Caesarstone Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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November 8, 2023

There are 7 speakers on the call.

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Caesarstone Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Brad Cray, Investor Relations.

Operator

Thank you. You may begin.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator, and good morning to everyone on the line. I am joined by Yosh Saran, Caesarstone's Chief Executive Officer and Nahum Thros, Caesarstone's Chief Financial Officer. Certain statements in today's conference call and responses to various questions may constitute forward looking statements. We caution you that such statements reflect only the company's current expectations and that actual events or results may differ materially. For more information, please refer to the risk factors Certain non GAAP financial measures, including adjusted net loss income, adjusted net loss income per share, adjusted gross profit, Adjusted EBITDA in constant currency.

Speaker 1

A reconciliation of these non GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures can be found on the company's Q3 2023 earnings release, which is posted on the company's Investor Relations website. Thank you. And I would now like to turn the call over to Yoss. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Brad. Good day, and thank you, everyone, for joining us to discuss our 3rd quarter results. I will discuss our business activity, and Nahum will then cover additional details regarding our financial results before we open the call for questions. I would like to start by expressing that we are saddened by the horrific acts of vicious violence and terror that have occurred in Israel On October 7, we are confident that Israel will not only prevail, but will also exercise justice towards All who are involved in committing these heinous crimes, our thoughts are with our employees, customers and others impacted by these events. We are focused on business continuity and our global operations are running smoothly with no material impact to our strategy, Israeli production and our overall ability to continue serving customers globally.

Speaker 2

The one aspect impacted is the market in Israel, which accounted for about 5% of our revenues in the 3rd quarter. We remain committed to supporting the people of Israel and the rehabilitation of our affected townships, And we have decided to donate 2,000 kitchen surfaces to families in the south of Israel whose homes have been lost or damaged During the war, in addition to other supporting activities. Now we will move to our 3rd quarter results. We generated our 3rd straight quarter of robust cash flow from operations, adding $28,200,000 Our year to date total of just over $53,000,000 We maintained our sharp focus on executing further against our global restructuring actions. Our results improved sequentially as we move through the quarter.

Speaker 2

At the same time, we made significant progress with the implementation of various initiatives Under our strategic plans to better utilize our resources, improve our cost structure, realign our workforce and optimize our production footprint. In regards to production optimization, we are on schedule in transitioning production of lower price point to our strategic network of 3rd party manufacturers. We have now transitioned a significant portion of our production and expect roughly 40% of our products to be sourced by the end of the year. In addition, We are reaping the initial margin benefits from the closure of our Stothia manufacturing facility, which we completed during the Q2 of this year. In line with this progress, we produced significant sequential recovery in our 3rd quarter adjusted gross margin to 19.8%.

Speaker 2

With this operating improvement translating into positive adjusted EBITDA of $1,900,000 Concurrently, we are navigating through complex market dynamics, including the competitive landscape, challenging global economic conditions and softer trends In renovation and remodel activity across our global footprint. We are working through this Challenging environment with an aim to drive higher sales. We are addressing our pricing structure, investing prudently Sales and marketing and elevating our R and D efforts to create an exciting area of innovative collections that are on track to launch Now I would like to take a moment to comment on recent developments in our Australian markets. SafeWork Australia, an Australian government statutory agency, recently made its report about engineered stone publicly available. This report recommends that the Australian government adapt a ban on Engineered Stone.

Speaker 2

The recommendation is pending federal and state government Decisions on next steps. At this time, it is difficult to predict exact outcome of the Australian Government's decision On the matter and whether the ultimate decision will be a total ban, partial ban or other. We are working diligently with our strong Australian team to maintain our market share in this market regardless of the decision. In conclusion, I'm proud of our team and the work that was done this past quarter, both in terms of profitability improvements And restructuring actions, I am confident we are moving in the right direction to transform our business. We now have a much stronger balance sheet that we can leverage to execute our strategy and create value.

Speaker 2

Thank you. And I will now turn the call over to Nahum to walk through the details of our financial performance.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Jos, and good morning, everyone. Looking at our 3rd quarter results. Global revenue in the 3rd quarter was $142,400,000 compared to 180 $700,000 in the Q3 of last year. The decrease of 21.2% was primarily driven by softer global market Conditions, particularly in the North American renovation and remodel channels, mainly as a result of higher interest rate, which has impacted residential spending. In addition, our sales were also impacted by the competitive landscape for our products.

Speaker 3

The impact of softer residential sales activity, which slowed down commencing in the second half of twenty twenty two Has been more pronounced in our results since the Q2 of this year. On a constant currency basis, 3rd quarter revenue was down 20.3%. The 0.9% difference between U. S. Dollar revenues And the constant currency revenues reflect the impact of strong U.

