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Earnings HistoryForecast Artisan Partners Asset Management EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.75Consensus EPS $0.47Beat/MissBeat by +$0.28One Year Ago EPS$0.70Artisan Partners Asset Management Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$248.70 millionExpected Revenue$245.15 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$3.55 millionYoY Revenue Growth+6.10%Artisan Partners Asset Management Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2023Date11/1/2023TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateWednesday, November 1, 2023Conference Call Time1:00PM ETUpcoming EarningsArtisan Partners Asset Management's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, April 29, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Wednesday, April 30, 2025 at 1:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Artisan Partners Asset Management Q3 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 1, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Hello, and thank you for standing by. My name is Jason, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the prepared remarks, management will conduct a question and answer session and conference participants will be given instructions at that time. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. Operator00:00:19At this time, I will turn the call over to Artisan Partners Asset Management. Speaker 100:00:25Welcome to the Artisan Partners Asset Management Business Update and Earnings Call. Before we begin today, I would like To remind you that comments made during today's call, including responses to questions, may include forward looking statements. These are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties, including but not limited to the factors set forth in our earnings release and detailed in our SEC filings. These risks and uncertainties may cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed in the statements, and we assume no obligation to update or revise any of these statements following the presentation. During today's call, we will be discussing our Investor Day, which took place on September 27 in New York and online. Speaker 100:01:19Materials from the Investor Day and a replay of the presentation are available on our Investor Relations website. The Investor Day presentation also included forward looking statements that were current as of the time they were made, but Not been updated to reflect any changes in circumstances. In addition, some of our remarks today We'll include references to non GAAP financial measures. You can find reconciliations of those measures to the most comparable GAAP measures in the earnings release and the supplemental materials, which can be found on our Investor Relations website. Also, please note that nothing on this call constitutes an offer or solicitation to purchase I will now turn it over to Eric Colson, our CEO. Speaker 200:02:23Thank you for joining the call or reading the transcript. On September 27, we held our 1st Investor Day. After more than 10 years as a public company, we wanted to review who we are as an investment firm, Describe how we have evolved our business and compounded wealth for clients and highlight the team and platform we have in place for future growth. The title of the Investor Day was the power of quality compounding. We wanted to reinforce the power of compounding, the 8th wonder of the world and reinforce the power and potential of Artisan Partners, a firm designed and operated to compound wealth, careers and outcomes over long periods of time. Speaker 200:03:05As an illustration, a hypothetical portfolio of $1,000,000 invested at inception of each of Artisan's 28 strategies Launch to clients would have grown to nearly $117,000,000 net of fees as of September 30, 2023. This amount is nearly $43,000,000 or 58%, more than if the same amounts had been invested in the passive benchmarks most often used to assess our strategy's performance. That's a good example of the power of compounding and the long term performance of Artisan Partners. Another goal of our Investor Day was to introduce more members of our business management team. We have a group of senior leaders who know the investment industry and are aligned with who we are as a high value added investment firm. Speaker 200:03:55This group gives us the breadth and depth to continue our repeatable franchise development process, further expand our investment in business capabilities At the Investor Day, Jason Gottlieb, our President, Let a detailed discussion of our franchise development process, the positioning and potential of our existing investment strategies and areas where we may expand in the future. Today, Jason is joining CJ and me, and I have asked him To update you on the status of our credit oriented business as well as opportunities we see in emerging markets. Speaker 300:04:35Thank you, Eric. Our expansion into credit is a case study in our repeatable franchise development process. Slide 2 should look familiar. It shows the spaces we are focused on and our methodical build out in these areas. As we discussed at the Investor Day, we pursue asset classes where we see the overlap of exceptional talent, large investment opportunity sets for differentiation and alpha generation, large addressable markets with long term allocators and good fit with for strategic expansion of our business model and operating platform. Speaker 300:05:0910 years ago, we did not have any of these capabilities shown on this slide. Today, we have an investment offering in each of these areas except private credit. Earlier this week, we completed the first close of the Artisan Dislocation Opportunities Fund. The fund is a closed end drawdown vehicle managed by Brian Krug and the credit team. Throughout his career, Brian has exploited opportunities in dislocated markets. Speaker 300:05:36Dislocation Opportunities Fund is designed to provide clients with When I think about the lineup on this slide, what is most notable to me We have demonstrated that our philosophy and process works for clients and talent beyond public equities. In short, these strategies have performed. Since inception and after fees, the high income strategy has delivered 193 basis points of average annual alpha Credit opportunities, 751 basis points floating rate, 50 basis points global unconstrained, 603 basis points emerging market debt opportunities 939 basis points and emerging market local opportunities 255 basis points. During the Q3, we continued to capitalize on this success and grow these businesses. We on boarded a $425,000,000 institutional account in emerging market local opportunities. Speaker 300:06:38We onboarded a $250,000,000 institutional account in Global Unconstrained and the high income strategy had another strong quarter of flows, bringing year to date net inflows to over $1,000,000,000 for that strategy. Looking ahead at the near term, We are particularly focused on credit opportunities and global unconstrained strategies. Both have outstanding track records with differentiated portfolios. We will also continue to round out and further diversify the high income business and execute on early opportunities for the Emsights Capital Group. While we have made significant progress in expanding our credit capabilities, we are still in the early innings. Speaker 300:07:20We have a tremendous opportunity with our 2 existing teams and there is great potential to leverage our operational platform with additional fixed income talent. As we move forward, we expect to do more in high value added credit, but we will remain patient for the right opportunities that are consistent with our repeatable process. Turning to Slide 3. With the addition of the Emsights Capital Group, we now offer 5 emerging markets investment strategies, 3 focused on equities and 2 focused on credit. We don't include Global Unconstrained as an EM strategy, given its broad mandate to seek return and manage risk across developed and developing markets. Speaker 300:08:03It is no secret that emerging markets investing has been rough. Over the last decade, the MSCI EM Equity Index has returned 2.07% annually compared to 7.55% for the ACWI Index and 11.91 for the S and P 500. Flows haven't been good either. In 2022, $90,000,000,000 Speaker 200:08:25flowed out Speaker 300:08:25of EM Debt Strategies and $4,000,000,000 flowed out of EM Equity Strategies. 