Flowserve Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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October 26, 2023

There are 10 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Third Quarter 2023 Flowserve Corporation Earnings Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Jay Roush, Vice President, Investor Relations and Treasurer. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Melinda, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining our conference call to discuss Flowserve's Q3 2023 Financial Results. On the call with me today are Scott Rowe, Flowserve's President and Chief Executive Officer and Amy Schwetz, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Following our prepared comments, we will open the call As a reminder, this event is being webcast and an audio replay will be available. Please note that our earnings materials due and this call will include non GAAP measures and contain forward looking statements.

Speaker 1

These statements are based upon forecasts, expectations and other information available to management as of October 26, 2023 and may involve risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond the company's control. We encourage you to review our Safe Harbor disclosures as well as the reconciliation of our non GAAP measures to our reported results, both of which are included in our press release and earnings presentation and are accessible on our website in the Investor Relations section. I would now like to turn the call over to Scott Rowe, Flowserve's President and Chief Executive Officer for his prepared comments.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Jay, and good morning, everyone. It was great to see so many of you in person at our Analyst Day a few weeks ago in New York City, We outlined our 20 27 financial targets and our strategies to achieve them. We discussed our new operating model and how it has enabled the company to improve our Speed, accountability and cost efficiency in our operations. We also highlighted our belief that the intersection of energy security And Energy Transition has Flowserve well positioned for accelerated growth driven by the success of our 3 d strategy, which will provide further updates and progress on today. For anyone who hasn't reviewed the Analyst Day materials, I'd encourage you to access them on our website In the Investor Relations section.

Speaker 2

Let's now turn to the quarter. I'm extremely pleased with the continued strong operating performance We demonstrated again this quarter. This performance drove admirable financial results, including the adjusted earnings per share of $0.50 Which exceeded our internal expectations. Our execution continued to improve during the quarter, evidenced by our highest quarterly revenue since 2015, With an adjusted gross margin of nearly 30% despite the higher mix of original equipment revenue. Our markets remain healthy and supportive and we delivered over $1,000,000,000 in bookings for the 7th consecutive quarter.

Speaker 2

With a book to bill of nearly one times, we largely maintained our near record backlog of $2,800,000,000 This backlog provides Provided us the confidence to raise our full year 2023 revenue and adjusted EPS targets for the 3rd consecutive quarter this year. While operating performance was certainly strong in the 3rd quarter, Both our reported and adjusted earnings per share were tempered by a discrete $10,700,000 non cash accrual related to the annual assessment of certain long term liabilities. This expense had a $0.06 impact in the quarter for both reported And adjusted earnings per share. Nevertheless, we continue to build on the momentum established late last year. We delivered our 4th Quarter of year over year revenue and earnings growth.

Speaker 2

We also took significant actions during the quarter that largely completed our new operating model Intended to drive greater speed and accountability within the organization. We have now exceeded the $50,000,000 annualized cost reduction goal we set out Late last year, which will largely be reflected in the 2024 results. More importantly, We are already realizing benefits from the new operating model with a more efficient and effective operating platform. The 7 business units within our two segments are driving an improved focus on their targeted markets that enable better product positioning, While the improved functional support provides the framework and processes to ensure greater operational effectiveness, I'm confident that the new operating model will help drive our expectations for accelerated growth and strong financial performance. During the Q3, we generated bookings of nearly $1,100,000,000 compared to last year's Q3, which The $210,000,000 referral award, our bookings this year were driven primarily by smaller project awards in the $5,000,000 to $10,000,000 range With strong aftermarket and MRO work across all regions.

Speaker 2

Over our awards this quarter, only one project exceeded the $20,000,000 level at roughly $40,000,000 in size. As always, predicting project award timing is difficult and in the 3rd quarter, we saw Several promising opportunities move out of the quarter and are now likely to book in the Q4. Our project funnel has grown year over year And we have line of sight to a number of meaningful larger projects that we expect to be awarded over the next several quarters. For instance, we see significant larger project opportunities on the horizon in the Middle East for our traditional oil and gas and petrochemical markets. The improved project outlook combined with our strong backlog enable us to remain disciplined in the work that we pursue.

Speaker 2

Our project pursuit process requires the margin expectations that we deserve given the risk and effort on these large projects. This approach has proven successful for us to date as we continue to increase the gross margin levels of project work in our backlog. And we intend to remain on this trajectory in coming quarters as we aim for continued gross margin progression. In line with our 3 d strategy, we continue to capitalize on growing investments in new energy initiatives such as hydrogen and carbon capture, While traditional markets remain healthy. In the Q3, 3 d bookings represented roughly 26% of our total awards, Including substantial new energy awards where we are on track to exceed $200,000,000 for the year, a near 50% increase over 2022.

Speaker 2

The nuclear and LNG markets are also key to our 3 d strategy given the strong levels of expected growth. While we didn't see any large projects in these categories In the Q3, we booked a healthy amount of smaller awards as well as significant ongoing MRO in aftermarket work. Turning to our aftermarket business. Most of our customers' facilities remain highly utilized and are focused on safety, Uptime, Efficiency and Emissions Reductions. Flowserve remains well suited to fill these needs.

