LyondellBasell Industries Q1 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

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April 29, 2022

There are 8 speakers on the call.

Operator

Hello, and welcome to the LyondellBasell Teleconference. At the request of LyondellBasell, this conference is being recorded for instant replay purposes. Following today's presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. David Kinney, Head of Investor Relations.

Operator

Sir, you may begin.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Alex. Before we begin the discussion, I would like to point out that the slide presentation accompanies today's call and and is available on our website at www.lyondellbasell.com/investorrelations. Today, we will be discussing our business results while making reference Some forward looking statements and non GAAP financial measures. We believe the forward looking statements are based upon reasonable assumptions and the alternative measures are useful to investors. Nonetheless, the forward looking statements are subject to significant risk and uncertainty.

Speaker 1

We encourage you to learn more about the factors that could lead our actual results to differ By reviewing the cautionary statements in the presentation slides and our regulatory filings, which are also available at our Investor Relations website. Additional documents on our investor website provide reconciliations of non GAAP financial measures to GAAP financial measures, together with other disclosures, including the earnings release and our business results discussion. A recording of this call will be available by telephone beginning at 1 p. M. Eastern Time today until May 29th by calling 877 660-6853 in the United States and 201-612-7415 outside of the United States.

Speaker 1

The access code for both numbers is 1,372,7006. During today's call, we will focus on Q1 results, The current market and our near term outlook. Before turning the call over to Ken, I would like to call your attention to the non cash lower of cost or market inventory adjustments or LCM and the impairments that we have discussed on past calls. LCM adjustments are related to our use of last in first out or LIFO accounting And the volatility in prices for our raw materials and finished goods inventories. Impairment charges were recognized to write down assets to their estimated fair value.

Speaker 1

Impairments include the non cash impairment of $624,000,000 in the Q4 of 2021 that reflects our evaluation of strategic options for the Houston refinery. Comments made on this call will be in regard to our underlying business results, excluding the impacts of impairments and LCM inventory adjustments. With that being said, I now would like to turn the call over to Ken.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Dave, and welcome to all of you. We appreciate you joining us today as we discuss our Q1 2022 results. Today's teleconference marks my 2nd earnings call As the Interim CEO of LyondellBasell, and I would like to thank our Board of Directors for the opportunity to lead the company over the past few months. Our incoming CEO, Peter Vanecker, joined our Board on February 25, and we're looking forward to him assuming his role as Chief Executive Officer on May 23. Peter and I have been talking over the past several months to ensure smooth transition and a successful start to his leadership of our company.

Speaker 2

I know that Peter is very eager to engage with our employees, customers, investors and suppliers to help us build upon the momentum we have underway at LyondellBasell. Before we get into the results, I would like to take a moment to address the tragic and unprovoked Tax unfolding in Ukraine. My heart breaks seeing so many people devastated and the resulting humanitarian crisis. At LyondellBasell, we are working to address the impacts of this crisis through our global corporate citizenship program, Advancing Good. The company and our employees have collectively donated more than $600,000 to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees And the International Medical Corps.

Speaker 2

LyondellBasell's presence in Russia and Ukraine is fairly limited. Less than 0.3% of our 2021 revenue came from Russia and a negligible amount from Ukraine. In March, we announced that LyondellBasell will not enter into any new business transactions or relationships with Russian state owned entities. We also intend to discontinue business relationships with those companies to the extent legally possible. Of course, we are also compliant with all U.

Speaker 2

S. And international sanctions. While we have no manufacturing sites in Russia or Ukraine, We do have about 30 employees working in offices in Russia. Last week, we made the difficult decision to cease operations at our Moscow And toggliati offices. We have a local team in place to support our employees during this transition period.

Speaker 2

At LyondellBasell, we believe in the power of many, and we hope many of you find ways to support the Ukrainian people and influence peace and stability across Europe. Now let's review our Q1 results starting with Slide 3. LyondellBasell's businesses are Continuing to benefit from solid global demand and improving markets from products from our Intermediates and Derivatives segment. During the Q1, LyondellBasell generated $4 per share of earnings, dollars 2,000,000,000 of EBITDA and $1,500,000,000 Cash from operating activities. The start of the year is typically a seasonally slow period for the petrochemical industry.

Speaker 2

2022 marks the first time since 2015 where LyondellBasell earned $2,000,000,000 of EBITDA during the Q1 And our income of $4 per share establishes a new first quarter earnings per share record for the company. Despite a turbulent backdrop with Geopolitical uncertainties, ongoing supply chain challenges and volatile prices for energy and feedstocks, LyondellBasell is off to a great start in 2022. Let's turn to Slide 4 and review our safety performance. LyondellBasell's commitment to safety Leadership remains a consistent and unwavering component of our company's culture. In 2022, our year to date total recordable incident rate For employees and contractors has improved by more than 40% to 0.12%.

