Draganfly Q3 2023 Earnings Report $2.18 -0.19 (-8.02%) Closing price 04/11/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$2.28 +0.10 (+4.40%) As of 04/11/2025 07:33 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Draganfly EPS ResultsActual EPS-$2.50Consensus EPS -$2.75Beat/MissBeat by +$0.25One Year Ago EPSN/ADraganfly Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$1.59 millionExpected Revenue$2.07 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$480.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/ADraganfly Announcement DetailsQuarterQ3 2023Date11/9/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateThursday, November 9, 2023Conference Call Time5:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsDraganfly's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 13, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 5:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptInterim ReportEarnings HistoryDPRO ProfilePowered by Draganfly Q3 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrNovember 9, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 4 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Earnings Call. My name is Rolly Bustos. And while I know most of you, I remind all others that I am the internal Investor Relations representative here at Dragonfly. We appreciate you joining us today. We'll start as usual with our CEO and President, Cameron Schell, discussing the Q3 operational highlights. Operator00:00:18From there, our CFO, Paul Sun, will discuss the financials. And as always, we will conclude with our Lead Director, Scott Larsen, facilitating the Q and A portion. You are welcome to reach out to me individually after the call at investor. Relationsdragonfly.com. Once again, I remind everyone that this presentation may include forward looking information and statements. Operator00:00:41These statements are not guarantees of future performance or financial results and undue reliance should not be placed on them. Any future events or financial results may differ from what might be discussed here. A forward looking disclaimer can be found on Page 2 of this presentation, and I'd be happy to send that to anybody upon request. So, Kam, please go ahead. Speaker 100:01:04Thanks, Ruili. Thanks to other members of the management and executive for being here. I know we also have multiple customers, partners attending and most prominently thanks to our shareholders for being here today. I'm pleased to announce that we have just had a record quarter in 2023 On revenues of $2,138,000,000 with product sales of $1,600,000 and provision of services of just under $500,000 Also exciting to report is our gross margin of just under 42%. So we had a gross profit this last quarter of $894,000 Our cash balance at the end of the quarter was $2,400,000 We did a subsequent financing of $4,500,000 which closed on October 30. Speaker 100:02:02I think most notably in this as it relates to the revenue is that Our two plants are now up and operational. We finished the second plant And just turned it on in Q3. And I think we've started to see that now production flow off of the benches and off of the line. And if you've been really good about how we're now going to be able to satisfy the order book and start to see scale. I think it's really important to note the world and geopolitical situation and really what's happening in the drone space as it relates specifically to scale. Speaker 100:02:46So we have in the past talked about The scaling of the commercial industry and how it's really starting to come into its own with first the advent of many regulations, but most prominently beyond visual line of sight. But a little around 2 years ago now, as the Ukraine conflict broke out, The reality is that small UAVs have proven incredibly effective In the theater of conflict and defense, so much so that the entire strategy and tactics around air dominance Has shifted. So previously, Air Dominance was all about large manned systems, integrated communications, AWAC system, Integrated data analysis and real time impact analysis. And today from 5,000 feet down, Air dominance is all about small UAV. So almost regardless of the mass and the size of the manned and large infrastructure air dominance that we've known or Come to know in the defense field, if in a given area you're putting up multiples of small UAVs, You will have strategic advantage and tactical dominance on your area of operation. Speaker 100:04:08And that is a significant change. Now, we've kind of been preaching that this would happen for years, but it took the unfortunate conflict in Ukraine for this to become completely understood. So, we're now seeing So we're now seeing budgets, massive budgets from the NATO countries. Those are the ones that we have visibility with that NATO and Friendly countries Are now moving not just to autonomy, but certainly to autonomy, but predominantly within that autonomy, they're moving to air autonomy Because again, that is where you can establish dominance for the most part. So whether it's Eastern Europe, whether it's the unfortunate circumstances in the Middle East, Whether it's the incredible burgeoning market of border security in Africa that now can afford to do border security because they don't have to build air forces Or satellite comms or satellite observation to be able to do it. Speaker 100:05:00So we see huge opportunities now in that market as it relates to border security And small UAVs or the Southeast Asia theater, including Taiwan and the potential challenges around Territorial disputes and such with China, it is absolutely being dominated by UAV Discussions. To speak to this a little bit, approximately looking at about $20,000,000,000 of growth between now and 2,030 In the small UAV market, this is being led by Defense. So rather than large infrastructure systems, Defense is now looking to put in Tens of thousands of swarms of drones in order to counterbalance the threats that may be Out there and the efficiencies that come along with these small relatively inexpensive units. So Defense Innovation Unit announced the Replicator program. This is a Pentagon program dedicated to Basically deploying tens of thousands of drones in the next couple of years of various sizes. Speaker 100:06:11So these will range from The category 3 all the way down in category 1, probably more focused around category 2 and category 3, which we play in. And we're really excited about what these opportunities are. And we have seen a marked increase in pipeline, which we think we'll be adding to our order flow here shortly. I think it's a really important note within the space. So you can see by our product, the products that we have built historically and that we have in market now and the type of work that we've done with our contract engineering division and the personnel that we have. Speaker 100:06:48Up into the right, that's AI and military type of Operations down into the left is consumer toy type drones. And so you can see that our Dragonfly 3 XL drone, our search and rescue drones are heavy lift They are all skewing up into the right. And so, of course, we don't play in the pure military space. We play in the commercialmilitary space. Now, Whether by design or by luck, this is the space that the military is looking to pull from, right? Speaker 100:07:17It's from the consumer space, the ability for Not the consumer space, the commercial space. The ability for militaries to tap into the commercial manufacturers who are now starting to gain some scale, including Dragonfly. In fact, I would say led by Dragonfly that have the ability to field and deploy this type of equipment and do rapid innovation, Iteration and production in order to meet the demands of this market. This is what's won the day in the Ukraine theater. This seems to be what we'll be pushing forward on the agenda in the other theatres as well, proven by data and proven By actually what we've seen happen in the Ukraine where again Dragonfly has had the fortunate opportunity to be very active. Speaker 100:08:02Just taking a quick look at our products here. We've got our heavy lift drone. This is about a 9 foot across drone, carries £70. It's got a 50 minute Operational flight time, it can be used for multiple types of operations, whether it's sensor, ISR, delivery. Even in the commercial space, this is being used in wildfire type of situations to carry in equipment, It's carrying chainsaws as is the 3 XL to the first to the right there. Speaker 100:08:32Now this last quarter we did introduce 3 XL Hybrid. We've got incredible demand on this hybrid. So basically what happened is we built the 3 XL and our customers, in particular military Pipeline came back and said we need this drone, but we need it in a format that can fly for 3 plus hours. And so we designed along with a partner of 70 cc engine that integrates onto the 3 XL And can provide up to 3 hour flight times with an additional 4 kilograms, that's just under £9 of payload. So it's got lots of sensor capability, it's got