PPL Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the PPL Corporation Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions]

I would now like to turn the conference over to Andy Ludwig, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Andrew Ludwig
Vice President, Investor Relations at PPL

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining the PPL Corporation conference call on third quarter 2023 financial results. We provided slides for this presentation on the Investors section of our website.

Begin today's call with updates from Vince Sorgi, PPL President and CEO; and Joe Bergstein, Chief Financial Officer, and conclude with a Q&A session following our prepared remarks.

Before we get started, I'll draw your attention to Slide 2 and a brief cautionary statement. Our presentation today contains forward-looking statements about future operating results or other future events. Actual results may differ materially from these forward-looking statements. Please refer to the appendix of this presentation and PPL's SEC filings for a discussion of some of the factors that could cause actual results to differ from the forward-looking statements.

We'll also refer to non-GAAP measures, including earnings from ongoing operations or ongoing earnings on this call. For reconciliations to the comparable GAAP measures, please refer to the appendix.

I'll now turn the call over to Vince.

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

Thank you, Andy, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to our third quarter investor update. Let's start with an overview of our financial results on Slide 4. Today, we announced third quarter reported earnings of $0.31 per share. Adjusting for special items, third quarter earnings from ongoing operations were $0.43 per share compared with $0.41 per share a year ago. These results position us well to deliver our 2023 earnings guidance, despite the significant impact of mild weather and storms in the first half of the year.

As Joe will cover in his financial review, we've been successful in overcoming these headwinds through effective regulatory mechanisms, our continued focus on operating efficiently and outperformance in several other areas. The team has done an outstanding job in keeping us on track to deliver our 2023 financial objectives, while providing energy safely and reliably to our customers.

As a result of our progress through Q3, we have narrowed our 2023 ongoing earnings forecast range to $1.55 to $1.60 per share, with the midpoint of $1.58 per share unchanged. As we look to close out the year in strong fashion, we also remain on track to invest nearly $2.5 billion to modernize the grid, strengthen grid resiliency, and advance a cleaner energy mix. In addition, we are on pace to achieve our targeted $50 million to $60 million in O&M efficiencies this year.

Looking forward, we've reaffirmed our projected earnings per share and dividend growth rates of 6% to 8% through at least 2026 as we remain confident in our low-risk business plan. This growth is supported by our $12 billion capital investment plan and targeted O&M savings of at least $175 million by 2026 to advance a reliable, resilient, affordable and cleaner energy future. We expect to fund this growth without the need for equity issuances through at least 2026, while maintaining superior credit metrics and one of the strongest balance sheets in our sector.

Turning to Slide 5 and some operational highlights. We continue to deliver top quartile reliability and advance industry-leading grid innovation that drives efficiency and improves service to our customers as we execute our utility of the future strategy. In support of this work, the Department of Energy has selected PPL Electric Utilities and Rhode Island Energy to receive a combined $100 million in federal funding for planned smart grid projects in our service territories. The projects that were selected by the DoE were generally included in our current capital plan. However, these grants will certainly help to support affordability for our customers, which we remain keenly focused on.

Our Pennsylvania project will extend PPL Electric's self-healing smart grid, already one of the most sophisticated energy networks in the nation, to further enhance grid reliability and resiliency. Meanwhile, our Rhode Island project will accelerate Rhode Island Energy's investment in grid resilience and smart grid capabilities to support the state's leading clean energy goals.

The process to receive this funding through the IIJA was highly competitive. PPL was one of only a few companies to be selected for multiple awards in this initial round of funding. As we focus on creating the utilities of the future that are agile, innovative, and technology enabled, we continue to be recognized for our leadership in the smart grid space. During the third quarter, PPL Electric Utilities received two additional awards for innovative industry-leading work that has helped improve the safety, reliability and affordability of electricity delivered to our more than 1.5 million customers in Pennsylvania.

Moving to Rhode Island, we remain focused on supporting Rhode Island's clean energy goals and bringing more affordable offshore wind opportunities to the state. On October 13, we issued an RFP to procure 1,200 megawatts of offshore wind to help power the state's energy needs. The RFP was the state's largest ever renewable energy solicitation and was issued just a week after Connecticut, Massachusetts and Rhode Island signed a memorandum of understanding, paving the way for a potential multi-state selection of offshore wind opportunities.