Speaker 2

This year, we are emphasizing the importance of instilling safety related touch points during interactions that occur naturally throughout the workday at our facilities. Whether it's planned or spontaneous, these daily touch points provide powerful opportunities to convey authentic and impactful leadership related to safety This personalized approach to safety improvement is yielding results. During March, We had only one recordable entry across our global workforce of more than 19,000 employees. This represents substantial progress toward our ultimate goal of 0 injuries. And I want to thank all of our employees for their commitment to our Goal 0 journey.

Speaker 2

On Slide 5, we highlight the recent publication of the 5th edition of our annual sustainability report. This year's report updates our progress toward goals of help in addressing climate change, ending plastic waste and supporting a thriving society. The cover graphic from the report highlights our focus on 2,030 Interim targets that track our progress toward longer term goals. Last September, we accelerated targets and set a goal to achieve net 0 Scope 1 and Scope 2 greenhouse gas emissions from our global operations by 2,050. Our interim 2,030 target is to reduce absolute emissions from our global operations by 30% relative to a 2020 baseline.

Speaker 2

In the area of circular plastics, our 2,030 goal is to produce a meaningful share of our polymer production, 2,000,000 tons per year from recycled and renewable based feedstocks. And this year, We announced new targets supporting our diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives. Our goals are to achieve gender parity across our global senior leadership And increase the number of underrepresented groups in our U. S. Senior leadership to reflect the general population within 10 years.

Speaker 2

Please turn to Slide 6, where we highlight some of our recent collaborations to develop more sustainable products. First, we've collaborated with Nippon Paint to produce packaging for the Chinese market using LyondellBasell's mechanically recycled Circular and recover polypropylene. The paint containers reuse post consumer plastic waste and reduce reliance on fossil based feedstocks. Next, we show an example of the polyethylene tubes we developed with our customer Albea for L'OCCITAN shower scrub. The caps and tubes are designed to be fully recyclable and made with LyondellBasell's Circulin Revive polymers that are produced from an advanced molecular recycling process using plastic waste.

Speaker 2

The redesigned tubes Retain the iconic brand's look and feel, while providing a new life for plastic waste and reducing consumption of fossil based feedstocks. Finally, we collaborated with several customers to develop clear polypropylene drink cups for McDonald's from our Circulin Renew Polymers Using renewable feedstocks produced by Neste from bio based sources such as McDonald's used cooking oil. We also have a similar collaboration underway with Circular and Revive to make cups for Wendy's Restaurants. Wendy's estimates that their cup will divert £10,000,000,000 of plastic waste from landfills over the 1st 2 years. LyondellBasell's collaborations on Sustainability extends both up and down the supply chain.

Speaker 2

In Houston, we helped form the Houston Recycling Collaboration to increase recycling rates and improve the availability of feedstock from plastic waste. And through our investment with Khozu Partners, We have invested in material recovery facilities that support post consumer plastic waste recycling in New York, New Jersey and Florida. Also, we are making good progress in decarbonizing our electrical power consumption By eliminating coal on our Wesseling, Germany facility and establishing renewable power purchase agreements with partners. In addition, we are collaborating with several peers on the development of large scale carbon capture and storage facilities for the Houston region That would help decarbonize our industry. Notably, we want to acknowledge our decision to exit the refining business by the end of 2023.

Speaker 2

This was a difficult decision, but we determined that an exit is likely to provide the best outcome for the company. We will talk more about this decision later in this call. Nonetheless, on the sustainability front, the shutdown of the refinery is expected to reduce LyondellBasell's Scope 1 and 2 greenhouse gas emissions by nearly 15%. Our strategy is to both leverage LyondellBasell's proprietary technology And collaborate with capable partners to advance our progress on circular plastics and de carbonization initiatives. Please turn to Slide 7 to review our quarterly profitability.

Speaker 2

During the Q1, Our business portfolio delivered over $2,000,000,000 of EBITDA similar to 4th quarter results. Despite volatile prices for energy and feedstocks, Solid product demand supported margins for our products across most markets in Europe and the Americas. Supply disruptions triggered by the war in Ukraine And the COVID pandemic created headwinds during the quarter. While we remain watchful for signs of demand destruction from inflation, We've been largely successful in passing through higher energy and feedstock costs in the prices of our products. We expect the strict 0 COVID policies in China will continue to hinder growth and profitability in Asia during the Q2.

Speaker 2

At LyondellBasell, our Oxyfuels and Refining businesses are benefiting from increased demand for transportation fuels As in person activities resume and global travel recovers, we expect that favorable markets for transportation fuels will continue through next year. Slide 8 depicts LyondellBasell's historical profitability. Over the course of the first complete business cycle for our company, We delivered an average of $6,700,000,000 of EBITDA. In today's strong market and with LyondellBasell's larger asset base, We delivered $9,700,000,000 of EBITDA over the last 12 months, nearly 45% above the prior cycle average. LyondellBasell's earnings performance is clearly stepping up from prior business cycles.

