Metropolitan Bank Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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October 20, 2023

There are 6 speakers on the call.

Operator

Welcome to Metropolitan Commercial Bank's Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. Hosting the call today from Metropolitan Commercial Bank are Mark DeFazio, President and Chief Executive Officer and Greg Siegrist, Executive Vice President and Chief And the floor will be open for your questions following the prepared remarks. We ask that you please pick up your handset to allow optimal sound quality. During today's presentation, reference will be made to the company's earnings release and investor presentation, copies of which are available at mcbankny.com. Today's presentation may include forward looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially.

Operator

Please refer to the company's notices regarding forward looking and non GAAP measures that appear in the earnings release. It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to Mark DeFazio, President and Chief Executive Officer. You may begin.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Shelby, and good morning and thank you all for joining our Q3 earnings call. I will be brief today, because I'd like to leave more time for Q and A. To get started, I am pleased with MCB's Q3 year to date results. To say the last 9 months have been challenging is an understatement. However, as you can see, MCB has been able to navigate through these challenging times, primarily because we were as prepared as we can be for them.

Speaker 1

Along with our ability to grow alongside of these challenges, Year to date, we have experienced reasonable balance sheet growth, funded by new core deposits, while maintaining our underwriting and pricing disciplines. All deposit verticals contributed to our growth in liquidity as well as early contributions from Our latest initiatives in 1031, title and EB-five lines. Excess liquidity this quarter also allowed us We are confident we will see further reductions of these borrowings over the coming quarters. We are also confident that each of our Positive verticals will continue to set us aside from others and maintain MCB as a core funded institution. We are working on a number of other deposit and fee income initiatives, which we will start discussing in the coming months and are confident They will all add to our liquidity arsenal, which will not only stave off margin compression, but will start to expand it.

Speaker 1

Finally, as many of you may have seen online last night, we issued a press release related to the settlement With the Federal Reserve and the New York State Department of Financial Services pertaining to a matter from March 2020, The amount of the fine has been fully reserved for and enhancements to our processes and procedures have been well underway for some time. I will now turn the call over to Greg for more detail.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Mark, and good morning, everyone. We are pleased to report strong third Net interest income remained steady at $53,600,000 Significant expansion in total interest income was driven both by strong loan growth through the 1st 9 months of the year as well as the impact of 2 rate increases since May of 2023. While funding costs have largely offset This increase in the quarter, we were able to substantially pay down borrowings late in the quarter and remain confident in our ability to drive lower cost deposits 2024 and beyond. MCB saw deposit growth across all verticals as Mark had mentioned with total deposit verticals increasing $291,000,000 or nearly 6% despite the challenges of an evolving rate environment and its influence on customers. Net inflows were particularly strong for retail deposits, including those with loan customers, which collectively were up $188,000,000 reflecting growth from both existing and new customers.

Speaker 2

We did see outflows of $58,000,000 representing the return of remaining corporate and reserve deposits with former crypto clients. For additional color, net of those outflows, non interest bearing deposits increased in the quarter by $75,000,000 or just over 4%. We had a very strong quarter for lending with net loan growth of $205,000,000 or 4% on $333,000,000 of loan Bigger picture, year to date net loan growth of $514,000,000 has been fully funded by $738,000,000 of net inflows from our deposit verticals. The excess liquidity in the quarter has been used to reduce borrowings. New loan production came in at an average yield of 8.7% versus a 2nd quarter portfolio yield of 6.54%, which showcases MCB's pricing discipline and the resilience of the lending franchise.

Speaker 2

There was 17 basis points of In the short run, there are several factors that give comfort that we are at or very near the inflection point for NIM, assuming of course a stable rate environment. Loan pricing discipline has been maintained, which is evident in our new production yields. We do expect to see the continued repricing of the loan book, which is a relatively short duration book. Borrowings have been substantially paid down. And while that is apparent in the spot balance sheets, the average balance sheet for 3rd quarter shows we have incurred interest expense on a much higher average balance for borrowed funds.

Speaker 2

We do expect to see the benefit of those reduced borrowings to benefit NIM and more importantly P and L as we move forward. We entered the year with $250,000,000 in borrowings and as we've said for the past few quarters, We do expect to reduce borrowings close to this level by year end. We did see an opportunity late in the Q3 to lock in funding costs on $300,000,000 of FHLB borrowings using a pay fixed swap at an average rate of approximately 5% versus the 3rd quarter average borrowing rate of 5.66 That benefit will start to come into NIM and P and L in the 4th quarter. The goal would be to exit 2023 with only The $300,000,000 of hedged FHLB borrowings remaining on the balance sheet. And as Mark has already mentioned, we expect MCB's newest deposit verticals to provide a funding advantage well into the future.