Each state is conducting procurements in a similar timeframe, and we are hopeful that our larger procurement, a streamlined application process, flexibility on contract durations, and the potential for multi-state coordination will provide better economies of scale for developers and reasonable pricing options for our customers. Bids are due by January 31, with any resulting selection expected next summer. Any PPAs agreed to by Rhode Island Energy would be subject to review and approval by the Rhode Island Public Utilities Commission.

Lastly on this slide, LG&E began contract negotiations a few weeks ago for a labor contract that expires on November 10. The contract covers more than 600 of our employees in Kentucky. For decades, we have successfully worked together with our unions in Kentucky to reach agreement, and we are optimistic we can continue that success. We look forward to continued progress over the coming days and weeks to achieve an outcome that balances the needs of our employees and our customers. And importantly, the company has completed its preparedness plan to ensure we can continue to deliver safe and reliable service to our customers, should negotiations break down.

Moving to Slide 6 for a couple of key regulatory updates. We remain focused on advancing our generation investment plan as we seek to replace up to 1,500 megawatts of aging coal generation with an affordable, reliable and cleaner energy mix by 2028. We continue to believe that our plan represents the best path forward for our Kentucky customers. As proposed, it would replace several 1970s era coal units with over 1,200 megawatts of new combined cycle natural gas generation, nearly 1,000 megawatts of solar generation, and 125 megawatts of battery storage.

In addition, it would establish more than a dozen new energy efficiency programs. The Kentucky Public Service Commission conducted public hearings in August, followed by post-hearing briefs in September. The hearings as well as the intervener briefs have largely been as expected. And looking forward, we continue to expect a decision from the Commission by November 6.

Shifting to Rhode Island, in late September, we received regulatory approval to deploy advanced metering functionality state-wide as we lay the foundation for a smarter, more resilient, reliable and dynamic grid that supports the state's leading climate goals. As part of its unanimous decision, the Rhode Island Public Utilities Commission authorized capital investments of up to $153 million for this initiative. We are pleased with the outcome of the Commission's decision for this important project.

Advanced metering functionality, which we've deployed in Pennsylvania and are currently deploying in Kentucky, is a key step in modernizing our energy networks. And as we've seen in our other service territories, it delivers significant benefits for our customers. We expect to begin installing the digital meters in late 2024 and to complete the deployment over the next three years, capitalizing on our experience in both Pennsylvania and Kentucky. These investments will also be largely recoverable through the annual ISR process in Rhode Island.

That concludes my operational update. I'll now turn the call over to Joe for the financial update.

Joseph P. Bergstein
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at PPL

Thank you, Vince, and good morning, everyone. Let's turn to Slide 8. PPL's third quarter GAAP earnings were $0.31 per share compared to $0.24 per share in Q3 2022. We recorded special items of $0.12 per share during the third quarter, primarily due to the integration and related expenses associated with the acquisition of Rhode Island Energy. Adjusting for these special items, third quarter earnings from ongoing operations were $0.43 per share, an improvement of $0.02 per share compared to Q3 2022. The primary drivers of the $0.02 per share increase were favorable transmission and DSIC rider revenues in Pennsylvania and lower O&M in Kentucky, partially offset by higher interest expense due to increased borrowings. While weather was a significant factor in our earnings for the first half of the year, for the third quarter, weather did not materially impact our financial results versus our expectations.

Turning to the ongoing segment drivers for the quarter on Slide 9. Our Pennsylvania Regulated segment results increased by $0.02 per share year over year. Results were primarily driven by higher transmission revenue and higher distribution rider recovery, partially offset by higher interest expense and higher O&M expense related to IT amortization costs. Our Kentucky segment results increased by $0.02 per share year over year. Results were primarily driven by lower O&M expense, partially offset by higher interest expense. Our Rhode Island segment results decreased by $0.01 per share compared to 3Q 2022, primarily driven by higher O&M expense, as we had fewer open positions this year than we did in the third quarter of 2022 when we were in the early stages of staffing up our teams. Finally, results at Corporate and Other decreased $0.01 per share compared to the prior year, primarily due to higher interest expense.

Moving to Slide 10, our Q3 performance puts PPL's ongoing earnings at $1.20 per share for the first nine months of 2023 or a 6% increase compared to the same period last year. As Vince noted, our teams have done a fantastic job of executing our plan and have positioned us well to offset the significantly unfavorable weather and storm impacts we experienced in the first half of the year to deliver the midpoint of our earnings forecast. And as outlined on our second quarter call, we expected to achieve this objective through several areas, which are being reflected in our year-to-date results.

