PVH Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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November 30, 2023

There are 8 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to today's PVH Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, you will have an opportunity to ask questions during the question and answer session. Please note this call will be recorded and I'll be standing by if you should need any assistance. It is now my pleasure to turn today's program over to Cheryl Freeman, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations.

Operator

Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the PVH Corp. 3rd Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Leading the call today will be Stephane Larson, Chief Executive Officer and Zach Coughlin, Chief Financial Officer. This webcast and conference call is being recorded on behalf of PPH and consists of copyrighted material.

Speaker 1

It may not be recorded, rebroadcast or otherwise transmitted without PVH's written permission. Your participation constitutes your consent Having anything you say appear on any transcript or replay of this call. The information to be discussed includes forward looking statements that reflect PVH's view as of November 30, 2023 of future events and financial performance. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties indicated in the company's SEC filings and the Safe Harbor statement included in the press Release that is the subject of this call. These include PVH's right to change its strategies, objectives, expectations and intentions and the company's ability to realize anticipated benefits and savings from divestitures, restructurings and similar plans such as the planned cost efficiency announced in August 2022, the 2021 sale of assets of and exit from its Heritage Brands menswear and retail businesses and the November 2023 sale of the Heritage Brands Women's Intimate Apparel Business to focus on its Calvin Klein and Tommy Hilfiger businesses.

Speaker 1

PVH does not undertake any obligation to update publicly any forward looking statement, including without limitation, any estimates regarding revenue or earnings. Generally, the financial information and projections to be discussed will be on a non GAAP basis as defined under SEC rules. Reconciliations to GAAP amounts are included in PVH's Q3 2023 earnings release, which can be found on www.pvh.com and in the company's current report on Form 8 ks furnished to the SEC in connection with the release. At this time, I'm pleased to turn the conference over to Stefan Larson.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Cheryl, and good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our call today. For the Q3, we drove strong performance, led by the strength of our 2 globally iconic brands Calvin Klein and Tommy Hilfiger and our disciplined execution of our brand building growth plan, The PVH Plus plan. Despite an increasingly choppy macro backdrop, particularly in Europe, we grew overall revenue in line with guidance, up 4% on a reported basis and up 1% in constant currency, while expanding our gross margins and we beat our guidance for the bottom We drove high single digit growth in our direct to consumer business with growth across both brands in all regions. This included double digit growth in our own and operated e commerce and mid single digit growth in our stores. Partially offsetting the strength in B2C trends, we experienced incrementally more challenging trends in wholesale brought by the tougher macro environment.

Speaker 2

As a company, we are driving a much more profitable business. On a non GAAP basis, in Q3, we grew EBIT by 13% versus last year with strong margin expansion. And in Q4, we project to grow EBIT by over 30% versus last year with an approximate 12% EBIT margin. Looking ahead, we are reaffirming our EBIT margin and we are increasing our EPS guidance by $0.10 for the full year on a non GAAP basis. By focusing on what's within our control for the full year 2023, we remain well positioned to drive meaningful margin expansion and double digit EPS growth.

Speaker 2

We just came out of the important Thanksgiving and Black Friday week, one of the key consumer moments during the holiday period. And I'm pleased to share that in both North America and in Europe, we beat our growth plans versus last year and delivered a strong start of the holiday season. We continue to make strong progress and gain increasing traction across all five growth drivers of the PVH plus plan. And we relentlessly lean into the execution on winning with product, winning with consumer engagement, winning in the marketplace, as well as developing a data and demand driven supply chain and investing in growth while driving efficiencies. And as I mentioned on our last call, each of our growth drivers plays an important role.

Speaker 2

And it's when we play them all together that something really powerful And let me share some concrete examples on how we made that come to life this quarter. 1st, Our strong D2C growth was fueled by increased product and supply chain strength that drove higher gross margins. The sales growth was supported by a nearly 20% increase in marketing investments with strong cut through campaigns and global talent amplification. From a regional perspective, we drove constant currency revenue growth for our combined Calvin and Tommy businesses for all regions. Our outperformance in the quarter was driven by North America, which is a very important proof point for how we are already positioning both Calvin and Tommy for long term Sustainable growth in the region through strong execution of the PVH plus plan.

Speaker 2

For the 2nd consecutive quarter, Our EBIT margin for our Calvin and Tommy businesses in North America together took a sizable step forward and expanded to 13.1% in the quarter with significant gross margin expansion in both our direct to consumer and wholesale business. Inventory continues to be in great shape, both in composition and in levels, down 19% at the end of the quarter, as we made significant progress increasing overall inventory productivity as part of our actions to lower inventory in relation to sales by 25% by the end of fiscal 2024, all while improving availability. For the first half of twenty twenty four, We also see decreases in our AUC with more than 5%. This is partly driven by favorable macro, but even more importantly, it's driven by an improved approach to our costing process, the first results of a better raw material strategy and early returns on a much sharper assortment productivity. We continue to invest in growth while driving cost efficiencies and are improving our cash flow, increasing share buybacks showing our confidence in our ability to execute over the long term.