Speaker 2

We are well positioned with a diversified portfolio And larger asset base with propylene oxide and oxyfuels growth underway to extend this performance into the next cycle. With that, I'll turn the call over to Michael, who will describe our financial and segment results in more detail. Thank you, Ken, and good morning, everyone. Please turn to Slide 9 and let me begin by extending the Stepping Up theme to the substantial cash generation from our businesses. In the Q1, LyondellBasell generated $1,500,000,000 of cash from operating activities that contributed toward a new record of $8,600,000,000 in cash from operations over the last 12 months.

Speaker 2

During the past 4 quarters, Our team efficiently converted 88% of our EBITDA into cash. After accounting for sustaining capital reinvested in the business, We achieved a free operating cash flow yield of 23% relative to our market capitalization over the last 12 months. The LyondellBasell team is highly focused on extending our proven track record of efficient cash generation, provide prudent reinvestment in our company and generous returns for our shareholders. Let's continue with Slide 10 and review the details of our cash generation and allocation during the Q1. With $1,500,000,000 of cash from operating activities, we funded our dividends and capital investments for the Q1, while continuing to repurchase shares and building some cash on the balance sheet.

Speaker 2

During the Q1, we returned nearly $600,000,000 to shareholders With more than $400,000,000 in capital expenditures. This includes our new world scale POTBA plan starting up later this year. We ended the quarter with $1,800,000,000 of cash and short term investments and $5,900,000,000 of cash and available liquidity. With our total debt at 1.2 times trailing EBITDA, our leverage ratios are below our targeted range of 1.5 to 2.5. And we see no need for further deleveraging at this time.

Speaker 2

Now, I'd like to provide an overview of the results For each of our segments on Slide 11, as Ken mentioned, LyondellBasell's business portfolio delivered over $2,000,000,000 of EBITDA during the Q1. Our results reflect solid demand for our products and improving market conditions benefiting our I and D and APS segments, Offset by higher feedstock costs that compressed margins in our O and P Americas segment. Let's begin the individual segment discussions on Slide 12 With the performance of our Olefins and Polyolefins Americas segment. Q1 2022 EBITDA was $911,000,000 $351,000,000 lower than the Q4 2021. All of them results decreased approximately $170,000,000 compared to the 4th quarter With lower margins due to higher feedstock costs and lower pricing for propylene and butadiene co products.

Speaker 2

We completed planned cracker maintenance at our La Porte, that contributed to lower volumes and resulted in our North America crackers operating at a rate of 82% during the quarter. Polyolefin's results decreased approximately $185,000,000 during the Q1 due to compressed margins driven by lower product prices And higher monomer costs. Stable demand led to relatively comparable volumes despite ongoing logistics and raw material challenges. In March, we achieved an increase in polyethylene contract prices to reverse 4th quarter trends of declining prices. We continue to see strong demand for our polymers as we head into the Q2.

Speaker 2

We expect margin recovery as product prices rise, Reflect higher energy and feedstock costs and stronger summer demand heightens markets. Now please turn to Slide 13 To review the performance of our olefins and polyolefins Europe, Asia, International segment. Higher product prices and volumes Offset rising costs in EAI markets, resulting in 1st quarter EBITDA of $188,000,000 $33,000,000 higher than the 4th quarter. Prior quarter results were impacted by LIFO inventory valuation charges of approximately $30,000,000 Olefins results increased about $25,000,000 as margins improved driven by increased monomer prices that offset higher feedstock and energy costs. We operated our European crackers at a rate of 74% of capacity due to planned maintenance and feedstock supply disruptions resulting from the war in Ukraine.

Speaker 2

Combined polyolefin results increased approximately $35,000,000 compared to the prior quarter. Stable demand drove increased polyolefin price spreads and volumes, despite higher energy and monomer costs. Historically low Asian polyolefin spreads and weaker volumes driven by COVID related lockdowns in China caused our joint venture equity income to decline by about $50,000,000 During the Q2, we expect that volumes and integrated margins for the segment Will be comparable to the Q1, our steady demand should support price increases and keep pace with increasing costs. On April 13, we reached an agreement to sell our Australian polypropylene business to Veeva Energy. We expect a second quarter Non cash asset impairment charge of approximately $70,000,000 in the O and P EAI segment related to the sale of this business.

Speaker 2

Last quarter, we provided guidance related to planned maintenance at our cracker in Berre, France. Due to additional work, we now think this turnaround Will impact Q2 EBITDA by about $50,000,000 As high inflation begins to trigger concerns about the potential for recession, It is instructive to review the resilience of polyethylene demand growth over the past 30 years. In Slide 14, The chart depicts the strength of polyethylene demand relative to other markets through the last 4 U. S. Recessions.

Speaker 2

As indicated by the Turquoise line, PE demand is remarkably resilient and compounds at a fairly consistent rates of about 4%, meaningfully higher than typical GDP. Unlike U. S. Housing and vehicle markets, PE demand is relatively inelastic and embedded in essential products for our modern lives. Polyethylene is a foundational building block for consumer staples With right branching applications such as food packaging, daily hygiene supplies and healthcare products.

