NYSE:JBI Janus International Group Q3 2023 Earnings Report $6.40 +0.34 (+5.53%) Closing price 04/17/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$6.40 +0.01 (+0.16%) As of 04/17/2025 04:30 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Janus International Group EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.27Consensus EPS $0.24Beat/MissBeat by +$0.03One Year Ago EPSN/AJanus International Group Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$280.10 millionExpected Revenue$276.58 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$3.52 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AJanus International Group Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2023Date11/6/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateMonday, November 6, 2023Conference Call Time10:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsJanus International Group's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 8, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 10:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Janus International Group Q3 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 6, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Hello, and welcome to the Janus International Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Currently, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to your host, Mr. Operator00:00:26John Roll Wing, Vice President of Investor Relations, FP and A and M and A. Thank you. You may begin, Mr. Rolling. Speaker 100:00:35Thank you, operator, and thank you all for joining our Q3 2023 earnings conference call. We hope that you have seen our earnings release issued this morning. Please note that we have also posted a presentation in support of this call, As a reminder, today's conference call may include forward looking statements regarding the company's future plans and prospects. These statements are based on our current expectations and we undertake no duty to update them. It is important to note that the company's actual results may differ materially from those anticipated. Speaker 100:01:22And factors that could cause actual results to differ from anticipated results are contained in the company's latest earnings release and periodic filings are with the Securities and Exchange Commission, and we encourage you to review those factors carefully. In addition, We will be discussing or providing certain non GAAP financial measures today, including adjusted EBITDA, Adjusted EBITDA Margins, adjusted net income and adjusted EPS. Please see our earnings release and filings for a reconciliation of these non GAAP measures to their most directly comparable GAAP measures. I'm joined today by our Chief Executive Officer, Rainey Jackson, who will provide an overview of the business have given operations update and our Chief Financial Officer, Hanson Wong, who will continue with a discussion of our financial results and outlook before we open up the call for your questions. At this point, I'll turn the call over to Raymond. Speaker 200:02:32Thank you, John. Good morning, everyone. Our record financial results in the 3rd quarter built on the foundation established since we became are in a public company almost 2.5 years ago. We continue to deliver solid top line growth, profitability are rapidly leveraging while generating strong cash flows that position us to execute our disciplined capital allocation strategy. Our results through the 1st 9 months position us well to deliver another year of outstanding performance across the platform. Speaker 200:03:05The fundamentals that drive our customers and our industry remain resilient against the backdrop of economic and geopolitical uncertainty. Self storage occupancy rates remain above mid cycle levels, driving demand for new capacity from facility owners. Our backlog and visibility into our end markets gives us confidence to once again raise our outlook for the year and positions us to achieve our longer term goals for revenue, growth and margin. I would like to thank all of our employees without whom our success wouldn't be possible. Now turning to some specific thoughts around the quarter. Speaker 200:03:45Janus' record 3rd quarter operational and financial results included solid year over year gains in revenues, significant margin improvement, further deleveraging and strong cash generation. The fundamentals inherent throughout the industry that fuel investment decisions by our customers that much needed capacity are happening both through new construction As well as conversions and expansions. Over the last two quarters, the trend has favored new construction. Prior to that, R3 was the greater benefactor of customer spending, driven in part by the availability of unused brick and mortar retail space for repurposing. Demand drivers for our business remain strong and our comprehensive platform of self storage solutions means That while customer buying patterns may ebb and flow between new construction and R3, we are there for our customers with Comparable economics for both project types. Speaker 200:04:44Our NOKES Smart Entry system had another strong quarter As we continue to ramp up our capabilities and expand our market penetration. We ended Q3 of approximately 255,000 Total installed units, representing approximately 11% growth from the 2nd quarter and over 50% growth from the end of 2022. During the quarter, we announced an anticipated expansion of a major REITs installed base for our Nokia Screen digital access to over 400 additional facilities. Nokia Screen is the latest in the line of award winning smart security products in the Nokia Smart Entry product line And there's a number of exciting design features, like a customizable full graphic display screen, Wi Fi and Bluetooth connectivity, An all in one design that combines the controller and the keypad in a single device. To date, they have partnered with us to bring Nokia smart technology and digital access to approximately 700 facilities. Speaker 200:05:49And subsequent to quarter end, we announced The complete back end migration of Nokia to Amazon Web Services, allowing us to leverage AWS, Industrial IoT, AI and Security Capabilities. By running on AWS, we have increased Nokia's availability and global reach, Enabling real time over the air device management and improve the owner operator and end user experience. Our suite of remote access technologies headlined by Nokia represent the best our industry has to offer, and we continue to be are excited about both the accelerated adoption and its use in the future it has in store. Now shifting to financial highlights for the quarter. We delivered consolidated revenue of $280,100,000 an increase of approximately 6.7% as compared to the same period last year. Speaker 200:06:45That's entirely organic. New construction was the driver for the gains, Up 40.3%, which more than offset R3 and Commercial and Other being 1.9% and 11.1% lower respectively. Our adjusted EBITDA of $76,200,000 came in approximately 20.4% higher than Q3 2022, Which represents an adjusted EBITDA margin of 27.2 percent, an improvement of 310 basis points year over year. During the quarter, commercial actions, favorable mix and productivity initiatives more than offset higher costs we continue to experience in many parts of our business, Particularly Labor and Logistics. Our company continues to be a positive cash flow generator. Speaker 200:07:34Over the past 12 months through the end of Q3, Our free cash flow conversion of adjusted net income was 117%. We expect cash conversion to remain solid over time, are putting us in a position to focus on maintaining a secure balance sheet, while also preserving the firepower to preserve value, enhancing M and A opportunities as we identify them. With regard to the balance sheet, I'm extremely proud that we were able