lots of Payload and ordinance capability still at that weight. Speaker 100:09:14It can actually go longer than that if you make the payload gasoline as well. So you could fly this thing for 8 plus hours. So it's potentially everything from a lawyer to remunition to a very sophisticated ISR platform. The precision dropdown We introduced that in Q2. We've now see orders happening in Q3 for it and pushing into Q4. Speaker 100:09:34This has got lots of applications, both commercial And military right below that is a quick delivery quick release delivery box. Important to note on this box is really the innovations around this box that allow for a number of other military applications to happen, but this is built on top of the medical delivery platform, that we introduced into the market about a year and a half ago. The Starling X2 drone is getting terrific traction. There are a number of pre orders Coming in, we have not officially recorded on our books any of those orders as of yet, but we're basically in a position now to start the production on those and great work to the promo drone tree and this will have an impact for us come Q1 and Q2. And then obviously the Commander 3XL, this base platform that was designed by our product team and engineers really isn't a category by itself. Speaker 100:10:28It's not that small type of ISR drill. It's a very competitive market. Not that we don't make those on our workbenches, but on our production line, This is the area that we're focusing on a bit more category 2 ish and up and above between this and the heavy lift To be able to provide longer battery life, multiple different sensors, we've got dozens and dozens and dozens of different integrations that are built For this drone, it's really that multipurpose drone that can be used for anything from ISR through to delivery of any type of almost imaginable payload That you can think through. And it's really just a big flying battery. That's really everything ends and begins and ends with your design Of the battery. Speaker 100:11:10So lots of other product initiatives that are happening. They're all customer driven, but this platform is really what's launching us right now. Some operational highlights for the last quarter. We secured the first defense orders for the Commander 3XL With the US military and it's being utilized to enhance mission success, in particular in GPS denied environments. So incredibly important and incredibly tax You need a very robust platform in order to house all of the additional equipment sensors, radios, shields, And TANIS, etcetera, in order to operate in those environments. Speaker 100:11:48So really thrilled that we were selected in this regard. And we are engaged at multiple levels With multiple militaries and divisions of at our training center going through testing and preparing for the specs to We were also selected by a state geological survey. Now this is important on lots of reasons because that geological Survey is a heavy lift in terms of the battery requirement and the sensors that they are using. And it is helping standardize this drone for this type of work across the other State geological survey organizations. Now again, in order to do this, You have to be an NDAA compliant drone. Speaker 100:12:34You have to have met stringent Testing requirements, cybersecurity requirements in order to demonstrate that you don't have the security breach And such, I know there's a lot of talk about, oh, you have to be Blue UAS, you have to be this. We've been selling into these environments, not necessarily the military, but into Agencies for years. So though we're not necessarily on the blue UAS list, we are able to sell into these markets because of our Past history and because of our NDAA compliance and because we have that proven track record. That said, we are working diligently As it relates to Green UAS and expect those types of certifications to follow as well. We had a very significant sale this last quarter into the And as many people would know, the corrections market for the drone industry is significant. Speaker 100:13:28We do believe that this is probably the largest sale of equipment into the corrections industry to date. And our pipeline, though it's not represented yet In our order book, our pipeline is very, very robust in the corrections market. And that would be both drone and counter drone Technology as well as our Vital Intelligence technology, which provides health monitoring simply through the camera for prison populations and intake protocol. We also, this last quarter, went to work for the Canadian governments, In particular, a provincial government that had over 300 wildfires raging at one particular time. And so we've signed a multi year contract with that province where we're providing crews and our drones in order to provide visual oversight, Hotspotting, thermal flights at night to check for ground fires. Speaker 100:14:25Next year, we're moving into equipment delivery. Really have quickly become a leader in this space with operational experience and setting the standard and standard operating In order to expand this to other provinces as well as several states that we were in discussions with. So we do expect unfortunately a very robust Fire season next year with multiple engagements happening throughout North America. A leader in the energy research Industry has standardized an association has also standardized on the Commander 3XL drone. And this is really important because This particular customer is responsible for making the recommendation of how they inspect their infrastructure nationwide And having them have standardized on the Commander 3 XL drone is a significant win for us because as we prove that platform out with them over the In this next 6 or 8 months, it presumably and hopefully will become that recommendation. Speaker 100:15:25I think we're well down that path to the rest of the industry in this particular energy industry, which has a potential of 1,000 of roles annually. A couple of the last few operational highlights that I'll just Mention is certainly the unveiling of our Commander 3XL Hybrid. This is the first time we've gone into the gas engine Business is not the 1st gas engine drone that we've made, but in terms of doing it at scale, this is the first time that we've done it and We really, I think, nailed this particular product. And again, the pipeline not quite yet the order book yet, but The order book is significant, but that pipeline is much bigger than we expected on this thing. The other thing I wanted to mention here is we had our first Customer, what we call the Dragonflyer experience. Speaker 100:16:17So our first user event or our first customer event at our joint air center down in Texas. And that joint air center has become a real strategic differentiator for us. It's allowing us to bring in multiple groups And give them time on the stick, give them time with the software, run use case scenarios, do everything from landmine detection right through to Hostage situation right through to combat scenario, right through to policing scenarios, mapping, survey, energy inspection. It is really a differentiator for us and it's in anything of size. We're actually pushing people to go through, You know, to use the equipment and to take the training there even ahead of time because it really allows us to build a relationship with them. Speaker 100:17:02It really gets their confidence up in terms of You know what this product is, how it's been built, how it's really been thought about as pilots doing the designing and actually coming up and working with these use cases and our Customers. So we look forward to having a very, very busy year at the Joint Energy Center in Texas. But I can't stress enough the new manufacturing plants. I was asked a question today, When are we really going to see this industry scale and who is scaling in the industry? And we talked about a number of companies who have some fantastic products, But the fact is nobody yet in North America has scaled. Speaker 100:17:43It's got nothing to do with the demand signals are all there. There's no question about it. The issue is that the manufacturing base has still been so young and immature that it has not had been able to be at the point of where it can commit to And guarantee the demand signal that it's coming. Right. So you don't get a government customer that comes up and says, hey, we want 100 or 200 or 500 of these things. Speaker 100:18:08Can you produce them? Anybody can say yes, but the next thing they'll do is they will go and they will check out your facilities, check out your infrastructure, your processes, and ensure You can produce 500 in that next month or 2. And if you don't have that capacity, you don't get the order no matter how good your equipment is. So right now, the industry is all about who can produce. And so I really want to stress again, my just how impressed I am with the team that have put the new plans together, Where we stand on them and the capacity that we're now able to