Speaker 2

In the Q3, we generated over $580,000,000 Aftermarket bookings, marking the 8th consecutive quarter exceeding the $500,000,000 plus threshold. We see this Our market outlook remains positive. We continue to believe we are in the early years of a multiple year upcycle. We haven't seen any indication of a slowdown in our served markets. We continue to expect the full year book to bill above 1, which will maintain our backlog and support 2024 growth.

Speaker 2

Our project funnel remains above last year's Q3 level and has increased 7% since the beginning of the year. We also expect that both aftermarket and MRO activity levels will remain strong into 2024 and beyond. Flowserve is well situated to capitalize on energy security and energy transition. These global themes are expected to continue driving significant for decades to come and our 3 d strategy has Flowserve well positioned to drive accelerated growth. Additionally, our exposure to later cycle Project investment by industries that have substantially underspent over a 3 year period further supports our expectation for multiyear growth.

Speaker 2

Let me now turn the call over to Amy to address our Q3 financial results in greater detail.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Scott, and good morning, everyone. Reviewing our financial results in greater detail, I'll start by reiterating how pleased we are with our operational performance and backlog conversion, both of which help drive results above our expectations for the Q3. We generated our highest quarterly sales level in nearly 8 years at $1,100,000,000 and from that, we produced adjusted earnings per share of $0.50 The annual actuarial assessment of certain long term liabilities slightly muted our results that would have otherwise been even stronger. This accrual resulted in a $10,700,000 non cash expense to SG and A, reducing both our reported and adjusted earnings per share by roughly 0 point 0 $6 Based on our strong year to date performance and continued execution, we raised our revenue and adjusted Guidance Ranges for the 3rd Consecutive Quarter. This confidence comes from the improved and consistent Operating performance of both segments, ongoing supportive end markets and the early benefits of our new organizational design.

Speaker 3

3rd quarter reported earnings per share were $0.35 which includes $0.15 of net adjusted expenses, Primarily realignment charges and below the line FX impact, but this was partially offset by the release of tax valuation allowance benefits. Revenue in the 3rd quarter increased over 25% from the prior year, representing growth in nearly all aspects of the business. Original equipment and aftermarket revenues increased 28% and 23%, respectively, compared to the prior year. At the segment level, FPD's original equipment sales were particularly buoyant, delivering 45% year over year growth, While FCD contributed a solid 14% increase. While we maintain a near record aftermarket backlog at over $1,000,000,000 3rd quarter aftermarket revenues increased markedly compared to prior year as well at 28% 22% in FCD All of our regions contributed double digit sales growth as well with notable year over year improvement in the Middle East and Latin America and North America at 51%, 43% and 24%, respectively.

Speaker 3

Europe and Asia also delivered with substantial increases of 18% 14%, respectively. Shifting to margins, we generated significant year over year improvement, reflecting the traction we've generated Our adjusted gross margin increased 230 basis points year over year to 29.7%. Additional factors for the improvement include our price increases initiated over the last year, an improved supply chain environment and reduced frictional costs. Partially offsetting these factors, however, were headwinds from the modest mix shift Resulting from increased original equipment work, including some shipments of lower margin of original equipment work from backlog That was booked in challenging market conditions as well as increased performance based compensation accruals. While we are pleased with our operating progress and year to date adjusted gross margin of 30.1%, This is a foundational level we intend to further improve upon.

Speaker 3

As you heard at our Analyst Day last month, we have defined a clear path to drive margin expansion through the combination of the new organizational design and our focus on operational excellence We have consistently increased the margin in our backlog over the past year as visibility to end markets and our bookings levels have steadily improved. Additionally, the early benefits of our new organizational model enabled us to modestly exceed our $50,000,000 annualized cost reduction goal, Where roughly 60% of the savings identified in action will benefit the cost of goods sold line. On a reported basis, 3rd quarter gross margins increased 160 basis points to 29%. Where in addition to the previously discussed items, the quarter was impacted by increased realignment charges of $7,600,000 versus the prior year. 3rd quarter adjusted SG and A increased $11,000,000 to $235,000,000 compared to last year.

Speaker 3

The increase was primarily due to higher performance based incentive accruals of $11,000,000 as well as a $3,000,000 increase in the annual true up As a percent of sales, adjusted SG and A decreased 4 20 basis points to 21.4 percent As we successfully leveraged higher revenues and realized some early benefits from our 2023 cost out plan. As we grow our revenues and maintain our cost focus, including benefits from the organizational redesign, We would expect to deliver results even better than these levels in the future. On a reported basis, 3rd quarter SG and A increased year over year by $31,000,000 to $252,000,000 In addition to the items just mentioned, our reported amount also includes a $21,000,000 increase in adjusted items, primarily due to a $15,000,000 increase in realignment expenses as we executed the cost reduction program and remaining expenses Related to pursuing the Volant transaction. Despite the dollar increase year over year, Reported SG and A as a percent of sales declined 2 30 basis points to 23%. Our 3rd quarter adjusted operating margin increased 630 basis points to 8.7%, Reflecting our strong operational performance, lower frictional costs and ongoing SG and A controls, Partially offset by the actuarial expense at corporate, which impacted our margin level this quarter by approximately 100 basis points.

