TSE:BLX Boralex Q3 2023 Earnings Report C$31.19 -0.22 (-0.70%) As of 04/28/2025 04:00 PM Eastern Earnings HistoryForecast Boralex EPS ResultsActual EPS-C$0.03Consensus EPS -C$0.11Beat/MissBeat by +C$0.08One Year Ago EPSN/ABoralex Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$178.00 millionExpected Revenue$178.10 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$100.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/ABoralex Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2023Date11/9/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateThursday, November 9, 2023Conference Call Time11:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckInterim ReportEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Boralex Q3 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 9, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Boralex Third Quarter of 2023 Financial Results Conference Call. Note that all lines are in a listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session in which financial analysts, Shareholders and investors will be invited to ask their questions. Also note that the call is being recorded. Finally, media representatives are invited to contact Camille Laboncier, Advisor, Public Affairs and External Communications at Boralex. Operator00:00:44Her contact information is provided at the end of the quarterly press release. And I would like to turn the conference over to Stephane Millot, Vice President, Investor Relations for Boralex. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:57Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. So welcome to Boralex Third Quarter Results Conference Call. Joining me today on the call, Patrick Dacoste, our President and Chief Executive Officer Bruno Guelmette, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer and other members of our management and finance team. Before we start with the review, Patrick DeCoste would like to make a special comment this morning. So go ahead, Patrick. Speaker 200:01:25Good morning, everyone. It is with a great sadness that we learned of the passing of Boralex founder, Bernard Le Maire, this morning. On behalf of all Boralex employees and my colleagues of the Executive Committee, we offer our sincere condolences To Mr. Lemaire, Famini and Nordwin. Bernard was a passionate entrepreneur who had the vision to enter the Renewable Energy Sector in 1990. Speaker 200:01:55He went on to become a pioneer In the development of wind power in Quebec and France. Today, we pay tribute to his remarkable legacy for Boralex, To his strong values that remain at the heart of the company business practice and to his admirable contribution to Quebec Entrepreneurial Landscape. Bernard has continually reinvented himself To advance his groundbreaking vision and shape Boralex in his own way, The way that push us to always aim higher and further together. It is an honor for us to be able to carry this legacy forward throughout the company and beyond. Thank you for everything, Bernard. Speaker 100:02:52Thank you, Patrick, and thank you, Bernard. You've been such an inspiration. So We'll get back to the quarter now. So Mr. Decasse will begin with comments about market conditions and the highlights of the Quarter. Speaker 100:03:11Afterwards, Mr. Gillette will carry on with financial highlights, and then we'll be available to answer your questions. As you know, during this call, we will discuss historical as well as forward looking information. When talking about the future, there are a variety of risk factors that have been listed on our different filings with securities regulators, which can materially change our estimated results. These documents are all available for consultation at sedarplus. Speaker 100:03:43Ca. In our webcast presentation document, the disclosed results are presented both on a consolidated basis and on a combined basis. When talking about the results, we generally refer to combined numbers. And when referring to cash flow and balance sheet, we generally refer to consolidated numbers. Please note that the combined is a non GAAP financial measure and does not have standardized meaning under IFRS. Speaker 100:04:11Accordingly, combined may not be comparable to similarly named measures used by other companies. For more details, see the non IFRS and other financial measures section in the MD and A. The press release, the MD and A, the consolidated financial statement and a copy Today's presentation are all posted on the Boralex website at boralex.com under the Investors section. If you wish to receive a copy of these documents, please contact me. Mr. Speaker 100:04:41Dakos will now start with his comments. So please go ahead, Patrick. Speaker 200:04:44Thank you, Stephane. It is a pleasure for me to present our results and achievement for the Q3 of 2023. Despite an hectic environment, this quarter was another quarter showing strong progress towards our growth, Diversification, Optimization and Customer Strategic Directions as we continued to focus on our on the disciplined execution of our plan to reach our 2025 objectives. As we will highlight on this call, we expect our projects in construction and in secured phases to generate high level returns driven by PPA prices that now better reflect The current supply situation and higher financing costs. Going back to the highlights. Speaker 200:05:40In this quarter, we continue to perform well, generating strong financial results. Total combined production increased by 31% in the Q3 compared to 2022. The integration of wind farms we acquired in the U. S, The commissioning of assets and the good performance of comparable wind farms in France more than compensated The impact of particularly unfavorable wind conditions in Canada, thus illustrating the strengths of our Diversification Strategy by Region and Technology. EBITDA for the 3rd quarter was €113,000,000 up €50,000,000 over 2022 or up €22,000,000 after adjusting for a €28,000,000 revenue reversal for certain feed in premium contracts in France accounted for in the Q3 2022. Speaker 200:06:47The contribution from the U. S. Acquisition And the commissioning of assets in France more than offset the pressure on earnings from the lower production of our Canadian wind farms. Our balance sheet is strong with nearly €400,000,000 in cash resources and authorized financing Our teams Continued to make significant progress in our growth strategy with 5 0 9 megawatts of projects Added to the early and mid stages of our pipeline in the quarter, now representing close to 6.4 Gigawatt In capacity, our projects in construction and ready to build are progressing well. This quarter, We completed the financing of Aput Wind Farm in Quebec for roughly 600,000,000 Work is currently underway and the commissioning is planned for the end of 2024. Speaker 200:07:57We also secured a contract for difference for our lime kiln wind farm in Scotland. The level of the strike price reflects the current market conditions and allow us to achieve a very good expected return. We are currently finalizing the financing that should be completed in the beginning of 2024. Finally, our battery projects in Ontario are also progressing well. Budget is in line with our expectations And we are in the final phases of negotiation with our preferred battery supplier. Speaker 200:08:37Commissioning is expected for the second half of 2025. I won't go in all the details of markets conditions, But in general, I would say that in all our core markets, the demand for renewable energy remains high with strong commitments from the government to reduce their carbon footprint, leading to investments in renewable energy sources. Favorable programs are being discussed or put in place, In particular, the ITC Investment Tax Credit in Canada. It is expected that the proposed will be part of the full economic statement to be presented in November. After that, the law We'll have to go through the regular process to get final approval