NASDAQ:RRR Red Rock Resorts Q3 2023 Earnings Report $41.22 +0.14 (+0.34%) Closing price 04/15/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$41.20 -0.02 (-0.06%) As of 04/15/2025 04:44 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Red Rock Resorts EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.60Consensus EPS $0.41Beat/MissBeat by +$0.19One Year Ago EPS$0.84Red Rock Resorts Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$411.61 millionExpected Revenue$410.87 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$740.00 thousandYoY Revenue Growth-0.70%Red Rock Resorts Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2023Date11/7/2023TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateTuesday, November 7, 2023Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsRed Rock Resorts' Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 1, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Red Rock Resorts Q3 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 7, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 14 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, and welcome to Red Rock Resorts Third Quarter 2023 Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. Please note this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Steven Cootey, Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer of Red Rock Resorts. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:23Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today on Red Rock Resorts Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Joining me on the call today are Frank and Lorenzo Fertitta, Scott Krieger and our executive management team. I'd like to remind everyone that our call today will include forward looking statements under the Safe Harbor provisions of the United States Federal Securities Laws. Developments and results may differ from those projected. Speaker 100:00:47During this call, we will also discuss non GAAP financial measures. For definitions and a complete reconciliation of these figures Please refer to the financial tables in our earnings press release, Form 8 ks and investor deck, which were filed this afternoon prior to the call. Also, please note that this call is being recorded. Before we get into any of the details, similar to our financial and operating results in the first half of the year, the 3rd This quarter represented another strong quarter for the company. The quarter represented our 3rd best third quarter in the history of the company in terms of same store net revenue, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA margin only surpassed by the unprecedented 3rd quarters of 2021 2022. Speaker 100:01:28The Team continue to validate our core strategy of reinvesting in our properties to deliver fresh and relevant amenities to our guests while remaining focused on best in class customer service. In executing this strategy, the team delivered another strong quarter across all business lines, This quarter marking the 13th consecutive quarter that the company delivered adjusted EBITDA margins in excess of 45%. And through the 1st 9 months of the year, the company remains on pace to have the best financial year in the history of our company. Now let's take a look at our Q3 results. With respect to our Las Vegas operations, 3rd quarter net revenue was $408,000,000 down 3,600,000 from the prior year's 3rd quarter. Speaker 100:02:20A decrease of 69 basis points year over year. On a consolidated basis, the 3rd quarter net revenue was 411,600,000 down $2,800,000 from the prior year's Q3. Adjusted EBITDA was $175,200,000 down $6,700,000 year over year. Our adjusted EBITDA margin was 42.6% for the quarter, a decrease of 132 basis points year over year. In the quarter, we converted 53% of our adjusted EBITDA to operating free cash flow, generating $91,900,000 or $0.88 per When looking at our year to date cumulative free cash flow, we convert 53% of our adjusted EBITDA to operating Free cash flow generating $290,500,000 or $2.78 per share. Speaker 100:03:07This significant level of free cash flow was reinvested in our long term growth Including our Durango project will return to our stakeholders via debt paydown and dividends. Throughout The quarter remained operational disciplined and focused on our core local guests as we continue to grow our regional and national segments. When comparing our results to last year's Q3, we continue to see upside from strong visitation in our regional, national and VIP segments. This strength coupled with strong spend per visit across the majority of our portfolio allowed us to enjoy near record third quarter revenue and adjusted EBITDA Results across our gaming segments. Turning to the non gaming segments, both hotel and food and beverage continue to grow year over year and deliver near record profitability in the Q3. Speaker 100:03:55Our hotel division experienced its highest third quarter revenue and profit in our company's history, driven by our team success and continue to drive higher occupancy in ADR across our hotel portfolio. Food and beverage experienced near record third Arcading revenue continues to remain strong as this quarter represented the 9th consecutive quarter of double digit year over year growth in this business With regard to our group sales business, we continue to see positive momentum driven by the growth in room nights, ADR and our catering revenue as our pipeline continues to grow Into the rest of this year and into the beginning of 2024. As we begin the Q4, we like what we see so far as our business across Both our gaming and non gaming segments remain stable and consistent to what we've seen throughout this year, though we will continue to face challenging year over year comparisons over the next several quarters. On the expense and labor side, we remain operation disciplined and continue to look for ways to become more efficient while providing best in class customer service to our guests and continue to be the top employer of choice in Las Vegas Valley. Despite a tougher year over year comparable, the company was able to manage its expenses and generate near record financial performance and continue to return capital to our shareholders. Speaker 100:05:18These results demonstrate the resilience of our business model, the sustainability of our operating margin, the ability of our management team to execute on the long term growth strategy and take a balanced approach to returning capital to our shareholders. During the quarter, we remained committed to strategically investing in our core strategy, Which includes expanding our footprint in Las Vegas and offering new amenities to our guests at our existing locations. Over the past several months, we successfully opened Stoney's North 40 Bar, A new poker room and a high limit slot room at our Santa Fe Station property as well as game on sports bar at our Boulder Station property. We are pleased with the early results from all the amenities we've opened up in 2023 and expect to continue to invest in additional amenities, which will include our new high limit slot and table room at our Green Valley Ranch properties opening later this year. Now let's cover a few balance sheet and capital items. Speaker 100:06:12The company's cash and cash equivalents at the end of the 3rd quarter were $122,800,000 and the total principal amount of debt outstanding was $3,300,000,000 resulting in net debt of $3,200,000,000 As of the end of the Q3, the company's net debt to EBITDA and interest coverage ratios was 4.37 times and 4.5 times respectively. As we stated on previous earnings calls, our leverage will continue to upwards as we complete the construction of our Durango project. And upon the completion of Durango, we will expect to delever towards our long term net leverage target of 3 times net leverage. Capital spend in the Q3 was $135,400,000 which includes approximately 119 $4,000,000 in investment capital inclusive of Durango as well as $16,000,000 in maintenance capital. For the full year 2023, we now expect to spend between $70,000,000 $90,000,000 in maintenance capital and a total of $550,000,000 to $600,000,000 in growth capital inclusive of Durango. Speaker 100:07:10Now let's provide an update on our development pipeline. We continue to prepare for the scheduled opening of our Durango Resort, which we have now moved to December 5 In order to ensure a 1st class opening of the resort. As we mentioned before, we are extremely excited about the addition of this resort to the Red Rock family, Which is situated on a 50 acre site ideally located off the 215 Expressway and Durango Drive in the Southwest Las Vegas Valley. The resort is located in the fastest growing area in the Las Vegas Valley with a very favorable demographic profile and no unrestricted gaming competitors within the 5 mile radius. As we look to open Durango, we expect some move in the budget, but we do not expect the budget to be materially