost about 200 basis points of occupancy As a result of the pandemic, we need and we are making progress leasing that up, but that does take time and it's pretty visible to see how much time that takes to lease, To build out to commence rent. So that to bring that forward meaningfully is more challenging, but we are working as hard as we can to do that.

Speaker 4

Maybe Jim can talk a little bit about some of the headwinds that he sees from the operator side and in the leasing activity.

Speaker 3

Yes, Greg, before I go on the headwinds, I think I would like to touch back on The activity we're seeing today is very strong across all regions. I think when I look at the pipeline and look forward, It continues to be robust. So I think from a tailwind standpoint, I think the leasing opportunity Is in front of us and we're going to take advantage of it. As Mike indicated, we've got more vacancy than we've had historically. So I think we've got product, We've got demand and we're going to make those two things turn into rent paying occupancy.

Speaker 3

Headwinds obviously are what we've talked about. I think there There's labor issues, there's pricing, supply chain issues. How those shake out? We don't know. I will say today the tenants, the retailers Are dealing with that.

Speaker 3

A lot of them are able to pass through those costs to consumers at this point. So it really feels like things are blowing our way right now. There are headwinds, we're watching them, but they're not stopping progress.

Speaker 2

I think that's the best way to think about it. If you think about we had headwinds were far greater than tailwinds in 2020 And it is flipped and the tailwinds are clearly stronger than any headwinds that we're facing right now.

Speaker 9

Maybe to dig into that a little bit more, and I appreciate the color. So our tenant watch list analysis highlights a Much improved environment compared to the last few years. I'm just curious, what is your view on that? How has your watch list Exposure improved over the last 18 months. And what are you still viewing as maybe some of the higher risk tenants or industries?

Speaker 4

Let me start with the watch list, Greg. I think our view would mirror yours. And as we look back at our watch list over Years and consecutive quarters, it's meaningfully improved much by subtraction, right? So we've had a lot of tenants who have kind of worked through The system and have filed bankruptcy and moved out of our centers and we are finding opportunities to release those spaces. Those that have remained, Many of them have improved their credit quality, whether through operations, where this pandemic may have been a tailwind for certain Necessity based retailers and essential retailers or through access to capital markets, whether privately or publicly, There's been a lot of just improvement from a credit quality perspective there.

Speaker 4

So our view is much like yours, a much different landscape and an improved landscape. Jim, anything on the

Speaker 3

I really you hit it on the head, Mike.

Speaker 1

Anything else, Greg?

Speaker 2

You You may have lost

Speaker 1

him. Let's move on to the next one.

Operator

Our next question comes from Juan Sanabria with BMO Capital Markets, please proceed with your question.

Speaker 6

Hi, good morning. I'm just hoping we could talk a little bit about just market rents and how those have trended for, I guess, both the anchor and small shop space Just generically across your portfolio and whether or not rents are truly in fact rising and if so, You've seen any degradation in maybe inferior space as people look to improve the quality of where they're located and Stronger, getting stronger. But just curious on what the actual market rent growth has been maybe over the last 6 months or relative to 2019?

Speaker 3

Well, I guess I would tell you that from my seat, it appears market rents are really Pretty steady from what we've seen before, pre pandemic. Strong centers attract good retailers And good retailers want to be next to other good retailers. So it's a system we're used to thriving in. We're as I said a minute ago, we've got more space than we've had before and that is generating a lot of interest and activity from retailers who Want to be in our product type. But to answer your question simply, I think market rates Or what we were used to seeing pre pandemic in general.

Speaker 6

Okay, great. And then just On the joint ventures, any other opportunities with existing partners to buy out their interest in Over the next 12 to 18 months, are any funds maturing or things like that where you could have some goalposts that are you can see that you could maybe convert on?

Speaker 4

Hey, Juan. All the ventures are long lived, so there's no finite life to any of them. So there's nothing kind of contractually that would bring Opportunity to the horizon. As we mentioned, this was a unique opportunity with a particular joint venture and a group of owners. That could change for our other JV partners going forward.

