RadNet Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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October 31, 2023

There are 7 speakers on the call.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good morning, and welcome to the Medallion Financial Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Ken Cooper.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to Medallion Financial Corp's 3rd quarter earnings call. Joining me today are Andrew Murstein, President and Chief Operating Officer and Anthony Caturone, Chief Financial Officer. Certain statements made during the call today constitute Forward looking statements made pursuant to and within the meaning of the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 as amended. Such forward looking statements are subject to both known and unknown risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from such statements.

Speaker 1

Those risks and uncertainties are described in our earnings press release issued yesterday and in our filings with the SEC. The forward looking statements made today are as of the date of this call and we do not undertake any obligation to update these forward looking statements. In addition to our earnings press release, You can find our Q3 supplement presentation on our website by visiting medallion.com and clicking Investor Relations. The presentation is near the top of the page. With that, I'll turn it over to Andrew Murstein, President.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Ken. Good morning, everyone. Medallion Financial had a strong 3rd quarter that culminated with our best earnings for the 9 months ended September 30 in any year since our IPO over 27 years ago. In the Q3, we generated $11,200,000 of net income and $0.48 of earnings per share. Year to date, we are at $40,800,000 of net income and $1.77 of earnings per share.

Speaker 1

These results have again been driven by higher than normal originations in our consumer lending, solid results from our commercial lending, Continued success in cash collections from our taxi medallion loans and a successful effort to leverage our operating costs. We have been clear for some time now that our strategy is to grow net interest income by offsetting rising costs to borrow With continued growth in loan originations, we have done that for another quarter even as origination activity started to normalize back to historical levels. As we look to the future, we will continue to take proactive steps to raise our credit standards and increased pricing. With total assets of over $2,500,000,000 we anticipate loan growth to moderate from the levels we have seen This provides more flexibility and options for us to consider around capital allocation, such as the 25% increase in the dividend Our Board authorized starting next month, which enhances shareholder return. Moving to the update for each of our segments.

Speaker 1

Our consumer lending business had another quarter of heightened activity of originations. We believe this robust origination Activity is due to our target customer still being active in purchasing towable RVs, small boats and single project home improvements. These all have active markets today as compared to the higher end cruiser RVs, yachts, a multi project or whole house remodels, which has significantly higher costs and maybe more susceptible to a slowdown. As a reminder, our average loan at origination is around a very manageable $25,000 with a prime or near prime borrower more focused on the payment levels than the rates. In addition, we continue to see some industry players scale back or exit these business lines, which helps us.

Speaker 1

The dealers and contractors who we work with know that we have great service levels and we will be here long term, which helps them refer business to us. Our commercial business originated $9,000,000 of loans in the quarter and ended the quarter with $100,000,000 of loans outstanding. The segment generated after tax earnings of $2,000,000 during the quarter, which included net after tax gains related to equity investments of $1,600,000

Operator

Our Our

Speaker 1

bottom line benefited again from another good quarter of cash collections on taxi medallion assets. This quarter we collected $5,700,000 which translated into $0.10 of earnings per share. Also of note, shortly after the quarter ended, We executed a structured settlement with 1 of our larger taxi medallion borrowers and collected an additional $9,400,000 which will result in a pre tax gain of approximately $8,000,000 in the 4th quarter. We continue to be delighted with our taximedallion collection performance, but I again stress that payment patterns are expected to fluctuate. Finally, as I mentioned earlier, our Board has authorized a 25% increase in our quarterly dividend from $0.08 to $0.10 per share per quarter.

Speaker 1

With that, I will now turn the call over to Anthony, who will provide some additional insight into our quarter. Thank you, Andrew. Good morning, everyone. For the quarter, net interest income grew 16% to $48,800,000 from the prior year, driven by increased interest rates on new originations coupled with the loan growth we've experienced since the prior year. These two factors have been able to counteract the rising cost of funds we continue to experience.

Speaker 1

Our net interest margin on gross loans was 8.35 for the quarter as compared to 8.48 percent in the 2nd quarter and 8.63% in the prior year quarter. The compression in net interest margin is related to 2 things. First, home improvement lending has been the fastest growing component of our consumer lending business, With these prime credits having a much lower interest rate and compared to our much larger recreation portfolio. The second is the rising cost of funds we are experiencing in tandem with the current interest rate environment. Although we have been successful in increasing our own rates, it is not on a one to one basis.

Speaker 1

Specific to originations, we are currently writing at an average rate of 11.75% on home improvement loans, up from approximately 9% a year ago and an average rate of approximately 16.25% on recreation loans, up from 14.75 percent a year ago. In addition to passing along interest rate increases, we continue to take proactive measures to Credit in our consumer lending. At the end of 2018, subprime loans were 66% of the recreation portfolio. Today, some prime loans are 38% of that portfolio. Our provision for credit loss was $14,500,000 for the quarter compared to $10,000,000 in the prior year quarter.

