Perrigo Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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March 1, 2023

There are 13 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Loews Company's 4th Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Rob, and I'll be your operator for today's call. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Kate Perlman, Vice President of Investor Relations and Treasurer.

Speaker 1

Thank you, and good morning. Here with me today are Marvin Ellison, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Bill Boltz, our Executive Vice President, Merchandising Joe McFarlane, our Executive Vice President, Stores and Brandon Sink, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. I would like to remind you that our notice regarding Forward looking statements is included in our press release this morning, which can be found on Lowe's Investor Relations website. During this call, we will be making comments that are forward looking, including our expectations for fiscal 2023. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied as a result of various risks, uncertainties and important factors, including those discussed in the Risk Factors, MD and A and other sections of our Annual Report on Form 10 ks and our other SEC filings.

Speaker 1

Additionally, we'll be discussing certain non GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of these items to U. S. GAAP can be found on the Quarterly Earnings section of our Investor Relations website. Now, I'll turn the call over to Martin.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Kate, and good morning, everyone. In the Q4, our total company comparable sales declined 1.5%, While US comps decreased 0.7%, for the quarter, commodity deflation impacted US comps by 75 basis points. Our investments in the Pro customers continue to pay dividends for the company, reflected by our continued strong pro sales in the 4th quarter. In fact, this is the 11th consecutive quarter that we've driven double digit pro growth in the U. S.

Speaker 2

Despite stronger than expected commodity deflation. And while there was continued solid DIY demand in core home improvement categories, as expected, we saw a DIY pullback on holiday gift buying. Despite a modest decrease in sales, we once again improved our adjusted operating margin, while maintaining our disciplined focus on productivity. During the quarter, adjusted operating margin expanded approximately 88 basis points, leading to adjusted diluted earnings per share of $2.28 a 28% increase compared to last year. These results cap off solid financial performance for fiscal 2022 with sales of $97,100,000,000 Adjusted operating margin of 13% and adjusted earnings per share of $13.81 up 15% over the prior year.

Speaker 2

With these results, we're awarding $220,000,000 in discretionary and profit sharing bonuses to our associates, Which includes an incremental $70,000,000 to our assistant store managers and supply chain supervisors, who hold 2 of the most critical frontline leadership roles This builds on our recent $170,000,000 investment in permanent wage increases for our frontline IOLI associates, Which went into effect in December. Since 2018, we've invested over $3,000,000,000 And as we mentioned at our December Analyst and Investor Conference, we are committed to additional frontline wage investments over the next several years, Which are contemplated in our long term targets. These compensation investments are just one reflection of our commitment to becoming the With our total home strategy as consumers remain engaged in home related activities. In Pro, we delivered U. S.

Speaker 2

Growth of 10% And 36% on a 2 year basis. We are capitalizing on our momentum with our probe by growing our MVPs, pro rewards and partnership program, building relationships through our CRM tool and continuing to enhance our product assortment to meet pro needs. One example of enhancing our Pro product assortment is the exciting news that Klein Tools will be coming back to Lowe's. We know that our pros are fiercely loyal to certain national brands, and Klein is the number one hand tool brand among electrical and HVAC professionals. This creates immediate credibility across trades.

Speaker 2

Bill will share more detail on this exciting addition to our assortment later in the call. Now, one question many of you have asked is about our Pro backlog and if they're still healthy. We're in constant communication with our pros through formal surveys, our pro counsel and countless day to day conversations. In our January survey, more than 70% of PROs stated that they were booked out the same or more compared to 2022, They remain confident in their ability to find jobs and hold on to their backlog. We believe this dynamic is being fueled by all the things we talked about Our December Analyst and Investor Conference, which includes homeowners with strong balance sheets and record levels of equity.

Speaker 2

On lowes.com, sales grew 5% on top of 11.5% growth in the Q4 of 2021, Partly due to strong appliance sales. This represents a 2 year comp of 17% and more than 11% sales penetration. We continue to remove friction from the customers' online experience, which includes adding Apple Pay this quarter to improve conversion. We're also focused on removing friction from our customers' omnichannel shopping journeys, like for appliances where customers often shop our showrooms before making their purchase We also continue to make strides in the rollout of our market delivery model for appliances and other big and bulky products. We added 2 new geographic areas this quarter, bringing us to 10 geographic regions across the country supporting more than 1,000 stores.

Speaker 2

As a reminder, in the market based delivery model, big and bulky products flow from our supply chain directly to customers' homes, replacing our inefficient Store delivery model. This delivery model is enabling us to further consolidate our industry leadership position in appliances, And it positions us for profitable growth in other big and bulky product categories like grills, riding lawnmowers and stock cabinets. Turning to Canada. We completed the sale of our Canadian retail business of Sycamore Partners this quarter. As a result, we're now solely focused On the transformation of our U.

Speaker 2

S. Business, where we estimate that we have a $1,000,000,000,000 addressable home improvement market, Enabling us to invest more into higher return opportunities to grow our business and to take market share. I'd like to extend my appreciation to the entire Canadian team for their commitment to serving our customers, and I wish them the best as they move forward under new ownership. Before I close, I'd like to share my perspective on the home improvement market. And as you know, there's a wide range of Conflicting opinions on what's going to happen in the macro environment in 2023.

