NASDAQ:MDWD MediWound Q3 2023 Earnings Report $16.29 -0.06 (-0.37%) As of 04:00 PM Eastern Earnings HistoryForecast MediWound EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.24Consensus EPS -$0.45Beat/MissBeat by +$0.21One Year Ago EPS-$0.91MediWound Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$4.78 millionExpected Revenue$4.73 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$50.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/AMediWound Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2023Date11/21/2023TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateTuesday, November 21, 2023Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsMediWound's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 27, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Monday, June 2, 2025 at 8:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by MediWound Q3 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 21, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to MediWound's Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. Please note today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Dan Ferry of LifeSci Advisors. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:31Thank you, operator, and welcome, everyone. Earlier this morning, MediWound issued a press release announcing financial results for the Q3 ended September 30, 2023. You may access this earnings press release on the company's website under the Investors tab. With us today are Ofer Gonin, Chief Executive Officer of MediWound Hani Luxembourg, Chief Financial Officer and Barry Wolfington, Executive Vice President of Strategy and Corporate Development. Following our prepared remarks, we will open the call for Q Speaker 200:01:01and A. Speaker 100:01:02Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that statements made during this call, including the Q and A session, relating to MediWound's expected future performance, future business prospects or future events or plans are forward looking statements as defined under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Although the company believes that the expectations reflected in such forward looking statements are based upon reasonable assumptions, actual outcomes and results are subject to risks and uncertainties and could differ materially from those forecast due to the impact of many factors beyond the control of MediWound. The company assumes no obligation to update or supplement any forward looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Participants are directed to cautionary notes set forth in today's press release as well as risk factors set forth in MediBlue's annual report filed with the SEC for factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated in the forward looking statements. Conference call's property of MediWound and any recording or rebroadcast is expressly prohibited without the written consent of MediWound. Speaker 100:02:12Now I'd like to turn the call over to Ofer Gonin, Chief Executive Officer of MediWound. Ofer? Speaker 300:02:19Good morning, everyone, and thank you, Dan, for the introduction. I'm pleased to welcome you to our Q3 2023 earnings conference call. Joining me today are Hany Luxembourg, our Chief Financial Officer and Barry Wolfensson, our Executive Vice President of Strategy and Corporate Development. I want to start by expressing a sincere thank you from the entire MediWound family for the overwhelming support through e mails, calls, messages that I've received from many of you since October 7 terror attack. This war has significantly impacted the lives of many of our employees and their families. Speaker 300:03:04We feel privileged that our products can contribute to helping victims and make a difference. Our team is working around the clock to ensure we meet the needs of our community, customers, patients and partners. This quarter marks a pivotal period for us with significant achievements that set the stage for consistent future revenue growth. NexoBrid was successfully launched in the United States and Japan. In Europe, we expanded both our presence and the target population. Speaker 300:03:43Global demand has risen, fueled in part by world conflict and governmental actions. We have responded with the necessary reallocation of resources to meet this increase and continue with our plans to aggressively expand our manufacturing capabilities. Looking ahead, preparation for the Phase III study of EscharEx are progressing with an updated protocol shaped by both the FDA and EMA guidance. Anticipated enrollment is set to begin in the second half of twenty twenty four. A new collaboration with the industry leader 3 ms Healthcare further validates EscharEx's anticipated impact on the wound care market. Speaker 300:04:33Let's have a more detailed look at NexoBrid. It has been a very busy and productive period. Notably, at the end of the quarter, we announced United States commercial availability through our partner, Vericel. Vericel's launch of NexoBrid is progressing swiftly. Patients started treatment soon after its commercial release. Speaker 300:04:59Vericel is dedicated to securing market access, obtaining PNT committee approvals and training staff at burn centers. Given the burn care community's positive response to NexoBrid, Vericel expects rapid adoption and significant growth of their burn franchise in 2024 and beyond. Further supporting the commercialization efforts in the U. S. And elsewhere, the Journal of Burn Care and Research published results from the DETECT Phase 3 study. Speaker 300:05:35The study demonstrated that the treatment with NexoBrid resulted in early complete eschar removal in more than 90% of treated burn patients and reduced the need for surgical excision compared to gel vehicle and the standard of care. With Vericel's early success into the Aztecs reception and strong published data, we feel quite confident about NexoBrid's future in the United States. Similarly, in Japan, another major market, NexoBrid was launched this quarter through our partner, Keiken Pharmaceutical. The initial feedback from Kaiken is positive, and it is working diligently to secure contracts in key hospital systems. In Europe, 2 recent developments are expected to bolster our sales. Speaker 300:06:32The first is that the CHMP recommended NexoBrid's label extension to include pediatric indication, expanding NexoBrid availability to all age groups. This recommendation was based on a global Phase III study evaluating NexoBrid in hospitalized pediatric patients as well as additional data from ARIA trials. Pediatric patients with severe terminal burns represents approximately 30% of the total burn population. Therefore, this label extension will significantly increase NexoBrid's addressable market. Secondly, our recently announced collaboration with Polymedix, a burn care market leader, will further the adoption of NexoBrid in Europe by expanding our marketing activities in Germany, Austria, Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg. Speaker 300:07:36This collaboration followed NexoBrid's impressive presence at the recent European Burn Association Congress, where NexoBrid was featured in 20 oral and poster presentations. In addition to these 3 key markets, United States, Japan and the EU, there has been a noticeable rise in global demand for NexoBrid, driven in part by geopolitical conflicts. In Israel, the entire non U. S. NexoBrid inventory has been deployed to hospitals and military to successfully treat these affected by the war. Speaker 300:08:16The positive outcomes achieved with NexoBrid in the field have prompt additional interest from various governments, including Ukraine, for stockpiling the product. In the United States, we secured a $6,500,000 R and D budget from the Department of Defense to advance the development of a new temperature stable formulation for NexoBrid. It is planned to be the first line, non surgical solution for field care burn treatment for the United States