meet. Speaker 100:18:39On that note, I'm going to turn it over to Paul Sun, our CFO to review the Paul? Speaker 200:18:45Yes. Thanks, Ken. Thanks, everyone, for joining. Yes, here's a quick snapshot for Q3. As Ken mentioned at the outset, Q3 revenue did represent our best Q3 to date. Speaker 200:18:57Revenue for the Q3 was up 14% to 2,100,000 up from $1,800,000 in the Q3 of last year. 3rd quarter revenue comprised of $1,650,000 from product sales with Balance coming from drone services. The increase in revenue is due primarily to higher product sales versus a year ago. Gross profit, Ken mentioned $8.95 actually would have been a bit higher at $9.03 excluding a small one time cash write down of inventory. Gross margin as a percentage of revenue was 42% and would have been a little bit higher than that 42.2% this quarter, up 44.1% From Q3 of last year, the increase in gross margin as a percentage was primarily a result of sale that was using inventory that had previously been written off, which made the margin higher. Speaker 200:19:53Total comprehensive loss For the quarter was $5,500,000 compared to a comprehensive loss of $5,000,000 in the same quarter last year. This quarter includes a non cash change Surprised of a small write down of $8,600,000 of inventory and an impairment of notes receivable of $105,000 and would otherwise be a comprehensive loss of 5 $400,000 in q3 of 2022, there was a loss That included a gain in fair value of derivative liability of 305,000 and would otherwise been a loss of 5,300,000 So as a result, the year over year change in loss was minimal and mostly driven by the benefit of an FX translation from last year SG and A expenses this year was down this quarter year over year. If you can go to the next slide on Slide 10. So, yeah, we just went through year over year changes. So now we look at quarter over quarter. Speaker 200:20:54Again, For Q3, revenue was $2,100,000 increased by 12.6% compared to $1,900,000 for Q2, Due both to higher product sales and services, gross margin percentage for Q3 was 41% Due to a small inventory write down and otherwise would have been 42.2% compared to 24.6% in Q2 of this year. So on an adjusted basis, gross margin would have been up 71.5% quarter over quarter. The increase is primarily due to sales that used previously written off inventory as we just mentioned. Total comprehensive loss again for Q3 was $5,500,000 compared to a comprehensive loss of $6,900,000 in Q2 of this year. And again, we'll recall that there was a small non cash write down of inventory in Q3 and a write down of notes receivable. Speaker 200:21:53So if we excluded that loss would have been $5,400,000 while in Q2 we had a write down of inventory of 122,000. So if we excluded that, so it's a fair comp, Q2's loss would have been 6.8%. So our loss this quarter was quite a bit better quarter over quarter, primarily due to higher revenues and lower operating costs. And then on the next slide, looking at our balance sheet, You can see our total assets decreased from $14,600,000 at the end of 'twenty two to $9,100,000 which It's largely due to the use of cash. Working capital surplus at the end of this quarter was $2,700,000 versus $10,000,000 at the end of 2022 and you can see we continue to have minimal debt. Speaker 200:22:42Our company's cash balance was at $2,500,000 compared to $7,800,000 compared to December 31 last year. And as Ken mentioned at the outset, we did Complete financing for US3.5 million dollars And with that, I'll pass back to you, Ken. Speaker 100:23:02Thank you, Paul. Scott, I'll turn it over to you, if that's okay. Speaker 300:23:08Yes, thanks. We have had a, as is kind of typical for us, we get a bunch of questions that come in prior to this. And so we have a number of questions here. We'll try to get through as many of them As we can, of course, Cam has already answered, I think several of them as has Paul with regards to the numbers and the results and so forth. So but there's a few here that are different. Speaker 300:23:28Cam, I'll start with you. What are new areas that we're seeing most opportunities and kind of large opportunities In the pipeline, where did that come from? What is it within corrections, facilities, energy, scanning? Just give us a little color maybe on some of the new opportunities That we haven't seen in the past. Speaker 100:23:47Yeah. So I think the thing to note is that most of the opportunities are coming from government, One form or the other. So we certainly have a nice flow of inbound commercial that are Working through the system that we've obviously closed a few of them. But if we look at the systems that we have closed and if we look at Our order book that we know that we have and those very sizable mutal movers now that we'll be pushing through our production They're all government. I just say, oh, they're 90% government based. Speaker 100:24:20So that wasn't as predominant before In terms of the pipeline, but that's what is coming through on the close. And from that, it's lots of agency work and The vast majority of it now is military work. So whether it's airborne or Army or Air Force or Marines or like All of those different groups and they all have sizable orders. They really like utilizing the air center that we have. And Yes, that's it's not uncommon to history where we see that the military adoption really set the tone and build the use case For what that also then comes in the commercial sector as well. Speaker 300:25:02Okay. Can you provide a little bit of an update on the production facility in Saskatoon? You did talk about it, but maybe a little more color. What's the capacity supply chain issues that have come up in the past? Maybe a little more commentary on some of those issues. Speaker 100:25:18Yes. So I think Paul Mullen and team have done an excellent Job, in terms of the design of the product right from the ground up from years a few years ago when we started working through our plan And around the design that we had to have so that we ensure that we weren't going to be in a situation where we were already dependent on the supply chain that we didn't have some sort of management influence or Swappable equipment or processes too. So with the advent of the new plant in Saskatoon in particular, We've now even eliminated that more because of the actual manufacturing additional capabilities that we've built in there. So our plants organically should be able to do $45,000,000 a year worth of production. And beyond that, We can push everything out to contract engineering. Speaker 100:26:09You need your initial couple of plants at least to be able to do those types of numbers and get your certification Your ISOs and build your prototypes and get your initial production runs off before you can be in a position to put The contract engineering. So we feel we're at that spot now where we can scale. And at least me personally, I have confidence That will be running at full capacity this coming year. Speaker 300:26:35Any more news or updates on Ukraine, is it still a focus? Hasn't been a whole lot in the last little bit. What do you see the next 3 to 6 months look like both from a UAV standpoint and perhaps how Dragonfly fits into the mix? Speaker 100:26:49Yes. So initially, we were quite focused on humanitarian efforts and very Pleased to do that. As that conflict has matured, the type of drone that is in theater there has also matured Significantly. So a drone that we would have put into that environment within the 1st few months or even 6 months Of that scenario, we're in the last 10 minutes there now. I mean, it's just the level of sophistication around Jamming and radio frequency skipping and GPS denied environment and such like that. Speaker 100:27:24I think Ukraine potentially in terms of a news factor has been overshadowed as of recent because of the unfortunate events in the Middle East. But the demand for drones is actually increasing. And the amount of people that have a level of sophistication To know what they need to buy and what they want to buy is increasing significantly as well. The testing environments are being standardized. So we see things like demining being A multi decade opportunity for Dragonfly there. Speaker 100:27:55ISR work is something that we're very active with and that Market is absolutely growing, but utilizing the Commander 3XL for dual purpose so that it's ISR as well as other potential combat scenarios is really a big appeal for that market. So we're very active. We're a little quieter than we I have been over there for probably some good reasons, but that is Still the biggest immediate drone market in the world that we're actively engaged in. Speaker 300:28:31Any plans on reducing cost expenses going forward? Speaker 100:28:34Yeah, absolutely. We actually have gone through A cost reduction exercise. It started a bit last quarter and we saw that in the numbers. We were able to implement that On many levels here very recently. And a big part of why we were able to do that, I believe without losing any operational efficiency is