Speaker 2

Touching briefly on credit, asset quality remains strong. Strong loan growth drove credit provisioning in the quarter, which was partially offset by improvement in the economic forecast underlying our CECL model. Total non interest income was down approximately $1,300,000 from the prior linked quarter due largely to the exit from crypto. We were particularly pleased However, to see corporate disbursement client revenues continue to scale with revenues up 22% from the prior linked quarter and up 104% from the prior year quarter. Non interest expense in the quarter did benefit from the settlement reserve related relief of $3,000,000 Legal fees came down substantially from the prior quarter, but remained elevated by roughly $600,000 which we would expect to drop out of the run rate prospectively.

Speaker 2

Lastly, the increase in comp and benefits reflects our continued investment in human capital. This includes the increase in FTEs during 2023, many of whom were onboarded in the second and third quarters and is in line with increased profitability. There was a discrete tax benefit of approximately $1,800,000 in the quarter from the conversion of stock awards. Going forward, we would expect the effective tax rate to be in the range of 31% to 32% excluding discrete items. And I will now turn the call back to Shelby for Q and A.

Operator

Thank you. The floor is now open for questions. We'll take our first question from Nick Cacciori with Haase Group. Your line is open.

Speaker 1

Good morning, everyone. Good morning, Nick. I wanted to start on

Speaker 3

the expense front. Nice to see a material reduction in the professional fees this quarter. Given the resolution of the regulatory issues, Is it your expectation that this line continues to normalize? I heard that $600,000 you expect to drop out in the 3rd quarter or the 4th quarter, but is there more

Speaker 2

I wouldn't expect any upward movement on the professional fee line Nick over the next couple of quarters particularly from a core perspective. I think legal expense will settle out largely in the Q4, but maybe into the Q1 just given some timing. Given the announcement yesterday, I think You'd still expect to see some in the quarter. Longer term though, I mean, we've talked for many quarters and many years now about investments we make in the business. And that's not just Human Capital, which I mentioned in my prepared remarks, but also investments in technology and our digital strategies.

Speaker 2

So we did announce the Finsley partnership earlier this week. So I think people have seen that. There's over the last several quarters been some spend in that line related to our digital initiatives. I think you're going to continue to see that. And as we get through the budget process and Mark and team have a chance To finalize the plans around, I think you'll get more guidance in the Q1 in January, I should say, around what that looks like.

Speaker 2

And again, that's non core to me. But and I think where you're kind of probably going with this is what should you expect from a core run rate perspective on expenses. And I think we've been pretty consistent as we've talked over the last couple of years. We can really drive core efficiency ratio in the 40s. Right now, if you did look at it on a core basis and stripped out legal fees in particular and some of the technology spend, I think you'd see us in the high 40s.

Speaker 2

I think the expectation would be to continue driving that lower as we go through time. And the investments we're making in this quarter particularly in people it helps to do that. There's client facing And it's the team's working hard. And as we've seen over the last couple of years, we typically see a pretty quick return on those types of investments, Probably more than you asked for in the question Nick, but I thought I'd give it $2 at once.

Speaker 3

No. That's great color. I appreciate it. I know we're in the early innings and you touched on it briefly in your opening remarks. But Could you update us on your newest deposit verticals 1031, Title, EB5, etcetera?

Speaker 1

They're well on their way. The infrastructure setting those 2 specifically with 1031 we can start with that. There are 2 Well, 3 actually technologies that we have to integrate in order to be very competitive in that Space and we're well on our way. We have our IT team working with our 1031 team in implementing these new technologies. So We would expect we had we didn't expect much out of 1031 or 85 in 2023.

Speaker 2

These were

Speaker 1

2024 big initiatives for us. So we'll be fully prepared and fully in the market for 1031 and Title in 2024 early January and EB5 also there's a lot that goes behind It's a complicated business from a documentation perspective, policies, procedures and getting out into the marketplace. So They're fully stood up and so we expect it to have a good run rate in 2024 and beyond.

Speaker 3

Fantastic. And then loan growth was strong again this quarter. Are pipelines at similar levels relative to the previous quarter?

Speaker 2

Yes, I would say so, yes. Yes, pipeline remains robust.

Speaker 3

Fantastic. Thank you for taking my questions.

Speaker 2

Nick, thank you and thanks for joining.

Operator

And we'll take our next question from Chris O'Connell with KBW. Your line is open.