Army. All of these developments, major market launches, indication expansion, DoD funding, governmental interest, all of these will accelerate the demand for NexoBrid worldwide. It is therefore critical that we expand our operational capabilities to address this need. Speaker 300:09:15Our primary goal is to ensure that our new GMP compliant, state of the art facility is on schedule for completion by mid-twenty 24, reaching full scale manufacturing capabilities in 2025. To this end, we are focused on assembling the right team and allocating the necessary resources for that. We are thrilled to welcome Doctor. Schmulich Hess as our recently appointed Chief Operating Officer and Chief Commercial Officer. With his extensive experience, we are confident that Doctor. Speaker 300:09:53Hess will play a pivotal role in ensuring the success of our upgraded production and help us refine our commercial strategy. His expertise will undoubtedly contribute to the efforts to meet the escalating market demands effectively. Now I'd like to provide an update on our EscharEx program. We have received guidance from both the FDA and EMA on the protocol for the global Phase III study, indicating our pathway towards approval. With the strong data from our Phase II studies and with the added information we made to the protocol, we are entering the Phase III portion of our clinical development program with great confidence. Speaker 300:10:44The Phase III trial is a multicenter, proskepective, randomized, placebo controlled study evaluating the safety and efficacy of EscharEx in patients with venous leg ulcers. The trial will enroll 2 16 patients equally randomized between EscharEx and the placebo gel vehicle. The trial will focus on 2 core primary endpoints: the incidence of complete debridement at the conclusion of the daily visit period and the incidence of wound closure by the end of the weekly follow-up period. An interim assessment is planned after 67% of the patients have completed the trial. We are currently finalizing the logistic aspect of the trial and anticipate submitting an updated protocol to the FDA in the Q1 of 2024 with patient enrollment to follow by the second half of twenty twenty four. Speaker 300:11:49At the same time, we are also advancing plans for exploratory studies, including a pharmacokinetic study and a human factor study. These are designed to support the BLA of EscharEx and to improve our future commercialization and market access strategies. Much like NexoBrid's notable impact in the burn care market, EscharEx is also attracting significant interest in the chronic wound care sector. This is demonstrated by the interest expected by key market leaders to form research collaborations around our study. To tell you more about these collaborations, I will now turn the call over to Barry. Speaker 300:12:36Barry? Speaker 400:12:38Thanks, Ofer. This quarter, we secured an additional research collaboration partner for our Phase III study, 3 ms Healthcare, which is in addition to the previously announced ones, MiMedx and Momlica. Our primary goals in securing these agreements were to ensure that we minimized as much as possible the variability between study arms and to provide best in class products for patients in our study. As a reminder, we focused on 3 key areas of venous leg ulcer management: 1, compression therapy 2, advanced wound dressings that provide optimal moisture management and 3, a cell or tissue based product to drive active closure, which is key to our endpoint of incidence of wound closure. Propression therapy is part of the gold standard for the management of venous leg ulcers and is an essential component in all the validated clinical practice guidelines for this indication. Speaker 400:13:34The superior benefits of 3 Care's CoBAN2 and CoBAN2 Lite were confirmed in a recent real world evidence retrospective study presented at both the Symposium on Advances in Wound Care and the European Wound Management Association Conference this year. These are the 2 largest annual global wound care conferences. Given the prominent position of this product in the market, we are quite pleased 3M Healthcare will be supplying them for the patients in our study as well as providing the investigators and their teams with the training required to use them appropriately. What happens under the compression wrap system is equally as important. Venous leg ulcers are known to have high levels of wound fluid drainage and since systems such as CoVAN II are designed to remain in place for up to 1 week, managing this moisture so that it is all handled by the dressing is key. Speaker 400:14:27For this, Momlico will provide their category leading Meppolex foam dressings as well as their ExuFiber, ExuFiber AG dressings. Mephilex is the top brand in the largest category of advanced wound dressings, which are called foam dressings. ExuFiber will be included for added moisture management and exuFiber AG for the additional management of localized bioburden. Lastly, a key goal of our Phase III study is to demonstrate that EscharEx significantly improves the facilitation of active closure. Due to the sheer amount of clinical data supporting its use, along with its demonstrated ease of use, the cell or tissue based product to be used in our Phase III study will come from MiMedx, who will provide Epifix their placental tissue allograft. Speaker 400:15:12Epifix will be used on study subjects as soon as the wound is completely debrided and has 100% granulation tissue when autografting is not an option. As a whole, these three class leading collaborations underscore just how significant of a trial this is in the field of wound management and to the anticipation of what EscharEx can mean to the market upon its approval. With that, I'll hand it back to you, Ofer. Speaker 300:15:39Thank you, Barry. In summary, we are making substantial strides towards achieving our strategic goals. NexoBrid has successfully launched in the United States and Japan and is expanding its addressable markets and commercial presence in Europe. The construction and the commissioning of our new manufacturing facility that will support this increased demand are on track. Additionally, EscharEx has attracted collaborations with industry leaders, 3 ms, MiMedx and Molokay, and we are well positioned for our pivotal Phase III trial. Speaker 300:16:17Finally, our solid balance sheet with $46,000,000 in cash is a key strategic asset that empowers us to successfully execute on our main goals: increase NexoBrid revenues, develop EscharEx through FDA approval and reach profitability. To discuss our financials in more detail, I will now hand it over to Hani. Hani? Speaker 500:16:46Thank you, Oscar. Let me begin with our revenues. In this quarter, the company reported revenues of $4,800,000 which is a decrease from the $5,800,000 reported in the same quarter of the previous year. This decrease is primarily due to the absence of a nonrecurring income from BARDA. Gross profit for the quarter stood at $900,000 or 19 percent of total revenue compared to the 2,400,000 or 41.9 percent of total revenue in the Q3 of 2022. Speaker 500:17:27The decrease in gross profit is mainly attributed to the absence of nonrecurring income from BARDA. Turning to our operating expenses. The company's R and D expenses amounted to $1,500,000 a decrease from MXN 2,900,000 in the Q3 of 2022, mainly due to the completion of EscharEx Phase II study. SG and A expenses were reported at CHF2.6 million compared to the $3,100,000 in the same quarter of the previous year. The operating loss for the quarter was $3,000,000 which shows an improvement from a $3,500,000 loss in the Q3 of 2022. Speaker 500:18:20The net loss was reported at $2,200,000 or $0.24 per share compared to the net loss of $4,200,000 or $0.88 per share in the same quarter last year. This improvement is mainly attributed to a favorable adjustment from the revaluation of warrants. The non GAAP adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was