TomaGold Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

There are 7 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to Desker's Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. My name is Audra, and I will be your operator for today's call. On our call today, all participants will be in a listen only mode. There will be an opportunity for you to ask questions at the end of today's presentation. This conference call is being recorded.

Operator

Now, I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Luca Pfeiffer, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us today. In addition to reporting unaudited financial results in accordance With U. S. Generally Accepted Accounting Principles, we discuss certain non GAAP financial measures and operating metrics, including foreign exchange neutral escalations. Investors should carefully read the definitions of these measures and metrics included in our press release to ensure that they understand them.

Speaker 1

Non GAAP financial measures and operating metrics Should not be considered in isolation, a substitute for or superior to GAAP financial measures and are provided as supplemental information only. Before we begin our prepared remarks, please allow me to remind you that certain statements made during the course of the discussion may constitute forward looking information, Which are based on management's current expectations and beliefs and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to materially differ, Including factors that may be beyond the company's control. These include, but are not limited to, expectations and assumptions related to the integration and For a description of these risks, please refer to our filings with the U. S. Securities and Exchange Commission and our press release.

Speaker 1

Speaking on today's call is our CEO, Damian Skokhin, who will provide an overview of Despegar's 3rd quarter performance as well as an update on our strategic initiatives. Amit Singh, our newly appointed CFO, will then discuss the quarter's financial results in more detail and our annual guidance. After which Damian will end our prepared remarks with a wrap up before opening the call for your questions. Damian, please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Luca, and thank you, everyone, for joining this call. Before delving into our financial performance for the quarter, I would like to extend a warm welcome to Amit Singh, our newly appointed Chief Financial Officer, As we kick off this earnings call, Amit, we are thrilled to have you on board. Shifting our focus to the results, We're very excited to share yet another quarter of strong revenue growth and profitability. Revenues for the quarter were $178,000,000 a new record for the company I will presenting an industry leading growth rate of 22% year over year in dollars and 43% Year over year in constant currency. This growth was completely organic, driven by strong commercial execution and supported By robust demand trends, primarily in our core markets of Mexico and Brazil.

Speaker 2

Additionally, Gross bookings for the quarter were up solidly at 25% year over year in dollars and 44% Year over year in constant currency, the strong top line growth and improving revenue mix, combined with our ongoing initiatives To gain additional operational efficiencies, drove operating leverage and resulted in adjusted EBITDA Of $24,700,000 in the quarter, an impressive 106% increase year over year. As we set our sights on the final weeks of the year, our optimism remain high. Our strong financial performance, particularly with regards to revenue and EBITDA, Reflects the culmination of several factors. Our consistently effective commercial execution leading to record organic growth, The market's robust demand trends, our improving product mix and operating leverage. What we have been achieving in these areas each quarter is a testament to our team's dedication And our commitment to delivering strong shareholder returns.

Speaker 2

Looking ahead, we remain very optimistic About our growth prospects in the coming quarters and years, our strategic focus on B2C, B2B and B2B2C channels, Combined with our distinct competitive edge and technological progress remains central to our continued success. So let's review the various strategic initiatives that we've been successfully executing on. First, some context. Despegar is still in the early innings of capturing more of the past and underpenetrated Latin American travel market, Providing us with a great deal of upside in the coming years. Based on recent Euromonitor estimates, The region's total travel market stands at approximately $150,000,000,000 with an almost equal split between the online and the Off line segment.

Speaker 2

Further, we believe our market will expand at double digit rates in the years to come. In the current year, Despegar is poised to generate more than $5,000,000,000 in gross bookings, with significant 85% of it Originating largely from our B2C channel, where we believe we have a strong competitive advantage And significant long term growth opportunities. Our B2B channel, while currently representing only 7% Our overall bookings taps into the equally massive offline market. It's growing at more than twice the rate of our B2C channel. We continue to efficiently penetrate this area of LATAM's travel market By further leveraging our industry leading technology platform, more specifically, our B2B offering Enables the offline travel agencies to directly access our market leading inventory through our best in class technology solution.

