NASDAQ:BRY Berry Q3 2023 Earnings Report $2.34 +0.08 (+3.54%) As of 04:00 PM Eastern Earnings HistoryForecast Berry EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.15Consensus EPS $0.33Beat/MissMissed by -$0.18One Year Ago EPS$0.55Berry Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$222.08 millionExpected Revenue$194.82 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$27.26 millionYoY Revenue Growth-15.30%Berry Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2023Date11/1/2023TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateWednesday, November 1, 2023Conference Call Time11:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsBerry's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, April 29, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Wednesday, April 30, 2025 at 11:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Berry Q3 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 1, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Berry Corporation Q3 2023 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker, Todd Crabtree with Investor Relations. Operator00:00:43Todd, the floor is yours. Speaker 100:00:47Thank you, Liz, and welcome, everyone. Thank you for joining us for Berry's Q3 2023 earnings webcast. Earlier today, Berry issued an earnings release highlighting 2023 Q3 results. Speaking this morning will be Fernando Orajo, our Chief Executive and Mike Helm, our Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to call your attention to the Safe Harbor language found in our earnings release that was issued this morning. Speaker 100:01:12The release and today's discussion contain certain projections and other forward looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in these statements. These include risks and other factors outlined in our filings with the SEC, including our 10 Q, which will be filed later today. Our website, boi.com, has a link to the earnings release and our most recent investor presentation. Any information, including forward looking statements mentioned in today's call and related GAAP measures. Speaker 100:02:05We will also post the replay link of this call and the transcript on our website. I will now turn the call over to Fernando. Speaker 200:02:14Thanks, Todd. Welcome everyone and thank you for joining us. In the Q3, we continued to deliver Strong financial and operational results generating $70,000,000 in adjusted EBITDA and producing 25,300 barrels a day. We executed on our strategy to maximize shareholder value And generate meaningful and sustainable cash flow. In line with our shareholder return model, the Board declared total dividends of $0.21 per share, 50% increase compared to the prior quarter. Speaker 200:02:47We are currently on track to meet our goal to deliver 2023 cash returned in the high single digits based on our current stock price. On September 15, We closed our $70,000,000 acquisition of McPherson Energy Corporation, delivering on our strategy to acquire accretive Producing bolt on assets. We have integrated the McPherson assets and people into Berry and have identified and already started implementing several initiatives that will reduce long term cost and improve free cash flow. When we announced this acquisition, we said that we expected these assets to enhance Berry's Free cash flow by 15% to 25% in 2024. Based on our cost savings opportunities Implemented so far, we now expect to exceed these free cash flow estimates. Speaker 200:03:42On average daily production in Q3 was higher than the average for the This is an outstanding achievement considering that we are on track to spend approximately 30% less Capital in 2023 than originally planned due to a reallocation of capital to fund a portion of the MacPherson transaction. Base production continues to outperform our expectations for the year, especially in the thermal diatomide reservoir where we have optimized our steam injection strategy, The results of which Are shown on Slide 12 of our investor deck. We expect our 2023 production to be in the mid range of guidance, which has Increased in connection with the closing of the MacPherson Trafton Tax. Our ongoing initiatives to lower operating and G and A expenses continue to bear fruit. Operating expenses on a BOE basis were about 10% lower in the Q3 than the first half of the year. Speaker 200:04:45Similarly, we reduced adjusted G and A by more than $2,000,000 or 12% quarter over quarter. We are still focused on lowering our cost structure in Q4 into 2024. In Q3, we had a promising test results from a well targeting light oil and gas reservoirs, which Do not require steam to produce in an undeveloped block in the Midway Sunset field. We are still executing the testing program. Initial production results are exceeding our expectations and are being sold via existing infrastructure. Speaker 200:05:21This