Speaker 3

By segment, FCD and FPD delivered momentum building results with adjusted segment operating margins 14.7% and 12.3%, respectively. These margins represent year over year increases at 420 and 630 basis points, respectively. 3rd quarter reported operating margin increased 360 basis points year over year to 6.4%, where significant operating leverage and operational execution Was partially offset by the $28,000,000 increase in adjusted items versus prior year. Our adjusted tax rate was 11.2% in the 3rd quarter and lower than our full year guidance range. This outcome was achieved primarily due to the geographical mix of income and the timing related to certain foreign tax credits.

Speaker 3

Our reported rate was even lower. In fact, it was negative due to a $13,000,000 valuation allowance Benefit which we excluded from our adjusted results. Year to date, our adjusted tax rate of 18.3% at approximately 20%. Turning to cash flow. We are pleased with our year to date operating cash flow of $131,000,000 which represents a $241,000,000 improvement over prior year.

Speaker 3

In addition to delivering higher earnings, we reduced cash used for working capital by over $150,000,000 despite growing revenue and our significant backlog. 3rd quarter operating cash flow of $81,000,000 was also driven primarily by improved Earnings and Working Capital Performance. We have now delivered positive operating cash flow in each quarter this year, demonstrating our focus Beginning late last year to smooth out some seasonality and improve our cadence throughout the year. Even with the significant increase in revenues we've delivered in 2023, I am pleased that accounts receivable is a year to date modest source of reflecting an $80,000,000 improvement compared to prior year. Our collection efforts have been strong, Inventory, including contract assets and liabilities, has also contributed to our working capital progress As we reduced the cash used by $21,000,000 bringing the year to date improvement up to $38,000,000 As a percent of sales, primary working capital supporting our near record backlog improved 170 basis points versus prior year to 30.5% and declined sequentially 140 basis points as well.

Speaker 3

We will remain focused on reducing our working capital investment to a level well below 30% of sales To our 25% to 27% targets outlined at the Analyst Day, which we expect to achieve through supply chain improvements and are more consistent and predictable execution. Significant uses of cash in the 3rd quarter included $26,000,000 in dividends, $16,000,000 in capital expenditures and a $10,000,000 term loan debt reduction payment. While we achieved a nearly $240,000,000 improvement in free cash flow in 2023 compared prior year. We still expect to see more come in the traditional seasonally robust 4th quarter. Turning to our outlook for the Q4.

Speaker 3

We expect to build on our operating momentum and deliver solid quarterly revenue and adjusted earnings Which results in our full year revenue guidance range of 18% to 19%, with full year adjusted earnings per share of $1.95 to $2.05 At the midpoint, our full year adjusted earnings guidance represents an 80% increase over We expect our markets to remain active, resulting in a full year book to bill greater than 1, increasing our year over year backlog to support 2024 Growth. Our adjusted targets exclude identified realignment expenses of approximately $55,000,000 as well as potential items that may occur during the year such as below the line currency effects and the impact of other discrete items. Including the identified realignment spending and our other adjustments year to date, We expect our reported EPS in the range of $1.40 to 1.50 As I highlighted at our Analyst Day, we have a preliminary 2024 outlook that supports mid single digit revenue growth, Adjusted operating margin improvement of approximately 100 basis points and adjusted EPS growth of 20% to 25%. This outcome would be meaningful progress and provide confidence on the path to achieving our longer term goals. Our early view is based on entering 2024 with higher quality backlog and building on our 2023 performance With the new organizational model fully in place and designed to increase our speed, accountability and reduce costs.

Speaker 3

As usual, we plan to initiate our official guidance in early 2024. Until then, we believe that we have built a rock solid foundation this year and are focused on the right initiatives to drive growth and margin Our 2027 goals of $5,000,000,000 plus in organic revenue with adjusted operating margins in the 14% to 16% range to drive adjusted earnings over $4 per share. Let me now return the call over to Scott.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Amy. Let me now add a few comments on the termination of our previously announced acquisition of Valan. We announced our intent to acquire Belen in February of this year. We obtained all the required regulatory approvals in a timely manner, Except the approval from the French government, while we engaged in a constructive process to address all of their concerns, the French Ministry of Economy as part of its foreign direct investment review process, ultimately rejected the planned acquisition. We are extremely disappointed in the outcome from the French government.

Speaker 2

Well, we believe the acquisition would have provided numerous benefits for both companies and our stakeholders. However, the termination Does not change our confidence in nor the trajectory of our 3 d growth strategy. This includes a programmatic M and A approach, which targets 3 d strategy leverages our existing scale, provides confidence in our ability to integrate and generates returns well above our cost of capital. As we have demonstrated over the past 2 years, our 3 d strategy continues to drive accelerated bookings growth, proving that it is the right approach at the right time. We will continue to invest both organically and inorganically in products to support this strategy.

Speaker 2

Looking at each of the pillars of the 3Ds, I will start with diversification. We believe the markets and products we are focused on will deliver growth in Our vacuum pump products, which are a significant component of the diversification pillar, Have been delivering enhanced bookings growth over a variety of applications and industries in the last few years. In the Q3, we were selected to supply dry vacuum pumps for a new advanced semiconductor manufacturing facility in the U. S. Upon completion, the site will manufacture products for a number of applications, including 5 gs networking and processing power to support the enhanced demand from From a decarbonization perspective, our bookings remain strong, driven in part by nuclear and LNG activity.