Speaker 3

S. Dollar against our revenues generated In all other markets outside of the U. S, in the U. S, Sales were down 24.8%, mainly tied to softer residential end markets, particularly for 3rd party distributors. This was partially offset by higher year over year sales with big box customers And improved performance in our commercial business.

Speaker 3

In our other large markets, Canada sales were lower by 17.5% on a constant currency basis, experiencing similar market dynamics Australia sales were off by roughly 8.4% on a constant currency basis, reflecting slower market conditions, although to a lesser extent. Looking at our Q3 P and L performance. I will start by noting that we produced a significantly higher sequential gross margin as promised. Our gross margin was 19.1% for the quarter and the adjusted gross margin was 19.8%, Which was similar to our gross margin of 19.7% in the Q1 on lower revenues. Gross margin was lower compared to the 23% in the prior year quarter.

Speaker 3

The year over year decrease in margin mainly reflected the impact of lower revenues, Increased manufacturing unit costs, driven by lower fixed cost absorption, mainly related to lower capacity utilization. These factors were partially offset by lower shipping costs and the benefits of our improved production footprint. Operating expenses in the 3rd quarter were $29,200,000 compared to $38,500,000 in the prior year quarter. Excluding legal settlements, loss contingencies and restructuring expenses, Adjusted operating expenses were 23.7 percent of revenue compared to 20.9% in the prior year quarter. The higher percentage mainly resulted from lower revenues.

Speaker 3

Adjusted EBITDA in the 3rd quarter was $1,900,000 improved sequentially compared to the 2nd quarter, in line with our plan to get adjusted EBITDA back to profitability in the second half of the year. The sequential improvement primarily reflects Strong operating results for the quarter. Turning to our balance sheet. Caesarstone's balance sheet as of September 30, 2023 included cash, cash equivalents And short term bank deposits and short term marketable securities of $79,100,000 With a total debt to financial institutions of $6,900,000 During the Q3, we generated positive cash flow from operations of $28,200,000 mainly driven by our inventory reduction efforts. This compared to cash flow of $3,500,000 in the Q3 of 2020 Our net cash position as of September 30, 2023 was 72 $2,000,000 compared to $49,000,000 as of June 30, 2023 $28,200,000 As of December 31, 2022.

Speaker 3

In regards to the Stothian plant closure, We are still in the process of accepting bids to sublet portions of the non cancelable lease agreement associated with the Dodyan plant, which will allow us to recognize potential case savings above and beyond the anticipated $10,000,000 to $15,000,000 In regards to our outlook, we are reiterating our outlook for the full year of 2023 To generate positive cash flow from operations and to end the year with an improved net cash position. This outlook is based on inventory reductions and other working capital improvements, cost optimization efforts And our expectation for similar adjusted EBITDA in the Q4 compared to the Q3 of 2023. This outlook factors in a significant near term reduction in Israel revenues Due to the war on terror, which as a reminder could have an impact of up to 5% of our revenues. In summary, our restructuring actions are progressing as planned. We have now a much stronger balance sheet, which leaves us well situated to unlock additional value in our business as we move forward.

Speaker 3

With that, we are now ready to open the call for questions.

Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. The first question is from Reuben Garner of The Benchmark Company. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Thank you. First of all, our thoughts and prayers are with the Cesar Sun team and everyone impacted by What happened last month? I guess to start guys, if you don't mind, I was kind of Thinking that maybe there would be not necessarily a step function, but kind of gradual improvement in the margins From the Q3 or second to the third and then third to the 4th, it sounds like the 4th is going to look more like the 3rd Quarter, is that mostly a function of the impact of Israel? Or is there any other Factors that maybe are not leading to showing improvement on a sequential basis?

Speaker 2

So in general hi, Ruben. Thank you. In general, the 5% Almost 5% that we will not generate in the Q4 according at least to the The situation in the Israeli market will be missing in our overall results. There is also seasonality impact for sales. So Q3 usually is higher than Q4.

Speaker 2

So we expect lower revenues. And on the other side, we expect better performance In terms of cost, following our restructuring plan. In addition, we are going to invest higher on marketing, so we'll have higher marketing spend. So all in all, we expect similar EBITDA, but better cost performance And better setup for the future.

Speaker 4

Okay. And so just to be clear, your expectation is based Don, your Israel business is essentially going to 0 in the near term. Is that right?

Speaker 2

It's not 0. It's not 0, but first of all, we don't know yet. We don't know how the world will continue to develop. So we may On a positive side, we may incur some positive result. But as it seems now, the market is quite frozen.

Speaker 2

So we took it as close to 0.

Speaker 5

Understood. Hey, Ruben, it's Nahum. And to add to what you said, so despite the near term reduction in the Israeli revenues, We expect to see the normal seasonality that we used to see in previous years, I mean, before COVID, Before any unusual events, but so despite the reduction in the Israeli revenues, we expect to see the normal seasonality In Q4, this is something that should be taken into consideration.