Speaker 2

In addition to our strong B2B growth, We continue to expand our B2B2C channel, which represents 8% of our bookings. This white label solution provides our business partners a cost effective, easily deployable tool That allows them to leverage the Spigar's tech platform to provide complete and affordable trips to the client base. Some of our biggest B2B2C clients include major players in the banking, retail and travel industries in the region. During the quarter, we on boarded 2 new wide level clients and expanded the geographic scope of 3 existing clients. As a result, today we served a total of 77 white label clients within Latin America.

Speaker 2

In summary, We continue successfully executing against our ambitious B2C, B2B and B2B2C target To solidify our position as the leading travel technology company in the region, Given our success to date, we're also eyeing the opportunity to expand our B2B and B2B2C footprint beyond LatAm in the future. Our business to business and business to business to consumer solutions operate in a global travel market, which Euromonitor currently estimates to be around $2,000,000,000,000 and growing strongly. As the leading travel technology company in Latin America, we believe And our bookings volume suggests we currently hold a commanding position in the region's highly fragmented travel market I have ample opportunity to further extend and strengthen our leadership. Moreover, Our current and projected above market revenue growth rate, Despegar's position as the number one travel brand in LatAm And strong growth in downloads and usage of our apps all indicate that we are gaining meaningful market share. This along with our strong competitive position versus both regional and global travel companies As well as our culture of leading through technology make us confident that we can continue taking market share and therefore Grow our revenues above the overall market growth rate for the foreseeable future.

Speaker 2

In addition to the strong organic growth That we expect to generate in the years ahead, we believe we can continue effectively consolidating the Latin American travel market Through additional acquisitions, our goal on this front remains the same, selectively acquire companies that expand Our travel platform with additional value enhancing capabilities and products or that improve access to growing geographic markets, All with the aim of further solidifying our organic growth profile longer term. It is important to note that you can expect us to remain disciplined with regards to the implied valuation of what we pay for any acquisition. We have a long list of potential targets and also have a strong balance sheet that position us well To quickly capitalize on opportunities when a target company meets all our strict criteria. As a prominent technology company in Latin America, we are committed to continuous innovation, particularly in cutting edge domains That's generative AI and large language models. As we highlighted in our most recent earnings call, We proudly introduced a beta version of our AI Trip Planner to a select group of customers in Argentina.

Speaker 2

This innovative tool empowers customers to engage directly with our generative AI chatbot To quickly create customized and attractive travel solutions, the initial results Of the beta test have been promising as customers were able to very quickly and effectively address their travel related needs. Our technology strategy centers on a steadfast commitment to leveraging generative AI To further strengthen our technology progress and further solidify our position as a market leader in the region. We also use our technology expertise to continually enhance our customer experience and user interface By regularly introducing new features that enable fast, frictionless and seamless travel searches and transactions. In alignment with our commitment to an exceptional customer experience, we are rolling out the integration of WhatsApp enabling customers to efficiently make travel related inquiries and seamlessly book additional service and experiences directly Through this integrated chat feature. For those of you who don't know, WhatsApp is the most widely used communication platforms In Latin America, the popularity of our apps across our multi brand portfolio continues to rise, in line with our app first approach.

Speaker 2

This results in a record breaking transaction level across all our brands, while our installed base With almost 13,000,000 devices, that makes our apps among the most downloaded travel apps in Latin America. In fact, consolidated app based transactions have reached an all time high accounting for just over 40% Of our total transactions and an impressive year over year increase of 558 basis points. This surge in app transactions not only brings us closer to our customers through increased engagement, That significantly reduces customer acquisition costs while enabling us to remain attuned to our customers' evolving travel needs. Our best in class technology platform is also a significant competitive advantage for our B2B2C business And its unmatched flexibility allows us to provide tailor made platform solutions To our business partners, while also enabling them to easy scale the platform in line with demand levels. Our B2B clients on the other hand see our platform as a technologically advanced and cost effective way to access our vast Air and non air inventory, providing their offline customers with compelling, complete and affordable travel options.

Speaker 2

Their business is also supported by a market leading brand. Our strong brand Stands as one of our most significant competitive advantages, underpinning our success throughout Latin America. We take immense pride in maintaining an undisputed leadership position in unaided brand awareness across the region, Surprising both local and global competitors. But the Espegard strong brand presence enabled us to achieve much more than just market visibility. It empower us to execute tailored marketing campaigns for the local partners.