sometime in the first half of twenty twenty four. Speaker 200:09:41The programs in Ontario and in Quebec are particularly strong with very important potentials. As you know, we are well positioned in these two markets. We are particularly positive about the recent announcement by Hydro Quebec to triple the wind capacity by 2,035 and massively invest in transmission grid. I will now rapidly review the main variances in our portfolio of projects and gross pass. The increase in the early stage was mainly due to 2 factors. Speaker 200:10:19First, the addition of 6 new solar projects And 1 storage project in North America as well as 2 solar projects in Europe for an additional 244 Megawatt. Then the transition to the mid stage phase of 1 wind project in North America as well as 4 wind project and 1 solar project in Europe for a total reduction of 142 Megawatts. The change in the mid stage was mainly due to the addition of a new wind project in North America for an additional 2 65 Megawatt, A 400 Megawatt wind project in North America is expected to be replaced with the project under review of approximately 200 Megawatts at another site in the same region. The transition to the advanced In October 2023, the Public Service Commission ESA in New York State decided not to add a price adjustment clause for projects selected under RFP in the recent year. In parallel, NYSERDA announced an expedited RFP process for which the criteria are being defined. Speaker 200:11:55Following this decision, We are evaluating the possibility to resubmit of resubmitting our 200 Megawatt Solar project in New York and has therefore moved them back to the advanced stage. In total, our pipeline now comprise project totaling 5.6 gigawatts of wind, solar and storage projects. In the growth path, the secured stage now representing 4 54 Megawatt, a decrease of 200 megawatts related to the New York project I just mentioned. I won't cover in detail the progress made in our growth and diversification strategic direction as I've already talked about the major highlights. On the customer strategic direction, we see that in all geographies we operate, corporate PPA market are accelerating and Start structuring. Speaker 200:12:58Particularly in France, we continue to have discussion with numerous corporations as the demand for renewable energy contracted at attractive price remain high. This completes my part. I will now let Bruno cover The financial portion in more detail, and we will be back later for the question period. Bruno? Speaker 300:13:20Thank you, Patrick. Good morning, everyone. I will start with a review of the progress made in light of our 2025 corporate objectives. As mentioned earlier by Patrick, our balance sheet remains solid with nearly $400,000,000 available in cash and other rates financing, 25% higher than in the previous quarter. We continue to make good progress on the EBITDA and AFFO. Speaker 300:13:49The reinvestment ratio is in line with our target at 59%. About our CSR strategy, We continued our efforts on the environment, social and government fronts and as presented on Slide 16. For more detailed information, including data on CO2 emissions and work done in relation to climate change and the TCFD initiative, I invite you to read our 3rd CSR report, which was published in February. I will now cover the financial results for the Q3 starting with production. Overall, total wind production for the quarter combining Canada, U. Speaker 300:14:35S. And France was 38% higher than last year, but 9% lower than anticipated due to highly unfavorable wind conditions in Canada. Total production for the hydro sector was 23% higher than last year and 15% higher than anticipated. Very favorable weather conditions in the U. S. Speaker 300:15:03More than offset the unfavorable conditions in Canada. Finally, production from solar assets was 2% higher than the same quarter last year, but 15% lower than anticipated. In summary, total production for the quarter was 31% higher than last year and 7% lower than anticipated. 3rd quarter combined revenues increased by 67% compared to last year, mostly due to the integration of our acquisition in the U. S, the commissioning of assets and the better wind conditions in France. Speaker 300:15:51Combined EBITDA increased by €50,000,000 in the 3rd quarter and the operating income was up 54,000,000 As mentioned by Patrick, the Q3 of 2022 included a $28,000,000 revenue reversal for certain feed in premium contracts in France. The FFO for the Q3 was €21,000,000 compared to $1,000,000 in the same quarter last year. Our financial position is solid with our net debt to total market Capital ratio of 45%. In conclusion, a good third quarter As we continue the disciplined execution of our strategic plan, we made Good progress along our 4 strategic orientations. We continue to grow and diversify by adding more than 500 Megawatts of wind and solar projects to our pipeline, which reached close to 6.5 gigawatt of capacity. Speaker 300:17:00The market environment continued to be favorable to development activities with several requests for proposals ongoing in our markets. EBITDA and operating income increased compared to the Q3 of 2022. Thank you for your attention. We are now ready to take your questions. Operator00:17:23Thank We'll now take our first question. This is from the line of Nick Boychuck from Cormark Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:17:51Thanks. Bruno, just going back to the 2025 strategic goals you mentioned, it sounds like the organic growth opportunities in your pipeline are robust and abundant. You're getting attractive returns on capital. How comfortable are you guys with reaching that medium term goal of 4.4 gigawatts of operating capacity by year end 2025? Speaker 300:18:09Thank you, Nick. While we're confident to reach our targets, not at any cost, But certainly, we have different opportunities to continue to optimize both our execution of our projects, A combination of M and A, we believe that the market offers So more and more opportunities at good returns on that front and making sure that we control our costs So for now, we're more than ever focused on the disciplined execution of the plan, the strategic plan for 2025. Speaker 400:18:56Okay. Thank you. And as it relates to the capital that you have on hand right now, the $400,000,000 Is that sufficient to fund the organic near term growth? And if you do have to continue to use the debt markets, how deep And constructive are those parties right now? And how flexible are the terms that they're giving? Speaker 400:19:16Are you comfortable that you'll be able to get Decently priced capital to fund that entire growth path? Speaker 300:19:23Yes. We're confident our balance sheet as I mentioned, our balance sheet is Strong. We continue to work on different initiatives to optimize our financing, including increasing our credit facilities, Discussing partnerships, we don't see a need to issue equity in the near term or in 2024. And we as mentioned on our credit front, We're not highly leveraged, so we have room to increase on that front, Continue to generate good cash flows, and we'll look at That sell down of assets if and when it makes sense as we've done in the past. Speaker 400:20:18Okay. Excellent. Thank you, gentlemen. Speaker 300:20:21Thank you, Nick. Operator00:20:23Thank you. We'll now take our next question. And this is from the line of Speaker 500:20:35Hi. Good morning, everybody. Hello. Hi. Sorry for your loss. Speaker 500:20:43Question on New York, a long question here. You've got 7 40 megawatts, I believe, that you're looking To rebid, can you give us more color on when the opportunity to rebid comes? And maybe some color on how much the cost will be up Relative to the first time you bid these projects? And with that, any Thoughts on whether or not you can be as competitive with the same sites as you were last time around? Sorry, I know that's a long question. Speaker 200:21:17Thank