because we have very clear visibility with our order book now. Speaker 100:29:03Let's talk about a year ago. A year ago, there are 15 markets or 15 verticals that You're trying to capture which is going to be the biggest, which is moving the fastest, which has the greatest opportunity, which is regulatory, has regulatory impact, Etcetera, etcetera. And so you're moving through those. At the same time, we're building out plant capacity and trying to be very careful about where we place the Specifics of that plant capacity in terms of resources because we're not sure exactly what which one eventually 5 years from now these will all have popped and been incredible markets. But as you're working through the startup phase and through the scale phase, where do you actually put those resources to make sure that you're not trying to do everything to everybody? Speaker 100:29:44Well, we've gone through that in this last year and we now have a very clear idea because we have the order book to support it as to where we can put those resources. So what that's allowed us to do Is prudently go through some cost reduction exercises, but actually be able to do it in a way where we go, okay, we can make a rational judgment here This cost is okay to let go right now because the opportunity over here doesn't cost us by not going after A bit more aggressively. So we're able to measure opportunity costs now and be more focused in the approach that we have in the very specific markets that we're going after. Speaker 300:30:21A few more here for sure. A few more good ones actually. Comment on current business with Windfall. We mentioned it this on the last earnings call, things are moving up ahead. Any updates there? Speaker 300:30:34What does it look like? Obviously, we're not giving guidance here, but maybe a couple of thoughts or comments On some of the downstream stuff, particularly within the mining sector that we do with Windfall Geotech. Speaker 100:30:45Yes, we're absolutely committed And understand clearly that we are an important player in the data world. And in fact, I would suggest that over time Dragonfly We'll be a data company. I mean, we'll always be known as a drone company. Our advantage being is that we can customize drones and sensors in order to collect Data for our customers that maybe others can't, right, which is really the strategic differentiator for our customer. Again, whether that's a commercial and energy, Government and military, it's all about in many respects the quality of that data. Speaker 100:31:17And so because of our integrated approach and capabilities, That is a major strategic differentiator for us going forward. So mining is one of those first areas that allows us to collect data and provide it back to the customer that other people Necessarily haven't been able to collect. So I'm not at liberty right now to speak specifically about windfall, But I can say that it is a very robust market and it is an absolute focus for us In the commercial market, mining in particular and mining data. It will be a template For how data is collected and used and how AI is employed into other markets. Mining will lead that way. Speaker 100:32:05Windfall has got an incredible platform That we're building on and again where last quarter I could have talked about an order book, excuse me, last quarter I could have talked about a pipeline With Windfall, next quarter we're in, we'll be able to talk about an order book. So we're really excited about what's happening there. Speaker 300:32:24When Dragonfly goes to drone conferences and UAV shows and things like that, How do you see the competitive mix between Dragonfly and some of the other drone companies? Where do we see And if the company fits into this, what are some of the other things that other companies are doing that Dragon might want to emanate In the future, copy in the future. Maybe give a little color and context in terms of how we fit into the market. Speaker 100:32:51Yes, there's incredible creativity and Power in this space and I never want to profess we're even closest to the smartest folks out there. Every time I go to a show or I get to meet other folks in the drone space, it's It's like, wow, where did you come up with that? And how did you think about that? Like really, really stuff that just like grabs you and just goes like that. It's really impressive. Speaker 100:33:14I think some of the differentiator in particular around Dragonfly having been around so long is that The objects that we chase are customer driven. And so there's a lot of shiny objects that we don't go after. And because we know that they're not going to have a production capacity either in terms of being able to be produced or have a demand signal Where it might be the coolest thing in the world, but it might be a $2,000,000 market, right? Or it might be a $20,000,000 market, but that's 5 years from now. So I think we really, over the last number of years, one could have argued 5 years, 6 years ago That our drone capability was minimal and it certainly compared to what it is today, it was. Speaker 100:34:02But we were still in the drone business producing drones where no other North American manufacturer to speak of was there. But we were doing contract engineering for The military contractors, we were doing really interesting projects in academia and getting paid for it. So we've been able to move with the market. And now what we see is that the market is ready to scale and have production. And I think that we're meeting that right there where it's at. Speaker 100:34:29So I also think that we're very focused on utility type drones as opposed to 1, the coolest, latest thing Or kind of like the smaller backpack type drone. I think that's a very competitive market. We do build those off of our workbenches, but off our production line, That's a pretty tough low margin business to be in unless you've got something really strategic. And we think we do. And some of that will happen in time, but the demand signal is just not quite there yet. Speaker 300:35:03There's been another a number of other drone companies that have closed down. We keep hearing reports about that in the market. Are we getting to consolidation? Where does Dragonfly fit into that mix? Are we looking at other kind of opportunities for companies that have Wound down, closed down, signed technology. Speaker 300:35:23What does that look like? And I think this is the last question, by the way. So go ahead and answer that. Speaker 100:35:29Yeah. Walking the floor at the last CUAV show, it seemed to be kind of like a reoccurring theme. It was like half these companies aren't going to be here next year type of thing. So, yes, there's definitely consolidation in the industry. The commercial market has taken to adopt and get there again, right, for about the 4th or 5th time in the cycle. Speaker 100:35:53And the difference here is, though, is that the regulations are much further along and we are seeing commercial The second and the bigger difference that's come to the forefront is the fact that the military market is now not just prevalent, it's just overwhelming. The challenge for companies that generally, not all, but generally haven't been around for a long time or gone through a bunch of the rigor that's required in order To sell into government type customers, military in particular, is that it doesn't matter if you've got the greatest whiz bang. And if you can't like I mean sizable production and all those types of things, it's just not a viable product for those types of customers. So we're going to see consolidation. We're very focused on organic growth right now. Speaker 100:36:37Our hands are full. We don't need to do an acquisition. We don't need to bolster sale. We don't need to do any of that. We just need to execute on what's in front of us right now and we'll Be a standout in terms of scale. Speaker 100:36:51And I think likely there's a couple of others out there that might be in that same position. I'm speculating a little bit, But I could speak with confidence that that's where we're going. Not that we're opposed to acquisitions at all. But given where some of the valuations are right now And given where the market is going and given what we need to do organically just to meet demand, we're probably not looking at acquisitions at the time frame. Now That said, something's going to come up in 2 quarters. Speaker 100:37:16You know, we're going to announce one, but we don't but there's nothing imminently that we're on right now about it. Speaker 300:37:22Okay. Well, that's the list of questions. I will send it back to you to adjourn the meeting, wrap it up, and then That'll be it for this shareholder call. Speaker 100:37:34Thank you everybody for taking the time. We went this time without taking the live We got a bunch of feedback that it seemed quite distracting, actually. So we really encourage I love the live Piece of it. So we'll look to see some feedback and if we revert back to that or not next time. But by all means, don't be afraid to reach out to us. Speaker 100:37:55Rolly is always available. The rest of the executive will certainly do their best to respond quickly as well. First and foremost, I'd like to thank our employees For sticking with us. It's been a real grind and we've gone through some cost reduction stuff as well at the same time that we're scaling the business. 