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Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryPZZA ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Papa Johns International Q1 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrApril 25, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 11 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Greetings, and welcome to Asbury Automotive Group's First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are on a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Karen Reed, Vice President and Corporate Treasurer. Operator00:00:28Thank you. You may begin. Speaker 100:00:31Thanks, Rob, and good morning, all. As noted, today's call is being recorded and will be available for replay later this afternoon. Welcome to Asbury Automotive Group's 1st Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. The press release detailing Asbury's Q1 results was issued earlier this morning and is posted on our website at investors. Asburyauto.com. Speaker 100:00:57Participating with me today David Holt, our President and Chief Executive Officer Dan Clara, our Senior Vice President of Operations and Michael Welch, Our Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. At the conclusion of our remarks, we will open the call up for questions and will be available later for any follow-up questions. Before we begin, we must remind you that the discussion during the call today is likely to contain forward looking statements. Forward looking statements are statements other than those which are historical in nature, which may include financial projections, forecasts and current expectations, each of which are subject to certain uncertainties. For information regarding certain of the risks that may cause actual results to differ materially from these statements, Please see our filings with the SEC from time to time, including our Form 10 ks for the year ended December 2022 and subsequently file quarterly reports on Form 10 Q and our earnings release issued earlier today. Speaker 100:02:06We expressly disclaim any responsibility to update forward looking statements. In addition, Certain non GAAP financial measures as defined under SEC rules may be discussed on this call. As required by applicable SEC rules, we provide reconciliations of any such non GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures on our website. We have also posted an updated investor presentation on our website, investors. Asburyauto.com highlighting our Q1 results. Speaker 100:02:42It is my pleasure to now hand the call over to our CEO, David Holt. David? Speaker 200:02:49Thank you, Karen, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to our Q1 earnings call. I am proud of the team's performance in Q1 and the execution of our business model across its diverse revenue and profit streams. As expected, we are starting to see trends as the industry begins to normalize. We are strategically operating within a changing environment and we continue to prioritize profitability. Speaker 200:03:21Over the last couple of years, Pre owned has been depleted due to fleet levels and lack of leasing. Overall, with this limited availability of pre owned inventory In an unbalanced new inventory by brand, we are focused on maximizing our gross profit streams. Now to our consolidated results. As a reminder, during 2022, we divested of 16 stores, 4 occurring in the 1st quarter, 3 in the 2nd quarter, and 9 in the 4th quarter. These stores contributed $683,000,000 in revenue last year. Speaker 200:04:07Now for the Q1 of 2023. We generated $3,600,000,000 in revenue, had a gross profit margin of 19.4%. Our SG and A as a percentage of gross profit was 57.9%, had an operating margin of 7.7% And our EBITDA was $294,000,000 We delivered an EPS of $8.37 And we repurchased 110,000 shares for $21,000,000 In addition, From the start of the Q2 through yesterday, we purchased 32,000 shares for $6,000,000 We continue to monitor the marketplace for acquisitions that meet our stringent thresholds for returns and that are a fit for the company from Our mindset continues to be that we are opportunistic, strategic and thoughtful in maximizing our returns for our shareholders. Now expanding to all stakeholders, I would like to highlight that we published our 2nd corporate responsibility report at the end of March. We invite you to read it if you haven't already. Speaker 200:05:27Finally, I would like to thank my fellow team members for a strong start to 2023. The guest centric experience begins with you, and we are looking forward to what is in store. Thank you. I will now hand the call over to Dan to discuss our operating performance. Dan? Speaker 300:05:45Thank you, David, and good morning, everyone. I would also like to extend my thanks to all of our hardworking team members For consistently delivering an exceptional guest experience. Now moving to the same store performance, which includes dealerships and TCA unless stated otherwise. As a reminder, we acquired many stores as well as TCA in late 2021, which have now entered our same store results for the quarter. Also, the 16 stores that were divested during 2022 are excluded from same store. Speaker 300:06:24Starting with new vehicles. Our new vehicle inventory ended the quarter at 640 $3,000,000 which represents a 30 day supply. Our day supply fluctuated by segment with domestic being at 63 days, Import at 18 days and luxury at 28 days and varying greatly among