Speaker 2

Further, Our massive customer database gives us a deep understanding of local and emerging consumer preferences, Which also makes us the preferred partner to secure exclusive deals with hotels and airlines across the region. We believe these deals often can't be matched by global competitors and they underscore our unique ability to cater to The heart of our operation lies with our local Know how and on the ground sales teams who understand the diverse preferences of our consumers And who maintain a solid foundation of long standing relationships with suppliers across the region. This is a substantial competitive mode. Thanks to these relationships, our comprehensive hotel inventory Remains the largest in the region. Beyond our expanding hotel offerings, our vacations rentals vertical represents an exciting avenue for growth.

Speaker 2

In the last 9 months alone, this particular business line has surged by an impressive 45% in terms of inventory. We made significant strides recently expanding our travel platform to feature more than 750,000 properties By the end of this quarter, this was just $400,000 at the same time last year. But we're not stopping there. During the Q3, we joined forces with BRBO, which will significantly expand our vacation rentals inventory. By year's end, we anticipate offering almost 1,000,000 units in total, Further solidifying our position in the market and enhancing the variety and choice of accommodations available to our customer.

Speaker 2

Finally, it's worth noting that local airlines have been consistently expanding their capacity in Latin America. This is in response to robust demand patterns and high load factors that persist. What's particularly significant Is that the majority of this additional capacity is being allocated to international routes. These routes catered to both travel within Latin America and journeys from the region to the United States and Europe. This trend is indeed favorable for us as international trips typically command higher average ticket price.

Speaker 2

Furthermore, it broadens our opportunities when it comes to selling higher margin hotel accommodations and package transactions. Looking ahead, we expect sustained growth in international travel based on current trends and the growth we have been observing in domestic travel. Before I hand the call over to Amit, who will go over the specifics of our quarterly financial results, I'd like to take a moment To discuss the key elements of our strategy that have been instrumental in driving sustained revenue growth, diversifying our revenue streams and improving our profitability. As I highlighted at the beginning of the call, we continue to execute well in our primary markets, Brazil and Mexico. Gross bookings in these combined markets reached 61% of total gross bookings And grew 40% year over year, reaching a total of $845,000,000 Further, our strategy to drive higher margin package sales continues yielding excellent results With total packages as a percentage of gross bookings increasing a strong 4 percentage points year on year To 30 percent of gross bookings.

Speaker 2

We expect to maintain this positive growth trajectory for the remaining of the year and in the coming years. As I noted earlier, our B2B business is a cornerstone of our growth strategy, Growing almost at twice the rate of our B2C business and reaching 15% of our total gross bookings. This clearly demonstrates the strength of our technology progress, brand and distribution strategy That are enabling us to further penetrate Latin American's travel market, while keeping the opportunity to expand globally wide open. Transactions via our B2C apps reached a record high, accounting for more than 40% of all transactions in this quarter, As I noted before, we also continue making significant progress in strengthening customer relationships with our brands. At present, we boast nearly 20,000,000 loyalty program members and over the past year, Points redemptions have doubled to 10%.

Speaker 2

Notably, our solid Net Promoter Score, NPS, Continuous rising in line with our ambition to be the most trusted and valued travel brand. Brand loyalty that's completely cultivated and strengthened through our customer centric approach remains a vital component of our growth strategy. With that, I will pass the call to Amit for a more comprehensive review of our Q3 performance.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Damian. I'm really glad to be here, and thank you, everyone, for joining our call today. I would like to start by thanking the Board and Damian for giving me the opportunity to join the company's executive team. It is my privilege To join Despegar at this time in its lifecycle. When the company has established itself as a leading travel technology company in Latin America And has many opportunities to continue growing far above industry rates in the coming years.

Speaker 3

In addition, I see tremendous opportunities to further improve the company's margins and cash conversion and to help investors better understand The massive investment opportunity in the company. Now to discuss this quarter's results. The strengthening revenue And to the strong demand trends we are witnessing across Latin America, particularly in Brazil and Mexico, our 2 largest markets. As a result, we reported $1,400,000,000 in gross bookings and achieved an all time quarterly high for revenues, This totaled $178,000,000 This equates to a year over year revenue growth of 22%, Which we believe is industry leading globally. Our revenue growth rate in constant currencies is even more robust, Up 43% year over year.