you. I will try to make a clear answer, Rupert. First point is NYSERDA has now issued a RFI request for information. So they ask us And the industry, what is our view to make the RFP the most efficient in order to deliver The project and be able to respect finally the 70% target in 2,030 that has been reconfirmed by the Governor O'Cull. So that's the first point. Speaker 200:21:59And so this is underway. We have already replied our position last week. And so we expect That there would be the RFP really issued in December and then to get An awarding date in the first half, I would say, of 2024, I don't know exactly. It depends many times The response of NYSERDA is not always the same. So I think that First half of twenty twenty four is something reasonable. Speaker 200:22:39So that's for the when? For how much The cost the price that we would be higher, I will My view is, generally speaking, what we see in markets In Quebec, in France, in the UK, it's roughly 40%, 45% higher. I'm not saying that that's what where we will bid. My understanding is that when you compare to the awarded offshore project in New York, they have been awarded with an average price of 140 US3 dollars per megawatt hour. So definitely solar would be Really more competitive for the New York taxpayer and then there is but there is a room of improvement from The price would bid in 2019 2021. Speaker 200:23:36So that's where we are. The second point is, I don't know exactly what will be the rules of the tender and how they will There will be price points and how much there will be non price points to make a difference between projects which are Where the land is already secured, where the connection is already secured with a delay and where Local communities consultation is already advanced or the projects sometimes are already environmentally fully permitted. So obviously, we think that if they want to achieve their goal in 2,030, They need to have many non price points to be sure that the project which are advanced will be selected. So I think I hope that answer your long question by a long answer. Speaker 500:24:42Yes. Maybe one quick follow-up to that. Assuming that you do get an award in the first half of 2024. How quickly could you bring those to COD? And could they end up being part of your 4.4 gigawatts by 2025 or maybe they follow soon after? Speaker 200:25:05Yes, that's also a good And essentially, what I'm discussing with my development and purchasing team is, there is interesting signal of Cost of panels going down in the U. S. Also and not only outside of the U. S. Because the U. Speaker 200:25:25S. Is completely different market and potentially also other costs, say, being less under pressure. And so I think it will really depend of an optimization of being quick in term of Purchasing the things and building them or optimizing them a little bit more and waiting a little bit. So I have no answer On this today, but typically we can do something in 18 months, but it could be preferable to do it in, I don't know, 24 to even a little bit more depending of the price pressure at the time of the award. And we will definitely look at the present value and the best return for Boralex at that time. Speaker 500:26:17Great. Thank you. Speaker 100:26:17I can add also Rupert a point on the RFP that, as you know, Patrick was referring to the expedited RFP And we'll wait for the rules, as you mentioned, Patrick, to bid To select the projects we'll bid, but don't forget that there's also a regular RFP program. So there's going to be a 2024 RFP. So those So we are and we will the work we're doing right now and that we'll do in coming weeks months to determine What will be bid in the expedite and what will be bid in the next regular RFP? So just want to mention that. So don't forget that There's a regular program also. Speaker 500:27:06Yes. Thank you. I'll leave it there. Operator00:27:10Thank you. We'll now take our next question. And this is from David Quezada from Raymond James. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:27:23Yes. Thanks, guys. Maybe just Turning to Quebec and the news there. I'm just wondering if you could provide us an update on sort of what your bidding strategy will be for the multiple RFPs there, I know you've got some going already. And maybe on hydro specifically, I noticed that they included the expectation of some hydro. Speaker 600:27:42Wondering if you have any development stage Hydro projects in the province that could fit that. Speaker 200:27:55But generally speaking, if I understand correctly your question, Our bidding strategy from restart beginning of this year, We have increased our expected returns. That's the first point. And then on the project we bid here in Quebec, We have 2 65 Megawatt Project, which is 100% Boralex and another 100 Megawatt Project, which is a fifty-fifty partnership with the local electricity distributor, there is still some exception in Quebec On that, both projects are what is I think very interesting is they have No competition on the grid connection locally because you have seen that there is Almost a little bit more than 3 gigawatt that has been offered on this RFP. But when you check on some nodes, there is Three projects competing for the same grid connection. On some other nodes, there is 2 projects competing. Speaker 200:29:13And specifically on the node where We have developed our project and this is one of the reasons we have done that. There is no competition. So I think this is interesting. And generally speaking, the announcement of Hydro Quebec Last week of on top of what is installed already, what is under construction, meaning the 1.4 Gigawatt, we are we have contracted with Hydro Quebec and the last tender, There is still 6 gigawatts that have to be built before 2,035 in Quebec. So definitely we are working hard to be able to bid on this project. Speaker 200:30:01We're working hard with Communities and we are working hard with First Nations also to be ready to bid on this project. I would say aggressively not meaning was a low return, but aggressively in term of volume of what we would be able to bid. Speaker 600:30:22Excellent. Appreciate that color. Thanks, Patrick. And then maybe just going back to The comments around Pinto M and A and maybe just if you could touch on if there is Any jurisdiction that looks particularly interesting and just thoughts on how valuations have trended and if possible what kind of size you might look at? Speaker 200:30:47Yes. The first point on M and A is There is no rush. We need to see where the M and A market is going because The cost of capital is as such public companies as private fund and many investors also Could be stressed in the future. So we will look only In the jurisdiction where we are operating assets, we will as much as possible look for something where there is Assets in operation and developments, the value of developments has gone down, but I think It's too low today probably and so there is opportunity considering the global environment and the need of renewable energy to create value for us to acquire also a development team and project. And then but again, it will not be done at any cost as Bruno mentioned. Speaker 600:31:59Excellent. Thanks for that, Patrick. I'll turn it over. Speaker 200:32:02Thank you. Operator00:32:04Thank you. We'll now take the next question. And this is from Mark Jarvi from CIBC. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:32:15Thanks. Well, condolences to the La Mer family and the broader Boralex team on the passing of Bernard. So just coming back to the potential expedited RFP in New York, do you have any sense of whether or not it's just the 200 megawatts, which were secured a couple of years ago or Any of the other projects from the subsequent RFPs that didn't get the adjustment would be potentially eligible in the upcoming RFP? Speaker 200:32:44I think it's very difficult to say today. We have worked hardly to Answer and give our comments. I cannot tell you before having the rules of the RFP All many projects will be we will be able to bid us and others. So we will have More clear view of that, probably mid December if they issue the expedited RFP at that time. Where I am confident is that all our projects are Well advanced in term of development, so able to be delivered in the timeframe that is needed for To meet the 2,030 target of the governor. Speaker 200:33:38So I think we can leverage on that hopefully. Speaker 700:33:42Okay. And Bruno, you mentioned partnerships. Is that exclusively for larger M and A? Is that something that Could be done on other sort of larger greenfield aspirations, whether it's bigger RFPs and opportunities in New York or Quebec? Just maybe sort of how you view partnerships as an option right now? Speaker 300:34:06Yes. In general, We develop by ourselves. So on greenfield, it's mostly us. So partnerships are more either with on larger M and A, which could include, as Patrick mentioned, Operating and pipeline, but also potentially in the future as well on partnerships on existing operating assets as we've done in France. So to either on new assets or existing assets, But not at this time considered on pure greenfield. Speaker 700:34:48Okay. And then I think there was a comment earlier on about the strength of the corporate PPA market. Just comment right now how you see things, particularly in France, where I think you've done both options of bidding into the RFP with EDF and then corporate market. Where are you seeing clearing prices between those two options, duration of contracts in the corporate market and ultimately returns from those Two options to go corporate versus the utility backed PPA? Speaker 200:35:17Generally speaking, My view is that the corporate PPA market for long term contract And new assets is a little bit higher than utility backed PPA or CFD contract with EDF, which is normal because the counterparty is not at the end of French state. It's another counterparty, but it's so it's interesting and it's an opportunity for us. On the shorter term market for existing asset, there is also lots of demand. We have We are in negotiation to well advanced negotiation to renew 2 contract in France with Significantly higher price within existing customers and there is a reason for that. It's because the forward price for the next 3 years are higher and the customer does want to secure his procurement In renewable energy and guarantee of origin, so I think it's a very good option. Speaker 200:36:29And on top of all this, Like in North America, specifically it's in Quebec and Ontario, there is a lot of demand for New project, typically battery production facility, PV panel, green steel and hydrogen. And so there is also a market which is moving on this side a lot, so which is I think also a great opportunity for us, not only in France. Speaker 700:37:05And then if you just think about as you look ahead in a couple of quarters, is signing corporate PPAs in France for greenfield development something that you think is Likely or do you think for now, for new greenfield long term contracts, The EDFRFPs are the most likely path forward? Speaker 200:37:26No, we are chasing both and it's I would say it's very likely that we will sign something on corporate PPA and we will continue to bid because there is tender from EDF From the CRE, the Commission Regulation L'Energies, that will come and where we will be bidding. But we're looking to both options all the time. Operator00:37:49Okay. Speaker 700:37:49All right. Thanks for the time. Speaker 300:37:51Maybe, Mark, just an add on to my previous Thanks, sir, on the development and the partnerships because we do have partnerships with, for example, with First Nations So on new assets, so I wanted to clarify, I was talking mostly about as we lead those developments, But we do have partnerships there as well. So I do not want to exclude those types of partnerships, but Local municipalities and First Nations, for examples. Speaker 700:38:25No, I understood that. I was thinking more developers and or financials. But thanks for clarifying. Speaker 300:38:29Thank you. Operator00:38:32Thank you. We'll now take our next question. This is from Sean Steuart from TD Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:38:44Thank you. Good morning. A couple of questions. Wondering if you can give some broader comments around the capital recycling opportunity right now. Borlax has been an astute Seller of assets historically. Speaker 800:39:00Have valuations contracted enough that those types of initiatives are off the table for now? I'm just thinking in terms of the broader funding platform, it sounds like you've got opportunities to add leverage, but Broader comments on capital recycling opportunities for the company. Speaker 300:39:22Hi, Sean. So as I mentioned, this is an opportunity that we continue to monitor. And we believe we have clearly, we have good assets. We've demonstrated In the near past at our there is and we believe there continues to be a discrepancy between Private asset valuation and the evaluation assigned by public markets, which is A different view on timing and risk. So if and when it makes sense, We'll continue to have those types of discussions, but it's not something that we'll do every day. Speaker 300:40:11But when We believe there is a significant value to add a partner in some of our existing assets. It's a possibility and we do continue to believe there is a value creation on that front that's potential. Speaker 800:40:32Okay. Thanks for that detail, Bruno. And a follow-up question on the corporate PPA environment. You gave lots of good detail to previous question. I'm just wondering if your sense, we've seen sort of unconstrained Growth in terms of price terms in both North America and Europe for corporate PPAs for the last several years despite Volatility in Wholesale Power Markets. Speaker 800:40:58Any sense of any deceleration in those price terms at this point? You referenced accelerating growth. I assume that referred to interest in terms of megawatts corporates are looking to sign, but Any further comments on price terms and sustainability of upward momentum there? Speaker 200:41:20Yes. My view and of what we see presently is The demand is really there. The many corporate in terms of price, If you look on long term and you build new assets, it's interesting to see that The price are a little bit higher than utility prices contract, But it's secured the purchaser, the energy buyer For the long term and many big purchaser who wants to secure them On green electricity are more looking not at any price, obviously, there is competition, but to secure their energy. And in Europe specifically to also secure the guarantee of origin of the electricity. So I think that's great. Speaker 200:42:26There is some big Announcement, there was Northvolt here in Quebec. There is other announcement in France. I understand that there would be a big announcement tomorrow With hydrogen production in Quebec that will be feeded with renewable energy, Hydro Quebec, specifically New Renewable and Hydro Quebec balancing contract. This is in the newspaper this morning. And this means more pressure on the corporate PPA and on the utility also to provide Energy in the future. Speaker 200:43:03So I think this it's not cooling down so much presently. Obviously, it's not the price That was last year in France, but the long term price has never gone to crazy price, but Yes. That's where we are, I think. Speaker 800:43:24Thanks for that, Patrick. That's great detail. I'll add my condolences To the team on Mr. Lemaire's passing. Thanks for your Speaker 500:43:32time. Thank you. Operator00:43:35Thank you. There are no further questions at the moment. There are no further questions coming through at the moment, so I will hand back to the speakers. Thank you. Speaker 100:44:04Well, thanks everyone for your attention. And if you have additional questions, please don't hesitate to give me a call 514-two thirteen-ten forty five. I'll make sure we quickly answer your questions. And our next call at 11 am. Have a nice day, everyone. Speaker 100:44:31Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Operator00:44:34Thank you. That does conclude the conference for today. 