a loss of $2,600,000 compared to $2,500,000 loss in the Q3 of 2022. Now let's look at the year to date financial highlights. The company's revenue for the 1st 9 months of 2023 totaled $13,300,000 a decrease from $14,900,000 in the 1st 9 months of 2022. Speaker 500:19:18The operating loss for this period was $11,400,000 compared to the operating loss of $10,500,000 recorded in the same period last year. The net loss for the 1st 9 months was $5,000,000 or $0.56 per share, which is a significant improvement from a net loss of 12 $100,000 or $2.67 per share for the 1st 9 months of 2022. The non GAAP adjusted EBITDA showed a loss of $9,000,000 compared to a loss of $7,900,000 reported in the 1st 9 months of 2022. And now a few words about the balance sheet. As of September 30, 2023, the company's cash, restricted cash and investment were at $46,000,000 an increase from $34,100,000 reported on December 31, 2022. Speaker 500:20:25In the Q1 of 2023, the company successfully raised a gross amount of $27,500,000 During the Q3 of 2023, the company used $5,400,000 to fund its activities. With the current financial standing, the company's cash reserves are expected to support its operations through profitability. With that, I will now turn the call back to Ofer. Ofer? Speaker 600:20:58Thank you, Chani. Speaker 300:21:00This quarter is marked by significant progress for MediWound. Our optimism for NexoBrid's global revenue growth is high, driven by its commercial launches in the United States and Japan, growing presence in the European market and rising global governmental interest. Addressing this surging demand is our foremost priority in the coming months. We are committed to maintaining our manufacturing targets and expanding our production capabilities. We anticipate a substantial increase in NexoBrid revenue following the completion of this scale up. Speaker 300:21:41In parallel, our EscharEx Phase III global study is progressing towards the initiation, guided by the FDA and EMA and bolstered by partnerships with 3 top global wound care companies, EscharEx stands at the forefront of the $2,000,000,000 chronic wound debridement market. It holds a promise to enhancing the lives of millions. With that, we will now open the call for your questions. Operator? Operator00:22:13Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. And today's first question comes from RK with H. C. Wainwright. Operator00:22:41Please go ahead. Speaker 200:22:44Thank you. Good afternoon, Ofer and Hani. Hope you folks are doing well and your families are doing well. So to start off with NexoBrid, in terms of Japan, you said you're getting good feedback. And I'm just trying to see if you can expand on that comment a little bit more. Speaker 200:23:11And also in terms of how does the commercialization work in Japan for Speaker 300:23:21a product like this? Speaker 200:23:24So if you can highlight on both of those, that will be helpful. Speaker 300:23:30Hi, RK. I hope you're well as well. Thank you for the question. So as I said, in Japan, Kaiken Pharmaceutical successfully launched NexoBrid commercially. The Japanese market is quite substantial and more than 6,000 patients that annually receiving the treatment of severe burns, and the majority of them undergoing eschar removal as a critical first step. Speaker 300:24:03The initial feedback, as someone who licenses the product, we get periodically input from them. So the initial feedback is very positive. They are working diligently to secure contracts in key hospital systems. In Japan, there are something like 420 relevant hospitals. For instance, in the United States, the number is only 100 and 20 or placebo. Speaker 300:24:30So there are 400 hospitals. They approached already all of them, and they exposed the product and gave training to many dozens of healthcare professionals. In the first after deploying them the first few batches, they increased their order. But as we say and as we said in the last quarter or 2, currently, there is much more demand for NexoBrid than we can actually manufacture and supply. So we will keep our initial commitment according to the contract. Speaker 300:25:10But the Japanese launch is going as better than expected. Speaker 200:25:16Very good. Then with the added indication of pediatrics in the Europe and the new collaboration with Polymedix, How is this going to work for you folks? And do you think that Polymedix collaboration will give a little bit of a win, especially since you have been in Europe for a while? Speaker 300:25:44Right. So again, it's an interesting question. So the recommendation for the label extension to include also pediatric indication is quite substantial in Europe because around 30% of all the burn patients are considered children, and we got 100% of what we asked from EMA. The label that we got is exactly what we aimed for. The collaboration with CMI, of course, the impact in the near term will not be substantial because Europe reflects what we see in other territories. Speaker 300:26:29We have much more demand than we can actually supply. But we are looking now to 2025, 2026. We want to have a very strong presence in Germany, Austria, Belgium, Netherlands and Luxembourg. In 2026, we're supposed to have full manufacturing capabilities. We want our spread in Europe to be as strong as we can. Speaker 300:26:56And PMI is quite an ideal partner. If you go to European Burn Association Congresses, you will see very few strong companies in wound care. Maybe wound, by the way, is one of them, but PMI is very strong there, and we think it will just defy this collaboration. Speaker 200:27:20Very good. And then the last question is on the manufacturing piece. So as you said, you have a larger demand than what you can supply. So and you're saying by early 2025, you should have manufacturing from the new plant. Do you think you have enough material to support commercialization till then, so that you're not losing on any contracts between now and early 2025? Speaker 300:28:03So this is a tough question. We have commitment to support our clients and our partners. And we also currently, our schedule to complete the GMP compliant state of the art facility is by mid-twenty 24, and we hope to reach full scale manufacturing capability in 2025. By the way, in EMA, it can be quicker. So we need to set priorities, and I think we are very clear with that. Speaker 300:28:38United States and Japan are our top priorities because these are considered the most important market. After that, we have Europe, EU 5. And the rest, we they need to wait. And we might lose some partners in very small countries, but it is what it is. Speaker 200:29:00Very good. Thank you very much, Alper, and talk to you soon. Speaker 300:29:03Thank you. Operator00:29:05Thank you. And our next question comes from Francois Brisebois with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:29:11Hi. Thanks for taking the questions. In terms of the EscharEx trial, can you help us understand maybe the timelines? You talked about an interim assessment. Speaker 300:29:24The start Speaker 600:29:25of the trial, the enrollment starts second half of next year, but do you have an idea when that interim assessment could happen? And what can we expect to see there in terms of outcomes? Is there a look on potential efficacy? Is there opportunity to end the trial early because of overwhelmingly good efficacy? Or just any color on timing and interim assessment expectations? Speaker 600:29:49Thank you. Speaker 300:29:53Hi, Frank, and I appreciate your question. Yes, the Phase III protocol, we have been going back and forth with EMA and the FDA to make sure that they are both aligned with the same requirements because we want EscharEx to be approved globally. We managed to approve an interim assessment. This is our plan after 67% of the participants that completed the trial. We managed to reduce the number of patients. Speaker 300:30:30Last time, we said we will need to recruit 244 patients, But