2023 has seen a continuation of these trends in EM Debt with EM Equity seeing modest inflows. We take a long term approach. Emerging Markets accounts for over 40% of global GDP and even greater share of global growth. Emerging Markets offers a large and growing investment opportunity set. Speaker 300:08:50There is ample opportunity for differentiation and alpha and clients want and need active risk management. Yes, allocators are dialing down EM allocations right now, especially to China. Long term, We believe that emerging markets will be an important source of return and diversification for our sophisticated allocators. While others are retrenching from emerging markets, we continue to move forward carefully and with discipline. We have long experience in emerging markets. Speaker 300:09:22We launched the Artisan Sustainable Emerging Market Strategy in 2006 and Artisan Developing World Strategy in 2015. More recently, in addition to launching the Emsights Capital Group, we have built out our China Post venture team with 7 individuals operating out for our Hong Kong office. Our developing world team now has talent in Hong Kong as well, and we recently obtained regulatory approval We have no illusions about the challenges presented by geopolitics and China in particular. These take judgment and patience to navigate, but we have never tried to time markets or short term demand. We look for the overlap of talent, opportunity and business fit. Speaker 300:10:10When we find it, we move forward, we build and we remain patient. Over the long term, we continue to believe that emerging markets will present opportunities that allocators want and need to access. We have today and will have in the future a compelling lineup of talent and strategies to fit those needs. Speaker 400:10:30Thank you, Jason. Speaker 200:10:33Slide 4 summarizes our growth since 1995. Our growth has been a function of compounding wealth for existing clients, adding new capabilities and assets over time and patience. As we've added investment capabilities and assets, We've invested in the distribution capabilities that support them. At the Investor Day, listeners heard from our Head of Global Distribution, Chris Krine. Our distribution model is a hybrid approach. Speaker 200:11:01Traditionally, our investment team specific business leaders have marketed and serviced Institutional clients and consultants, while our centralized sales teams have marketed and serviced Their own channels or geographies. We have hired excellent people, provided compelling incentives and sold and serviced across multiple channels and geographies with modest headcount and total spend. Over time, So the number and complexity of our investment strategies has grown considerably. And historical distribution channels are converging, making distinctions Like institutional and intermediary, less relevant. What it takes to sell and service as a sophisticated asset allocator is increasingly similar, whether it's a pension fund, institutional consultant, broker dealer research department or family office. Speaker 200:11:57We are involving to increase intentionality and focus by improving alignment between our distribution professionals, content and marketing and data. We will continue to have high caliber talent and compelling incentives, but we are creating more structure and coordination, We're clearly delineating sales and service responsibilities. We are clarifying sales priorities, and we're producing more investment content and better coordinating that content with sales and service efforts. And we are collecting, generating and using more data to improve the effectiveness Let me give you two examples to illustrate this evolution. First, we recently hired our 1st individual to focus exclusively on marketing our alternative strategies. Speaker 200:12:49His near term focus is on marketing the credit opportunity strategy as well as related co investment style opportunities that are a derivative of what the credit team does, such as dislocation opportunities. 2nd, we are identifying specific strategies where we have compelling near and medium term opportunities in aligning people, resources, content and data to increase our focus and improve our feedback loops. These more structured marketing efforts increase the probability of near and medium term success and serve as a model for the future. All of this evolution is consistent with who we are and how we have historically evolved. We have always sought to align people, resources, incentives and opportunities. Speaker 200:13:38At the Investor Day, We also described why we are confident we will continue to compound wealth for clients, scale our newer strategies, add additional capabilities and continue to generate high quality outcomes for our clients, employees and shareholders. We have expanded across more investment teams, asset classes and geographies. We have a repeatable process for identifying, recruiting, Onboarding and partnering with investment talent. Our operational platform has more capabilities than ever. We are evolving our distribution model, and we have in place a business management team with deep industry and artisan specific experience It is extremely well positioned to move us forward. Speaker 200:14:24I will now turn it over to C. J. To discuss our recent financial results. Speaker 500:14:30Thanks, Eric. The decline in equity markets during the quarter drove our assets under management down to 136,500,000,000 As of September 30, that's a 5% decrease from the June 30 AUM and 7% higher than our AUM at the start of 2023. Declines in global market indices contributed meaningfully to the decline in our AUM. Net client outflows, primarily in global equity mandates also contributed to the AUM declines. Average AUM was $142,200,000,000 for the quarter, up 2% compared to last quarter and up 7% compared to the prior year September quarter. Speaker 500:15:13Year to date average AUM Was $139,000,000,000 down 5% from last year. Our complete GAAP and adjusted results are presented in our earnings release. Revenues in the quarter increased 2% compared to last quarter on higher average AUM. Compared to the Q3 of 2022, Revenues were up 6% on higher average AUM. Performance fee revenue has been insignificant since 2021. Speaker 500:15:43We are on track to earn some performance fees in the 4th