Speaker 2

From our perspective, The core drivers of our business, disposable personal income, home price appreciation and the age of housing stock remain supportive. Consumer savings are still roughly $1,500,000,000,000 higher than pre pandemic, with 85% concentrated in the top 40% of income earners who are more likely to be homeowners. Homeowners continue to enjoy record levels of Equity in their homes, nearly $330,000 on average. Even if there is a modest decline in home prices, The level of equity built up during the pandemic would not be meaningfully eroded. And the housing stock continues to age with 50% of US homes Over 41 years old, the oldest since World War II.

Speaker 2

These factors, along with strong millennial household formation, Baby Boomers' increasing Given the slowdown in housing turnover is driven by higher rates and low supply rather than demand, we continue to see a nationwide trend of trading up in place With consumers opting to upgrade their existing home to meet their evolving needs. All of these dynamics give us confidence in the medium and That being said, we also know that consumers are weary of a potential recession, Which is reflected in some of the discretionary pullback we experienced during the holiday season. We're closely monitoring trends and we have a Proven playbook to pivot quickly if the macro softens. Our results in the 4th quarter demonstrate our operational agility, This gives our experienced leadership team confidence in our ability to effectively manage the business in a wide variety of macro scenarios. In closing, I'd like to thank our frontline associates for their commitment to serving customers day in and day out.

Speaker 2

As I travel the country every week visiting stores, I

Speaker 3

Thanks, Marvin, and good morning, everyone. In the Q4, U. S. Comparable sales decreased slightly by 0.7%, though sales were up 34.4 percent on a 3 year basis, reflecting continued momentum with the Pro and resilience in core DIY home improvement demand. We delivered positive comps in home decor, fueled by key categories like appliances, paint, and kitchens and bath.

Speaker 3

And we delivered strong growth in our Building Products division, excluding the impacts of commodity deflation. We are particularly encouraged by the pro strength we're seeing across categories, including rough plumbing, building materials, paint and millwork, As we continue to expand our product and service offerings to meet their needs. And consistent with our total home strategy, we continue to add brands relevant to Pro's, including 4 new partnerships. First, we're adding a portfolio of drinks from Coca Cola To reduce the number of stops pros make before going to the job site, which is important since time is money for these customers. 2nd, we are adding Carhartt apparel that's popular with both our pro and our DIY consumer, especially in our rural stores.

Speaker 3

3rd, we have entered a new national partnership with Hubbell, giving us access to all of their pro branded electrical boxes, including Bell, And 4th, we are excited to be bringing back Kline tools. As Marvin mentioned, this is the number one hand tool brand among electrical and HVAC So this is just a big deal for us and our pros. We are also really excited to announce that Lowe's will offer the widest Our initial selection of Klein Tools will include hand tools and electrical test and measurement tools, followed by a multi year rollout of new product innovations. Fine Tools, Hubbell, Carhartt and Coca Cola are strong additions to our pro brand arsenal, which already includes other great brands like Bosch, DeWalt, Eaton, Eswing, FastenMaster, Flex, GRK, ITW, Lesco, Little Giant, Lufkin, Mansfield, Marshalltown, Metabo, SharkBite, Simpson Strong Tie, SPACS, Spyder and Werner. As we gain momentum with the Pro, We continue to see brands come to Lowe's and in many cases come back to Lowe's because they recognize our new found recommitment to the pro Shifting to our merchandising division performance for the quarter, in home decor, Appliances, paint and kitchens and bath led the way.

Speaker 3

Appliances grew across both pro and DIY as we continue to gain market share in this critical category. Growth was bolstered by our new instant savings capability that automatically applies supplier rebates to a customer's order, Making it much easier and faster for them to take advantage of these offers, which are supported by the manufacturer. This replaces our cumbersome mail in rebates with real time savings, both in stores and online, to remove friction for the customer and improve conversion. This innovation is another example of Lowe's leapfrogging the competition with technology that not only improves the customer experience, It also drives labor productivity. Paint was another standout category with solid pro growth fueled by our MVPs Pro Paint Rewards and Pro Job We are also seeing an uptick in paint attachments, items like applicators, paint sundries and caulk As we upgrade our paint departments across our stores, this upgrade is strategically designed to make it easier for our customers to get everything they need in one trip.

Speaker 3

We also began the launch of Stainmaster Paint, a high quality, high value solution for busy families looking to protect their walls This is Lowe's first ever private brand paint and early results are already outperforming our expectations. Our focus on driving private brand penetration is well timed, enabling us to capitalize on the nationwide trend of increasing customer preference for Private Brands. Another category that outperformed this quarter is Kitchens and Bath. We were particularly encouraged to see a strong increase in demand for Custom Cabinets, driven by improved lead times, as well as an expanded suite of digital tools, along with our team of talented virtual designers, All of which help our customers tailor the right solutions for their budgets and design preferences. Turning to the Building Products division.

Speaker 3

We delivered strong broad based growth, excluding the impacts of commodity deflation We delivered strong positive comps across rough plumbing, building materials and millwork, Driven by pro demand and continued DIY investment in the home. Our performance in hardlines was consistent with broader consumer trends As we saw a decrease in holiday gift buying compared to the prior year. However, the team still delivered a solid holiday season With sell throughs above 2019 levels. As expected, consumers reverted to more typical holiday buying patterns As compared to last year when we saw widespread early buying due to supply chain concerns. As we look ahead, we continue to build on our Customers' preference for new and innovative products with continued enhancements to our product assortments.