Speaker 3

Our take rate also remained healthy at 12.9%, reflecting our unwavering focus on profitable growth. I'm particularly pleased with the outstanding 106% year over year increase in our adjusted EBITDA, Which reached $24,700,000 for the quarter. This substantial improvement in profitability can be attributed to our Underlying operating leverage and three key factors. First, the very strong growth trend in our bookings, revenues and product mix. 2nd, enhanced efficiencies at our fulfillment center operations, primarily driven by productivity improvements.

Speaker 3

And 3rd, greater efficiencies with regard to journal and administrative expenses along with efficiency gains related to our technology and content costs. Now, let's delve deeper into the markets where we operate to provide a better understanding of our improving performance. We continue driving better results in our Brazilian operations with year over year bookings growth reaching 44% on an as reported basis And 34% in constant currency, resulting in total gross bookings of $561,000,000 a record since the company's initial public offering back in 2017. These outstanding results are due to 3 primary factors. First, our strong commercial execution and continuously improving competitive dynamics in the market, also leading to higher average selling prices versus last 2nd, our success at offering attractive vacation packages to our customers continues to bear fruit and third, Continued growth in our higher ticket international travel.

Speaker 3

Moving to our 2nd most important market, Mexico. It has also played a pivotal role in our exceptional results. Gross bookings experienced significant year over year growth of 32%, While growing 11% on a constant currency basis. This positive trend has been primarily driven by our strategic decision to invest in profitable growth in this Turning to the rest of Latin America, we observed a 8% year over year improvement in gross bookings and a 66% increase in constant currency. This increase was helped by Argentina, The demand was strong.

Speaker 3

Additionally, the demand for international trips in Chile remains strong. It's important to highlight the exceptional performance of our B2B offering. To provide some context, our approach involves leveraging our Notably, this specific business vertical has demonstrated a remarkable growth rate, surpassing our B2C growth more than twofold. We are genuinely excited about the robust growth trends in this area. Our focus remains on empowering our partner agencies to access Despegar's Intensive inventory of both air and non air travel offerings in a cost effective manner.

Speaker 3

This in turn allows these offline travel agencies To present their customers with an enticing array of affordable travel options. Importantly, their customer relationships and personalized approach Enables them to sell a greater proportion of higher margin travel packages. As we set our sights on the Q4 and the years ahead, we see Strong travel trends across the region. Airlines are consistently deploying more international capacity, which also bodes well for our performance outlook. With this in mind, we are optimistic about the growth opportunities we are seeing currently in the Q4 and about what we expect in the coming years.

Speaker 3

Given our ability to effectively capitalize on the secular growth in LatAm's travel market. Looking at our cash flow during the Q3, we generated $34,000,000 in operating cash flow, which compares to positive $10,000,000 in the same quarter last year. CapEx totaled $11,000,000 in the 3rd quarter. During the quarter, we also paid $8,000,000 in dividends to our preferred A and B shareholders. Despite our CapEx investments, investments in the business and preferred dividend payments, our total cash Position increased $11,700,000 since the closing of Q2 2023.

Speaker 3

We therefore Finished the quarter with a strong cash position of $255,700,000 giving us the financial to continue investing in growth initiatives such as technology, product development and additional build out of our travel ecosystem, While also selectively pursuing potential mergers and acquisitions to further consolidate our leadership position in the region. Now to discuss our updated financial guidance. Based on our consistently strong execution throughout the year and particularly in the Q3, In combination with a healthy demand environment, we are raising the lower end of our revenue and EBITDA guidance ranges, Which, as a reminder, stood at $640,000,000 to $700,000,000 for revenue and $80,000,000 to $100,000,000 For adjusted EBITDA, we now expect our full year 2023 revenues to be in the range of $670,000,000 to $700,000,000 And our full year adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of $90,000,000 to $100,000,000 Also, we remain quite confident in maintaining a very Strong top line growth profile and an even stronger adjusted EBITDA growth profile in the coming years. Now back over to Zemiya, Who would like to summarize the quarter before we open the call for your questions? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Amit. I'd like to share a few Key takeaways from our Q3 review. Our most recent results have proven to be exceptional once again, Thanks to the consistent and successful execution of our strategic initiatives and our unwavering commitment To achieving profitable growth. Notably, our revenue mix continued improving, while our results in Brazil and Mexico were outstanding, Propering the Espegard to new record height, our progress is most evident in adjusted EBITDA, Our strongest third quarter EBITDA since the IPO. As we approach the end of the year, We are encouraged by a still robust surge in travel demand.

