LogicBio Therapeutics Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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November 7, 2023

There are 6 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Wish's Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' prepared remarks, there will be a question and answer session. As a reminder, today's program is being recorded.

Operator

I would now like to turn the conference over to Ralph Fang, Wish's Director of Investor Relations, please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Wish's Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. I'm Raul Feng, Director of Investor Relations. And joining me today are our CEO, Joe Yan and our CFO and CEO, Vivien Liu. Today's prepared remarks have been pre recorded. There is also a slide deck that has been posted to our Investor Relations website, which is available for your reference.

Speaker 1

Once we are finished with Joe and Vivien's remarks, We will hold a live Q and A session. The remarks made today include forward looking statements that are related to, among other things, Our financial expectations, business and restructuring plans, logistics and operational efficiencies, Application and site enhancements, including tools and initiatives to improve customer experience and engagement Expectations regarding merchant relationships and strategic partnerships the impact of our strategic marketing and product initiatives, including ad spending and promotional events and anticipated return on our investments and their ability to drive future growth. Our actual results may differ materially from the results implied by these forward looking statements if certain risks materialize or assumptions prove incorrect. Forward looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, which are described in today's earnings release and our periodic reports filed with the SEC. Any forward looking statements that we make on this call are based on our beliefs and assumptions today, and we disclaim any obligation to update them.

Speaker 1

Also during the call, we will present both GAAP and non GAAP financial numbers and metrics. A reconciliation of non GAAP to GAAP results is included in today's earnings release, which you can find on our Investor Relations website and which is also filed with the SEC. A replay of this call will be posted to our Investor Relations website. With that, I will now turn the

Speaker 2

call over to Wish's CEO, Joe Yan. Thank you, Rob. I would like to thank everyone for joining our Q3 2023 Earnings Call. 1st and foremost, I would like to express our sense at both the devastating attacks on Israel On October 7, 2023, as well as the resulting law, we extend our deepest sympathy to the families of all victims as well as who have been impacted by this tragedy. We have merchants, contractors and business partners throughout the region and our employees have family and friends there too.

Speaker 2

Our entire team is committed to supporting these friends, On this call, I will share with you our Q3 financial updates and discuss the business highlights. Vivien will then provide a deeper dive into financial results, share the Q4 guidance and a comment on our operations. Finally, I will provide additional closing remarks before opening up the call to your questions. Before I discuss our results, I would like to take a moment to speak about other important news that we announced earlier today. The Board decision to initiate a process to explore a range of strategic alternatives for which Underscores our commitment to exploring all avenues to maximize shareholder value.

Speaker 2

We have engaged JPMorgan As our financial advisor to support this process. While the Board conducts this work, we will continue to execute on our strategic plan For growth and value creation, we have not set the definitive timetable for completion of this process. We will not have any further comment on this process today. I want to emphasize that there can be no assurance regarding the results or outcome of this process. We also do not intend to comment further on this process and we'll make further announcements as we deem appropriate and in accordance with law.

Speaker 2

With that said, let's discuss our Q3 results. In the Q3 of 2023, total revenue were $60,000,000 Down 52% year over year, primarily driven by lower S Pen. Note that Q3 revenue We're in line with guidance range of $55,000,000 to $65,000,000 On the bottom line, we reported adjusted EBITDA loss of $54,000,000 compared to adjusted EBITDA loss of $95,000,000 in the same time period last year And a loss of $66,000,000 in Q2 2023. Also, note that the Q3 2023 Adjusted EBITDA result exceeded the higher end of guidance range of a loss of $65,000,000 to $55,000,000 We ended the Q3 with cash, cash equivalents and marketable security of $445,000,000 While we are not able to change the macro and industry trend, we continue to focus on what we can control. Across the entire organization, our team demonstrated resilience and agility throughout the quarter in their approach to navigating increasingly challenging market dynamics characterized by macro and the competitive pressures.

Speaker 2

Our ability to reduce our adjusted EBITDA loss on the both year over year and a sequential basis has been the result of proactive and decisive actions to manage our cost structure and improve our operational efficiencies. Throughout the Q3 and in the last several weeks, we continued to make progress on our 3 foundational pillars. Let me now share the recent business highlights. Our first pillar is improving the customer experience. As part of our efforts to further improve the customer experience and drive basket building, our product team Experimented with the Keep Shopping feature on the homepage of Wish app.