Speaker 2

During the quarter, we further sharpened our focus on our 2 core brands with the divestiture of heritage brands. The proceeds from the transaction will be used to repurchase stock, and we now expect to repurchase approximately $550,000,000 of our stock, up from €400,000,000 previously. Finally, it will be the strength of our brands, our consistency in direction and our relentless execution of the PVH Plus plan that will set us apart over time. And this will in turn be driven by the quality of the management team, which we have strengthened significantly over the past Which we have strengthened significantly over the past year. I'm happy to share the addition of Leah Ritz Scholman, who will join us as Global Brand President of Tommy Hilfiger in spring 2024.

Speaker 2

Leah is a uniquely strong and experienced brand and business builder with an outstanding track records building brands globally. Under Leah's leadership, The Tommy Hilfiger brand will operate in the same way our global Calvin Klein business operates today under Eva Serrano, creating a consistent and unified global brand structure. Each of our 2 brands now has one leader who sets the vision, Leads product creation, brand marketing and consumer experience globally, working closely with our regional teams who inform those strategies and lead the brand to win in the marketplace. Now let me share a bit more of what drove our performance in the quarter, both from a global brand and regional perspective. Starting with Calvin Klein.

Speaker 2

Throughout the Q3, Calvin continued to focus on driving very strong consumer engagement globally through our most important hero products and driving a strong category offense with growth across our refined performance and underwear categories. It was another quarter where we delivered cut through campaigns globally and continue to amplify our talent partnerships. When we last spoke, the brand had just launched its fall campaign, which included our long term ambassadors Jenny Kim, John Cook, Kendall Jenner, wearing our most essential underwear, denim and refined women's wear styles. We cut through with nearly 4,000,000 average video views on TikTok and over 20% engagement rate on Instagram. As part of the fall campaign, The brand also launched a surprise performance with John Cook in Times Square, New York.

Speaker 2

The concert was announced only 30 minutes beforehand and tens of thousands of fans gathered within minutes. Jungkook and his whole crew were dressed in iconic Calvin Klein and their looks were immediately shoppable on our site. It was a perfect example on how we amplify global talent to win with consumer engagement. For holiday, the brand campaign features Hailey Bieber in iconic Calvin Klein styles, where our hero products are prominently featured on social through shoppable content to drive commercial impact. Finally, I'm excited about the progress we're making to align Calvin Klein to one global brand vision.

Speaker 2

Since joining, Eva has been focused on tapping into Calvin's core DNA to make the brand more current than ever. As part of this work, We're expanding the capabilities of our global product teams here in New York to drive a more unified product vision across key categories to win serving all markets. Let me now share a few examples from Tommy Hilfiger. This fall, the Tommy brand reinforced its core DNA, going back to classic American cool and iconic Tommy Lifestyle through our family focused seasonal campaign. As part of this campaign with a special focus on Asia, We celebrated the K Pop band Stray Kids VMA win with a warm welcome to the Tommy family, breaking our record of social media engagement In the first 30 minutes, when we connect the brand in authentic ways with global talent like this, our fans respond and we expand our reach and influence.

Speaker 2

We combined another culturally relevant moment with aspirational talent when Tommy campaign star CISA hosted a New York Fashion Week branch with over 100 VIP guests and influencers generating over 800,000,000 impressions on social. And just 2 weeks ago at the Las Vegas Formula 1 Grand Prix, we expanded our partnership with Formula 1 by welcoming one of Hollywood's biggest rising stars, Damson Idris, to the Tommy Hilfiger Brand family as our newest men's ambassador. Together with Damson, Tommy hosted a number of events with key influencers featuring day and night Tommy looks. For the holiday, our Tommy campaign celebrates the happiness of returning home. Families and friends are captured in Tommy's classic American prep with Twist as they unite to celebrate the season, all amplified by very strong talent.

Speaker 2

Now let me turn to our regional performance. I'd like to start with North America, which is a big proof point for us this quarter. As I mentioned earlier, we made significant progress building the foundation for sustainable, increasingly profitable brand accretive growth for the region. And I'm very encouraged by the major initial traction we're gaining. Our Tommy and Calvin businesses together delivered high quality low single digit revenue growth and most importantly, a 13.1% EBIT margin in the quarter, including higher gross margins and higher AURs.

Speaker 2

We drove outperformance for both our direct to consumer businesses and our wholesale business, We showed meaningful sequential improvement and this is with still a big part of the pre pandemic tourism not yet back. Let me share a few highlights. For Tommy, our D2C growth continues to be driven by our best premium style essentials, which increased by over 50% compared to last year, supported by elevated in store execution. For Calvin, leading with our category offense, we delivered our 3rd consecutive quarter of double digit growth in the refined category. The expanded Essentials focus was also once again a standout, supported by an integrated marketing campaign and elevated execution on ck.com.

Speaker 2

Across both brands, we drove another quarter of double digit growth in our own and Operating e commerce businesses. This was driven by the elevation of our brands through stronger storytelling, improved site merchandising and new conversion tools. Within wholesale, while our partners remain conservative, we continue to see strong gains resulting from our efforts to build a much stronger business with our key partners such as Macy's. Let me share some examples. We drove double digit year over year growth in Tommy Test Doors, where we have invested together with Macy's in stronger field team coverage.

Speaker 2

And we are driving double digit AUR growth at Macy's through the ongoing success with our improved product assortment, including our Polo offense and seasonal categories. For Calvin, our men's essentials business increased over 50% at Macy's with investments in the right premium essential based assortment. We also saw strength in refined categories, which grew 25%. I'm very proud of our North America team's execution this past quarter. And we now have the team, The plan and the disciplined execution in place to unlock our full potential in the region.