Speaker 4

Hey, good morning.

Speaker 2

Good morning, Chris.

Speaker 4

So wanted to follow-up on that last question And regarding loan growth and overall balance sheet growth, it sounds like pipelines on the deposit side and the loan side remain full. Do you expect going forward on the deposit side that there's any kind of remaining core Non interest bearing deposit mix shift remaining or that the growth from these new deposit verticals Can offset any kind of related mix shift on a go forward basis?

Speaker 2

Well, in the quarter Chris, I mean, we're really pleased to see in the quarter the existing verticals all contributed. That was largely it's a lot of existing clients. It was also new clients for Clean Retail and with our lending clients. Importantly though, I mean, we're really focused on the mix side. The mix I'm thinking I'm focused on the most is That DDA versus interest bearing mix.

Speaker 2

And with the $75,000,000 of DDA growth in the quarter, that's a direct reflection of how hard the teams are working, right? They get it and they're really focused Working with our clients and bringing in the operating account. So I think looking ahead, I really think that the mix is going to be pretty consistent. I would expect to see all deposit Verticals continuing to contribute. The teams are working really hard.

Speaker 2

I'd like to see that DDA mix of existing verticals continue to scale as well. And then the new verticals EB-five and Thailand escrow 1031 that to me I mean that's a long runway for those just continue to scale and scope. And I mean they contributed this quarter. They've contributed for the last two quarters actually. They're going to continue to contribute for quarter and beyond.

Speaker 2

But it's you're really going to see those verticals Scale in the latter half of next year. And that to me is just the real exciting part here in terms of what you're going to see from a mix shift perspective that's going to impact that cost of funds over time.

Speaker 4

Yes. And for the new verticals and the deposit production coming on there, any sense even in general terms what The blended costs of the new deposit pipelines are coming on that?

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean, as you know, we're not going to talk about pricing in specific verticals, Except I would say for EB5 in particular, it's certainly on a blended basis inside of our current total cost of deposits. So That's going to give you some comfort that as we continue to put on new production yield loans, which frankly right now are over 9% what we see in the pipeline, going to see healthy loan yields coming on, the asset side repricing, but you're going to see those newer deposits starting to come in inside of our current Funding pace and that's a good place to be.

Speaker 1

Got

Speaker 4

it. I guess said another way, I mean, interest bearing deposit costs All right. Now at 4.10, how much higher do you think that those will go over the next 2 or 3 quarters?

Speaker 2

My crystal ball is broken Chris. I mean I think you're still going to see I think you've already largely seen the pull through effect of rate impacts at this point. You might see a little bit more impact in the 3rd in the 4th quarter in October potentially. But I would actually expect to see that number starting to hold steady, Particularly if you think we're through the rate hike cycle, right? We are liability sensitive, state that as it is.

Speaker 2

But over the next two quarters assuming the rate hikes kind of settle out, I think we're pretty close to the high end of that number.

Speaker 4

Got it. And just given that outlook and some of the borrowing dynamics that you discussed in the prepared remarks, How do you see the NIM progressing near term into the Q4 and over the next Several quarters if the rate environment kind of remains steady?

Speaker 2

Yes. I really truly feel we might have the inflection point in the Q3 on NIM. Chris, I think that's going to go back to your kind of your embedded last question, which is, is there any upward pressure on the existing Interest bearing deposits side, I'm not seeing it right now. I would expect us frankly to start that inflection point, if not already then into the Q4. You might see some modest Uplift in the Q4 in NIM.

Speaker 2

But by the time we get into the Q1 next year, again combination of a more stable rate environment and the connotation that would have on our funding cost Combined with just the ability to continue to reprice the asset side, you'll start to see that uplift certainly by the Q1 at the latest.

Speaker 4

Got it. And on the GPG pipeline, I know you guys announced that partnership and have some things that You look to update on Hassan as we get into 2024. But how do you see the GPG fees Trending into the 4th quarter, should we expect those to be up on a quarter over quarter basis?

Speaker 2

I would still expect to see GPG revenues trending as they have historically Chris. If you call that 15%, 20%, whatever range you're looking at historically, I'm not seeing anything I would say otherwise. I mean, we're obviously still continuing to focus on the quality clients we want to have in the portfolio there. And I think As you know though anybody we onboard now it's really you're not going to see any substantial revenue generation fee generation for at least 12 to 18 months. It takes some time to get Process ramped up, but just with the existing portfolio clients we've got, you're starting to see I called out in my prepared remarks, Corporate disbursement clients, you're starting to see some of those partners really hit their stride.