quarter, although the amounts remains relatively small as only 3% of our AUM Have performance fee billing arrangements. Adjusted operating expenses for the quarter increased 1% sequentially due to an increase in incentive compensation expenses in line with higher revenues. Adjusted operating income increased 4% The decrease in incentive compensation expenses on lower revenues was offset by an increase in fixed compensation costs related to annual merit increases and a 6% increase in our number of employees compared to September 2022. Our headcount increases continue to be in line with our strategic growth plans and were primarily targeted to investment, Distribution and marketing teams to support our growth initiatives. Travel expenses remain around 35% higher than last year, driven by increased travel related to our global investment strategies and client activity and firm events such as the Investor Day we held in late September. Speaker 500:17:12As a result of lower revenues, year to date adjusted operating income and adjusted net income per adjusted share were both down 15% compared to the 2022 year to date period. Full year expense projections remain consistent with the guidance I provided on the February earnings call. Turning to Slide 10. Our balance sheet continues to support our operations and seed capital needs and provides a healthy cash dividend. We currently have approximately $140,000,000 of seed capital invested in sponsored investment products with significant amounts of realizable capacity. Speaker 500:17:50The ability to support all of these objectives is only possible because of the strong cash flows generated by our business. In addition, the $100,000,000 revolving credit facility remains unused. Given the rise in interest rates, our excess working capital cash Contributed an additional $3,500,000 of interest income in 2023 compared to the 2022 year to date period. Consistent with our dividend policy, our Board of Directors declared a quarterly dividend of $0.65 per share with Back to the September 2023 quarter, which represents approximately 80% of the cash generated in the quarter and an 8% annual dividend yield based on our recent stock price before factoring in the special annual dividend we intend to declare in January. Our Board will consider the declaration of an annual special dividend at our January 2024 Board Meeting. Speaker 500:18:48We expect we will retain some cash from the special dividend as we have in the past several years to support our growth initiatives. In the Q4, we expect the Artisan Funds to complete their annual income and capital gains distributions. Based on our current estimates and assumptions, we expect 4th quarter distributions to result in approximately $400,000,000 of net client cash outflows from investors who choose not to reinvest their distribution. As highlighted in our recent Investor Day, growth is not linear It takes time and patience, and we continue to demonstrate the patience and discipline to grow our business over time to produce durable and high quality results. Slide 12 illustrates the results of our business model and philosophy. Speaker 500:19:38We have delivered quality outcomes for our shareholders since our IPO 10 years ago. We are confident that our commitment to investing in our business will drive future growth, and we remain focused on returning capital to shareholders to generate quality outcomes over long time periods. With that, I will turn the call back to the operator. Operator00:19:59Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. In the interest of time, please limit yourself to 2 questions to allow time for other questions. Our first question comes from John Dunn from Evercore ISI. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:20:34Thank you. Could maybe spend a little time just kind of framing for us the puts and takes of the institutional side of the business Right at this moment. And then maybe just a flavor of like the kind of consultant and institutional mindset and how conversations are going right now? Speaker 200:20:54Yes, sure, John. It's Eric. The just backing away even above the institutional marketplace, We've come off of a pretty big drawdown in 2022 and then a lot of uncertainty here in 2023. So we've seen In general, muted flows compared to 2020 2021. The bigger flows that are happening in the institutional side are sticking out a little bit more. Speaker 200:21:25Primarily, they've been non U. S. Clients in our larger global equity strategies that have been rebalancing or derisking or Acknowledging that there's been regulatory change, which has occurred more in Australia. So you've seen more activity there. And As we look at the put and the take, the flip side is looking forward and there's quite a bit Cash build up that we've seen in money market funds, we're starting to see more people look at their targeted asset allocation and where to put that to work. Speaker 200:22:06So one of the areas we're looking at on the go forward is people rebalancing back to emerging markets and rebalancing In two areas of interest, which is fixed income and alternatives. And more recently, you've seen a pickup in the Dispersion of individual securities within indexes showing And interest leaning towards active management. So I think that muted year so far with an expectation of, money getting put to work next year, back to targeted asset allocation. Speaker 600:22:47Got you. And then maybe just on the 3 new mandates that Speaker 700:22:51you got Speaker 600:22:51recently. Maybe just because it seems like they came together pretty quickly, like could you give us a flavor of how those Came to be and then also is there more might we expect some more activity in those three areas in the medium term? Speaker 200:23:11Yes, certainly, we as everybody is aware, we brought On the EM debt as well as the global unconstrained, the type of investments in Emerging market debt, either requires a larger scale separate account or a pooled vehicle. The earlier, investments In the institutional marketplace around these mandates and we're starting to build a nice track record in the pooled vehicles and That we would have a forward lien in smaller allocations into the pooled vehicle It is our expectation there. So we think it's the M sites team is going as expected. We spent The early months building out the foundation, bringing in the team and allowing the team to Put the proper foundation to build a strong track record. The track record is looking as we expected, Which was a high value added emerging market debt and global unconstrained strategies. Speaker 200:24:31And now we're out in the marketplace Seeking early investors, which we found in the separate accounts and now continuing to Sell with the pool vehicles. Speaker 600:24:46Thank you. Operator00:24:49Our next question comes from Alex Blostein from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:24:55Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for Question, I was hoping we could build on the discussion around emerging markets both in equities and debt. And the point you made around allocated is pulling back From emerging markets in the last year or so, I guess perhaps not too surprising, but when you talk to consultants and institutional allocators and distribution platforms, What do you see as the catalyst to perhaps reignite some of the interest in the asset class? And how are