National Vision Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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November 7, 2023

There are 14 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning. My name is Christa, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Elanco Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session.

Operator

Thank you. I would now like to turn the conference over to Katie Grissom, Head of Investor Relations. You may begin your conference.

Speaker 1

Good morning. Thank you for joining us on Elanco Animal Health's Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. I'm Katie Grissom, Head of Investor Relations. Joining me on today's call are Jeff Simmons, our President and Chief Executive Officer Todd Young, our Chief Financial Officer and Scott Perucker from Investor Relations. The slides referenced during today's call are available on the Investor Relations section of elanco.com.

Speaker 1

Today's discussion will include forward looking statements. These statements are based on our current assumptions and expectations and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from our forecast. For more information, see the Risk Factors in today's earnings press release as well as in our latest Form 10 ks and 10 Q filed with the SEC. We do not undertake any duty to update any forward looking statement. Our remarks today will focus on our non GAAP financial measures.

Speaker 1

Reconciliations of these non GAAP measures are included in the appendix of today's slides and in the earnings press release. After our prepared remarks, we'll be happy to take your questions. I'll now turn the call over to Jeff.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Katie. Good morning, everyone. Elanco reported a strong Q3 delivering top line, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EPS growth. We exceeded our expectations on all key non GAAP metrics, while weathering the unfavorable strengthening of the U. S.

Speaker 2

Dollar that occurred late in the quarter. Constant currency revenue growth of 5% was driven by accelerating contribution from innovation, stabilizing core volumes and price growth. Along with the improving market conditions, constant currency revenue growth of 6% for Pet Health and 4% for Farm Animal Was enabled by our differentiated global omnichannel approach, strategic leverage of our diverse portfolio and our enhanced capabilities and leadership. We believe this provides the framework for continued top line growth for Elanco in the Q4 and in 2024. Starting on Slide 4, in the 3rd quarter price growth of 4% and sequential improvement in year over year Volume growth was driven by both Pet Health and Farm Animal, leading to adjusted EBITDA growth of 5% and adjusted EPS growth of 6%.

Speaker 2

We made significant progress on innovation in the Q3 completing FDA submissions for 3 late stage potential blockbuster products, All with a path towards approval in the first half of twenty twenty four. Improving cash generation and reducing leverage Remain Priorities for Elanco. In the quarter, operating cash flow was $198,000,000 and we repaid $156,000,000 of debt as we continue to advance efforts to improve networking capital and operating cash flow. As we look to the 4th quarter, we are tightening our full year guidance ranges to reflect 3rd quarter outperformance and incremental headwinds from the strengthening U. S.

Speaker 2

Dollar since our August call. We are raising the midpoint of our constant currency revenue growth guidance, now expecting flat to 1% growth for the year and raising the midpoint for both adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EPS guidance despite increasing FX headwinds. Moving to Slide 5. Our 5% constant currency revenue growth for the quarter was driven primarily by our international business. In line with our expectations, the global business benefited from price, stabilizing core volumes, innovation and improved supply.

Speaker 2

In the Q3, U. S. Pet Health revenue was flat as execution across share of voice, physical availability, innovation, price and improved supply for vaccines was offset by competitive pressure and a softer vet clinic end market later in the quarter. As the industry continues to track the impact of lower vet visits, we highlight that only about 18% of our total global businesses sold through the U. S.

Speaker 2

Vet Clinic, isolating our sensitivity to visit trends to a subset of our portfolio. Outside of the vet clinic, our leadership in the OTC business provides the diversity of channels and price points desired by many pet owners. Our recent innovation and broad OTC portfolio allow us to take advantage of the resiliency we have seen in the OTC market, particularly with value and treatment offerings, leading to year to date growth of 10% for OTC products in retail channels. We continue to see the growth in e commerce for both OTC and prescription products outpace other channels, where greater enrollment in subscription programs is resulting in higher compliance rates. Overall, We believe our differentiated omni channel approach across both prescription and OTC products as well as vet clinic and retail channels positions us well in pet health in the U.

Speaker 2

S. And globally. Moving to International Pet Health. The 16% constant currency revenue growth was driven by better economic environment in Europe as compared to the Q3 of last year and expanded commercial capabilities, contributing to double digit growth for both Seresto and the ADDvantage family outside of the U. S.

Speaker 2

Additionally, new products led by Credelio Plus and Adtab contributed to growth. Next, International Farm Animal, the largest revenue contributor of our 4 quadrants delivered 5% constant currency revenue growth, primarily driven by price, cattle and poultry, where growth was enabled by strong underlying markets, share growth in key markets like the U. K. And increased supply capacity. Finally, our U.

Speaker 2

S. Farm animal business returned to growth at 2% after several quarters of decline. Growth was driven by innovation, primarily Exterior, partially offset by timing of poultry rotations and regulatory changes impacting certain cattle products. We are encouraged by Experia's progress and remain confident in the expected annualized run rate of approximately $60,000,000 to $70,000,000 of revenue for the product as we exit 2023. Moving to Slide 6, I'd like to highlight several key drivers of our innovation portfolio and productivity strategy since our last call.

Speaker 2

Starting with productivity, we are very focused on improving cash conversion to enable debt pay down. While margin expansion remains important, we are broadly prioritizing cash generation acknowledging the leverage we currently carry. The company wide focus is supported in part by our shift to Elanco cash earnings, our EVA like bonus metric. Importantly, we have nearly completed the cash outlay necessary for project cost to support our systems integration earlier this year. With this project behind us and our continued efforts on improving networking capital, we expect improved operating cash flow next year.

Speaker 2

Moving to portfolio. Price growth was 4% in the quarter with 4% in Pet Health and 3% in Farm Animal. We continue to expect at least 3% for the full year. Importantly, in the Q3, we saw volume growth in both pet health and farm animal. Contributing to this, our manufacturing and quality organization delivered improved supply for vaccines in cattle and pet health and expanded capacity in poultry contributing to growth.