brands and models within those segments. Our new vehicle volume was down 4% year over year, while we grew new vehicle revenue by 3%. New average gross profit per vehicle was $5,184 a decrease of $6.16 from the prior year quarter. Speaker 300:07:08Turning to used vehicles. Used retail revenue was down 9% to prior year quarter, mainly due to the drop in cost of sales. Used retail gross profit per vehicle was $2,146 for the quarter, a decrease of $3.85 from the prior year quarter. Our used vehicle inventory ended the quarter at $309,000,000 which represents a 27 day supply. Shifting to F and I. Speaker 300:07:38We delivered an F and I PVR of $2,352 A decrease of $192 compared to the prior year quarter. Regarding consumer financing in general, We did not see a measurable impact of credit tightening in the quarter. In the Q1, our total front end year Per vehicle was $6,053 a decrease of $6.75 Moving to parts and service. Our parts and service business was a source of strength in the quarter. Revenue increased 12% in the quarter. Speaker 300:08:15Customer pay revenue continue its upward momentum with 14% growth and we expanded its gross profit by 13%. Now turning to ClickLane. Please note that for ClickLane, we are reporting on an all store basis. We set an all time record of over 10,800 vehicles through Clicklane in the Q1, a 93% increase year over year and a 28% increase over the previous best, which was last quarter. Approximately 16% of our Q1 of 2023 total retail sales were powered by ClickLearn and we achieved 39% of 2022 annual ClickLane sales in just the Q1. Speaker 300:09:03We generated approximately $450,000,000 in ClickLane revenue for the quarter and we are on track For our $2,500,000,000 revenue estimate for Click Link, our tool that offers a full omni channel experience and guest centric features. Moving on to some KPIs from the Q1. Average transaction time remained in line with prior quarters, 8 minutes for cash deals and 14 minutes for finance deals. Total front end PBR of $3,007 and an F and I PVR of $2,275 which equates to $5,876 of total front end yield. The average ClickLane customer credit score was 721, which is higher than the average credit score at our stores. Speaker 300:09:5689% of those that applied were approved for financing, of which 90% of those customers received instant approval, while the remaining customers require some offline assistance. 72% were lender finance sales and 28% were cash sales. The average Distance of a click lane delivery from our dealerships was 18.1 miles, which allows us to retain customers in our high margin parts and service departments. In our journey to become the most guest centric automotive retailer, we recognize that the most important differentiator that we have is the level of service we provide. Then trust, loyalty and retention naturally follow. Speaker 300:10:40I will now hand the call over to Michael to discuss our financial performance. Michael? Speaker 400:10:46Thank you, Dan. To our investors, analysts, Team members and other participants on our call, good morning. I would like to provide some financial highlights for our company. For additional details on our financial performance for the quarter, Please see our financial supplement in our press release today and our investor presentation on our website. Overall, net income was $181,000,000 and EPS was $8.37 for the quarter. Speaker 400:11:13There were no non GAAP adjustments to net income in the Q1 of 2023. Adjusted net income for the Q1 of 2022 excludes gains net of tax A $25,500,000 related to $33,100,000 gain on the sale of 4 dealerships And a $900,000 gain on a sale leaseback. This adjusted 2022 Q1 EPS by $1.11 to $9.27 Our effective tax rate for the Q1 of 2023 was 23.9% compared to 24.2% for the Q1 of 2022. We estimate our tax rate for the remainder of 2023 to be approximately 24.5%. Excluding real estate purchases, we spent approximately $15,000,000 on capital expenditures in the Q1. Speaker 400:12:09We expect full year 2023 CapEx to be $200,000,000 as we continue to roll out our planned CapEx related to our 2021 acquisitions. Of this $200,000,000 about $20,000,000 is expected to be related to replacement of leased properties. For the quarter, TCA made $17,000,000 of pre tax income, which excludes $3,000,000 of net unrealized gains. We have rolled out TCA to all of our stores in Colorado, Texas and St. Louis and we expect to deploy TCA into the rest of our stores by the end of 2020 Due to the deferral of the income associated with the store rollouts, we expect TCA to generate $25,000,000 of pre tax income for 2023, A decrease from the $80,000,000 in 2022. Speaker 400:12:57Our balance sheet remains strong as we ended the quarter with approximately $1,700,000,000 of liquidity Comprised of cash excluding cash at Total Care Auto, floorplan offset accounts and availability on both our used line and revolving credit facility. Even with our sizable acquisitions in recent years, we have managed our debt levels strategically to support a long term growth. Our pro form a adjusted net leverage was 1.6x at the end of March. For the Q1 of 2023, We generated $244,000,000 of adjusted operating cash flow, driven by our strong business model. With our robust cash flow generation, We have the flexibility to achieve our strategic goals and be able to seize opportunities. Speaker 400:13:43We constantly gauge the market for potential acquisitions that would further enhance our strong portfolio versus