Speaker 2

Longer term, we anticipate that the strong secular tailwinds That help drive our success will persist. However, we are not resting on our laurels. We are continually finding new ways to better capitalize on these tailwinds as well as further strengthening the Espegar competitive mode. We are therefore committed to leading with innovation to continually enhance our technological capabilities And offer the best user experience to fully leveraging our technology platform and local market expertise And always reinforcing our strong relationships with travel partners. These strategic measures We will further propel our top line growth while we continue increasing operational efficiencies To drive additional earnings power, what's equally important is our focus on carefully Reinvesting these efficiencies back into the business, which we believe is the most effective way to sustainably drive shareholders' value.

Speaker 2

This approach will enable us to foster sustained organic growth, diversify our offering And further solidify our position as an industry leader. In summary, We're poised to finish the fiscal year on a high note. Thanks to the strong execution on our proven growth strategies and sustained demand growth. We remain focused on continuous improvement, aiming to maximize our potential While delivering superior value to our customers and stakeholders for the foreseeable future. With that, Let's open the call for questions.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we will open the floor for your questions. As a reminder, you may also submit your questions online by using the Q and A function of the webcast platform. We'll take our first question from Naved Khan at B. Riley Securities.

Speaker 4

Good evening, everyone. Congrats on a good quarter. A few questions from me. Just maybe one high level. So So, Damian, I think when we started out in 2023, you talked about recovery in international as kind of one of the drivers.

Speaker 4

So now that we are in November, where do you see international recovery? Do you think there's still legs from here? And then on mobile app, it's great to see that 40% of your bookings are coming through 40% of transactions in mobile app. Does it mean that you're getting higher mix of direct traffic Today and when should we expect that to kind of yield some leverage on marketing lines?

Speaker 2

David, hi. Thanks for your question. In terms of International traffic, as we mentioned, it's been recovering, but it's still below 2018 levels. Our estimates For the quarter, we're in between minus 10% and minus 15% when compared to pre pandemic levels. As per the mobile app, Yes, we are focusing on increasing the share of organic nonpaid traffic, But also the profitability levels that we are achieving also allow us to invest heavily in acquiring traffic With very good returns.

Speaker 2

So the increased penetration in app is a good news That will not necessarily reflect in a much larger penetration on not paid traffic.

Speaker 4

And are you seeing Good repeat behavior, people who download the app are coming back with higher frequency. Can you just comment on that?

Speaker 2

Yes. We track not only app transactions or app downloads, but we also track engagement. And the beauty of the app is that it's a very effective tool To keep customers coming back. So yes, we are seeing that effect.

Speaker 4

Okay. And One question for Amit. Amit, welcome to Disregard Earnings. And you spoke about operational efficiencies. Can you give us some more color on the kinds of things that you've been able to do to kind of achieve these?

Speaker 3

Sure. Thank you, Naved. I'm glad to be here. To your point on operational efficiencies, I mean, it's true if you look at year over year, we have increased not just our Top line, but our overall EBITDA margin significantly increasing it by close to 6% and we expect that trend to continue going And if you're looking at operational efficiencies per se, literally in every line item through our P and L. Obviously, we have a focus on Take rate and all that, but below that when you look at the expenses that we have in sales and marketing, tech and content, G and A,

Speaker 4

Hey guys, I think we lost the audio there.