Speaker 2

The feature highlights specific landing pages and the feeds to better showcase categories and products that are of recent interest and makes more product Our goal is to further drive user engagement, convert interest into transactions, Better act on hot leads and recommend complementary items. Additionally, to further assist in our customers' product exploration journey, Our team is working tirelessly on exploring ways to leverage generative AI to create product collections at scale to further drive engagement and the basket building opportunities for our customers. In Q3, We formed a partnership with North American Parcel Pickup and Drop Off Counter Network, PUDO. The partnership enables WeChat customers to click and collect parcels from more than 1200 pudou point counters across the U. S.

Speaker 2

And Canada. The collaboration with Pudot supports our broader goal to improve the shopping experience by providing enhanced level of convenience for our shoppers Through enabling hassle free package retrieval from numerous locations. At the same time, it opens up New avenues for independent retailers to drive increased food traffic and revenue streams generated by package collections. By end of the year, the Wish local network of pickup points are expected to reach 24,000 globally. Turning to our 2nd pillar, which is deepening our merchant relationships.

Speaker 2

As a marketplace platform, We continue to recognize that our merchants play a pivotal role in providing excellent customer experience. We have always had an unwavering focus on strengthening relationships with our global merchants, who have delivered best in class experience To our consumers, as an example, every month we conduct a way of our merchants to better understand their needs and to gauge their overall sentiment towards. Consistent with the last several quarters, the findings of our recent merchant NPS away in Q3 indicated that merchants valued highly the ease of onboarding and selling our global customer traffic and the logistics support. Going forward, we expect to continue to survey our merchants to learn more about how to MakeWish an even better and more user friendly marketplace For the businesses, throughout the Q3, we continued to refine the Wish standards program, which is designed to help Improve the quality of merchants and the product listing on Wish. We continue to see the program have a positive impact on the business, resulting in a reduction in customer refund rate.

Speaker 2

At Wish, we are poised to drive the overall customer experience at the platform level Through measuring and rewarding merchants who perform well in areas that matter most to our customers, such as We fundraise and a policy compliance. To the same end, we recently published our inaugural anti counterfeiting Report. In essence, the report provides insights into the progress we have made over the past 6 months in our efforts to reduce the sale of condensate goods and enforced policies, preventing the lifting of condensate products on our platform. Counterfeiting is a serious problem in our industry. And as a large marketplace, we recognize we have a responsibility To our customers to promote a greater degree of transparency on this important issue and do what we can to identify and remove listing Last week, we announced an agreement with French e commerce SaaS solution provider, Octopia, which is expected to open up a gateway for 100 of Europe based merchants to start selling on the Wish platform.

Speaker 2

As part of the agreement, which is set to go live in the current quarter, which will only allow merchants with merchant rating 4, 5 or above as we continue on our journey to improve the range of listings on our platform. We are excited to develop our partnership with Oktopia, the breadth and depth of merchants that Oktopia is bringing to our platform is differentiated as the merchants offer a broad range of goods Spending consumer electronics, beauty, fashion, home and garden and hobbies. I will now discuss our 3rd pillar of achieving Operational excellence. As a result of our ongoing efforts to reduce friction on our platform, we continue to make good progress In the key operational metrics in Q3, for example, the average time to door in 6 of our major markets Further improved by approximately 5 days when compared to the same period of 2022, our on time delivery rate was about 91%, mostly flat when compared to last quarter. The continued progress in our average time to door in the major markets we serve also favorably impacted refund rates and the customer experience.

Speaker 2

Specifically, our customer refund rates decreased by 9% year over year in the quarter. We also saw a 19% year over year improvement in customer NPS alongside encouraging average transaction value and the buyer conversion rate in Q3. In particular, average transaction value and the buyer conversion increased by 31% and approximately 5%, respectively. In the Q3 of 2023 when compared to the same period last year. As previously announced, The implementation of the workforce reduction was largely completed by the end of Q3.

