Autodesk Q4 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

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February 24, 2022

There are 13 speakers on the call.

Operator

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Autodesk 4th Quarter and Full Year Fiscal 2022 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer As a reminder, today's program may be recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today's program, Simon Mays Smith, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 1

Thanks, operator, and good afternoon. Thank you for joining our conference call to discuss the Q4 and full year results of our fiscal 2022. On the line with me are Andrew Anagnost, our CEO and Debbie Clifford, our Chief Financial Officer. Today's conference call is being broadcast live via webcast. In addition, a replay of the call will be available at autodesk.com/investor.

Speaker 1

You can find the earnings press release, Slide presentation and transcript of today's opening commentary on our Investor Relations website following this call. During this call, we may make forward looking statements about our outlook, future results and related assumptions, Acquisitions, products and product capabilities and strategies. These statements reflect our best judgments based on currently known factors. Actual events or results could differ materially. Please refer to our SEC filings, including our most recent Form 10 ks for important risks and other factors, including developments in the COVID-nineteen pandemic and the resulting impact on our business That may cause our actual results to differ from those in our forward looking statements.

Speaker 1

Forward looking statements made during the call are being made as of today. If this call is replayed or reviewed after today, the information presented during the call may not contain current or accurate information. Autodesk disclaims any obligation to update or revise any forward looking statements. During the call, we will quote a number of numerical growth changes as we discuss our financial performance. Unless otherwise noted, Each such reference represents a year on year comparison.

Speaker 1

All non GAAP numbers referenced in today's call are reconciled in our press release or Excel Financials and other supplemental materials available on our Investor Relations website. And now, I will turn the call over to Andrew.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Simon, and welcome everyone to the call. Today, we reported record 4th quarter and full year revenue, Non GAAP operating margins and free cash flow. Our strong results and competitive performance were underpinned by some perennial factors. Our ability to deliver greater value to our customers and partners through consistent investment in our technology, workforce and business model and customer experience. Let me talk briefly about each of these as they are just as important to our future growth as they have been to our growth in the past.

Speaker 2

All of our technology investments, be it in 3 d and BIM, enabling workflows in the cloud, in generative design, in make And in newer verticals like water and construction, all of them connect siloed adjacent workflows in the cloud and lead our customers to new, More efficient and sustainable ways of working. At Autodesk University, we announced we were moving from products to platforms and capabilities and bringing those capabilities to any device anywhere to the cloud. Fusion 360 is the leading edge of this transition And our recent acquisitions of ProdSmart and CIMCO will enable us to further digitize and connect shop floor processes and manufacturing to help build connected factories while providing additional on ramps into and usage of our manufacturing platform. Similarly, our acquisitions of Moxion and Loop enable us to connect media and entertainment workflows and data from postproduction to preproduction. With Media and Entertainment signing its largest ever EVA in the Q4, the ability to connect preproduction workflows further expands our addressable TAM.

Speaker 2

We're also continuing to invest in our workforce, attract and retain the best talent in our industries and cultivate a shared sense of purpose and of diversity and belonging. We recently received recognition for that work with inclusion on the Corporate Knights Index of the World's Most Sustainable Companies and the highest possible score on the Human Rights Foundation's Corporate Equality Index. We are proud of our purpose and unique culture, one consequence of which is relatively low attrition compared to our technology peers. This is another source of competitive advantage in tight labor market. It also means that when gifted leaders like Scott Reiss and Pasco DiFranzo decide to climb their next mountains, we have a deep bench of internal talent like Jeff Kinder and Rebecca Pierce and alumni like Ruth Ann Keen to step into their shoes.

Speaker 2

And finally, business model and customer experience optimization. This includes the shift from perpetual licenses with maintenance to tiered subscriptions, The shift from desktop multi user licenses to named user subscriptions and consumption, the shift from indirect to direct, the shift from front end to back end payments to channel partners and most recently, the shift from upfront to annual billing, all of which enable us to better serve more customers in flexible and customized ways. As of February 1, we unified all Customer and partner facing activities, marketing, go to market, customer success and customer operations under our COO, Steve Bohm, to give us a better end to end view of the customer experience and to drive sustainable competitive advantage in growth. While the pandemic and its aftershocks mean we will fall narrowly short of the financial targets set more than 5 years ago, we have made tremendous progress through Investment in our technology, our workforce and our business model and customer experience, which have added adjacent use cases and usage in our ecosystem, Growing our addressable market and our ability to realize it. Importantly, the pandemic has accelerated the structural growth drivers underpinning our future growth.

Speaker 2

We have robust momentum as we enter fiscal 2023 and over the long term. Now let me turn the call over to Debbie to take you through the details of our quarterly financial performance and guidance for the year. I'll then come back to provide an update on our strategic growth initiatives.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Andrew. In an extraordinary year, we performed strongly across all metrics, perhaps best summarized by the Some of revenue growth and free cash flow margin for the year, which was 49%. Our 4th quarter results were strong. Several factors contributed to that, including robust renewal rates, strong growth in subscriptions and rapidly expanding digital sales. Total revenue grew 17% We're about 2 percentage points less in constant currency, with subscription revenue growing by 18%.