Speaker 4

But at this point in time, they are all very well committed to the space. They enjoy their allocation to grocery anchored retail. Their portfolios are performing well, very consistent quality to Regency's overall quality. So we're there and we could be there as a potential buyer as we have with USAA, but it's going to take a willing seller at this We don't have that right now.

Speaker 2

And I think that that's really probably one of the most important points that if they do become a willing seller, We have the capacity and the ability to act.

Speaker 6

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Richard Hill with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question. Hey, you got Ron Camden on for Richard Hill. Congrats on

Speaker 10

a great quarter. Two quick ones. Just on the foot traffic, impressive recovery back to pre COVID levels. Just curious, is there any discernible change in spending patterns? Are people spending more?

Speaker 10

Is it a different demographic space? Just sort of any curious if you've seen anything different on the spending patterns and intentions from now versus pre COVID? Thanks.

Speaker 3

I think initially what we were seeing were bigger fewer baskets, but bigger baskets. So people were As Ed describes, they were probably trying to come less often, but buying equal or greater. I think my impression is that is leveling out to kind of the foot traffic obviously is coming back. So I think the Basket size is likely coming down slightly. But when you look at the sales of grocers and when we listen to all the teams report Quarterly activity, the number of restaurants that across the country were really generating significant Increases above 2019 levels during this summer, it was impressive.

Speaker 3

So it clearly, To me, anyway, indicated that the traffic is coming back and they're not just showing up and walking through the center, they're buying. So we're pretty happy with what we're seeing.

Speaker 10

Great. And then my second question was just going to the guidance change. I think the commentary from the cash basis tense is pretty clear. But just a little bit more, Karl, on the lower move out activity, sort of What did you see in the first half of the year and maybe what are you assuming in the second half and how does that compare to a normalized year? I'm

Speaker 4

going to limit my comments to net effective rent pay and occupancy, Ron. Really, We don't see a better measure for 2021 performance than that. And the reality is because the uncollectible leasing component, So the inverse of our collection rate, that's the biggest needle mover in the numbers. At the same time, we were gratified to see Higher levels of leasing activity and forecasted lower levels of move out. So that's going to speak more to Our belief that we will continue to grow into 2022 and beyond, but from a giving guidance on where we end from a percent lease perspective, I think we're going to limit it to just net effective rent pay and occupancy.

Speaker 4

Today is 88% or so. We think that will continue to grind higher through the balance of the year.

Speaker 10

Got it. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Our next question is from Mike Mueller with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 6

Yes. Your development, redevelopment pipeline is very heavily skewed toward redevelopment. I'm just curious, Is there a shadow pipeline of new opportunities that we could see start off over the next few years?

Speaker 3

Yes, Mike, absolutely. As the world recovers, there is an appetite from the grocery sector for growth. We're certainly in tune with that and working hard to locate sites. Our shadow pipeline is building, In my opinion, nicely. And we're talking to the type of traditionals and grocers that we are historically Used to doing business within our portfolio.

Speaker 3

So yes, we feel pretty good about what we're seeing out there from an activity standpoint.

Speaker 2

And Mike, you've heard us speak to that before, right? Development is not a switch. You don't turn it on and off. And even throughout 2020, while we may have paused Spending, we did not pause advancing the ball on projects we were already working on and the team was working really diligently to ensure that we continue to move those forward. So we do expect that you'll continue to see that shadow pipeline convert to a real in progress pipeline.

Speaker 6

Got it. Okay. Thank

Speaker 11

you.

Operator

One moment please while we poll for questions. Our next question comes from Linda Tsai With Jefferies, please proceed with your question.

Speaker 11

Hi, good afternoon. Given consolidation in the shopping center space, Does having 2 larger peers in the space change the competitive landscape, like maybe in terms of acquisitions or conversations with tenants from a leasing standpoint?