Speaker 2

And as they're building out their client base, it's filtering through. But I would say continue to look at the historic run rate. I think that's a good place to start.

Speaker 4

Got it. And then just lastly on the consent order and the impact going forward, obviously the actual monetary Related to that are needed on a go forward basis?

Speaker 1

I think I don't think there's any more additional internal investments. We have been working on improving the policies and procedures as I mentioned in my prepared remarks. So There will be no incremental increase in costs associated with addressing the concerns of the regulators. We may have some outside validation done through some consulting work to validate what we have done. But We're in a pretty good shape to address the concerns of the regulators.

Speaker 4

Great. That's all I had. Thank you for taking my questions.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Chris.

Operator

And we'll take our last question from Alex Lau with JPMorgan. Your line is

Speaker 5

open. Hi. Good morning, everyone.

Speaker 1

Good morning, everyone.

Speaker 5

Just to follow-up on the previous topic, Can you walk through the 2 consent orders and how you expect to respond to these if this changes how you approach the GPG business at all? Thanks.

Speaker 1

Well, the consent orders are pretty straightforward. They're specific to different areas of Compliance oversight specifically for the consumer facing part of GPG. And we have been addressing as you know this is a 2020 matter. So we have been addressing and working alongside very productively with our regulators. So we have a very good relationship with the regulators, Open communication, good transparency.

Speaker 1

They've had some very good ideas and some suggestions on how to address These type of business relationships you saw recently there was joint agency guidance that came out on 3rd party Oversight for these types of relationships, so that's been very helpful. And we'll address them 1 by 1. It's no different than findings in any report of exam. We'll address them. We'll evaluate them.

Speaker 1

We'll have discussions with the regulators and then we will Make the changes necessary. We will likely get some of the changes looked at by outside companies to validate And then we'll present them to the regulators for their review and consideration. But we don't find it to be a heavy lift. We've addressed many of these already Because this was in a very acute challenge in March of 2020 specifically because of the global pandemic and the Circumstances around that. But no, we're in a good place and we have good dialogue with the regulators on this.

Speaker 1

Yes.

Speaker 2

And the only thing I would add Alex is, I mean, we from an investment Capital, we've almost doubled the number of folks in that the control function since that time, since early 2020. And I think that speaks to Mark's point in terms of The level of focus on this internally since that time.

Speaker 5

Thanks guys. And just a follow-up to that, does this Impact the near term growth potential of the GPG business with regards to gathering deposits and fee income at that historical growth pace?

Speaker 1

I don't think so. As I sort of signaled many times over the last several quarters, We're repositioning and looking primarily at more B2B business in GPG as it relates to the payment space And not really looking to expand the consumer side of the business. So no, we don't expect any interruption

Speaker 5

Thank you. And my last question was on the non Performing loans, there's a tick up in the quarter. Can you share some color on what that loan was? And also maybe just refresh us on the health of the existing non performer? Thanks.

Speaker 1

Working backwards, we are still going through the foreclosure process on that one loan that's in Mission, Kansas And we're still fairly optimistic on a positive outcome likely to be a 2024 event. As it relates to the tick up, it was 2 small loans actually with the same principal, I think roughly $3,500,000 each. We have no concerns at all on at least half of it, the one loan at 3,500,000 The other loan we are highly confident will get paid $0.0100 on the dollar. So No concerns at all. And overall the health of the book is very good.

Speaker 1

Yes. I'm staying the obvious. The non performing the ratio there is still incredibly low even with that modest

Speaker 5

Appreciate it. Thanks for taking my questions.

Speaker 2

Yeah. And for Mark I just want to thank Mark for the time I've spent here at MCB. It's a remarkable franchise. It's an incredible team. So Mark, thank you to you.

Speaker 2

Thank you to the Board. I really enjoyed working here and work Yes.

Speaker 1

And we feel the same, Greg, and we wish you all the best in your new initiatives. And hopefully, we'll keep in touch and work Together as well again as well.

Speaker 2

That's what we're all about. And Chris and Alex, it's been a pleasure working with you guys the last couple of years. And Nick, sorry for the timing on it. It's

Operator

And this This concludes the allotted time for questions. I would like to turn the call over to Mark DiFazio for any additional or closing remarks.

Speaker 1

I have nothing other than thank you again Thank you for your support and interest in MCB. And as I've said many times, we are here and we're available to Anybody, any investor or analyst who would like to chat with us offline, have a nice day.

Operator

This does conclude today's conference call and webcast. A webcast archive of this call can be found at www.mcbankny.com. Please disconnect your line at this time and have a wonderful day.

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