Speaker 2

Overall, we see our core portfolio volumes stabilizing with increased competitiveness of the overall portfolio, driven by first stronger commercial capabilities and then our global omnichannel approach And then with the complement of adding innovation into our total portfolio. Now on innovation, our already launched products continue to gain momentum, led by Experian NutriQuest on the farm animal side and Credelio Plus and OTC Retail Innovations on the pet health side with lifecycle management contributing across both. We continue to expect $210,000,000 to $250,000,000 of revenue contribution from these new innovations this year. Our canine parvovirus monoclonal antibody remains on track for supply constrained sales of $5,000,000 to $7,000,000 in 2023, And we expect increased supply availability from our expanded capacity in early 2024, allowing the product to be a key contributor to innovation growth next year. On the late stage pipeline, we have completed FDA submissions for Credelio Quatro, Bover and our JAK inhibitor for canine dermatology, which upon approval will be known as VENRELLIA.

Speaker 2

These 3 potential blockbusters continue to have a path towards U. S. Approval in the first half of twenty twenty four. Additionally, we initiated globalization of XENRELEA with submissions in Canada and Japan. We've updated our innovation chart on Slide 7 of today's presentation.

Speaker 2

This is an exciting time at Elanco as we return to revenue growth as a company. We are entering a new era of opportunity in pet health and in the emerging space of livestock sustainability. We believe these areas will be the drivers of sustainable growth going forward. So let me share a few specifics on our progress in each area. For Pet Health, We are focused on increasing our commercial competitiveness and have previously highlighted the strategic enablers of enhancing our share of voice, Expanding Physical Availability, Optimizing Pricing and Leveraging Innovation.

Speaker 2

To enhance our share of voice, we're expanding our U. S. Pet Health sales team to deepen relationships with veterinary clinics. We are targeting a 25% expansion, approximately 75 professionals across our veterinarian sales team. There is strong interest from experienced animal health professionals, bringing with them relationships and expertise.

Speaker 2

For our veterinary clinic facing team, the expansion will create smaller territories, allowing for more time with clinics, And this is expected to drive increased penetration and reorder rates. Next in the share voice area, Over the last several years, we have transformed our commercial model using data, analytics and digital tools to more efficiently and effectively reach veterinary clinics through multichannel approach. Through connected touch points, we can reach over 80% of our priority clinics via 2 or more channels, creating an integrated online and offline experience. When implementing this optimized experience with zorbian, our post operative pain product for cats, we saw a 2x increase in sales. Next, we've developed an AI based recommendation engine, enhancing our ability of our sales force to deliver the right message at the right time to our customers, leading to increased sales in a pilot earlier this year.

Speaker 2

We rolled out this virtual assistant platform broadly enabling reps to better prioritize and personalized engagements, deepen relationships and improve conversion. With these enhancements, our sales force is simply more efficient. Products launched using this multi channel approach and analytics informed engagement strategy reduced the average time to purchase after launch by 28%. On the OTC side, in the area of physical availability, our U. S.

Speaker 2

Pet health retail team leveraging their CPG experience has reimagined the opportunity for our OTC parasiticides portfolio. For context, today OTC flea and tick pet products are sold in about 75 percent of brick and mortar universe in the U. S. However, Elanco products are only sold in about 25% of those distribution points, creating meaningful opportunities to expand physical availability of our products. We are targeting expanded points of distribution in channels like grocery, dollar stores, warehouse clubs and pharmacy, with many already secured for next year.

Speaker 2

Paired with the opportunity to expand with existing customers, this is expected to be a volume growth driver next year and beyond. Now transitioning to progress we are helping to shape in the livestock sustainability market. Last week, Atheon, in which Elanco provided seed funding, announced they have established a first of its kind voluntary livestock carbon inset marketplace, Creating the opportunity for a new value stream for farmers. By using validated science based protocols for product interventions like our Reminsen, producers can now monetize 3rd party verified greenhouse gas emissions reductions. Atheon has verified its first farms, Creating, certifying and selling carbon credits within the dairy supply chain.

Speaker 2

Since last week's announcement, a leading dairy processor has committed to purchase 1st credits, and we're excited about the robust demand we see from leading food companies. On Slide 8, we provide an overview of the emerging ecosystem and note the importance of food manufacturers, restaurants and retailers within the dairy supply chain Who have committed to approximately 100,000,000 metric tons of greenhouse gas emissions reductions. We see This carbon inset marketplace coming to life and expect to create significant food chain and farmer value that would enable livestock sustainability to become the next $1,000,000,000 to $2,000,000,000 global market in animal health, Fueling Elanco's Next Era of Farm Animal Growth. With that, I'll turn it over to Todd.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Jeff, and good morning, everyone. Today, I'll focus my comments on our Q3 adjusted measures, so please refer to today's earnings press release for a detailed description of the year over year changes in our reported results. We reported a strong quarter with growth in revenue, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EPS. Starting on Slide 10, we delivered $1,060,000,000 in revenue, representing 4% reported growth or 5% in constant currency. Foreign exchange rates represented a headwind of $5,000,000 compared to the Q3 of 2022.

Speaker 3

In our August guidance, we expected a $10,000,000 year over year benefit in reported results that did not materialize given the dollar strength. Price contributed 4% and volume growth was 1% in the quarter. Slide 11 provides revenue by the 4 quadrants of our business in the quarter. Total pet health revenue grew 6% in the 3rd quarter with price growth of 4%. Our U.

Speaker 3

S. Business was flat with growth from price, innovation sales and the return on supply for vaccines, offset by competitive pressures in the veterinary clinic. Based on our current view, we assume our retail partners will broadly work down inventories in the Q4, in line with last year, While continuing to benefit from retail volumes performing much better for us in 2023, even during our current flea and tick off season. In International Pet Health, constant currency growth of 16% or $27,000,000 significantly contributed to the company's over performance in the Q3 compared to our August guidance. Improved market conditions year over year, specifically in Europe, our differentiated omnichannel approach and Innovation drove growth.