Speaker 2

Turning to Europe. We continue to drive growth this quarter, building on our historically large business, market leading awareness and overall brand strength in the region. In the 3rd quarter, we delivered high single digit revenue growth On a reported basis and low single digit growth in euros against a record breaking quarter last year. Our revenue exceeded €1,000,000,000 led by mid single digit growth in D2C for each brand. In wholesale, we confirmed our pre spring spring 'twenty four order book at low single digit growth on a constant currency basis, with pre spring already shipping in Q3, leading to timing differences versus Q4 last year.

Speaker 2

Like others, we have seen a more challenging macroeconomic backdrop in Europe, and that is impacting consumer confidence and the wholesale channel. Additionally, this quarter, just as we were about to kick off the fall season, we saw the longest streak of record setting warm weather in Europe since the 1800s. Both factors have driven an increasingly promotional environment in the marketplace. And for us, the heatwave in September was a double whammy, given our historical strength in outerwear, sweaters and heavyweight knits. Weather aside, going forward, we anticipate this challenging macro backdrop and an increasingly cautious wholesale channel to continue into 2024.

Speaker 2

In this environment, we are not sitting still. We are leveraging our market leading strength and driving much increased profitability and proactively adjusting how we operate. We're taking our PVH plus plan execution to the next level, and we are doing this in 2 main ways. First, against the current macro backdrop in the wholesale channel, we feel that it's critically important to avoid having too much inventory in the market, even if that means less selling in to secure strong sell out with high margin and less discounting. Our main priority independently of macro for both brands will always be to strengthen our position for long term Sustainable brand accretive growth.

Speaker 2

2nd, we will lean into the next level of PVH plus execution through DTC and with our key wholesale partners, leveraging our key strengths in product, consumer engagement and marketplace management. I'll highlight a few examples of how you will see this in action. Across both brands, we have product innovation coming for 2024 In Technical Fabrics, Dress Casual, more choice of our best premium essentials, more transitional products to become less weather dependent and all while we continue to cut the unproductive assortment tail. In consumer engagement, We just shot very strong cut through campaigns for both Tommy and Calvin that we'll launch for spring 2024. And in the marketplace, you will see us continue to invest in our stores, shop in shops and digital experiences to Keep elevating the consumer experience.

Speaker 2

You can already see the positive effects of our next level PVH plus execution in our D2C channels, where we have more control between product and consumer and can execute with impact more quickly. And in wholesale, thanks to the much improved inventory management this season, despite the tougher conditions, you will already in Q4 I have personally spent more time in Europe over the past few months. I visited over 50 stores in 6 countries to work with our teams as we adjust to market conditions and put the next level of PVH plus execution into action. Standing out the most from this work is the foundational strength we have in both brands with consumers across the region and the opportunity to continue leveraging this as we navigate the current environment. Moving on to Asia Pacific.

Speaker 2

We continue to drive strong performance, which included double digit constant currency growth in our direct to consumer businesses across the region, including China. We continue to win in key consumer moments such as Chinese Valentine's Day and Tmall Membership Day fueled by strong hero products and successful capsule launches. And both Calvin and Tommy continue to move up the rankings on Tmall. Most recently, we delivered double digit growth in GMV During China's important eleveneleven activation, leading with the product category offense, we focused on growing live stream sales and leveraging talent in innovative and engaging ways. We also captured market share on Douyin as Consumers increased spending on these newer formats of shopping.

Speaker 2

We leveraged our global mega talent to expand brand awareness in the region. In October, Calvin celebrated fall 2023 collection in Tokyo, featuring brand ambassador, Jungkook, The venture of strong brand awareness across the region and globally. And Tommy's Fall campaign Reached a total fan base of over 130,000,000 with regionally relevant ambassadors including K Pop Group Stray Kids. In addition to new ambassadors, Lee Chin and Greg Hsu, who drove over 430,000,000 impressions in China alone during the campaign period. Overall, we're doing a great job executing the PVH plus plan in the region, and we are very optimistic of the long term growth opportunity for both of our brands.

Speaker 2

In closing, I feel very good about the strong performance we delivered in the quarter and how we keep gaining traction through our brand building PVH Plus Before I turn the call over to Sak, I would like to thank all of our associates around the world for their hard work and important contributions this year. And I wish everyone a happy and healthy holiday season.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Stefan, and good morning. My comments are based on non GAAP results and are reconciled in our press release. As Stephane discussed, we are pleased with our results for the Q3, driven by our iconic brands and disciplined execution of the PBH Plus plan. We continue to build on our track record of performance, delivering our top line guidance while exceeding bottom line guidance as we compete to win in this highly dynamic We delivered revenue growth of 4% on a reported basis and 1% on a constant currency basis in line with our guidance with significant strength in DTC and in spite of an increasingly challenging macroeconomic environment, especially in Europe. On the bottom line, we once again exceeded our earnings guidance with earnings per share of $2.90 driven by strong expense management.