Speaker 3

We are expanding on our Popular cobalt 24 volt platform with new tools and technology that customers have been asking for, including a cordless cobalt mailer They can instantly fire 1100 nails on a single charge, eliminated the need to drag an air compressor and a hose around the job site. We're also excited about our new EGO Zero Turn Radius mower with the industry's first eSteer technology. With a sleek intuitive steering wheel that increases the driver's control and precision powered by the EGO battery system that now allows this unit to mow Three acres on a single charge. We are ready to capitalize on spring with the best in stock positions that we've had in 3 years, Right on time to support our biggest selling season of the year. In addition to an enhanced assortment and strong in stock levels, As one of the larger importers in the U.

Speaker 3

S, we continue to leverage our scale and carrier relationships are working with our suppliers to ensure that our prices are competitive to support sales and to protect our margins. We have sophisticated cost optimization tools that track prices of the underlying components of the products we sell, so the teams are well informed for these discussions. We are also holding our suppliers accountable to drive out costs through their productivity, just as we are doing throughout our own organization. We are also partnering with our suppliers through our Lowe's 1 roof media network. Some of our top suppliers have already locked in sizable contracts for 2023, we are excited to partner with them to strategically target the home improvement shopper to drive traffic on lowes.com and convert the sale.

Speaker 3

Before I close, I'd like to extend my appreciation to our merchants and our inventory and supply chain teams, along with our vendor partners for their hard work And continued support throughout 2022. I'm looking forward to what we will accomplish together in 2023 as we continue to find ways to provide value to our shared Thank you. And I'll now turn the call over to Joe.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Bill, and good morning, everyone. I'd like to start by thanking our associates for their unwavering commitment to serving our customers And delivering another solid year of operating results. Associates at the heart of any retailer, but even more so in our Where customers rely on our associates' product knowledge as they look for the right solutions to repair and upgrade their homes. That's why we're so focused on becoming the employer of choice in retail, where associates choose to stay to build their careers. As Marvin mentioned, we've made substantial wage investments over the last 4 years, and we constantly review each market and monitor candidate flow to help us remain competitive and maintain a robust hiring pool in all geographic areas of the company.

Speaker 4

Beyond competitive compensation, we offer comprehensive benefits, Flexible scheduling options and bonus opportunities. As we close out the year, we are excited to award $220,000,000 in This includes $70,000,000 for our assistant store managers and supply chain supervisors With an incremental $7,500 bonus this quarter on top of their annual incentive bonus and we are one of only a handful of retailers offer share based compensation for our ASMs, which incentivizes them to build their careers at Lowe's. These critical leaders are undoubtedly some of the Hardest working leaders in our company, and they're at the forefront of creating a culture focused on exceptional customer service. In addition to recognizing these leaders, we are also awarding $150,000,000 to eligible hourly associates in recognition of their efforts this year. Based on continuous associate listening, we also added other improvements this quarter, including sick leave for part time associates from within over the last year, with more than 90% of our store leaders starting as hourly associates.

Speaker 4

As we enter spring, our busiest time of year, I'm pleased that we have the best staffing levels that we've had in 3 years. Our focus on associates also translates into how we're serving the pro, which is our biggest opportunity for growth. This quarter, we launched a Know the Pro training, helping our associates understand how to better serve Pro customers across the entire store, not just at the Pro desk. This training supported storewide participation in key Q4 Pro events, including the most successful Provember we've ever had, As well as our MVP's bonus days, which exceeded expectations. I would like to thank our associates, especially our pro team We're delivering outstanding results, driving U.

Speaker 4

S. Pro comps of 10% for the quarter, 36% on a 2 year basis, despite commodity We continue to leverage our MVP's Pro Rewards and Partnership program to capitalize on this demand By engaging pros, incentivizing purchases and building long term loyalty. Our program is designed to make every pro feel like an MVP regardless of their size, giving small to midsized pros access to bonus points, savings And exclusive offers that they can't get elsewhere. We're pleased to see the results continue to exceed expectations as reflected in our 200 basis Points increase in pro customer satisfaction scores in Q4. Shifting gears to our focus on productivity.

Speaker 4

We continue to make progress with our PPI or perpetual productivity improvement initiatives. One of the key objectives of PPI It's simplifying our associates' jobs while removing friction for our customers. This approach allows us to generate productivity and cost savings in the store, while simultaneously improving customer service. One great example of this is the transition of our outdated legacy technology to our new modern omni channel systems. We just completed the conversion at our returns desk with easy to use touch screens that enable associates to quickly scan items and process the correct return value with the system automatically accounting for return policies and promotions.

Speaker 4

This simplifies the return experience for customers, Gives our suppliers more insights to improve product quality, while also making it easier for associates to enforce our policies and manage complex returns. We also continue to roll out new tools, including 90,000 additional Zebra smartphones by the end of June To ensure all associates walking the sales floor have a device, including our MST associates. Our leadership team knows that when we make things easier for our associates, They make things easier for our customers, and our new returns process is just one example of the dozens of initiatives underway to do just that. And of course, none of this would be possible without our associates. For our associates tuning in, thank you for your ongoing focus on serving customers In driving productivity, we appreciate your hard work.

Speaker 4

And with that, I'll turn the call over to Brandon.

Speaker 5

Thank you, Joe, and good morning, everyone. Let me begin with our Q4 results. We generated GAAP diluted earnings per share of $1.58 compared to $1.78 Last year. Now, my comments from this point forward will include certain non GAAP comparisons where applicable. Excluding the $441,000,000 of pre tax transaction costs associated with the sale of our Canadian retail business, We generated adjusted diluted earnings per share of $2.28 an increase of 28% compared to the Q4 of 2021.