Speaker 2

And with a cost advantage from shale feedstocks, U. S. Polyethylene production increasingly serves a global market. We expect these resilient growth trends will continue as more people in emerging markets gain purchasing power and increased consumption of these essential products For Modern Life. Please turn to Slide 15 as we take a look at our Intermediates and Derivatives segment.

Speaker 2

Robust margin expansion in most businesses resulted in record first quarter EBITDA of $546,000,000 $294,000,000 above the prior quarter. Prior quarter results were impacted by LIFO inventory valuation charges of approximately 95,000,000 1st quarter propylene oxide and derivative results increased $50,000,000 as butanediol and other derivative margins expanded. Durable goods demand remains solid, resulting in comparable volumes for the quarter. Intermediate Chemicals results Increased more than $30,000,000 Margins increased in most businesses, primarily styrene and acetyls, driven by tight market supply. Volumes increased as a result of improved Q1 operations.

Speaker 2

Oxyfuels and related products results increased more than $125,000,000 As margins improved on higher gasoline prices and moderation in the ratio of butane feedstock prices relative to crude oil. Prior to the pandemic, our Oxyfuels business was a fairly reliable contributor to the profitability of our Intermediates and Derivatives segment. With gasoline demand approaching pre pandemic levels, we expect a return to typical performance for the Oxyfuels business in 2022. In the Q2, we expect volumes to increase with seasonal strength and demand for global goods from building and construction markets. Margins for Oxyfuels and related products are expected to expand with typical seasonal reductions in butane feedstock costs And increased gasoline demand associated with summer travel.

Speaker 2

Planned maintenance at our butanediol facility And one of our 2 propylene oxide units located at our Channelview, Texas site is expected to impact 2nd quarter EBITDA For intermediates and derivatives segment by approximately $80,000,000 Over the past 2 weeks, we declared force majeure for several acid fuel products Due to equipment failure at a La Porte, Texas site, if we are successful in restarting Acetyl's production during May, We are currently estimating a second quarter EBITDA impact for the downtime of approximately $50,000,000 Now let's move forward and review the results of our Advanced Polymer Solutions segment on Slide 16. Improving volumes from automotive production And higher margins resulted in 1st quarter EBITDA of $125,000,000 $101,000,000 higher than the 4th quarter. Prior quarter results were impacted by LIFO inventory valuation charges of approximately $55,000,000 Compounding and solution results increased $40,000,000 Volumes increased due to improved demand from automotive parts manufacturers Relative to the Q4, margins increased through stronger product pricing and improving asset utilization, Partially offset by higher raw material and energy costs. Advanced Polymer results increased $10,000,000 driven by increased Seasonal roofing demand for catalog and higher product prices. We expect results will be similar in the second quarter As automotive recovery continues to drive volumes, while rising costs impact margins.

Speaker 2

The latest IHS production Forecast predicts a 4% rise in 2022 global automotive builds and a 9% increase in 2023. Unfortunately, these reduced forecasts delay a return to prior peak production levels until 2025. Now please turn to Slide 17 and discuss the results of our Refining segment. Our first quarter EBITDA Was $148,000,000 a decrease of $2,000,000 Prior quarter results benefited from LIFO inventory valuation changes of approximately $50,000,000 In the Q1, the Maya 211 benchmark expanded significantly to $30.82 per barrel, a $7.24 increase due to higher demand for gasoline and diesel, Partially offset by lower byproduct value. We operated the refinery at 95% of nameplate capacity with an average crude throughput of 255,000 barrels per day.

Speaker 2

In April, refining margins continued to expand with increasing demand for transportation fuels. We expect refining markets will remain favorable during the summer months. Please turn to Slide 18 as we review the results For our Technology segment, 1st quarter EBITDA was $103,000,000 $70,000,000 lower than the prior quarter's record level. The results were driven by lower licensing revenue and higher Catalyst volumes and margins. We expect that second quarter profitability for our technology business will be slightly higher than the Q1 based on the anticipated timing of licensing revenue milestones.

Speaker 2

With that, I'll turn the call over to Ken. Ken? Thank you, Michael. As I mentioned earlier, last week we announced our decision to exit The crude oil refining business no later than the end of 2023. While these decisions are never easy, operation of the refinery beyond next year would require Significant capital investment.

Speaker 2

After thoroughly analyzing our options, we determined that exiting the business was the best path forward. Our intention is to safely operate the refinery at full rates through the end of next year to meet strong market demand for transportation fuels. During that time, we will continue to consider potential transactions and alternatives for the site. As mentioned earlier, by exiting refining, LyondellBasell will make substantial progress in reducing the company's greenhouse gas emissions. In addition, the refinery is located on 700 acres in Center of one of the world's leading integrated petrochemical hubs.