you positioning Artisan to ultimately capitalize if that trend reverses. Thanks. Speaker 200:25:27Hi, Alex. It's Eric. What really interests us And this discussion is that, that change is going to occur here. Either people are going to pull back from emerging markets and reduce their allocation They're or they're going to look at their target allocation and have to re up to that target and put money to work. So there in our mind, there's going to be money in motion. Speaker 200:25:54And when there's money in motion, it gives us an Credible opportunity given the array of strategies we have. So we're not sure if there's going to be an uptick or a downtick, but we definitely know people are going to have to We think about their emerging market allocation, look at how they're structuring it using equity debt, Active, passive and the marketplace is going through that right now and it's a great time for us to get out and showcase the breadth of emerging market strategies we've built inside the firm. And on top of that, if they do reduce emerging markets, they're going to go to Higher value added international or global strategies that have a higher allocation to emerging markets, to pick up that exposure, Which you wouldn't see in a passive strategy. So again, it actually benefits active international or global equity mandates, which we are Very well positioned for. So, we're just excited about that the topic is Coming to market and we're starting to see that topic come out with institutional clients and consultants. Speaker 700:27:02Interesting. All right. Thanks for that. CJ, question for you maybe just around margins and expenses, a bit of a 2 parter, but I guess one, I know it's you guys are probably going through the budgeting processes, but any early thoughts on 2024 expense outlook, particularly around the non variable portion of the expense base. But also bigger picture at the Investor Day and I think in the slides today, You sort of alluded to the idea that over time, the margin as a business was much higher than what you guys have currently kind of in the mid-30s versus low-30s right now. Speaker 700:27:37In the last decade, we've all been operating in a much more favorable market backdrop with probably higher market beta maybe than what's on the comp. But How do you think about ability to get back to that mid-30s percent margin, if market tailwinds are less sort of robust than what we've seen in the past? Thanks. Speaker 500:27:55Yes, sure Alex. So first off, we've invested pretty heavily in sort of our new capabilities over the last couple of years. So I think we've A good amount of expense investment, which has obviously impacted our margin. And we shouldn't underscore the effects of inflation as well and just the increase of cost of doing business where Employee costs are higher as a result of inflation. Many of our vendors including mostly data Technology vendors are increasing prices to offset those inflationary pressures they have. Speaker 500:28:38Our fee rates remain stable. And so the offset then is margin. We do we are early in the budgeting process, I would expect us to continue to invest in distribution and marketing. I think a fair amount of the lift has been done, but there will be some more. And I can give you better clarity in January. Speaker 500:29:03But I would assume normal inflationary plus 1% or 2% expectations for cost increases next year. And then getting back to the margin, we are built to handle a much larger amount of AUM and we have the And the products to do it, their performance is there. And now it's just about giving ourselves the time and being patient, to Capture that growth opportunity. And if we do, our margins will respond accordingly. Okay. Speaker 500:29:42Thanks so much. Operator00:29:50And our next question comes from Michael Brown from KBW. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:29:56Okay, great. Thanks for taking my question. So I was just looking at Slide 2 and I guess the private credit bubble that's up at the top right there, It stands out. It's obviously a very hot asset class today in asset management land. So I Speaker 200:30:11just wanted to expand Speaker 400:30:12on maybe where you can lean in more. It sounds Like you are certainly leaning in with Brian Kruegan and the credit team. And I wanted to just hear a little bit more about what that opportunity looks And how that could grow and maybe if you could size it a little bit for me. And then is there any desire to be Larger there, would you consider bringing on a team to have a more true, bigger capability in the private credit space and what That goes into that decision today given it is, of course, a pretty hot asset class. Speaker 200:30:46Yes, certainly. It's Derek. The private credit space has built up substantially over the last few years. In our minds, it's clearly Solidified a space in long term asset allocation. So it then becomes an area of interest for us. Speaker 200:31:08And so with that category, we'll keep an eye on it and patiently wait for An opportunity to think about, our existing teams or new teams, to provide Strategies and opportunities to invest. With regards to chasing a hot asset class and space, We have certainly not been well positioned to chase hot asset classes. Typically, it's very hard to find talent during this peak excitement, And you have to have a strong, almost retail distribution to tap that in a very short Term period. So with regards to something happen in the near term around private credit, it would Appenant and our existing team has one off investments in the high degree of freedom oriented strategies where we would see opportunities come. And we've been broadening out with Brian Krug that you mentioned. Speaker 200:32:23We have a fairly broad and robust credit platform. The Credit Opportunities and now the dislocation fund, Both of those are really taking advantage of the smaller public Credit markets that, I guess, have been somewhat forgotten and ignored, in capturing a illiquid premium in that, which we think is an incredible opportunity. We also are expanding out with the M sites and the Global Unconstrained, which is a macro aware, go anywhere strategy that is Long, short in design. So those are the areas that we're leaning into the alternative credit. I think we just list The private credit to keep an eye, over the long term and which is no different than how we looked at emerging markets over the last 10 years, and it It took us quite a while to find the right team, and we brought the M sites team in. Speaker 200:33:23So That's our thought on the upper end of the credit spectrum. Speaker 400:33:33Okay, great. Thanks for that, Eric. You've been making some shifts in your distribution capability and making investments there. You referenced the recent hire dedicated to the alt space. I guess what's next in terms of investing in that distribution channel? Speaker 400:33:49Where would you be kind of focused either by channel, regen or asset class? Speaker 200:33:56Yes. I think the important thing is we believe we have a very strong distribution team that's focused And the highlights are less about, increasing expenses, to get more scale and broaden Now and more about prioritizing and aligning resources to who we are today. And given the number of strategies and the complexity of those strategies, it's very hard for channels or geographies To sell and service. So most of the change we're talking about is how we're managing the business to align to who we are today. So there is shift going on to get that focus and create more accountability into our sales effort and our service effort. Speaker 200:34:46And that's the big change that we're talking about. Speaker 400:34:52Okay, great. Thank you for taking my questions. Operator00:34:56There are no more questions in the queue. This concludes our question and answer session and the conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Hello, and thank you for standing by. My name is Jason, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the prepared remarks, management will conduct a question and answer session and conference participants will be given instructions at that time. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. Operator00:00:19At this time, I will turn the call over to Artisan Partners Asset Management. Speaker 100:00:25Welcome to the Artisan Partners Asset Management Business Update and Earnings Call. Before we begin today, I would like To remind you that comments made during today's call, including responses to questions, may include forward looking statements. These are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties, including but not limited to the factors set forth in our earnings release and detailed in our SEC filings. These risks and uncertainties may cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed in the statements, and we assume no obligation to update or revise any of these statements following the presentation. During today's call, we will be discussing our Investor Day, which took place on September 27 in New York and online. Speaker 100:01:19Materials from the Investor Day and a replay of the presentation are available on our Investor Relations website. The Investor Day presentation also included forward looking statements that were current as of the time they were made, but Not been updated to reflect any changes in circumstances. In addition, some of our remarks today We'll include references to non GAAP financial measures. You can find reconciliations of those measures to the most comparable GAAP measures in the earnings release and the supplemental materials, which can be found on our Investor Relations website. Also, please note that nothing on this call constitutes an offer or solicitation to purchase I will now turn it over to Eric Colson, our CEO. Speaker 200:02:23Thank you for joining the call or reading the transcript. On September 27, we held our 1st Investor Day. After more than 10 years as a public company, we wanted to review who we are as an investment firm, Describe how we have evolved our business and compounded wealth for clients and highlight the team and platform we have in place for future growth. The title of the Investor Day was the power of quality compounding. We wanted to reinforce the power of compounding, the 8th wonder of the world and reinforce the power and potential of Artisan Partners, a firm designed and operated to compound wealth, careers and outcomes over long periods of time. Speaker 200:03:05As an illustration, a hypothetical portfolio of $1,000,000 invested at inception of each of Artisan's 28 strategies Launch to clients would have grown to nearly $117,000,000 net of fees as of September 30, 2023. This amount is nearly $43,000,000 or 58%, more than if the same amounts had been invested in the passive benchmarks most often used to assess our strategy's performance. That's a good example of the power of compounding and the long term performance of Artisan Partners. Another goal of our Investor Day was to introduce more members of our business management team. We have a group of senior leaders who know the investment industry and are aligned with who we are as a high value added investment firm. Speaker 200:03:55This group gives us the breadth and depth to continue our repeatable franchise development process, further expand our investment in business capabilities At the Investor Day, Jason Gottlieb, our President, Let a detailed discussion of our franchise development process, the positioning and potential of our existing investment strategies and areas where we may expand in the future. Today, Jason is joining CJ and me, and I have asked him To update you on the status of our credit oriented business as well as opportunities we see in emerging markets. Speaker 300:04:35Thank you, Eric. Our expansion into credit is a case study in our repeatable franchise development process. Slide 2 should look familiar. It shows the spaces we are focused on and our methodical build out in these areas. As we discussed at the Investor Day, we pursue asset classes where we see the overlap of exceptional talent, large investment opportunity sets for differentiation and alpha generation, large addressable markets with long term allocators and good fit with for strategic expansion of our business model and operating platform. Speaker 300:05:0910 years ago, we did not have any of these capabilities shown on this slide. Today, we have an investment offering in each of these areas except private credit. Earlier this week, we completed the first close of the Artisan Dislocation Opportunities Fund. The fund is a closed end drawdown vehicle managed by Brian Krug and the credit team. Throughout his career, Brian has exploited opportunities in dislocated markets. Speaker 300:05:36Dislocation Opportunities Fund is designed to provide clients with When I think about the lineup on this slide, what is most notable to me We have demonstrated that our philosophy and process works for clients and talent beyond public equities. In short, these strategies have performed. Since inception and after fees, the high income strategy has delivered 193 basis points of average annual alpha Credit opportunities, 751 basis points floating rate, 50 basis points global unconstrained, 603 basis points emerging market debt opportunities 939 basis points and emerging market local opportunities 255 basis points. During the Q3, we continued to capitalize on this success and grow these businesses. We on boarded a $425,000,000 institutional account in emerging market local opportunities. Speaker 300:06:38We onboarded a $250,000,000 institutional account in Global Unconstrained and the high income strategy had another strong quarter of flows, bringing year to date net inflows to over $1,000,000,000 for that strategy. Looking ahead at the near term, We are particularly focused on credit opportunities and global unconstrained strategies. Both have outstanding track records with differentiated portfolios. We will also continue to round out and further diversify the high income business and execute on early opportunities for the Emsights Capital Group. While we have made significant progress in expanding our credit capabilities, we are still in the early innings. Speaker 300:07:20We have a tremendous opportunity with our 2 existing teams and there is great potential to leverage our operational platform with additional fixed income talent. As we move forward, we expect to do more in high value added credit, but we will remain patient for the right opportunities that are consistent with our repeatable process. Turning to Slide 3. With the addition of the Emsights Capital Group, we now offer 5 emerging markets investment strategies, 3 focused on equities and 2 focused on credit. We don't include Global Unconstrained as an EM strategy, given its broad mandate to seek return and manage risk across developed and developing markets. Speaker 300:08:03It is no secret that emerging markets investing has been rough. Over the last decade, the MSCI EM Equity Index has returned 2.07% annually compared to 7.55% for the ACWI Index and 11.91 for the S and P 500. Flows haven't been good either. In 2022, $90,000,000,000 Speaker 200:08:25flowed out Speaker 300:08:25of EM Debt Strategies and $4,000,000,000 flowed out of EM Equity Strategies. 