Speaker 5

This increase was driven by our continued focus on productivity as well as disciplined capital allocation. Q4 sales were $22,400,000,000 which includes approximately $1,400,000,000 in sales generated in the 14th week. Comparable sales declined 1.5%. U. S.

Speaker 5

Comp sales were down 0.7% in the quarter With comp average ticket up 4.8 percent driven by product inflation and higher pro sales, partly offset By 75 basis points of lumber deflation. This was offset by a comp transaction decline of 5.5%. Sales in Canada totaled $958,000,000 a decline of 18% in USD on a comparable basis, Partly driven by exchange rate unfavorability due to a stronger dollar and lumber deflation. FX represented a 25 basis point headwind to consolidated comps. Of note, both the Canadian sales And lumber deflation pressured our Q4 comps more than expected.

Speaker 5

U. S. Pro sales were up 10% in the quarter despite lumber and copper deflation. On lowes.com, sales increased 5% in the quarter, partly driven by continued strength in appliances. Our U.

Speaker 5

S. Monthly comps improved as we move through the quarter, with comps down 3.1% in November due to DIY pullback on discretionary holiday In December, comps were down 0.2% with comps turning positive in January, up 1.4%, reflecting continued DIY investment in the home. Gross margin was 32.3% of sales in the 4th quarter, Down 60 basis points from last year. Product margin rate improved 15 basis points versus the prior year. Gross margins also benefited from 30 basis points of favorable product mix due to a lower percentage of lumber sales.

Speaker 5

Higher product margin rate was offset by 40 basis points related to the expansion of our supply chain network, 30 basis points of pressure from shrink And 35 basis points of pressure from our private label credit portfolio. Adjusted SG and A 20.9 percent of sales levered 131 basis points relative to Q4 2021, despite a modest decline in sales As we executed on our PPI initiatives across the company. Adjusted operating margin rate of 9.6 percent of sales levered 88 basis points as adjusted SG and A leverage was partly offset by lower gross margin rate. The adjusted effective tax rate was 24% below prior year levels. Inventory ended the quarter At $18,500,000,000 which now solely reflects the inventory for our U.

Speaker 5

S. Business as we closed on the sale of the Canadian retail business on February 3. Inventory is up $900,000,000 from the same quarter last year, largely driven by product inflation with units Down slightly to prior year. We continue to shift our inventory mix more towards pro categories as we invest to drive future growth. Now, let me turn to capital allocation.

Speaker 5

In 2022, we generated $6,800,000,000 in free cash flow, driven by outstanding operating results, We returned $16,500,000,000 to our shareholders through both share repurchases and dividends. During the Q4, we paid $643,000,000 in dividends at $1.05 per share and repurchased 10,000,000 shares for $2,000,000,000 This brought the total to $14,100,000,000 in share repurchases for the year, ahead of our expectations for approximately $13,000,000,000 This reflected better than expected operating performance and our commitment to return excess cash to shareholders. We ended the quarter at 2.44 times adjusted debt to EBITDAR. And finally, we delivered return on invested capital of 30.4%, Inclusive of an 800 basis point impact related to transaction costs associated with the sale of our Canadian retail business. Turning to our 2023 financial outlook, which we introduced this morning.

Speaker 5

As Marvin indicated, the long term outlook for home improvement remains strong. However, in 2023, residential investment will be under some pressure. Given elevated levels of inflation, Higher interest rates and a more cautious consumer, we are forecasting a slight decline in the home improvement market. We expect to continue to outperform the market in 2023 with sales ranging from $88,000,000,000 to $90,000,000,000 Comparable sales are expected to be in a range of flat to down 2%. Keep in mind that 2023 comparable sales will be calculated based On weeks 2 through 53 in fiscal 2022, gross sales growth is expected To exceed DIY again in 2023, as we expect to continue to outpace the broader pro market growth by 2x, We will continue to build on our momentum with the Pro with our new MVPs, Pro loyalty program, CRM tools and our expanded Pro brand lineup.

Speaker 5

We are expecting operating margin in the range of 13 point 6% to 13.8% as we continue to drive productivity through our PPI initiatives across the organization, In part, to offset our planned wage investments. For 2023, we are expecting to invest 350,000,000 In incremental wages for our frontline associates, which includes the 2023 portion of the 170,000,000 Permanent wage investment that went into effect in December. We expect capital expenditures of up to $2,000,000,000 this year And with our planned share repurchases, we also expect to reach our 2.75 times leverage target Allocation strategy is expected to deliver approximately $13.60 to $14 in earnings per share for the year. Keep in mind that there was an approximate $0.25 contribution to adjusted EPS from the 53rd week in our Canadian business in 2022. I would like to spend a moment discussing our expectations for first half performance, which is an easier comparison from a sales perspective.

Speaker 5

However, When we consider the impact of lower lumber prices, we are expecting a nearly 300 basis point headwind to sales in the 1st quarter And a 100 basis point headwind to sales in the 2nd quarter. Given these impacts, we expect our 1st quarter sales comps To be below our full year guidance range and our 2nd quarter sales comps to be above our full year guidance range. In closing, I'm confident that the combination of our strong operating results and our shareholder focused capital allocation strategies We'll continue to deliver meaningful long term shareholder value. And with that, we will open it up for questions.

Operator

Thank you. We're now ready for Thank you. And our first question is from the line of Simeon Gutman with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 6

Hey, good morning, everyone. First, I have a macro and then a micro question. So you just comped roughly Minus 1 in the U. S. With some rounding and the midpoint of the guide is minus 1.