Speaker 2

We continue to be excited about the outlook for the nuclear industry where Flowserve has a broad portfolio of products. Developed countries with older nuclear facilities are currently focused on extending the life of these assets. While emerging regions like India Eastern Europe have substantial plans for new nuclear facilities to provide clean and reliable energy. Another key driver in the decarbonization pillar is energy transition, where Flowserve was recently selected to supply pumps and valves The complex is expected to supply clean hydrogen and nitrogen to a blue ammonia plant, while capturing 1,700,000 metric tons of CO2 emissions annually. Lastly, on digitization.

Speaker 2

We believe our ability to Digitize our offering positions Flowserve to move up the value chain from products and services to become more of a solutions provider to our customers. Our offering is growing at twice the rate it did last year and we now have over 75 customer facilities utilizing Red Raven technology With over 2,000 instrumented assets supporting our customers with monitoring, predictive capabilities and full loop optimization. Bolsak recently partnered with a Scottish beverage producer instrumenting over 100 assets To increase reliability, efficiency and uptime, we are gaining traction across a variety of targeted industries And we are encouraged to see existing customers renew and expand these contracts. Overall, our focus remains on profitably converting our near record $2,800,000,000 backlog, while generating outsized growth to the 3 d strategy. We intend to achieve the 2027 financial goals we shared at our Analyst Day, including to grow revenues at a 5% CAGR over the period, Expand adjusting operating margins to 14% to 16% and generate adjusted earnings per share of $4 We are confident that we with ongoing strength in our end markets, combined with our 3 d strategy that we can drive revenue growth And that the new operating model combined with the successful implementation of our operational excellence program and improved product management processes Will help deliver on our margin expansion targets.

Speaker 2

Together, these initiatives will enable Flowserve to deliver long term value for our customers, Associates and shareholders. In closing, I want to thank our associates for their hard work and dedication in the quarter And for embracing our new operating model to drive improved execution, speed and accountability. The 3 gs strategy is working and we are well positioned to capitalize on the strong market environment. I am confident in our ability to maintain our operating momentum and deliver further improvement as we close out the year and turn the quarter into 2024. Operator, this concludes our prepared remarks and we'd now like to open the call to questions.

Operator

Thank And we'll pause just briefly to assemble our queue. And we go to our first question from Andy Kaplowitz with Citigroup. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Good morning, everyone. Hey, Andy. Scott, can you give us some more color into the I know you mentioned you have a number of larger projects in the horizon, but what's the confidence level that you'd be able to book these over the next Quarter 2. And what are your customers saying given all the crosscurrents out there, either economically or geopolitically? Do you see book to bill staying above 1 in 2024.

Speaker 2

Sure. Yes, I'm happy to answer that, Andy. And I'd just say, I'll start by saying Not a whole lot has changed in terms of our market outlook that we shared last month at the Analyst Day. And so We remain committed to the 5% growth through 2027. And I'd just say the core market activity, we showed that 3.3 But if you remember, that was more like a GDP number and we were actually pretty excited about that in the core existing markets.

Speaker 2

And then you combine the 3 d strategy, which picks up the diversification and the decarbonization, you're generating at least 5% growth going forward. And so again, Nothing significantly has changed. We're still committed to that. And then if you break it down between our aftermarket and MRO and our project, The aftermarket and MRO has maintained a super high level of activity this year. We see existing sites and facilities running at Very high utilization levels and I don't see that changing, right.

Speaker 2

So we're not seeing massive new Expansion of refinery capability in the U. S. And Europe nor in the chemical side. And so with that, we're seeing these assets being run even harder, Generating higher aftermarket in MRO. And so again, I don't see that trend changing.

Speaker 2

We've been over $500,000,000 now for 8 quarters in a row. And I expect that to continue and continue to grow as we work on some of the initiatives that we shared in the Investor Day last month. And then on the project side, what we're seeing there is incredibly healthy. And so we're the project funnel is up 5% year on year, 7% since the beginning of the year. And so we've got great visibility within our CRM system to track these projects.

Speaker 2

When we look at our customers on the EPC side, many of those customers, their backlog is up over 30% And that's all happened within the last 12 months and a lot of those big orders have not been let down to the OEMs like a folkserv. And then finally, in the Middle East, we see tremendous opportunity with the existing kind of industries Both the refining side and the chemical side with a pretty significant list of projects that are about to book Within the next 12 months. And I'd just say one example, we obviously booked the Jafura award last year at this time. It was over $200,000,000 on pumps alone since We picked up valve orders, but Jaffora 2 is coming. So the EPCs are just now getting awarded this job.

Speaker 2

And given the incumbency of us In the first Jaffora 1 and our strong execution to support Aramco, we're confident that we pick up a pretty large share of that project As it turns into Jaffora too. And then I'd just say, just adding one more kind of lens on this. Obviously, there's Discussion of recession, high interest rates, we track our bookings geographically and we track them by end markets as well. And right now, like we're really not seeing any slowdown on that traditional run rate business. I'd say of anywhere, there's a little bit of with the chemicals business in Europe and we've seen very, very modest destocking with some of our distributors in the Americas.