to reduce our net leverage this quarter by another 30 basis points, putting us at 1.8x net debt to trailing 12 month adjusted EBITDA at quarter end. Are now below our target range of 2 to 3 times. This represents deleveraging have a turn and a half in just the last 12 months, a testament to our continued execution and sound business fundamentals. Speaker 200:08:30Before I hand it over to Ansem, I'd like to update you once again about our progress towards our longer term objectives laid out are in our Q4 Speaker 300:08:392022 earnings call. Speaker 200:08:40The top line growth for the 1st 9 months of the year puts 2023 on track to exceed Our long term average target range of 4% to 6% organic revenue growth. Our EBITDA margins for the 3rd quarter in the 9 months of 2023 positions us well towards achieving results well within our long term average target range are of 25% to 27%. Our strong conversion of adjusted net income to free cash flow in the 1st 9 months of 2023 So it's up well against our long term average target conversion range of 75% to 100%. As I mentioned earlier, our net leverage is already below our target range. Our end markets remain strong and resilient, and we continue to look at ways to leverage our leadership position to capture additional share and create long term value for all stakeholders. Speaker 200:09:38With that, I'll turn the call over to Anselm for an overview of the financials and our updated outlook for the full year. Speaker 300:09:45Thanks, Remi, and good morning, everyone. In the Q3, revenue of $280,100,000 was up 6.7% compared to the prior year quarter. New construction led the way, while RF3 and commercial and other were lower versus the prior year quarter. We continue to show a good mix of diversity and stability from our evidenced by our consistent revenue growth led by new construction in recent quarters. While we may see significant outperformance in a given segment during the quarter based on timing of projects, revenues continue to be well balanced across our 3 sales channels over a 24 month period. Speaker 300:10:21Now diving deeper into the sales channels. Our overall strength in Acorda came primarily from new construction, which was up 40.3% year over year. The improvement was a result of the combined impact of commercial actions taken in 2021 in early 2022 to offset inflationary pressures on many of our key inputs as well as volume growth. Our R3 segment was 1.9% lower in the quarter, primarily due to the timing of projects as well as the strong Q3 of 2022. The self storage segments of the business continue to produce roughly 2 thirds of our revenues as they have consistently for the past 2 years. Speaker 300:10:59Fluctuations between new construction and R3 are expected throughout the year based on the Tanya project. Year to date, R3 is up 9.6%. Which resulted in a year over year decline of 11.1%. As markets continue to normalize, we have seen shifts in demand for certain product lines, which were at an all time high during the last couple of years. Our products are used in a broad range of end markets, including hotels, warehouses, pharmacies, schools and many others. Speaker 300:11:35We see continued potential for increased share gains in commercial and other as as well as margin improvement over time. Adjusted EBITDA of $76,200,000 was up 20.4% compared to the year ago quarter. The combination of solid demand, commercial actions and cost savings initiatives continues to help offset increases in labor as we work to scale the business for continued growth, including additional operational investments in our Nokie smart entry system. Adjusted EBITDA margin for the quarter was 27.2%, An increase of roughly 3 10 basis points from the year ago quarter. Higher revenues and favorable mix shift more than offset higher costs for labor as well as SG and A. Speaker 300:12:19As a reminder, our margin profile for new construction in Art Street is roughly similar, while our commercial and other sales trend is typically somewhat lower. Due to the relative outperformance in new construction relative to R3 and commercial in the quarter, the resulting favorable mix shift helped drive over our higher margins. In addition, during the quarter, we saw particularly strong contribution from some of our highest margin work in new construction and R3 due to the nature and timing of certain projects. We expect the revenue mix to revert to more normalized levels over time, consistent with our longer term margin outlook. For the Q3 of 2023, We produced adjusted net income of $39,000,000 which was up 20.3% from Q3 2022, Adjusted diluted earnings per share of $0.27 compared to $0.22 in the year ago quarter. Speaker 300:13:08We had another solid quarter of cash flow generation. 3rd quarter cash from operating activities was approximately $49,900,000 and free cash flow is approximately 46,000,000 This adds to our multi year trend of strong conversion of adjusted net income to free cash flow, representing a trailing 12 month free cash flow conversion of are 117 percent of adjusted net income. The strong conversion of operating cash flow to free cash flow also highlights the CapEx like nature of our business. We have begun a period of incremental growth CapEx in Europe and on the West Coast to expand production capacity as we add to our suite of offerings, Which is expected to continue over the next year. Year to date results and outlook for the remainder of the year position us to deliver on our target of 75 to 100% free cash flow conversion for the full year. Speaker 300:13:58We continue to focus on initiatives to improve working capital and strengthen our metrics. From a balance sheet perspective, during the Q3, we paid down $35,000,000 of debt using cash on hand and refinanced our 1st lien Term loan facility supported by a syndicate of leading national banks. We have a floating rate that has not changed from the previous facility despite deterioration in the credit market, are a clear indication of the strength in our business model. We ended the quarter with $625,000,000 of total debt, dollars 109,700,000 of cash and a net leverage of 1.8 times net debt to adjusted trailing 12 months EBITDA, down from 3.3 times at Now turning to our 2023 outlook. Based on our Q3 year to date results, continued strong backlog and current visibility of end markets, We are pleased to once again raise our full year 2023 outlook for revenue and adjusted EBITDA. Speaker 300:15:01We now expect revenue to be in the range of $1,080,000,000 to $1,090,000,000 a 6.4% increase at the midpoint compared to our full year 2022 results, Driven primarily by a combination of commercial actions and volume related organic growth. We expect growth in 2023 to reflect Strong underlying fundamentals we see across all three sales channels. We are raising our expectations for adjusted EBITDA to to be in the range of $280,000,000 to $290,000,000 representing a 25.6% increase at the midpoint versus our full year 2022 results. Overall, we expect our full year results to reflect a solid year of margin improvement in our business as we pursue our long term objectives to deliver Average adjusted EBITDA margin in the range of 25% to 27%. Into 2024, we expect to continue growing and delivering attractive margins and cash flow are consistent with our long term framework. Speaker 300:15:56Thank you. I will now turn the call back to Rainey for closing remarks. Speaker 200:16:00Great. Thank you again, Anson. Our results for the quarter exceeded our expectation. Looking at the balance of the year, our backlog remains strong We expect the fundamentals of our end markets and our best in class suite of offerings to continue to deliver robust revenues, Improved EBITDA margins and strong cash flow generation. I'd like to once again thank the entire Janus team for their unwavering focus And