project highlights the quality of our oil rich assets in the San Joaquin Basin even after 100 years of production. There are still meaningful opportunities remaining across our acreage. I'm excited about this new growing opportunities and look forward to providing further updates in the coming months. I will now turn the call over to Mike. Speaker 300:05:45Thank you, Fernando. As always, more information is available in our earnings release issued this morning and in our 10 Q filing available later today, but here are a few highlights. We delivered another quarter of strong financial and operational results. We generated adjusted EBITDA totaling $70,000,000 and adjusted free cash flow of $35,000,000 each were a slight increase quarter over quarter. In accordance with our shareholder return model, 20% of the 3rd quarter adjusted free cash flow will be used to pay a variable dividend, And we use the remaining 80% to fund a portion of the McPherson acquisition. Speaker 300:06:21Most of the adjusted free cash flow expected to be generated in the 4th quarter will be used for debt reduction. We are actively evaluating the optimal use of the free cash flow we plan to generate in 2024 and beyond. With the enhanced cash flows from the Pearson acquisition, we currently expect to further improve our leverage, including through debt reduction. We'll provide additional details on those efforts in conjunction with announcing our 2024 capital plans in the Q1 of next year. Berry continues to achieve its operational and financial targets. Speaker 300:06:52We're delivering strong cash flows and remain well positioned to continue to maximize shareholder returns, while looking at ways to optimize our dynamic shareholder return model. Back to you, Fernando. Speaker 200:07:03Thanks, Mike. Our 3rd quarter results demonstrate our ongoing ability to maintain operational excellence and deliver strong shareholder returns. We are on track to meet our annual operating And production goals with lower CapEx and G and A expenses. We're also excited about the new development opportunity in our Midway Sunset field. Additionally, we are aggressively pursuing accretive producing growth opportunities in and outside of California And we'll support our overall strategy to enhance future free cash flows and shareholder value. Speaker 200:07:38With that, I will turn the call over to the operator for questions. Operator00:07:44Great. Thank you. At this time, we will conduct a question and answer session. Please standby while we compile the Q and A roster. The first question will be coming from Charles Meade with Johnson Rice. Operator00:08:20Your line is now open. Speaker 400:08:22Good morning, Fernando and Mike and to the whole Berry team there. Speaker 200:08:28Fernando, Speaker 400:08:31you mentioned that my question is about this new Play, there's a new development concept in Midway Sunset. I guess there's 2 aspects of the question. One, you mentioned that It's performing better than your expectations, but could you give us a sense of what your expectations are? And maybe as part of that, you can tell us give us an idea for what this means at the kind of individual project or well level, what kind of productivity or what kind of resources are we talking about? And what your sense is of the total inventory of this kind of opportunity? Speaker 200:09:10That's a very good question, Charles. Let me give you a little background on the project itself. We're currently testing an undeveloped block In the north end of our Midway Sunset field and this block is subdivided into different full blocks. And we are targeting deeper reservoirs, oil and gas reservoirs, which should be recoverable without steam. Now these are Stacked reservoirs, we're talking about 3 or 4 different reservoirs. Speaker 200:09:35And in this first well, this first sidetrack, we're testing 7 different intervals. Now the deeper of the intervals, that's the one that we've tested so far in the Santos formation. We're seeing production in the low triple digits, Which is better than our normal production from development activities in California. So that's very encouraging. Now outside of this sidetrack, we also have 2 recompletions that we executed in the same block. Speaker 200:10:06And we're currently producing oil and gas from those recompletions as well from the shallower Antelope reservoir. Now one thing to note is that for Future development, we could develop this field with mostly sidetracks as we've got about 100 or so idle wells Nearby that we can utilize to sidetrack and develop this field possibly. And then in terms of potential, obviously, we're still evaluating This asset and we'll update you in due time, but we're looking at potential opportunities in terms of locations in the mid Double digits for now. It could be better than that depending on the results that we have. But