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There are 4 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Earnings Call. My name is Rolly Bustos. And while I know most of you, I remind all others that I am the internal Investor Relations representative here at Dragonfly. We appreciate you joining us today. We'll start as usual with our CEO and President, Cameron Schell, discussing the Q3 operational highlights. Operator00:00:18From there, our CFO, Paul Sun, will discuss the financials. And as always, we will conclude with our Lead Director, Scott Larsen, facilitating the Q and A portion. You are welcome to reach out to me individually after the call at investor. Relationsdragonfly.com. Once again, I remind everyone that this presentation may include forward looking information and statements. Operator00:00:41These statements are not guarantees of future performance or financial results and undue reliance should not be placed on them. Any future events or financial results may differ from what might be discussed here. A forward looking disclaimer can be found on Page 2 of this presentation, and I'd be happy to send that to anybody upon request. So, Kam, please go ahead. Speaker 100:01:04Thanks, Ruili. Thanks to other members of the management and executive for being here. I know we also have multiple customers, partners attending and most prominently thanks to our shareholders for being here today. I'm pleased to announce that we have just had a record quarter in 2023 On revenues of $2,138,000,000 with product sales of $1,600,000 and provision of services of just under $500,000 Also exciting to report is our gross margin of just under 42%. So we had a gross profit this last quarter of $894,000 Our cash balance at the end of the quarter was $2,400,000 We did a subsequent financing of $4,500,000 which closed on October 30. Speaker 100:02:02I think most notably in this as it relates to the revenue is that Our two plants are now up and operational. We finished the second plant And just turned it on in Q3. And I think we've started to see that now production flow off of the benches and off of the line. And if you've been really good about how we're now going to be able to satisfy the order book and start to see scale. I think it's really important to note the world and geopolitical situation and really what's happening in the drone space as it relates specifically to scale. Speaker 100:02:46So we have in the past talked about The scaling of the commercial industry and how it's really starting to come into its own with first the advent of many regulations, but most prominently beyond visual line of sight. But a little around 2 years ago now, as the Ukraine conflict broke out, The reality is that small UAVs have proven incredibly effective In the theater of conflict and defense, so much so that the entire strategy and tactics around air dominance Has shifted. So previously, Air Dominance was all about large manned systems, integrated communications, AWAC system, Integrated data analysis and real time impact analysis. And today from 5,000 feet down, Air dominance is all about small UAV. So almost regardless of the mass and the size of the manned and large infrastructure air dominance that we've known or Come to know in the defense field, if in a given area you're putting up multiples of small UAVs, You will have strategic advantage and tactical dominance on your area of operation. Speaker 100:04:08And that is a significant change. Now, we've kind of been preaching that this would happen for years, but it took the unfortunate conflict in Ukraine for this to become completely understood. So, we're now seeing So we're now seeing budgets, massive budgets from the NATO countries. Those are the ones that we have visibility with that NATO and Friendly countries Are now moving not just to autonomy, but certainly to autonomy, but predominantly within that autonomy, they're moving to air autonomy Because again, that is where you can establish dominance for the most part. So whether it's Eastern Europe, whether it's the unfortunate circumstances in the Middle East, Whether it's the incredible burgeoning market of border security in Africa that now can afford to do border security because they don't have to build air forces Or satellite comms or satellite observation to be able to do it. Speaker 100:05:00So we see huge opportunities now in that market as it relates to border security And small UAVs or the Southeast Asia theater, including Taiwan and the potential challenges around Territorial disputes and such with China, it is absolutely being dominated by UAV Discussions. To speak to this a little bit, approximately looking at about $20,000,000,000 of growth between now and 2,030 In the small UAV market, this is being led by Defense. So rather than large infrastructure systems, Defense is now looking to put in Tens of thousands of swarms of drones in order to counterbalance the threats that may be Out there and the efficiencies that come along with these small relatively inexpensive units. So Defense Innovation Unit announced the Replicator program. This is a Pentagon program dedicated to Basically deploying tens of thousands of drones in the next couple of years of various sizes. Speaker 100:06:11So these will range from The category 3 all the way down in category 1, probably more focused around category 2 and category 3, which we play in. And we're really excited about what these opportunities are. And we have seen a marked increase in pipeline, which we think we'll be adding to our order flow here shortly. I think it's a really important note within the space. So you can see by our product, the products that we have built historically and that we have in market now and the type of work that we've done with our contract engineering division and the personnel that we have. Speaker 100:06:48Up into the right, that's AI and military type of Operations down into the left is consumer toy type drones. And so you can see that our Dragonfly 3 XL drone, our search and rescue drones are heavy lift They are all skewing up into the right. And so, of course, we don't play in the pure military space. We play in the commercialmilitary space. Now, Whether by design or by luck, this is the space that the military is looking to pull from, right? Speaker 100:07:17It's from the consumer space, the ability for Not the consumer space, the commercial space. The ability for militaries to tap into the commercial manufacturers who are now starting to gain some scale, including Dragonfly. In fact, I would say led by Dragonfly that have the ability to field and deploy this type of equipment and do rapid innovation, Iteration and production in order to meet the demands of this market. This is what's won the day in the Ukraine theater. This seems to be what we'll be pushing forward on the agenda in the other theatres as well, proven by data and proven By actually what we've seen happen in the Ukraine where again Dragonfly has had the fortunate opportunity to be very active. Speaker 100:08:02Just taking a quick look at our products here. We've got our heavy lift drone. This is about a 9 foot across drone, carries £70. It's got a 50 minute Operational flight time, it can be used for multiple types of operations, whether it's sensor, ISR, delivery. Even in the commercial space, this is being used in wildfire type of situations to carry in equipment, It's carrying chainsaws as is the 3 XL to the first to the right there. Speaker 100:08:32Now this last quarter we did introduce 3 XL Hybrid. We've got incredible demand on this hybrid. So basically what happened is we built the 3 XL and our customers, in particular military Pipeline came back and said we need this drone, but we need it in a format that can fly for 3 plus hours. And so we designed along with a partner of 70 cc engine that integrates onto the 3 XL And can provide up to 3 hour flight times with an additional 4 kilograms, that's just under £9 of payload. So it's got lots of sensor capability, it's got lots of Payload and ordinance capability still at that weight. Speaker 100:09:14It can actually go longer than that if you make the payload gasoline as well. So you could fly this thing for 8 plus hours. So it's potentially everything from a lawyer to remunition to a very sophisticated ISR platform. The precision dropdown We introduced that in Q2. We've now see orders happening in Q3 for it and pushing into Q4. Speaker 100:09:34This has got lots of applications, both commercial And military right below that is a quick delivery quick release delivery box. Important to note on this box is really the innovations around this box that allow for a number of other military applications to happen, but