Speaker 3

In the Q4, we expect year over year market improvement and the ramp of Credelio Plus and AdTab to contribute to growth. Moving to farm animal. Total global revenue grew 4% in constant currency year over year. International farm animal revenue grew 5% in constant currency, Primarily Driven by Poultry and Strength in Cattle Parasiticides, Partially Offset by Slight Declines in Swine and Aqua. U.

Speaker 3

S. Farm Animal revenue grew 2%, primarily driven by the continued ramp of Expiry. Cattle vaccines grew slightly in the quarter We expect continued improvement in the 4th quarter. Poultry declined as customer rotations on to our products were strong in the Q3 of last year. We expect improvement in poultry in the 4th quarter as a result of confirmed rotations onto Elanco products, including Tyson's reintroduction of Animal Only Antibiotics or ionophores into the upholstery supply chain.

Speaker 3

Finally, we expect Farm Animal Distributors to reduce their purchases Q4 as they manage their working capital. Continuing down the income statement on Slide 12, gross margin increased 50 basis points to 54.5 percent of revenue. Price growth and productivity were partially offset by higher inflation, losses and an approximate 120 basis point headwind from reduced throughput at our manufacturing plants. This headwind is expected to accelerate in the Q4 and throughout 2024, but is a key lever as we work to reduce balance sheet inventory and improved net working capital. Operating expense increased by 6% in the 3rd quarter, driven by increased investments supporting our pet health business, higher project spend in R and D and increased people related expenses.

Speaker 3

Our increased investment in the business presents a near term EBITDA headwind, but we expect it will contribute to sustainable top line growth by accelerating innovation contribution and helping to stabilize core volumes. Interest expense was $72,000,000 An increase of $14,000,000 year over year as a result of higher interest rates. Our debt is approximately 76% fixed and interest expense was $8,000,000 below our expectations for the quarter as a result of lower gross debt and capital market transactions that we executed in the quarter, which I will elaborate on shortly. Adjusted EBITDA was $214,000,000 in the quarter, an increase of 5% compared to the Q3 of 2022. Adjusted EPS was $0.18 an increase of 6% in the quarter.

Speaker 3

On Slide 13, we include a bridge of 3rd quarter results compared to our August guidance. Now let me offer a few words on our cash, working capital and debt on Slide 14. Cash provided by operations was $198,000,000 in the quarter. While inventory was a use of cash in the quarter, performance was better than the Q3 of last year. This was partially offset by a larger benefit from interest rate swap settlements was $75,000,000 last year compared to $57,000,000 this year.

Speaker 3

We continue to prioritize efforts to manage our balance sheet inventory, including slowing production at certain manufacturing sites, assessing safety stock levels by product in identifying supply chain opportunities to manage API and raw material inputs. These efforts are expected to deliver benefits to the balance gradually over time as we implement changes while also prioritizing new product launch supply needs. We've updated Slides 2526 in the appendix to reflect updates to our key debt information. In September, we restructured $3,000,000,000 of our interest rate swaps, Provided a cash benefit in the quarter that will unwind over the next 12 quarters, and we extended the tenors of the swaps by a year, which will reduce our exposure to interest rate changes until August of 2026. At the same time, we entered into a net investment hedge, which is expected to reduce both our income statement and cash interest expense over the next 3 years.

Speaker 3

Based on our Q3 debt pay down in these transactions, We now expect to have income statement interest expense of approximately $280,000,000 and cash interest between $380,000,000 $385,000,000 in 2023. If we assume flat interest rates throughout 2024, no more Fed rate adjustments, we expect 2024 income statement interest expense of $280,000,000 to $295,000,000 and cash interest between $340,000,000 $355,000,000 As Jeff mentioned, year to date, we've completed about 90% of the cash outlay supporting our system integration in 2023 and continue to expect meaningful reduction in project cash costs beginning in 2024. In the Q3, we paid down $156,000,000 of debt and net leverage declined to 5.7 times from 5.9x at the end of the second quarter. We remain confident in our full year debt pay down expectations of $50,000,000 and expect year end leverage to be between 5.5x and 5.8x. In the quarter, we recorded a non cash pretax goodwill impairment charge impacting reported EPS by $2.10 which was excluded from our non GAAP results.

Speaker 3

The accounting charge was primarily driven by the sharp increase in long term treasury rates used in our goodwill impairment analysis, while the expectations for our long range plans remain consistent. Finally, let's move to guidance on Slide 16. The outlook for our underlying business is above our expectations in the second half of twenty twenty three. However, the U. S.

Speaker 3

Dollar has strengthened since August. Today, we are tightening our guidance ranges while reflecting an increase to the midpoint of our expectations for constant currency revenue growth, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EPS. For the top line, we now expect a headwind of approximately $70,000,000 for the full year or a $40,000,000 increase from our August guidance using foreign exchange rates as of early November. We expect full year revenue between 4.36 $1,000,000,000 $4,400,000,000 representing flat to 1% constant currency growth compared to our previous guidance of 1% decline to 1% growth. We expect adjusted EBITDA of $965,000,000 to $1,000,000,000 and adjusted EPS between $0.88 $0.94 for the full year.

Speaker 3

As detailed on Slide 17, compared to our August guidance, adjusted EPS is increasing more than adjusted EBITDA as we reduce interest expense expectations based on entering the net investment hedge and restructuring our interest rate swaps. We are also reducing our effective tax rate expectations to adjust for lower expected foreign income tax inclusions in 2023 aligned with the actual results in our 2022 U. S. Federal income tax return that we filed last month. Our Q4 guidance is detailed on Slide 18.