Speaker 2

I'll hit from the competition from acquisitions and I'll let Jim touch on leasing. I don't believe that it does. And the acquisition landscape has always been competitive Regardless of the size of those competitors, I mean, there are times depending upon which market that you're that we're looking in, We could be going up against some of our larger public peers or we can certainly be going up against smaller And then also private capital as well. The competition is really coming and the capital for investing in High quality grocery anchored shopping centers is really coming from many sources, small, large, private, public And from a leasing standpoint

Speaker 3

From a leasing standpoint, I The quality

Speaker 2

of the asset. The quality of

Speaker 3

the asset really does get down to the individual asset. And So I don't think the competitive set changes quite frankly from an owner's perspective.

Speaker 11

Thanks. And then, Mike, relative to your comments about cash basis going back to accrual potentially benefiting the second half of 21, but not being factored in estimates in your forecast. What's the best way to think about the magnitude of the potential benefit? Is it like a couple of pennies or a Far greater slug like the benefit cash basis tenants helping 2Q?

Speaker 4

Linda, I appreciate the question, believe me. And It's unfortunate that we're in this position of the accounting requirements and it is providing volatility and potential for volatility And our FFO guidance and forward looking. But I can't it's equally hard for me to give you an estimate there. The best we can do Be as transparent as possible, which includes really 2 things. 1, it is likely that some tenants will flip back to accrual accounting this year.

Speaker 4

And as I talked about last quarter and then this, there's about 13% of our ABR that's current on rent That is currently classified as cash basis tenants. So that would be an indicator of how large that potential Population could be, and I'm not saying that all of those will flip in because we are setting pretty high thresholds and standards before we will convert a tenant from cash basis to accrual. And then lastly, let me just add, this is why we continue to report on and use core operating earnings as an earnings metric. We are eliminating the impact of the non cash. This is how we're running our business.

Speaker 4

This is how we talk about making decisions internally. This is what we talk to our board about. We continue to believe that, that is the best operating metric to keep a finger on the pulse of our success.

Speaker 11

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from Wes Golladay with Baird. Please

Speaker 12

Hi, everyone. Can you talk about the series you sold this quarter? Did you get credit for the entitlement you had in place? Or was it something you were still entitling?

Speaker 11

Hancock. Hancock.

Speaker 3

Hancock, I'm sorry. Yes. We were going down the path. Early on the Sears building, we determined that The alternative use other than retail was probably higher and better use. So we absolutely did go down the path of entitling for office, And that's the direction we were headed.

Speaker 3

We ended up engaging with an officemedicaluser, which really want to be an owner versus a lessee. So That was the pivot we made. We're looking to transform that asset into the highest and best value we could and we determined That selling to this end user was the best way for us. The good thing is they're still a neighbor. They're going to be generating high daytime pop Traffic force for our soon to be redeveloped HEB expanded store.

Speaker 3

And so it's Very good win win for us. We sold an asset to a great operator and they're going to be a terrific neighbor.

Speaker 12

Got it. Thanks for that. And then you mentioned more capital coming into the space looking at shopping centers. Would you look to do more joint ventures or more with your existing partners On the acquisition front?

Speaker 2

I mean, we've always spoken about our joint ventures. And If joint ventures will serve the purpose of access to capital, which knock on wood, we don't need right now from them Or access to expertise, there could perhaps be some scenario where that's the case, but also that's probably also unlikely. More of the opportunity will come when it's actually access to properties or access to actual opportunities. And so to the extent that a joint venture partner Allows us to have access to an opportunity that we may not otherwise have, then absolutely we would entertain it. And that's how we think about it.

Speaker 2

Thanks

Operator

everyone. We have reached the end of the question and answer session. At this time, I'd like I'll turn the call back over to Lisa Palmer for closing comments.

Speaker 2

Thank you all for Joining us on a Friday, appreciate your time. And I also do want to just give a quick shout out to the Regency team and I thank you for a great quarter and great results and Everyone have a nice weekend.

Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and we thank you for your participation.

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