different than the $780,000,000 we disclosed in our prior earnings call. Speaker 100:07:54The company still anticipates the return profile for Durango to be consistent with our prior greenfield developments. Turning now to North Fork. As we noted in our last quarter, after favorably resolving all of its other litigation, the tribe has a single remaining case in the California courts. We do not believe the case will interfere with the right or ability of North Fork to conduct gaming on its federal trust land and we continue to work with the tribe to progress our efforts with respect to this project, including working toward the approval of a management agreement, continuing our work on the development and design and having preliminary talks with prospective lending partners. We are making good progress on these fronts and will continue to provide updates on our quarterly earnings calls. Speaker 100:08:36On the real estate front, as noted on our last earnings call, we have made significant progress with respect to the sale of our former Texas Station and Fiesta Rancho Properties. While we cannot disclose the terms, we anticipate the closing of these 2 real estate parcels later this quarter. These potential transactions represent a continued execution of our long term real estate development strategy as we look to reposition and upgrade our real estate portfolio for the next chapter of growth at Station Casinos. Lastly, on November 6, the company's Board of Directors declared a cash dividend of $0.25 per Class A common share Payable on December 29 to Class A shareholders of record as of December 15. With our best in class assets and locations coupled with our development pipeline 7 owned development sites located in the most desirable locations in the Las Vegas Valley. Speaker 100:09:25We have an unparalleled growth story that will allow us to Double the size of the portfolio will capitalize on the very favorable long term demographic trends and high barriers to entry that characterize the Las Vegas locals market. We'd like to recognize and extend our thanks to all of our team members for their hard work. Our success starts with them and they continue to be the primary reason why our guests return time after time. We'd like to thank them for voting us the top casino employer in the Las Vegas Valley for the 3rd consecutive year. We are also very proud to share that Forum selected us The Red Rock selected our Red Rock Casino Resort and Spa as the top overall casino resort hotel in Las Vegas, Which we consider a tremendous recognition of our efforts and those of our team members. Speaker 100:10:08Finally, we would like to thank our guests for their loyal support each of the last 6 decades. Operator, this concludes our prepared remarks today and we are now ready to take questions. Operator00:10:20We will now begin the question and answer session. In the interest of time, please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question today comes from Joe Greff with JPMorgan. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:11:02Good afternoon, everybody. Just on Durango, not that it's a big deal, but the movement to December 5th, can you About why, and it's only a couple of weeks. And then Steve, you mentioned there might be some movement in the budget Of $780,000,000 but it wouldn't be material. Do you define material as being within 5% As a variance to that budget? And then I have a follow-up. Speaker 100:11:30I'll go with the last one first and then I'll turn it to Lorenzo for the Your answer is yes, you're correct in that 5% movement. Speaker 300:11:38Yes, that's accurate. This is Lorenzo, Joe, relative to moving back the date, the reality is as we've you try to predict when a lot of these areas are going to be handed over. And as of right now, when we start to look at the calendar, certain areas that are critical to the opening just were not turned over In the time that we had originally anticipated, which in turn we didn't feel like gave us enough time to properly train our staff and our team members in venue To be able to have the appropriate load in days and then play days, our operations are a little bit different from the Strip in the sense that we're primarily Locals property and we're going to obviously have a lot of repeat customers. This isn't where you're just going to see a new face every day. And for me and Frank, the most important thing is that the level of service on the day that we open is at the highest quality that it can be. Speaker 300:12:36So we think it's obviously the right thing to do to make sure that when the doors open For Speaker 400:12:42a long term investment. Speaker 300:12:43Fully ready and we're going to own This asset for a very long time and the first impression is very important and quite honestly we just have very high standards and we want to make sure that we nail the open. Speaker 200:12:57Fair enough. And then my follow-up question and whoever wants to answer, go ahead. Can you talk about, Just following Boyd's report, any potential on the come operating expense pressures, particularly touching Labor, wages, and if we're sort of looking at revenues Consistent with test seasonality on a same store basis, would you expect operating expenses to move similarly? Speaker 400:13:31Yes. Hi, Joe. This is Scott Krueger. We are really comfortable with our expense Structures right now, we think our expenses are in line. Our teams out at the properties are doing a great job to create efficiency. Speaker 400:13:45When we break down some of the major categories, let's start with labor first. As we've said in past calls, we really think between Our wage, our benefits and our company culture were an employer of choice, and that's evidenced by the strong Outcome we had with our hiring campaign at Durango. So while you have to stay competitive in the market and the market It has to be monitored. We feel like we're in the right spot when it comes to salaries and wages. And we're able to hire Quality talent, we were able to get Durango hired very quickly with top quality candidates. Speaker 400:14:24We don't see that changing materially into the future. When we talk about cost of sales, we're actually down year over year In cost of sales, so the teams have been able to manage cost of sales whether that's through creative menu Pricing or composition or other factors, we've been able to stay pretty consistent there. And as we've talked about in the past, acquisition cost remains rational and stable within the market. There are a couple of things that do weigh us down a bit that are less in our control. One of those is energy. Speaker 400:15:02It still remains high, specifically in electricity. And we believe in keeping our properties Fresh, and we spend quite a good amount of money on repairs and maintenance, making sure we have a first class experience. But those spends are within our control. We think we have spent a good amount of repairs Maintenance, so we think our properties are in top shape and we can control the repairs and maintenance costs Going forward, if we feel the need to ratchet that down a bit. Speaker 500:15:42Thank you. Operator00:15:47The next question comes from Carlo Santarelli with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:15:53Hey, everybody. Good afternoon. Steve, just trying to kind of think from a modeling perspective and thinking about kind of the seasonality in Vegas, Specifically, the Q4 and how generally speaking, historically, 1Q and 4Q were your best quarters. So You're putting that kind of within the framework and then thinking about how we should contemplate the impact That Durango will have over the 26 days, any call outs for pre opening type of expenses or things like that that We'll be excluded from EBITDA and anything else you could share on that front? Speaker 100:16:31I think on the pre open, Carlo, as we've been ramping up the project over the past year, you've been gradually seeing an increase in those expenses and they just happen to be in the write offs and other line item Below the line. And so we do see that ramping up as we can go right up to the opening of Durango when we start to spend those expenses slipped to operational. Speaker 600:16:55Okay, got it. And then just in terms of as you look out To next year, obviously, you guys talked a little bit about the cost headwinds that are present in the market. But from a Demand standpoint, from a Health of Las Vegas standpoint, is there optimism that you could see top line flattish To slight growth in 2024 on a same store basis? Speaker 400:17:24Yes, this is Scott. Yes, for sure. It's our thesis and we believe in Las Vegas. There's no one more bullish than us about the Las Vegas market. We're bringing on new product. Speaker 400:17:37We're entering markets that are under penetrated. We're adding high limit rooms across our brand that have met with Strong success already at Red Rock. So we're optimistic about going into 2024. And I think the population migration Into Nevada remains totally intact. I mean, that's kind of our long term thesis is net inflow of growing population here. Speaker 400:18:05And the fact is the people who are moving here have higher annual income than they've ever had in the past. So we remain bullish on the Las Vegas story. Speaker 100:18:14And it's not just people, Carlos, it's businesses. So not only is the people that are moving here to Frank's point getting wealthier, But the economy is getting more diverse, which all bodes well for our business. Speaker 600:18:27Great. Thank you all very much. Operator00:18:33The next question comes from Shaun Kelley with Bank of America. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:18:39Hi, good afternoon everyone. Thanks for taking my question. 2 for me. First off, just wanted to you already gave us the answer I believe on the labor and cost environment. So We know the answer, but I kind of wanted the particulars around. Speaker 700:18:52Just any thoughts on the union progress and how that may impact prevailing wages More broadly around the valley, again, it seems like you all are pretty insulated and very comfortable with where you sit, but I'm just kind of curious on your observations more broadly As those discussions sort of kick into high gear here in the next couple of weeks. Speaker 400:19:11Yes, Sean, this is Scott. I'll kind of take it from 2 angles. 1, No one's really sure what the outcome will be on the negotiations. Certainly, it does have a knock on effect To us, we don't mark ourselves to strip wage, but we certainly want to stay competitive in the market. So to the degree, we have to look at those Physicians and adjust, we're prepared to do that. Speaker 400:19:37But the flip side on the positive is Any raises that the culinary workers on the strip receive, keep in mind that those are our customers when they come home at night. So there's a knock on benefit In our business model for higher discretionary income for Las Vegas residents. Speaker 700:19:58A great point. Thank you for pointing that out. And then my other question would just be sort of behavior kind of behind the scenes as you dig into What you saw in Q3, I think what we heard broadly speaking around the casino landscape has been Up in rated play, and I think you called out a couple of segments that were strong for you, down still a little bit as you see some normalization in unrated. Is that A fair characterization, we just sort of decompose your casino revenues, which I think were down roughly 3% year on year if we just look at Casino line, is that still kind of the broad prevailing behavior? Any nuance to that? Speaker 400:20:37Yes, Laura, I You nailed it. We see relative consistency in the trends. We did have some disruption impact at GVR. We have A new slot and a new table games high limit room coming online. So we kind of had to move those customers to Prairie locales within the property while we are bringing on those new products. Speaker 400:21:00So it did have a bit of impact. We think we outperformed the market in the quarter. And as we kind of take A peek into the Q4, we like the trends so far. Speaker 700:21:14Thank you very much. Operator00:21:19The next question comes from Jordan Bender with JMP Securities. Please go ahead. Great. Speaker 500:21:26Thanks for taking my question. Nice acceleration hotel revenue during the quarter. Just kind of looking to the first half of the year, And see trending near pre pandemic levels. I assume it kind of ticked up year over year as well here. But as we look forward, is there anything telling us that Like you can see, we'll grow off of this base or should we expect this to be more rate driven into 2024? Speaker 500:21:51Thank you. Yes. Speaker 100:21:53I mean, like I can take this one. I mean, right now, I think we're right around 86% or 86.2%. It's still below our historical highs, because we're still looking to get our group and sales business back. Speaker 500:22:09Okay. And then just on the follow-up, I know there was quite a bit of weather, fires, winds, hurricanes In the Valley during the quarter was any operations impacted from those weather events? Thank you. Speaker 100:22:22No, no. We operate as normal. Speaker 500:22:25Thank you very much. Operator00:22:30The next question comes from Steve Wieczynski with Stifel. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:22:36Hey, guys. Good afternoon. So Steve, just want to be clear here. I think you said this, but there were no operating expenses Related to Durango that hit the income statement in the Q3, meaning those essentially were all in that write down line. Just trying to make sure that margins here are on a like for like basis and there's nothing we really need to strip out. Speaker 800:22:58And then somewhat unrelated, Steve, just wondering what drove the Corporate expense line down about 10% year over year? Speaker 100:23:05Yes. I think you actually you kind of led me to question. So I think the one expense we recognized that was probably shouldn't have been where it was, was in corporate. So there was some pre open expense that we reclassified from corporate This quarter into the Durango project and that caused the reduction into corporate. But to your point, no other expense Related to the Durango opening has bled into the operations. Speaker 800:23:31Okay, got you. Thanks. And second question, Steve, In your prepared remarks, you talked about group sales. You mentioned those, you were kind of pleased with how those were trending right now heading into next year, but They were pretty high level remarks. Just wondering maybe if you could provide a little bit more detail about those group sales heading into next year? Speaker 400:23:53Yes, this is Scott. Let's take this year and the remainder of this year, if we snap the line And compared to same time last year, room nights are up roughly 20%, revenues are up nearly 40%, Catering is up over 50%. In the quarter, you see similar performance. One thing to note, so that's super strong. We're really happy with the results across the board as it relates to hotel and hotel sales And catering. Speaker 400:24:26One note, as you go into 2024 and compare year over year, we're up against tough comp because We had latent bookings that were booked during the COVID period that burned off in the 1st part of the year. So While we like the pace of where we're going, when you start to look at next year on a year over year comp basis, it's going to be a pretty high comp. Speaker 800:24:53Got you. Thanks, Scott. Appreciate it. Operator00:24:59The next question comes from Barry Jones with Truist Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:25:05Hey, guys. Appreciate the positive commentary for Q4, just curious how trends are looking specifically for F1 and maybe for Super Bowl into Q4 Q1 as well. Thanks. Speaker 300:25:19So this is Lorenzo. I mean, we're not quite as tied to F1 as some of the properties on the Strip, so they can probably give a lot better color. Just We're seeing in the marketplace looking at room rates and whatnot, it seems as though that there has been some steam come out of the People's expectations for maybe what they thought that event would be maybe a year ago. With that said, we do think it's still going to be A great weekend and a positive event, at least for us. I mean, we're not leading the charge there from an F-one standpoint, but we are getting Benefit of all the people coming into town and whatnot, but rumorings certainly have come down from where people's expectations were Even as recent as maybe 3 or 4. Speaker 400:26:04And I think the Super Bowl, we would expect to have very strong demand. Yes. Speaker 300:26:09Yes. We're super bullish on the Super Bowl. We're seeing Very strong bookings there. That should be a pretty an outlier from a weekend to the positive, I think for everybody in town. Speaker 400:26:22Got it. And then just Speaker 800:26:23as a follow-up, you guys have a number of great options, but any updated thoughts on what's next in the development pipeline and I guess Timing specifically for Vegas post Durango? Thanks. Speaker 300:26:37Well, I think as we said before, we're going to want to get Durango open and get it stabilized. We've got a number of development opportunities Waiting for us about 6 opportunities. I would say that from a design standpoint, as far as starting, we're Probably furthest along with either Durango Phase 2 or the Inspirada project. And then after that, Sky Canyon is probably right behind that. We've been Actively working on all those developments, but we just want to get Durango open and stabilize before we make a decision on what's next. Speaker 800:27:13Great. Thanks for answering my questions. Operator00:27:19The next question comes from Dan Politzer with Wells Fargo, please go Speaker 900:27:25ahead. Thanks for taking my questions. I just wanted to follow-up on the Formula 