Speaker 2

Outside of that though, our general industries is up about 11% this quarter year on year, and we still feel good about the outlook. And so I'd say right now, we're positioned for success through 2024 and beyond, and we're committed to what we said last month at the Investor Day of growing this business 5% going forward.

Speaker 4

Scott, very helpful. And then maybe you, Amy, like just could you comment on the incremental margin you recorded in Q3, I think mid-30s And the sustainability of that margin going forward, I know you had an easy comp against more difficult supply chain last year. But As you said, you've been implementing the $50,000,000 cost program that will be reflected more in 'twenty four results and you're perfecting your new organizational design. So With all that understanding and I think Amy talked about 100 basis points of margin improvement dialed in so far for 2024, could that expectation actually be a bit conservative or at least Confidence level given the Q3 is higher here?

Speaker 3

Well, I'll start with Andy by saying we're not going to stop there, as we hit Those targets that we've outlined, we are pretty pleased with where we finished the 3rd quarter And certainly significant improvement year over year. As we look across our 7 business units, we really saw improvement in each of them year on year, and we expect to see that trend continue as we make our way into the 4th quarter. One thing that will be a little bit different in this Q4 is we're not anticipating a heroic increase in revenue From Q3 to Q4, we really see a nice trajectory of revenue growth, but more Stable across our run rate business, as we look at transitioning from Q3 to Q4, where we are anticipating seeing a pretty significant Increase in revenue and accounting for the majority of that increase from Q3 to Q4 is in our original equipment pump Area of the business where we've significantly expanded margins over where we were at last year at this time, But it will create a bit of a change in our mix in the Q4. So we're anticipating To see that a bit in gross margins, on an operating margin perspective, we're going to see those margins At around 10% to exit the year with gross margins around 30%, which will give us a really nice base

Operator

And next, we go to the line of Mike Halloran with Baird. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Hey, morning, everyone.

Speaker 5

So couple of questions. First on the cash usage from here and how you're thinking about it. Obviously, you're in a really good position on the cash side. So is there a pipeline of activity that you think you can move on towards now that The line deal didn't close or buybacks at all in the picture as you think about a forward the usage of cash on a forward basis?

Speaker 3

Sure. So I'll start by saying it's a nice position to be in to have a cash and liquidity position and that we can talk about meaningful allocation of capital. And we outlined some of our strategies in more detail at the Analyst Day. So I'll start by saying that we start that with thoughts around our commitments. And one of the things that we outlined at the Analyst Day is an expectation That we would return to the practice of buybacks to offset dilution from equity comp.

Speaker 3

So I think that's something that you can start to expect to see in terms of our cash usage going forward. From there, we're really weighing our choices between reinvestments in the business, inorganic growth, As well as larger scale buybacks or dividend increases. I will tell you right now, we see abundant opportunities Out there in terms of both reinvestment and a pipeline of kind of bolt on complementary M and A That would help bolster our product portfolio and lead us into markets that we like from a 3 d perspective. So we continue to work through that, That potential M and A portfolio to manage our products, but at the same time, I think we I like to use the word agnostic when I describe this. We have to When I describe this, we have to always weigh those choices with the opportunity to create long term value through shareholder returns as well.

Speaker 3

And then

Speaker 2

just to add on the programmatic M and A funnel. Obviously, we are in pursuit of the Valant transaction and so some of those got put on hold. We've now kind of revamped that. There are it is a highly fragmented full control space. And so we're excited about the We don't have anything in the immediate term, but I would certainly expect us to continue to progress this in 2024.

Speaker 2

And ideally, we're acquiring 1 2 programmatic M and A style businesses every year that support the 3 d strategy.

Speaker 5

Appreciate that. And then on the pricing side of things, So you're very comfortable with the margins that you're pulling into the backlog here, but maybe give some context to the market pricing environment. How much of that confidence in the margin, in the backlog, in the pricing that you're specifically getting is more Flowserve specific And you're just being diligent about what kind of pricing we see versus how competitive the marketplace is and if there's any variation that you're seeing out there?

Speaker 2

Sure. Let me I'll split that question between kind of our project business and our run rate MRO business. On the run rate MRO, aftermarket, parts, seals, replacement valves, all of that, we typically go with the priceless strategy. We're doing our best to balance price costs. And I think this year, we finally got in a more positive position than we've seen Over the last 12 or 18 months and so we did a 5% price increase at the beginning of this year.

Speaker 1

I don't remember exactly, it

Speaker 2

was like the 4th one we've done in 2 years, But we feel really good about that. We'll announce our new price increase for 2024 at the end of this year, and we'll move pricing up again. And so I feel very good on kind of the run rate business on where our pricing is. We're seeing basically our raw materials, the inflation has And so we feel like we can kind of take another step up on price cost with that side of the business. Now let me switch to project pricing.