again, it's very, very encouraging and we'll be drilling the second well, the offset well Well, in this block come at the end of November. Speaker 200:10:56So there's more information to come, but it is very, very exciting. Speaker 400:11:00Yes, it sounds that way. Is the Santos a traditional field pay? Are you guys testing new horizons that have not historically been developed? Speaker 200:11:11No, we are currently not producing from the Santos ourselves, but we have offset operators, nearby operators that have produced from the Santos In the past. Speaker 400:11:22Got it. Got it. Yes, that does sound really compelling. The second question, if that other one didn't count. I feel like Fernando, I feel like you guys were telegraphing in your press release that, you're I guess you're angling more towards non California acquisition opportunities. Speaker 400:11:46Should we think about those as being in Utah, which is your other operating area? Or are you trying to signal that you're looking beyond Utah? Speaker 200:11:56Let me give you the full story on that. And yes, we are aggressively pursuing M and A activity in and outside of California. We're looking for scale. In California, we're still focusing on bolt ons, similar to the McPherson that we can add value and realize operational efficiencies. But outside of California, we're really focusing on accretive assets, assets with known geology, assets where we can maintain our production Flat and that's maintained our cash flow deliverability flat for years to come. Speaker 200:12:31In terms of basins, initially, We're focusing in the Western Rockies, basins like the Yuen Ta, Peons, Powder River. But in reality, we're basin agnostic. If we find the right assets with the right opportunity, Where we can maintain our production flat and deliver cash returns, that will be an asset that we look at. Speaker 400:12:55Great. I appreciate that in detail. Thank you. Operator00:13:01Please stand by for the next question. The next question comes from Nicholas Pope with Seaport Research. Nicholas Pope, you are live. Speaker 500:13:20Good morning, everyone. Speaker 200:13:22Good morning, Fash. Speaker 500:13:25I was hoping to follow on a little bit with Charles' question on M and A. Kind of in that same line of thinking, curious how you're thinking about funding, Any potential acquisitions? Obviously, with the McPherson, you could pull down on CapEx. You got a fair amount drawn on the credit facility Here coming out of the quarter. So just curious what the thinking is as you look at some of this potential M and A about How you might fund it, either through cash or through what's available in the credit facility? Speaker 300:14:00Yes, Nick, this is Mike. A couple of ways to think about that. When you think about kind of the smaller ones, the bolt on types like McPherson, we do like using the RBL. And part of the reason we like doing that is Yes, we can get it paid off really quickly. And then once that's paid off quickly, you can get the cash flow the cash flow just falls right to the bottom line. Speaker 600:14:22To your point, we are Speaker 300:14:23on the line and we just finished the McPherson acquisition just before the end of the quarter. So it's not surprising to see the RBL in use there at the end of the quarter. But part of the story there is capital reallocation. So we have started reducing our capital. We'll Continue to do that for the rest of the year and even looking into next year maybe to really help fund the purchase price of McPherson. Speaker 300:14:50And we would do something similar to a similar bolt on. So that's why those things kind of pay off quickly. As for larger acquisitions, yes, it really depends on what the opportunity is and kind of who we're talking to. We think there's multiple ways to finance that including equity in addition to raising debt. And in that regard, it would have to make sense from All of our financial metrics including leverage, we really aren't we don't have the appetite to increase our leverage on a long term basis. Speaker 300:15:23So You have to make sense from the financial metrics, but those are really kind of the ways that we're thinking about it. Speaker 500:15:31Got it. That's very helpful. Thank you. And then kind of back to the this new development Work that you all are doing in Midway Sunset. Just clarification, is this any planned development? Speaker 500:15:47Is that all Expected to be vertical development, is that like fairly kind of lower cost, nothing no big horizontals, is that the right way to think about this? Speaker 200:15:58Yes, that's correct. It would be a vertical development. If we were to drill new wells, it would be vertical with sidetracks. It would be directional just because we would have to access the reservoir through the existing wellbores, but it's not a horizontal play. It's a vertical