1 topic, I mean, as you think about the there's a lot of disruption as it relates to roads and construction In Las Vegas, is there a scenario where you actually could be a net beneficiary just to the extent that there's less traffic into the Strip and maybe to the peripheral areas Where your casinos are located? Speaker 400:27:49Yes, Dan, it's Scott. I think we would characterize as the 1st year of F1 is a learning experience. None of us really know. We can make assumptions of things. We thought that there would potentially be a benefit, both from locals And also from out of town folks that maybe aren't as interested in all of the energy around Formula 1 and want something It's a little bit more of a relaxed resort experience and may choose us as an option. Speaker 400:28:20So that's yet to be seen. So we'll learn from that, But we think there could be a positive effect. Dan, this Speaker 100:28:28is just another step in the evolution of Vegas, right? It's just another large weekend in the scheme of large weekends, which seem to be now 2 weeks a year. There's going to be a lot of people visiting the town. That means there's going to be a lot of tips and those tipped employees on the strip are generally our customers. So Scott touched on it earlier, but there's kind of a 2 pronged benefit there. Speaker 900:28:49Got it. And then just for my follow-up, I know you guys have A well documented set of opportunities within Las Vegas. But I guess as you think about the company as a whole, are there other Opportunities that you've looked at or would consider outside of Nevada or even outside of the U. S? Speaker 400:29:08Yes. I mean, we're always looking at all opportunities that are out there. But for any opportunity, we really have a high, high Mark, of what it would have to be in terms of the opportunity and the risk reward profile. Speaker 300:29:25No, that's fair. I mean, it would have to be an exceptional opportunity, given the fact that we do have pipeline in Las Vegas. Speaker 900:29:34Understood. Thanks. Operator00:29:39The next question comes from Chad Beynon with Macquarie. Please go ahead. Speaker 1000:29:44Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. Wanted to ask about the Durango EBITDA ramp And also how we should think about margins maybe compared to some of your other bigger resort properties in the market As it pertains to the mix of gaming versus non gaming. Thanks. Speaker 100:30:09Yes. So maybe I'll start, I'm sure Scott will flip in, but I think we've been pretty consistent in terms of the ramp. Yes. When we take a look at this property, there are no real loss leaders here. You have slots, you have tables, you have a little bit over 200 rooms. Speaker 100:30:22We're operating 2 restaurants with We tend to operate very profitably in terms of the oiservart of stake and the rest of the restaurants are leased. So it's 100% profit We think the property would profit right out of the gate. It will reach kind of what we view as kind of stability though. It will never be it will never reach it will keep growing Probably in year 3? Speaker 400:30:43I mean Red Rock is still ramping after opening up in 2006. So we would expect the same thing For Durango moving forward. Speaker 100:30:51And then we think to answer your second question, at stability, we think this will most likely be one of our highest, It's not our highest margin property in the system. Speaker 400:31:01And I think on the early side of it, we just want to make sure that the customer experience It's as good as it can be. So while efficiency is important out of the gates, we want to make sure that the customer experience is the best it can be. And then As we level out, we can slowly bring efficiency into the business as we go forward. Speaker 1000:31:24Perfect. Thank you. And then as it pertains to the cash that you'll be bringing in from Texas Station and Fiesta Rancho, how should we think about the use of that capital? Is that kind of earmarked for 2024 CapEx? Or should we think about that being used potentially for additional dividends or share repurchases? Speaker 1000:31:47Thanks. Speaker 100:31:48I think Louis, well, right now the balance sheet has flexibility to do anything and the first priority is to pay down the revolver. Speaker 1000:31:58Great. Thank you very much guys. Best of luck on the opening. Operator00:32:04The next question comes from Joe Stauff with Susquehanna. Please go ahead. Speaker 1100:32:09Thank you. Scott, you had mentioned the Kind of the second derivative, call it, benefit from a union renegotiation. I wondering, is there any like history you could share with us or possibly frame the size of that consumer group for you guys? And then Second question was maybe in the quarter or current trends, if you see any difference Maybe in customer behavior, say within your 6 larger portfolio or your 6 larger properties? Thank you. Speaker 400:32:47Yes. The first one, I think I'm going to answer you appropriately with the information we have. I think that The size and scale or the quantum of culinary workers is somewhere around 60,000 culinary workers. Now how that Monetizes within the company, we couldn't measure that. That's more anecdotal. Speaker 400:33:07And then I think you had asked in your second Question, just if there's any changes in the 4 or 6 properties from a financial perspective? Speaker 1100:33:16Yes, just in customer behavior and trends. Speaker 400:33:20Yes. Look, I think it's been pretty consistent with what we've said in the past. The higher end of our database Pressures which we've been living with for a while, and part of it is by design within our operating strategy to This is on higher profit customers and bring on amenities that are catered to a higher Profit customer base or higher spend per visit. But I don't think there's anything in the database right now that would give us any cause for alarm or would Say it's off trend from where we've been. Speaker 1100:34:03Thanks. Operator00:34:08The next question comes from John DeCree with CBRE. Please go ahead. Speaker 1200:34:14Hi, everyone. Maybe just one question related to North Fork. We made some comments in the prepared remarks. But with one case Last, would that preclude you from and your partner from going full speed ahead? And if not, Any thoughts on timing or how we should think about getting started or pick up the pace on the North Fork project? Speaker 100:34:39I don't think the court case, as we said in our prepared remarks, has any bearing on timing of when we start or finance this project. Speaker 1200:34:47Okay. So, we should assume getting started construction is kind of a priority at this point? Speaker 100:34:57We're waiting on the management agreement, that's the linchpin. John, so as soon as we get that, we are out raising money and then starting Construction. Yes. Speaker 300:35:05As soon as the management agreement gets approval from NITC. Speaker 1200:35:10Okay. And I guess Any guess as to when that's done is probably a tough one to handicap, but I don't know if you guys have a Speaker 100:35:21Now listen, we feel like we're close. It's tough to handicap, but we did make a couple of changes to those Northrop remarks. So we're making good progress. Speaker 1200:35:29Sounds good. I appreciate it guys. Thanks Operator00:35:41The next question comes from David Katz with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Speaker 1300:35:48Afternoon. Apologies if we're over discussing the F1 issue, but you commented earlier that Room rates have come down a little bit. First, did you is that Specific to your own portfolio or did you intend that that might be more of a broader market comment? And then how instructive is This F1 in terms of, right, you said Super Bowl is going great or looking great, but this one has backed off a little bit. How can that help us in the future figure out which events are good versus great for you? Speaker 300:36:30Look, I think that was more of a broader market commentary and it's as simple as just looking at rates on Expedia or kind of what hotels are being booked for now versus Kind of maybe where rates were published going back up to 6 months to a year ago. So it's all public data. Speaker 400:36:47I think the other one is, Lorenzo, you said it, so I don't want to speak for you, but I think we kind of know that Sports works in the town. Vegas is starting to become a sports town. And whether that's the NFL or hockey Or any other professional sports that are coming down, we're seeing that it's got great success. It's probably a little less complex Then the equation of F1, we haven't seen F1 come into the city or what the impact is. So I imagine our expectations Speaker 300:37:22is that the F1 weekend will still be fantastic. I think it's going to be great for the guys on the strip. I think it's going to be a huge success. It was just a matter of On a relative basis to maybe where expectations and where people were hanging rates in the early days. But that happens. Speaker 300:37:36That's happened before in Las Vegas. It happens Speaker 100:37:39And Scott said, Dave, this is going to be a learning experience for the Super Bowl. You have 55 years of Super Bowl history where it's always good in Vegas and now it happens to be here. Operator00:37:58This concludes our question and answer session. 