now, especially due to the fact that we have an interim analysis, we're able to do a shorter trial. So now we are guiding a shorter trial, not 24 months rather than 18 months. And the interim assessment will be something like after 15 months. And the data will be it won't be it will be an efficacy data, not a safety data, but there isn't a stopping rule. It's an interim assessment if we see that we don't have enough power for succeeding in the endpoints, we might increase the number of patients, but we will not be able to decrease it. Speaker 300:31:17So the plan is for 2 16 patients, and I hope I answered your question. Speaker 600:31:26Yes. Thank you. And obviously, very unfortunate the reasons for why NexoBrid isn't in such high demand. But can you maybe help us quantify the maybe via multiple or how much is the demand superior to the supply? Is it 2x, 3x times? Speaker 600:31:44And your is it will the manufacturing capability and building be enough for the supply or is it kind of a surge in supply? Just any comment there on manufacturing goals? Would it completely resolve the greater demand and supply? And what would that do to your balance sheet? Speaker 300:32:09Thank you for that, Frank. So as I said, our current sales are limited only by our production facility. We have almost 0 inventory. As you can probably see in the financial statements, you see that they're always marginal. We have at least 3 fold demand more than we can produce. Speaker 300:32:31The scale up is planned to do 6x, okay? So currently, it seems okay. But this scale up, if we work in 2 shifts, it's actually 11x. So we don't see a reason why this manufacturing facility will not be enough to Thank you. Operator00:32:55And Speaker 100:32:58Thank you. Speaker 300:33:01And just answering the second part of the question. So if you look at where if the demand today is 3x on the anaerobicis manufacture, We don't see why a reason why in the year 2025 and 2026 when we have full manufacturing capabilities, why we're not able to sell 4 or 5 times because currently we are just limiting our sales force in order to be able to keep as many partners happy. We cannot supply everything. Operator00:33:42Thank you. And our next question comes from Michael Okunovich with Maxim Group. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:33:49Hey, guys. Thank you for taking my questions today. I guess, first, I'd just like to follow-up on the discussion around the manufacturing scale up. And in particular, does this how this plays into your guidance for tasks supporting you through profitability? I'd like to get a sense of what timelines are kind of baked into that assumption. Speaker 700:34:15Is this kind of the expectation here that the manufacturing scale up given the excess demand could push you into profitability relatively quickly after that's fully up and running? Speaker 300:34:31I think hi, Michael. I think Hany will take that question. Speaker 500:34:35Hi, Michael. Appreciate your question. So our cash restricted cash and investment totaled to $46,000,000 as of the end of the quarter. As you know, we have 2 major expenses going forward. The first one is the Phase III program, which will probably cost approximately $30,000,000 And the second is the remaining cost of the facility scale up, which totals to about $6,000,000 dollars And we expect about $1,000,000 to be covered by BARDA. Speaker 500:35:08So assuming we meet the scala timeline according to plan, which means that the construction by mid will be end by mid 2024 and full scale up manufacturing in 2025. So the NexoBrid is expected to generate meaningful revenue in 2025 and going forward. Accordingly, we anticipate that the profitability in 2026, 2027. Speaker 700:35:41All right. Thank you very much. And then I'd also like to ask a little bit deeper about the research partnerships, in particular, now that we have 3 ms joining in. Do research partners get earlier access to the data or get to follow the trial more closely? I'd like to get a sense if there's some benefit here for partnering or even potential acquisition discussions. Speaker 700:36:05And the reason I ask is because EscharEx seems like it could be a really attractive compound for someone, especially like 3 ms, if they're looking to compete with Santel? Speaker 300:36:17Right. So that's a very important question. And Barry, can you please provide more detail on that? Speaker 400:36:25Sure. Thank you. Thanks for the question. As far as the data that they're going to get, they won't have any early look. At the time that we file the BLA, they will get a package of information that focuses on their specific product and how it fared across the couple of arms in the study. Speaker 400:36:49For them, they get a solid amount of data. There's not too many Phase 3 studies that are done in this space. Certainly not too many studies at all with the rigor with which this study is being done. So they'll get a good set of data, in an actual, controlled study and they'll have, the marketing capability to say that in the most important Phase 3 study to come around in wound care for decades that their product was used as standard of care. That's kind of what they get out of it. Speaker 400:37:20As to the question about M and A licensing, any kind of business development activities. You're right. I would add, just as a little bit of flavor, that 3 ms, as you probably know, is splitting off its healthcare division into a listed entity sometime, I believe, in 2024. They just announced the new name of this entity the past week. So it's becoming a reality. Speaker 400:37:51And the intent of that spin off is to really unlock innovation in that division, which does about $8,000,000,000 I think in sales a year. So would they be a potential good acquirer or licensor of EscharEx? Absolutely. Obviously, our stated intention at this point is to not only bring EscharEx across the finish line, but to commercialize it as well as we believe that that is what will maximize value for our shareholders. But of course, when we get there, we'll always be open to see what prevailing wins are and what the market bears. Speaker 700:38:35All right. Thank you very much. And then just one more and I'll hop back in the queue. I'd like to see if you could expand a little bit on the exploratory studies for EscharEx. Would you be more geared towards generating additional marketing data in BLUs or potentially towards layering in additional indications? Speaker 300:38:58So when we are speaking about exploratory studies at this stage, we're speaking about guidance that we got from the FDA. FDA is interested in us showing that the PK profile of the drug, this study is relatively a small one, 20 patients. And also, there is since EscharEx is a drug which is going to be used at home, FDA also wants us to do something which is called human factor study, just making sure that they are able to read the patients are able to read the information of use. Again, a very small study, even without patients, only healthy volunteers. We might, and we are thinking about it, do additional 1 or 2 studies that will serve the market access, making sure that we are able to charge as maximum as we can after Esterix is approved. Speaker 300:40:05But when we know exactly what we do, we will share it with you and the public. Speaker 700:40:12All right. Thank you very much and congrats on all the progress you made this past quarter. Speaker 300:40:17Thank you. Operator00:40:33And ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Ofer Gonin for any closing remarks. Speaker 300:40:42Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We look forward to updating you again on our next call. Operator00:40:51Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. We thank you all for attendingRead moreRemove AdsPowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallMediWound Q3 202300:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xRemove Ads Earnings DocumentsPress Release(8-K) MediWound Earnings HeadlinesMediWound (NASDAQ:MDWD) Share Price Passes Below 200-Day Moving Average - Should You Sell?April 9, 2025 | americanbankingnews.comMediWound reports Q4 EPS (36c), consensus (61c)March 20, 2025 | markets.businessinsider.comIs it CRAZY to still want reliable profits, despite this market?Larry Benedict, the acclaimed "Market Wizard," is calling an emergency briefing now... 