Speaker 2

The site's unique location provides LyondellBasell with valuable options for future growth, including further development of our circular businesses. We recognize that this decision affects our employees, their families and the community. Our employees and contractors at the refinery have delivered outstanding performance in safety, reliability, cost improvement and profitability over the past several years. We sincerely thank them for their contributions, and we are committed to supporting our people through this transition. Now let me summarize the Q1 and our outlook with Slide 19.

Speaker 2

With all of the turbulence in the global economy, LyondellBasell's 1st quarter results illustrate the benefits of our global business portfolio and how demand for our products is highly resilient. While Asia is suffering from weak markets and historically low margins, demand in Europe and the Americas remains remarkably strong and consistent. Improving margins in our Intermediates and Derivatives segment offset 1st quarter margin compression in our O and P Americas business. We expect PE chain margins to improve with higher seasonal demand supporting polymer price increases. Also, increased demand for transportation fuels is driving a recovery from pandemic related weakness in our Oxyfuels and Refining businesses.

Speaker 2

As a result, we expect cash generation will remain strong at LyondellBasell. Just like our earnings, we are stepping up in our progress on sustainability. Today, we talked about a few of our collaborations with customers to develop circular and renewable products for meaningful applications. We are exiting refining and entering into agreements for the supply of renewable power that will drive significant progress on our path toward de carbonization. And we are raising our targets and expanding on our disclosures in our latest sustainability report.

Speaker 2

We remain committed to prudent capital allocation. With robust cash generation, we plan to continue rewarding shareholders through a growing dividend and share repurchases. We are consistent in our commitment to an investment grade balance sheet and remain highly disciplined in our consideration of organic and inorganic growth investments. The coming months are exciting times for LyondellBasell. Our businesses are generating resilient results despite volatile economic conditions.

Speaker 2

We are laying groundwork for new more sustainable business models that are likely to reshape value change across our industry. And later this year, we will be starting up our new propylene oxide and oxyfuel assets during a period of robust margins and strong market demand. Finally, on May 23, I look forward to welcoming our next CEO, Peter Vanacker to lead LyondellBasell. I hope you share my enthusiasm about the future of our company under his leadership. We're now pleased to take your questions.

Operator

Thank you, sir. We do ask you to please limit to one question. Our first question comes from the line of Christopher Parkinson with Mizuho. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 3

Good morning. This is Kieran on for Chris. I was wondering if you could just touch

Speaker 2

a little bit more in terms of what operating rates you're Expecting an O and P Americas in 2Q and throughout the year and maybe how you see that supporting what have been announced price increases throughout the Thank you for your question. We are as we said during the remarks, We are still very bullish on the demand outlook, especially in the Americas. So we see demand being very strong. We had a record Sales month in the month of March for polyethylene in the Americas. And we see April actually Looking to improve on that.

Speaker 2

So we're our outlook is that we'll continue to see operating rates, Effective rate is probably in the 90% or higher range. So that's going to be very supportive for the price increases that are in the market today.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jeff Zekauskas with JPMorgan. Please proceed.

Speaker 4

Thanks very much. Polyethylene prices in China Continue to fall. Maybe if you look at the month forward prices, maybe they're down $100 a ton to $13.30 something like that. What do you make of that? In that I would have thought that profitability was pretty poor even at higher prices, and there's been a movement upward in the other regions.

Speaker 4

And maybe you could also comment on the changing profitability of your bora cracker.

Speaker 2

Good morning, Jeff. Thank you for your question. I hope you're doing well. Yes, so China definitely we've been seeing headwinds there, a lot of that related Still to the COVID lockdown, as you can imagine, the demand profile in China is quite challenging today With the amount of lockdowns that we see also that's going to have an impact on some of the supply chain situation that we've seen. So prices today have basically been moving pretty much with feedstock in China.

Speaker 2

And when you look across the industry there, You do see all of the crackers, all the operators of crackers, they are cutting back on rates. So even for us at the Board of Joint Venture, we've reduced rates and we've got a 1st quartile asset. So we do expect that In the coming months, what's going to happen is you're going to see a reset around inventory. Inventories are not high in China by any means. And you're going to see the inventory come down and then I expect you're going to see demand come back.

Speaker 2

That reopening impact is still to come in China. And so while yes, in the short term, we're seeing some challenges around profitability with the cracker assets in China. As I look out In the next few months, I expect that's going to reverse and you're going to see a snapback in demand.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Steve Byrne with Bank of America. Please proceed.

Speaker 4

Yes. Thank you. I have a couple

Speaker 5

of questions about your Circulant products and perhaps about the renew, which is Derived from the renewable naphtha that you get from Neste. Do you see that as challenged Longer term because that feedstock is can go into renewable diesel and get lots of credits. And why not pursue kind of a carbohydrate path for that feedstock such as ethanol sourced

Speaker 2

Thank you, Steve, for your question. Yes. So we're very proud of the product portfolio that we're developing. As we've said before, we're looking forward to being a leader in the area of circularity And launch of our Circulant brand globally last year, you're beginning to see the fruits of that effort in the products that we've been Developing together with customers today. In our portfolio, as we look forward, the Circular and Renew part of our portfolio will probably be Smaller segment for us.