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There are 14 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon, and welcome to Red Rock Resorts Third Quarter 2023 Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. Please note this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Steven Cootey, Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer of Red Rock Resorts. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:23Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today on Red Rock Resorts Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Joining me on the call today are Frank and Lorenzo Fertitta, Scott Krieger and our executive management team. I'd like to remind everyone that our call today will include forward looking statements under the Safe Harbor provisions of the United States Federal Securities Laws. Developments and results may differ from those projected. Speaker 100:00:47During this call, we will also discuss non GAAP financial measures. For definitions and a complete reconciliation of these figures Please refer to the financial tables in our earnings press release, Form 8 ks and investor deck, which were filed this afternoon prior to the call. Also, please note that this call is being recorded. Before we get into any of the details, similar to our financial and operating results in the first half of the year, the 3rd This quarter represented another strong quarter for the company. The quarter represented our 3rd best third quarter in the history of the company in terms of same store net revenue, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA margin only surpassed by the unprecedented 3rd quarters of 2021 2022. Speaker 100:01:28The Team continue to validate our core strategy of reinvesting in our properties to deliver fresh and relevant amenities to our guests while remaining focused on best in class customer service. In executing this strategy, the team delivered another strong quarter across all business lines, This quarter marking the 13th consecutive quarter that the company delivered adjusted EBITDA margins in excess of 45%. And through the 1st 9 months of the year, the company remains on pace to have the best financial year in the history of our company. Now let's take a look at our Q3 results. With respect to our Las Vegas operations, 3rd quarter net revenue was $408,000,000 down 3,600,000 from the prior year's 3rd quarter. Speaker 100:02:20A decrease of 69 basis points year over year. On a consolidated basis, the 3rd quarter net revenue was 411,600,000 down $2,800,000 from the prior year's Q3. Adjusted EBITDA was $175,200,000 down $6,700,000 year over year. Our adjusted EBITDA margin was 42.6% for the quarter, a decrease of 132 basis points year over year. In the quarter, we converted 53% of our adjusted EBITDA to operating free cash flow, generating $91,900,000 or $0.88 per When looking at our year to date cumulative free cash flow, we convert 53% of our adjusted EBITDA to operating Free cash flow generating $290,500,000 or $2.78 per share. Speaker 100:03:07This significant level of free cash flow was reinvested in our long term growth Including our Durango project will return to our stakeholders via debt paydown and dividends. Throughout The quarter remained operational disciplined and focused on our core local guests as we continue to grow our regional and national segments. When comparing our results to last year's Q3, we continue to see upside from strong visitation in our regional, national and VIP segments. This strength coupled with strong spend per visit across the majority of our portfolio allowed us to enjoy near record third quarter revenue and adjusted EBITDA Results across our gaming segments. Turning to the non gaming segments, both hotel and food and beverage continue to grow year over year and deliver near record profitability in the Q3. Speaker 100:03:55Our hotel division experienced its highest third quarter revenue and profit in our company's history, driven by our team success and continue to drive higher occupancy in ADR across our hotel portfolio. Food and beverage experienced near record third Arcading revenue continues to remain strong as this quarter represented the 9th consecutive quarter of double digit year over year growth in this business With regard to our group sales business, we continue to see positive momentum driven by the growth in room nights, ADR and our catering revenue as our pipeline continues to grow Into the rest of this year and into the beginning of 2024. As we begin the Q4, we like what we see so far as our business across Both our gaming and non gaming segments remain stable and consistent to what we've seen throughout this year, though we will continue to face challenging year over year comparisons over the next several quarters. On the expense and labor side, we remain operation disciplined and continue to look for ways to become more efficient while providing best in class customer service to our guests and continue to be the top employer of choice in Las Vegas Valley. Despite a tougher year over year comparable, the company was able to manage its expenses and generate near record financial performance and continue to return capital to our shareholders. Speaker 100:05:18These results demonstrate the resilience of our business model, the sustainability of our operating margin, the ability of our management team to execute on the long term growth strategy and take a balanced approach to returning capital to our shareholders. During the quarter, we remained committed to strategically investing in our core strategy, Which includes expanding our footprint in Las Vegas and offering new amenities to our guests at our existing locations. Over the past several months, we successfully opened Stoney's North 40 Bar, A new poker room and a high limit slot room at our Santa Fe Station property as well as game on sports bar at our Boulder Station property. We are pleased with the early results from all the amenities we've opened up in 2023 and expect to continue to invest in additional amenities, which will include our new high limit slot and table room at our Green Valley Ranch properties opening later this year. Now let's cover a few balance sheet and capital items. Speaker 100:06:12The company's cash and cash equivalents at the end of the 3rd quarter were $122,800,000 and the total principal amount of debt outstanding was $3,300,000,000 resulting in net debt of $3,200,000,000 As of the end of the Q3, the company's net debt to EBITDA and interest coverage ratios was 4.37 times and 4.5 times respectively. As we stated on previous earnings calls, our leverage will continue to upwards as we complete the construction of our Durango project. And upon the completion of Durango, we will expect to delever towards our long term net leverage target of 3 times net leverage. Capital spend in the Q3 was $135,400,000 which includes approximately 119 $4,000,000 in investment capital inclusive of Durango as well as $16,000,000 in maintenance capital. For the full year 2023, we now expect to spend between $70,000,000 $90,000,000 in maintenance capital and a total of $550,000,000 to $600,000,000 in growth capital inclusive of Durango. Speaker 100:07:10Now let's provide an update on our development pipeline. We continue to prepare for the scheduled opening of our Durango Resort, which we have now moved to December 5 In order to ensure a 1st class opening of the resort. As we mentioned before, we are extremely excited about the addition of this resort to the Red Rock family, Which is situated on a 50 acre site ideally located off the 215 Expressway and Durango Drive in the Southwest Las Vegas Valley. The resort is located in the fastest growing area in the Las Vegas Valley with a very favorable demographic profile and no unrestricted gaming competitors within the 5 mile radius. As we look to open Durango, we expect some move in the budget, but we do not expect the budget to be materially different than the $780,000,000 we disclosed in our prior earnings call. Speaker 100:07:54The company still anticipates the return profile for Durango to be consistent with our prior greenfield developments. Turning now to North Fork. As we noted in our last quarter, after favorably resolving all of its other litigation, the tribe has a single remaining case in the California courts. We do not believe the case will interfere with the right or ability of North Fork to conduct gaming on its federal trust land and we continue to work with the tribe to progress our efforts with respect to this project, including working