Speaker 3

We delivered operating margin of 10.5 percent for the quarter, up 90 basis points versus last year, delivering on our commitment of sequential second half improvement. Also importantly, our inventory at quarter end is down 19% compared to last year, as we continue to proactively manage our inventory levels. As I mentioned last quarter, we expect to end the year with inventory significantly lower than last year with improvement to continue through 2024 as we make progress on our previously announced goal of a 25% reduction in inventory as a percentage of sales. We also completed the sale of our heritage brands intimate apparel business earlier this week for $160,000,000 in cash, which was yet another important step as we accelerate our focus on our core global brands, Calvin Klein and Tommy Hilfiger. We plan to utilize approximately $150,000,000 of net proceeds from the sale for share repurchases in 2023.

Speaker 3

This increases our planned share buybacks for the year to approximately $550,000,000 compared to up to $400,000,000 previously. We expect the sale to be slightly accretive to our operating margin in 2024. As we head into the 4th quarter, We see continued strength in our DTC business and also expect pressure in the wholesale business to continue. This is especially true in Europe as the macro environment continues to be challenging, exacerbated by record high temperatures in September as Stephan discussed, causing retailers to take a cautious approach. This as well as the impact from the sale of our heritage brands intimate apparel business is reflected in our revised revenue outlook of 1% growth for the year on both a reported and constant currency basis.

Speaker 3

Our prior guidance was an increase of 3% to 4% as reported and 2% to 3% on on a constant currency basis. On the bottom line, we are reaffirming our approximately 10% operating margin outlook and raising our non GAAP EPS outlook for the year to a record high $10.45 compared to $10.35 previously, despite our lower revenue outlook as we further strengthen our focus on driving profitable sales and disciplined cost management. I will now discuss Q3 results in more detail and then move on to our outlook. Revenue was up 4% for the quarter, which reflected a 3% positive impact from exchange. 3rd quarter revenue for our international businesses was up 1% on a constant currency basis.

Speaker 3

Revenue in our European business was up 1% in euros despite the increasingly challenging macroeconomic environment with mid single digit growth in the DTC business, partially offset by pressures in wholesale and an unseasonably warm start to the fall season. Revenues for Asia Pacific were up 1% on a constant currency basis and down 2% on a reported basis. Strong demand across the region drove low double digit constant currency growth in the DTC business, which was largely offset by timing of wholesale shipments compared to last year. In North America, revenue for our Tommy Hilfiger and Calvin Klein brand businesses combined Grew 2% as we delivered another quarter of growth in both our retail stores and owned and operated e commerce business with total DTC up low single digits. Our owned and operated e commerce sales were up double digits for both brands again this quarter as the investments we have made in the platform and overall site experience continue to resonate with consumers.

Speaker 3

Wholesale sales for Tommy Hilfiger and Calvin Klein brand businesses combined in North America were also up low single digits. Although retailers continue to take a cautious approach, Retail sales trends improved sequentially compared to the Q2, particularly at Macy's, as we focus on driving sell through and healthy inventory across Importantly, our quality of sales is improving significantly in North America as we grow that business. Gross margins were up over 500 basis points with increases across both brands and all channels. Looking at our overall Q3 revenue from a channel perspective, we continue to drive strong performance across all regions in our direct to consumer business. Our total DTC revenue was up 6% on a constant currency basis and up 8% on a reported basis in the quarter and up approximately 150 basis points as a percentage of our total revenue compared to last year.

Speaker 3

We delivered another quarter of strong growth in both our stores and our owned and operated e commerce business with constant currency revenues up 4% 12% respectively compared to last year. Total wholesale revenue was down 3% on a constant currency basis for the reasons I previously outlined. On a reported basis, wholesale revenue was up 1%. Our global brands delivered another solid quarter with Calvin Klein revenues up 6% and Tommy Hilfiger revenues up 4% as reported. On a constant currency basis, revenue for Calvin Klein was up 3% and Tommy Hilfiger was flat as macroeconomic challenges impacting Europe weigh more heavily on the Tommy business.

Speaker 3

Importantly, our DTC business was up in both brands and in all regions. In the Q3, we delivered gross margin of 56.7 percent, an increase of 80 basis points compared to last year despite a 100 basis point negative impact to product cost due to exchange. Gross margin reflects a significant favorable shift in mix with our higher gross margin DTC and international businesses making up a larger portion of total revenue and a favorable impact from lower ocean freight rates compared to last year. SG and A expense as a percentage of revenue for the Q3 was better than planned at 46.2% and flat versus the prior year. We continue to take a disciplined approach to managing expenses, while making targeted investments to drive the PVH Plus plan, including a nearly 20% increase in marketing compared to last year to fund cut through brand campaigns.

Speaker 3

These investments and the impact of the shift in mix to our DTC and international businesses We're offset by an approximately 150 basis point improvement in expenses versus last year due to savings realized from the actions we have taken to reduce people costs and prudent management of expenses. In total, EBIT for the quarter was $249,000,000 exceeding our expectations. Operating margin was 10.5% and expanded 90 basis points compared to last year despite the 100 basis point negative impact of exchange And importantly, our operating margin for the quarter reflects a significant improvement in our North America business to 13.1% for Tommy Hilfiger and Calvin Klein combined. Earnings per share increased 12% to $2.90 compared to $2.60 in last year's Q3 and exceeded our guidance by $0.20 driven by the improvement in EBIT. Our tax rate for the quarter was approximately 22%.