Speaker 3

Looking at revenue by product, AutoCAD and AutoCAD LT revenue grew 20%, AEC revenue grew 17% and manufacturing revenue grew 4%. Recall that Volt became ratable in fiscal 2022 and that manufacturing also benefited in Q4 last year from a strong performance in automotive EBAs, which included significant upfront revenue. Excluding these impacts, Manufacturing revenue grew in double digits in Q4. M and E revenue grew 38%, which included some upfront revenue from its largest ever EBA. Even if you exclude upfront revenue, M and E grew more than 20% in Q4.

Speaker 3

Across the globe, revenue grew 18% in the Americas and 16% in both EMEA and APAC. Direct revenue increased 27% And represented 38% of total revenue, up from 34% last year due to strength from both enterprise and e commerce. We had our best ever revenue quarter for digital sales, which helped annual e commerce sales surpass $500,000,000 for the first time. Our product subscription renewal rates remained at record highs, And our net revenue retention rate remains strongly within our 100% to 110% target range. Billings increased 13 percent to $1,700,000,000 reflecting robust underlying demand, But also a tough EBA comparison from last year.

Speaker 3

Total deferred revenue grew 13% to 3,800,000,000 Total RPO of $4,700,000,000 and current RPO of $3,100,000,000 grew 12% 15%, respectively, and as expected, reflecting billings growth and the timing and volume of multiyear contracts, which are typically on a 3 year cycle. Turning to the P and L. Non GAAP gross margin remained broadly level At 93%, while non GAAP operating margin increased by 5 percentage points to approximately 35%, reflecting strong revenue growth and ongoing cost discipline. GAAP operating margins declined by 6 percentage points to 12%, primarily due to lease related charges of approximately $100,000,000 which reflects The progress we've made to reduce our real estate footprint and to further our hybrid workforce strategy as we announced on our last call. We delivered record free cash flow in the quarter and for the full year of $716,000,000 $1,500,000,000 respectively.

Speaker 3

Having completed our first sustainability bond last quarter at historically attractive rates, We continue to optimize our capital structure in Q4 by accelerating our share repurchase activity. Given the recent pullback in our share price, we opportunistically repurchased shares at a higher rate than previous quarters, which allowed us to offset dilution in fiscal 2022 and to get ahead of a sizable amount of our estimated dilution in fiscal 2023. The net result was a slight reduction in our weighted average shares outstanding at the end of the year. During Q4, we purchased 2,300,000 shares for $613,000,000 at an average price of approximately $2.67 per share. For the full year, we repurchased nearly 4,000,000 shares at an average price of approximately $2.76 per share for a total spend of just over $1,000,000,000 You'll see us continue to be opportunistic with share buybacks, but our capital allocation strategy is unchanged.

Speaker 3

We'll invest organically and inorganically to drive growth as well as purchase shares to offset dilution from our equity compensation plans over time. Now let me finish with guidance. On our last call, we signaled that we saw FX headwinds And macroeconomic uncertainty due to supply chain challenges, labor shortages and the ebb and flow of COVID. That perspective hasn't changed. So the risk we highlighted 3 months ago is now incorporated into our fiscal 2023 outlook.

Speaker 3

Beyond that, we did see further strengthening of the U. S. Dollar, resulting in a slight incremental FX headwind to our fiscal 'twenty three expectations. To put it in numerical terms, our fiscal 'twenty two revenue growth reflects a 2 percentage point currency Tailwind, which with FX movements in the last quarter becomes a roughly 1 percentage point headwind to fiscal 'twenty three revenue growth. Similarly, FX moves during the Q4 resulted in an approximately $30,000,000 incremental headwind to fiscal 'twenty three free cash flow.

Speaker 3

Beyond FX, we are obviously keeping a close eye on the geopolitical, macroeconomic and policy environment. But having said all that, our strong momentum and competitive performance in fiscal 'twenty two set us up well for fiscal 2023, and we've assumed that market conditions in fiscal 2023 are consistent with what we experienced in the second half of fiscal 'twenty two. We expect fiscal 'twenty three revenue to be between $5,020,000,000 $5,120,000,000 with growth of approximately 16% at the midpoint and which reflects an incremental 1 percentage point FX headwind, as I mentioned earlier. We expect non GAAP operating margins to be approximately 37% and free cash flow to be between 2.13 And $2,210,000,000 The midpoint of that range, dollars 2,170,000,000 implies 47% growth and reflects the incremental $30,000,000 FX headwind that I mentioned earlier. The slide deck on our website has more details On modeling assumptions for Q1 and full year fiscal 2023.