In Pennsylvania, the DSIC mechanism has already more than offset the sales volume and storm cost implications in this segment. Our Rhode Island integration continues to go well, and we've already achieved our targeted ongoing earnings forecast for the year, setting us up to achieve the $0.01 to $0.02 per share of outperformance that we discussed on the Q2 call. And finally, the team continues to focus on operating the business efficiently, and we expect to achieve at least our targeted O&M savings of $50 million to $60 million this year. We remain very confident in achieving our 2023 earnings forecast due to this excellent year-to-date performance and expect to build on our track record of achieving our financial targets. As a result, we have tightened our forecast range with just a few months remaining in the year and a clear path to deliver on our objectives.

Moving to Slide 11. Recognizing the current macroeconomic environment of higher interest rates, I want to emphasize our strong credit position, one that places PPL among the best in our sector. This is a clear strategic advantage that provides the company with significant financial flexibility, and we continue to project strong credit metrics throughout our planning period, despite the rising cost of new debt. This includes maintaining a 16% to 18% FFO to debt ratio and holdco to total debt ratio below 25%.

During 2023, we've taken proactive steps to mitigate the impact of rising interest rates. This includes the financing activity that we completed during the first quarter, which significantly reduced our floating rate exposure to less than 5% of our total debt portfolio. Looking forward, we have limited near-term refinancing risk through 2025 with zero holding company maturities and just over $600 million of total utility maturities through that time frame. In fact, we have less than $2 billion or just 13% of our total debt portfolio maturing through 2027. Finally, we also continue to be uniquely positioned to continue to fund our growth without requiring equity for the foreseeable future, while maintaining excellent credit metrics. I'm extremely pleased with our position and outlook to execute our plan in this macro environment.

That concludes my prepared remarks. I'll turn the call back over to Vince.

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

Thank you, Joe. In closing, I'm proud of the work our team has done this year to keep us on track to deliver on our commitments to both customers and share owners. As highlighted, we've narrowed our ongoing earnings forecast, achieved significant success in offsetting this year's headwinds from mild weather and storms, and remain confident in our ability to achieve the midpoint of our earnings forecast of $1.58 per share.

At the same time, we've continued to advance key regulatory proceedings, most recently achieving a positive outcome in our AMF filing in Rhode Island. I'm also proud of the rigorous generation replacement plan that our team developed and presented during the CPCN proceeding, a plan that is right for Kentucky. And while we believe our plan is the best plan forward for our customers, we remain confident we will be able to achieve our stated growth targets under a variety of outcomes in that case.

Our integration of Rhode Island Energy continues to proceed as planned, putting us on pace to exit all remaining transition service agreements with National Grid in 2024. We're on track to complete more than $2.5 billion in infrastructure investments this year. And through the third quarter, we are ahead of plan in delivering $50 million to $60 million in targeted O&M savings to drive better value for customers and share owners alike. Across PPL, we continue to make progress in advancing our long-term vision to be the best utility company in the U.S. And I remain excited for our bright future that will continue to deliver for our customers and our share owners.

With that, operator, let's open it up for questions.

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Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And our first question will come from Nick Campanella of Barclays. Please go ahead.

Nicholas Campanella
Analyst at Barclays

Hey, everyone.

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

Morning, Nick.

Nicholas Campanella
Analyst at Barclays

Good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. So hey, I just want to start right off the bat. Sorry if I missed it, but I know that there has been some sales volume declines this year. Obviously, higher interest rates is hurting everyone. To your point, no major maturities in '24, which is great across the business. But can you just confirm as you kind of wrap this all together that you can continue to kind of grow the business from an EPS perspective linearly '24 into '25 and how we should kind of think about that?

Joseph P. Bergstein
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at PPL

Yeah. Hey, Nick. It's Joe. Thanks for the question. Yeah. We expect linear growth through our plan period, as we've talked about before. Obviously, there's market forces at play, as you mentioned, but we think that they're manageable and can deliver that linear growth.

Nicholas Campanella
Analyst at Barclays

That's helpful. And then I know that on the current plan today, there's no rate cases and you'll be staying out. But can you just help us understand what would force you to file, if you had to, in the next few years? Is it more dependent on current regulatory proposals in front of you and Rhode Island and Kentucky and how those go? Or is it more dictated by the size of the capital plan and ROEs? Thanks.