2023 has seen a continuation of these trends in EM Debt with EM Equity seeing modest inflows. We take a long term approach. Emerging Markets accounts for over 40% of global GDP and even greater share of global growth. Emerging Markets offers a large and growing investment opportunity set. Speaker 300:08:50There is ample opportunity for differentiation and alpha and clients want and need active risk management. Yes, allocators are dialing down EM allocations right now, especially to China. Long term, We believe that emerging markets will be an important source of return and diversification for our sophisticated allocators. While others are retrenching from emerging markets, we continue to move forward carefully and with discipline. We have long experience in emerging markets. Speaker 300:09:22We launched the Artisan Sustainable Emerging Market Strategy in 2006 and Artisan Developing World Strategy in 2015. More recently, in addition to launching the Emsights Capital Group, we have built out our China Post venture team with 7 individuals operating out for our Hong Kong office. Our developing world team now has talent in Hong Kong as well, and we recently obtained regulatory approval We have no illusions about the challenges presented by geopolitics and China in particular. These take judgment and patience to navigate, but we have never tried to time markets or short term demand. We look for the overlap of talent, opportunity and business fit. Speaker 300:10:10When we find it, we move forward, we build and we remain patient. Over the long term, we continue to believe that emerging markets will present opportunities that allocators want and need to access. We have today and will have in the future a compelling lineup of talent and strategies to fit those needs. Speaker 400:10:30Thank you, Jason. Speaker 200:10:33Slide 4 summarizes our growth since 1995. Our growth has been a function of compounding wealth for existing clients, adding new capabilities and assets over time and patience. As we've added investment capabilities and assets, We've invested in the distribution capabilities that support them. At the Investor Day, listeners heard from our Head of Global Distribution, Chris Krine. Our distribution model is a hybrid approach. Speaker 200:11:01Traditionally, our investment team specific business leaders have marketed and serviced Institutional clients and consultants, while our centralized sales teams have marketed and serviced Their own channels or geographies. We have hired excellent people, provided compelling incentives and sold and serviced across multiple channels and geographies with modest headcount and total spend. Over time, So the number and complexity of our investment strategies has grown considerably. And historical distribution channels are converging, making distinctions Like institutional and intermediary, less relevant. What it takes to sell and service as a sophisticated asset allocator is increasingly similar, whether it's a pension fund, institutional consultant, broker dealer research department or family office. Speaker 200:11:57We are involving to increase intentionality and focus by improving alignment between our distribution professionals, content and marketing and data. We will continue to have high caliber talent and compelling incentives, but we are creating more structure and coordination, We're clearly delineating sales and service responsibilities. We are clarifying sales priorities, and we're producing more investment content and better coordinating that content with sales and service efforts. And we are collecting, generating and using more data to improve the effectiveness Let me give you two examples to illustrate this evolution. First, we recently hired our 1st individual to focus exclusively on marketing our alternative strategies. Speaker 200:12:49His near term focus is on marketing the credit opportunity strategy as well as related co investment style opportunities that are a derivative of what the credit team does, such as dislocation opportunities. 2nd, we are identifying specific strategies where we have compelling near and medium term opportunities in aligning people, resources, content and data to increase our focus and improve our feedback loops. These more structured marketing efforts increase the probability of near and medium term success and serve as a model for the future. All of this evolution is consistent with who we are and how we have historically evolved. We have always sought to align people, resources, incentives and opportunities. Speaker 200:13:38At the Investor Day, We also described why we are confident we will continue to compound wealth for clients, scale our newer strategies, add additional capabilities and continue to generate high quality outcomes for our clients, employees and shareholders. We have expanded across more investment teams, asset classes and geographies. We have a repeatable process for identifying, recruiting, Onboarding and partnering with investment talent. Our operational platform has more capabilities than ever. We are evolving our distribution model, and we have in place a business management team with deep industry and artisan specific experience It is extremely well positioned to move us forward. Speaker 200:14:24I will now turn it over to C. J. To discuss our recent financial results. Speaker 500:14:30Thanks, Eric. The decline in equity markets during the quarter drove our assets under management down to 136,500,000,000 As of September 30, that's a 5% decrease from the June 30 AUM and 7% higher than our AUM at the start of 2023. Declines in global market indices contributed meaningfully to the decline in our AUM. Net client outflows, primarily in global equity mandates also contributed to the AUM declines. Average AUM was $142,200,000,000 for the quarter, up 2% compared to last quarter and up 7% compared to the prior year September quarter. Speaker 500:15:13Year to date average AUM Was $139,000,000,000 down 5% from last year. Our complete GAAP and adjusted results are presented in our earnings release. Revenues in the quarter increased 2% compared to last quarter on higher average AUM. Compared to the Q3 of 2022, Revenues were up 6% on higher average AUM. Performance fee revenue has been insignificant since 2021. Speaker 500:15:43We are on track to earn some performance fees in the 4th quarter, although the amounts remains relatively small as only 3% of our AUM Have performance fee billing arrangements. Adjusted operating expenses for the quarter increased 1% sequentially due to an increase in incentive compensation expenses in line with higher revenues. Adjusted operating income increased 4% The decrease in incentive compensation expenses on lower revenues was offset by an increase in fixed compensation costs related to annual merit increases and a 6% increase in our number of employees compared to September 