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Email Address About MediWoundMediWound (NASDAQ:MDWD), a biopharmaceutical company, develops, manufactures, and commercializes novel, bio-therapeutic, and non-surgical solutions for tissue repair and regeneration in United States, Europe, and internationally. It markets NexoBrid, a biopharmaceutical product for the removal of eschar, a dead or damaged tissue in adults with deep partial- and full-thickness thermal burns to burn centers and hospitals burn units. The company also develops EscharEx, which has completed Phase II clinical trials for the debridement of chronic and other hard-to-heal wounds; and MW005, which is in phase I/II for the treatment of low-risk basal cell carcinoma. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, and welcome to MediWound's Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. Please note today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Dan Ferry of LifeSci Advisors. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:31Thank you, operator, and welcome, everyone. Earlier this morning, MediWound issued a press release announcing financial results for the Q3 ended September 30, 2023. You may access this earnings press release on the company's website under the Investors tab. With us today are Ofer Gonin, Chief Executive Officer of MediWound Hani Luxembourg, Chief Financial Officer and Barry Wolfington, Executive Vice President of Strategy and Corporate Development. Following our prepared remarks, we will open the call for Q Speaker 200:01:01and A. Speaker 100:01:02Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that statements made during this call, including the Q and A session, relating to MediWound's expected future performance, future business prospects or future events or plans are forward looking statements as defined under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Although the company believes that the expectations reflected in such forward looking statements are based upon reasonable assumptions, actual outcomes and results are subject to risks and uncertainties and could differ materially from those forecast due to the impact of many factors beyond the control of MediWound. The company assumes no obligation to update or supplement any forward looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Participants are directed to cautionary notes set forth in today's press release as well as risk factors set forth in MediBlue's annual report filed with the SEC for factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated in the forward looking statements. Conference call's property of MediWound and any recording or rebroadcast is expressly prohibited without the written consent of MediWound. Speaker 100:02:12Now I'd like to turn the call over to Ofer Gonin, Chief Executive Officer of MediWound. Ofer? Speaker 300:02:19Good morning, everyone, and thank you, Dan, for the introduction. I'm pleased to welcome you to our Q3 2023 earnings conference call. Joining me today are Hany Luxembourg, our Chief Financial Officer and Barry Wolfensson, our Executive Vice President of Strategy and Corporate Development. I want to start by expressing a sincere thank you from the entire MediWound family for the overwhelming support through e mails, calls, messages that I've received from many of you since October 7 terror attack. This war has significantly impacted the lives of many of our employees and their families. Speaker 300:03:04We feel privileged that our products can contribute to helping victims and make a difference. Our team is working around the clock to ensure we meet the needs of our community, customers, patients and partners. This quarter marks a pivotal period for us with significant achievements that set the stage for consistent future revenue growth. NexoBrid was successfully launched in the United States and Japan. In Europe, we expanded both our presence and the target population. Speaker 300:03:43Global demand has risen, fueled in part by world conflict and governmental actions. We have responded with the necessary reallocation of resources to meet this increase and continue with our plans to aggressively expand our manufacturing capabilities. Looking ahead, preparation for the Phase III study of EscharEx are progressing with an updated protocol shaped by both the FDA and EMA guidance. Anticipated enrollment is set to begin in the second half of twenty twenty four. A new collaboration with the industry leader 3 ms Healthcare further validates EscharEx's anticipated impact on the wound care market. Speaker 300:04:33Let's have a more detailed look at NexoBrid. It has been a very busy and productive period. Notably, at the end of the quarter, we announced United States commercial availability through our partner, Vericel. Vericel's launch of NexoBrid is progressing swiftly. Patients started treatment soon after its commercial release. Speaker 300:04:59Vericel is dedicated to securing market access, obtaining PNT committee approvals and training staff at burn centers. Given the burn care community's positive response to NexoBrid, Vericel expects rapid adoption and significant growth of their burn franchise in 2024 and beyond. Further supporting the commercialization efforts in the U. S. And elsewhere, the Journal of Burn Care and Research published results from the DETECT Phase 3 study. Speaker 300:05:35The study demonstrated that the treatment with NexoBrid resulted in early complete eschar removal in more than 90% of treated burn patients and reduced the need for surgical excision compared to gel vehicle and the standard of care. With Vericel's early success into the Aztecs reception and strong published data, we feel quite confident about NexoBrid's future in the United States. Similarly, in Japan, another major market, NexoBrid was launched this quarter through our partner, Keiken Pharmaceutical. The initial feedback from Kaiken is positive, and it is working diligently to secure contracts in key hospital systems. In Europe, 2 recent developments are expected to bolster our sales. Speaker 300:06:32The first is that the CHMP recommended NexoBrid's label extension to include pediatric indication, expanding NexoBrid availability to all age groups. This recommendation was based on a global Phase III study evaluating NexoBrid in hospitalized pediatric patients as well as additional data from ARIA trials. Pediatric patients with severe terminal burns represents approximately 30% of the total burn population. Therefore, this label extension will significantly increase NexoBrid's addressable market. Secondly, our recently announced collaboration with Polymedix, a burn care market leader, will further the adoption of NexoBrid in Europe by expanding our marketing activities in Germany, Austria, Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg. Speaker 300:07:36This collaboration followed NexoBrid's impressive presence at the recent European Burn Association Congress, where NexoBrid was featured in 20 oral and poster presentations. In addition to these 3 key markets, United States, Japan and the EU, there has been a noticeable rise in global demand for NexoBrid, driven in part by geopolitical conflicts. In Israel, the entire non U. S. NexoBrid inventory has been deployed to hospitals and military to successfully treat these affected by the war. Speaker 300:08:16The positive outcomes achieved with NexoBrid in the field have prompt additional interest from various governments, including Ukraine, for stockpiling the product. In the United States, we secured a $6,500,000 R and D budget from the Department of Defense