play. Speaker 500:16:16I appreciate it. That's all I have. Thanks, guys. Operator00:16:24Please standby for the next question. The next call comes from Stephen Busch with Everglades Resources Inc. Your line is now open. Speaker 600:16:56Good morning, gentlemen. Thank you for taking my call. Speaker 200:17:00So on Speaker 600:17:02these sidetrack possibilities, You're doing that so that they don't require permits. Is that correct? Speaker 200:17:12Well, they do require Permits, but it's not a new well permit. It's similar to a workover permit for an existing well. Speaker 600:17:20And that's Still being given out in California? Speaker 200:17:25Yes. California is still industry is still getting workover permits and sidetrack permits. That's correct. Speaker 600:17:30Okay, perfect. And how is the permit outlook in general for new wells? Speaker 200:17:39In terms of specific numbers for us, we currently have about 34 permits In hand, sidetrack permits in hand that we expect to execute and utilize in 2024. Outside of that, got it in a separate bucket. We've got about 26 permits that we call contingent and they're contingent because they're contingent on further technical work and results. And on top of that, we've submitted well over 100 permits, in fact, I know 45 permits for new wells and sidetracks, 80 of which already have what we call CEQA approval from CalGEM. And then additional to that, we also have over 100 Workover permits in hand. Speaker 200:18:21The message here is that we have a lot of permits in hand for activity coming up especially for the first half of twenty twenty four. Speaker 600:18:30Okay. That's good to know. So just a quick question on the derivative hedges. I mean, it's always up and down. Those are all mark to market and not cash. Speaker 600:18:39Is that correct? Speaker 300:18:44Some of it The losses that show up in the income statement are predominantly mark to market. You're right. Speaker 600:18:52Okay. And then But you just saw Speaker 300:18:53a big swing in the right. Sorry, go ahead. Speaker 600:18:57Are we doing any naked derivatives or is it all covered with production, etcetera? Speaker 300:19:04Well, it's all covered. Speaker 600:19:06Right. So there's no speculating. I just want to make sure of that part. Speaker 300:19:09No, no, no. Absolutely not. And there's a lot of reasons why it's Speaker 600:19:13Absolutely. Okay, perfect. That's all I have. Look forward to hearing more. Speaker 200:19:20Thank you for the questions. Operator00:19:22I am showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn it back to Chief Executive Officer, Fernando Araujo. Speaker 200:19:32Thank you, everyone, and thank you for your interest in Berry. Thank you for Time, if we don't talk before Thanksgiving, happy Thanksgiving to all. 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There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Berry Corporation Q3 2023 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker, Todd Crabtree with Investor Relations. Operator00:00:43Todd, the floor is yours. Speaker 100:00:47Thank you, Liz, and welcome, everyone. Thank you for joining us for Berry's Q3 2023 earnings webcast. Earlier today, Berry issued an earnings release highlighting 2023 Q3 results. Speaking this morning will be Fernando Orajo, our Chief Executive and Mike Helm, our Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to call your attention to the Safe Harbor language found in our earnings release that was issued this morning. Speaker 100:01:12The release and today's discussion contain certain projections and other forward looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in these statements. These include risks and other factors outlined in our filings with the SEC, including our 10 Q, which will be filed later today. Our website, boi.com, has a link to the earnings release and our most recent investor presentation. Any information, including forward looking statements mentioned in today's call and related GAAP measures. Speaker 100:02:05We will also post the replay link of this call and the transcript on our website. I will now turn the call over to Fernando. Speaker 200:02:14Thanks, Todd. Welcome everyone and thank you for joining us. In the Q3, we continued to deliver Strong financial and operational results generating $70,000,000 in adjusted EBITDA and producing 25,300 barrels a day. We executed on our strategy to maximize shareholder value And generate meaningful and sustainable cash flow. In line with our shareholder return model, the Board declared total dividends of $0.21 per share, 50% increase compared to the prior quarter. Speaker 200:02:47We are currently on track to meet our goal to deliver 2023 cash returned in the high single digits based on our current stock price. On September 15, We closed our $70,000,000 acquisition of McPherson Energy Corporation, delivering