Speaker 6

I know the monthlies, When Brandon gave the monthlies, I kind of answered it. But ignoring comparisons, I guess the guidance assumes that largely the backdrop holds up. And I wanted to re question that given some of the deceleration in some of the housing metrics, so and what drives that?

Speaker 2

Hey, I'll take the first part of this, Simeon. I'll kind of go back to what I said in some of the prepared comments. When we take a look at What our demand drivers are for home improvement and just to be specific, these are historical demand drivers that have held up Over time, they still remain supportive and things like disposable personal income, which I mentioned, is roughly $1,500,000,000,000 in savings Above pre pandemic levels, the average equity in U. S. Homes roughly $330,000 on average, The age of homes, and a reminder, 2 thirds of everything we sell is non discretionary.

Speaker 2

And there are other tailwinds, Millennial household formation trend, baby boomers aging in place and more widespread sustainable remote work. So all of these things Give us some confidence that the backdrop remains supportive. But as Brandon said, we still have some degree of caution When we think about discretionary buying and that is factored into the guide. So I'll let Brandon add anything additional to that.

Speaker 5

Yes, Simeon, this is Brian. And I'll talk to your question specifically on Q4. As I said in the prepared remarks, Inflation interest rates, we are seeing a bit more of a cautious consumer, one that's anticipating and responding to value. We saw this play out In November, with discretionary holiday categories, but we did see a nice progression of performance across the quarter as we hit the January exit, and we continue to see Solid DIY demand in core home improvement categories like appliances. So as we turn and look at the guide in the next We feel comfortable with what we're seeing in Q4, very much in line with what we shared back in December in terms of the moderate scenario.

Speaker 5

And it's consistent with the market being down, call it, low single digits at 2% to 3%. So I think we got a lot of good consistency with what we're seeing again Q4 with what we're anticipating for the full year next year.

Speaker 6

Okay. And the follow-up is more micro. Within this, the long term guidance that you gave in December, the 14.5 to 15, there's about 150 to 200 or so from OpEx productivity and then I think some of the PPI initiatives. And I guess that's the stuff you can control. I forget if we discussed If that's ratable, meaning even across the timeframe, or are there things that you can pull forward this year Or any year if you need it and or is the cost environment going up such that it makes the achievement of that bucket any different?

Speaker 5

Yes, Simeon, I would say ratable as we look at the 3 year period with what we shared in December. I mean, when we look at the Algorithm for the guide for 2023, we are expecting roughly flat gross margin. So the bulk of The 60 to 80 basis points of EBIT expansion that's reflected in the guide is coming from SG and A leverage and it's being largely driven by our productivity initiative. That's specifically just translating and transitioning from what we shared on the 3 year to what we're expecting from an SG and A standpoint in 'twenty three.

Speaker 2

And Simeon, this is Marvin. The only thing I'll add is if you take a look at Q4, just as an example, It just shows that even in a flat to negative sales environment, we still have the ability to leverage Productivity, whether that's expenses or operating margin, and I think that is consistent with the PPI initiatives Not being solely focused in one functional area, but as you heard at our December Analyst and Investor Conference, it's across all functions, merchandising, supply And so although it's ratable, we're very confident in our ability to deliver upon that in a variety of macro scenarios.

Speaker 6

Great. Thanks. Good luck.

Speaker 5

Thanks, Simeon.

Operator

The next question is from the line of Kate McShane with Goldman Sachs.

Speaker 7

This is Patrick Hollander on for Kate. We just wanted to ask about price elasticity. Another item discussed at the December Analyst It was kind of the confidence in prices sticking, but your competitor mentioned that they saw more price sensitivity in the Q4 than they had in the Q3. So first, are you guys seeing something similar? And then how do you address some of the price sensitivity?

Speaker 7

Do prices need to come down? Will we see more markdown activity? Thank you.

Speaker 5

Yes. Hey, Patrick, this is Brandon. As it relates to question on elasticity, stepping back when we look at the last 3 years through the pandemic, we saw consumers who were very resilient with higher prices not necessarily impacting demand that we were seeing for our business. As I mentioned in the last response, we are seeing more normal consumer trends, with consumers anticipating and responding to value. So as we look at 2023, we are expecting a modest inflation lift across the portfolio.

Speaker 5

Most of that is going to be wrap Of inflation that we're seeing in 2022 lapping into 2023, we're expecting that inflation to continue to slow, and we're seeing Minimal activity in terms of new pipeline requests coming in from our supplier base. And that inflation is going to impact mostly first half as those benefits are expected to normalize as we move through the year next year. And then on the transaction side, we expect that inflation to be Set by a modest decline in transactions, which we also expect to see that improve across the year. So we're looking back half of the year and then into 24, more traditional balance between ticket and transaction.

Speaker 7

Great. Thank you.

Speaker 5

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question will come from the line of Scot Ciccarelli with Truist. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 8

Hey, good morning guys. This is Joe on for I was really impressed by the pro commentary. I was just wondering, is there any sort of regional thing that you'd break out, Whether or not people are more or less bullish on their outlooks and backlogs in areas where there's been more housing price correction?

Speaker 2

So Joe, good question. What I'll tell you, there are a couple of markets around the country that had a more accelerated, What I would call appreciation of home prices during the pandemic and let's call out markets like South Florida, Phoenix, as an example, and as you can imagine, we pay really close attention to those markets. We've not seen any material difference And sales performance in those markets as those prices tend to come are coming down than in the broader U. S. And so when I cited the statistic That 70% of our PROs in our survey from January are very confident in their backlog being consistent to last year and being able to sustain it, That is pretty much a universal statement across all geographies.