Speaker 3

The pandemic has reinforced The structural growth drivers underpinning our strategy, and we remain confident in our long term growth potential. We continue to target double digit revenue growth, non GAAP operating margins in the 38% to 40% range and double digit free cash flow growth on a compound annual basis. These metrics are intended to provide a floor to our revenue growth ambitions and a ceiling to our spend growth expectations. Andrew, back to you.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Debbie. Our strategy is to transform the industries we serve with end to end cloud based solutions that enable our customers to drive efficiency and sustainability. Structural growth drivers underpinning this strategy have been reinforced by the pandemic, including increased workflow convergence and platform standardization, A growing focus on distributed working in the cloud, automation and workforce productivity, and also the growing importance of sustainability. Our model is scalable and extensible into adjacent verticals from architecture and engineering, through construction and owners, from product engineering, through product manufacturing And as I stated earlier, with our consistent investment in our technology, our workforce and our business model and customer experience, We are well positioned to realize these opportunities. And so, by both leading and partnering with our customers on new ways of working, we will grow too.

Speaker 2

For example, Golbeck is one of Europe's largest commercial design and construction companies and a leading practitioner of industrialized construction, and they use Inventor, Revit, Forge and Ciner Design on our platform to implement their precast and modular system concept. By standardizing the invisible and customizing the visible, Golbeck has been able to design and build Highly customized and aesthetically pleasing buildings reliably, quickly and efficiently. Having unified around BIM, Golbeck is now seeking to grow and connect beyond the design process to further improve efficiency and reduce waste through design automation during capital planning, for which it is trialing Spacemaker and great collaboration across design and build phases of construction using Autodesk Construction Cloud. With the launch of ARGUS Build, the introduction of an account based pricing business model and distribution to our channel partners, We are extending our reach into the construction market. For example, Lee Lewis Construction, an ENR 400 General Contractor from Texas, Has been driving innovation through construction technology for over 45 years.

Speaker 2

In 2021, it began adopting capabilities of the Autodesk Construction Cloud, beginning with Assemble for virtual design and construction with the end goal of a full replacement of their product management software with Autodesk Build. By having one platform for the full end to end construction workflow, Lee Lewis will be able to more efficiently deliver extraordinary results for their clients from concept planning to ribbon cutting. With strong growth from Artis Build and the benefit of recently launched ACC bundles for pre construction and construction operation. Autodesk Construction Cloud reported its best ever quarter and accelerating growth in the 4th quarter, Entering FY 'twenty three with strong momentum. We continue connecting the dots in infrastructure too, most recently through the acquisition of Innovyze.

Speaker 2

Sustainable water is an area of opportunity for Autodesk across the globe. For example, Thames Water owns and operates 1 of the oldest And most complicated water supply networks in Europe, supplying 9,000,000 customers in London and the Thames Valley. With InfraWorks WS Pro and IW Live Pro from Innovyze and an ongoing recruitment drive to double the size of their internal hydraulic modeling team. It is building a modeling center of excellence with a library of hydraulic models that can be run-in near real time. When connected and compared with telemetry, these dynamic digital twins will become powerful planning tools, enabling Thames Water's teams to gain near real time insight into system performance, leading to improved outcomes for our customers of today and tomorrow.

Speaker 2

I'm very pleased to report that Innovyze had its best quarter ever. Turning to manufacturing. We sustained strong momentum in our manufacturing portfolio this quarter as we connect more workflows beyond the design studio and develop more on ramps to our manufacturing platform. In automotive, we continue to grow our footprint beyond the design studio and into manufacturing connected factories. As automotive OEMs seek to break down work silos and shorten handoff and design cycles.

Speaker 2

For example, A multinational automobile company, which designs and jointly manufactures premium electric cars, operates in 4 countries across the world and is currently in the process of expanding to a further 20. With its new EBA signed in the Q4, it is not only adding additional users of Alias and vRad, It is also partnering with our consulting teams and product experts to both extend its in house manufacturing capabilities with Autodesk Moldflow and working on the rollout of ShotGrid globally to help seamlessly manage and collaborate across end to end workflows. Our platform approach gives new customers multiple on ramps into our cloud ecosystem. For example, a European based startup It creates smart charging systems for EVs worldwide, use the competitor's product and design, but was also running into collaboration challenges due to the rapid growth of its business. It shows Upchain as its cloud data management system because it is easy to install, is up and running out of the box and enables all users anywhere and on any device to collaborate on up to date data in real time.

Speaker 2

And it is easy to add new users and scale with the hyper growth of the company. These are also all attributes of Fusion 360, and we hope to earn the right to connect more workflows for Up chain users in the future. Fusion 360's commercial subscribers grew steadily, Ending the quarter with 189,000 subscribers. Early demand for our new extensions, including machining, generative design and nesting and fabrication has been strong and there has been significant interest in our upcoming simulation and design extension. While we often think of Education users taking Fusion 360 with them into the workforce, our commercial customers are also taking Fusion 360 into education to help train their future workforce.

Speaker 2

For example, Lawrence Equipment, as a member of the Pasadena City College Advisory Board, Showed the college how Fusion 360 had helped it innovate and improve its design and manufacturing workflows, resulting in greater operational efficiency, The college immediately found that students using Fusion 360 were spending less time learning how to use the software and more time on the machines learning important machining skills. The students also better understood how their work affected the company. As a result, Lawrence Equipment can hire from a steady pool of highly qualified Pasadena City College A win win. With sustained demand for compelling content and growing pressure to produce that content more efficiently, There is increased demand for content creation tools and cloud enabled production workflows in the media and entertainment industries. As a result, Media and Entertainment finished the year strong as companies emerging from the pandemic sought to connect siloed workflows and remote teams.