2022. Our headcount increases continue to be in line with our strategic growth plans and were primarily targeted to investment, Distribution and marketing teams to support our growth initiatives. Travel expenses remain around 35% higher than last year, driven by increased travel related to our global investment strategies and client activity and firm events such as the Investor Day we held in late September. Speaker 500:17:12As a result of lower revenues, year to date adjusted operating income and adjusted net income per adjusted share were both down 15% compared to the 2022 year to date period. Full year expense projections remain consistent with the guidance I provided on the February earnings call. Turning to Slide 10. Our balance sheet continues to support our operations and seed capital needs and provides a healthy cash dividend. We currently have approximately $140,000,000 of seed capital invested in sponsored investment products with significant amounts of realizable capacity. Speaker 500:17:50The ability to support all of these objectives is only possible because of the strong cash flows generated by our business. In addition, the $100,000,000 revolving credit facility remains unused. Given the rise in interest rates, our excess working capital cash Contributed an additional $3,500,000 of interest income in 2023 compared to the 2022 year to date period. Consistent with our dividend policy, our Board of Directors declared a quarterly dividend of $0.65 per share with Back to the September 2023 quarter, which represents approximately 80% of the cash generated in the quarter and an 8% annual dividend yield based on our recent stock price before factoring in the special annual dividend we intend to declare in January. Our Board will consider the declaration of an annual special dividend at our January 2024 Board Meeting. Speaker 500:18:48We expect we will retain some cash from the special dividend as we have in the past several years to support our growth initiatives. In the Q4, we expect the Artisan Funds to complete their annual income and capital gains distributions. Based on our current estimates and assumptions, we expect 4th quarter distributions to result in approximately $400,000,000 of net client cash outflows from investors who choose not to reinvest their distribution. As highlighted in our recent Investor Day, growth is not linear It takes time and patience, and we continue to demonstrate the patience and discipline to grow our business over time to produce durable and high quality results. Slide 12 illustrates the results of our business model and philosophy. Speaker 500:19:38We have delivered quality outcomes for our shareholders since our IPO 10 years ago. We are confident that our commitment to investing in our business will drive future growth, and we remain focused on returning capital to shareholders to generate quality outcomes over long time periods. With that, I will turn the call back to the operator. Operator00:19:59Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. In the interest of time, please limit yourself to 2 questions to allow time for other questions. Our first question comes from John Dunn from Evercore ISI. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:20:34Thank you. Could maybe spend a little time just kind of framing for us the puts and takes of the institutional side of the business Right at this moment. And then maybe just a flavor of like the kind of consultant and institutional mindset and how conversations are going right now? Speaker 200:20:54Yes, sure, John. It's Eric. The just backing away even above the institutional marketplace, We've come off of a pretty big drawdown in 2022 and then a lot of uncertainty here in 2023. So we've seen In general, muted flows compared to 2020 2021. The bigger flows that are happening in the institutional side are sticking out a little bit more. Speaker 200:21:25Primarily, they've been non U. S. Clients in our larger global equity strategies that have been rebalancing or derisking or Acknowledging that there's been regulatory change, which has occurred more in Australia. So you've seen more activity there. And As we look at the put and the take, the flip side is looking forward and there's quite a bit Cash build up that we've seen in money market funds, we're starting to see more people look at their targeted asset allocation and where to put that to work. Speaker 200:22:06So one of the areas we're looking at on the go forward is people rebalancing back to emerging markets and rebalancing In two areas of interest, which is fixed income and alternatives. And more recently, you've seen a pickup in the Dispersion of individual securities within indexes showing And interest leaning towards active management. So I think that muted year so far with an expectation of, money getting put to work next year, back to targeted asset allocation. Speaker 600:22:47Got you. And then maybe just on the 3 new mandates that Speaker 700:22:51you got Speaker 600:22:51recently. Maybe just because it seems like they came together pretty quickly, like could you give us a flavor of how those Came to be and then also is there more might we expect some more activity in those three areas in the medium term? Speaker 200:23:11Yes, certainly, we as everybody is aware, we brought On the EM debt as well as the global unconstrained, the type of investments in Emerging market debt, either requires a larger scale separate account or a pooled vehicle. The earlier, investments In the institutional marketplace around these mandates and we're starting to build a nice track record in the pooled vehicles and That we would have a forward lien in smaller allocations into the pooled vehicle It is our expectation there. So we think it's the M sites team is going as expected. We spent The early months building out the foundation, bringing in the team and allowing the team to Put the proper foundation to build a strong track record. The track record is looking as we expected, Which was a high value added emerging market debt and global unconstrained strategies. Speaker 200:24:31And now we're out in the marketplace Seeking early investors, which we found in the separate accounts and now continuing to Sell with the pool vehicles. Speaker 600:24:46Thank you. Operator00:24:49Our next question comes from Alex Blostein from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:24:55Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for Question, I was hoping we could build on the discussion around emerging markets both in equities and debt. And the point you made around allocated is pulling back From emerging markets in the last year or so, I guess perhaps not too surprising, but when you talk to consultants and institutional allocators and distribution platforms, What do you see as the catalyst to perhaps reignite some of the interest in the asset class? And how are you positioning Artisan to ultimately capitalize if that trend reverses. Thanks. Speaker 200:25:27Hi, Alex. It's Eric. What really interests us And this discussion is that, that change is going to occur here. Either people are going to pull back from emerging markets and reduce their allocation They're or they're going to look at their target allocation and have to re up to that target and put money to work. So there in our mind, there's going to be money in motion. Speaker 200:25:54And when there's money in motion, it gives us