this is built on top of the medical delivery platform, that we introduced into the market about a year and a half ago. The Starling X2 drone is getting terrific traction. There are a number of pre orders Coming in, we have not officially recorded on our books any of those orders as of yet, but we're basically in a position now to start the production on those and great work to the promo drone tree and this will have an impact for us come Q1 and Q2. And then obviously the Commander 3XL, this base platform that was designed by our product team and engineers really isn't a category by itself. Speaker 100:10:28It's not that small type of ISR drill. It's a very competitive market. Not that we don't make those on our workbenches, but on our production line, This is the area that we're focusing on a bit more category 2 ish and up and above between this and the heavy lift To be able to provide longer battery life, multiple different sensors, we've got dozens and dozens and dozens of different integrations that are built For this drone, it's really that multipurpose drone that can be used for anything from ISR through to delivery of any type of almost imaginable payload That you can think through. And it's really just a big flying battery. That's really everything ends and begins and ends with your design Of the battery. Speaker 100:11:10So lots of other product initiatives that are happening. They're all customer driven, but this platform is really what's launching us right now. Some operational highlights for the last quarter. We secured the first defense orders for the Commander 3XL With the US military and it's being utilized to enhance mission success, in particular in GPS denied environments. So incredibly important and incredibly tax You need a very robust platform in order to house all of the additional equipment sensors, radios, shields, And TANIS, etcetera, in order to operate in those environments. Speaker 100:11:48So really thrilled that we were selected in this regard. And we are engaged at multiple levels With multiple militaries and divisions of at our training center going through testing and preparing for the specs to We were also selected by a state geological survey. Now this is important on lots of reasons because that geological Survey is a heavy lift in terms of the battery requirement and the sensors that they are using. And it is helping standardize this drone for this type of work across the other State geological survey organizations. Now again, in order to do this, You have to be an NDAA compliant drone. Speaker 100:12:34You have to have met stringent Testing requirements, cybersecurity requirements in order to demonstrate that you don't have the security breach And such, I know there's a lot of talk about, oh, you have to be Blue UAS, you have to be this. We've been selling into these environments, not necessarily the military, but into Agencies for years. So though we're not necessarily on the blue UAS list, we are able to sell into these markets because of our Past history and because of our NDAA compliance and because we have that proven track record. That said, we are working diligently As it relates to Green UAS and expect those types of certifications to follow as well. We had a very significant sale this last quarter into the And as many people would know, the corrections market for the drone industry is significant. Speaker 100:13:28We do believe that this is probably the largest sale of equipment into the corrections industry to date. And our pipeline, though it's not represented yet In our order book, our pipeline is very, very robust in the corrections market. And that would be both drone and counter drone Technology as well as our Vital Intelligence technology, which provides health monitoring simply through the camera for prison populations and intake protocol. We also, this last quarter, went to work for the Canadian governments, In particular, a provincial government that had over 300 wildfires raging at one particular time. And so we've signed a multi year contract with that province where we're providing crews and our drones in order to provide visual oversight, Hotspotting, thermal flights at night to check for ground fires. Speaker 100:14:25Next year, we're moving into equipment delivery. Really have quickly become a leader in this space with operational experience and setting the standard and standard operating In order to expand this to other provinces as well as several states that we were in discussions with. So we do expect unfortunately a very robust Fire season next year with multiple engagements happening throughout North America. A leader in the energy research Industry has standardized an association has also standardized on the Commander 3XL drone. And this is really important because This particular customer is responsible for making the recommendation of how they inspect their infrastructure nationwide And having them have standardized on the Commander 3 XL drone is a significant win for us because as we prove that platform out with them over the In this next 6 or 8 months, it presumably and hopefully will become that recommendation. Speaker 100:15:25I think we're well down that path to the rest of the industry in this particular energy industry, which has a potential of 1,000 of roles annually. A couple of the last few operational highlights that I'll just Mention is certainly the unveiling of our Commander 3XL Hybrid. This is the first time we've gone into the gas engine Business is not the 1st gas engine drone that we've made, but in terms of doing it at scale, this is the first time that we've done it and We really, I think, nailed this particular product. And again, the pipeline not quite yet the order book yet, but The order book is significant, but that pipeline is much bigger than we expected on this thing. The other thing I wanted to mention here is we had our first Customer, what we call the Dragonflyer experience. Speaker 100:16:17So our first user event or our first customer event at our joint air center down in Texas. And that joint air center has become a real strategic differentiator for us. It's allowing us to bring in multiple groups And give them time on the stick, give them time with the software, run use case scenarios, do everything from landmine detection right through to Hostage situation right through to combat scenario, right through to policing scenarios, mapping, survey, energy inspection. It is really a differentiator for us and it's in anything of size. We're actually pushing people to go through, You know, to use the equipment and to take the training there even ahead of time because it really allows us to build a relationship with them. Speaker 100:17:02It really gets their confidence up in terms of You know what this product is, how it's been built, how it's really been thought about as pilots doing the designing and actually coming up and working with these use cases and our Customers. So we look forward to having a very, very busy year at the Joint Energy Center in Texas. But I can't stress enough the new manufacturing plants. I was asked a question today, When are we really going to see this industry scale and who is scaling in the industry? And we talked about a number of companies who have some fantastic products, But the fact is nobody yet in North America has scaled. Speaker 100:17:43It's got nothing to do with the demand signals are all there. There's no question about it. The issue is that the manufacturing base has still been so young and immature that it has not had been able to be at the point of where it can commit to And guarantee the demand signal that it's coming. Right. So you don't get a government customer that comes up and says, hey, we want 100 or 200 or 500 of these things. Speaker 100:18:08Can you produce them? Anybody can say yes, but the next thing they'll do is they will go and they will check out your facilities, check out your infrastructure, your processes, and ensure You can produce 500 in that next month or 2. And if you don't have that capacity, you don't get the order no matter how good your equipment is. So right now, the industry is all about who can produce. And so I really want to stress again, my just how impressed I am with the team that have put the new plans together, Where we stand on them and the capacity that we're now able to meet. Speaker 100:18:39On that note, I'm going to turn it over to Paul Sun, our CFO to review the Paul? Speaker 200:18:45Yes. Thanks, Ken. Thanks, everyone, for joining. Yes, here's a quick snapshot for Q3. As Ken mentioned at the outset, Q3 revenue did represent our best Q3 to date. Speaker 200:18:57Revenue for the Q3 was up 14% to 2,100,000 up from $1,800,000 in the Q3 of last year. 3rd quarter revenue comprised of $1,650,000 from product sales with Balance coming from drone services. The increase in revenue is due primarily to higher product sales versus a year ago. Gross profit, Ken mentioned $8.95 actually would have been a bit higher at $9.03 excluding a small one time cash write down of