repurchasing shares to return capital to shareholders. Finally, I would also like to thank our Asbury team members. Our results are driven by your dedication to the guest centric model. I will now hand the call back over to David to provide some closing remarks. David? Speaker 200:14:04Thank you, Michael. I'm encouraged by our results, especially from a same store performance. In an aged car park, with still historically depressed SAAR levels And the complexity of newer cars such as EVs bodes well for our strong parts and service business. We have been and continue to be strategic in our philosophy and in our actions. With our strong cash flow and balance sheet, Which has grown more robust over time, we are opportunistic for potential acquisitions and buybacks. Speaker 200:14:37This concludes our prepared remarks. We'll now turn the call over to the operator and take your questions. Operator? Operator00:14:45Thank you. At this time, we'll be conducting a question and answer session. Our first question comes from Daniel Imbro with Stephens Inc. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:15:21Hey, good morning everybody. Thanks for taking our questions. Good morning. You guys have done a great job, I feel like, on the new vehicle side, especially with some of the elevated production at some of the domestic OEMs. I guess, one, other than Clicklane, are there things you guys are doing operationally to protect that GPU margin Or improve the vehicle sales trends? Speaker 500:15:41And then second as a related one, what percent of new units are sold on pre order today? Maybe how has that trended as we try to assess the demand backdrop here in terms of what's getting pre sold? Speaker 200:15:55Daniel, this is David. I'll take it and Dan can jump in. Last quarter, about 38 And our cars were pre sold on incoming. For Q1, it dropped to 33%. So we still think a pretty healthy number, but there certainly was a drop there as well. Speaker 200:16:12On the pre owned side, sequentially, we actually went up in PVR. We just determined that it didn't make sense to chase volume. Our gross profits are not so much about the sale price, but the acquisition price, because the market dictates what the selling price is going to be. So we weren't aggressive at buying cars from auctions or anything like that. We focused on trade ins, off lease vehicles And purchasing cars direct from consumer. Speaker 200:16:41We felt it was a better trade off to have lower volume and higher gross profits, which Really generated a better EPS for us overall. Speaker 300:16:52David, I have nothing to add. I think you covered it well. Speaker 500:16:55And then on that used side, thank you for that. Maybe to follow-up, it's still obviously a point of weakness out there in the market. Are you seeing any discernible change in the Pre owned buyer or consumer, are you seeing a trade down? Are you seeing lower product attachment on F and I? Anything that would tell you that consumer is Materially changing from how they've been the last couple of quarters? Speaker 200:17:16You can see on our cost of sale, it dropped a little bit for the first time in a couple of years. So we see that as a good sign. Certainly, with all the interest rate increases over time, that's put more pressure on the payment. So I think people are not reacting as quickly and being more thoughtful about taking time. The biggest challenge right now, as you can imagine, It's finding the right fit, really trying to find those cars that people are looking for, so you can turn them in a quick manner, if you will. Speaker 200:17:49So again, we believe the focus almost 70% of the cars that we're selling right now are trade ins and off lease vehicles. And we feel if we can maintain that, we can hold on to margin as best we can, which is what our focus is going to be. Speaker 500:18:07Great. And then last one for me, Michael, as a follow-up on the financials. I guess, dollars 1,100,000,000 of cash on the balance sheet. You just did the divestitures in 4Q. What is the appetite for M and A? Speaker 500:18:17And are there any certain markets or brands you would like to fill in or trying to fill in specifically with that cash? Speaker 400:18:24Yes, I mean, we're still out there looking strategically for acquisitions. We like the markets we're in. We try to find those strategic acquisitions that make sense for us and then comparing that to the share buyback opportunities That are out there in the market as well. So trying to balance those two items with the cash, with the environment, what it is and the uncertainties Just in the economy, I think being a little bit just strategic with our cash and waiting for the right opportunities is the best approach right now, Just without uncertainty in the markets. Speaker 200:18:58And this is David. I'll just say we're seeing a good amount of M and A activity and seeing opportunities come our way. Just haven't been able to land something that we feel really strongly about. Speaker 500:19:11Great. Well, best of luck going forward and thanks for all the detail. Speaker 200:19:14Thank you. Operator00:19:17Our next question is from Adam Jonas with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 600:19:24Hey, everybody. Good morning. So my first question is, I think in your prepared remarks, You said that there was no measurable sign of financial tightening during the quarter. How about after the quarter? Speaker 700:19:44My first question. Speaker 