on our strategy to acquire accretive Producing bolt on assets. We have integrated the McPherson assets and people into Berry and have identified and already started implementing several initiatives that will reduce long term cost and improve free cash flow. When we announced this acquisition, we said that we expected these assets to enhance Berry's Free cash flow by 15% to 25% in 2024. Based on our cost savings opportunities Implemented so far, we now expect to exceed these free cash flow estimates. Speaker 200:03:42On average daily production in Q3 was higher than the average for the This is an outstanding achievement considering that we are on track to spend approximately 30% less Capital in 2023 than originally planned due to a reallocation of capital to fund a portion of the MacPherson transaction. Base production continues to outperform our expectations for the year, especially in the thermal diatomide reservoir where we have optimized our steam injection strategy, The results of which Are shown on Slide 12 of our investor deck. We expect our 2023 production to be in the mid range of guidance, which has Increased in connection with the closing of the MacPherson Trafton Tax. Our ongoing initiatives to lower operating and G and A expenses continue to bear fruit. Operating expenses on a BOE basis were about 10% lower in the Q3 than the first half of the year. Speaker 200:04:45Similarly, we reduced adjusted G and A by more than $2,000,000 or 12% quarter over quarter. We are still focused on lowering our cost structure in Q4 into 2024. In Q3, we had a promising test results from a well targeting light oil and gas reservoirs, which Do not require steam to produce in an undeveloped block in the Midway Sunset field. We are still executing the testing program. Initial production results are exceeding our expectations and are being sold via existing infrastructure. Speaker 200:05:21This project highlights the quality of our oil rich assets in the San Joaquin Basin even after 100 years of production. There are still meaningful opportunities remaining across our acreage. I'm excited about this new growing opportunities and look forward to providing further updates in the coming months. I will now turn the call over to Mike. Speaker 300:05:45Thank you, Fernando. As always, more information is available in our earnings release issued this morning and in our 10 Q filing available later today, but here are a few highlights. We delivered another quarter of strong financial and operational results. We generated adjusted EBITDA totaling $70,000,000 and adjusted free cash flow of $35,000,000 each were a slight increase quarter over quarter. In accordance with our shareholder return model, 20% of the 3rd quarter adjusted free cash flow will be used to pay a variable dividend, And we use the remaining 80% to fund a portion of the McPherson acquisition. Speaker 300:06:21Most of the adjusted free cash flow expected to be generated in the 4th quarter will be used for debt reduction. We are actively evaluating the optimal use of the free cash flow we plan to generate in 2024 and beyond. With the enhanced cash flows from the Pearson acquisition, we currently expect to further improve our leverage, including through debt reduction. We'll provide additional details on those efforts in conjunction with announcing our 2024 capital plans in the Q1 of next year. Berry continues to achieve its operational and financial targets. Speaker 300:06:52We're delivering strong cash flows and remain well positioned to continue to maximize shareholder returns, while looking at ways to optimize our dynamic shareholder return model. Back to you, Fernando. Speaker 200:07:03Thanks, Mike. Our 3rd quarter results demonstrate our ongoing ability to maintain operational excellence and deliver strong shareholder returns. We are on track to meet our annual operating And production goals with lower CapEx and G and A expenses. We're also excited about the new development opportunity in our Midway Sunset field. Additionally, we are aggressively pursuing accretive producing growth opportunities in and outside of California And we'll support our overall strategy to enhance future free cash flows and shareholder value. Speaker 200:07:38With that, I will turn the call over to the operator for questions. Operator00:07:44Great. Thank you. At this time, we will conduct a question and answer session. Please standby while we compile the Q and A roster. The first question will be coming from Charles Meade with Johnson Rice. Operator00:08:20Your line is now open. Speaker 400:08:22Good morning, Fernando and Mike and to the whole Berry team there. Speaker 200:08:28Fernando, Speaker 400:08:31you mentioned that my question is about this new Play, there's a new development concept in Midway Sunset. I guess there's 2 aspects of the question. One, you mentioned that