Speaker 2

What I can tell you is that we're very pleased with the performance Of our MVP loyalty program and how it's sustaining and giving us the ability to drive sales. And I'll let Joe just touch a little bit on That program and how we think that's going to allow us to build loyalty and continue to grow this very important business.

Speaker 4

Thanks Marvin and Joe thanks for the question. As it relates to the pro and the market, Marvin made his prepared comments, But as you dig deeper, there's kind of 5 key areas that we look at, which is the jobs, how far out the pro is booked in the next 6 months. Materials, can they get what they need and is it the right cost? Can they get pro credit? What does the labor market look like?

Speaker 4

And then just a balance The type of work they do, so remodel versus new construction. And as we track these and as we roll out our Pro loyalty program, we're pleased with the trajectory of the business and the help of this small pro that we're servicing.

Speaker 8

Great. Thank you so much.

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Brian Nagel with Oppenheimer. Please

Speaker 9

I apologize, my question may sound like similar to prior questions. Going back to comments made by your competitors last week, they discussed what they termed kind of a broadening, if you will, of Consumer normalization or consumer weakness. You called out weakness around the holiday, the gift giving discretionary. Would you characterize also seeing that what they discussed in this kind of broadening of weakness and normalization across your portfolio?

Speaker 2

Brian, it's a fair question. And I'll start out by saying Q4 is typically our highest discretionary Selling period of the year because of the holiday season. But when we look at core home improvement categories, we feel really good about The performance of the DIY customer. And I think as Brandon gave that monthly comp cadence for the Q4, you notice that every month, The business performed stronger with a positive comp in January, and that was almost directly correlated to the DIY customer Being stronger each month of the quarter because we moved away from that discretionary period that was so heavily focused in the month of November because of holiday buy. So as we look at the overall customer, we look at the health of the DIY, the discretionary spending, We don't see any really red flags that we're concerned about because the core home improvement discretionary category has held up Really well for us, case in point appliances, case in point paint.

Speaker 2

So those are areas that really perform well and I'll let Brandon add any additional comments.

Speaker 5

Yes, Brian, I'll just connect that to the guide Marvin highlighted with what we're seeing more with the DIY customer. But just looking at the pro And expectations into 'twenty three continue to outpace DIY 11 quarters in a row double digit comp. We'll continue to see Pro across all ticket ranges, both comp and transaction growth. And while we did see DIY lag in 2022 in the discretionary Category, some of what Marvin was describing, we are seeing those overall transactions continue to improve across the year. So when we look at 2023, still expecting outperformance with the Pro, but expecting that gap between Pro and DIY to continue to close and tighten, And that's what's reflected in our guide for next year.

Speaker 9

That's very helpful. And then my follow-up question, just with regard to lumber prices. So you discussed here, and we get it, this is kind of pass along dynamic when prices decline, that's a negative for sales. But have we gotten to the point where lumber prices have declined so much that's becoming a potential stimulant to demand. I don't know if you're seeing this in your business or maybe in some of your pulling of your professional customers.

Speaker 5

Yes, Brian, I'll take that and again kind of connect it to the guide. So our guide at the midpoint for lumber in particular assumes A normalized pricing environment, certainly considered to what we've seen for the last 3 years. And within that lumber As you heard in my prepared remarks, expecting headwind in both Q1 and Q2. And I'll call out also if that When we look at lumber pricing currently, if that were to play out across the remainder of the year, it actually puts another 100 basis points of pressure On the midpoint of the guide. But to your point, within that, we are expecting an offset in units, and there's potential that could be a stimulant For our business, but again, right now, we're expecting and have considered at the midpoint of our guide just more normalized pricing and a slight rebound in units in the next year.

Speaker 9

Got it. I appreciate all the color. Thanks guys.

Speaker 5

Thanks Brian.

Operator

Next question comes from the line of Karen Short with Credit Please

Speaker 2

proceed with your questions.

Operator

Ms. Schorr, please go ahead with your questions.

Speaker 10

Apologies. Sorry, thanks for that. So just on two questions. You guided to flat to Down 2% comps. So that was kind of in between the robust and moderate scenarios that you Offered.

Speaker 10

And then your margins, though, are only on the moderate range, not the robust range. So I'm wondering if you could give any color on that. And then on the wage investments that you called out, obviously, one of your competitors also announced Very sizable wage investments. So wondering if you could just give a little color on your wage investment versus

Speaker 2

So Karen, this is Marvin. I'll take the wage question, then I'll let Brandon I'll take the first part of the question. So two things. First, we feel great about the financial commitment we've made to our frontline associates, And we're also very confident in our long term financial plan. So since 2018, as we mentioned, we've invested over $3,000,000,000 in incremental wages and share based And we'll take a look at the sales force.

Speaker 2

We'll take a look at the sales force. Over the past 4 years, we've increased our wage by more than 20%. And Brandon mentioned that we're going to be investing $350,000,000 this year in And over the next 3 years, we're going to invest nearly $1,000,000,000 So when you contemplate all this together, It's factored in our 2023 guidance and our long term financial guidance. And as an investor community, sometimes we get Challenged by our rural footprint of stores as competitive disadvantage, when you discuss wage, that's actually an advantage because Most of the small and rural markets where we operate, we're the highest paying retailer. And where we're not, the local operators Have a very, very specific process to follow to get wage adjusted.