Speaker 2

For example, Technicolor, a worldwide creative technology leader, has renewed its commitment to Autodesk content creation and production management tools, such as Maya and ShotGrid. By standardizing on common tools across its global studios, Technicolor can unleash the creative potential of its remote and distributed workforce. By efficiently and securely connecting teams, Technicolor can continue to serve the growing demand for compelling content, redefining what's possible for storytellers and audiences around the globe. And finally, we continue to enable more users to participate in our ecosystem more productively to business model innovation and our license compliance initiatives. With single sign on for improved security and user level reporting, Our premium plan enables our customers to manage their software usage across distributed sites more safely and efficiently.

Speaker 2

As we help our customers understand the details of how they use our solutions, The better we can ensure the success by efficiently and effectively implementing them. For example, the Zetta Group with 17 subsidiaries worldwide specializes in planning, automation, digitization and maintenance of customized biopharmaceutical facilities for aseptic process solution. Zetta was looking for better visibility into its employee software usage and easier administration of subscribers. In Q4, It doubled the number of premium plan subscriptions to gain comprehensive employee level reporting for better insight and easier administration. That visibility into employee software usage and easier administration of subscribers also makes Premium Plans an attractive solution for customers seeking to remain license For example, after identifying that a multinational consumer products company based in the U.

Speaker 2

S. Had gaps in its account plan, We worked with the team to run a diagnostic scan to ensure it had access to the latest and safest versions of our software. This process identified gaps in software availability and license mix. Our collaborative, helpful approach enabled more users to access the latest versions of our software and upgrading to our premium plan easier to administer and manage access in the future. During the quarter, we closed 16 Dievels over $500,000 with our license compliance initiatives, 4 of which were over $1,000,000 As I said earlier, by both leading and partnering with our customers on new ways of working, We will grow too.

Speaker 2

And while there will certainly be twists and turns on the road ahead, in many ways the pandemic has accelerated the future and increased my confidence in our strategy. Empowering innovators with design and make technology to achieve the new possible also enables them to build and manufacture efficiently and sustainably. We continue to execute well in challenging times and look forward to Autodesk's next 40 years of excitement and optimism. Operator, we would now like to open the call up for questions.

Operator

Our first question comes from the line of Phil Winslow from Credit Suisse. Your question please.

Speaker 4

Great. Thanks for taking my quick question and congrats on the quarter. Andrew, just a question on you to you about the supply chain and the labor disruptions you talked about on the last call. Wonder if you could just give us an update on that, just sort of what were you hearing from customers Over the course of the past 3 months and then really if you could particularly focus on the AEC vertical because one of the things you obviously did call out in the slides was Record construction revenues and accelerating growth there. So thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thank you, Phil. Good to hear from you. So yes, so first, let me kind of frame it this way. What we saw was the kind of improvement we expected to see when we talked to you about this in Q3.

Speaker 2

So we saw some nice improvement. Our customers are saying they're feeling like they're coming out of some of the Our partners are echoing some of these things. We didn't see the optumastic expectations we had at the beginning of the fiscal year When we expected to see acceleration in the second half, but what we saw was consistent with what we told you in Q3 in terms of the improving climate, All right. So I think with regards to AEC in particular, which by the way I highlighted last quarter as being the key place that was feeling the most supply chain And cost pressure in terms of in flight projects, that's where we saw the improvement. And yes, We did have a record quarter in construction and we did end the quarter with some nice acceleration and momentum heading into the next year, but consistent with what we said in Q3,

Speaker 4

All right. Got it. And then just in terms of the backlog of projects you've been talking about for a couple of years now, Any thoughts on what sort of the customers are telling you about that? Do you think they're going to get unstick and sort of taken care of, call it, over the next 12 months? Or How are they thinking about that backlog?

Speaker 2

Yes. So what I can tell you is that we monitor bid board activity and we monitor the growth in active projects on Construction Cloud and BIN360 DOCS. And what we're seeing in bid board is we're seeing consistent growth in bidding activity And we're seeing an increasing number of monthly active projects on our cloud applications around Construction Cloud And $2.60 Those are usually leading indicators of project activity and backlog getting turned into active projects. So we consider those good signs, all right, in terms of how the environment is moving.

Speaker 5

Great. Thanks guys. Appreciate it.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Saket Kalia from Barclays. Your question please.

Speaker 6

Okay, great. Hey, Andrew. Hey, Debbie. Thanks for taking my questions here. Andrew, maybe for you, Big renewal year here in fiscal 2023.

Speaker 6

As we start to see maybe some more of those 3 year product Subscriptions come up for renewal this year. What's the data sort of showing, the preliminary data maybe, on sort of customers' willingness to renew At that same duration and perhaps just as importantly, their willingness to sort of expand their usage from prior levels. Does that make sense?