Speaker 2

Going forward, we expect to realize run rate saving of Approximately $43,000,000 to $46,000,000 on an annualized basis, starting in the current quarter. In addition, we have taken a number of actions to rationalize our cost base and reduce overall operating expenses. Bringing it all together, I'm pleased with the progress we are making on each of our foundational pillars. Now I would like to discuss our strategic focus. 13 years ago, we revolutionized the e commerce space by creating a mobile first, Discovery based, personalized and fun shopping experience.

Speaker 2

13 years into our journey, our vision hasn't changed, which is to unlock e commerce for the underserved by giving users access to a wide selection of affordable goods and providing merchants with access to millions of users globally. What has changed over the years is that we are now on an accelerated path to reinvent Wish with an ever greater sense of urgency. We remain committed to providing A differentiated shopping experience and the competitive prices for our customers. Our key focus is to keep improving the customer experience, which we believe plays a critical role in driving user engagement and growth. Looking ahead, as part of our sustainable growth strategy, First of all, we intend to differentiate through verticals by expanding our product range within the beauty and the health and the consumer electronics categories.

Speaker 2

For the Beauty and Health category, we recognize that there is an increasing consumer demand for health and wellness products that are designed to Most products for consumers. We are encouraged by the growth trajectory in this vertical, and we believe we are positioned to capitalize on the business opportunities there. We expect to further expand the range of products within the beauty and health category on the platform. Within the consumer electronics vertical, refurbished electronics is a fast growing market. 3rd party market research indicates that global refurbished electronics market is estimated to be valued at 48,000,000,000 dollars in 2023 and expected to grow at a 10% from 2023 to 2,030.

Speaker 2

Much of the growth in this market is attributable to increased consumer focus on environmental sustainability, coupled with the rising demand for high quality electronics products at the budget friendly price points in the current environment. In terms of competitiveness, the critical success factors for the preferred market include strategic partnership and local inventory, which some of the peer companies in our industry may not have access to. At Wish, we already have a strong merchant network in the U. S. And the Europe For refurbished electronics supply, moving forward, we intend to capitalize on our merchant base to deliver Value driven refurbished Tier 1 consumer electronics such as cell phones, tablets, laptops, etcetera, as well as small home appliances and home improvement products.

Speaker 2

2nd, building upon vertical differentiation, we are setting out On the next phase of our sustainable growth strategy, which is to reinvent the customer journey with a content and interest product vision. The success of which is really driven by innovation. For example, the discovery based shopping experience for which we are known is designed to inspire our customers, but we want to do much more with it. For starters, we are planning on leveraging AI to create personalized shopping content Simply put, our platform is expected to evolve over time as we look to infuse the customer shopping experience with curated Interest that content. We're in the very early stages of implementing our content strategy at this juncture, and we look forward to sharing our progress with you in the coming months.

Speaker 2

On top of that, our team is focused on increasing our DAU and we'll be looking to Execute on several key initiatives going forward, including investing in our search experience on the platform, Enhancing video and the continued exploring experience to make it easier for buyers to continue exploring products and adding to shopping carts Optimizing the incentives, deals and the coupons available to our users to boost the conversion and introducing new growth channels as well as improving existing unpaid channels like notifications and emails. To sum it all up, I'm energized by the opportunities ahead of us and our ability to draw on our strengths to develop new shopping experience for our customers. With that, let me now turn the call over to our CFO and COO, Vivian Liu, to discuss our financial results in more detail and give you an update on our operations.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Joe. Now I will add more color on Q3 financial performance, provide Q4 financial guidance and discuss operational update. On the user metrics, we had 11,000,000 monthly active users and 9,000,000 last 12 months active buyers In the Q3 of 2023, which represented a decline of 54% and 44%, respectively, year over year. The decline was largely driven by our decision To reduce ad spend over the past several quarters, as we remain focused on achieving target returns To put things in perspective, our ad spend was lower by 60% During Q3, on a year over year basis, the total last 12 months ad spend decreased by more than 30% versus the same period of the prior year. Additionally, we continue to see increased competition In the e commerce industry, as some of our peers focused on driving new user acquisition and retention We believe that such competition further impacted our Total revenue in Q3 was $60,000,000 a decline of 52% year over year.