to advance the development of a new temperature stable formulation for NexoBrid. It is planned to be the first line, non surgical solution for field care burn treatment for the United States Army. All of these developments, major market launches, indication expansion, DoD funding, governmental interest, all of these will accelerate the demand for NexoBrid worldwide. It is therefore critical that we expand our operational capabilities to address this need. Speaker 300:09:15Our primary goal is to ensure that our new GMP compliant, state of the art facility is on schedule for completion by mid-twenty 24, reaching full scale manufacturing capabilities in 2025. To this end, we are focused on assembling the right team and allocating the necessary resources for that. We are thrilled to welcome Doctor. Schmulich Hess as our recently appointed Chief Operating Officer and Chief Commercial Officer. With his extensive experience, we are confident that Doctor. Speaker 300:09:53Hess will play a pivotal role in ensuring the success of our upgraded production and help us refine our commercial strategy. His expertise will undoubtedly contribute to the efforts to meet the escalating market demands effectively. Now I'd like to provide an update on our EscharEx program. We have received guidance from both the FDA and EMA on the protocol for the global Phase III study, indicating our pathway towards approval. With the strong data from our Phase II studies and with the added information we made to the protocol, we are entering the Phase III portion of our clinical development program with great confidence. Speaker 300:10:44The Phase III trial is a multicenter, proskepective, randomized, placebo controlled study evaluating the safety and efficacy of EscharEx in patients with venous leg ulcers. The trial will enroll 2 16 patients equally randomized between EscharEx and the placebo gel vehicle. The trial will focus on 2 core primary endpoints: the incidence of complete debridement at the conclusion of the daily visit period and the incidence of wound closure by the end of the weekly follow-up period. An interim assessment is planned after 67% of the patients have completed the trial. We are currently finalizing the logistic aspect of the trial and anticipate submitting an updated protocol to the FDA in the Q1 of 2024 with patient enrollment to follow by the second half of twenty twenty four. Speaker 300:11:49At the same time, we are also advancing plans for exploratory studies, including a pharmacokinetic study and a human factor study. These are designed to support the BLA of EscharEx and to improve our future commercialization and market access strategies. Much like NexoBrid's notable impact in the burn care market, EscharEx is also attracting significant interest in the chronic wound care sector. This is demonstrated by the interest expected by key market leaders to form research collaborations around our study. To tell you more about these collaborations, I will now turn the call over to Barry. Speaker 300:12:36Barry? Speaker 400:12:38Thanks, Ofer. This quarter, we secured an additional research collaboration partner for our Phase III study, 3 ms Healthcare, which is in addition to the previously announced ones, MiMedx and Momlica. Our primary goals in securing these agreements were to ensure that we minimized as much as possible the variability between study arms and to provide best in class products for patients in our study. As a reminder, we focused on 3 key areas of venous leg ulcer management: 1, compression therapy 2, advanced wound dressings that provide optimal moisture management and 3, a cell or tissue based product to drive active closure, which is key to our endpoint of incidence of wound closure. Propression therapy is part of the gold standard for the management of venous leg ulcers and is an essential component in all the validated clinical practice guidelines for this indication. Speaker 400:13:34The superior benefits of 3 Care's CoBAN2 and CoBAN2 Lite were confirmed in a recent real world evidence retrospective study presented at both the Symposium on Advances in Wound Care and the European Wound Management Association Conference this year. These are the 2 largest annual global wound care conferences. Given the prominent position of this product in the market, we are quite pleased 3M Healthcare will be supplying them for the patients in our study as well as providing the investigators and their teams with the training required to use them appropriately. What happens under the compression wrap system is equally as important. Venous leg ulcers are known to have high levels of wound fluid drainage and since systems such as CoVAN II are designed to remain in place for up to 1 week, managing this moisture so that it is all handled by the dressing is key. Speaker 400:14:27For this, Momlico will provide their category leading Meppolex foam dressings as well as their ExuFiber, ExuFiber AG dressings. Mephilex is the top brand in the largest category of advanced wound dressings, which are called foam dressings. ExuFiber will be included for added moisture management and exuFiber AG for the additional management of localized bioburden. Lastly, a key goal of our Phase III study is to demonstrate that EscharEx significantly improves the facilitation of active closure. Due to the sheer amount of clinical data supporting its use, along with its demonstrated ease of use, the cell or tissue based product to be used in our Phase III study will come from MiMedx, who will provide Epifix their placental tissue allograft. Speaker 400:15:12Epifix will be used on study subjects as soon as the wound is completely debrided and has 100% granulation tissue when autografting is not an option. As a whole, these three class leading collaborations underscore just how significant of a trial this is in the field of wound management and to the anticipation of what EscharEx can mean to the market upon its approval. With that, I'll hand it back to you, Ofer. Speaker 300:15:39Thank you, Barry. In summary, we are making substantial strides towards achieving our strategic goals. NexoBrid has successfully launched in the United States and Japan and is expanding its addressable markets and commercial presence in Europe. The construction and the commissioning of our new manufacturing facility that will support this increased demand are on track. Additionally, EscharEx has attracted collaborations with industry leaders, 3 ms, MiMedx and Molokay, and we are well positioned for our pivotal Phase III trial. Speaker 300:16:17Finally, our solid balance sheet with $46,000,000 in cash is a key strategic asset that empowers us to successfully execute on our main goals: increase NexoBrid revenues, develop EscharEx through FDA approval and reach profitability. To discuss our financials in more detail, I will now hand it over to Hani. Hani? Speaker 500:16:46Thank you, Oscar. Let me begin with our revenues. In this quarter, the company reported revenues of $4,800,000 which is a decrease from the $5,800,000 reported in the same quarter of the previous year. This decrease is primarily due to the absence of a nonrecurring income from BARDA. Gross profit for the quarter stood at $900,000 or 19 percent of total revenue compared to the 2,400,000 or 41.9 percent of total revenue in the Q3 of 2022. Speaker 500:17:27The decrease in gross profit is mainly attributed to the absence of nonrecurring income from BARDA. Turning to our operating expenses. The company's R and D expenses amounted to $1,500,000 a decrease from MXN 2,900,000 in the Q3 of 2022, mainly due to the completion of EscharEx Phase II study. SG and A expenses were reported at CHF2.6 million compared to the $3,100,000 in the same quarter of the previous year. The operating loss for the quarter was $3,000,000 which shows an improvement from a $3,500,000 loss in the Q3 of 2022. Speaker 500:18:20The net loss was reported at $2,200,000 or $0.24 per share compared to the net loss of $4,200,000 or $0.88 per share in