Speaker 3

Sorry about that. I think we lost the audio over there. But just to I don't know where I got Cut off. But to give you some ideas, we're making as per your question, Naveed, we're making very strong progress on driving Operating efficiencies, as you saw that our adjusted EBITDA margin has increased almost 600 basis points year over year And call it cost of revenue is even better. And you should expect us to keep driving these efficiencies going forward In multiple in all the line items in our P and L, if you look at our sales and marketing expense, if you look at our G and A expense, if you look at our tech and content expense, We have internally obviously identified a ton of efficiencies that we can generate in all of those areas, And we will keep driving going forward.

Speaker 3

The goal is to drive EBITDA margins to our long term targets that we have provided, and we expect to achieve those targets hopefully Much before what we had previously guided to.

Speaker 4

Great. Thank you.

Operator

We'll move to our next question from Andrew Rubin at Morgan Stanley.

Speaker 5

Hi, thanks very much for the question. Echoing the congratulations on the quarter. I'd be curious first if you could provide an update on the competitive backdrop in Brazil, specifically light of one of your larger competitors filing for bankruptcy protection, I'm curious what kind of opportunities that affords for Despegar, Any notable changes in the market structure on the back of that would be very curious to start. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Andrew, Thanks for your question. I just reiterate the fact that during the last 2 to 3 weeks of Q3, a large competitor in Brazil, 1 to 3 miles, 5 from bankruptcy. Basically, that was a policy scheme that has been hurting the travel market significantly over the last couple of years. And we by selling tickets that they were not able to deliver. That has 2 impacts, I would say.

Speaker 2

1 is something you start to see on a marginal basis in Q3, but certainly strongly in Q4. So we are starting to gain share in the resilient market, but also the competitive dynamic of having Such an irrational player in the market has changed dramatically. So we expect That's my situation to continue providing ample room for growth of our brands in Brazil.

Speaker 5

Great. No, it makes a lot of sense. And then just honing in on another topic you mentioned, the Opportunity to expand the B2B footprint beyond LatAm. I'm curious how you think about that opportunity and maybe within the framing of What part of your kind of tech stack competitive advantages you think are specific to the region versus what have the opportunity to be exported to other

Speaker 2

Yes. And look, keep in mind as a background that since the acquisition of Westbay, we've been heavily Investing in developing our B2B technological platform. And when we see our performance, Both in B2B in general, but particularly in white labels, the B2B2C arena, and we compete with some of the largest OTAs and software companies even in that arena, our development platform is on par with even better than most. That's why we've been gaining such a significant number of clients over the last few years. And even we've been approaching By some companies outside the Latin American space, so far we haven't put any focus on that.

Speaker 2

But certainly, We feel that based on our emerging platform and our capabilities in terms of strong inventory, That's an obvious growth that can be extremely efficient for the company.

Speaker 5

Great. Very interesting. I appreciate the color.

Operator

And we'll move to our next question from Jacob Seed at Cowen.

Speaker 6

Hi, thanks for taking my question. I'm in for Kevin. Can you provide an update on the store openings that you mentioned in the last call in Brazil and Argentina? Are those plans still on track? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thank you for the question. Yes, the plans are on track, and we're making progress accordingly To reach our target of 5 stores in Argentina and 10 in Brazil.

Speaker 3

This is Ahmed. Just to add to what Demi is saying, While all the store openings and all remain on track, just wanted to highlight again our broader strategy there. We're using we're Tapping into B2B and separately through the store strategy into the offline market. And the broader goal is to slowly, slowly further enable the transition or the faster transition of the offline to online. And we're seeing very strong success, of course through our stores and also through our B2B channel as well.

Speaker 6

Great. And I was wondering now that you're integrated with Vrbo, are you guys considering taking part in the vacation rental search on Google?

Speaker 2

Can you repeat the question? You got somehow cut off.

Speaker 6

Yes. Are you considering taking part in the vacation

Speaker 2

So we look at all the traffic channels, and we store them and we use them Based on the return on investment, and we certainly are looking to that as an additional source of traffic.

Operator

Next, we'll move to Zhao Sores at Citi.

Speaker 6

Thank you and congratulations on the results. I got a couple of questions. The first one, I just wanted to explore a little bit of the transaction growth in Brazil. If that comes from in fact, let me know that there is a capacity increase, of course.

Speaker 3

Hi, Joe. Hi, this is Amit. We're having a very hard time hearing you, if you don't mind just picking up a little bit. I appreciate it. Thank you very much.