Speaker 3

And now moving on to our outlook. Starting with the Q4, we are projecting 4th quarter revenue to decline 3% to 4% compared to last year on both a reported and constant With projected strong high single digit growth in our direct to consumer businesses, more than offset by a decline in wholesale revenue, including the revenue reduction from the sale of the Heritage Brands intimate apparel business. Excluding the sale, The decline in wholesale revenue is mostly in Europe, where the wholesale revenues are projected to be down approximately 15% versus last year. Approximately 2 thirds of that decrease is due to one time shipment timing differences compared to last year when supply chains were still normalizing and about 1 third is due to a decrease in sales to lower margin accounts as we remain focused on quality of sales. Looking forward, as Stephan mentioned, we do expect the tough macros to continue into 2024.

Speaker 3

As a result and combined with our continued focus on quality of sales, we now expect lower selling for wholesale next year with a higher quality sell through. The benefit to the Q4 from the 53rd week in 2023 to our overall revenue is mostly offset by the revenue reduction from the sale of the Heritage Brands intimate apparel business. While 4th quarter revenue is Projected to be lower than last year. Importantly, profitability is expected to be significantly higher. EBIT is expected to increase over 30% compared to last year and operating margin is expected to expand to approximately 12%, up nearly 3.50 basis points compared to last year.

Speaker 3

And importantly, Europe profit is planned up significantly as well with regional operating margin up over 500 basis points versus last year and close to all time highs. The overall increase in operating margin is almost entirely due to an approximately 400 basis point improvement in gross margin. The improvement is comprised of an approximately 150 basis point benefit due to a favorable shift in channel and regional mix, Approximately 125 basis point improvement in freight expense and approximately 125 basis point improvement due to the raw material costs for spring 2024 product being significantly lower. We expect all of these impacts to carry forward beyond the end of 2023. We also expect a modest increase in SG and A expense as a percentage of revenue in the Q4 compared to last year, with the higher expenses of DTC mostly offset by the significant efficiencies we're driving in spending.

Speaker 3

Our Q4 earnings per share is projected to be approximately $3.45 up approximately 45% compared to 2.38 in the prior year, driven almost entirely by higher EBIT due to the significant profitability improvement. Our tax rate for the Q4 is estimated at approximately 22% and interest expense is projected to be approximately 25,000,000 And now bringing that all together for the full year 2023. As I mentioned, we are updating our full year revenue outlook and now project revenue Increase by approximately 1% on both a reported and constant currency basis. We are reaffirming our operating margin guidance for the year 10% and raising our non GAAP EPS guidance by $0.10 to approximately $10.45 up 16% compared to 2022 and a record high for PVH. Regionally, our full year revenue outlook for North America Tommy Hilfiger and Calvin Klein combined is unchanged, but our overall outlook for the region is now planned down mid single digits compared to down low single digits previously due entirely to the impact from the sale of the Heritage Brands intimate apparel business.

Speaker 3

Our outlook for Asia Pacific on a constant currency basis This is also unchanged planned up mid teens, while on a reported basis, our revenue outlook for Asia Pacific has been negatively impacted by exchange, with growth on a reported basis now planned up high single digits compared to up low teens previously. In Europe, we are now planning full year revenue approximately flat in euros compared to last year. This compares to our prior guidance of up low single digits in euros. Our DTC business in Europe continued to be planned up mid single digits, but is mostly offset by a decrease in wholesale versus last year given the macroeconomic challenges I mentioned earlier. On a reported basis, Europe was planned up low single digits compared to up mid single digits previously.

Speaker 3

We continue to expect our full year gross margin rate to increase over 100 basis points compared to 2022, despite approximately 100 basis points of higher cost due to exchange. As we've indicated previously, the improvement in our gross margin reflects an approximately 100 basis point benefit from a favorable shift in mix and approximately 100 basis points of improvement due to lower freight costs. We also continue to expect that SG and A expense as a percentage of revenue for the full year will increase approximately 70 basis compared to 2022 with our investments in DTC and mix of international business driving higher expenses. Additionally, as I've discussed in prior quarters, we continue to invest in key areas that drive growth, including increased marketing, with our full year target continuing to be approximately 6% of revenue. These impacts are partially offset by cost efficiencies, primarily due to the people cost actions we have taken.

Speaker 3

As a reminder, in the Q3, we completed our targeted 10% people cost reduction with annual savings ahead of our targeted $100,000,000 of savings. Our full year operating margin projection It continues to be approximately 10% and continues to reflect high single digit EBIT growth. Interest expense is projected to be approximately $93,000,000 versus approximately $100,000,000 previously and we continue to expect our tax rate will be approximately 22%. Before we open up for questions, I want to reiterate that we are pleased with our Q3 results. We continue to work relentlessly to drive results.

Speaker 3

And as Stephan talked about earlier, we are laser focused on delivering our commitments by executing the 5 key growth drivers of the PBH Plus plan, bringing together the consumer facing value drivers of product, consumer engagement and marketplace with our underlying operating engines

Operator

Our first question comes from Bob Drbul with Guggenheim. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 3

Hey, guys. Good morning. Great progress in North America this quarter, especially around the profitability. Can you just walk us through how we should think about the trajectory of North America going forward? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Bob. Yes, North America was really the standout this quarter. And it's really the results coming through from The PVH plus focus we put forward over a year ago and the team coming into place and Really building the brands and driving the business to win more with the domestic consumer. So you see the strength in products. So The category of us and the hero products is working.