relentless execution as we continue to build long term value for all of our stakeholders. Speaker 200:16:34Thank you again for joining us. Operator, We can now open up the lines for Q and A, please. Operator00:16:41Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. Your first question comes from Brad Hewitt with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:17:10Hi, thanks. Good morning, everyone. Good morning, Brad. I'm curious if you could talk about how backlog is trending and kind of what your pipeline looks like for 2024? And maybe any thoughts on the framework for revenue growth next year relative to your 4% to 6% long term target? Speaker 200:17:29Yes. I'll speak to the backlog and pipeline. We don't give the detail as you know, but it remains strong both New construction and R3 and that speaks to the backlog and pipeline. So nothing has changed over the quarter, But strength in both. Yes. Speaker 500:17:52And Brett, we haven't provided 2024 guidance yet at this point in time. I think The best to look at is our long term framework at this point is kind of how we're seeing it right now. Speaker 400:18:05Okay. That's helpful. And then in terms of the M and A landscape, just curious whether sellers have kind of lowered their asking prices enough That you're looking to start being more active in deploying capital through acquisitions near term? Speaker 200:18:20Yes. And then also how should Speaker 400:18:21we think about your willingness To kind of lever up above the 2 to 3 times target range if the right strategic deal comes along. Speaker 200:18:29Yes. So I'll speak to the M and A. Hamsom, you can cover the leverage part. But no, look, we're uber focused on M and A right now. As you know, we have a long history of Finding assets and returning outsized growth to shareholders there. Speaker 200:18:46So in terms of Pricing, there is a little bit of give currently in the marketplace and there's a diverse group of targets that we're focused on. Speaker 500:18:57Yes. And in terms of leverage, like we said before, I don't think we've changed our focus to that. If it's a real big strategic deal that makes sense for the company, We would lever up to the higher end of the guidance range that we had. And if we went above, then we would have a good strong plan to should bring it back down in a pretty quick period of time. At this point, I think as you saw the numbers, we're in a great position. Speaker 500:19:21Our leverage ratio is actually below our Guided range, so I think it would take a meaningful deal to actually bring us above that. Speaker 100:19:32Thank you. Welcome. Operator00:19:35Next question, Daniel Moore with CJS Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:19:41Thank you. Good morning and thanks for taking Speaker 700:19:43the questions. I mean, starting obviously with new construction, which continues show really strong significant strength. What are you seeing from your customers that are just perhaps not reflected in And the CapEx spending and plans we've seen from the larger public self storage players, I mean, they remain healthy, but not necessarily indicative of these types of growth figures. So Is it share gains? Is it more aggressive deployment from small, midsized customers? Speaker 700:20:10Any color you might have would be really helpful. Speaker 200:20:13Yes. Great question. Look that the REIT sector is a small portion of our revenue. We represent the entire industry in terms of Growth in the sector. But I think if you listen to some of the calls, there's still 1 in particular mentioned they're going to flex their balance sheet in terms of bringing on capacity. Speaker 200:20:36Our 3 spending is a hot topic And we'll continue to accelerate. But look, self storage, new construction is a long game. I mean, if you hit pause on it right now, you're going to pay for it in a year or 2. So The conversations we're having is the resiliency in the market is indicative of the metrics that you're seeing And also the investment that our customers are putting into the space. Speaker 500:21:02Yes. I think Dan what I'd add is that as you know in our new construction, it's 9 to 12 months For any project get through that backlog. So there's obviously some timing in terms of what some people might see what's happening there. But As a reminder, I think if we look at our REITs and our institutional customers, they're well capitalized or well funded. And even our regular customer set, if they take advantage of our Nokie solution, they have an upper advantage in terms of ROI because it helps have improved their running costs. Speaker 500:21:36So I think there's a blend of both that is still happening, keeping the industry strong for us. Speaker 700:21:43Very helpful. And then Nokia, obviously, it was great to see the one large customer accelerate the screen rollout. What are you seeing in obviously, it's a crystal ball question, but might we see a little bit more of a snowball effect with The larger folks, maybe pushing one another on conversion. So you're seeing any increased dialogues from Others as a result of that. Speaker 500:22:09Yes. No, Jay, great question. I think what you're seeing a lot is NOK coming up even more or so, Because there's a big pressure on what do you do with costs. Our customers, obviously, labor cost is their number 1, number 2 cost in any one of their facilities. And a lot of them are looking at solutions that will help them reduce that cost. Speaker 500:22:29And obviously, as you said in the past, Nokia is that one solution that really helps them Reduce the need for the amount of labor in their site. So a lot of discussion on that. And I think there's what I would tell you in this past quarter, even more discussion about, Hey, how do we leverage that solution to actually get those savings? Speaker 700:22:47All right. Last one, I'll jump out. But obviously, With the work on the leverage and the cash generation, you're in a lot more position of strength and flexibility. I appreciate the color on M and A. Anything else from a capital allocation perspective, given the valuation of your own shares, is that something you might consider in a significant way as well? Speaker 500:23:09Yes. I think everything is on the table like we've always said. I think I want to restress M and A is a priority For us, I think, like we said earlier, deals are starting to come with a bit more realistic expectations on pricing. So hopefully, We'll see some more come down through the pipeline that we have and hopefully we can actually execute. It's one of those things where we know that we do a great job of executing once find the right target. Speaker 500:23:35So hopefully that will happen. Speaker 700:23:39Okay. I'll jump back with any follow ups. Thanks again. Speaker 200:23:42Thanks, Dan. Thanks, Dan. Operator00:23:44Next question, Jeff Hammond with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:23:50Hey, good morning everyone. This is David Tarantino on for Jeff. Hey, David. Hey, David. Maybe on start on the margins. Speaker 800:23:58It looks like the guidance implies a little bit of step back in 4Q and it sounds like there is some unusually strong mix in self storage. Is it This kind of just implies rolls off into 4Q. And then beyond that, can you maybe talk about the sustainability of kind of these gross margin levels in particular Going into next year. Speaker 500:24:18Yes, great question. I think there's a small roll off. We had said that prior quarter we had We saw still seeing some of that favorable mix. And like you said, between higher self storage growth there, I think for a long term sustainability, One of the things we've always said is that we're always looking at productivity, constantly opportunities, and they are still are there. Our 2 factories that we're working on putting in place are not up yet. Speaker 