Speaker 2

Yes, it does make sense. And the short answer to this, Saket, is that, the willingness to renew Is the same or in some cases better than the willingness to renew the shorter duration contracts. So customers who Like long duration contracts who like the price lock tend to continue to grab the price lock and move on. That's what we've seen this Yes, so far. Now in terms of their willingness to buy more during these things, well, that's going to depend on their individual circumstances.

Speaker 2

So I'm not going to give you any Kind of specific numbers on how we're doing around their willingness to buy more. However, the net revenue to retention rates for the company are indicative Kind of how the global cohort of the company works with regards to this. So Debbie, would you like to add anything to that or comment on it?

Speaker 3

No, I think you covered it, Andrew.

Speaker 1

Got it.

Speaker 6

Got it. Debbie, maybe for my follow-up for you, I mean, understanding that we're just starting out fiscal 'twenty three, I was wondering if you had any thoughts On how we'll be phasing out the multi year product subscriptions in fiscal 2024? And maybe just Philosophically, how you think about the shape of that impact on cash flow now that we have a sort of revised fiscal 23 View. Again, understand it's early, but any thoughts on kind of how you think that works and the best way to think about modeling that?

Speaker 3

Yes, sure. So we aren't giving specific guidance today for fiscal 2024 and beyond, as you know. But as you can imagine, it's a big area of focus for us, and we are retaining the framework that we set out at Investor Day. So let's just recap that again. It is Double digit revenue growth through fiscal 'twenty six, non GAAP operating margins in the 38% to 40% range and double digit compound annual growth And free cash flow through fiscal 'twenty six.

Speaker 3

Now that's after that expected decline in fiscal 'twenty four when we institute our transition to annual billings for multiyear contracts. And as I mentioned in the prepared remarks, these metrics are intended to provide a floor to our revenue growth ambitions and a ceiling to our spend growth expectations. Now in terms of the decline for free cash flow, Specifically in fiscal 2024, I know there's a lot of interest in both the magnitude of it and the slope of it. And while we're not providing specifics today, here is how I think you should think about it. If I start with the slope, The slope of the free cash flow decline and then its recovery is going to depend on the pace at which our customers adopt annual billings.

Speaker 3

Right now, we intend to offer our customers a choice, but we're still working through the programmatic details. Our bias is going to be to go as quickly as possible, but we have customer, partner and operational constraints that we're working through as we navigate the And then to give you an order of magnitude, I'd say look at long term deferred as a percent of total deferred back in fiscal 2020. It was in that high 20s percent zone and we should see something similar in fiscal 2023 because it's that same cohort that's coming up for renewal. And so then as we move to annual billings, eventually that long term deferred will go away. And again, our bias is to move as quickly as Possible, but we're still working through the operational details.

Speaker 3

We'll give you updates on all of this as we progress through fiscal 2023.

Speaker 2

And you know, Sal, one thing that sorry, Sal.

Speaker 6

Please. No, no, no. Please go ahead, Andrew. No, no, please.

Speaker 2

No. One thing that excites me about this post annual billings transition is that the free cash flow starts tracking to the long term strategic drivers That I really like talking about. The digital transformation drivers that we talked about in Investor Day, including in the adjacent industries that we're going in, These things are going to be what tracks and drives the growth and the behavior of the free cash flow going forward, as well as labeling all those leveraging all those growth enablers around Business models and around non compliance. And also don't forget long term our whole effort to monetize the long tail Not only with offerings like Flex, but with new types of digital channels that reach deeper into places Where we might not be reaching customers today. So that's the exciting thing about getting through this for me is the free cash flow tracks with those long term strategic drivers.

Speaker 2

That's going to be a really great outcome for us.

Speaker 6

Makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the color guys.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jay Vleeschhouwer from Griffin Securities. Your question please.

Speaker 7

Thanks. Good evening. Andrew, Debbie, your slide deck is interesting in disclosing the 6,000,000 At the end of the fiscal year, which indicates an increase of about $700,000 from the end of fiscal 2021, Is it contemplated in your guidance for fiscal 2023 that you might be able to add a similar if not larger number to the subspace this year. The second question, your disclosure about the digital sales Revenue rate is very interesting, having grown now, apparently, to be the plurality of your direct revenue. Is it your view, Andrew, that the digital sales could become perhaps evenly split with the named accounts in EBA business?

Speaker 7

Or do you think named accounts in UBA remains the majority of the direct business?

Speaker 2

Yes. All right. So first, let me address Your first question. As you recall last year, and this was on me, we had those Too much to take assessments of accelerating new business growth into the second half of the year, all right. We're not assuming any of that Moving into this year, we're assuming things stay exactly as they are and as the conditions that we see right now are.

Speaker 2

The exception I'll give to that is that in our guidance, we did not factor in war in Ukraine. How that might affect our business is Completely unclear. I mean, I thought probably all of you heard President Biden's speech earlier today about some of his positions on this. But when it comes to looking at next year, we're assuming that current things move forward The way they are, all right. And also just remember that some of those subscriber increases that you saw were a result of multi user trade ins as well.