Speaker 2

I would say this is still an area that I'm not satisfied with in terms of kind of the global marketplace. It's still very competitive with the larger projects and the more kind of attractive projects potentially in One of the energy transition lanes are some of the very large ones in the Middle East. And so given our current backlog and given How we view the world and the outlook going forward, we've been incredibly selective. And in fact, we walked away from a very large project in the 3rd quarter That didn't meet our pricing expectations. And so the discipline, while it's gotten tremendously better than a year ago, It's still not exactly where we would like to see it.

Speaker 2

Now hopefully, we'll start to see a little bit more disciplined behavior in Some of the larger projects as we turn the quarter into 2024 as most of the peer groups certainly on the engineered pumps is now Significantly fuller in terms of capacity. And so I would say the environment will improve in 2024. We're very close To being at the expectations that we believe we deserve given the risk of execution and the technology that we put into these projects. And so, Again, I feel good about the pricing environment. It's dramatically better than a year ago.

Speaker 2

Our margins and backlog are Higher across the board within Flowserve and I believe that our discipline in the new focus with the ore design will allow us to price Effectively as we go into 2024.

Speaker 5

Great. Really appreciate that. A lot of help.

Operator

Our next question or comment comes from the line of Damian Karas with UBS. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Hey, good morning, everyone.

Speaker 3

Good morning, Damian. Glad to

Speaker 7

see that hey, Amy. Glad to see you

Speaker 8

guys are reiterating those 27

Speaker 2

I was just curious, you talked

Speaker 8

a little bit about some of these projects in the funnel that kind of continues to grow. Is there any sense you could give us For the cumulative size of these projects that are lining up and how we should think about the Timing there, whether more first half, second half of next year, really any color any additional color you can provide?

Speaker 2

Sure. Yes, the Scantial money to meet some of their big commitments that they've made in terms of driving a mix shift in their economy. But I would say the whole Middle East looks really, really good right now. And so we've got visibility to several projects there. And then in addition to that, we talked about this last month at the Investor Day, LNG and nuclear are both very attractive markets And those projects can have pretty sizable content in them, call it somewhere between $40,000,000 and kind of $80,000,000 And so We're seeing a nice lineup on the LNG side and on the nuclear side.

Speaker 2

And then I'd just say on the timing comment, gosh, It is really hard to predict when these projects get awarded. We get visibility to them and just inevitably they slide to the right. And so Committing first half versus second half becomes very difficult. I did mention in the prepared comments though, we had a few of the projects slide from Q3 into Q4, so we do expect to see kind of a little bit of an uptick. None of the bigger Projects above kind of $50,000,000 to $100,000,000 but very nice sized projects over the $20,000,000 mark get booked in Q4.

Speaker 2

And then I'd just say, our expectations for next year would be certainly when we look at the full year, we're going to have improved project bookings In 2024 over 2023, timing is uncertain though in terms of which quarter they show up.

Speaker 8

Totally understood. And then you highlighted earlier, Scott, that vacuum technology On the 3 d, the semiconductor manufacturing vacuum technology, so that caught my attention. I'm just curious, When you bid on a project like that, that nature, kind of what kind of profit margin do you are you anticipating

Speaker 6

On a project like that?

Speaker 2

Sure. Yes. The vacuum technology is a really good product for us. It's And the competition is relatively smaller than some of our other products. And so this is an area where we can get good margins on the OE side.

Speaker 2

But I'd say more importantly, the vacuum technology has substantial aftermarket capability. And so when a new Customer is putting in a greenfield facility for semiconductors. They obviously, uptime and reliability would be front and center in In terms of what they expect from their OEM. And so we really like the OE business. It's at what I'll call Your normal levels for the pumps division, but then that aftermarket drives substantially accretive margins As we start to replace spindles and upgrade and repair those vacuum products.

Speaker 2

But I also just want to add, vacuum has been on our list of areas To grow, we haven't done a great job in the semiconductor market historically. And so we've now Really made an effort to get into this growing market, especially as companies look to reposition their supply chain in their production Closer to the regions where the consumer is. And so this is an area that we're very excited about. Again, limited competition compared to some of the other applications And we're very excited about the technology that we can put into this end market.

Speaker 6

Great. Well, congrats on

Speaker 8

the continued progress. Thanks for the time.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

We go next to the line of Saree Boroditsky with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Hi, congrats on the quarter. You highlighted some moderate destocking in the distribution channel. Where are inventory levels today? And what was the catalyst for destocking given what seems like a pretty positive outlook?

Speaker 2

Sure. Yes, the destocking really for us impacts our valve division. And again, very modest. And so we've seen some of the public comments with our with the distributors and some of the comments that directly that our teams had, There's just a lot of pressure on their inventory levels and they're being cautious about it. But I would say, overall, like it's been Very minor to our bookings.

Speaker 2

And when you look at the general industry side of our bookings, we're seeing tremendous growth year over year. And so I actually Expect them to start ordering more inventory as we close out the year and they transition to revenue growth in 2024. So while we've seen it modestly, not a major concern for us, and again, we remain very positive about our ability to grow Not only the valves business, but the overall business within the general industries category.