Speaker 2

So our approach to wage It's our strategy and we feel really good about it and our associates have responded well. And what I'll do before I hand it to Brandon, I'm just going to let Joe McFarland talk a little bit about Staffing levels and spring hiring, which as you know is a really big deal for us this time of the year.

Speaker 4

Karen, thanks for the question. And as it relates to Our frontline associates, I'm very pleased with our staffing right now. This is the best staffing we've had in 3 years And our spring hiring as the markets come into season is ahead of expectations. So Very pleased with the team's ability to step

Speaker 2

in and answer the other part of your question.

Speaker 5

Yes. Karen, your first question on operating margin, we look at What we shared in December, midpoint of the guide, down 1% 13.7 In that moderate scenario, our guidance is right in line, purely consistent with that with the range that we provided just bookending those midpoints. So very consistent there.

Speaker 10

Okay. Thank you so much.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Michael Lasser with UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 11

Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. So first, at the Analyst Meeting in December, you pointed The most likely scenario being the robust market scenario or the moderate market scenario, the guidance now at the midpoint is squarely on The moderate market scenario at the low end could be closer to the weak market scenario. So what's changed in the last 90 days or so To moderate your expectations for 2023? And then I have a follow-up.

Speaker 2

Yes. So, Mark, this is Marvin. At a high level, it's lumber deflation. That pretty much sums it up. As Brandon mentioned, we're going to have 300 basis points of headwind in Q1 And a 100 basis points of headwind in Q2.

Speaker 2

Going into 2023, we looked at the first half of the year as our easiest compares. That remains, but when you throw in that lumber deflation, that pretty much sums up what's different between what we discussed in December And what our guidance is?

Speaker 5

Yes. And Michael, I'll just add that the weak scenario that we called out still very much sort of off the table for us. I think we called out at that point it would require Significant economic shock and we don't see that playing out. So we're still very squarely in line with that moderate view. And just as a reminder, the downside even in weak scenario was a 13.3 percent operating margin, so still 30 basis points of expansion even in that scenario.

Speaker 11

Understood. Thank you. My follow-up is on the gross margin outlook for this year. What's a realistic expectation, especially as The consumer environment gets a little tougher, the consumer may shop or want to shop a bit more on promotion. And how are you thinking about The private label credit card contribution to the overall P and L this year.

Speaker 12

Thank you.

Speaker 5

Yes, Michael, I'll talk about The guide as it relates to margin, so very focused next year on delivering operating margin expansion, And that's on flat to slightly negative comps. As you mentioned, the gross margin, we are expecting that to be roughly flat in 2023, and there's a few different puts and takes We're managing on the headwind side, continued rollout and expansion of our supply chain, specifically market delivery. We're going to continue to see mix pressure from our pro strategic initiative investments. The flip side, a number of productivity efforts you mentioned private brand penetration, Also lower commodity and transportation costs and then continued benefit from our pricing initiatives. So the large part of the leverage is going to come from SG and A and continued PPI productivity efforts that you've heard called out from the team.

Speaker 5

So that's sort of the formula as we look at margins and flow through next And Bill, I don't know if there's anything else you want to add on private brands and some of the momentum that we're seeing there.

Speaker 3

Well, Brandon and for Michael, what we About in December, private brands certainly give us an opportunity in categories where a national brand isn't relevant. Private brands Carry a better margin, they offer the consumer some additional choices. As it relates to promotional activity, we want to continue to offer the There's value, but we're not adding new promotions for 2023.

Speaker 11

That's helpful. And just to clarify, I was Referring to the private label credit card that was a drag in the on the gross margin in the 4th quarter?

Speaker 5

Yes, got it, Michael. So yes, Drag in Q4 mainly given the interest rate environment that we're seeing, but as we turn into 2023, again, a number of puts and takes, We feel like the bulk of that for the most part has been absorbed and we have that factored into 23.

Speaker 11

Thank you very much.

Speaker 5

Thank you.

Operator

Next question comes from the line of Greg Melick with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 12

Hi. I'll start with a follow-up on that last question before I get to mine. On other gross margin puts and takes, Shrink was also, I think, a headwind in the 4th quarter. Could you just quantify that and give us your expectations for that into 'twenty three?

Speaker 5

Yes. So sure, Greg. On shrink in particular, it was a bit of a pressure point, a bit worse than expected. It's been approximately 30 basis point pressure. We saw that Q3 and Q4 largely driven by what we're seeing more broadly in retail With organized crime, but again, as we turn and look at 2023, that pressure largely absorbed in 2022.

Speaker 5

We feel like we got great Efforts within the team and the organization in terms of what we're doing to protect against shrink, and I'll maybe let Joe, call that out.

Speaker 4

Yes. So thanks for the question. And listen, we're really pleased with the asset protection team. The entire industry has pressure from ORC. Our asset protection team has rolled out some new innovative Thanks for safety, for shrink and so we see the outlook good.

Speaker 12

Great. And then I guess my key question was on the Traffic and inflation and how that sort of comes in through the year. So if you think about the cadence through the year, it sounds like 1st quarter is below the range, 2nd quarter is above the range. Should we assume the second half is better than the first half or worse than the first half or in Fine.

Speaker 5

Yes. 2nd half, Greg, very much in line.

Speaker 12

Got it. And the difference would be Better traffic in the second half, maybe still negative, but less negative and less impact?

Speaker 9

Correct. Correct.