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There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Boralex Third Quarter of 2023 Financial Results Conference Call. Note that all lines are in a listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session in which financial analysts, Shareholders and investors will be invited to ask their questions. Also note that the call is being recorded. Finally, media representatives are invited to contact Camille Laboncier, Advisor, Public Affairs and External Communications at Boralex. Operator00:00:44Her contact information is provided at the end of the quarterly press release. And I would like to turn the conference over to Stephane Millot, Vice President, Investor Relations for Boralex. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:57Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. So welcome to Boralex Third Quarter Results Conference Call. Joining me today on the call, Patrick Dacoste, our President and Chief Executive Officer Bruno Guelmette, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer and other members of our management and finance team. Before we start with the review, Patrick DeCoste would like to make a special comment this morning. So go ahead, Patrick. Speaker 200:01:25Good morning, everyone. It is with a great sadness that we learned of the passing of Boralex founder, Bernard Le Maire, this morning. On behalf of all Boralex employees and my colleagues of the Executive Committee, we offer our sincere condolences To Mr. Lemaire, Famini and Nordwin. Bernard was a passionate entrepreneur who had the vision to enter the Renewable Energy Sector in 1990. Speaker 200:01:55He went on to become a pioneer In the development of wind power in Quebec and France. Today, we pay tribute to his remarkable legacy for Boralex, To his strong values that remain at the heart of the company business practice and to his admirable contribution to Quebec Entrepreneurial Landscape. Bernard has continually reinvented himself To advance his groundbreaking vision and shape Boralex in his own way, The way that push us to always aim higher and further together. It is an honor for us to be able to carry this legacy forward throughout the company and beyond. Thank you for everything, Bernard. Speaker 100:02:52Thank you, Patrick, and thank you, Bernard. You've been such an inspiration. So We'll get back to the quarter now. So Mr. Decasse will begin with comments about market conditions and the highlights of the Quarter. Speaker 100:03:11Afterwards, Mr. Gillette will carry on with financial highlights, and then we'll be available to answer your questions. As you know, during this call, we will discuss historical as well as forward looking information. When talking about the future, there are a variety of risk factors that have been listed on our different filings with securities regulators, which can materially change our estimated results. These documents are all available for consultation at sedarplus. Speaker 100:03:43Ca. In our webcast presentation document, the disclosed results are presented both on a consolidated basis and on a combined basis. When talking about the results, we generally refer to combined numbers. And when referring to cash flow and balance sheet, we generally refer to consolidated numbers. Please note that the combined is a non GAAP financial measure and does not have standardized meaning under IFRS. Speaker 100:04:11Accordingly, combined may not be comparable to similarly named measures used by other companies. For more details, see the non IFRS and other financial measures section in the MD and A. The press release, the MD and A, the consolidated financial statement and a copy Today's presentation are all posted on the Boralex website at boralex.com under the Investors section. If you wish to receive a copy of these documents, please contact me. Mr. Speaker 100:04:41Dakos will now start with his comments. So please go ahead, Patrick. Speaker 200:04:44Thank you, Stephane. It is a pleasure for me to present our results and achievement for the Q3 of 2023. Despite an hectic environment, this quarter was another quarter showing strong progress towards our growth, Diversification, Optimization and Customer Strategic Directions as we continued to focus on our on the disciplined execution of our plan to reach our 2025 objectives. As we will highlight on this call, we expect our projects in construction and in secured phases to generate high level returns driven by PPA prices that now better reflect The current supply situation and higher financing costs. Going back to the highlights. Speaker 200:05:40In this quarter, we continue to perform well, generating strong financial results. Total combined production increased by 31% in the Q3 compared to 2022. The integration of wind farms we acquired in the U. S, The commissioning of assets and the good performance of comparable wind farms in France more than compensated The impact of particularly unfavorable wind conditions in Canada, thus illustrating the strengths of our Diversification Strategy by Region and Technology. EBITDA for the 3rd quarter was €113,000,000 up €50,000,000 over 2022 or up €22,000,000 after adjusting for a €28,000,000 revenue reversal for certain feed in premium contracts in France accounted for in the Q3 2022. Speaker 200:06:47The contribution from the U. S. Acquisition And the commissioning of assets in France more than offset the pressure on earnings from the lower production of our Canadian wind farms. Our balance sheet is strong with nearly €400,000,000 in cash resources and authorized financing Our teams Continued to make significant progress in our growth strategy with 5 0 9 megawatts of projects Added to the early and mid stages of our pipeline in the quarter, now representing close to 6.4 Gigawatt In capacity, our projects in construction and ready to build are progressing well. This quarter, We completed the financing of Aput Wind Farm in Quebec for roughly 600,000,000 Work is currently underway and the commissioning is planned for the end of 2024. Speaker 200:07:57We also secured a contract for difference for our lime kiln wind farm in Scotland. The level of the strike price reflects the current market conditions and allow us to achieve a very good expected return. We are currently finalizing the financing that should be completed in the beginning of 2024. Finally, our battery projects in Ontario are also progressing well. Budget is in line with our expectations And we are in the final phases of negotiation with our preferred battery supplier. Speaker 200:08:37Commissioning is expected for the second half of 2025. I won't go in all the details of markets conditions, But in general, I would say that in all our core markets, the demand for renewable energy remains high with strong commitments from the government to reduce their carbon footprint, leading to investments in renewable energy sources. Favorable programs are being discussed or put in place, In particular, the ITC Investment Tax Credit in Canada. It is expected that the proposed will be part of the full economic statement to be presented in November. After that, the law We'll have to go through the regular process to get final approval sometime in the first half of twenty twenty four. Speaker 200:09:41The programs in Ontario and in Quebec are particularly strong with very important potentials. As you know, we are well positioned in these two markets. We are particularly positive about the recent announcement by Hydro Quebec to triple the wind capacity by 2,035 and massively invest in transmission grid. I will now rapidly review the main variances