Speaker 2

I just want to make sure that we factor some of those in, but current course and speed is the general assumption here. Now with regards to Digital sales. Digital sales is a great example. It's our fastest growing channel. It's not growing at the expense Our partners are growing robustly as well.

Speaker 2

It's also a great example of what we're doing with digital productivity For ourselves and for our sales force, the digital channel reaches customers that we believe we have not historically been serving well. And they have they are not only finding us and buying our existing offerings, they're also engaging on some of our more forward looking offerings like Fusion 360. So that channel is going to continue to become more powerful. And as I've said many times before, as we look out to our long term goal of half of our revenue being direct, Half of that direct revenue is going to come from this digital channel. And clearly, you can see from the way what we've disclosed and the growth rates here, there is line of sight to those numbers over And that channel is going to continue to help us reach deeper into the long tail.

Speaker 2

It's going to continue to benefit from the digital productivity tools we're building just To make our general overall sales force more productive. And I have high hopes for that channel in the future. Now Debbie, did you want to add anything about, for Since I mentioned the Ukraine situation, anything around specifics about our exposure there or anything related to that or anything about the digital channel?

Speaker 3

Yes, sure. I'll cover Russia and the Ukraine. Just to be Listen, Russia and the Ukraine, they represented a bit less than 2 percentage points of our total revenue in fiscal 2022. And we have similar assumptions in our fiscal 2023 roll up. Obviously, events are unfolding live.

Speaker 3

This is a very fluid situation. It's a coincidence that our earnings call is today. So we haven't baked anything, Any potential risk that might occur there into our guidance, we're going to be watching things closely because at this point, We don't know if there's any impact at all. We don't know if there is impact, if it would be localized to Russia and the Ukraine specifically or whether or not it becomes a broader impact Across Europe and beyond, it's just too early for us to tell. What I would say though is that as we pointed out at our Investor Day, our business It is more resilient now after the business model transition.

Speaker 3

So that's one positive in the midst of all this. But as you can imagine, it's obviously a situation That we're watching really closely and we'll continue to update you as we know more.

Speaker 2

Thank you very much. The net headline is, Jay, We've assumed that things are going to continue as they are current course and speed. There's no accelerations, no anticipated uplift or anything That we were looking for in the coming guidance or the forward guidance.

Operator

Understood. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Adam Borg from Stifel. Your question please.

Speaker 8

Hey guys, and thanks so much for taking the question. Maybe just on the new products subscription growth in the quarter. Last quarter you talked about that moderating to the mid-20s after kind of being in the 30% range in the first half of the year. I guess how does that play out In 4Q and I'm assuming based on your prior comments, Andrew, that whatever you saw in the back half of the year, you're assuming that going forward. But I'd love to hear a little bit more Color, if you can, about how that played out in 4Q.

Speaker 2

I'm going to let Debbie take that question, Adam.

Speaker 3

Yes. Sure. I'll go ahead and take those. So Adam, yes, we have been talking quite a bit about new volume and it is a metric that we monitor very closely. Our new volume growth decelerated a few points in Q4, and that's because of a tough comp versus Q4 last year.

Speaker 3

But the growth was very healthy and it was in line With our expectations. And so that growth is effectively what we're considering as we build our guidance into next And to just reiterate what Andrew has been saying, we're assuming that the demand environment, including that new volume growth, It's built into our guidance and that there is no changes to the upside or the downside as we look ahead. But the bottom line answer is that The volume growth decelerated a few points, but it was as we expected and still was very healthy growth.

Speaker 8

Great. That's really helpful. And maybe just as a quick follow-up. It's great to see the growing traction with Autodesk Destruction Cloud. And kind of as you look forward a few years, maybe for you, Andrew, how expansive do you view the The opportunity relative to the current portfolio and

Speaker 5

do you have

Speaker 8

any interest at all to go deeper into the financials aspects? Thanks so much.

Speaker 2

Yes. Certainly, at some point, yes. But, look, I've always said that we believe the construction business is Autodesk $1,000,000,000 business. And I'd like to add just for those of you who are looking at these things, you're probably using the Make revenue Growth is a proxy for what we're doing. I want to make sure that you remember that because we have a diversity of business models and we offer Consumption models, account based models, subscription models that we blend the actual ACC business between our design bucket and our make bucket.

Speaker 2

So if you look at if you account for EBA impact On the make side of the business, the make side of the business grew about 30%. All right. So we're looking at good robust growth here. I expect that growth to continue and I continue to say that construction is not an S next $1,000,000,000 business And that should be the expectations of all growth.

Speaker 8

Great. Thanks again.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Hedberg from RBC Capital Markets. Your question please.

Speaker 2

Hey, thanks guys. Andrew, obviously, it's great

Speaker 9

to hear the results on the Construction Cloud side. I'm wondering on the manufacturing side of your business, And maybe using a baseball analogy, where do you think we are at in sort of the build out of the manufacturing cloud business relative to maybe where you wanted to get to at some point?