inventory. Gross margin as a percentage of revenue was 42% and would have been a little bit higher than that 42.2% this quarter, up 44.1% From Q3 of last year, the increase in gross margin as a percentage was primarily a result of sale that was using inventory that had previously been written off, which made the margin higher. Speaker 200:19:53Total comprehensive loss For the quarter was $5,500,000 compared to a comprehensive loss of $5,000,000 in the same quarter last year. This quarter includes a non cash change Surprised of a small write down of $8,600,000 of inventory and an impairment of notes receivable of $105,000 and would otherwise be a comprehensive loss of 5 $400,000 in q3 of 2022, there was a loss That included a gain in fair value of derivative liability of 305,000 and would otherwise been a loss of 5,300,000 So as a result, the year over year change in loss was minimal and mostly driven by the benefit of an FX translation from last year SG and A expenses this year was down this quarter year over year. If you can go to the next slide on Slide 10. So, yeah, we just went through year over year changes. So now we look at quarter over quarter. Speaker 200:20:54Again, For Q3, revenue was $2,100,000 increased by 12.6% compared to $1,900,000 for Q2, Due both to higher product sales and services, gross margin percentage for Q3 was 41% Due to a small inventory write down and otherwise would have been 42.2% compared to 24.6% in Q2 of this year. So on an adjusted basis, gross margin would have been up 71.5% quarter over quarter. The increase is primarily due to sales that used previously written off inventory as we just mentioned. Total comprehensive loss again for Q3 was $5,500,000 compared to a comprehensive loss of $6,900,000 in Q2 of this year. And again, we'll recall that there was a small non cash write down of inventory in Q3 and a write down of notes receivable. Speaker 200:21:53So if we excluded that loss would have been $5,400,000 while in Q2 we had a write down of inventory of 122,000. So if we excluded that, so it's a fair comp, Q2's loss would have been 6.8%. So our loss this quarter was quite a bit better quarter over quarter, primarily due to higher revenues and lower operating costs. And then on the next slide, looking at our balance sheet, You can see our total assets decreased from $14,600,000 at the end of 'twenty two to $9,100,000 which It's largely due to the use of cash. Working capital surplus at the end of this quarter was $2,700,000 versus $10,000,000 at the end of 2022 and you can see we continue to have minimal debt. Speaker 200:22:42Our company's cash balance was at $2,500,000 compared to $7,800,000 compared to December 31 last year. And as Ken mentioned at the outset, we did Complete financing for US3.5 million dollars And with that, I'll pass back to you, Ken. Speaker 100:23:02Thank you, Paul. Scott, I'll turn it over to you, if that's okay. Speaker 300:23:08Yes, thanks. We have had a, as is kind of typical for us, we get a bunch of questions that come in prior to this. And so we have a number of questions here. We'll try to get through as many of them As we can, of course, Cam has already answered, I think several of them as has Paul with regards to the numbers and the results and so forth. So but there's a few here that are different. Speaker 300:23:28Cam, I'll start with you. What are new areas that we're seeing most opportunities and kind of large opportunities In the pipeline, where did that come from? What is it within corrections, facilities, energy, scanning? Just give us a little color maybe on some of the new opportunities That we haven't seen in the past. Speaker 100:23:47Yeah. So I think the thing to note is that most of the opportunities are coming from government, One form or the other. So we certainly have a nice flow of inbound commercial that are Working through the system that we've obviously closed a few of them. But if we look at the systems that we have closed and if we look at Our order book that we know that we have and those very sizable mutal movers now that we'll be pushing through our production They're all government. I just say, oh, they're 90% government based. Speaker 100:24:20So that wasn't as predominant before In terms of the pipeline, but that's what is coming through on the close. And from that, it's lots of agency work and The vast majority of it now is military work. So whether it's airborne or Army or Air Force or Marines or like All of those different groups and they all have sizable orders. They really like utilizing the air center that we have. And Yes, that's it's not uncommon to history where we see that the military adoption really set the tone and build the use case For what that also then comes in the commercial sector as well. Speaker 300:25:02Okay. Can you provide a little bit of an update on the production facility in Saskatoon? You did talk about it, but maybe a little more color. What's the capacity supply chain issues that have come up in the past? Maybe a little more commentary on some of those issues. Speaker 100:25:18Yes. So I think Paul Mullen and team have done an excellent Job, in terms of the design of the product right from the ground up from years a few years ago when we started working through our plan And around the design that we had to have so that we ensure that we weren't going to be in a situation where we were already dependent on the supply chain that we didn't have some sort of management influence or Swappable equipment or processes too. So with the advent of the new plant in Saskatoon in particular, We've now even eliminated that more because of the actual manufacturing additional capabilities that we've built in there. So our plants organically should be able to do $45,000,000 a year worth of production. And beyond that, We can push everything out to contract engineering. Speaker 100:26:09You need your initial couple of plants at least to be able to do those types of numbers and get your certification Your ISOs and build your prototypes and get your initial production runs off before you can be in a position to put The contract engineering. So we feel we're at that spot now where we can scale. And at least me personally, I have confidence That will be running at full capacity this coming year. Speaker 300:26:35Any more news or updates on Ukraine, is it still a focus? Hasn't been a whole lot in the last little bit. What do you see the next 3 to 6 months look like both from a UAV standpoint and perhaps how Dragonfly fits into the mix? Speaker 100:26:49Yes. So initially, we were quite focused on humanitarian efforts and very Pleased to do that. As that conflict has matured, the type of drone that is in theater there has also matured Significantly. So a drone that we would have put into that environment within the 1st few months or even 6 months Of that scenario, we're in the last 10 minutes there now. I mean, it's just the level of sophistication around Jamming and radio frequency skipping and GPS denied environment and such like that. Speaker 100:27:24I think Ukraine potentially in terms of a news factor has been overshadowed as of recent because of the unfortunate events in the Middle East. But the demand for drones is actually increasing. And the amount of people that have a level of sophistication To know what they need to buy and what they want to buy is increasing significantly as well. The testing environments are being standardized. So we see things like demining being A multi decade opportunity for Dragonfly there. Speaker 100:27:55ISR work is something that we're very active with and that Market is absolutely growing, but utilizing the Commander 3XL for dual purpose so that it's ISR as well as other potential combat scenarios is really a big appeal for that market. So we're very active. We're a little quieter than we I have been over there for probably some good reasons, but that is Still the biggest immediate drone market in the world that we're actively engaged in. Speaker 300:28:31Any plans on reducing cost expenses going forward? Speaker 100:28:34Yeah, absolutely. We actually have gone through A cost reduction exercise. It started a bit last quarter and we saw that in the numbers. We were able to implement that On many levels here very recently. And a big part of why we were able to do that, I believe without losing any operational efficiency is because we have very clear visibility with our order book now. Speaker 100:29:03Let's talk about a year ago. A year ago, there are 15 markets or 15 verticals that You're trying to capture which is going to be the biggest, which is moving the fastest, which has the greatest opportunity, which is regulatory, has regulatory impact, Etcetera, etcetera. And so you're moving through those. At the same time, we're building out plant capacity and trying to be very careful about where we place the Specifics of that plant capacity in terms of resources because we're not sure exactly what which one eventually 5 years from now these will all have popped and been incredible markets. But as you're working