500:24:45And once those 2 go up, we'll get So I think there's definitely more sustained productivity to help the continued margin improvement. Speaker 800:24:57Okay, great. Thank you. And then maybe just to put a finer point on the new construction in R3. I mean new construction was surprisingly strong and R3 took A little bit of a modest step back, seems like this might have just been timing. Maybe how should we think about this for the rest of 2023 and into 2024? Speaker 500:25:14Yes, yes, definitely timing. If you look at our customers, obviously, they do both types of transit generally. They can be doing new construction and R3 at the same time. And Sometimes just timing dictates that they want the new construction done earlier. So that's kind of all we're seeing right now. Speaker 500:25:29If I if the other way we look at it is just looking at The total customer spend with us and, as you blend the 2, you can see it's very strong and robust in the self storage side. Speaker 800:25:41Great. And maybe if I could sneak one more in. Could you give us a little bit of color on commercial? Obviously, it declined against What was really strong compares, maybe how should we be thinking about this going forward? Speaker 500:25:53Yes. I think what we had said in prior is still the same thing. It will continue through the end for the year definitely strong comparables to last year, but also we said that we had just some really strong Part segment to that commercial business, that was just really strong. It's back to a normal type of growth number. So once we get passed that strong apparel that we had by the end of Q4, we it should be back to a more normal kind of growth rate in that in the commercial business. Speaker 800:26:24Great. Thanks guys. Speaker 200:26:26Thank you. Operator00:26:30Next question, Stanley Elliott with Stifel. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:26:34Hey, guys. This is Andrew Mazer on for Stanley. Thank you for taking my question. On the services revenue, you all posted nice growth in the quarter year to date. I was wondering if that's driven by Like existing services offerings or are you expanding into adjacent services? Speaker 600:26:55And also, do you have any thoughts on how this Business performs if we were to see product sales slow. Speaker 500:27:03All right. Just a comment on the services piece. Like we said, you're looking at the between products and services is how we account for it. And it's just a bit of timing. Like we said in other quarters, sometimes you'll see the service piece be stronger than the products piece. Speaker 500:27:16In general, we sell a full solution to our customers. So again, sometimes timing dictates what happens or sometimes you'll see the product piece in 1 quarter stronger than the other. But in general, overall between the 2, especially on the self storage, still fairly strong for both. As to your question about kind of what happens if there's slowdown, generally, again, would happen to both at the same time, right, because it's a full solution Offering and again, right now, based on the backlog, based on the policy, we still see it fairly strong For both, but you may see a split between how much is in R3 versus new construction as well as Timing on when it's going to be in service or the products. Speaker 600:28:02And then on the Q4 guide, I was wondering if you could expand a little bit more on your outlook for incrementals In the Q4 and I guess into next year too. Where are you still seeing inflation? And do you foresee the need for additional commercial actions into next year? Speaker 200:28:21Thanks, Speaker 500:28:21Joe. Sure. Yes, we haven't provided guidance for next year, but I'll give you a little color. If you look at what we're seeing for inflation, Obviously, steel is our biggest component driver that we use. And if you attract steel beginning of the shift and till now, it was going down. Speaker 500:28:38But if you look at the last couple of weeks, it's come back up the other way. I would tell you that I wish I could forecast it as better than anyone else, but it is what it is, it's commodity. So I think the key thing is we have the levers That we need to from a commercial action, if it's sustained one way or the other way. I think right now, if you look at where the latest is, it's actually going back to almost the Kind of average at the kind of high point. So we're not past there yet. Speaker 500:29:07So I think it's just it's a cost we're going to continue to watch and then Have the appropriate action if we need to based on where it's sitting. Speaker 600:29:19Thank you. Operator00:29:21Next question is John Lovallo with UBS. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:29:26Hey, guys. Good morning. This is actually Spencer Coffman on for John. Thank you for the question and nice results. Thanks, Spencer. Speaker 900:29:32First question, hey, handsome. Overall sales were up 7% in the quarter. Is it fair to assume that this is mostly volume? And how are you guys thinking about pricing actions over the next quarter or 2? I'm trying to kind of tie back your comments on steel pricing coming in for most of the year and then Getting a little bit more volatile last few weeks. Speaker 500:29:55Yes. I think, again, it's been volatile, but if you look at the Average were steel is that even with the more recent announcement of steel price increases, it's still kind of if you did an average, you're Still about the average where we did our last commercial action. So at this point, again, not saying that we wouldn't do an action if we need to, but right now, If you looked at that, you'd assume, hey, where we price it is probably matching kind of where our cost is coming in right now on average. And in terms of kind of what you saw in volume, it's a mix. If you look at the overall, a lot of the growth is still pricing. Speaker 500:30:31But if you look at it split between commercial and the self storage side, yes, there's a decent amount of volume that we're seeing on the self storage side. Speaker 900:30:40Okay. That makes sense. I think you talked about a newer competitor coming to Nokie's market fairly recently. Can you just give us an update on how you're seeing the competitive dynamics in Speaker 200:30:51that business? Speaker 500:30:53Still I think it's still early to say Because I think there's definitely competitors in there. But at least from our view of the market, what we've seen so far, we haven't Seeing anyone close to kind of obviously the amount of deals and implementations we're putting in right now. And I think it's good to have another challenger out there. I think if you look at our Milky solution, what we offer there, Let's just say there'll be more offerings coming out of that business that we're doing because of what we've learned with the initial solutions that we've had out there And constantly looking at how to improve and add more value added offerings to our customers. Speaker 200:31:31Yes. One more thing. The new entrants, Just right off the bat are generations behind where we stand today. We've been at this for several years, Very integrated into our customers are learning a lot adapting to their actual needs. We continue to bring out new products the AWS partnership was extremely beneficial and we're starting to see that with the Productivity in the solution. Speaker 200:32:00So and keep in mind, we integrate this with our doors and hallways. So we're the number one provider in the space. And it's just going to be difficult for competitors to kind of match that value proposition. Speaker 900:32:15Right. Okay. That's super helpful. If I could just squeeze one more in here. Any thoughts as to where industry capacity utilization is right now versus the target 85%? Speaker 200:32:26Yes. I think it's in the mid to lower 90s right now depending on we haven't heard all of the REITs report yet. But I think the ones that have reported are around mid- to low 90%. Thanks, guys. Thank you. Operator00:32:43There are no further questions. I would like to turn the floor over to Raimi for closing remarks. Speaker 200:32:48All right. Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We appreciate your support of Janus International and look forward to updating you on our progress. Have a great day. Operator00:32:57This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. 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There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Hello, and welcome to the Janus International Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Currently, all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to your host, Mr. Operator00:00:26John Roll Wing, Vice President of Investor Relations, FP and A and M and A. Thank you. You may begin, Mr. Rolling. Speaker 100:00:35Thank you, operator, and thank you all for joining our Q3 2023 earnings conference call. We hope that you have seen our earnings release issued this morning. Please note that we have also posted a presentation in support of this call, As a reminder, today's conference call may include forward looking statements regarding the company's future plans and prospects. These statements are based on our current expectations and we undertake no duty to update them. It is important to note that the company's actual results may differ materially from those anticipated. Speaker 100:01:22And factors that could cause actual results to differ from anticipated results are contained in the company's latest earnings release and periodic filings are with the Securities and Exchange Commission, and we encourage you to review those factors carefully. In addition, We will be discussing or providing certain non GAAP financial measures today, including adjusted EBITDA, Adjusted EBITDA Margins, adjusted net income and adjusted EPS. Please see our earnings release and filings for a reconciliation of these non GAAP measures to their most directly comparable GAAP measures. I'm joined today by our Chief Executive Officer, Rainey Jackson, who will provide an overview of the business have given operations update and our Chief Financial Officer, Hanson Wong, who will continue with a discussion of our financial results and outlook before we open up the call for your questions. At this point, I'll turn the call over to Raymond. Speaker 200:02:32Thank you, John. Good morning, everyone. Our record financial results in the 3rd quarter built on the foundation established since we became are in a public company almost 2.5 years ago. We continue to deliver solid top line growth, profitability are rapidly leveraging while generating strong cash flows that position us to execute our disciplined capital allocation strategy. Our results through the 1st 9 months position us well to deliver another year of outstanding performance across the platform. Speaker 200:03:05The fundamentals that drive our customers and our industry remain resilient against the backdrop of economic and geopolitical uncertainty. Self storage occupancy rates remain above mid cycle levels, driving demand for new capacity from facility owners. Our backlog and visibility into our end markets gives us confidence to once again raise our outlook for the year and positions us to achieve our longer term goals for revenue, growth and margin. I would like to thank all of our employees without whom our success wouldn't be possible. Now turning to some specific thoughts around the quarter. Speaker 200:03:45Janus' record 3rd quarter operational and financial results included solid year over year gains in revenues, significant margin improvement, further deleveraging and strong cash generation. The fundamentals inherent throughout the industry that fuel investment decisions by our customers that much needed capacity are happening both through new construction As well as conversions and expansions. Over the last two quarters, the trend has favored new construction. Prior to that, R3 was the greater benefactor of customer spending, driven in part by the availability of unused brick and mortar retail space for repurposing. Demand drivers for our business remain strong and our comprehensive platform of self storage solutions means That while customer buying patterns may ebb and flow between new construction and R3, we are there for our customers with Comparable economics for both project types. Speaker 200:04:44Our NOKES Smart Entry system had another strong quarter As we continue to ramp up our capabilities and expand our market penetration. We ended Q3 of approximately 255,000 Total installed units, representing approximately 11% growth from the 2nd quarter and over 50% growth from the end of 2022. During the quarter, we announced an anticipated expansion of a major REITs installed base for our Nokia Screen digital access to over 400 additional facilities. Nokia Screen is the latest in the line of award winning smart security products in the Nokia Smart Entry product line And there's a number of exciting design features, like a customizable full graphic display screen, Wi Fi and Bluetooth connectivity, An all in one design that combines the controller and the keypad in a single device. To date, they have partnered with us to bring Nokia smart technology and digital access to approximately 700 facilities. Speaker 200:05:49And subsequent to quarter end, we announced The complete back end migration of Nokia to Amazon Web Services, allowing us to leverage AWS, Industrial IoT, AI and Security Capabilities. By running on AWS, we have increased Nokia's availability and global reach, Enabling real time over the air device management and improve the owner operator and end user experience. Our suite of remote access technologies headlined by Nokia represent the best our industry has to offer, and we continue to be are excited about both the accelerated adoption and its use in the future it has in store. Now shifting to financial highlights for the quarter. We delivered consolidated revenue of $280,100,000 an increase of approximately 6.7% as compared to the same period last year. Speaker 200:06:45That's entirely organic. New construction was the driver for the gains, Up 40.3%, which more than offset R3 and Commercial and Other being 1.9% and 11.1% lower respectively. Our adjusted EBITDA of $76,200,000 came in approximately 20.4% higher than Q3 2022, Which represents an adjusted EBITDA margin of 27.2 percent, an improvement of 310 basis points year over year. During the quarter, commercial actions, favorable mix and productivity initiatives more than offset higher costs we continue to experience in many parts of our business, Particularly Labor and Logistics. Our company continues to be a positive cash flow generator. Speaker 200:07:34Over the past 12 months through the end of Q3, Our free cash flow conversion of adjusted net income was 117%. We expect cash conversion to remain solid over time, are putting us in a position to focus on maintaining a secure balance sheet, while also preserving the firepower to preserve value, enhancing M and A opportunities as we identify them. With regard to the balance sheet, I'm extremely proud that we were able to reduce our net leverage this quarter by another 30 basis points, putting us at 1.8x net debt to trailing 12 month adjusted EBITDA at quarter end. Are now below our target range of 2 to 3 times. This represents deleveraging have a turn and a half in just the last 12 months, a testament to our continued execution and sound business fundamentals. Speaker 200:08:30Before I hand it over to Ansem, I'd like to update you once again about our progress towards our longer term objectives laid out are in our Q4 Speaker 300:08:392022 earnings call. Speaker 200:08:40The