Speaker 2

We are much more bullish on our ability to develop the advanced recycling and Mechanical recycling parts of our business, those really fit very well with our technical capabilities around developing new processes, but So the application development that we do together with our customers. So we will continue to look for opportunities to develop The Circular and Renew portfolio, where we see that and where customers are demanding lower CO2 footprint products, Which is primarily why you want those Circular and Renew products. But remember, when you're doing recycling, people are driving recycled content. So there is a little bit of a different value proposition for those two products in the marketplace.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of John McNulty with BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed.

Speaker 5

Hi, good morning. This is Bhavesh Soudhaya for John. So in the I and D segment, clearly very impressive results, especially in the Q1. Now within the Q1, a lot changed in March with the spike in crude. So could you describe or maybe break out the earnings seen in March And then you mentioned that you expect Oxyfuels earnings to return towards more of a normalized earnings level this year.

Speaker 5

What is the next view number please?

Speaker 2

Thanks, Pavesh, for the question. Yes, look, intermediates and derivatives Really had a very strong quarter, record Q1 for that segment. We did see as the quarter progressed, Especially even relative to the Q4, margins recovered, strong demand pretty much across the portfolio. We got a little bit of relief on butane and the feedstock and the feed slate there. So all of those things are going to be very Trucking as we go into the Q2, demand for all of the product lines that we have are continuing to look very good and margins are Continue to be above average.

Speaker 2

So as Michael said in the prepared comments, we do believe that We're going to get those businesses back to a more normal level, but I would expect that they're going to be above mid cycle For the foreseeable future just because we have very strong demand and even in some of those businesses we're seeing Pretty supportive supply side impacts as well. Some of our competitors in these markets are also having issues With production, so all of that is going to lead to, I think, a very strong performance for IND in the Q2. And Ken, What I'd also add specifically around Oxyfuels, if you look at the decade kind of before the pandemic, the Oxyfuels business kind of consistently delivered $400,000,000 plus of EBITDA, so a very consistent generator of earnings. Great. Thanks, Michael.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Vincent Andrews with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Speaker 3

Thank you. I'm just curious about the decision in the quarter to build cash. It looks like $300,000,000 of cash build versus $200,000,000 Stock buybacks, is there any particular thought behind that?

Speaker 2

So listen, thanks for your question Vincent. We're absolutely committed to Continuing to be very disciplined around our capital allocation and of course returning excess cash To our shareholders, it's going to be a priority. Michael, maybe you can just comment a little bit on that. Yes. I mean, listen, I mean, I'd say a couple of things.

Speaker 2

1, I think we've established a track record and a reputation of converting EBITDA into free cash flow. No need to further delever. The balance sheet is in great shape. Our growth investments are paying dividends. Working capital this year should be flattish versus last year consumed almost $600,000,000 CapEx year on year is going to be flat.

Speaker 2

We'll grow the dividend and then we're going to return So a meaningful amount of cash to our shareholders. There's no message in the Q1 that we built a little bit of cash on sheet.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Hassan Ahmed with Alembic Global. Please proceed.

Speaker 2

Good morning,

Speaker 6

Ken. Ken, a question around natural gas and ethane supply and the current sort of pricing moves that we've seen. I I mean, it just seems that there are a bunch of crosscurrents, right? Production levels seem to be rising, be it this year and beyond, But we're obviously also seeing a lot of LNG export opportunities popping up, right? I mean, if my number serves me right, I mean, we have Approximately 14 LNG export terminal approved.

Speaker 6

So how should we think about the extreme near term As well as the longer term natural gas and Airtan side of things.

Speaker 2

Good morning, Hassan. Thanks for the question. Yes. Listen, a lot of there's been a lot of talk about what's happening, especially around natural gas. And of course, ethane is going to be following that.

Speaker 2

There are very much short term impacts that are driving natural gas higher. If you look at just the energy complex, The alternative with coal is very high, so you don't see the switching, although production for natural gas is coming up. So normally this time of year, we would see a bigger drop off in natural gas pricing. I think that's delayed just a little bit because of a couple of things. You've got colder weather in the north, in the northern part of the United States, so demand is continuing to be high Yes, the higher coal prices, of course, we still are maxed out on LNG exports.

Speaker 2

Until Torees get refilled in Europe and in the U. S, which I think will be sometime in kind of mid to late summer. I think you're going to see a lot of volatility and elevate Prices for natural gas, but I do expect it to come back into a more normal level sometime in the back end of the summer. Now longer term, these Export facilities take a long time to develop and build. So while those things are being constructed, I think what you're going to see and we're seeing it Even currently, is that the production rates are going to accelerate.