Speaker 1

The increased provision is primarily a result of 1, the continued normalization of loss experienced In our consumer portfolio, up from the unprecedented lows experienced during the pandemic and 2, the growth of our overall portfolio, The provision is inclusive of a $1,800,000 benefit related to recoveries on taxi medallion loans during the quarter. Operating expenses were $19,100,000 during the quarter, down from $19,400,000 in the prior year quarter. The drop was primarily the result of lower legal and professional fees in the current period, offset by higher salary and benefit costs and higher servicing costs associated with a larger book of loans. For the quarter, net income attributable to our shareholders was $11,200,000 And our diluted earnings per share was $0.48 Just a quick final comment on the balance sheet. On September 29, we closed a $39,000,000 private placement of 9.25 percent notes, a large portion of which has been used to settle $33,000,000 of the 8 point quarter percent notes, which mature in March 2024 with the remaining $3,000,000 of those notes anticipated to be repaid at maturity.

Speaker 1

It's important to note that this new issuance priced at a rate 75 basis points above prime as compared to our previous notes Issuance in 2021, which priced at 400 basis points above prime. Our ability to price the instruments at a lower spread to prime From just a few years ago speaks to our underlying business as a whole and the progress that we've made in transforming the company. At the end of the quarter, the company had $160,000,000 of debt at the parent company, which continues to fund the investments in our operating subsidiaries With that debt being less than 50% of our equity. That covers our Q3 financial results. Andrew and I are now happy to take your questions.

Operator

Our first question comes from the line of Mike Grondahl with Northland Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Hey guys, thanks a lot. Two questions maybe to start off with. Could you kind of give us a Sense of your margin outlook going forward? And then Anthony, I think we typically get net charge offs kind of by category in dollars and percent. Could you also provide those?

Speaker 3

Sure. So with regards to the margin, We still believe as we've said for a couple of quarters that there's going to continue to be compression, but we think we bottom out at around 8 Net interest margin, we still have a ways to go in terms of our cost of funds rising. But I think what's important to note is that we've passed along, especially in the most recent year, a large number of increased Rates on new originations. So we think as we get closer to the top of the credit cycle, there'll be a little bit more compression. But then as we've increased the rates on and our book matures in terms of a higher average interest rate that should help us long term.

Speaker 2

Got it. Got it. So a couple more quarters of compression until you hit about 8%. Is that the Did I hear that right?

Speaker 3

Yes, I think that's fair. And obviously, what the Fed decides to do is going to be a catalyst for a lot of But that's how we're seeing it. And to your other question about charge offs for the quarter, charge offs in rec and home improvement were $12,000,000 commercial was 0 and we had $1,700,000 of recoveries on taxis.

Speaker 2

Got it. And then on your CDs, What was the average rate you're paying at the end of 3Q kind of compared to market?

Speaker 3

We're probably about 150 basis points to 175 basis points below what a current 3 year CD would be? So we think we creep up. And again, that goes back to what we were just talking about. We Our cost of funds is going to increase towards that 4.75 ish, 500 level over the next several quarters. But again, our top line is going to continue to increase as we've seen it do for the past several quarters now.

Speaker 2

Yes. You've done a good job of raising That's for sure. And then Andy, two questions for you. 1, How are you thinking about the $160,000,000 of debt at the holding company As you get these taxicab medallion collections? And then secondly, how are you thinking about 2024?

Speaker 4

So let me just also touch on the net interest margin. The net interest income we expect of course to increase just To be clear there, so the margin as Anthony has been saying accurately for several quarters now should go down to about that 8%. But as the portfolio grows, the margins Continue to shrink, but the net interest income continues to increase because of the volume of the portfolio, the originations. The debt amount we think is conservative at that level. We're not really leveraged too much.

Speaker 4

We've always Operator, as you know Mike, you've known us for many, many years. So for about 30 years, we were a regulated investment company, BDC. So we were limited to About one to 1 debt to equity, so we've always kind of operated at a low leverage ratio. So, we Refinance that debt as you know that was nice to put behind us. We have debt coming due in March 2024, which we refinanced as we announced on September 30.

Speaker 4

So we don't anticipate adding significant new debt if any debt at all for the next year or so. In terms of the outlook for 2024, I'd say overall we're pretty optimistic as the numbers continue to show and the results continue to show. We've had strong loan demand in RV, marine, home improvement, mezzanine continues to be very strong too. This is probably one of the highest The deal flow we've seen from that division in the 25 years that we've owned them. So across the board, continued growth, Hopefully more collections from the medallion portfolio.