top line growth for the 1st 9 months of the year puts 2023 on track to exceed Our long term average target range of 4% to 6% organic revenue growth. Our EBITDA margins for the 3rd quarter in the 9 months of 2023 positions us well towards achieving results well within our long term average target range are of 25% to 27%. Our strong conversion of adjusted net income to free cash flow in the 1st 9 months of 2023 So it's up well against our long term average target conversion range of 75% to 100%. As I mentioned earlier, our net leverage is already below our target range. Our end markets remain strong and resilient, and we continue to look at ways to leverage our leadership position to capture additional share and create long term value for all stakeholders. Speaker 200:09:38With that, I'll turn the call over to Anselm for an overview of the financials and our updated outlook for the full year. Speaker 300:09:45Thanks, Remi, and good morning, everyone. In the Q3, revenue of $280,100,000 was up 6.7% compared to the prior year quarter. New construction led the way, while RF3 and commercial and other were lower versus the prior year quarter. We continue to show a good mix of diversity and stability from our evidenced by our consistent revenue growth led by new construction in recent quarters. While we may see significant outperformance in a given segment during the quarter based on timing of projects, revenues continue to be well balanced across our 3 sales channels over a 24 month period. Speaker 300:10:21Now diving deeper into the sales channels. Our overall strength in Acorda came primarily from new construction, which was up 40.3% year over year. The improvement was a result of the combined impact of commercial actions taken in 2021 in early 2022 to offset inflationary pressures on many of our key inputs as well as volume growth. Our R3 segment was 1.9% lower in the quarter, primarily due to the timing of projects as well as the strong Q3 of 2022. The self storage segments of the business continue to produce roughly 2 thirds of our revenues as they have consistently for the past 2 years. Speaker 300:10:59Fluctuations between new construction and R3 are expected throughout the year based on the Tanya project. Year to date, R3 is up 9.6%. Which resulted in a year over year decline of 11.1%. As markets continue to normalize, we have seen shifts in demand for certain product lines, which were at an all time high during the last couple of years. Our products are used in a broad range of end markets, including hotels, warehouses, pharmacies, schools and many others. Speaker 300:11:35We see continued potential for increased share gains in commercial and other as as well as margin improvement over time. Adjusted EBITDA of $76,200,000 was up 20.4% compared to the year ago quarter. The combination of solid demand, commercial actions and cost savings initiatives continues to help offset increases in labor as we work to scale the business for continued growth, including additional operational investments in our Nokie smart entry system. Adjusted EBITDA margin for the quarter was 27.2%, An increase of roughly 3 10 basis points from the year ago quarter. Higher revenues and favorable mix shift more than offset higher costs for labor as well as SG and A. Speaker 300:12:19As a reminder, our margin profile for new construction in Art Street is roughly similar, while our commercial and other sales trend is typically somewhat lower. Due to the relative outperformance in new construction relative to R3 and commercial in the quarter, the resulting favorable mix shift helped drive over our higher margins. In addition, during the quarter, we saw particularly strong contribution from some of our highest margin work in new construction and R3 due to the nature and timing of certain projects. We expect the revenue mix to revert to more normalized levels over time, consistent with our longer term margin outlook. For the Q3 of 2023, We produced adjusted net income of $39,000,000 which was up 20.3% from Q3 2022, Adjusted diluted earnings per share of $0.27 compared to $0.22 in the year ago quarter. Speaker 300:13:08We had another solid quarter of cash flow generation. 3rd quarter cash from operating activities was approximately $49,900,000 and free cash flow is approximately 46,000,000 This adds to our multi year trend of strong conversion of adjusted net income to free cash flow, representing a trailing 12 month free cash flow conversion of are 117 percent of adjusted net income. The strong conversion of operating cash flow to free cash flow also highlights the CapEx like nature of our business. We have begun a period of incremental growth CapEx in Europe and on the West Coast to expand production capacity as we add to our suite of offerings, Which is expected to continue over the next year. Year to date results and outlook for the remainder of the year position us to deliver on our target of 75 to 100% free cash flow conversion for the full year. Speaker 300:13:58We continue to focus on initiatives to improve working capital and strengthen our metrics. From a balance sheet perspective, during the Q3, we paid down $35,000,000 of debt using cash on hand and refinanced our 1st lien Term loan facility supported by a syndicate of leading national banks. We have a floating rate that has not changed from the previous facility despite deterioration in the credit market, are a clear indication of the strength in our business model. We ended the quarter with $625,000,000 of total debt, dollars 109,700,000 of cash and a net leverage of 1.8 times net debt to adjusted trailing 12 months EBITDA, down from 3.3 times at Now turning to our 2023 outlook. Based on our Q3 year to date results, continued strong backlog and current visibility of end markets, We are pleased to once again raise our full year 2023 outlook for revenue and adjusted EBITDA. Speaker 300:15:01We now expect revenue to be in the range of $1,080,000,000 to $1,090,000,000 a 6.4% increase at the midpoint compared to our full year 2022 results, Driven primarily by a combination of commercial actions and volume related organic growth. We expect growth in 2023 to reflect Strong underlying fundamentals we see across all three sales channels. We are raising our expectations for adjusted EBITDA to to be in the range of $280,000,000 to $290,000,000 representing a 25.6% increase at the midpoint versus our full year 2022 results. Overall, we expect our full year results to reflect a solid year of margin improvement in our business as we pursue our long term objectives to deliver Average adjusted EBITDA margin in the range of 25% to 27%. Into 2024, we expect to continue growing and delivering attractive margins and cash flow are consistent with our long term framework. Speaker 300:15:56Thank you. I will now turn the call back to Rainey for closing remarks. Speaker 200:16:00Great. Thank you again, Anson. Our results for the quarter exceeded our expectation. Looking at the balance of the year, our backlog remains strong We expect the fundamentals of our end markets and our best in class suite of offerings to continue to deliver robust revenues, Improved EBITDA margins and strong cash flow generation. I'd like to once again thank the entire Janus team for their unwavering focus And relentless execution as we continue to build long term value for all of our stakeholders. Speaker 200:16:34Thank you again for joining us. Operator, We can now open up the lines for Q and A, please. Operator00:16:41Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. Your first question comes from Brad Hewitt with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:17:10Hi, thanks. Good morning, everyone. Good morning, Brad. I'm curious if you could talk about how backlog is trending and kind of what your pipeline looks like for 2024? And maybe any thoughts