200:19:45Yes. Adam, this is David. Not yet. I would tell you, as a reminder, we normally state that our subprime as a percentage of our business is about 10%. Last month in the quarter, it was just over 7% of our business. Speaker 200:20:04So our core customer is over 700 credit score. We have over 250 lenders that were signed up with. So we have a lot of options and we're not seeing any tightening as we sit here today. Speaker 600:20:17Okay. So just to interpret that, going from 10 to 7, maybe there is tightening, but you don't see it because it's happening on the lender side, Right. Is that a fair interpretation? Yes. Speaker 200:20:31Well, so I would tell Our store locations, our go to market and how we go after business, we're just not aggressive looking for subprime. So I wouldn't say this I wouldn't look at it that way as much. And as you can imagine with those number of lenders that we have, Certainly, some have tightened up their practices compared to others. But again, because of the majority of the A plurality of the banks that we have available to us, we just don't have an issue seeking lending. Speaker 600:21:06I got it. Thanks, David. Just a follow-up. Can you update us on your current percentage of your new sales that are ordered to delivery or pre ordered, let's say, maybe How that's trended, where that was kind of exiting last year or a year ago? And then any comment on ATP versus MSRP, That gap there would also be helpful given the environment. Speaker 600:21:31Thanks. Speaker 200:21:32Sure. I hope I get all of Last quarter, Q4 of 'twenty two, 38% of our vehicles were pre sold that were incoming. In Q1, it was 33%. So a little bit of a drop off there. Speaker 100:21:47ATP versus MSRP. Speaker 200:21:49Yes. And I would say percentage of MSRP, It's just like you would expect. Certain models that have a single day supply is certainly holding to MSRP and vehicles that we have Say north of a 40 day supply of vehicles, we're certainly discounting at this point. Speaker 600:22:06Thanks, David. Speaker 500:22:08You got it. Operator00:22:12Our next question is from John Murphy with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 800:22:17Good morning, guys. I just wanted to get into one thing about your new vehicle affordability and everybody Claims that it's a real issue, and it is for the consumer, but it may be not such a big issue for you because Putting up record profits or near record profits, things are pretty healthy for you in the business. So as you think about somebody coming in and they're challenged From an affordability perspective and buying a new vehicle, what's the process and how successful are you in transitioning them to Buying a used vehicle and or transitioning them into parts and service Customer, 2 avenues where you make pretty good profits relative to even the new vehicle side. Speaker 300:23:05John, good morning. This is Dan. So from the first aspect of the affordability from a new car perspective, We're starting to see, I would say, slowly but surely in taking a faster pace for a lack of better term, the leasing aspect of it. So as you see the challenging or the opportunity on the price of a new car that leasing Coming back really allows consumer to be able to get into that color that they want for a lower payment. And we all know the benefits that's going to have from a used car perspective 3 years down the road, getting those lease returns back. Speaker 300:23:48We know that The first car that we sell at our dealership is all done from the sales department, but the second, 3rd, 4th and so on is all done through service. So that turnover, if I may, that we do transaction wise From sales to services is extremely important, not just on making sure That we respect people's time. That's why we put so much focus on the cycle time, making sure that when they come in for that first service, they're getting in and out And getting their services completed because we know that to the extent that we respect people's time, their loyalty is going to continue to grow with us. And then as I mentioned, earlier comment, if we do a good job in the service retention, we're going to continue to sell the cars in the years to come. Speaker 200:24:43John, the one thing I would add that we did see in the Q1 Related to pressure and pricing, some of our domestics was really we had an imbalance of inventory in the sense of There were heavy content in vehicles that were built during the chip shortage. Everyone went with the heavy content in the vehicles. And in the Q1, especially on the domestic side, people were looking for less expensive trucks than what we had and there was a slow Approach on incentives there. So I think we're certainly seeing it on the truck side in the sense of people looking for a little bit less expensive, Less content to truck. Speaker 300:25:26Okay. And maybe if I can follow-up Speaker 800:25:27on this, but I'm curious, if somebody comes in and they're challenged on buying a new vehicle, Can you have you been able to transition those folks into buying a used vehicle that they can afford? I mean, what's the I mean, if you don't have the right vehicle for the sell them on the new vehicle side, which is harder and harder with pricing and affordability at the moment, Are you having success in working walking those guys across to the used vehicle department and selling them a vehicle there? Or is that just fundamentally a different consumer? Speaker 200:25:56Yes, John, I'll