Joseph P. Bergstein
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at PPL

Yeah, sure. Well, you're right. In our current plan, we just have one rate case in Rhode Island in the back half of 2026. There's obviously a lot of factors that go into determining rate case timing, including, and you named a few of them, capital plans, interest rates, regulatory lag on capital that doesn't run through some sort of mechanism, and many, many more. We are going through our business planning process now, Nick, and we assess all of those factors as we do so. We'll provide views on what we think about rate case and potential timing when we give an update on our year end call.

Nicholas Campanella
Analyst at Barclays

All right. Thanks a lot. We'll see you in Arizona. Thank you.

Joseph P. Bergstein
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at PPL

Yep. Great. Thanks.

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

Thanks, Nick.

Operator

The next question comes from David Arcaro of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

David Arcaro
Analyst at Morgan Stanley

Hey. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question.

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

Morning, Dave.

David Arcaro
Analyst at Morgan Stanley

Let's see, with the CPCN, I was wondering we've seen inflation across supply chains fairly broadly in a lot of components. Wondering if costs have risen for the solar that you are requesting and for the CCGTs that you've got in the plan in front of Kentucky since your initial filing.

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

Yeah. David, we have seen cost increases for the replacement generation plan. We updated all of that in our testimony for the Commission. So they have the latest capex estimates for our plan. Those are confidential. So I can't disclose here at this time how much those went up. But even with those higher costs where our analysis is showing that our proposed generation replacement plan is still significantly NPV positive and is again the best option that we are showing for customers. So the Commission has all of that in the record as they're looking at it.

David Arcaro
Analyst at Morgan Stanley

Yeah. Makes sense. So still economic, and I presume so a higher capex, essentially, for kind of the full plan that's in front of the Commission now.

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

That's correct. If the whole plan is approved, it would be incremental to what we had, yes.

David Arcaro
Analyst at Morgan Stanley

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Thanks for that. And then as you look forward toward rolling the capital plan forward a year, should we expect equity to be incorporated into the financing strategy or is there still balance sheet headroom as you look out to add more capex and rate-based growth?

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

Yeah. Joe, do you want to talk about that?

Joseph P. Bergstein
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at PPL

Yeah. Sure. So as I talked about in my prepared remarks, Dave, the balance sheet is strong and we expect to operate in that 16% to 18% FFO or CFO to debt range that we've been talking about. Clearly, we can finance the current capital plan without any need for equity, even in today's market. We'll see as we roll the plan forward, what that looks like. Clearly, we have needs for capital investment beyond what's in our plan and how that comes into view, but feel really good about where our balance sheet is, the strength of the balance sheet and able to maintain our current credit ratings without the need for equity.

David Arcaro
Analyst at Morgan Stanley

Okay. Perfect. Thanks for the color. Appreciate it.

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

Thanks, Dave.

Operator

The next question comes from Shar Pourreza of Guggenheim Partners. Please go ahead.

Shar Pourreza
Analyst at Guggenheim Partners

Hey, guys. Good morning.

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

Morning, Shar.

Shar Pourreza
Analyst at Guggenheim Partners

Morning, Vince. So Vince, I know you mentioned that the O&M savings year to date tracking ahead of the original forecast. That obviously was a key point of the talking points. I guess maybe taking that a step further, can you speak to how you are tracking for the total $175 million by '26? Is there room to exceed now that you've gotten further into it?

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

Well, overall, Shar, we are tracking very well against the $175 million. So obviously, we have that layered in '24, '25, '26. Joe, I'll let you cover a little more detail on kind of the outperformance for '23. Of course, when we are looking at the additional storm costs and weather, those are anomalistic. And so some of the areas that we targeted to help offset that are things like open positions, looking at our maintenance schedules, etc. So some of those things will not be permanent, Shar, but we are tracking very well on the $50 million to $60 million, which obviously are permanent on our way to the $175 million.

Joseph P. Bergstein
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at PPL

Yeah. Got it. I would just add that, as we talked about, we are on track to achieve at least the $50 million to $60 million of efficiencies this year, which gives us confidence in our ability to achieve the $175 million. We have a robust pipeline of initiatives that we are working on. So the team has clearly been extremely focused on delivering on the initiatives that we've established, which is why we are tracking ahead. So feel really good about where we are today and our ability to hit that $175 million.