Speaker 2

So you're going to see more production of natural gas coming on, more production of oil coming on. Both of those, I think, production are up about 10% for both oil and gas since a year ago. All of that is going to be supported by And generating more NGLs in the marketplace. So we still believe that longer term, the United States or the American Position around ethane advantage is going to continue to be very durable.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of P. J. Juvekar with Citi. Please proceed.

Speaker 5

Yes. Hi. Ken, some people believe that integrated polyethylene margins in the U. S. Are depressed somewhat because we can't export as much.

Speaker 5

And given that there's logistical issues, do you agree with their assessment? How does China COVID play into that? And have you seen any exports sort of improving over the last few months?

Speaker 2

Hi, P. J. Thanks for your question. Look, no doubt we've talked about the headwinds around the supply chain and of course there have been some constraints and Rail movements in the U. S.

Speaker 2

And being able to move volume offshore even since the Q4, that's not anything new. I think I may have commented on this at the 4th quarter earnings call. That volume is already sold. So it's really not weighing It's not like we can sell that twice. We are really focused on watching the demand trends.

Speaker 2

The demand continues to be very supportive. We have been successful in being able to manage our shipments of products Offshore to really minimize any impact to our sales. And I mentioned just a few minutes ago that we had a record Sales month in the month of March and we continue to see that being very robust. So what I expect to see is Pricing in polyethylene in the U. S.

Speaker 2

Started to turn back up and increase in the Q1. That's going We continue as we go into the Q2 with higher demand and I expect that we'll see some chain margin recovery in Q2.

Speaker 1

And P. J, this is Dave. I would just chime in that in March, we did see an increase in exports and it's up to Nearly 40% of production in the month of March. And so we think that trend will continue into April once we get the numbers back.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mike Sison with Wells Fargo. Please proceed.

Speaker 3

Hey, good morning, guys. Nice start to the year. There's a lot of new capacity in China still to come on stream for polyethylene, Given what you've mentioned in terms of pricing and sort of the profitability over there, do you think that Those projects will come on stream, be delayed, maybe somebody getting canceled. Any thoughts there?

Speaker 2

Good morning, Mike. Yes, we talked about this before. I do believe that that is going to slow down some of these startups And it's also going to slow down some of the decisions, especially when you look at the whole energy policy that's developing in China. All of those things are going to work to slow the development of the new capacity coming online there. Well, let's not forget, China is still a very big importer of polyethylene.

Speaker 2

And for us, what we're really focused on is watching The demand development and as that demand returns and growth in China returns, it is going to absorb that new capacity. It's just a matter of when, it's not if. And so we're watching those trends and Really focused on the demand side of the equation today.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Josh Spector with UBS. Please proceed.

Speaker 7

Yes. Hi. Good morning. I'm wondering Wondering if you could talk a little bit about your view on polypropylene supply demand. And I mean, our view is the spreads in that chain remain pretty elevated.

Speaker 7

So curious how you think about the sustainability of that over the coming quarter, years, etcetera. And with the refinery shutdown in the future, How do you think about your internal propylene balance after that? Is that something that needs to be managed or do you have options to deal with that? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Josh. Listen, polypropylene, we're actually very bullish on. The supply demand fundamentals there are very good and that's Even in the absence of a strong automotive market, we expect to see spreads increasing Coming into the Q2, we've already announced a spread increase for May. The market continues To be very tight, inventories have been coming down. And I do think that there's room to go up in polypropylene.

Speaker 2

So We're feeling very good about our position with polypropylene.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Aleksey Yefremov with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed.

Speaker 5

Thank you. Good morning, everyone.

Speaker 3

Could you talk about your PO business? What percent of this Business is on spot, this is local contracts is pass through margin with sort of Semi fixed margins. And how do you expect those margins to trend next year given the start up of your PO project in the U. S?

Speaker 2

Thanks for the question, Alexi. Listen, we propylene oxide is a core business for us and it's one where we have a very strong position in. Margins have been improving in that business, especially in the Americas. And I expect now with some of the recent announcements around the Supply side issues

Speaker 1

that we see in

Speaker 2

the industry, that's going to continue to be the case. Demand continues to be good And it's perfect timing, frankly, for us to be starting up our POTBA plant later this year. We're extremely excited about getting that asset online and ramping up production and sales in the first half of next year. Overall, I don't think we could have really timed it any better.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Kevin McCarthy with Vertical Research Partners. Please proceed.

Speaker 2

Yes. Good morning. Can you talk about the Alternative uses that you're exploring for the refinery in terms of what those are and what might drive those decisions? Hi, Kevin. Thanks for your question.