Speaker 9

Makes sense. And you had a nice step up in margins in FCD sequentially. Is there anything one time that we should contemplate here? Would you expect margins

Speaker 3

Yes. We are I'll start by saying that we are really pleased with the trajectory That we see FCD on, they've done a nice job and they particularly did a nice job in the 3rd quarter, leveraging that incremental volume to see the drop down to operating margins. And that's actually something we see continuing into the 4th quarter. We'll see some modest revenue growth and very modest as we make our way into the 4th quarter, But we're going to continue to see that margin expansion both at the gross margin level and at the operating margin level. So I think what is particularly pleasing about that is we think about those long term targets for FCD of sort of 16% plus on an operating margin Line, we're really going to exit this year with clear line of sight to those targets going forward.

Speaker 9

Great. I appreciate it. Thank you. Congrats on the quarter again.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

We go next to

Speaker 6

Just following up on the earlier question, you talked about some big projects and orders in the pipeline, but as you work through the backlog at the face of some macro geopolitics, Oil price volatility, how does it impact the way you approach and stay disciplined in these bids?

Speaker 2

Yes. Again, we feel very good about the health of the project funnel right now. And so despite all of the noise and the rhetoric out there on in the market These are big projects. They're big commitments from governments. They're big commitments from companies.

Speaker 2

And they have to plan these years in advance. And if you go backwards, 2022 or sorry, 2020, 2021 and into 2022, there is a Stantial lack of investment on some of this big infrastructure spending. And so again, feel very confident that what they've laid out and where these Things are moving. And if we look at FID levels, which is funding of the projects, we look at the EPC backlogs, all of those point to Awards for OEMs as we put equipment into these big projects.

Speaker 6

Thank you. And then looking into the implied 4th quarter, any seasonality that we should be mindful of in terms of Free cash flow growth for the segments or any other metrics that you can talk about? Thank you.

Speaker 3

Sure. So just from a seasonality I think as you can see, our revenue for the full year is up significantly. We're seeing more modest revenue growth against a pretty tough comp from last year in the Q4. That said, we would anticipate that we'll expand our operating margins as we move from Q3 to Q4 to provide us a really sound exit point to build upon within 2024. And from a cash flow perspective, we've been much more ratable with our cash flow over the course of 2023 with Positive operating cash flow in each of the first three quarters.

Speaker 3

We would anticipate that, that will ramp up As we exit the year and we'll see stronger free cash flow in the Q4 as we generally do.

Speaker 2

And then I just add, we're working very hard to provide more of a balanced view on results every quarter. And so You saw this year a relatively strong Q1, a second and third quarter that were pretty similar. And I'd just say, unlike years in Past where we're saving everything to the Q4, we're doing a much better job making sure that we're getting healthy revenue and margins in all Of our quarters and I would certainly expect to see that as we turn into the Q1 of next year.

Operator

Next, we go to the line of Joe Ritchie with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Thanks. Good morning, guys, and nice quarter.

Speaker 7

Yes. Thanks, Joe. Maybe Scott, maybe you

Speaker 6

just answered my last question, because like historically when you've taken a look at the seasonality in the Q4 versus the Q3, You've seen a pretty big uptick in revenues, particularly in FPD. And Amy, I've heard you say a few times On this call, you're only expecting a modest improvement. So just help us understand why it's modest because when you go back Several, several years and it's typically like a pretty nice uptick.

Speaker 2

Yes. And I'll just I'll reiterate what I So we are really focused on our material planning, scheduling and really trying to take out the variability quarter over quarter. And you said it, Joe, like if you go back in history, especially on the FCD side, we got some pretty wild swings on revenue and margins. And so again, the teams are doing a really nice job planning their work, planning the supply chain and progressing that work more continually throughout the year. And what it should what you should see and expect from us as we go forward is Q1 is always going to be slightly lower than the rest The quarters, what you'll see, call it, down in the Q1 a bit, but then relatively strong on Q2 and Q3, which should be about the same, And then just a modest uplift in Q4, but Amy can provide a little more color on that.

Speaker 3

Yes. And Joe, I'd say the backlog is in place with FCD. We had a positive book to bill within that segment again this quarter. The backlog is in place and we've been able to make our way through the year In a really rational way that makes the operations be able to operate on a normal in a normal Trajectory, avoid the swing, really the big increase that we've seen is from Q1 to the Q3 where we increased revenue nearly $50,000,000 for the segment over that period of time. So going about it the way that we are, what we see is we're hoping to avoid That Q4 to Q1 reduction that we see and really trying to reduce that shrinkage in revenue that we've Traditionally seen between Q4 and Q1.

Speaker 3

And as I've said a couple of times, I'm really pleased With what we've seen in terms of the conversion of that backlog from the valves portfolio over the course of 2023.

Speaker 6

Got it. That's super helpful and great to hear. I guess my other follow-up question, I guess, as you kind of think through Clearly, like the margin expansion has been great, remains on track. I'm trying to kind of think through the dynamics of the cost to achieve Going forward beyond 2023, and then ultimately what that means for your free cash flow conversion, right, because Yes, there's a cash component to the restructuring cost that's impacting your free cash flow. But clearly, getting adjusted out Of the earnings component, so how do we think about that beyond 2023?

Speaker 3

Sure. So we've put in the forecast the things that we're aware of at this point in time. We're obviously going to continue to look For opportunities to reduce our costs structurally as we move forward. And certainly, of the Restructuring that we've taken this year, there is a fairly sizable component of that, I think around $13,000,000 that's actually non cash. We continue to see some of that make its way through.