Shar Pourreza
Analyst at Guggenheim Partners

Got it. Perfect. And then Vince, I know, just to maybe reiterate our conversation from the prior call, I mean, at this point, are you prepared to be flexible in your plans depending on how the Kentucky PSC ultimately rules on the CPCN next week? Is that something, I guess, you will be prepared to talk about right after that at EEI or we have to wait for the 4Q update? Thanks, guys.

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

Sure. So from a communications perspective, Shar, in very timely fashion, we'll respond to the KPSC's decision coming out what we expect would be next Monday. So you'll hear from us shortly after that. Of course, we'll see many of you all, investors and analysts, at the EEI Conference the week after that, so likely be able to get into more detail there. And then we'll do the full business plan update incorporating all of this, plus all the other business plan refreshes on our -- at our normal cadence of the year end call.

As we think about the various outcomes of the CPCN, we've talked about this before. Based on all of the testimony that's been filed, I don't see the outcome being an all or nothing situation regarding the coal plant retirements. But as we just think about the generation portfolio, I've talked about in the past that the capex that would be needed to run those plants safely and reliably if we do not retire them would be in that $500 million to $1.5 billion range, really depending on where we end up on the ELG regulations.

The source of that is we have to put the maintenance capital for the four coal units back in. That would be a couple of hundred million dollars. We have a few SCRs that would have to go on some of the plants, so that's in the $300 million, $400 million range. There's some ancillary environmental upgrades that would also need to be done to keep these plants in compliance. That's about another $100 million. And then the ELG regs, as I said, can be quite a significant amount of investment. But on the low end of the range, we think the estimate there is likely around $150 million. Also, just talked about the CCGTs and if we were to get one and not both, right, there are some incremental capex there as the prices have gone up from what we had -- originally had in our plan.

Beyond the generation portfolio though, we continue to see the need for significant grid enhancing investments in T&D, particularly transmission and especially in Kentucky. As we've talked about in the past, the large generation investments that we've been making in Kentucky have really resulted in less T&D investment there. However, the need there is great, and so we really need to start making those T&D investments, primarily transmission, as soon as we can.

So once we have the decision from the commission, we can factor all of these things into ultimately what the capital plan will look like as we update it. But we feel very confident that the investment needs are there, Shar. We can finance them with the balance sheet that we have that Joe talked about, not only finance them, but finance them without equity. And so it's why we are confident that we should be able to deliver our growth targets really under various scenarios that we might see next week.

Shar Pourreza
Analyst at Guggenheim Partners

Got it. Appreciate it, Vince. That's a really good color. Thanks, guys.

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

Sure. Thanks.

Operator

The next question comes from Angie Storozynski of Seaport. Please go ahead.

Angie Storozynski
Analyst at Seaport Global Securities

Thank you. So I only have one question...

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

Hey, Angie.

Angie Storozynski
Analyst at Seaport Global Securities

Hello. About the fraudulent conveyance lawsuit from Talen. It's -- you guys have tried to have it dismissed. It goes back to 2014. We are talking about potentially very large amounts. And just wonder if you have any comment.

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

Yeah. Angie, no real update since our last call. As you know, the trial date's been set for February of next year. We are looking forward to that trial. As we've said all along, we fully believe the distribution of those proceeds were in compliance with all applicable laws, and we stand ready to vigorously defend that position. So nothing really new. It being in bankruptcy court, not surprising that some of our motions were not accepted, so not surprising there, but still feel very confident in our case.

Angie Storozynski
Analyst at Seaport Global Securities

That's good. Thank you.

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

Thanks, Angie.

Operator

The next question comes from Paul Zimbardo of Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

Morning, Paul.

Paul Zimbardo
Analyst at Bank of America

Hi. Good morning, Vince and team. Just to follow up a little bit on the transmission opportunity side, I know you addressed Kentucky pretty well, but what about the eastern side, the PJM footprint? Like, I think there's like $145 million award. And just holistically, if you could talk about some of the opportunities from Pennsylvania PJM, broadly transmission. Thanks.

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

Yeah. We'll continue to see opportunity for transmission investments in and throughout PJM, to your point. That's an area that we think there's additional opportunity in PPL Electric Utilities, not only supporting within our territory, but also some of the solicitations that are happening to support constraints that are outside of our territory. And as you know, we are active in pursuing those. And so we'll continue to do that. To your point, I think there's additional opportunity beyond what's in the plan. We'll provide more color around that as we provide our more fulsome capital updates and update the plan. But to your point, I definitely see transmission not just in Kentucky as a real need, but also in Pennsylvania and even Rhode Island.