the same quarter last year. This improvement is mainly attributed to a favorable adjustment from the revaluation of warrants. The non GAAP adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was a loss of $2,600,000 compared to $2,500,000 loss in the Q3 of 2022. Now let's look at the year to date financial highlights. The company's revenue for the 1st 9 months of 2023 totaled $13,300,000 a decrease from $14,900,000 in the 1st 9 months of 2022. Speaker 500:19:18The operating loss for this period was $11,400,000 compared to the operating loss of $10,500,000 recorded in the same period last year. The net loss for the 1st 9 months was $5,000,000 or $0.56 per share, which is a significant improvement from a net loss of 12 $100,000 or $2.67 per share for the 1st 9 months of 2022. The non GAAP adjusted EBITDA showed a loss of $9,000,000 compared to a loss of $7,900,000 reported in the 1st 9 months of 2022. And now a few words about the balance sheet. As of September 30, 2023, the company's cash, restricted cash and investment were at $46,000,000 an increase from $34,100,000 reported on December 31, 2022. Speaker 500:20:25In the Q1 of 2023, the company successfully raised a gross amount of $27,500,000 During the Q3 of 2023, the company used $5,400,000 to fund its activities. With the current financial standing, the company's cash reserves are expected to support its operations through profitability. With that, I will now turn the call back to Ofer. Ofer? Speaker 600:20:58Thank you, Chani. Speaker 300:21:00This quarter is marked by significant progress for MediWound. Our optimism for NexoBrid's global revenue growth is high, driven by its commercial launches in the United States and Japan, growing presence in the European market and rising global governmental interest. Addressing this surging demand is our foremost priority in the coming months. We are committed to maintaining our manufacturing targets and expanding our production capabilities. We anticipate a substantial increase in NexoBrid revenue following the completion of this scale up. Speaker 300:21:41In parallel, our EscharEx Phase III global study is progressing towards the initiation, guided by the FDA and EMA and bolstered by partnerships with 3 top global wound care companies, EscharEx stands at the forefront of the $2,000,000,000 chronic wound debridement market. It holds a promise to enhancing the lives of millions. With that, we will now open the call for your questions. Operator? Operator00:22:13Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. And today's first question comes from RK with H. C. Wainwright. Operator00:22:41Please go ahead. Speaker 200:22:44Thank you. Good afternoon, Ofer and Hani. Hope you folks are doing well and your families are doing well. So to start off with NexoBrid, in terms of Japan, you said you're getting good feedback. And I'm just trying to see if you can expand on that comment a little bit more. Speaker 200:23:11And also in terms of how does the commercialization work in Japan for Speaker 300:23:21a product like this? Speaker 200:23:24So if you can highlight on both of those, that will be helpful. Speaker 300:23:30Hi, RK. I hope you're well as well. Thank you for the question. So as I said, in Japan, Kaiken Pharmaceutical successfully launched NexoBrid commercially. The Japanese market is quite substantial and more than 6,000 patients that annually receiving the treatment of severe burns, and the majority of them undergoing eschar removal as a critical first step. Speaker 300:24:03The initial feedback, as someone who licenses the product, we get periodically input from them. So the initial feedback is very positive. They are working diligently to secure contracts in key hospital systems. In Japan, there are something like 420 relevant hospitals. For instance, in the United States, the number is only 100 and 20 or placebo. Speaker 300:24:30So there are 400 hospitals. They approached already all of them, and they exposed the product and gave training to many dozens of healthcare professionals. In the first after deploying them the first few batches, they increased their order. But as we say and as we said in the last quarter or 2, currently, there is much more demand for NexoBrid than we can actually manufacture and supply. So we will keep our initial commitment according to the contract. Speaker 300:25:10But the Japanese launch is going as better than expected. Speaker 200:25:16Very good. Then with the added indication of pediatrics in the Europe and the new collaboration with Polymedix, How is this going to work for you folks? And do you think that Polymedix collaboration will give a little bit of a win, especially since you have been in Europe for a while? Speaker 300:25:44Right. So again, it's an interesting question. So the recommendation for the label extension to include also pediatric indication is quite substantial in Europe because around 30% of all the burn patients are considered children, and we got 100% of what we asked from EMA. The label that we got is exactly what we aimed for. The collaboration with CMI, of course, the impact in the near term will not be substantial because Europe reflects what we see in other territories. Speaker 300:26:29We have much more demand than we can actually supply. But we are looking now to 2025, 2026. We want to have a very strong presence in Germany, Austria, Belgium, Netherlands and Luxembourg. In 2026, we're supposed to have full manufacturing capabilities. We want our spread in Europe to be as strong as we can. Speaker 300:26:56And PMI is quite an ideal partner. If you go to European Burn Association Congresses, you will see very few strong companies in wound care. Maybe wound, by the way, is one of them, but PMI is very strong there, and we think it will just defy this collaboration. Speaker 200:27:20Very good. And then the last question is on the manufacturing piece. So as you said, you have a larger demand than what you can supply. So and you're saying by early 2025, you should have manufacturing from the new plant. Do you think you have enough material to support commercialization till then, so that you're not losing on any contracts between now and early 2025? Speaker 300:28:03So this is a tough question. We have commitment to support our clients and our partners. And we also currently, our schedule to complete the GMP compliant state of the art facility is by mid-twenty 24, and we hope to reach full scale manufacturing capability in 2025. By the way, in EMA, it can be quicker. So we need to set priorities, and I think we are very clear with that. Speaker 300:28:38United States and Japan are our top priorities because these are considered the most important market. After that, we have Europe, EU 5. And the rest, we they need to wait. And we might lose some partners in very small countries, but it is what it is. Speaker 200:29:00Very good. Thank you very much, Alper, and talk to you soon. Speaker 300:29:03Thank you. Operator00:29:05Thank you. And our next question comes from Francois Brisebois with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:29:11Hi. Thanks for taking the questions. In terms of the EscharEx trial, can you help us understand maybe the timelines? You talked about an interim assessment. Speaker 300:29:24The start Speaker 600:29:25of the trial, the enrollment starts second half of next year, but do you have an idea when that interim assessment could happen? And what can we expect to see there in terms of outcomes? Is there a look on potential efficacy? Is there opportunity to end the trial early because of overwhelmingly good efficacy? Or just any color on timing and interim assessment expectations? Speaker 600:29:49Thank you. Speaker 300:29:53Hi, Frank, and I appreciate your question. Yes, the Phase III protocol, we have been going back and forth with EMA and the FDA to make sure that they are both aligned with the same requirements because we want EscharEx to be approved globally. We managed to approve an interim assessment. This