on the framework for revenue growth next year relative to your 4% to 6% long term target? Speaker 200:17:29Yes. I'll speak to the backlog and pipeline. We don't give the detail as you know, but it remains strong both New construction and R3 and that speaks to the backlog and pipeline. So nothing has changed over the quarter, But strength in both. Yes. Speaker 500:17:52And Brett, we haven't provided 2024 guidance yet at this point in time. I think The best to look at is our long term framework at this point is kind of how we're seeing it right now. Speaker 400:18:05Okay. That's helpful. And then in terms of the M and A landscape, just curious whether sellers have kind of lowered their asking prices enough That you're looking to start being more active in deploying capital through acquisitions near term? Speaker 200:18:20Yes. And then also how should Speaker 400:18:21we think about your willingness To kind of lever up above the 2 to 3 times target range if the right strategic deal comes along. Speaker 200:18:29Yes. So I'll speak to the M and A. Hamsom, you can cover the leverage part. But no, look, we're uber focused on M and A right now. As you know, we have a long history of Finding assets and returning outsized growth to shareholders there. Speaker 200:18:46So in terms of Pricing, there is a little bit of give currently in the marketplace and there's a diverse group of targets that we're focused on. Speaker 500:18:57Yes. And in terms of leverage, like we said before, I don't think we've changed our focus to that. If it's a real big strategic deal that makes sense for the company, We would lever up to the higher end of the guidance range that we had. And if we went above, then we would have a good strong plan to should bring it back down in a pretty quick period of time. At this point, I think as you saw the numbers, we're in a great position. Speaker 500:19:21Our leverage ratio is actually below our Guided range, so I think it would take a meaningful deal to actually bring us above that. Speaker 100:19:32Thank you. Welcome. Operator00:19:35Next question, Daniel Moore with CJS Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:19:41Thank you. Good morning and thanks for taking Speaker 700:19:43the questions. I mean, starting obviously with new construction, which continues show really strong significant strength. What are you seeing from your customers that are just perhaps not reflected in And the CapEx spending and plans we've seen from the larger public self storage players, I mean, they remain healthy, but not necessarily indicative of these types of growth figures. So Is it share gains? Is it more aggressive deployment from small, midsized customers? Speaker 700:20:10Any color you might have would be really helpful. Speaker 200:20:13Yes. Great question. Look that the REIT sector is a small portion of our revenue. We represent the entire industry in terms of Growth in the sector. But I think if you listen to some of the calls, there's still 1 in particular mentioned they're going to flex their balance sheet in terms of bringing on capacity. Speaker 200:20:36Our 3 spending is a hot topic And we'll continue to accelerate. But look, self storage, new construction is a long game. I mean, if you hit pause on it right now, you're going to pay for it in a year or 2. So The conversations we're having is the resiliency in the market is indicative of the metrics that you're seeing And also the investment that our customers are putting into the space. Speaker 500:21:02Yes. I think Dan what I'd add is that as you know in our new construction, it's 9 to 12 months For any project get through that backlog. So there's obviously some timing in terms of what some people might see what's happening there. But As a reminder, I think if we look at our REITs and our institutional customers, they're well capitalized or well funded. And even our regular customer set, if they take advantage of our Nokie solution, they have an upper advantage in terms of ROI because it helps have improved their running costs. Speaker 500:21:36So I think there's a blend of both that is still happening, keeping the industry strong for us. Speaker 700:21:43Very helpful. And then Nokia, obviously, it was great to see the one large customer accelerate the screen rollout. What are you seeing in obviously, it's a crystal ball question, but might we see a little bit more of a snowball effect with The larger folks, maybe pushing one another on conversion. So you're seeing any increased dialogues from Others as a result of that. Speaker 500:22:09Yes. No, Jay, great question. I think what you're seeing a lot is NOK coming up even more or so, Because there's a big pressure on what do you do with costs. Our customers, obviously, labor cost is their number 1, number 2 cost in any one of their facilities. And a lot of them are looking at solutions that will help them reduce that cost. Speaker 500:22:29And obviously, as you said in the past, Nokia is that one solution that really helps them Reduce the need for the amount of labor in their site. So a lot of discussion on that. And I think there's what I would tell you in this past quarter, even more discussion about, Hey, how do we leverage that solution to actually get those savings? Speaker 700:22:47All right. Last one, I'll jump out. But obviously, With the work on the leverage and the cash generation, you're in a lot more position of strength and flexibility. I appreciate the color on M and A. Anything else from a capital allocation perspective, given the valuation of your own shares, is that something you might consider in a significant way as well? Speaker 500:23:09Yes. I think everything is on the table like we've always said. I think I want to restress M and A is a priority For us, I think, like we said earlier, deals are starting to come with a bit more realistic expectations on pricing. So hopefully, We'll see some more come down through the pipeline that we have and hopefully we can actually execute. It's one of those things where we know that we do a great job of executing once find the right target. Speaker 500:23:35So hopefully that will happen. Speaker 700:23:39Okay. I'll jump back with any follow ups. Thanks again. Speaker 200:23:42Thanks, Dan. Thanks, Dan. Operator00:23:44Next question, Jeff Hammond with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:23:50Hey, good morning everyone. This is David Tarantino on for Jeff. Hey, David. Hey, David. Maybe on start on the margins. Speaker 800:23:58It looks like the guidance implies a little bit of step back in 4Q and it sounds like there is some unusually strong mix in self storage. Is it This kind of just implies rolls off into 4Q. And then beyond that, can you maybe talk about the sustainability of kind of these gross margin levels in particular Going into next year. Speaker 500:24:18Yes, great question. I think there's a small roll off. We had said that prior quarter we had We saw still seeing some of that favorable mix. And like you said, between higher self storage growth there, I think for a long term sustainability, One of the things we've always said is that we're always looking at productivity, constantly opportunities, and they are still are there. Our 2 factories that we're working on putting in place are not up yet. Speaker 500:24:45And once those 2 go up, we'll get So I think there's definitely more sustained productivity to help the continued margin improvement. Speaker 800:24:57Okay, great. Thank you. And then maybe just to put a finer point on the new construction in R3. I mean new construction was surprisingly strong and R3 took A little bit of a modest step back, seems like this might have just been timing. Maybe how should we think about this for the rest of 2023 and into 2024? Speaker 500:25:14Yes, yes, definitely timing. If you look at our customers, obviously, they