Speaker 2

Got it.

Speaker 4

And in the prepared remarks, you mentioned up to 40% of your product being manufactured By 3rd party vendors by year end, what would that number look like coming into 2023?

Speaker 5

40% is in terms of our production. In terms of sales, it's a bit less because there is time differences. In terms of sales coming into 2023, it was around 20%. And we see a gradual increase over the previous quarter and we expect to see another increase, gradual increase In Q4 of this year, but again, 40% is production and not sales. Sales will be lower than 4.

Speaker 4

Okay. And you mentioned Pricing, I can't remember the term you used, but it was pricing optimization or pricing initiatives of some kind. And then I know you talked about marketing A couple of times, are your is your product priced too highly in the market to compete in this environment? What Exactly are you leading to there? And then what are there specific geographies where the marketing expense is being Rams, what's the kind of, I guess, dollar spend and what the benefit is expected to be from those investments?

Speaker 2

Yes. So there are a few aspects. So first of all, the marketing expenses mainly aimed at In the U. S. Market, but also to other markets.

Speaker 2

So we are trying to increase our marketing spend in order to elevate Strategic partners, 3rd party strategic partners, so we estimate next year To be at around 50%. So 50% of our production will be produced by our partners. So this will allow us to be more competitive and this will allow us to approach additional channels that we in the past We neglected and are now open to us. And in addition to that, we are investing a lot in innovation, And this will allow us to compete better in across all the field, also in the higher end, in the middle end and in the lower end. So this is in a nutshell.

Speaker 4

And those the channels, Is that big box retail in the U. S? Is that what channels are you alluding to?

Speaker 2

No. So channels Yes. Mainly the commercial channels, when I say, maybe not neglected, but maybe we went out The most of the commercial channel in the States, so we are going to get back to there. But also to reinforce our other channel, which includes the also big box, but also retail, Kitchen and Bath and Stone suppliers that also performed quite bad in the last year.

Speaker 4

Great. Thanks for the detail guys and stay safe. Good luck through the rest of the year.

Speaker 3

Thank you. Thanks.

Operator

The next question is from Stanley Elliott of Stifel. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Hey, everybody. Nice to hear your voice. Thank you for Good question. Can you all talk about how you see working capital as a percent of sales longer term? I mean, you've done a nice job of pulling inventory out.

Speaker 6

Relative to historical levels, it would look like you'd still have some ways to go. And now with the model transforming to more of a kind of a third party import model for a larger part of The revenue base, just curious where we think working capital could end up here for this for the business?

Speaker 5

Hi, Stanley. It's Nahum. Our We improved working capital specifically in terms of the inventory levels that were elevated last year and now Now we're back to a normalized level more or less around 120 inventory days. And we believe, as you said rightfully, There is still room for improvement and we are aiming to be It's an area of around 100 days of inventory. And in general, in terms of Percentage of working capital out of revenues, we expect to be around 25% Working capital out of revenues.

Speaker 6

Perfect. And the comment on the competitive landscape, Is that just market? Did you find you maybe were priced too high in certain SKU categories? And then just kind of any detail around kind of the price versus volumes in the quarter that you might have seen in the U. S.

Speaker 6

Specifically?

Speaker 5

So, Stanley, we believe that the decreasing volume are mainly related to the Soft market conditions, on the back of a higher inflation globally, not only in the U. S, you saw the results in other regions as well. So it's on the back of higher inflation and on the back of higher interest rate, which results in a way in Residential customers postponing certain projects or innovation projects. So this is the major impact that we saw Globally and in the U. S.

Speaker 5

On the other hand, we saw some positive signs as we said in the big box channel. We are starting to see positive signs in the commercial channels as Joss mentioned earlier. So this is on the other end.

Speaker 6

Yes. The Big Box channel actually was interesting comment. I think they've talked about their day sales being down modestly. Was your comment really more of incremental SKUs, so you're doing better in that market? Or maybe it's Just performing better than some of the fabricators, which you mentioned were having a bit more of a struggle?

Speaker 2

No. So, our portion there It's quite small, so we have a lot of potential growth. And it's a matter of focus and offering the right offer To the different consumers, including Big Boxes, not only and also commercial contractors and others. So and as to the markets, just to add to what Nathan said, so a part of the market decline, of Also the competition accelerates under these situations because everybody is fighting for So I think that we on the sale, we suffer from the market situation and also increasing However, we are doing many things that we believe will allow us to perform better than the market in the future.

Speaker 6

Great, guys. That's it for me. Thanks so much. Best of luck.

Speaker 2

Thank you very much. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Yoss Sharon for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you. And thank you all for your attention this morning. We look forward to updating you on our progress next quarter. See you.

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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