Speaker 2

Listen, like we said, the refinery site is located in a very good Position geographically on the ship channel and it's got great pipeline connections with our cracker and channel view. So there's a lot of kits there that we can look at that could be valuable in terms of if you think about circularity and some of the feedstocks That we would be using, a lot of those pyrolysis oils do need some hydrotreating and things like that. So They're fairly straightforward, but could be very synergistic with our circular ambition. We're going to take the next several years to really study where we think that could go and we think we can find some good value For that site in the mid to long term to support our strategy.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of David Begleiter with Deutsche Bank. Please proceed.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Ken, can you talk about Hyperzone? How is that Plan progressing and selling and what type of premiums, if any, you're getting on the Hypozome product?

Speaker 2

Hi, David. Thanks for the question. So we had mentioned before that we had taken a shutdown in the Q4 to be able to Some repairs to that asset and we've been continuing to work through that in the Q1. So we are still not in a position yet to be, I would say ratably selling the premium products from that asset, that's something that's going to build over the next 12 to 18 months. Look, the successful side of the equation there is that we've demonstrated the ability to make differential products They have differential product characteristics and we have been able to get a premium on some of those, but it's frankly been very small volumes until now.

Speaker 2

So we view that as some of the upside that we're looking at when we talk about stepping up, that's part of the upside that we're continuing to see in the next 12 to 18 months for the company.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Steve Richardson with Evercore ISI.

Speaker 3

Please proceed.

Speaker 5

Hi. This is Sean on for Steve. Just a quick check-in. In terms of the refinery, what might be the repurposing cost of the facility if you choose to go in a different direction? And then also with an estimated $200,000,000 of repurchases for this quarter, what might be some of the cadence moving forward for Repurchases in light of the strong cash flow generation.

Speaker 5

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Sean. I'll take the first question and then I'll let Michael take the second. So listen, it's way too early for us to be talking about any kind of repurposing costs around the refinery site. The focus for now is that we're going to operate that asset safely and reliably. Of course, we're going to keep a separate team that's going to be looking at some of the options for But our priority right now is going to be really to stay focused on taking advantage of what we see in the marketplace today And really achieving a great result there and operating the assets safely.

Speaker 2

So Michael, you want to take the next question? Yes, sure. Thanks, Ken. While I probably won't give guidance on the level of share repurchase activity that we intend to execute at the balance of the year, What I can say is, we expect to generate a lot of free cash flow. It's not our intention to build Any meaningful cash balances on sheet, therefore, the expectation is that you can expect that we're going to return No copious amounts of free cash flow to our investors.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Arun Viswanathan with RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed.

Speaker 3

Great. Thanks for taking my questions. So yes, I guess a lot of questions have been asked around polyethylene. So maybe I'll ask a question on IND and one on APS. So for IND, I think earnings in the past has been around since point 1.

Speaker 3

It looks like you're headed to maybe The 1.6 level or so, and I think you mentioned that as mid cycle in the past. So is that still what you're thinking with the recovery in And then similarly with APS, what's it going to take to get maybe to $800,000,000 EBITDA level? Is that a more serious recovery In the automotive area, thanks.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Arun. So yes, for IND, I mentioned before, we are expecting to be above mid cycle for that business. So I would say, I would expect to be above the numbers that you're thinking about would be where we're at. For sure, we've got very strong tailwinds. And I had mentioned we had a record Q1.

Speaker 2

So coming into the Q2 with demand even improving, we're very optimistic Heading into the second half of the year or the second quarter and going even into the second half of the year. Now for APS, one of the biggest things that we need to see there, We've been able to successfully maintain margins and continue to improve on margins. The volume equation is what's really going to be impactful for that business. So as automotive comes back and we're able to really refill That pipeline and get the demand side up, that's going to be what's going to drive our results.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Blair with Tudor, Pickering, Holt and Company. Please proceed.

Speaker 5

Hey, good morning. I know you're selling or you're closing the refinery at the end of 'twenty three, but right now, our refining margins are pretty phenomenal, Looking at $30 Gulf Coast cracks, dollars 70 diesel cracks, how should we think about your margin Sure potential in Q2. Are you going to be able to capture these pretty phenomenal numbers? Or Is there reason to be

Speaker 3

cautious on just overall margin capture?

Speaker 2

Thanks, Matthew, for the question. Listen, for refining, Yes, we're seeing very strong margins. The Via 211 today is over $60 very strong diesel cracks, Gasoline tracked strongest since 2015, inventories are low. So we're operating the asset Very well. Very high utilization rates.

Speaker 2

So to answer your question just very shortly, yes, we expect to be able to capture that margin uplift.

Operator

Thank you. I am showing that there are no further questions. I will turn it back to Mr. Lane for closing comments.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Alex, and thanks again everyone for your questions and interest in our company. Before we close the call, I want to emphasize the excitement that's building here at LyondellBasell around our future. We are generating resilient results And we're going to be welcoming our new CEO, Peter Vanacker in May, and we have our world class POTBA assets starting up later this year. There is a lot to look forward to, and we're excited about what lies ahead. We hope you'll join us in July as we update you on our Q2 results, And I wish you all a great weekend.

Speaker 2

Please stay safe.

Operator

This concludes today's conference and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation and have a wonderful day.

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