do both types of transit generally. They can be doing new construction and R3 at the same time. And Sometimes just timing dictates that they want the new construction done earlier. So that's kind of all we're seeing right now. Speaker 500:25:29If I if the other way we look at it is just looking at The total customer spend with us and, as you blend the 2, you can see it's very strong and robust in the self storage side. Speaker 800:25:41Great. And maybe if I could sneak one more in. Could you give us a little bit of color on commercial? Obviously, it declined against What was really strong compares, maybe how should we be thinking about this going forward? Speaker 500:25:53Yes. I think what we had said in prior is still the same thing. It will continue through the end for the year definitely strong comparables to last year, but also we said that we had just some really strong Part segment to that commercial business, that was just really strong. It's back to a normal type of growth number. So once we get passed that strong apparel that we had by the end of Q4, we it should be back to a more normal kind of growth rate in that in the commercial business. Speaker 800:26:24Great. Thanks guys. Speaker 200:26:26Thank you. Operator00:26:30Next question, Stanley Elliott with Stifel. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:26:34Hey, guys. This is Andrew Mazer on for Stanley. Thank you for taking my question. On the services revenue, you all posted nice growth in the quarter year to date. I was wondering if that's driven by Like existing services offerings or are you expanding into adjacent services? Speaker 600:26:55And also, do you have any thoughts on how this Business performs if we were to see product sales slow. Speaker 500:27:03All right. Just a comment on the services piece. Like we said, you're looking at the between products and services is how we account for it. And it's just a bit of timing. Like we said in other quarters, sometimes you'll see the service piece be stronger than the products piece. Speaker 500:27:16In general, we sell a full solution to our customers. So again, sometimes timing dictates what happens or sometimes you'll see the product piece in 1 quarter stronger than the other. But in general, overall between the 2, especially on the self storage, still fairly strong for both. As to your question about kind of what happens if there's slowdown, generally, again, would happen to both at the same time, right, because it's a full solution Offering and again, right now, based on the backlog, based on the policy, we still see it fairly strong For both, but you may see a split between how much is in R3 versus new construction as well as Timing on when it's going to be in service or the products. Speaker 600:28:02And then on the Q4 guide, I was wondering if you could expand a little bit more on your outlook for incrementals In the Q4 and I guess into next year too. Where are you still seeing inflation? And do you foresee the need for additional commercial actions into next year? Speaker 200:28:21Thanks, Speaker 500:28:21Joe. Sure. Yes, we haven't provided guidance for next year, but I'll give you a little color. If you look at what we're seeing for inflation, Obviously, steel is our biggest component driver that we use. And if you attract steel beginning of the shift and till now, it was going down. Speaker 500:28:38But if you look at the last couple of weeks, it's come back up the other way. I would tell you that I wish I could forecast it as better than anyone else, but it is what it is, it's commodity. So I think the key thing is we have the levers That we need to from a commercial action, if it's sustained one way or the other way. I think right now, if you look at where the latest is, it's actually going back to almost the Kind of average at the kind of high point. So we're not past there yet. Speaker 500:29:07So I think it's just it's a cost we're going to continue to watch and then Have the appropriate action if we need to based on where it's sitting. Speaker 600:29:19Thank you. Operator00:29:21Next question is John Lovallo with UBS. Please go ahead. Speaker 900:29:26Hey, guys. Good morning. This is actually Spencer Coffman on for John. Thank you for the question and nice results. Thanks, Spencer. Speaker 900:29:32First question, hey, handsome. Overall sales were up 7% in the quarter. Is it fair to assume that this is mostly volume? And how are you guys thinking about pricing actions over the next quarter or 2? I'm trying to kind of tie back your comments on steel pricing coming in for most of the year and then Getting a little bit more volatile last few weeks. Speaker 500:29:55Yes. I think, again, it's been volatile, but if you look at the Average were steel is that even with the more recent announcement of steel price increases, it's still kind of if you did an average, you're Still about the average where we did our last commercial action. So at this point, again, not saying that we wouldn't do an action if we need to, but right now, If you looked at that, you'd assume, hey, where we price it is probably matching kind of where our cost is coming in right now on average. And in terms of kind of what you saw in volume, it's a mix. If you look at the overall, a lot of the growth is still pricing. Speaker 500:30:31But if you look at it split between commercial and the self storage side, yes, there's a decent amount of volume that we're seeing on the self storage side. Speaker 900:30:40Okay. That makes sense. I think you talked about a newer competitor coming to Nokie's market fairly recently. Can you just give us an update on how you're seeing the competitive dynamics in Speaker 200:30:51that business? Speaker 500:30:53Still I think it's still early to say Because I think there's definitely competitors in there. But at least from our view of the market, what we've seen so far, we haven't Seeing anyone close to kind of obviously the amount of deals and implementations we're putting in right now. And I think it's good to have another challenger out there. I think if you look at our Milky solution, what we offer there, Let's just say there'll be more offerings coming out of that business that we're doing because of what we've learned with the initial solutions that we've had out there And constantly looking at how to improve and add more value added offerings to our customers. Speaker 200:31:31Yes. One more thing. The new entrants, Just right off the bat are generations behind where we stand today. We've been at this for several years, Very integrated into our customers are learning a lot adapting to their actual needs. We continue to bring out new products the AWS partnership was extremely beneficial and we're starting to see that with the Productivity in the solution. Speaker 200:32:00So and keep in mind, we integrate this with our doors and hallways. So we're the number one provider in the space. And it's just going to be difficult for competitors to kind of match that value proposition. Speaker 900:32:15Right. Okay. That's super helpful. If I could just squeeze one more in here. Any thoughts as to where industry capacity utilization is right now versus the target 85%? Speaker 200:32:26Yes. I think it's in the mid to lower 90s right now depending on we haven't heard all of the REITs report yet. But I think the ones that have reported are around mid- to low 90%. Thanks, guys. Thank you. Operator00:32:43There are no further questions. I would like to turn the floor over to Raimi for closing remarks. Speaker 200:32:48All right. Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We appreciate your support of Janus International and look forward to updating you on our progress. Have a great day. Operator00:32:57This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. And thank queue for your participation.Read morePowered by