Speaker 4

We've done a great job collecting on a lot of loans there. We still are owed about $200,000,000 and we'll do whatever we can to collect as much of that. You have congestion pricing hitting New York City soon. So that Could be a boost for the medallion prices when they try to keep consumer cars out of the city, more people ideally will be taking taxis as well as Ubers. And we increased the dividend.

Speaker 4

So as everybody can kind of sit back and watch the growth in 2024, They'll be able to receive a $0.40 per share dividend. So overall, I'd say we're bullish on the year ahead.

Speaker 2

Great. Hey, Thanks again.

Speaker 4

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Christopher Nolan with Ladenburg Thalmann. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Hi, Andrew. Did I hear you say that there was $200,000,000 in medallions outstanding?

Speaker 4

That's what we're owed, Correct. And as you know, they're written down to a much lower number. It's less than 1% of our assets today, but that's how much legally we're owed. And the collections can come through by either foreclosing on the medallions, which are worth About 150 or so now in New York City, we're carrying them as you know at a lower number. But all these and we've been saying this for many, many years, All the loans have personal guarantees attached to them.

Speaker 4

So thankfully we're seeing a lot of settlements this year. I don't know if the borrowers are bullish on the congestion pricing plan Which is business in general, but they're coming in and settling with us. So, hopefully that continues.

Speaker 5

Got you. For the $9,400,000 medallion recovery in the 4th quarter, Why is that a gain? Shouldn't that be a recovery?

Speaker 3

So, see, I know it is a recovery. It's going to be a benefit in our provision. So these assets had been written down to a book value of $1,400,000 So it's the difference between the cash collected And the asset that goes away, that's the $8,000,000

Speaker 5

Okay. So that's simply just we couldn't potentially have a lower Loan loss provision than normal, right?

Speaker 3

Right. Yes. So that $8,000,000 should all flow through as a benefit in the loan loss provision. That's correct.

Speaker 5

And then were you thinking of taking the reserve ratio?

Speaker 3

So currently, We're around $420,000,000 on rec and just about $220,000,000 or so on home improvement. We think those are good numbers. So in connection with the adoption of CECL On January 1, we've got a we do a lot more quantitative forecasting and we look at future expected losses. If the economy were to take a sudden downturn, which we've been expecting, Those rates could step up. But if we continue with the pace where we are, we think those are good numbers and that's where the allowances should remain.

Speaker 5

Okay. And then, given final question. Given your comments in terms of loan growth to moderate, Should we expect relatively what does moderate mean? I mean,

Speaker 1

what sort

Speaker 5

of growth rate you're looking?

Speaker 3

Yes. So I think in the 9 months, consumer loans grew around 16% and we've been That was good and we intentionally did that and made those took the opportunity to take these recoveries and this capital that we generated from these medallion collections and Reinvested in the business, I think going forward, we would expect somewhere in the ballpark of 8% to 12% growth With the ability to increase that or decrease it as necessary, I think growing at 20% is different when you've got a $100,000,000 balance sheet as opposed to Growing at 20% when you've got a $2,500,000,000 balance sheet.

Speaker 1

Okay. That's it for me. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matt Howlett with B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Hey, thanks guys. Thanks for taking my question. Another fine quarter and there just seems to be this disconnect between You guys are performing what the market views you at and I want to get to that. But the first question is the with the moderation in loan growth, the Excess capital, I mean, you just raised the dividend. We have a high class problem.

Speaker 6

We have a lot of capital. You're above, I think, 15% well above 15%. Looks like you will generate more capital. You got that gain coming into the 3rd quarter. So you already got sort of $0.25 in the bank already.

Speaker 6

My question to you Is exit could you what do you think about in terms of excess capital? Could you get more aggressive buying another platform, buying back shares? Just talk to me about how you've been running at this breakneck speed and loan growth is going to slow, it's going to free up a lot of capital, you got great earnings. Anything we should think about in terms of that capital?

Speaker 4

I think we're always looking at new businesses and acquisitions. It's really not a good time to go off base and go into new lines of business. All of our businesses are doing so well. So we're going to continue to focus on them. I'd say that we Probably have a lot of good options, since we don't plan on going into new businesses that could be buying back more stock.

Speaker 4

Last year, I think we bought about 10% of the company back in 2022. The buyback has another $20,000,000 to go. Let's just raise the dividend as you state. We're now paying $0.40 a share, so we raised to 25%. So we can put more money into the bank if need be, if we're surprised and loan growth is stronger and we're able to really pass on a lot of the Increases in prices to our borrowers and charge more, that's always a good option for us too.