Speaker 3

This decline was across core marketplace, product booths and logistics, primarily driven by lower order volume associated with the lower monthly active users and the last 12 months active buyers. As a result of lower ad spend, as previously mentioned, Q3 gross profit was $14,000,000 a decline of 59% year over year. Gross margin was 23% versus 27% in Q3 2022. Gross margin performance was mainly driven by the decline in marketplace gross profit Due to lower revenue quarter over quarter, however, gross margin improved by 4%, Thanks to higher commission rates, additional cost savings and higher logistics margin. Total operating expenses were $94,000,000 a reduction of 42% year over year.

Speaker 3

Reduced ad spend, lower customer support services costs and the lower employee headcount accounted for a majority of the reduction in operating expenses. Excluding stock based compensation, Total operating expenses were down by 40% year over year. Our net loss was $80,000,000 compared to a net loss of $124,000,000 In the Q3 of 2022, on a year over year basis, the decrease in gross profit was offset By the decline in operating expenses, resulting in a decrease in net loss in Q3 2023, Our adjusted EBITDA was a loss of $54,000,000 Compared to EBITDA loss of $95,000,000 in Q3 2022, Q3 2023 EBITDA result was above the high end of the guidance range We reported operating cash flow and free cash flow of negative $86,000,000 for Q3 2023 Compared to operating cash flow and free cash flow of negative $100,000,000 in Q3 2022, The year over year improvement in operating cash flow was primarily driven by a decline We ended Q3 with $445,000,000 in cash, cash equivalents and are marketable securities and no long term debt. I would now like to provide guidance for the Q4 of 2023. For Q4, We expect the total revenue to be in the range of $50,000,000 to $60,000,000 And adjusted EBITDA loss to be in the range of $65,000,000 to $55,000,000 Revenues are expected to remain under pressure, primarily driven by intensified customer acquisition From both incumbent and the newer competitors in e commerce, EBITDA It's expected to improve significantly on a year over year basis as the projected decline in revenue Let me now offer a few updates on our operations, particularly on the merchant focused In Q3, we hosted 2 Merchant Summits.

Speaker 3

Our first European Merchant Summit in London and our Global Annual Merchant Summit in Shenzhen, China. Between these two summits, we held a total of 14 sessions with approximately 325 merchants From navigating international markets To optimizing individual user experiences, both Merchant Summits served as a knowledge hub of exchanging innovative ideas For merchants looking to expand their global reach, the feedback on the events we received was exceedingly positive. Building upon the success of the WishMFG and Wish Anniversary merchandising event in the first half of twenty twenty three, We are now turning our attention to capitalize on the holiday season. During the month of November, we will be running our Everyday is Black Friday campaign for the 2nd consecutive year, where we will have merchant funded promotions as well as daily deals and the weekly flash sales for our high touch categories such as health and beauty, women's fashion, electronics and home essentials, Across the 60 plus markets we serve, approximately 1,400,000 great products To get a head start on holiday preparation, last month, we launched a new brand campaign to raise awareness of Wish In essence, The multi channel, multi market gift guide campaign showcased a fantastic suite of merchandise From quirky gadgets and entertaining games to stylish fashion items and the delightful home decor products, all available on the Whiskey platform.

Speaker 3

The ads appeared across digital platforms, streaming services and radio in the key markets we serve And we're also carried across the WeChat app, e mails and the social media platforms. From the logistics operations standpoint, in Q3, we expanded our logistics networks in the APAC region. Specifically, we signed a partnership agreement with the Singapore Post Limited, through which We expect to significantly improve the shipping experiences for our Australian customers. Buyers in that region In addition, we expanded our merchant network in South Korea through a strategic partnership With 1 of South Korea's leading logistics providers, Rinco. The partnership is designed to streamline the process for crewing merchants seeking to ship goods overseas through the Wish platform.

Speaker 3

Logistics has been a critical driver of our merchant and the buyer engagement. Thanks to the hard work of the logistics team. Our logistics operations have seen steady and a material improvement In the past 2 years, nowadays, the majority of the buyers in our top markets Despite the challenging macro environment, we are cautiously optimistic about the upcoming holiday season, And we look forward to bringing a fun, easy and a personalized shopping experiences to our customers. With that, I will now turn over the call to Joe for his closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Lillian. To close, I'll leave you with a few final thoughts. Following the reduction in force announced in early August, We are now a much leaner company and our goal is to become a more efficient and profitable company. I would like to thank our employees for their hard work and dedication. And I also want to thank our customers, merchants and partners for their support.