Speaker 3

We remain confident in the return to growth for the second half of the year with 2% constant currency growth at the midpoint for the 4th quarter. As detailed on Slide 19, we expect the innovation sales ramp, price, improved supply and improved EU pet retail market and growth in poultry to be the key drivers of growth, partially offset by anticipated competition in the U. S. Vet clinic and expected working capital optimization for distributors providing a headwind in the quarter. Now I'll hand it back to Jeff for closing comments.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Todd. Our continued sequential improvement in performance thus FAR in 2023 demonstrates our strategy is working as we are laying the groundwork for a return to sustainable revenue growth. As we look to 2024, I want to provide some early considerations on Slide 20. First, on the headwinds. Well known competitive pressure in the U.

Speaker 2

S. Vet Clinic remains in 2024, while our commercial efforts are helping to stabilize our base volumes. On the farm animal side, we're generic competition and continued low U. S. Cattle numbers.

Speaker 2

Beyond the top line, we expect to continue to manage our internal inventory and make investments in sales and marketing for the launches. While these will create tension on margins, they're expected to deliver long term value. Finally, using early November foreign exchange rates, we anticipate that the headwind from the U. S. Dollar strength will continue into next year.

Speaker 2

As we think about the tailwinds in 2024, we're confident in constant currency revenue growth for our business next year. Contributions from innovation will accelerate with the ramp of existing products, Experior, our parvovirus monoclonal antibody, Credelio Plus and ADTAB, with 2024 launches expected to contribute to growth primarily in the second half of twenty twenty four. Strategic price growth and stabilizing core volumes will be enabled by our differentiated global omnichannel approach and strategic leverage of our diverse portfolio, All underpinned by our enhanced capabilities and leadership. Elanco has momentum going into the 4th quarter with exciting expectations for innovation, contribution and growth in 2024. We believe the external environment is manageable, And we are building the portfolio and capabilities to sustain a positive trajectory going forward.

Speaker 2

With that, I'll turn it over to Katie to moderate the Q and A.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Jeff. We'd like to take questions from as many callers as possible. So we ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Operator, please provide the instructions for the Q and A session and then we'll take the first caller.

Operator

Your first question comes from the line of Michael Ryskin from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Great. Thanks for taking the question and congrats on the quarter guys. First, I want to touch on U. S. Pet Health.

Speaker 4

I think you cited some competitive pressure there in the quarter. Obviously, there's a lot of new launches happening here. Any additional details you can provide in terms of what product areas? I mean, I imagine it's a lot of parasiticides. And thoughts on how these headwinds will play out for the next few quarters.

Speaker 4

And then I have a follow-up.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thank you, Michael. I'll jump in. Maybe I'll just start real quick before we get started and just say at a high level and then I'll get to your question. This is a big proof point and milestone quarter for Elanco.

Speaker 2

We've been chasing this quarter for some time, as you know. We've seen multiple quarters of sequential improvement, But Elanco is growing and we intend to grow the rest of this year and next year on a constant currency revenue basis and that opens up A lot of opportunity. Again, as noted, 5% overall constant currency growth, pet growing 6, farm animal growing 4, that's both volume and price growth, farm animal and pet health overall. And again, we intend to guide as we've guided here, we intend to grow in Q4 as well as we go into 2024. I'll especially note With and without the blockbusters, we see us being able to hold constant currency revenue growth.

Speaker 2

So, again, I want to just highlight that because this is something that We have been focused on for quite some time, a real credit to the Elanco team that's been determined, disciplined in its execution. We have deep belief in our strategy that we believe is working on the commercial side, the innovation side and the operational side. So, I wanted to highlight that as we get started. Now specifically, as you think about The U. S.

Speaker 2

Para market, I think we know this market well. We've been in this market a long time. The acquisition of Bayer Strengthened us and we're a leader when you look at omni channel and total portfolio. It's 20% of our global pet business when you look at the script. What we see is from our side is we're tracking and meeting our expectations So far after 3 quarters and expect that for the rest of the year.

Speaker 2

It's driven by a few things. 1, Michael, the competitive portfolio that we have, And we believe that is competitive today as even before the recent innovation has come into the marketplace. We're adding to that over time and even when we add pain, when we add parvo that opens up increased access to more clinics and that's given us strength. And then the capabilities on the commercial side from share of voice to physical availability, some of the value based pricing that we've done has also contributed to our overall U. S.

Speaker 2

Parasiticide competitiveness. And I think we've got the best team. I'll note, I just came out of The room yesterday with 60 of the 75 reps that we've hired and most of them come from the industry, come from relationships And we'll be geographically located where they have those relationships, so the territories get smaller. So and then I think last is We come with a lot of anticipation. Credelio Quattro is differentiated.

Speaker 2

It has a spectrum of protection that we believe will be quite differentiated and we're making progress in that innovation. So that's I think I would emphasize and close with Year to date, we're tracking to our U. S. Payer expectations and expect to stay competitive rest of this year and going into next year.

Speaker 1

Mike, did you have a follow-up? Yes.

Speaker 4

Thanks. And then tied to that a bit, I want to talk about SG and A and investment in the business. I think you called out investment spend in pet health a few times and you talked about the 25% increase in U. S. Pet sales force.

Speaker 4

I just want Trying to quantify that in terms of how it relates to SG and A spend and how it will play out next year. And if I look at the slide deck, Slide 26, You've got adjusted EBITDA with an arrow up into the right and that's 2024 and beyond. So I just want to specify, are you pointing to adjusted EBITDA growth in 2024 or just constant currency revenue growth for now. Thanks.

Speaker 5

Yes, Mike, it's Todd. Thanks for the follow-up. Yes, right now, we're saying 2024 and beyond is the long term. We expect We're not making a commitment on the EBITDA growth in 2024. We are making the commitment on constant currency revenue growth.

Speaker 5

As Jeff just said, that's with or without the 3 big blockbusters that have the path to first half approval. With respect to your question on SG and A investments, We are getting these sales reps on. Those are going to be here and to drive growth in anticipation of these new products coming to market in XINRELLIA and Credelio Quattro. That will increase our investments. We'll also have increases from paying our people And then the headwinds on the gross margin that comes from slowing down our manufacturing plants.