Speaker 2

And you see it in gross margin rate going up, pricing power going up. Tommy, as an example, the best essentials, the premium essentials is up 50% versus last year. Calvin, full essentials, much more, much better essentials in the line, much better sell through, much higher AUR. So you see product strength continue to cut through and really resonate well with the consumer. And you will continue to Consumer engagement, when it comes to both Calvin and Tommy, The cut through campaigns with the relevant talent amplification is really working.

Speaker 2

So you see the improved product amplified by strong talent and the strong cut through campaigns, whether it's Jungkook, Hailey Bieber, Kendall Jenner, Lewis Hamilton, George Russell, Ceesa, Damson Idris, we're starting to consistently execute on the PVH plus growth driver in terms of strength in product, strength in And then it's the marketplace execution. So really well done by the team in D2C, both stores and e commerce much stronger executed. You will see the consumer experience elevated. And then as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, Our focus on getting closer to our best wholesale partners is really yielding strong results. So Macy's is a great example where we are working very closely in to start with test stores where We execute the stronger products, the better essentials, the better newness, the better presentation.

Speaker 2

We Co fund more staffing and we see the results is very, very strong and very encouraging. So Looking at the results in North America and then how it trickles down to 13.1% operating margin, it just reinforces what We knew when we set out the PVH plus plan is that when we lean into the iconic strength of these 2 beloved brands, Cabot and Tommy, and we execute in what Zach was just mentioning systematic and repeatable way, then it really pays off. So you will see this Continuously growth in North America, both in D2C and in wholesale.

Speaker 3

Yes. And I think hi, Bob. It's Great question. We're really proud of North America. North America EBIT margin at 13%, that's up 800 basis points versus last year.

Speaker 3

What's exciting is it's really all elements of the business. Revenue was up with significant improvement in DTC. Gross margin was a big driver, up 600 basis points with better inventory, improved assortments and the beginnings of some of those macros turning to tailwinds and SG and A percent also down as the work on headcount efficiency is taking shape, so a great quarter. Looking forward, We're going through the normal quarter to quarter profit fluctuations, but we do expect full year profitability this year North America to land into the high single digit operating margin range with a much better second half than first half. And so we think this shows a clear path to the low teens for a full year that we committed by 2025 in the PVH plus plan.

Speaker 2

And this just to build on what Zach was saying here, this is on top of quite a tough macro in North America as well. So We see that we're able to tap into the strength of the brands and the consumer love for the brands by the better product engagement and marketplace execution despite the tough macro. So very encouraged by that, most recently by the strength in the start of the holiday. So Black Friday, which has now become Black Friday week, Thanksgiving week weeks, We delivered stronger start than planned for both Kevin and Tommy in North America.

Speaker 3

Great. Thank you very much. Happy holidays.

Operator

You too, Paul. Thank you. Our next question will come from Michael Binetti with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Hey, guys. Nice to talk to you. Congrats on a nice quarter and really tough macro. Stephane, I want to ask you a little bit more specifically about some of the Initiatives, David Salzman is putting in on the ground, as he's working on supply chain and inventory, maybe within the context of the 25% reduction in the Inventory to sales ratio that you talked about that's going to keep going for the next 5 quarters, I think. What are some of the examples of work that he's doing That's really starting to land already.

Speaker 4

And then Zach, the 12% operating margin in 4th quarter, that's very, very different. I think the margins in the 4th quarter have been high single digits in So you're way above that. It seems like a new level. How should we think about margins after 2023 through the lens of what looks like a step change in the business in 4th quarter? And maybe you could frame the 15% margin target you spoke about for 2025 at the Analyst Day.

Speaker 4

I know you joined the company maybe

Speaker 2

All right. Thanks, Mikael. Let's start with the first question on the progress on the demand driven supply chain. And seeing what David has been able to do with his team in a very short period of time, It's really encouraging. So what's happening?

Speaker 2

So you know that last quarter we set out the long term target By end of 2024 to drive down inventory in relation to sales with 25%, while improving availability. That's a key part. And what we see already now is inventory in great shape, probably the best shape we have ever had it, minus 18% versus last year With improved availability. So if we start on how that is possible, much better, much more focused Planning upfront, the assortment planning. So I keep speaking about the demand driven supply chain based on my experience Always starts with supply chain coming in upfront with the product teams, better assortment planning upfront.

Speaker 2

And there we are just starting to leverage that. But that is part of why we can run minus 18% in inventory with better availability. What you also see is that AUC is coming down. So if we look at the first half of twenty twenty four, AUC will come down with more than 5%. And this is not just sitting there writing the macros.

Speaker 2

The macros are favorable. On top of that, we're driving significant improvement with improved raw material management. So we get better fabric, more competitive fabric, higher quality for the consumer at the lower Better costing process, better discipline in the costing process, more data driven. We have a better and more sharp Assortment productivity. So we given that we build assortment now with a very strong intent of starting with the best must have essentials.

Speaker 2

We should always having Calvin and Tommy true to their DNAs, Each of their DNA is the best must have essentials in the market. That's what we are working. So we build assortment from that. Then we make sure we have the appropriate newness and then we can continue to cut the unproductive assortment tail. So what you see is really a multitude of efforts that are starting to gain traction, But it's been faster than what we expected and you will see us just continue to deliver sequential improvements.