Speaker 4

But it's nice to have options.

Speaker 3

Yes. And I think the one thing that I'd add to that is we do have a large amount of capital, regulatory capital at the bank, but we also have High minimum that we've got to maintain a 15% capital maintenance ratio that as you're aware. So given the size of book that we have now, a slight deviation because of CECL in what we need to record as an allowance Could have a meaningful impact on that ratio. So if we need to stay at 15%, staying just above 15% at the size we are Doesn't actually it doesn't work for us. So we need a larger buffer to account for that variability, which we haven't yet experienced in the 9 months since we've adopted CECL.

Speaker 3

But if the economy does take a downturn, we might. And I think that's why we want to make sure that we've got ample capital cushion As well as to what Andrew said, increasing the dividend and providing other shareholder returns that we can.

Speaker 6

Yes. Look, it's a high class problem to have and it looks Your capital generation is only going to increase. So when I look at Slide 11, the charge offs and most of the banks have been out there saying charge offs on their credit card ODDO is going to be kind of pre pandemic levels in by early next year. You guys are a little bit you guys are almost you guys are not quite there, but you're almost When I look at that chart though, given the moving up in credit, the cycle, the more home improvement you have, I mean That what you kind of show a 6% charge off in 2,009, but it doesn't seem like you're ever get ever close to that even if we go into a major recession.

Speaker 3

Yes. We hope not. I think what I said earlier was is important. Just in 2018, 2 thirds of our recreational portfolio was subprime. We can subprime that's the regulatory definition, 660 FICO.

Speaker 3

Today, that's a third. So we've drastically changed the credit quality of this portfolio over a number of years and we hope that that as well as in the past year Stepping up the rates that we're getting on new origination. So we think that all of those things are good steps and should help us Indoubtably when we hit the next downturn.

Speaker 6

Yes. And then my final question is for both of you and Especially, Andy, you've been obviously running the company a long time. What's the disconnect here between the numbers you're putting out that 20 plus ROEs, The significant discount to book, what's the disconnect between your performance in the market? Are people just looking at prior Cycles are looking at the banks. They're not appreciating your underwriting, your movement up in credit, all your pricing.

Speaker 6

I mean, what's Can you just maybe just go over that for me? Thank you very much.

Speaker 4

Yes, that's a tough one to answer. It's a great question Years ago, you're right, we've been at this a long time. In the late 90s, I think we were making a dollar a share. The stock was at 30, we were trading at 30 times earnings. Now we're at as you point out in your note this morning, Matt, I don't know, 3.5 times earnings, kind of shockingly low.

Speaker 4

So I really hope we just can get in front of more buyers, more institutional buyers. It doesn't take much to move the needle if we can get some good support in the stock and a large volume of stock being bought that will surely drive up the price. And We're doing more conferences, getting more eyeballs, getting more phone calls these days. So I just think if we continue to produce, This can be hard for the market to ignore us for much longer.

Speaker 6

Yes. Look, the taxi medallion is now a tailwind for you, given You already had $8,000,000 in pretax gain in October. Did I read that correctly?

Speaker 4

Yes, exactly. Yes, that's been icing on the cake for us, the last pretty big cake, I guess, because we're collecting a lot of money there. So we'll continue to do so I hope. Again, the business is picking up the medallion business. Bottom down at about 79,000 in medallion, it's been ticking up ever since the last few years.

Speaker 3

Yes. And I would just add that this is consistent what we're experiencing in the medallion Space right now, it's consistent with what Andrew and management here has been saying all along. If you go back a number of years when we were in Height of the issues that the taxi medallion space was encountering, we always knew and we were transparent about it that eventually we get to a point where the prices aren't going to go down any further. And at that point, then we would benefit as we had already taken the pain. So I think that's what we've experienced not just the past 9 months, but also last year as well.

Speaker 6

Well, it just looks like there's significant off balance sheet value in those tax seats. It's obviously a huge tailwind to your earnings going forward on top of Really great performance. And hopefully, they'll see people will see the performance versus what we're seeing from the banks, what the problems they're experiencing and some of your performance. So Congratulations. Thanks, Anthony.

Speaker 6

Thanks a lot.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Matt. Thank

Operator

you. As there are no further questions, I would now hand the conference over to Andrew Murstein, President, for any closing comments.

Speaker 4

Thank you again for joining us this morning. Our company is doing well and we have a lot to be proud of. We're working hard and seeing great results that position us well to continue to deliver As always, if you have any questions, please feel free to contact our Investor Relations team. The contact information is on the last page of our earnings supplement as well as the IR section of our website. Thanks again and have a great rest of your day.

Operator

Thank you. The conference of Medallion Financial has now concluded. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.

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