It's performing better than your expectations, but could you give us a sense of what your expectations are? And maybe as part of that, you can tell us give us an idea for what this means at the kind of individual project or well level, what kind of productivity or what kind of resources are we talking about? And what your sense is of the total inventory of this kind of opportunity? Speaker 200:09:10That's a very good question, Charles. Let me give you a little background on the project itself. We're currently testing an undeveloped block In the north end of our Midway Sunset field and this block is subdivided into different full blocks. And we are targeting deeper reservoirs, oil and gas reservoirs, which should be recoverable without steam. Now these are Stacked reservoirs, we're talking about 3 or 4 different reservoirs. Speaker 200:09:35And in this first well, this first sidetrack, we're testing 7 different intervals. Now the deeper of the intervals, that's the one that we've tested so far in the Santos formation. We're seeing production in the low triple digits, Which is better than our normal production from development activities in California. So that's very encouraging. Now outside of this sidetrack, we also have 2 recompletions that we executed in the same block. Speaker 200:10:06And we're currently producing oil and gas from those recompletions as well from the shallower Antelope reservoir. Now one thing to note is that for Future development, we could develop this field with mostly sidetracks as we've got about 100 or so idle wells Nearby that we can utilize to sidetrack and develop this field possibly. And then in terms of potential, obviously, we're still evaluating This asset and we'll update you in due time, but we're looking at potential opportunities in terms of locations in the mid Double digits for now. It could be better than that depending on the results that we have. But again, it's very, very encouraging and we'll be drilling the second well, the offset well Well, in this block come at the end of November. Speaker 200:10:56So there's more information to come, but it is very, very exciting. Speaker 400:11:00Yes, it sounds that way. Is the Santos a traditional field pay? Are you guys testing new horizons that have not historically been developed? Speaker 200:11:11No, we are currently not producing from the Santos ourselves, but we have offset operators, nearby operators that have produced from the Santos In the past. Speaker 400:11:22Got it. Got it. Yes, that does sound really compelling. The second question, if that other one didn't count. I feel like Fernando, I feel like you guys were telegraphing in your press release that, you're I guess you're angling more towards non California acquisition opportunities. Speaker 400:11:46Should we think about those as being in Utah, which is your other operating area? Or are you trying to signal that you're looking beyond Utah? Speaker 200:11:56Let me give you the full story on that. And yes, we are aggressively pursuing M and A activity in and outside of California. We're looking for scale. In California, we're still focusing on bolt ons, similar to the McPherson that we can add value and realize operational efficiencies. But outside of California, we're really focusing on accretive assets, assets with known geology, assets where we can maintain our production Flat and that's maintained our cash flow deliverability flat for years to come. Speaker 200:12:31In terms of basins, initially, We're focusing in the Western Rockies, basins like the Yuen Ta, Peons, Powder River. But in reality, we're basin agnostic. If we find the right assets with the right opportunity, Where we can maintain our production flat and deliver cash returns, that will be an asset that we look at. Speaker 400:12:55Great. I appreciate that in detail. Thank you. Operator00:13:01Please stand by for the next question. The next question comes from Nicholas Pope with Seaport Research. Nicholas Pope, you are live. Speaker 500:13:20Good morning, everyone. Speaker 200:13:22Good morning, Fash. Speaker 500:13:25I was hoping to follow on a little bit with Charles' question on M and A. Kind of in that same line of thinking, curious how you're thinking about funding, Any potential acquisitions? Obviously, with the McPherson, you could pull down on CapEx. You got a fair amount drawn on the credit facility Here coming out of the quarter. So just curious what the thinking is as you look at some of this potential M and A about How you might fund it, either through cash or through what's available in the credit facility? Speaker 300:14:00Yes, Nick, this is Mike. A couple of ways to think about that. When you think about kind of the smaller ones, the bolt on types like McPherson, we do like using the RBL. And part of the reason we like doing that is Yes, we can get it paid off really quickly. And