Speaker 2

While I'm encouraged by the Progress we have made in our strategic priorities, I acknowledge that we still have a lot of work ahead of us. As we look towards the future, we remain focused on executing on the 3 foundational pillars and delivering value to our shareholders. At this time, operator, could you please open the call for Q and A?

Operator

Certainly, one moment for our first question. And our first question comes from the line of Laura Champine from Loop. Your question please.

Speaker 4

Thanks for taking my question. It's really about the reason for the timing for seeking strategic alternatives. And just a clarification, I understand that competition has increased, But is it still increasing sequentially versus what you believe that you saw a quarter ago? Or is this just an expectation

Speaker 2

Thanks, Laura. This is Joe. Thanks for the question. So as we said earlier, we will not be commenting further on the strategic review process. So given this and that, we are here to discuss our financial and operational Performance for the quarter.

Speaker 2

We will appreciate it if you could keep your question focused on our results.

Speaker 4

Okay. But on the competition, could I get an answer on that on is the competition Greater sequentially than it was in the June quarter? Or is it just that the holiday quarter Is always more competitive and you would expect that to continue.

Speaker 2

So we are still facing the intense competition in the e commerce industry as some of the market participants focus on driving new user acquisition and the retention by offering very deep discounts and the incentives. So we may not be able to outspend some of our competitors in terms of the marketing dollar. However, What we can do here is to drive the sustainable growth and focus on acquiring users through the high touch As what we shared in the prepared remarks and also convert users to buyers through the removing friction in the user journey. This is something Actually, we keep focusing on kind of improving the user shopping experience on our app. And lastly, it's about increasing the average transaction value right through the Freight rate shipping and also other basket building initiatives, there's something actually really can help us to drive the basket size building.

Speaker 3

Understood. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from the line of Gugule Arunian from Citigroup, your question please.

Speaker 5

Hey, guys. You have Max Moore on for Yigal. Thanks for taking the question. I guess, maybe bringing the competition aside, what are you seeing in the macro today kind of quarter to date? How is the consumer trending and your cautious cautiously optimistic about the holiday season, so I guess kind of what's driving that optimism?

Speaker 3

This is Vivien Liu. Thank you for the question. So as Joe mentioned, we have been really focused Driving organic growth. And I think the holiday season obviously is helpful and we have launched The Everyday is a Black Friday campaign and that momentum is pretty strong. So that's a Big plus for us for the Q4.

Speaker 3

Besides that, we are also implementing a set of growth initiatives to further Improve the conversion rate, remove frictions for the new users and so on and so forth. So the list goes on. And I think the With that top line growth and also our focus on the cost efficiency, we feel pretty good about Q4 so far. But obviously, we can share a whole lot more. We only have 1 month for Q4 so far and A lot could happen in the 2nd and the 3rd month.

Speaker 3

But so far, the momentum from the growth initiatives are is pretty strong, and we are Pretty we are cautiously optimistic for that reason.

Speaker 5

Okay. Thanks. I guess, is there anything else you can share, I guess, just more broadly like macro trends, maybe not necessarily We're specific, but what you're seeing from the consumers in general?

Speaker 3

Yes. I think from a macro standpoint, obviously, The inflation is still pretty high and the disposal income is still pretty tight for most shoppers. And in this environment, people tend to trade it down on price and seeking more deals and promotions, which has been known for value for price, right? And it's a destination for a lot of value conscious customers, particularly for the holiday shopping. So we expect that momentum continue to be favorable to us.

Speaker 3

So I think that's Probably a tailwind for us for Q4 as well. Yes, I think Probably, if the inflation pressure continue to rise, then it could at a certain point, it could be kind of a headwind for us. But so far, I think, macro level has been helping us.

Speaker 5

Okay, great. Thanks. Very helpful. Thank

Operator

And this does conclude the question and answer session of today's program. I'd like to hand the program back to Wish's CEO, Joe Yang, please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 2

Thanks everyone for joining our earnings conference call and we look forward to talking to you throughout the quarter.

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good day.

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