in our portfolio of projects and gross pass. The increase in the early stage was mainly due to 2 factors. Speaker 200:10:19First, the addition of 6 new solar projects And 1 storage project in North America as well as 2 solar projects in Europe for an additional 244 Megawatt. Then the transition to the mid stage phase of 1 wind project in North America as well as 4 wind project and 1 solar project in Europe for a total reduction of 142 Megawatts. The change in the mid stage was mainly due to the addition of a new wind project in North America for an additional 2 65 Megawatt, A 400 Megawatt wind project in North America is expected to be replaced with the project under review of approximately 200 Megawatts at another site in the same region. The transition to the advanced In October 2023, the Public Service Commission ESA in New York State decided not to add a price adjustment clause for projects selected under RFP in the recent year. In parallel, NYSERDA announced an expedited RFP process for which the criteria are being defined. Speaker 200:11:55Following this decision, We are evaluating the possibility to resubmit of resubmitting our 200 Megawatt Solar project in New York and has therefore moved them back to the advanced stage. In total, our pipeline now comprise project totaling 5.6 gigawatts of wind, solar and storage projects. In the growth path, the secured stage now representing 4 54 Megawatt, a decrease of 200 megawatts related to the New York project I just mentioned. I won't cover in detail the progress made in our growth and diversification strategic direction as I've already talked about the major highlights. On the customer strategic direction, we see that in all geographies we operate, corporate PPA market are accelerating and Start structuring. Speaker 200:12:58Particularly in France, we continue to have discussion with numerous corporations as the demand for renewable energy contracted at attractive price remain high. This completes my part. I will now let Bruno cover The financial portion in more detail, and we will be back later for the question period. Bruno? Speaker 300:13:20Thank you, Patrick. Good morning, everyone. I will start with a review of the progress made in light of our 2025 corporate objectives. As mentioned earlier by Patrick, our balance sheet remains solid with nearly $400,000,000 available in cash and other rates financing, 25% higher than in the previous quarter. We continue to make good progress on the EBITDA and AFFO. Speaker 300:13:49The reinvestment ratio is in line with our target at 59%. About our CSR strategy, We continued our efforts on the environment, social and government fronts and as presented on Slide 16. For more detailed information, including data on CO2 emissions and work done in relation to climate change and the TCFD initiative, I invite you to read our 3rd CSR report, which was published in February. I will now cover the financial results for the Q3 starting with production. Overall, total wind production for the quarter combining Canada, U. Speaker 300:14:35S. And France was 38% higher than last year, but 9% lower than anticipated due to highly unfavorable wind conditions in Canada. Total production for the hydro sector was 23% higher than last year and 15% higher than anticipated. Very favorable weather conditions in the U. S. Speaker 300:15:03More than offset the unfavorable conditions in Canada. Finally, production from solar assets was 2% higher than the same quarter last year, but 15% lower than anticipated. In summary, total production for the quarter was 31% higher than last year and 7% lower than anticipated. 3rd quarter combined revenues increased by 67% compared to last year, mostly due to the integration of our acquisition in the U. S, the commissioning of assets and the better wind conditions in France. Speaker 300:15:51Combined EBITDA increased by €50,000,000 in the 3rd quarter and the operating income was up 54,000,000 As mentioned by Patrick, the Q3 of 2022 included a $28,000,000 revenue reversal for certain feed in premium contracts in France. The FFO for the Q3 was €21,000,000 compared to $1,000,000 in the same quarter last year. Our financial position is solid with our net debt to total market Capital ratio of 45%. In conclusion, a good third quarter As we continue the disciplined execution of our strategic plan, we made Good progress along our 4 strategic orientations. We continue to grow and diversify by adding more than 500 Megawatts of wind and solar projects to our pipeline, which reached close to 6.5 gigawatt of capacity. Speaker 300:17:00The market environment continued to be favorable to development activities with several requests for proposals ongoing in our markets. EBITDA and operating income increased compared to the Q3 of 2022. Thank you for your attention. We are now ready to take your questions. Operator00:17:23Thank We'll now take our first question. This is from the line of Nick Boychuck from Cormark Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:17:51Thanks. Bruno, just going back to the 2025 strategic goals you mentioned, it sounds like the organic growth opportunities in your pipeline are robust and abundant. You're getting attractive returns on capital. How comfortable are you guys with reaching that medium term goal of 4.4 gigawatts of operating capacity by year end 2025? Speaker 300:18:09Thank you, Nick. While we're confident to reach our targets, not at any cost, But certainly, we have different opportunities to continue to optimize both our execution of our projects, A combination of M and A, we believe that the market offers So more and more opportunities at good returns on that front and making sure that we control our costs So for now, we're more than ever focused on the disciplined execution of the plan, the strategic plan for 2025. Speaker 400:18:56Okay. Thank you. And as it relates to the capital that you have on hand right now, the $400,000,000 Is that sufficient to fund the organic near term growth? And if you do have to continue to use the debt markets, how deep And constructive are those parties right now? And how flexible are the terms that they're giving? Speaker 400:19:16Are you comfortable that you'll be able to get Decently priced capital to fund that entire growth path? Speaker 300:19:23Yes. We're confident our balance sheet as I mentioned, our balance sheet is Strong. We continue to work on different initiatives to optimize our financing, including increasing our credit facilities, Discussing partnerships, we don't see a need to issue equity in the near term or in 2024. And we as mentioned on our credit front, We're not highly leveraged, so we have room to increase on that front, Continue to generate good cash flows, and we'll look at That sell down of assets if and when it makes sense as we've done in the past. Speaker 400:20:18Okay. Excellent. Thank you, gentlemen. Speaker 300:20:21Thank you, Nick. Operator00:20:23Thank you. We'll now take our next question. And this is from the line of Speaker 500:20:35Hi. Good morning, everybody. Hello. Hi. Sorry for your loss. Speaker 500:20:43Question on New York, a long question here. You've got 7 40 megawatts, I believe, that you're looking To rebid, can you give us more color on when the opportunity to rebid comes? And maybe some color on how much the cost will be up Relative to the first time you bid these projects? And with that, any Thoughts on whether or not you can be as competitive with the same sites as you were last time around? Sorry, I know that's a long question. Speaker 200:21:17Thank you. I will try to make a clear answer, Rupert. First point is NYSERDA has now issued a RFI request for information. So they ask us And the industry, what is our view to make the RFP the most efficient in order to deliver The project and be able to respect finally the 70% target in 2,030 that has been reconfirmed by the Governor O'Cull. So that's the first point. Speaker 200:21:59And so this is underway. We have