Speaker 2

Yes. It's a great question, Matt, because we're kind of in this transitional phase now where we built out the technology, We've gotten to the early adopter audiences. We've established a strong base for the product, a strong kind of Early market for Fusion, I mean, you heard in the opening commentary about the 189,000 plus subscribers. We're now moving into the phase of kind of trying to drive the acceleration of the growth in that space. I think we're early on.

Speaker 2

It's probably the 3rd inning or so in the process, right? We're starting off on a good base. That's the threshold that we've got as subscribers here is for those of you who know the history of this whole space, that is an excellent threshold to build on. That's usually where you start to cross the threshold of getting more and more material to the business. And we've had a leadership transition recently with Scott Rees taking A great job off to go work for GE, one of our customers, by the way, which is always good.

Speaker 2

Really happy for him and Jeff Kinder is stepping in as part of the succession planning process there. And Jeff Kinder cares a lot about scaling And scaling growth and scaling transformation. And I think his skill set is going to provide some excellent capabilities in this next phase. But it's still really early, all right. It's still 3rd inning ish in this game, and I think we should expect that to look like that.

Speaker 2

But over the next 5 years, Again, this is going to be a significant driver of that growth that we've been talking about beyond fiscal 'twenty four.

Speaker 9

That's great. And then maybe just as a quick follow-up, I think it was about a year ago, maybe when some of the supply chain questions We talked to a number of your partners who suggested that people were using Autodesk as a way to reduce waste and Just become more efficient with tight supply markets. As you reflect back on the last year, I mean, do you think that actually played out? And do you think That remains a pretty critical driver, especially in the world of supply chain or just broad ESG concerns.

Speaker 2

Yes. Absolutely. It's only going to become more important. So we actually have really compelling stories of old line industrial companies using Fusion 360, for example, at its generative capability To actually lightweight and take out mass from products and reduce their material usage for things as simple as hydraulic equipment, Right. Real world examples and we're seeing more and more of that.

Speaker 2

With regards to construction, every redo that you eliminate Is a waste is a reduction in waste and carbon footprint for that particular project. And as you know, More and more, it's not becoming a choice for construction firms. It's becoming a requirement. There are more and more mandates about what the carbon footprint of a particular The project has to be both its embedded carbon footprint and its lifetime carbon footprint. So this capability to reduce Energy, select the right materials, reduce the amount of materials used is going to become a critical differentiator for lots of people.

Speaker 2

And It's really exciting to see some of these companies that you would never expect adopting some of our newest technology simply because It helps them address that key challenge to their businesses to be more sustainable and to be greener.

Speaker 5

Super exciting. Thanks. Thanks, Andrew.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Joe Vruwink from Baird, your question.

Speaker 10

Great. Hi, everyone. First question is just more of a fact check on my part, but I'm wondering if the only change in the formal guidance you're providing today versus the Preliminary view you provided last quarter, the only difference is just the strengthening in the dollar and the incremental FX headwind. Is that correct?

Speaker 3

That's correct. The overall headline is that the numbers are consistent with what we talked about last call. We've just adjusted them for our latest FX assumptions. And that's causing about a point of headwind to revenue growth and another about $30,000,000 in incremental headwind to free cash flow and that's been baked into the guidance.

Speaker 10

Okay. Thank you. And then the second question, Andrew, I know you've said that AutoCAD Maybe isn't the leading indicator that it once was, but nevertheless, it did accelerate pretty nicely here at year end. It might have been your fastest growing business if you've removed upfront contribution from media. So I'm just wondering if there's anything I kind of read between the lines there.

Speaker 2

I think it's commensurate with an increase in monthly active usage, Which I still think is becoming a better proxy. So for instance, our total monthly active usage of all our products increased over 10% in Q4 year over year. So those two things correlate pretty closely. And I think that's still the proxy, but you're right. I think the AutoCAD performance is a result of that strong monthly active usage performance that we're starting to see heading into the fiscal year.

Speaker 10

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of TK Nik from SMBC, your question please.

Speaker 5

Hi, hey, great. Hey, thanks for taking my question. I was wondering About your in Q4, the kind of the elimination toning down the multiyear discounts, What was the reaction to that and kind of how do you gauge what that will look like going forward? And then just for housekeeping, I missed a comment at the very start of the call about what drove the other line did very well. And I think there was some upfront revenue there.

Speaker 5

Could you just

Speaker 3

Thanks, Steve. Just lots of unpack there, but let's start at the top on multi So yes, we did see a discount change from 10% to 5% in the past quarter. And obviously, when we adjust pricing, We do see some customers take advantage of the window and buy ahead of that when the price change goes into effect. We saw similar behavior with this price adjustments and that's As expected, we're always going to be looking at ways to optimize our business. This is just one example of that.