toward the approval of a management agreement, continuing our work on the development and design and having preliminary talks with prospective lending partners. We are making good progress on these fronts and will continue to provide updates on our quarterly earnings calls. Speaker 100:08:36On the real estate front, as noted on our last earnings call, we have made significant progress with respect to the sale of our former Texas Station and Fiesta Rancho Properties. While we cannot disclose the terms, we anticipate the closing of these 2 real estate parcels later this quarter. These potential transactions represent a continued execution of our long term real estate development strategy as we look to reposition and upgrade our real estate portfolio for the next chapter of growth at Station Casinos. Lastly, on November 6, the company's Board of Directors declared a cash dividend of $0.25 per Class A common share Payable on December 29 to Class A shareholders of record as of December 15. With our best in class assets and locations coupled with our development pipeline 7 owned development sites located in the most desirable locations in the Las Vegas Valley. Speaker 100:09:25We have an unparalleled growth story that will allow us to Double the size of the portfolio will capitalize on the very favorable long term demographic trends and high barriers to entry that characterize the Las Vegas locals market. We'd like to recognize and extend our thanks to all of our team members for their hard work. Our success starts with them and they continue to be the primary reason why our guests return time after time. We'd like to thank them for voting us the top casino employer in the Las Vegas Valley for the 3rd consecutive year. We are also very proud to share that Forum selected us The Red Rock selected our Red Rock Casino Resort and Spa as the top overall casino resort hotel in Las Vegas, Which we consider a tremendous recognition of our efforts and those of our team members. Speaker 100:10:08Finally, we would like to thank our guests for their loyal support each of the last 6 decades. Operator, this concludes our prepared remarks today and we are now ready to take questions. Operator00:10:20We will now begin the question and answer session. In the interest of time, please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question today comes from Joe Greff with JPMorgan. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:11:02Good afternoon, everybody. Just on Durango, not that it's a big deal, but the movement to December 5th, can you About why, and it's only a couple of weeks. And then Steve, you mentioned there might be some movement in the budget Of $780,000,000 but it wouldn't be material. Do you define material as being within 5% As a variance to that budget? And then I have a follow-up. Speaker 100:11:30I'll go with the last one first and then I'll turn it to Lorenzo for the Your answer is yes, you're correct in that 5% movement. Speaker 300:11:38Yes, that's accurate. This is Lorenzo, Joe, relative to moving back the date, the reality is as we've you try to predict when a lot of these areas are going to be handed over. And as of right now, when we start to look at the calendar, certain areas that are critical to the opening just were not turned over In the time that we had originally anticipated, which in turn we didn't feel like gave us enough time to properly train our staff and our team members in venue To be able to have the appropriate load in days and then play days, our operations are a little bit different from the Strip in the sense that we're primarily Locals property and we're going to obviously have a lot of repeat customers. This isn't where you're just going to see a new face every day. And for me and Frank, the most important thing is that the level of service on the day that we open is at the highest quality that it can be. Speaker 300:12:36So we think it's obviously the right thing to do to make sure that when the doors open For Speaker 400:12:42a long term investment. Speaker 300:12:43Fully ready and we're going to own This asset for a very long time and the first impression is very important and quite honestly we just have very high standards and we want to make sure that we nail the open. Speaker 200:12:57Fair enough. And then my follow-up question and whoever wants to answer, go ahead. Can you talk about, Just following Boyd's report, any potential on the come operating expense pressures, particularly touching Labor, wages, and if we're sort of looking at revenues Consistent with test seasonality on a same store basis, would you expect operating expenses to move similarly? Speaker 400:13:31Yes. Hi, Joe. This is Scott Krueger. We are really comfortable with our expense Structures right now, we think our expenses are in line. Our teams out at the properties are doing a great job to create efficiency. Speaker 400:13:45When we break down some of the major categories, let's start with labor first. As we've said in past calls, we really think between Our wage, our benefits and our company culture were an employer of choice, and that's evidenced by the strong Outcome we had with our hiring campaign at Durango. So while you have to stay competitive in the market and the market It has to be monitored. We feel like we're in the right spot when it comes to salaries and wages. And we're able to hire Quality talent, we were able to get Durango hired very quickly with top quality candidates. Speaker 400:14:24We don't see that changing materially into the future. When we talk about cost of sales, we're actually down year over year In cost of sales, so the teams have been able to manage cost of sales whether that's through creative menu Pricing or composition or other factors, we've been able to stay pretty consistent there. And as we've talked about in the past, acquisition cost remains rational and stable within the market. There are a couple of things that do weigh us down a bit that are less in our control. One of those is energy. Speaker 400:15:02It still remains high, specifically in electricity. And we believe in keeping our properties Fresh, and we spend quite a good amount of money on repairs and maintenance, making sure we have a first class experience. But those spends are within our control. We think we have spent a good amount of repairs Maintenance, so we think our properties are in top shape and we can control the repairs and maintenance costs Going forward, if we feel the need to ratchet that down a bit. Speaker 500:15:42Thank you. Operator00:15:47The next question comes from Carlo Santarelli with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:15:53Hey, everybody. Good afternoon. Steve, just trying to kind of think from a modeling perspective and thinking about kind of the seasonality in Vegas, Specifically, the Q4 and how generally speaking, historically, 1Q and 4Q were your best quarters. So You're putting that kind of within the framework and then thinking about how we should contemplate the impact That Durango will have over the 26 days, any call outs for pre opening type of expenses or things like that that We'll be excluded from EBITDA and anything else you could share on that front? Speaker 100:16:31I think on the pre open, Carlo, as we've been ramping up the project over the past year, you've been gradually seeing an increase in those expenses and they just happen to be in the write offs and other line item Below the line. And so we do see that ramping up as we can go right up to the opening of Durango when we start to spend those expenses slipped to operational. Speaker 600:16:55Okay, got it. And then just in terms of as you look out To next year, obviously, you guys talked a little bit about the cost headwinds that are present in the market. But from a Demand standpoint, from a Health of Las Vegas standpoint, is there optimism that you could see top line flattish To slight growth in 2024 on a same store basis? Speaker 400:17:24Yes, this is Scott. Yes, for sure. It's our thesis and we believe in Las Vegas. There's no one more bullish than us about the Las Vegas market. We're bringing on new product. Speaker 400:17:37We're entering markets that are under penetrated. We're adding high limit rooms across our brand that have met with Strong success already at Red Rock. So we're optimistic about going into 2024. And I think the population migration Into Nevada remains totally intact. I mean, that's kind of our long term thesis is net inflow of growing population here. Speaker 400:18:05And the fact is the people who are moving here have higher annual income than they've ever had in the past. So we remain bullish on the Las Vegas story. Speaker 100:18:14And it's not just people, Carlos, it's businesses. So not only is the people that are moving here to Frank's point getting wealthier, But the economy is getting more diverse, which all bodes well for our business. Speaker 600:18:27Great. Thank you all very much. Operator00:18:33The next question comes from Shaun Kelley with Bank of America. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:18:39Hi, good afternoon everyone. Thanks for taking my question. 2 for me. First off, just wanted to you already gave us the answer I believe on the labor and cost environment. So We know the answer, but I kind of wanted the particulars around. Speaker 700:18:52Just any thoughts on the union progress and how that may impact prevailing wages More broadly around the valley, again, it seems like you all are pretty insulated and very comfortable with where you sit, but I'm just kind of curious on your observations more broadly As those discussions sort of kick into high gear here in the next couple of weeks. Speaker 400:19:11Yes, Sean, this is Scott. I'll kind of take it from 2 angles. 1, No one's really sure what the outcome will be on the negotiations. Certainly, it does have a knock on effect To us, we don't mark ourselves to strip wage, but we certainly want to stay competitive in the market. So to the degree, we have to look at those Physicians and adjust, we're prepared to do that. Speaker 400:19:37But the flip side on the positive is Any raises that the culinary workers on the strip receive, keep in mind that those are our customers when they come home at night. So there's a knock on benefit In our business model for higher discretionary income for Las Vegas residents. Speaker 700:19:58A great point. Thank you for pointing that out. And then my other question would just be sort of behavior kind of behind the scenes as you dig into What you saw in Q3, I think what we heard broadly speaking around the casino landscape has been Up in rated play, and I think you called out a couple of segments that were strong for you, down still a little bit as you see some normalization in unrated. Is that A fair characterization, we just sort of decompose your casino revenues, which I think were down roughly 3% year on year if we just look at Casino line, is that still kind of the broad prevailing behavior? Any nuance to that? Speaker 400:20:37Yes, Laura, I You nailed it. We see relative consistency in the trends. We did have some disruption impact at GVR. We have A new slot and a new table games high limit room coming online. So we kind of had to move those customers to Prairie locales within the property while we are bringing on those new products. Speaker 400:21:00So it did have a bit of impact. We think we outperformed the market in the quarter. And as we kind of take A peek into the Q4, we like the trends so far. Speaker 700:21:14Thank you very much. Operator00:21:19The next question comes from Jordan Bender with JMP Securities. Please go ahead. Great. Speaker 500:21:26Thanks for taking my question. Nice acceleration hotel revenue during the quarter. Just kind of looking to the first half of the year, And see trending near pre pandemic levels. I assume it kind of ticked up year over year as well here. But as we look forward, is there anything telling us that Like you can see, we'll grow off of this base or should we expect this to be more rate driven into 2024? Speaker 500:21:51Thank you. Yes. Speaker 100:21:53I mean, like I can take this one. I mean, right now, I think we're right around 86% or 86.2%. It's still below our historical highs, because we're still looking to get our group and sales business back. Speaker 500:22:09Okay. And then just on the follow-up, I know there was quite a bit of weather, fires, winds, hurricanes In the Valley during the quarter was any operations impacted from those weather events? Thank you. Speaker 100:22:22No, no. We operate as normal. Speaker 500:22:25Thank you very much. Operator00:22:30The next question comes from Steve Wieczynski with Stifel. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:22:36Hey, guys. Good afternoon. So Steve, just want to be clear here. I think you said this, but there were no operating expenses Related to Durango that hit the income statement in the Q3, meaning those essentially were all in that write down line. Just trying to make sure that margins here are on a like for like basis and there's nothing we really need to strip out. Speaker 800:22:58And then somewhat unrelated, Steve, just wondering what drove the Corporate expense line down about 10% year over year? Speaker 100:23:05Yes. I think you actually you kind of led me to question. So I think the one expense we recognized that was probably shouldn't have been where it was, was in corporate. So there was some pre open expense that we reclassified from corporate This quarter into the Durango project and that caused the reduction into corporate. But to your point, no other expense Related to the Durango opening has bled into the operations. Speaker 800:23:31Okay, got you. Thanks. And second question, Steve, In your prepared remarks, you talked about group sales. You mentioned those, you were kind of pleased with how those were trending right now heading into next year, but They were pretty high level remarks. Just wondering maybe if you could provide a little bit more detail about those group sales heading into next year? Speaker 400:23:53Yes, this is Scott. Let's take this year and the remainder of this year, if we snap the line And compared to same time last year, room nights are up roughly 20%, revenues are up nearly 40%, Catering is up over 50%. In the quarter, you see similar performance. One thing to note, so that's super strong. We're really happy with the results across the board as it relates to hotel and hotel sales And catering. Speaker 400:24:26One note, as you go into 2024 and compare year over year, we're up against tough comp because We had latent bookings that were booked during the COVID period that burned off in the 1st part of the year. So While we like the pace of where we're going, when you start to look at next year on a year over year comp basis, it's going to be a pretty high comp. Speaker 800:24:53Got you. Thanks, Scott. Appreciate it. Operator00:24:59The next question comes from Barry Jones with Truist Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:25:05Hey, guys. Appreciate the positive commentary for Q4, just curious how trends are looking specifically for F1 and maybe for Super Bowl into Q4 Q1 as well. Thanks. Speaker 300:25:19So this is Lorenzo. I mean, we're not quite as tied to F1 as some of the properties on the Strip, so they can probably give a lot better color. Just We're seeing in the marketplace looking at room rates and whatnot, it seems as though that there has been some steam come out of the People's expectations for maybe what they thought that event would be maybe a year ago. With that said, we do think it's still going to be A great weekend and a positive event, at least for us. I mean, we're not leading the charge there from an F-one standpoint, but we are getting Benefit of all the people coming into town and whatnot, but rumorings certainly have come down from where people's expectations were Even as recent as maybe 3 or 4. Speaker 400:26:04And I think the Super Bowl, we would expect to have very strong demand. Yes. Speaker 300:26:09Yes. We're super bullish on the Super Bowl. We're seeing Very strong bookings there. That should be a pretty an outlier from a weekend to the positive, I think for everybody in town. Speaker 400:26:22Got it. And then just Speaker 800:26:23as a follow-up, you guys have a number of great options, but any updated thoughts on what's next in the development pipeline and I guess Timing specifically for Vegas post Durango? Thanks. Speaker 300:26:37Well, I think as we said before, we're going to want to get Durango open and get it stabilized. We've got a number of development opportunities Waiting for us about 6 opportunities. I would say that from a design standpoint, as far as starting, we're Probably furthest along with either Durango Phase 2 or the Inspirada project. And then after that, Sky Canyon is probably right behind that. We've been Actively working on all those developments, but we just want to get Durango open and stabilize before we make a decision on what's next. Speaker 800:27:13Great. Thanks for answering my questions. Operator00:27:19The next question comes from Dan Politzer with Wells Fargo, please go Speaker 900:27:25ahead. Thanks for taking my questions. I just wanted to follow-up on the Formula 1 topic, I mean, as you think about the there's a lot of disruption as it relates to roads and construction In Las Vegas, is there a scenario where you actually could be a net beneficiary just to the extent that there's less traffic into the Strip and maybe to the peripheral areas Where your casinos are located? Speaker 400:27:49Yes, Dan, it's Scott. I think we would characterize as the 1st year of F1 is a learning experience. None of us really know. We can make assumptions of things. We thought that there would potentially be a benefit, both from locals And also from out of town folks that maybe aren't as interested