Speaker 3

Yes. And Michael, on the 4Q operating margin, we're expecting around 12% operating margin for the quarter compared to 8.6 Last year, like you said, sort of high single digits, that's up. Let's just say, 3 50 basis points. Just to give some composition of that, 125 basis points of that is really the full realization of the freight improvements both rates and because of great availability, Lower reliance on airfreight. So that's sort of booked.

Speaker 3

125 basis points is tied to improvements in product costs. And I think as Stephane said, 1, yes, macros are moving from negative to positive as raw materials are coming down. But also David said, and the team are consistently now beating macros and that will be trends that carry forward into 2024 as well. And the last major driver of that It's really the full impact about 125 basis points of the headcount reductions we've taken on SG and A. So as we look forward into 2024.

Speaker 3

Obviously, we're not providing guidance there, but I think you can look at the composition of that gross margin improvement. Those are all factors that are now in place either structurally or from an external marketplace perspective. And so we do expect to see those to carry forward in fully into 2024. And to your question on the targets, As I stood on the stage shorter to shorter step on the leadership team, those are my commitments as well as anyone else. And I think that we've talked about the 15% being that bar that we're going For ourselves, regardless of what's happening in the macro environment, I think this 12% for the 3rd or for the 4th quarter There's a clear view of that because as Stefano talked about, there's some choppy macros now and still driving to that.

Speaker 3

And we expect to continue to drive that through to 2024 as well as that next step towards the 2025 targets.

Speaker 2

And coming back, Michael, one more thing when it comes to The inventory, better inventory managed, demand driven supply chain. What I see happening That I want to share as well is that having Eva Serrano come in and build the strength in the global product engine in carbon And now Leah, Rich Scholman coming in for Tommy, both highly experienced brand builders and Very strong in product. You have the David Sandmann and his teams work upfront with them on leveraging that strength in Product, so it's the connection between the increased strength we are driving in our 2 global brands With the supply chain expertise that David brings in, plus the regional execution. So We are putting supply chain is at the core working with the global brands and the regions. And that's when you see Again, it feels like Eva has been here for a long time, but she has only been here since The first half of this year and you can see the spring assortment 2024 Slightly improved by slightly affected by you will see improvements coming in by EVA, fall much more improvements And then it just keeps going from there.

Speaker 2

So I'm very pleased by seeing how the team is coming together and breaking this old school Sequential handover where you're working and breaking it down and starting upfront, working together cross functionally. And that's Whether it's the early days of building H and M or the Old Navy turnaround or the repositioning of RAV, that's always when I've seen that happening, that's where the value Over time, we'll increase.

Speaker 3

Thanks, guys. I know

Speaker 4

it's been a lot of work to get to this point. So congrats.

Speaker 2

Thank you. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question will come from Matthew Boss with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Great, thanks. So 2 part question. Stephane, could you just elaborate on underlying demand trends for Tommy and Calvin in Europe? Maybe if we parse through some of this near term noise, which sounds like it was weather related. And then for Zach, just maybe on Could you just help lay out given all of the self help drivers and the uncertain backdrop from a revenue perspective, Could you see operating margin expansion next year in a scenario of maybe flat revenues or just what would that picture look like?

Speaker 2

Yes. Thanks, Matt. Let me start. So if we look at Europe and the underlying demand trends for Calvin and Tom is still being Strong. Look at Q3 so when we look at Q3, we continue to grow on a record quarter in Europe last year, Low single digit growth on a record quarter last year.

Speaker 2

And that growth was on a very strong base, so 25% up versus pre pandemic. And then you see another connection to the demand growth in Europe is the strong B2C growth despite the tough macro. And then what happened in the macro was in September, we had the warmest start of the fall since the 2019 No, 1800s, 18.80 or something like that. So of course, impacting September, We came back and the market came back in October from a demand trend perspective, but driving given the importance of September, an increasingly promotional environment in the market. And we see over the Q3, we see an increasingly cautious Macro backdrop in Europe and with the biggest impact on the wholesale channel.

Speaker 2

So what we are doing there, we're not sitting still. We are leaning into the PVH plus execution in 2 ways, 2 main ways. First, with a macro, my experience is when the macro gets tougher, it's really important to focus on quality of sales. So we are increasing the focus on quality of sales, even to Saks point, if that means selling less in to the wholesale channel, but securing a strong sell out margin and avoiding too much inventory in the market. So that's the first Action we take.

Speaker 2

The second is really leaning into the next level of PVH plus execution. PVH plus execution Makes a big difference independently of macro, but especially in tough macro. So a few examples I gave in terms of The product strength that we are driving in 2024, product innovation, whether it's technical performance fabrics, Whether it's more choice of our premium essentials, more transitional products, we see that. It seems like every season now Seems to start with an unusual weather situation. We can sit back and say, Okay.

Speaker 2

Or we lean in the way we do, which is say, okay, clear, we have to do more transitional products. And that you will see already in 2024. Then in consumer engagement, having in the tough macro, having market leading brands It's a huge advantage. And the way we take advantage of that consumer engagement wise is twofold. Just shot 2 very strong Marketing campaigns for spring 2024, with mega talent amplifying the improved product strength.