Paul Zimbardo
Analyst at Bank of America

Okay. Excellent. Thought so. And then another one, probably fairly obvious, but just want to check the box there. On the long term -- emphasis on long-term refinancing for cap funding. Like, you're assuming kind of a market interest rate on those maturities for the CAGR purposes?

Joseph P. Bergstein
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at PPL

We are, yes.

Paul Zimbardo
Analyst at Bank of America

Okay. Awesome. Thank you, team.

Joseph P. Bergstein
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at PPL

Yeah. Sure.

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

Thanks, Paul.

Operator

The next question comes from Anthony Crowdell of Mizuho. Please go ahead.

Anthony Crowdell
Analyst at Mizuho Securities

Hey. Good morning, Vince. Good morning, Joe. Just one quick one. Talked about the RFP for offshore wind in Rhode Island. Just curious how committed the state is to offshore wind. As you've noticed, some other states, particularly New York, seems to be balking at higher power prices.

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

Yeah. Look, I think New England in general, Anthony, is committed, right? Their strategy is heavily relying on offshore wind for their clean energy future. We're committed to helping, certainly, Rhode Island help to achieve those goals. I think what you saw in New York was as much procedural as it is pricing, where I think the states have concerns just modifying existing PPAs without reopening those up for bid, because you may get better pricing if you reopen them. So I think it's more process driven than it is just the price.

Having said that, we rejected our original RFP due to price and other factors. So this latest RFP that we issued, we included an upsized RFP to 1,200 megawatts, which is a more efficient generation size for the developers versus the 800-plus that we had originally went out for. We are allowing for a longer PPA term beyond 20 years. And then there's the possibility of a multi-state solution with Massachusetts and Connecticut, as I talked about in my remarks. So hopefully, those things will be enough for the developers to bring the prices down for our customers and at a level that both we and the state will be able to accept. So we'll see.

Anthony Crowdell
Analyst at Mizuho Securities

Great. That's all I had. Thanks for your time. See you in Phoenix.

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

Thanks, Anthony.

Operator

The next question comes from Ryan Levine of Citi. Please go ahead.

Ryan Levine
Analyst at Smith Barney Citigroup

Hi, everybody.

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

Morning, Ryan.

Ryan Levine
Analyst at Smith Barney Citigroup

Just a quick question. In terms of the 2.3% industrial load decline in Kentucky for the quarter on a weather normalized basis, what was the driver of that? And what's your longer-term outlook for industrial growth in Kentucky ahead of the CPCN decision next Monday.

Joseph P. Bergstein
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at PPL

Yeah. Hey, Ryan. It's Joe. Yeah. The -- what you're talking about in Kentucky is that variance is really driven by one large steel manufacturer that's experiencing usage normalization after they saw a large spike during COVID. So they're just normalizing back to where they had been prior to that. And you are seeing that in the year-to-date or the quarterly variances.

As we think about longer term for Kentucky, there's been, and we've talked about it a number of times, significant economic development over the last two years or more, really 2021 and 2022 at $10 billion of economic development each year. The state's expecting another $8 billion this year. It's not all in our service territory, but we are seeing a good portion of it coming to our service territory. So longer-term outlook remains positive for low growth in Kentucky.

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

Yeah. And Ryan, generally, the industrial class, especially in Kentucky, the margins are not as affected by kilowatt-hours as they are predominantly driven on demand and fixed charges. So as Joe said, that was pretty much one customer driving that, but very little impact on margin.

Ryan Levine
Analyst at Smith Barney Citigroup

Appreciate the clarification. See you in Phoenix.

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

Great. Thanks, Ryan.

Joseph P. Bergstein
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at PPL

Thanks.

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Vince Sorgi for any closing remarks.

Vincent Sorgi
President and Chief Executive Officer at PPL

Thanks, operator, and thanks, everybody, for joining us today. As I said, you'll hear from us next week following the decision from the KPSC on the CPCN and then look forward to seeing you all at EEI the following week. So thanks again for joining us. [Operator Closing Remarks]

Corporate Executives
  • Andrew Ludwig
    Vice President, Investor Relations
  • Vincent Sorgi
    President and Chief Executive Officer
  • Joseph P. Bergstein
    Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

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