is our plan after 67% of the participants that completed the trial. We managed to reduce the number of patients. Speaker 300:30:30Last time, we said we will need to recruit 244 patients, But now, especially due to the fact that we have an interim analysis, we're able to do a shorter trial. So now we are guiding a shorter trial, not 24 months rather than 18 months. And the interim assessment will be something like after 15 months. And the data will be it won't be it will be an efficacy data, not a safety data, but there isn't a stopping rule. It's an interim assessment if we see that we don't have enough power for succeeding in the endpoints, we might increase the number of patients, but we will not be able to decrease it. Speaker 300:31:17So the plan is for 2 16 patients, and I hope I answered your question. Speaker 600:31:26Yes. Thank you. And obviously, very unfortunate the reasons for why NexoBrid isn't in such high demand. But can you maybe help us quantify the maybe via multiple or how much is the demand superior to the supply? Is it 2x, 3x times? Speaker 600:31:44And your is it will the manufacturing capability and building be enough for the supply or is it kind of a surge in supply? Just any comment there on manufacturing goals? Would it completely resolve the greater demand and supply? And what would that do to your balance sheet? Speaker 300:32:09Thank you for that, Frank. So as I said, our current sales are limited only by our production facility. We have almost 0 inventory. As you can probably see in the financial statements, you see that they're always marginal. We have at least 3 fold demand more than we can produce. Speaker 300:32:31The scale up is planned to do 6x, okay? So currently, it seems okay. But this scale up, if we work in 2 shifts, it's actually 11x. So we don't see a reason why this manufacturing facility will not be enough to Thank you. Operator00:32:55And Speaker 100:32:58Thank you. Speaker 300:33:01And just answering the second part of the question. So if you look at where if the demand today is 3x on the anaerobicis manufacture, We don't see why a reason why in the year 2025 and 2026 when we have full manufacturing capabilities, why we're not able to sell 4 or 5 times because currently we are just limiting our sales force in order to be able to keep as many partners happy. We cannot supply everything. Operator00:33:42Thank you. And our next question comes from Michael Okunovich with Maxim Group. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:33:49Hey, guys. Thank you for taking my questions today. I guess, first, I'd just like to follow-up on the discussion around the manufacturing scale up. And in particular, does this how this plays into your guidance for tasks supporting you through profitability? I'd like to get a sense of what timelines are kind of baked into that assumption. Speaker 700:34:15Is this kind of the expectation here that the manufacturing scale up given the excess demand could push you into profitability relatively quickly after that's fully up and running? Speaker 300:34:31I think hi, Michael. I think Hany will take that question. Speaker 500:34:35Hi, Michael. Appreciate your question. So our cash restricted cash and investment totaled to $46,000,000 as of the end of the quarter. As you know, we have 2 major expenses going forward. The first one is the Phase III program, which will probably cost approximately $30,000,000 And the second is the remaining cost of the facility scale up, which totals to about $6,000,000 dollars And we expect about $1,000,000 to be covered by BARDA. Speaker 500:35:08So assuming we meet the scala timeline according to plan, which means that the construction by mid will be end by mid 2024 and full scale up manufacturing in 2025. So the NexoBrid is expected to generate meaningful revenue in 2025 and going forward. Accordingly, we anticipate that the profitability in 2026, 2027. Speaker 700:35:41All right. Thank you very much. And then I'd also like to ask a little bit deeper about the research partnerships, in particular, now that we have 3 ms joining in. Do research partners get earlier access to the data or get to follow the trial more closely? I'd like to get a sense if there's some benefit here for partnering or even potential acquisition discussions. Speaker 700:36:05And the reason I ask is because EscharEx seems like it could be a really attractive compound for someone, especially like 3 ms, if they're looking to compete with Santel? Speaker 300:36:17Right. So that's a very important question. And Barry, can you please provide more detail on that? Speaker 400:36:25Sure. Thank you. Thanks for the question. As far as the data that they're going to get, they won't have any early look. At the time that we file the BLA, they will get a package of information that focuses on their specific product and how it fared across the couple of arms in the study. Speaker 400:36:49For them, they get a solid amount of data. There's not too many Phase 3 studies that are done in this space. Certainly not too many studies at all with the rigor with which this study is being done. So they'll get a good set of data, in an actual, controlled study and they'll have, the marketing capability to say that in the most important Phase 3 study to come around in wound care for decades that their product was used as standard of care. That's kind of what they get out of it. Speaker 400:37:20As to the question about M and A licensing, any kind of business development activities. You're right. I would add, just as a little bit of flavor, that 3 ms, as you probably know, is splitting off its healthcare division into a listed entity sometime, I believe, in 2024. They just announced the new name of this entity the past week. So it's becoming a reality. Speaker 400:37:51And the intent of that spin off is to really unlock innovation in that division, which does about $8,000,000,000 I think in sales a year. So would they be a potential good acquirer or licensor of EscharEx? Absolutely. Obviously, our stated intention at this point is to not only bring EscharEx across the finish line, but to commercialize it as well as we believe that that is what will maximize value for our shareholders. But of course, when we get there, we'll always be open to see what prevailing wins are and what the market bears. Speaker 700:38:35All right. Thank you very much. And then just one more and I'll hop back in the queue. I'd like to see if you could expand a little bit on the exploratory studies for EscharEx. Would you be more geared towards generating additional marketing data in BLUs or potentially towards layering in additional indications? Speaker 300:38:58So when we are speaking about exploratory studies at this stage, we're speaking about guidance that we got from the FDA. FDA is interested in us showing that the PK profile of the drug, this study is relatively a small one, 20 patients. And also, there is since EscharEx is a drug which is going to be used at home, FDA also wants us to do something which is called human factor study, just making sure that they are able to read the patients are able to read the information of use. Again, a very small study, even without patients, only healthy volunteers. We might, and we are thinking about it, do additional 1 or 2 studies that will serve the market access, making sure that we are able to charge as maximum as we can after Esterix is approved. Speaker 300:40:05But when we know exactly what we do, we will share it with you and the public. Speaker 700:40:12All right. Thank you very much and congrats on all the progress you made this past quarter. Speaker 300:40:17Thank you. Operator00:40:33And ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Ofer Gonin for any closing remarks. Speaker 300:40:42Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We look forward to updating you again on our next call. Operator00:40:51Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. We thank you all for attendingRead moreRemove AdsPowered by