already replied our position last week. And so we expect That there would be the RFP really issued in December and then to get An awarding date in the first half, I would say, of 2024, I don't know exactly. It depends many times The response of NYSERDA is not always the same. So I think that First half of twenty twenty four is something reasonable. Speaker 200:22:39So that's for the when? For how much The cost the price that we would be higher, I will My view is, generally speaking, what we see in markets In Quebec, in France, in the UK, it's roughly 40%, 45% higher. I'm not saying that that's what where we will bid. My understanding is that when you compare to the awarded offshore project in New York, they have been awarded with an average price of 140 US3 dollars per megawatt hour. So definitely solar would be Really more competitive for the New York taxpayer and then there is but there is a room of improvement from The price would bid in 2019 2021. Speaker 200:23:36So that's where we are. The second point is, I don't know exactly what will be the rules of the tender and how they will There will be price points and how much there will be non price points to make a difference between projects which are Where the land is already secured, where the connection is already secured with a delay and where Local communities consultation is already advanced or the projects sometimes are already environmentally fully permitted. So obviously, we think that if they want to achieve their goal in 2,030, They need to have many non price points to be sure that the project which are advanced will be selected. So I think I hope that answer your long question by a long answer. Speaker 500:24:42Yes. Maybe one quick follow-up to that. Assuming that you do get an award in the first half of 2024. How quickly could you bring those to COD? And could they end up being part of your 4.4 gigawatts by 2025 or maybe they follow soon after? Speaker 200:25:05Yes, that's also a good And essentially, what I'm discussing with my development and purchasing team is, there is interesting signal of Cost of panels going down in the U. S. Also and not only outside of the U. S. Because the U. Speaker 200:25:25S. Is completely different market and potentially also other costs, say, being less under pressure. And so I think it will really depend of an optimization of being quick in term of Purchasing the things and building them or optimizing them a little bit more and waiting a little bit. So I have no answer On this today, but typically we can do something in 18 months, but it could be preferable to do it in, I don't know, 24 to even a little bit more depending of the price pressure at the time of the award. And we will definitely look at the present value and the best return for Boralex at that time. Speaker 500:26:17Great. Thank you. Speaker 100:26:17I can add also Rupert a point on the RFP that, as you know, Patrick was referring to the expedited RFP And we'll wait for the rules, as you mentioned, Patrick, to bid To select the projects we'll bid, but don't forget that there's also a regular RFP program. So there's going to be a 2024 RFP. So those So we are and we will the work we're doing right now and that we'll do in coming weeks months to determine What will be bid in the expedite and what will be bid in the next regular RFP? So just want to mention that. So don't forget that There's a regular program also. Speaker 500:27:06Yes. Thank you. I'll leave it there. Operator00:27:10Thank you. We'll now take our next question. And this is from David Quezada from Raymond James. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:27:23Yes. Thanks, guys. Maybe just Turning to Quebec and the news there. I'm just wondering if you could provide us an update on sort of what your bidding strategy will be for the multiple RFPs there, I know you've got some going already. And maybe on hydro specifically, I noticed that they included the expectation of some hydro. Speaker 600:27:42Wondering if you have any development stage Hydro projects in the province that could fit that. Speaker 200:27:55But generally speaking, if I understand correctly your question, Our bidding strategy from restart beginning of this year, We have increased our expected returns. That's the first point. And then on the project we bid here in Quebec, We have 2 65 Megawatt Project, which is 100% Boralex and another 100 Megawatt Project, which is a fifty-fifty partnership with the local electricity distributor, there is still some exception in Quebec On that, both projects are what is I think very interesting is they have No competition on the grid connection locally because you have seen that there is Almost a little bit more than 3 gigawatt that has been offered on this RFP. But when you check on some nodes, there is Three projects competing for the same grid connection. On some other nodes, there is 2 projects competing. Speaker 200:29:13And specifically on the node where We have developed our project and this is one of the reasons we have done that. There is no competition. So I think this is interesting. And generally speaking, the announcement of Hydro Quebec Last week of on top of what is installed already, what is under construction, meaning the 1.4 Gigawatt, we are we have contracted with Hydro Quebec and the last tender, There is still 6 gigawatts that have to be built before 2,035 in Quebec. So definitely we are working hard to be able to bid on this project. Speaker 200:30:01We're working hard with Communities and we are working hard with First Nations also to be ready to bid on this project. I would say aggressively not meaning was a low return, but aggressively in term of volume of what we would be able to bid. Speaker 600:30:22Excellent. Appreciate that color. Thanks, Patrick. And then maybe just going back to The comments around Pinto M and A and maybe just if you could touch on if there is Any jurisdiction that looks particularly interesting and just thoughts on how valuations have trended and if possible what kind of size you might look at? Speaker 200:30:47Yes. The first point on M and A is There is no rush. We need to see where the M and A market is going because The cost of capital is as such public companies as private fund and many investors also Could be stressed in the future. So we will look only In the jurisdiction where we are operating assets, we will as much as possible look for something where there is Assets in operation and developments, the value of developments has gone down, but I think It's too low today probably and so there is opportunity considering the global environment and the need of renewable energy to create value for us to acquire also a development team and project. And then but again, it will not be done at any cost as Bruno mentioned. Speaker 600:31:59Excellent. Thanks for that, Patrick. I'll turn it over. Speaker 200:32:02Thank you. Operator00:32:04Thank you. We'll now take the next question. And this is from Mark Jarvi from CIBC. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:32:15Thanks. Well, condolences to the La Mer family and the broader Boralex team on the passing of Bernard. So just coming back to the potential expedited RFP in New York, do you have any sense of whether or not it's just the 200 megawatts, which were secured a couple of years ago or Any of the other projects from the subsequent RFPs that didn't get the adjustment would be potentially eligible in the upcoming RFP? Speaker 200:32:44I think it's very difficult to say today. We have worked hardly to Answer and give our comments. I cannot tell you before having the rules of the RFP All many projects will be we will be able to bid us and others. So we will have More clear view of that, probably mid December if they issue the expedited RFP at that time. Where I am confident is that all our projects are Well advanced in term of development, so able to be delivered in the timeframe that is needed for To meet the 2,030 target of the governor. Speaker 200:33:38So I think we can leverage on that hopefully. Speaker 700:33:42Okay. And Bruno, you mentioned partnerships. Is that exclusively for larger M and A? Is that something that Could be done on other sort of larger greenfield aspirations, whether it's bigger RFPs and opportunities in New York or Quebec? Just maybe sort of how you view partnerships as an option right now? Speaker 300:34:06Yes. In general, We develop by ourselves. So on greenfield, it's mostly us. So partnerships are more either with on larger M and A, which could include, as Patrick mentioned, Operating and pipeline, but also potentially in the future as well on partnerships on existing operating assets as we've done in France. So to either on new assets or existing assets, But not at this time considered on pure greenfield. Speaker 700:34:48Okay. And then I think there was a comment earlier on about the strength of the corporate PPA market. Just comment right now how you see things, particularly in France, where I think you've done both options of bidding into the RFP with EDF and then corporate market. Where are you seeing clearing prices between those two options, duration of contracts in the corporate market and ultimately returns from those Two options to go corporate versus the utility backed PPA? Speaker 200:35:17Generally speaking, My view is that the corporate PPA market for long term contract And new assets is a little bit higher than utility backed PPA or CFD contract with EDF, which is normal because the counterparty is not at the end of French state. It's another counterparty, but it's so it's interesting and it's an opportunity for us. On the shorter term market for existing asset, there is also lots of demand. We have We are in negotiation to well advanced negotiation to renew 2 contract in France with Significantly higher price within existing customers and there is a reason for that. It's because the forward price for the next 3 years are higher and the customer does want to secure his procurement In renewable energy and guarantee of origin, so I think it's a very good option. Speaker 200:36:29And on top of all this, Like in North America, specifically it's in Quebec and Ontario, there is a lot of demand for New project, typically battery production facility, PV panel, green steel and hydrogen. And so there is also a market which is moving on this side a lot, so which is I think also a great opportunity for us, not only in France. Speaker 700:37:05And then if you just think about as you look ahead in a couple of quarters, is signing corporate PPAs in France for greenfield development something that you think is Likely or do you think for now, for new greenfield long term contracts, The EDFRFPs are the most likely path forward? Speaker 200:37:26No, we are chasing both and it's I would say it's very likely that we will sign something on corporate PPA and we will continue to bid because there is tender from EDF From the CRE, the Commission Regulation L'Energies, that will come and where we will be bidding. But we're looking to both options all the time. Operator00:37:49Okay. Speaker 700:37:49All right. Thanks for the time. Speaker 300:37:51Maybe, Mark, just an add on to my previous Thanks, sir, on the development and the partnerships because we do have partnerships with, for example, with First Nations So on new assets, so I wanted to clarify, I was talking mostly about as we lead those developments, But we do have partnerships there as well. So I do not want to exclude those types of partnerships, but Local municipalities and First Nations, for examples. Speaker 700:38:25No, I understood that. I was thinking more developers and or financials. But thanks for clarifying. Speaker 300:38:29Thank you. Operator00:38:32Thank you. We'll now take our next question. This is from Sean Steuart from TD Securities. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:38:44Thank you. Good morning. A couple of questions. Wondering if you can give some broader comments around the capital recycling opportunity right now. Borlax has been an astute Seller of assets historically. Speaker 800:39:00Have valuations contracted enough that those types of initiatives are off the table for now? I'm just thinking in terms of the broader funding platform, it sounds like you've got opportunities to add leverage, but Broader comments on capital recycling opportunities for the company. Speaker 300:39:22Hi, Sean. So as I mentioned, this is an opportunity that we continue to monitor. And we believe we have clearly, we have good assets. We've demonstrated In the near past at our there is and we believe there continues to be a discrepancy between Private asset valuation and the evaluation assigned by public markets, which is A different view on timing and risk. So if and when it makes sense, We'll continue to have those types of discussions, but it's not something that we'll do every day. Speaker 300:40:11But when We believe there is a significant value to add a partner in some of our existing assets. It's a possibility and we do continue to believe there is a value creation on that front that's potential. Speaker 800:40:32Okay. Thanks for that detail, Bruno. And a follow-up question on the corporate PPA environment. You gave lots of good detail to previous question. I'm just wondering if your sense, we've seen sort of unconstrained Growth in terms of price terms in both North America and Europe for corporate PPAs for the last several years despite Volatility in Wholesale Power Markets. Speaker 800:40:58Any sense of any deceleration in those price terms at this point? You referenced accelerating growth. I assume that referred to interest in terms of megawatts corporates are looking to sign, but Any further comments on price terms and sustainability of upward momentum there? Speaker 200:41:20Yes. My view and of what we see presently is The demand is really there. The many corporate in terms of price, If you look on long term and you build new assets, it's interesting to see that The price are a little bit higher than utility prices contract, But it's secured the purchaser, the energy buyer For the long term and many big purchaser who wants to secure them On green electricity are more looking not at any price, obviously, there is competition, but to secure their energy. And in Europe specifically to also secure the guarantee of origin of the electricity. So I think that's great. Speaker 200:42:26There is some big Announcement, there was Northvolt here in Quebec. There is other announcement in France. I understand that there would be a big announcement tomorrow With hydrogen production in Quebec that will be feeded with renewable energy, Hydro Quebec, specifically New Renewable and Hydro Quebec balancing contract. This is in the newspaper this morning. And this means more pressure on the corporate PPA and on the utility also to provide Energy in the future. Speaker 200:43:03So I think this it's not cooling down so much presently. Obviously, it's not the price That was last year in France, but the long term price has never gone to crazy price, but Yes. That's where we are, I think. Speaker 800:43:24Thanks for that, Patrick. That's great detail. I'll add my condolences To the team on Mr. Lemaire's passing. Thanks for your Speaker 500:43:32time. Thank you. Operator00:43:35Thank you. There are no further questions at the moment. There are no further questions coming through at the moment, so I will hand back to the speakers. Thank you. Speaker 100:44:04Well, thanks everyone for your attention. And if you have additional questions, please don't hesitate to give me a call 514-two thirteen-ten forty five. I'll make sure we quickly answer your questions. And our next call at 11 am. Have a nice day, everyone. Speaker 100:44:31Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Operator00:44:34Thank you. That does conclude the conference for today. Thank you for participating and you may now disconnect.Read morePowered by