Speaker 2

So and then in the marketplace, what's also going to be important is to continue to invest in the consumer experience. So you will see that in investment in our stores, investments in shop in shop, in the digital experience. So overall, we are in a Tough macro in Europe leveraging better the strength, the market leading strength we have for Tommy In Europe, and then we have the strength of having one of the biggest growth brands in Europe in Cowen.

Speaker 3

Yes. And I think just to add some color to Stephane's comments about Just how disruptive the September heat wave was in Europe.

Operator

We can look at our

Speaker 3

own DTC sales. We don't typically provide intra quarter numbers, but I think it's really important context. Coming out of summer, our August DTC revenue was up 10% in Europe. Then the heatwave hits in September right as us And all of our competitors were setting fall season and sales were down 7% in September. Then in October, things recovered back being up 10%, but in a significantly more promotional environment.

Speaker 3

So in our DTC channels, we can move more quickly, the economics of our wholesalers More difficult and so we see that coming through with regard to a more cautious sell in outlook that they're putting into place and we're preparing for that Potentially carry forward in 2024. But I think what's important is that readiness shows up in profitability. Even with a lower European revenue outlook For 4Q, we expect European profit to be up over 30% versus last year in Q4. So I think that ability to manage profitability Moving into 2024 remains full. I think to answer your question on 2024 around managing operating margin in a potential flat environment, Absolutely.

Speaker 3

Our commitment is to deliver on our operating margin commitments regardless of where the top line is. I mean, I think we can look no further than 4Q for our success in doing that right now, and we'd expect for that success to carry forward into the 2024 as well. And

Speaker 2

just building on what Zach was saying here, because across the world in all our regions in a tough Macro, we have the strength of having in Calvin and Tommy, 2 of the most iconic beloved brands in the marketplace. And we have the brand building plan in PVH plus and we gain increased traction when we lean into the PVH plus execution. So from that, you will see continuously that what's within our control, we will continue to improve step by step by step. And the margin is the most in our control. That's why you hear the confidence from Sak and I.

Operator

Our next question will come from Jay Sole with UBS. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Great. Thank you so much. Stefan, I want to follow-up on your comments about the success you're seeing at Macy's. And if you can connect that to the transition that's Ongoing with G III, does it does the success you're seeing at Macy's give you the confidence that you're building the teams and the capabilities to be able to replace Those revenues that G III currently has within PVH, as the transition continues and continue to build A big business and really capture all that opportunity that's out there financially as that transition takes place?

Speaker 2

Yes. Thank you, Jay. Great question. Yes, Very encouraged by the progress we are seeing with Macy's. And this is also building on my experience being part of repositioning Ralf For sustainable growth, a number of years back, we did exactly the same thing.

Speaker 2

We partnered with Macy's and made sure that Macy's became our best full price expression. And that's what we are doing. And we are doing it in our Own controlled men's and underwear today and both Calvin and Tommy, And it's really working out. And it's the same confidence we have when it comes to taking back the licenses Over the multiyear period with G III, we are already working on making sure that the product The category offense is there, the product strength is there, and the pricing is there. So yes, equally confident when it comes to men's and women's.

Speaker 2

And the strength of Calvin and Tommy with the Macy's consumer. We are early on in doing a very deep Consumer and brand study globally, but when we start to break that down into North America and in Macy's, we see the incredible strength That both Calvin and Tommy has with Amasis Consumer. So incredible awareness, very strong consideration and very strong brand love. So we have all the pieces in place from the consumer love for our brands and putting all the pieces in place for successfully taking back the licenses. So very encouraged.

Speaker 6

Got it. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Jay. We have time for one more question.

Operator

And that question will come from Dana Telsey with Telsey Advisory Group, please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Hi, nice to see the progress. Just continuing on the thought of the wholesale business, which is so important and the progress that you've made in North America, as you mentioned with MACI's, during this time period in Europe where the macro is more a little bit more challenging. Are there relationship enhancements or business enhancements that are being done on the wholesale side in Europe that can mirror North America and that there are partners like Macy's that you see as dominant in Europe is what you see here in North America. Just looking for some color on the wholesale in Europe and that potential. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thank you, Dana. It's also an important question. And so we have market leading strength in Europe and very strong partnership with the strongest wholesale retailers. And when I look back at the past few months when I referenced seeing 50 over 50 stores and doors in 5, 6 countries also met with key partners like Peak and Kloppenburg, Zalando.

Speaker 2

So very much focused on the same thing, Next level PVH plus execution. So, to your point, there is the strength in the brands and the consumer love It's unprecedented for us in Europe. And then the strength when we lean into essentials and we build out Choices of our best essentials must haves in the market when we have the right newness, when we have the right cut through campaigns, When we partner with our wholesalers to amplify that with the strength in product, strength in talent and strength that the retailers have, It's very encouraging.

Speaker 7

So overall Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Dana. So overall, thank you very much for joining our call today. As you can hear from us, we feel very strong about the increased Traction we get on the PVH plus plan, we recognize the tough macro we are navigating. We also recognize the strength that we have in our hands with these 2 very strong brands, the plan And the execution strength that comes out of that plan that we are just in the beginning of tapping into. So looking forward to Catching up next quarter on the progress that we will be relentless in driving.

Speaker 2

And then ahead of that, I just wish everybody a really happy holiday. Thank

Speaker 3

you.

Operator

This does conclude today's PVH Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call.

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