Speaker 6

Sure, sure. Can you hear me better now?

Speaker 3

Yes, much better.

Speaker 6

Yes. Okay, perfect. Okay. So just a couple of questions. The first one, I just wanted to understand a little bit The transaction increase in Brazil.

Speaker 6

Is there I mean, are you guys offering new products, new services, new destinations? Or is it simply, I mean, of course, you're gaining market share, there's capacity increase, but I just want to dig a little bit deeper in terms of the Service and product level that you're offering in Brazil? That's the first question. 2nd one, I just wanted to understand now if there's room to potentially revise the medium term Guidance. And then I'll follow-up on another question.

Speaker 2

In terms of the Growth in Brazil, that's, as we mentioned, pure organic growth. And we have not introduced any additional product or services. This is just our growth on top of the natural growth of the market. That means we're getting share. It's As I said, there's a very limited effect of the demise of one of our competitors, that is our organic Growth trajectory in Brazil, nothing else than that.

Speaker 3

And I will I'll answer your question on medium term guidance. Obviously, as you are seeing our trends since Since the time the company provided a medium term guidance a year or so ago, the trends have been extremely positive relative to that guidance. When we come on the Q4 earnings call early next year, we can provide a little bit more color. But broadly, what I can say right now is You should expect us to grow above market growth rate in the coming years, given not just in Brazil, but across Latin America, The strengthened position that we have established or leading position we have established. And then Not just on bookings and revenue, like we were discussing earlier, there's still a ton of opportunities for operational efficiencies.

Speaker 3

So you should continue expecting us on top line to grow above market, but then for our EBITDA growth To be faster than top line growth in the coming years. As we come on our as I mentioned earlier, as we come on the Q4 earnings call, we will be able Provide a little bit more concrete guidance, but we feel very good about the coming years.

Speaker 6

Perfect. That's very clear. I mean, one last one. I just wanted to understand the income tax this quarter. Can you just clarify what happened when the last quarter had a big Tax credit in this quarter was pretty robust, almost 100% of EBT.

Speaker 6

So just wanted to understand what's happening there. Thank you.

Speaker 3

It's largely related to the profit in a few entities, which were very solid, especially in Argentina That led to a little higher tax there. And also, we have exhausted the NOLs that we had in Argentina in the prior So high attack largely related to very strong bookings trend that we are seeing In a few entities, particularly in Argentina.

Speaker 6

Very clear. Thank you.

Operator

We do have a couple of questions from our webcast. I would like to go first to Alexandre Nwad from Singular Gulf. His question is how did coin perform in the quarter? Was it what was its EBITDA?

Speaker 3

Sure. It's a coin business again in line with the other guidances that we have provided previously. Coin continues to do much better than the medium term sort of guidance that we have provided in the past, Where the margins for the overall business continue to accelerate very strongly, for this quarter, It was very close to flat line EBITDA, and we expect slightly negative this quarter. We expect Flattish EBITDA next quarter and then in the coming years in 2024 and beyond, we should expect positive EBITDA contribution from Quine.

Operator

And our next question comes from Andrew Carreon with MF Value Capital. He says, Hello. Congratulations on the very strong results. Could you give an update on coin and how the team is viewing the opportunity to Scale in the coming years, particularly as interest rates potentially fall. Is there still an opportunity to scale this product outside the Despegar platform?

Speaker 2

Yes. Thank you, Andrew, for your question. As we've been reiterating over the last few quarters, In calling so far in the prevailing market context industry, we follow a strategy of Preserving the quality of our portfolio. As the situation in the Brazilian credit market improves and we're seeing some Indications of turning around will certainly increase the growth rate I've always been very cautious on the quality of our portfolio. So certainly, we see an opportunity in the future, By the way, we're going to act on that very prudently, I would say.

Operator

And there appear to be no further questions at this Time, I would like to turn the floor back over to Mr. Skokin for any closing remarks.

Speaker 2

I just want to thank all of you for your Thank you, Justin Despegar and your participation in this call, and we are looking forward to seeing you on our next call to discuss our Q4 results. Thank you very much.

Operator

This does conclude today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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