Speaker 5

That all being said, we're doing it to focus on driving the launches And making sure we optimize those while continuing to be disciplined where we can be on all of our cost side and driving incremental synergies like the completion of the ERP. So overall, feel good about the quarter and the setup as we continue into Q4.

Speaker 6

Great. Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jon Block from Stifel. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Great. Thanks, guys. Good morning. Maybe two questions around the same theme. Jeff, you mentioned Looking to increase the share of voice and you called out the timing of some of the pet health hires.

Speaker 7

It would seem like there's conviction on the timeline of the 1H24 approvals. Just considering ramping up the sales force already having, I think you just said, of the 75 in the organization as today. So maybe you could just update us more confident on the timing of these 3 in 1H 24 less, anything that's transpired with the agency since the last update. And then sort of the segue into the revenue growth for 2020 Todd that you did commit to, it seems like EBITDA sort of no commitment there, but revenue growth, yes. Does that include any contribution from these 3 Blockbusters in 1H24.

Speaker 7

And again, I know there's supposed to be a 2 to 4 month lag, but does that include or exclude any of those products? Thanks, guys.

Speaker 5

Mike, let me take the second one first and I'll turn it back to Jeff. Yes, we're committing excluding the product contributions from those 3 blockbusters. We do expect them to contribute to revenue primarily in the second half, but right now we're committed to growth independent of that.

Speaker 2

Yes, John, let me come back to you. First of all, on the launch side, these were decisions made. There's really two sides looking at launch. There's The fixed cost and the people side and you need to make those decisions in time. And so we've given ourselves time to say, We want to establish the team.

Speaker 2

The level of interest far exceeded our expectations and the level of talent and expertise. So, we're beginning the training, as we say, even this week, then we'll place them into the territories. And what's really critical as these territories get smaller, That it's absolutely critical that we build the relationships so that when the launches do come, the relationships are established, there is awareness And that's the number one driver to clinic penetration. That's important. And look, the sales force will be part of The organic growth of our existing portfolio and our existing innovation like parvovirus and others.

Speaker 2

So I start there and we made that conscious decision knowing that there is an investment, there is added cost. But no matter the exact timing and we don't know the exact timing of These clearances, we're going to be a more competitive U. S. Pet sales force calling on these vet clinics and we'll be prepared and our existing portfolio will win because of it. Now relative to the late stage pipeline, look, it's progressing well.

Speaker 2

We've committed we completed the submissions early in the quarter, in the third order Credelio, Quattro and Bolver. We've also, with XENRELEA, put submissions in internationally with Canada and Japan. Others will follow as we globalize these products. But look, just like human pharma, we're in the final regulatory stage. We're proactive.

Speaker 2

We're in productive discussions. It's rolling. It's iterative. We're encouraged also, I would think, by the big markets. You see Derm is still growing double digit, Pera is growing and we're opening up this livestock sustainability market.

Speaker 2

So preparing the markets also I think is really key. So that hopefully gives you some framework.

Speaker 7

It does. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question line of Erin Wright from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Great. Thanks for taking my question. So on the retail business, This is a differentiator for you and less connected to a vet office visit trend. But can you speak to the trends that you saw in the quarter. You mentioned some seasonal destock that you expect in the Q4, I think.

Speaker 8

And was there any outside stocking in the Q3 at all that we should know about? And how are you thinking about your ability to kind of expand the physical availability into the pet retail channel that you mentioned in 2024? And how do you think about just consistency and visibility on growth across that Retail segment. Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes, great. It's a great question, Aaron, and it's one that we're spending an awful lot of time on. And You're inside the walls of Elanco in the last 18 months when you look at the talent that Bobby's brought in mixed with the Bayer talent. We are reimagining what we can do with the overall Retail side, OTC side and really it's an and, right? I mean we're going to bring new products into the vet clinic.

Speaker 2

There's more Our team scripting is growing in the e com area. So there's more and more synergy here as we build, as we said, from day 1 on Bayer, Meet more pet owners where they want to shop at the price point and the portfolio that they want. And that is coming to life and I give a lot of credit to the team. I just hit each one of these. I think first of all, share of voice.

Speaker 2

We've increased campaigns, largest Seresto and Advantage campaign that we've had, Probably since we've owned Bayer and that's benefited well. So we're tracking awareness in a big way. I think this total distribution point comment, it isn't all about bricks and mortar, but bricks and mortar gives us a lot of opportunity, Aaron. I think it's kind of surprising to see that Pera, for instance, is in 75% of brick and mortar and we're only in 25% and we're the leader. So, we're up 10% year to date in our OTC business in the U.

Speaker 2

S. So our focus right now and we've locked in quite a few commitments in the areas from pharmacy to dollar to club stores and to grocery. So and we're looking also at how we can create Increased value in our offering. These retailers have a lot more needs and different needs than we currently offer. I think lastly is just innovation.

Speaker 2

It doesn't take a lot of and Elan and Bobby and the team have created a new arm of innovation on OTC and this is different types of innovation And we've seen that as we brought in about the 3 overall, I think, 4 Advantage products. And lastly, this is not just U. S. Based. I credit the international team.

Speaker 2

We grew 16% in international pet health. I point to a product like AdTab that is And that oral OTC product, it's got the active ingredients of Credelio, but it's got the brand of Advantage. And we've taken share there. We've come into that market And really showing the power of how to launch in retail well. So, this is an area of heavy focus for us.

Speaker 2

Again, I emphasize it's an and. We will be one of the Innovators inside the U. S. Vet Clinic and I hope to say we'll continue our leadership and take share in U. S.

Speaker 2

Pet retail as well.

Speaker 8

Okay. That's helpful. And then just you mentioned farm animal generics and cattle dynamics in the U. S. And a headwind in 2024.

Speaker 8

I guess, can you elaborate on that what you're seeing across the Livestock segment? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes. I think as you look at just overall the Farm Animal segment. I think, Aaron, we're going to see a tougher market in 'twenty four in Livestock and Farm Animal. And just a couple of quick comments that drive that. I think overall input costs have gotten better.