through the startup phase and through the scale phase, where do you actually put those resources to make sure that you're not trying to do everything to everybody? Speaker 100:29:44Well, we've gone through that in this last year and we now have a very clear idea because we have the order book to support it as to where we can put those resources. So what that's allowed us to do Is prudently go through some cost reduction exercises, but actually be able to do it in a way where we go, okay, we can make a rational judgment here This cost is okay to let go right now because the opportunity over here doesn't cost us by not going after A bit more aggressively. So we're able to measure opportunity costs now and be more focused in the approach that we have in the very specific markets that we're going after. Speaker 300:30:21A few more here for sure. A few more good ones actually. Comment on current business with Windfall. We mentioned it this on the last earnings call, things are moving up ahead. Any updates there? Speaker 300:30:34What does it look like? Obviously, we're not giving guidance here, but maybe a couple of thoughts or comments On some of the downstream stuff, particularly within the mining sector that we do with Windfall Geotech. Speaker 100:30:45Yes, we're absolutely committed And understand clearly that we are an important player in the data world. And in fact, I would suggest that over time Dragonfly We'll be a data company. I mean, we'll always be known as a drone company. Our advantage being is that we can customize drones and sensors in order to collect Data for our customers that maybe others can't, right, which is really the strategic differentiator for our customer. Again, whether that's a commercial and energy, Government and military, it's all about in many respects the quality of that data. Speaker 100:31:17And so because of our integrated approach and capabilities, That is a major strategic differentiator for us going forward. So mining is one of those first areas that allows us to collect data and provide it back to the customer that other people Necessarily haven't been able to collect. So I'm not at liberty right now to speak specifically about windfall, But I can say that it is a very robust market and it is an absolute focus for us In the commercial market, mining in particular and mining data. It will be a template For how data is collected and used and how AI is employed into other markets. Mining will lead that way. Speaker 100:32:05Windfall has got an incredible platform That we're building on and again where last quarter I could have talked about an order book, excuse me, last quarter I could have talked about a pipeline With Windfall, next quarter we're in, we'll be able to talk about an order book. So we're really excited about what's happening there. Speaker 300:32:24When Dragonfly goes to drone conferences and UAV shows and things like that, How do you see the competitive mix between Dragonfly and some of the other drone companies? Where do we see And if the company fits into this, what are some of the other things that other companies are doing that Dragon might want to emanate In the future, copy in the future. Maybe give a little color and context in terms of how we fit into the market. Speaker 100:32:51Yes, there's incredible creativity and Power in this space and I never want to profess we're even closest to the smartest folks out there. Every time I go to a show or I get to meet other folks in the drone space, it's It's like, wow, where did you come up with that? And how did you think about that? Like really, really stuff that just like grabs you and just goes like that. It's really impressive. Speaker 100:33:14I think some of the differentiator in particular around Dragonfly having been around so long is that The objects that we chase are customer driven. And so there's a lot of shiny objects that we don't go after. And because we know that they're not going to have a production capacity either in terms of being able to be produced or have a demand signal Where it might be the coolest thing in the world, but it might be a $2,000,000 market, right? Or it might be a $20,000,000 market, but that's 5 years from now. So I think we really, over the last number of years, one could have argued 5 years, 6 years ago That our drone capability was minimal and it certainly compared to what it is today, it was. Speaker 100:34:02But we were still in the drone business producing drones where no other North American manufacturer to speak of was there. But we were doing contract engineering for The military contractors, we were doing really interesting projects in academia and getting paid for it. So we've been able to move with the market. And now what we see is that the market is ready to scale and have production. And I think that we're meeting that right there where it's at. Speaker 100:34:29So I also think that we're very focused on utility type drones as opposed to 1, the coolest, latest thing Or kind of like the smaller backpack type drone. I think that's a very competitive market. We do build those off of our workbenches, but off our production line, That's a pretty tough low margin business to be in unless you've got something really strategic. And we think we do. And some of that will happen in time, but the demand signal is just not quite there yet. Speaker 300:35:03There's been another a number of other drone companies that have closed down. We keep hearing reports about that in the market. Are we getting to consolidation? Where does Dragonfly fit into that mix? Are we looking at other kind of opportunities for companies that have Wound down, closed down, signed technology. Speaker 300:35:23What does that look like? And I think this is the last question, by the way. So go ahead and answer that. Speaker 100:35:29Yeah. Walking the floor at the last CUAV show, it seemed to be kind of like a reoccurring theme. It was like half these companies aren't going to be here next year type of thing. So, yes, there's definitely consolidation in the industry. The commercial market has taken to adopt and get there again, right, for about the 4th or 5th time in the cycle. Speaker 100:35:53And the difference here is, though, is that the regulations are much further along and we are seeing commercial The second and the bigger difference that's come to the forefront is the fact that the military market is now not just prevalent, it's just overwhelming. The challenge for companies that generally, not all, but generally haven't been around for a long time or gone through a bunch of the rigor that's required in order To sell into government type customers, military in particular, is that it doesn't matter if you've got the greatest whiz bang. And if you can't like I mean sizable production and all those types of things, it's just not a viable product for those types of customers. So we're going to see consolidation. We're very focused on organic growth right now. Speaker 100:36:37Our hands are full. We don't need to do an acquisition. We don't need to bolster sale. We don't need to do any of that. We just need to execute on what's in front of us right now and we'll Be a standout in terms of scale. Speaker 100:36:51And I think likely there's a couple of others out there that might be in that same position. I'm speculating a little bit, But I could speak with confidence that that's where we're going. Not that we're opposed to acquisitions at all. But given where some of the valuations are right now And given where the market is going and given what we need to do organically just to meet demand, we're probably not looking at acquisitions at the time frame. Now That said, something's going to come up in 2 quarters. Speaker 100:37:16You know, we're going to announce one, but we don't but there's nothing imminently that we're on right now about it. Speaker 300:37:22Okay. Well, that's the list of questions. I will send it back to you to adjourn the meeting, wrap it up, and then That'll be it for this shareholder call. Speaker 100:37:34Thank you everybody for taking the time. We went this time without taking the live We got a bunch of feedback that it seemed quite distracting, actually. So we really encourage I love the live Piece of it. So we'll look to see some feedback and if we revert back to that or not next time. But by all means, don't be afraid to reach out to us. Speaker 100:37:55Rolly is always available. The rest of the executive will certainly do their best to respond quickly as well. First and foremost, I'd like to thank our employees For sticking with us. It's been a real grind and we've gone through some cost reduction stuff as well at the same time that we're scaling the business. So thank you for your time, trust and patience to our customers. Speaker 100:38:18Our business is all about you. And so thanks for Your time, trust and patience and our shareholders will look to work hard to create shareholder value for you. So thank you for your time today and we look forward to a great quarter coming up.Read moreRemove AdsPowered by