then once that's paid off quickly, you can get the cash flow the cash flow just falls right to the bottom line. Speaker 600:14:22To your point, we are Speaker 300:14:23on the line and we just finished the McPherson acquisition just before the end of the quarter. So it's not surprising to see the RBL in use there at the end of the quarter. But part of the story there is capital reallocation. So we have started reducing our capital. We'll Continue to do that for the rest of the year and even looking into next year maybe to really help fund the purchase price of McPherson. Speaker 300:14:50And we would do something similar to a similar bolt on. So that's why those things kind of pay off quickly. As for larger acquisitions, yes, it really depends on what the opportunity is and kind of who we're talking to. We think there's multiple ways to finance that including equity in addition to raising debt. And in that regard, it would have to make sense from All of our financial metrics including leverage, we really aren't we don't have the appetite to increase our leverage on a long term basis. Speaker 300:15:23So You have to make sense from the financial metrics, but those are really kind of the ways that we're thinking about it. Speaker 500:15:31Got it. That's very helpful. Thank you. And then kind of back to the this new development Work that you all are doing in Midway Sunset. Just clarification, is this any planned development? Speaker 500:15:47Is that all Expected to be vertical development, is that like fairly kind of lower cost, nothing no big horizontals, is that the right way to think about this? Speaker 200:15:58Yes, that's correct. It would be a vertical development. If we were to drill new wells, it would be vertical with sidetracks. It would be directional just because we would have to access the reservoir through the existing wellbores, but it's not a horizontal play. It's a vertical play. Speaker 500:16:16I appreciate it. That's all I have. Thanks, guys. Operator00:16:24Please standby for the next question. The next call comes from Stephen Busch with Everglades Resources Inc. Your line is now open. Speaker 600:16:56Good morning, gentlemen. Thank you for taking my call. Speaker 200:17:00So on Speaker 600:17:02these sidetrack possibilities, You're doing that so that they don't require permits. Is that correct? Speaker 200:17:12Well, they do require Permits, but it's not a new well permit. It's similar to a workover permit for an existing well. Speaker 600:17:20And that's Still being given out in California? Speaker 200:17:25Yes. California is still industry is still getting workover permits and sidetrack permits. That's correct. Speaker 600:17:30Okay, perfect. And how is the permit outlook in general for new wells? Speaker 200:17:39In terms of specific numbers for us, we currently have about 34 permits In hand, sidetrack permits in hand that we expect to execute and utilize in 2024. Outside of that, got it in a separate bucket. We've got about 26 permits that we call contingent and they're contingent because they're contingent on further technical work and results. And on top of that, we've submitted well over 100 permits, in fact, I know 45 permits for new wells and sidetracks, 80 of which already have what we call CEQA approval from CalGEM. And then additional to that, we also have over 100 Workover permits in hand. Speaker 200:18:21The message here is that we have a lot of permits in hand for activity coming up especially for the first half of twenty twenty four. Speaker 600:18:30Okay. That's good to know. So just a quick question on the derivative hedges. I mean, it's always up and down. Those are all mark to market and not cash. Speaker 600:18:39Is that correct? Speaker 300:18:44Some of it The losses that show up in the income statement are predominantly mark to market. You're right. Speaker 600:18:52Okay. And then But you just saw Speaker 300:18:53a big swing in the right. Sorry, go ahead. Speaker 600:18:57Are we doing any naked derivatives or is it all covered with production, etcetera? Speaker 300:19:04Well, it's all covered. Speaker 600:19:06Right. So there's no speculating. I just want to make sure of that part. Speaker 300:19:09No, no, no. Absolutely not. And there's a lot of reasons why it's Speaker 600:19:13Absolutely. Okay, perfect. That's all I have. Look forward to hearing more. Speaker 200:19:20Thank you for the questions. Operator00:19:22I am showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn it back to Chief Executive Officer, Fernando Araujo. Speaker 200:19:32Thank you, everyone, and thank you for your interest in Berry. Thank you for Time, if we don't talk before Thanksgiving, happy Thanksgiving to all. And once again, thank you for your time. Operator00:19:47Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program and you may now disconnect.Read moreRemove AdsPowered by