an Credible opportunity given the array of strategies we have. So we're not sure if there's going to be an uptick or a downtick, but we definitely know people are going to have to We think about their emerging market allocation, look at how they're structuring it using equity debt, Active, passive and the marketplace is going through that right now and it's a great time for us to get out and showcase the breadth of emerging market strategies we've built inside the firm. And on top of that, if they do reduce emerging markets, they're going to go to Higher value added international or global strategies that have a higher allocation to emerging markets, to pick up that exposure, Which you wouldn't see in a passive strategy. So again, it actually benefits active international or global equity mandates, which we are Very well positioned for. So, we're just excited about that the topic is Coming to market and we're starting to see that topic come out with institutional clients and consultants. Speaker 700:27:02Interesting. All right. Thanks for that. CJ, question for you maybe just around margins and expenses, a bit of a 2 parter, but I guess one, I know it's you guys are probably going through the budgeting processes, but any early thoughts on 2024 expense outlook, particularly around the non variable portion of the expense base. But also bigger picture at the Investor Day and I think in the slides today, You sort of alluded to the idea that over time, the margin as a business was much higher than what you guys have currently kind of in the mid-30s versus low-30s right now. Speaker 700:27:37In the last decade, we've all been operating in a much more favorable market backdrop with probably higher market beta maybe than what's on the comp. But How do you think about ability to get back to that mid-30s percent margin, if market tailwinds are less sort of robust than what we've seen in the past? Thanks. Speaker 500:27:55Yes, sure Alex. So first off, we've invested pretty heavily in sort of our new capabilities over the last couple of years. So I think we've A good amount of expense investment, which has obviously impacted our margin. And we shouldn't underscore the effects of inflation as well and just the increase of cost of doing business where Employee costs are higher as a result of inflation. Many of our vendors including mostly data Technology vendors are increasing prices to offset those inflationary pressures they have. Speaker 500:28:38Our fee rates remain stable. And so the offset then is margin. We do we are early in the budgeting process, I would expect us to continue to invest in distribution and marketing. I think a fair amount of the lift has been done, but there will be some more. And I can give you better clarity in January. Speaker 500:29:03But I would assume normal inflationary plus 1% or 2% expectations for cost increases next year. And then getting back to the margin, we are built to handle a much larger amount of AUM and we have the And the products to do it, their performance is there. And now it's just about giving ourselves the time and being patient, to Capture that growth opportunity. And if we do, our margins will respond accordingly. Okay. Speaker 500:29:42Thanks so much. Operator00:29:50And our next question comes from Michael Brown from KBW. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:29:56Okay, great. Thanks for taking my question. So I was just looking at Slide 2 and I guess the private credit bubble that's up at the top right there, It stands out. It's obviously a very hot asset class today in asset management land. So I Speaker 200:30:11just wanted to expand Speaker 400:30:12on maybe where you can lean in more. It sounds Like you are certainly leaning in with Brian Kruegan and the credit team. And I wanted to just hear a little bit more about what that opportunity looks And how that could grow and maybe if you could size it a little bit for me. And then is there any desire to be Larger there, would you consider bringing on a team to have a more true, bigger capability in the private credit space and what That goes into that decision today given it is, of course, a pretty hot asset class. Speaker 200:30:46Yes, certainly. It's Derek. The private credit space has built up substantially over the last few years. In our minds, it's clearly Solidified a space in long term asset allocation. So it then becomes an area of interest for us. Speaker 200:31:08And so with that category, we'll keep an eye on it and patiently wait for An opportunity to think about, our existing teams or new teams, to provide Strategies and opportunities to invest. With regards to chasing a hot asset class and space, We have certainly not been well positioned to chase hot asset classes. Typically, it's very hard to find talent during this peak excitement, And you have to have a strong, almost retail distribution to tap that in a very short Term period. So with regards to something happen in the near term around private credit, it would Appenant and our existing team has one off investments in the high degree of freedom oriented strategies where we would see opportunities come. And we've been broadening out with Brian Krug that you mentioned. Speaker 200:32:23We have a fairly broad and robust credit platform. The Credit Opportunities and now the dislocation fund, Both of those are really taking advantage of the smaller public Credit markets that, I guess, have been somewhat forgotten and ignored, in capturing a illiquid premium in that, which we think is an incredible opportunity. We also are expanding out with the M sites and the Global Unconstrained, which is a macro aware, go anywhere strategy that is Long, short in design. So those are the areas that we're leaning into the alternative credit. I think we just list The private credit to keep an eye, over the long term and which is no different than how we looked at emerging markets over the last 10 years, and it It took us quite a while to find the right team, and we brought the M sites team in. Speaker 200:33:23So That's our thought on the upper end of the credit spectrum. Speaker 400:33:33Okay, great. Thanks for that, Eric. You've been making some shifts in your distribution capability and making investments there. You referenced the recent hire dedicated to the alt space. I guess what's next in terms of investing in that distribution channel? Speaker 400:33:49Where would you be kind of focused either by channel, regen or asset class? Speaker 200:33:56Yes. I think the important thing is we believe we have a very strong distribution team that's focused And the highlights are less about, increasing expenses, to get more scale and broaden Now and more about prioritizing and aligning resources to who we are today. And given the number of strategies and the complexity of those strategies, it's very hard for channels or geographies To sell and service. So most of the change we're talking about is how we're managing the business to align to who we are today. So there is shift going on to get that focus and create more accountability into our sales effort and our service effort. Speaker 200:34:46And that's the big change that we're talking about. Speaker 400:34:52Okay, great. Thank you for taking my questions. Operator00:34:56There are no more questions in the queue. This concludes our question and answer session and the conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by