Speaker 12

Great. Thanks and good luck.

Speaker 5

Thanks, Greg.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Peter Benedict with Baird. Please proceed with your questions.

Speaker 9

Hi, guys. Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Just wanted to hone in on the Q1 comp view that you laid Understand the commodity impacts there. But just curious any early seasonal read?

Speaker 9

I know it is early, but some of your markets in the South, just curious How spring seasonal demand is starting out here? That's my first question.

Speaker 5

Yes. Peter, as we look at February sales consistent with our guidance. We called out the Q1 being below the full year guidance range. And again, that's primarily due to the lumber pricing pressure that we're seeing. We are encouraged to see early signs of strength in discretionary seasonal categories, in particular, South and Deep South, as our Customers begin to prepare for spring and I'll let Bill talk to that

Speaker 3

in a little bit more detail. Yes. Thanks, Brandon. And Peter, We started setting our stores in the south, deep south early January. And I think what's nice to see is Spring start to come the way it's supposed to come and you start to see sales of product in fertilizer, chemicals, landscape products Start to occur the way they're supposed to occur, and so we're encouraged by that.

Speaker 3

February can always be a wildcard month, but certainly in these months, in these deep south and south markets, Seeing it kind of progress the way it's supposed to.

Speaker 2

Got it. Thanks. And

Speaker 9

then in respect to the maybe the promotional plan that you have laid out for the year. I mean, you mentioned in your prepared remarks that the consumer is responding to value. I'm just curious, I mean, we've been through a period where there's been very limited promotions. So how do we think about the plan maybe for the first half of the year here in terms of your promotions, Things that you tend to do to drive traffic and how they compare to maybe what you've done in the last couple of years? That's my second question.

Speaker 9

Thank you.

Speaker 2

So Peter, I'll take the first part of that. At the highest level, you're not going to see any increased promotional activities by us. We're very fortunate to be in a very rational industry relative to promotions. And to be quite candid, a lot of the irrational activities came from old lows. And those practices and behaviors are along behind us.

Speaker 2

One of the first things that Bill Boats and I discussed when we arrived 4.5 years ago was getting off the high low promotional drug that we felt was not consistent with how you should run business In this industry and it's taken us a while to get there, but we're very fortunate that we are there. So we anticipate and see No increased promotional activities. Obviously, as you get out of these pandemic driven demand cycles, Customers are looking for value, but we believe we can offer value without getting to a high promotional environment. Bill, I don't know if there's anything you want to add.

Speaker 3

No, I think the one area that the team may See different activity on is in appliances, and you guys have to remember that roughly 100,000 appliances break every day. And so there's Always going to be an offer in the marketplace for appliances driven by the manufacturers, supported by the retailers. So that's one area. Supply has improved, Those offers are out there for appliance products, but no additional promotions.

Speaker 9

Thanks, Peter.

Operator

Thank you. We have time for one final question, which will come from the line of Steve Forbes with Guggenheim. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker 8

Good morning and thanks for taking the question. Marvin, Brandon, I

Speaker 2

just wanted to follow-up with

Speaker 8

a quick modeling question given the exit of Canada. And so I'm not sure if you can help us think about the mix impact on gross margin because I would think the Canadian business And the exit of it has a positive impact on gross. And can you help us quantify that relative to 60 basis point net impact and whether this is partially Yes, sort of supportive of the 2023 outlook for a flattish gross margin in 2023.

Speaker 5

Yes, Steve. 60 basis points was full year impact on operating margin. And when you think about Split there between gross margin and SG and A, it's roughly half half.

Speaker 8

Thank you for that. And then Lastly, the ongoing compensation related investments that you noted during the prepared remarks, which is great to hear, I was curious if we just take a step back and Think about the dollar level of OpEx productivity initiatives you've highlighted at the Analyst Days in 2020 and 2022. Any contextualization about how much still remains in front of us in dollar terms? And Marvin, I'm not sure because maybe talk about some specific PPI initiatives that you're most excited about this year?

Speaker 2

Yes. Well, it's a really good question, Steve. A couple of things. Number 1, as you can imagine, we have been working aggressively to update our IT Restructure, we still have a 30 year old basically mainline system that we're getting ready to retire And it's literally taken us 4.5 years to get to this point. The moment that system is officially retired, it gives us the ability to create So many technology advancements that will do 2 things.

Speaker 2

We'll simplify the associates job And limit friction points for customers, which will reduce payroll and improve customer service. And that's what Joe cited in some of his prepared comments. So holistically, a lot of our PPI initiatives on the store and merchandising side and candidly the supply chain side Our tied and correlates to the retirement of this 30 year old operating system that we are excited is going to be going away Over the next few months. And as we look at that, you'll start to see your more omni channel type of systems available in the store At point of sale, you'll start to see pricing initiatives and pricing systems advanced on the merchandising side. You'll start to see us Have the ability to do more relative to integrating gig network deliveries online in a more seamless way In addition to all of the supply chain and some of the advanced sourcing logics we'll be able to do that will give us the ability to ship merchandise, aggregate merchandise From different points of stores, distribution centers without having to go out and build these monolithic DCs that some retailers have had to do.

Speaker 2

So all of those things are tied together, but again, it's almost foundationally driven to a lot of the IT work that's been done the last 4 plus years.

Speaker 8

Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thank you all for joining us today. We look forward to speaking with you on our Q1 earnings call in May.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes the Lowe's 4th quarter 2022 earnings call. You may now disconnect.

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