Speaker 3

Although of the restructuring that we've taken this year, Certainly, some of that will the cash outlays for that will occur over the course of 2024.

Speaker 6

And is the cost to achieve in 2024 going to be like of similar size to 2023? Or is there any Quantification of what that number is going to look like?

Speaker 3

We have not quantified that number yet, Joe. I think That's a rational assumption to make going forward, but those particular initiatives and what that might look like have yet to be

Speaker 6

Okay, great. Thank you.

Operator

We go next to the line of Brett Linzey with Mizuho. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Hi, everyone. This is Peter Costa on for Brett Lindsay. So there's really impressive growth in the Middle East and Africa. Are you guys seeing any emerging risk or throttling back of future activity in the region given the current geopolitical environment? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Sure. It's a good question. It's something that we're watching very closely. And so your geopolitics today is a little bit of a wildcard, We still have war in Ukraine with Russia. We've got the Middle East now with lots of concern with Israel and Palestine.

Operator

So it's

Speaker 2

just something that we're watching. I'd say any conflict drives uncertainty and so I'd say it's not a net Positive. However, given kind of where things are and what's going on in the world, we remain confident that the projects We have visibility to in Saudi Arabia, in the UAE, in Qatar that those continue to progress forward. And so No, I think there's always an element of geopolitical risk in our business given the significant international exposure that we have. But again, today, we feel confident in our projections, in our plans, given everything we know and that we're watching in the world.

Speaker 7

Thanks. And then you also noted that 100 basis point impact of non cash adjustments to the long term liabilities. I'm just curious if you could potentially move that out of the adjusted results moving forward?

Speaker 3

It's certainly something that has been presented to By a number of the analysts, we've tried to be consistent in year from year to year in terms of how we presented this. But Obviously, as we start each New Year, we think about how we take a look at these things and it's certainly something that we'll consider going forward. Obviously, what we hope is to avoid charges of this size going forward. And when we've not adjusted it, we intend to be

Operator

We go next to Nathan Jones with Stifel. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Good morning, everyone.

Speaker 2

Hey, Nathan.

Speaker 7

I guess I'll ask my second question. First thing is it's a follow-up to the last one. There's a pretty well defined playbook for getting those liabilities off the balance sheet. Several other companies have done it. Now that you have a little bit more flexibility in the balance What are your thoughts about actually moving that liability off the balance sheet, so we don't have to worry about these charges anymore?

Speaker 3

So it's certainly something that we continue to monitor and talk about internally. Yes. There are the liability is an undiscounted liability that we have on our balance We also have a receivable that partially offsets it. So the net size of the liability is about $60,000,000 We believe it's manageable. Many transactions that have been executed Around liability management have been much larger than that as we look at what's happened in the market.

Speaker 3

So As we think about this, it's the same decision that we're making around capital allocation for other opportunities, where is the greatest long term return to our shareholders. And currently, given the way our legal team has been able to manage this liability and the insurance proceeds That we've received to date to net against this, we viewed higher and better uses for capital allocation, but that will continue to be under consideration.

Speaker 2

Yes. We'll look at it every year and make the best decision at the time that we can.

Speaker 7

Okay. Second question I wanted to ask about is the visibility on the project pipeline. So you're talking about a number of these large Projects in EPC backlogs and certain things moving into the FID stage. And so I think that flow service visibility Pretty good here. I mean once projects get into EPC backlogs, they're pretty much going to be executed on.

Speaker 7

And once they get to being awarded to Flowserve, They pretty much always get executed on. The projects behind that, the ones that haven't got to FID yet are the ones that are Probably more at risk in your pipeline. If we think about how far away they are, like is that a year from now that we might see some If we assume the market turns down, is it 2 years away that we might see some disruption if the market turns down? Just maybe you can give some more color around your visibility into that pipeline and Your level of confidence that those get executed on?

Speaker 2

Sure. No, I think it's a really good point, Nathan, and I'll I reiterate some of the things that you said. And so if we think about, let's just call it our near term pipeline 1 year out. Why do we have confidence in that? We've got our own internal funnel and opportunities.

Speaker 2

We know these projects have passed FID And they're now showing up with orders within the EPC backlog. And I'll just from a historical perspective, once you get FID and once you see it in the EPCs, Very, very rarely will you see a project stopped or canceled unless something dramatically goes wrong. And so We have very good visibility in our 1 year funnel in terms of larger projects and outlook. I would say beyond the 1 year mark, that's When you start to see some uncertainty that could be driven by cost inflation or interest rates In terms of how they lever up some of these projects and project financing or potentially some of the geopolitical risks, which we referenced earlier. On the positive side though, again, we've had substantial underinvestment.

Speaker 2

We've got In market pricing on the oil and gas side that is incredibly constructive and we also have the dynamic of energy security And so very similar to my comments a month ago at the Investor Day, like we still feel really good about that long term view of activity around the world, giving the dynamics of energy security and energy transition.

Speaker 7

Thanks very much for taking my questions.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thank you, David.

Operator

And this does conclude today's teleconference. We thank you for your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time.

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