Speaker 2

Corn has gone from 6.60 down to $5.40 or so, but it's still high when you look at the conversions and historical rates. Poultry profitability, especially in the U. S. But globally, The global tensions have created trade tensions and there's less product trading and that's usually higher margin. Cattle numbers are down and there's the reg And lastly, I think the swine market, the 2 that matter, U.

Speaker 2

S. And China, we've got a Too much supply, prices aren't recovering and demand is flat. So, we see those markets. Now with that said, We've been in this business a long time. It's a durable, resilient market.

Speaker 2

Protein demand is still moderately growing. There's a lot of countries and candidly, the countries are much better at managing supply demand than they've ever been. So I don't see this as a steep valley, But I do see this as a market that's going to be challenged. Elanco, as we look at it, I think we're well positioned. We continue to see the business able to grow, Take leadership and share over time.

Speaker 2

There will be volatility, but we've got a value driven portfolio that benefits in this environment. And specifically, Aaron, I would say cattle, we've got innovation. Expiry and Bover will help drive both on beef and dairy, even with less cattle numbers. For leaders in poultry, there'll be pockets of challenge with this profitability issue, but the Tyson return to ionophores will be helpful. And swine will probably be a tougher market, but we've got a good portfolio and a good team in China and the U.

Speaker 2

S. And we'll hold as much share whether the market gets bigger or smaller. So that's what we see so far. We'll monitor it closely and share more at JPMorgan in January as we study the market.

Speaker 8

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Chris Schott from JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Great. Thanks so much. Just 2 for me. I guess first was just interested in your views on the vet visit trends we're seeing and what that's kind of implying about The economic health of the pet side of the customer base. I think there's been some debate in the market about how much of what we're seeing right now is macro versus Ongoing capacity issues and maybe Jeff just be interested in kind of where you weigh in on what we're seeing there and then one follow-up after that.

Speaker 2

Yes. Great, great question. Thanks for the question. Actually, it's something that I've spent a lot of time on, our team has. And look, we're going to monitor vet visits.

Speaker 2

They're down 1%, 1.5%, But it is not our most critical metric. We're less sensitive as a company maybe than we were 3 years ago. We think spend per visit is one of the metrics to watch and that's meaningful, that's up. There's a lot of resilience in this industry. There's still a lot of desire from the younger generation that want to spend more on their pet to actually rewarding innovation.

Speaker 2

And innovation is driving actually awareness, which Whether it's pain or derm, you see the market still continue to be very robust. Specifically, Chris, for us, it's back to this omnichannel leadership. And as I noted in my comments, 18% of our global business is U. S. Vet Clinic.

Speaker 2

That will grow. We want it to grow. It's going to grow a lot next year with our portfolio changing. But today, I would say that that sensitivity is Back to what I shared with Aaron, it's about the and. So we also see prescriptions growing outside of the clinic as COVID and post COVID, people have gotten used to a lot more of drop shipping and online purchases.

Speaker 2

So we want to win online and offline in the vet in retail overall. So, and I would point to our proof points. OUS Pet grew 16%, OUS Seresto and Advantage grew double digit. E commerce scripts are outpacing most every other channel. Year to date, PERA is meeting our expectations and year to date, U.

Speaker 2

S. OTC is up 10%. These are just proof points to say we're a more resilient business, less sensitive to vet visits and we're building a model that can play in both And again, be a lot more durable going forward. And net net, our market is robust and durable even in these tougher economic times Shown by our results, but also by our competitors.

Speaker 6

Okay, great. And then just the follow-up was, I know you've talked about the expansion of the sales force, but If I look at next year and assuming everything stays on these timelines, you're going to have several very important kind of blockbuster products launching in a short period of time. So will you be in a position with these 70 additional reps you're adding that you can basically manage multiple launches in With each other or do we need to think about the organization prioritizing, for example, like derm over parasiticide, if again, all these get approved and second half of next year, you've got kind of 3 big blockbusters all going out at once. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. So I would note that we've got parvo in front of us Right now, and as supply ramps, we'll focus there. That's one of the reasons that we wanted to move up and take some of the expense that this sales force is preparing them. It does Take time, if you think about it might be 25% more sales force, but it will impact 60%, 70% of all territories. So Getting that stability is key.

Speaker 2

But you're right, focus on which products to detail and profile is very important and we're going to focus on that. And look, Pacing launches, we hope we have these problems. But again, we're going to be very capable. We've been working on this. And This launch muscle has been building way back, zorbium and other products back 18 months ago, and it'll be both not just sales force, The digital and some of the other things that we've talked about.

Speaker 2

And look, we're in a rolling iterative process on these new products and we'll be prepared. As you know, as we've said, upon approval, there's administrative review, there's labeling, there's manufacturing. So there'll be a pacing to that as well. So when we'll be ready And we're going to launch with the resources we need with excellence and to be very, very competitive. So good question and we're up for the challenge.

Speaker 5

And one thing I'd add, Chris, the Boverre launch will be on our farm animal side. That team is independent of the pet side. And as you've seen on the work on the sustainability, This is all coming together nicely with a number of incentives from the Inflation Reduction Act being set up to provide to farmers as well as credits being sold to customers. So we're really excited about how sustainability is progressing. And as I said, that will be independent of the Pet side of the business.

Speaker 6

Thanks so much.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Umer Raffat from Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I'm curious if you think the broad spectrum Trio market is approaching some sort of peak penetration. And I ask because we're seeing some of the trends from Merck's Bravecto, Zoetis hinting at some softness in 4Q, partially because of year over year comps, It does look like, I'm just curious how you're seeing that. The other thing also is Zoetis believes that since a meaningful volume for them is driven by auto ship via retail, there will be very low switch in that category.

Speaker 9

I'm just curious how you're approaching the broad spectrum parasiticide launch into next year.