in all of the energy around Formula 1 and want something It's a little bit more of a relaxed resort experience and may choose us as an option. Speaker 400:28:20So that's yet to be seen. So we'll learn from that, But we think there could be a positive effect. Dan, this Speaker 100:28:28is just another step in the evolution of Vegas, right? It's just another large weekend in the scheme of large weekends, which seem to be now 2 weeks a year. There's going to be a lot of people visiting the town. That means there's going to be a lot of tips and those tipped employees on the strip are generally our customers. So Scott touched on it earlier, but there's kind of a 2 pronged benefit there. Speaker 900:28:49Got it. And then just for my follow-up, I know you guys have A well documented set of opportunities within Las Vegas. But I guess as you think about the company as a whole, are there other Opportunities that you've looked at or would consider outside of Nevada or even outside of the U. S? Speaker 400:29:08Yes. I mean, we're always looking at all opportunities that are out there. But for any opportunity, we really have a high, high Mark, of what it would have to be in terms of the opportunity and the risk reward profile. Speaker 300:29:25No, that's fair. I mean, it would have to be an exceptional opportunity, given the fact that we do have pipeline in Las Vegas. Speaker 900:29:34Understood. Thanks. Operator00:29:39The next question comes from Chad Beynon with Macquarie. Please go ahead. Speaker 1000:29:44Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. Wanted to ask about the Durango EBITDA ramp And also how we should think about margins maybe compared to some of your other bigger resort properties in the market As it pertains to the mix of gaming versus non gaming. Thanks. Speaker 100:30:09Yes. So maybe I'll start, I'm sure Scott will flip in, but I think we've been pretty consistent in terms of the ramp. Yes. When we take a look at this property, there are no real loss leaders here. You have slots, you have tables, you have a little bit over 200 rooms. Speaker 100:30:22We're operating 2 restaurants with We tend to operate very profitably in terms of the oiservart of stake and the rest of the restaurants are leased. So it's 100% profit We think the property would profit right out of the gate. It will reach kind of what we view as kind of stability though. It will never be it will never reach it will keep growing Probably in year 3? Speaker 400:30:43I mean Red Rock is still ramping after opening up in 2006. So we would expect the same thing For Durango moving forward. Speaker 100:30:51And then we think to answer your second question, at stability, we think this will most likely be one of our highest, It's not our highest margin property in the system. Speaker 400:31:01And I think on the early side of it, we just want to make sure that the customer experience It's as good as it can be. So while efficiency is important out of the gates, we want to make sure that the customer experience is the best it can be. And then As we level out, we can slowly bring efficiency into the business as we go forward. Speaker 1000:31:24Perfect. Thank you. And then as it pertains to the cash that you'll be bringing in from Texas Station and Fiesta Rancho, how should we think about the use of that capital? Is that kind of earmarked for 2024 CapEx? Or should we think about that being used potentially for additional dividends or share repurchases? Speaker 1000:31:47Thanks. Speaker 100:31:48I think Louis, well, right now the balance sheet has flexibility to do anything and the first priority is to pay down the revolver. Speaker 1000:31:58Great. Thank you very much guys. Best of luck on the opening. Operator00:32:04The next question comes from Joe Stauff with Susquehanna. Please go ahead. Speaker 1100:32:09Thank you. Scott, you had mentioned the Kind of the second derivative, call it, benefit from a union renegotiation. I wondering, is there any like history you could share with us or possibly frame the size of that consumer group for you guys? And then Second question was maybe in the quarter or current trends, if you see any difference Maybe in customer behavior, say within your 6 larger portfolio or your 6 larger properties? Thank you. Speaker 400:32:47Yes. The first one, I think I'm going to answer you appropriately with the information we have. I think that The size and scale or the quantum of culinary workers is somewhere around 60,000 culinary workers. Now how that Monetizes within the company, we couldn't measure that. That's more anecdotal. Speaker 400:33:07And then I think you had asked in your second Question, just if there's any changes in the 4 or 6 properties from a financial perspective? Speaker 1100:33:16Yes, just in customer behavior and trends. Speaker 400:33:20Yes. Look, I think it's been pretty consistent with what we've said in the past. The higher end of our database Pressures which we've been living with for a while, and part of it is by design within our operating strategy to This is on higher profit customers and bring on amenities that are catered to a higher Profit customer base or higher spend per visit. But I don't think there's anything in the database right now that would give us any cause for alarm or would Say it's off trend from where we've been. Speaker 1100:34:03Thanks. Operator00:34:08The next question comes from John DeCree with CBRE. Please go ahead. Speaker 1200:34:14Hi, everyone. Maybe just one question related to North Fork. We made some comments in the prepared remarks. But with one case Last, would that preclude you from and your partner from going full speed ahead? And if not, Any thoughts on timing or how we should think about getting started or pick up the pace on the North Fork project? Speaker 100:34:39I don't think the court case, as we said in our prepared remarks, has any bearing on timing of when we start or finance this project. Speaker 1200:34:47Okay. So, we should assume getting started construction is kind of a priority at this point? Speaker 100:34:57We're waiting on the management agreement, that's the linchpin. John, so as soon as we get that, we are out raising money and then starting Construction. Yes. Speaker 300:35:05As soon as the management agreement gets approval from NITC. Speaker 1200:35:10Okay. And I guess Any guess as to when that's done is probably a tough one to handicap, but I don't know if you guys have a Speaker 100:35:21Now listen, we feel like we're close. It's tough to handicap, but we did make a couple of changes to those Northrop remarks. So we're making good progress. Speaker 1200:35:29Sounds good. I appreciate it guys. Thanks Operator00:35:41The next question comes from David Katz with Jefferies. Please go ahead. Speaker 1300:35:48Afternoon. Apologies if we're over discussing the F1 issue, but you commented earlier that Room rates have come down a little bit. First, did you is that Specific to your own portfolio or did you intend that that might be more of a broader market comment? And then how instructive is This F1 in terms of, right, you said Super Bowl is going great or looking great, but this one has backed off a little bit. How can that help us in the future figure out which events are good versus great for you? Speaker 300:36:30Look, I think that was more of a broader market commentary and it's as simple as just looking at rates on Expedia or kind of what hotels are being booked for now versus Kind of maybe where rates were published going back up to 6 months to a year ago. So it's all public data. Speaker 400:36:47I think the other one is, Lorenzo, you said it, so I don't want to speak for you, but I think we kind of know that Sports works in the town. Vegas is starting to become a sports town. And whether that's the NFL or hockey Or any other professional sports that are coming down, we're seeing that it's got great success. It's probably a little less complex Then the equation of F1, we haven't seen F1 come into the city or what the impact is. So I imagine our expectations Speaker 300:37:22is that the F1 weekend will still be fantastic. I think it's going to be great for the guys on the strip. I think it's going to be a huge success. It was just a matter of On a relative basis to maybe where expectations and where people were hanging rates in the early days. But that happens. Speaker 300:37:36That's happened before in Las Vegas. It happens Speaker 100:37:39And Scott said, Dave, this is going to be a learning experience for the Super Bowl. You have 55 years of Super Bowl history where it's always good in Vegas and now it happens to be here. Operator00:37:58This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Stephen Cootey for any closing remarks. Speaker 100:38:06Well, thank you everyone for joining the call and we look forward to talking to you about 90 days. Take care. Operator00:38:14Conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.Read moreRemove AdsPowered by