Speaker 3

And I'd also say that The multiyear renewal rates remain firm even after that discount reduction. And then in terms of other revenue, Yes. Other revenue tends to be a little bit of a mixed bag, but the other revenue is in part what drove the beat In our Q4 revenue and a piece of that, a big piece of that is non cloud enabled products that we sell through our EBAs, That are recognized upfront. We typically see our highest EBA volume in Q4 and depending on the composition of those deals that Can sometimes drive a slight surge in upfront revenue as a result, and that's what we saw in Q4 in the beat and in what you're seeing in other. We continue to expect, however, that upfront and other is going to be a relatively small part of our business over time and that recurring revenue should be 95% or greater.

Speaker 5

Terrific. Great. Thanks a lot, Debbie. Congrats on the quarter.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Sterling Auty from JPMorgan. Your question please.

Speaker 11

Yes, thanks. Hi guys. Debbie, I want to circle back to cash flow. You had made the mention that there's some constraints from customers and partners on shift to annual billings. Can you give us maybe a quick example of what some of those constraints might be and why you might not just be able to rip off the band aid and move quicker to annual billings now.

Speaker 3

Yes. So as I mentioned back at the Investor Day, We do the first part is operational. So we are upgrading our systems to be able to handle this volume of multiyear contracts with annual billings at scale. Our systems don't provide for that capability today. And it's a major system overhaul that we're working on and it's going to take us some time.

Speaker 3

And we're looking at how fast we can create that capability And over what time period? Again, I'd say that our bias is that we execute on this transition right away when we get to fiscal 2024, but it is going to take us time And continued investment in both dollars and people to make sure that our systems are set up for that. And so we're looking at that right now. The second piece that we talked about At Investor Day, that still is important to us is that our partners are very important to Autodesk, very important to our growth, Very important to in our ability to drive breadth and depth across the globe and engaging with customers and our partners, We want to make sure that we work with them, as we execute on this transition to make sure that we optimize not only for us And for our customers, but also for those partners that are important to us. And so we're going to be looking at the programmatic details of that over the next with an eye towards making sure that we've set ourselves up for success in the entire ecosystem as we get to that start of fiscal 'twenty four.

Speaker 11

Understood. Makes sense. And then maybe one follow-up. Outside of the $30,000,000 FX headwinds On free cash flow for fiscal 2023, how else would we kind of think about the bridge From the guidance that you've given to the previous long term target that was there.

Speaker 3

Sure. So the previous long term target was $2,400,000,000 And on the last call, we talked about a couple of 100,000,000,000 in risk to that, that was broken down roughly equally Between the macro backdrop and FX, and then we have an incremental $30,000,000 in FX Now given the continued strengthening of the dollar in the last 90 days. So net net, it's about $100,000,000 in macro Business risk, again, that we highlighted on the last call and then a total of $130,000,000 risk from FX and that continued Strengthening of the dollar and that's why you see the midpoint of the guide right there at that $2,170,000,000

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jason Celino from KeyBanc Capital. Your question please.

Speaker 12

Great. Thanks for fitting me in. Maybe just a couple for Andrew. I kind of want to go a little deeper on the architecture side of your business. This is obviously your bread and butter.

Speaker 12

How would you describe kind of the end market environment right now for that segment? And then what kind of growth initiatives Should we be thinking of for this year and long term?

Speaker 2

Yes. So Architecture is coming out of the situation as coming out of pandemic. We've seen that there are The index that drives architecture activity is going up consistently. So architects are feeling Better about the future and architects are also investing more in BIM, which is a critical part of their transition From 2 d based practices to 3 d based practices. So that trend is going to continue.

Speaker 2

That's part of the bigger long From digitization trend that we're seeing in architecture in particular, more and more people are moving to 3 d processes, 3 d BIM and they're looking to adopt Revit and tools like Revit more aggressively so that they can stay competitive in the new world of the market. It's also a lot of increased labor productivity for them. So they're going to be looking at some of these new tools that allow them to do more with the labor pool they have, especially in the tight labor market. So that's where we're looking at with construction. The ongoing digitization move to BIM, That's going to accelerate as architects continue to get more optimistic about their project pipeline.

Speaker 2

But all the data is out there saying that We're seeing a better pipeline for the architecture segment.

Speaker 12

Yes. And then when I kind of just think about the architecture job, Is it unfair to think that maybe that role in particular has been hit maybe harder than some of the other jobs within AEC?

Speaker 2

It certainly was hit harder early on. There's no doubt about it, all right. It was the least prepared for remote work Because it was essentially an office type profession, it has adapted. They have certainly adopted Our cloud based tools at a rate significantly higher than prior to the pandemic. So they've gotten on to BIM Collaborate and BIM Collaborate Pro At higher rates than we ever saw previously.

Speaker 2

So they're adapting. But yes, early on in this pandemic and in the last few years, they were hit relatively harder. But they're coming back and they're adapting. They still have to build up their book of business. They still have to build up their cushion, But that segment is absolutely coming back.

Speaker 2

And it's coming back in the cloud too.

Operator

Thank you. That's all the time we have for Q and A today. I'll now hand the program back to Simon Mays Smith for any further remarks.

Speaker 1

Thanks, everyone, for coming along. If you have any further questions, please do get in touch with me. Otherwise, we'll look forward to updating you on our Q1 results call. Thanks very much.

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good day.

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