Speaker 2

Umer, it's a great question. Look, if you In fact, the market continues to grow. Compliance rates are still low, and I think compliance will be key, and it will tie to the online. I mean, Consumers today in every segment want more convenience. They want things delivered to their door and we're going to be as capable as any company there, given Given our capabilities, but I think it comes back, Umer, to probably the whole new versus legacy.

Speaker 2

You see share being taken from legacy. You see the pie getting bigger because of compliance. You see a lot of us spending a lot more time on brand awareness. That's why it's Credelio Quattro, it's differentiation, but our investment is leaning against a Credelio just like the other competitors have done. And so I think it's these dynamics.

Speaker 2

But if You look at the fundamentals, there's always going to be quarter to quarter competitive shift between products and maybe that highlights to some of the things that you're noting. But we are meeting our expectations. We've got an existing portfolio that's very competitive and we believe we've got one of the most differentiated assets coming as we launch Credelio Quattro.

Speaker 9

Thank you. And Jeff, may I just clarify, I know Zoetis is talking a lot about their promotional spend as one of the things they're deploying. How much are you guys planning for 2024? I know you talked about sales force expansion.

Speaker 2

Yes, yes. Thank you for that question. We haven't noted how much and we'll of course put more color to this as we head to Our February earnings call and our guidance. But I do think I didn't finish my thought last time is you've got the fixed sales force that's locked in and done. And then the promotional spend will be material relative to what we see, what we see in differentiation and the potential as we're coming up on that day 1 of launch.

Speaker 2

And that could be a lot more time based to the launch and also relative to what we see in the marketplace. So, We will spend what is necessary to take the share and to get ramp rates. And why I spent time in my comments on the commentary to commercial capabilities to be able to increase faster, 28% faster, The speed to adoption of a product is the 2nd metric, share voice, speed to adoption and then promotion. And that promotion dollar Will be material, but that will be more time based to the launch timing relative to our approvals. Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Nathan Rich from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Speaker 10

Great. Thanks so much for the question and good morning. I guess, maybe a high level one, Jeff, to start. It seems like there's maybe been more emphasis on top line and cash flow generation than on margins today. I guess, is there any change in how you're thinking about The larger longer term margin opportunity for the company.

Speaker 10

And then Todd, how should we think about the magnitude of the margin impact from The inventory management efforts that you talked about as well as the OpEx investments as we think about kind of cadence into the next year. Yes.

Speaker 2

I'll turn it quickly here to Todd and Nate, but no change. I think you start the number one driver to drive EBITDA. And again, we're all incented with our Elanco cash earnings every employee to drive EBITDA growth, not versus some plan, but versus last year. And the number one way to do that is to drive the top line and to drive it with better mix, not just price, but volume And in these new markets. And so that's the emphasis.

Speaker 2

We know we take care of that and do that first. And that's what happened this quarter, and we see it going forward. As I mentioned, that will be the number one contributor to EBITDA growth. Maybe, Todd, I'll turn it to you.

Speaker 5

Sure. Thanks for the question, Nate. We called out 120 basis points of headwinds on gross margin in this quarter from slowing down the plants. At the same time, we expanded our gross margin year over year by 50 basis points. So while we expect it to accelerate from the inventory management Into the kind of 150 basis points to 170 basis points headwinds.

Speaker 5

A reminder, we've got productivity, we've got sales growth, we've got price improvements, all of those things That at the same time help margin. So we're not calling out specifically anything on margin today for 2024, but do want Make sure everyone's capturing the pushes and pulls we have across our cost structure. Similarly, on the Investments, we're certainly going to make investments in our team, in our people, and that creates a headwind. We have about $20,000,000 of synergy annualization coming from the ERP getting behind us that we called out previously. Again, we've captured about $400,000,000 of EBITDA synergies over the last 3 or 4 years since closing the Bayer transaction and we'll have that kind of now done and into the 2024 run rate.

Speaker 5

So Again, a lot of positives going on, but there are headwinds we'll be managing as we move forward.

Speaker 10

Great. And then if I could just ask a quick follow-up on XENRELLIA. I guess, are you in a Kind of position to maybe frame how it's differentiated. I guess the reason I asked is Zoetis launched an Apoquel chewable version in the U. S.

Speaker 10

This quarter. They kind of feel like that mode of administration sort of where the market is moving, I guess. Can you kind of talk about how you kind of see yourselves positioned against that product?

Speaker 2

Yes, Nate. We won't go much further other than to say that we continue to believe it is differentiated And we continue to be excited about double digit growth in the derm market in the U. S. And growth globally. And again, even the submissions that we've made In the international markets, followed by a very robust portfolio that Elen is managing both on the monoclonal side and others.

Speaker 2

So we've got Nice portfolio I'm excited about in Durham that continues to have 1st and best in class, and assets that not only came from Kindred, but additional assets. And again, as I always say, this market derm is going to be all accretive to us And we're excited to launch with this differentiated asset. We'll continue to share more on the differentiation as we get closer to day 1 of launch.

Speaker 6

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Brandon Vazquez from William Blair. Please go ahead.

Speaker 11

Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking the question. First on kind of profitability and EBITDA, you had a nice beat in the quarter, increase the guide for 2023. Why not but you were also talking about in 2024 You're not committing to kind of EBITDA growth. You'll have some tailwinds, stabilizing commercial organization, better ROI on some of these commercial investments, New product launches, maybe talk about why we may not see EBITDA growth, perhaps it's kind of being reinvested into the commercial organization, things like that?

Speaker 5

Sure, Brandon. As we called out with some of the headwinds, we are excited about the delivery in Q3 and what we have going into Q4. We called out constant currency sales growth. Right now, the dollar is still a pretty big headwind to 2023 that flows to EBITDA Just based off actual sales results, the last question regarding slowing down the plants that has an impact on gross margin. At the same time, we are excited about the continued growth.

Speaker 5

The parvovirus expanding capacity will be a nice growth driver from innovation. Exterior, again, another Good quarter on Experior. That $60,000,000 to $70,000,000 annualized run rate we're exiting at is certainly positive $224,000,000 at Higher gross margin than the Optiflex it replaces. So again, a lot of really good things happening. We're just Continuing to watch business and we'll give a full update in February on our Q4 earnings call.

Speaker 11

Okay. Maybe as a quick follow-up, slightly different, but probably plays into the EBITDA line as well. This year, you're probably taking mid single digit price increases. How does that kind of trend into 2024? Inflation kind of comes down a little bit.

Speaker 11

Does that hinder your ability to take some price? Or does the new product launches really help offset that anyway? So just thoughts on 20 or and what kind of price saving power you guys will have? Thank you.

Speaker 5

Yes, very good question on things. That's certainly been a good driver for us this year at 4% in the quarter. We expect at least 3% year to date. We continue to expect we will have positive price next year From just the overall value of our portfolios to customers. So again, that will be positive and that will be helpful on both the gross margin

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Bilal Prasad from Barclays. Please go ahead.

Speaker 12

Hi, good morning, everyone. This is Balaji. A couple of questions from me. Probably going back to fundamentals, Firstly, on retail, one would have thought that the online shift of retail was irreversible. So your decision to focus on brick and mortar stores, What's the advantage for a pet owner to go to a brick and mortar store versus online?

Speaker 12

And maybe just expanding on that, what does it mean for you in terms of incremental investments? And what should we expect from this? Secondly, on the macro side, I think that's one of the questions we get the most. Can we get some of your initial thoughts around How much pricing price increase can a pet owner absorb as you look to 2024 to form your plans? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thank you, Balaji. Real quick, on the retail side, this is there's just like any marketplace, there's a lot of segments, There's a lot of different needs and there's also loyalty to brands, and loyalty to how they shop and where they shop. So What I would say is, as you look at the marketplace, depending on the country, you do see very commonly 40%, 50% can be non clinic purchases. So I start there and some of that's just access, affordability or just history.

Speaker 2

It's what I've always done and that's very dominant kind of market trend that you see in the pet side. So we're always looking at how we can continue to build that. It isn't just brick and mortar, e comm also is also very important. So Nielsen highlights a lot of the brick and mortar trends, doesn't pick up the e comm trends and e comm is probably outgrowing every other channel. So look, it's an affordable approach from a sales force perspective, but it does take more promotional dollars, more work on the retail side.

Speaker 2

Net net, we don't see a real big difference in the side. Net net, we don't see a real big difference in the full P and L between a vet business and a retail business. We see both of them as growth drivers to our future. We see both of them with pipelines to bring new products and we continue to globalize that as well. And there'll be quarter to quarter variations and share shifts, but as a whole, we see robustness.

Speaker 2

And then your second question, the market's been resilient as you step back. Everyone's put a lot of energy on the vet visits That matters maybe more for diagnostics and others, but for us with our differentiated omni channel approach, we really haven't seen slowdown here. We've seen we're expecting up to 3% price, as Todd said. And what's critical is you keep adding value, you keep driving brand awareness and you have good share of voice and physical availability and you're going to be able to keep growing this. And we see much elasticity and much resilience in price going forward.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Steve Scala from TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

Speaker 13

Hi, this is Chris on for Steve. We had one big picture question. So looking ahead to 2020 What does management view as the most important uncertainty or risk factor? Is it regulatory related to pipeline approvals, Interest rates, macro uncertainty or consumer spending or something else? And then following up on that, given this uncertainty, is there a timeline for providing dated medium term GPN and EBITDA guidance.

Speaker 13

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes, there's many risk factors and I'd come back to just some of the challenges that I mentioned in 2024. It's probably an aggregate of all of those, but you've got competition. There's a lot of Big companies all making moves in a limited number of segments. That's always a factor. Absolutely regulatory, just like human pharma, animal health, When you're in this final regulatory stage, we know that that's always dynamic.

Speaker 2

And then you've got some of the Just macroeconomic headwinds, maybe Todd wants to elaborate from the strong U. S. Dollar to some of the challenges. But at the same time, We continue to say and why we lean into this constant currency revenue growth, our existing innovation will ramp. We've got increased physical availability that's already locked in on our retail side.

Speaker 2

We've got a stronger EU pet retail market And growth in poultry aqua price will continue. And most importantly, our cash project costs are coming down. So Scott, any additional things on interest rates?

Speaker 5

On the interest rates, as we mentioned, we're about 76% fixed now. With that, we've given guidance on interest rate expectations for net interest expense and cash interest for next year. So we feel very good About that relative to where rates are. But overall, I think the stronger dollar is probably the bigger concern If interest rates continue to stay up, just given the flow through to EBITDA, we run a global business. Over 50% of our revenue is Outside the U.

Speaker 5

S, we don't do cash flow hedging. It's just part of the business we're in. So that would be one risk. But at the same time, as Jeff said, So many good things going on and with the big innovation coming, we're excited about what the business will do as we move into 2024 and longer.

Speaker 1

Great. Thanks, Jeff. I'll send it to you to close.

Speaker 2

Yes. So just to close, we have momentum. We've returned to growth, for the rest of this year and going into 2024, this charge of constant currency revenue growth and next year at the same time is our 70th year as a company And over these 7 decades, there's been a couple of constants. 1 is growth, 2 is innovation and 3 is a focus on customers. And that will be probably historical for us as we head into the 70th year.

Speaker 2

New innovation is progressing. We're growing as a company. Our capabilities and our leadership are the best they've been maybe ever. And yes, the markets are volatile, But manageable. And as Todd has highlighted, we have leverage, but as stand up costs come down, EBITDA goes up, net working capital goes up.

Speaker 2

We continue to see in a durable position with over 70% of our debt locked into late 2026 That with a durable industry and the way we've set ourselves up, we also believe that we can pursue through that as well And excited about the opportunity for our company growing going forward. Look forward to seeing you all at JPMorgan and in February as we highlight 2023 and set up 2024. Thank you again for your interest and investment in Elanco.

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