answer it. It's not. And it's usually a portion of your sales get transitioned to pre owned. As you can see, we have a lower day And it's more so about model mix than anything else in overall day supply. So there's no easy answer to your question. Speaker 200:26:15People constantly flip from new to pre owned, but it's about having the right pre owned vehicle that they're looking for in that segment. So we do it successfully naturally when the availability is there. When it's not there, that's obviously an issue that we have. Speaker 800:26:30Got it. And I apologize, I got on the call late. On the parts and service side, I mean, the same store sales were very strong. Is tech availability the gating factor? Is there something else If you're looking at should we be thinking about sort of as the constraint on that the same store sales growing there? Speaker 300:26:48Yes. This is Dan again. The tech availability, we will take every technician that is available out there for us. We all know how competitive this labor market is, but we put a tremendous amount of emphasis not only in Having good relationships with the local technical institutes, we're able to hire future technicians at a very entry level Point, if I may, and then developing them from within. So that has that is working out well for us in many of our markets. Speaker 300:27:20But certainly, we're not shying away from actively going after more technicians because we We have the bay capacity, and we just need to fill it out with more technicians. Speaker 200:27:35John, the one thing I would add, it's a choppy market in a lot of ways economically. But with the average age of the car over 12 years, History has shown those folks tend to hold on to their cars and invest in parts and service. So again, we see parts and service being healthy For many years to come. Speaker 800:27:56Okay. And then just lastly on the SG and A cost save side, I mean, how much opportunity is there to Take cost out at this point, David? Or is it really just a function of holding the line on costs and letting grosses improve over time as volume comes back? Speaker 200:28:13Yes. One of the several positive things we had happened during the quarter in all segments, our production per employee went up Even though we're a little bit depressed in some of the sales we had, that's just really working into our efficiencies with software And where we're trying to go. I would say that the volatility of the market for the next 12 to 18 months We'll make it difficult to look for a lot of opportunities to be lower than where we are. But we think 24 months out, With things that we're working on with our omnichannel and software approach, that there's another level for us to get to from a productivity per person, Which should create a tailwind down the road for us. Speaker 800:28:59Great. Thank you very much guys. Speaker 200:29:00Thank you. Operator00:29:13Our next question comes from Ryan Sigdahl with Craig Hallum Capital Group. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 700:29:21Good morning. Just one question for us on Clicklane. So when I look at the F and I, It increased quite a bit more sequentially than the overall business in the quarter. I get the underlying KPIs are good, but What do you attribute the biggest incremental improvement in ClickLane relative to the retail dealerships, specifically on the F and I piece? Speaker 200:29:43Ryan, this is David. It's interesting because we had the same question. I think the reality is when you're in the store, people selling products have preconceived notions about what someone's willing to buy. And I've stated it before, I'll say it again, it's pretty obvious. People love to buy things, but not so much be sold things. Speaker 200:30:05The opportunity for them to shop the F and I products on their own are still converting at a great rate. And it doesn't matter if it's used, it doesn't matter if it's import, domestic or luxury. We've been very happy with the self selection that our consumers are doing because there's no Asbury employee Intervening doing F and I sales, this is solely based on the customer. Speaker 700:30:31Helpful. Thanks guys. Good luck. Speaker 200:30:34Thank you. Operator00:30:38Our next question is from Rajant Gupta With JPMorgan, please proceed with your question. Speaker 900:30:46Great. Thanks for taking the questions. I just wanted to follow-up on the used car strategy around the volume versus GPU trade off. I mean, curious like how long you plan to persist with this approach, Given you lose the opportunity to book F and I and maybe parts and repair work down the line. Any thoughts on like how long this is going to persist and would you reevaluate this at some point Just to maybe retain that customer eventually. Speaker 900:31:24And I have a follow-up. Thanks. Speaker 200:31:26Rajat, this is David. We evaluate it every month. I would tell you, We will continue to have this approach as long as the inventory availability isn't there. Again, we think it's a couple of years depressed with COVID, and we think next year you'll start to see some of those cars come back in. So Maybe this entire year, we ride with that philosophy. Speaker 200:31:49But if the market shifts and it changes, we will adjust quickly to it. The benefit of that low day supply allows us to be pretty nimble. I can say, if we chase volume Other than our margin being down, our SG and A would have been up and our profitability would have been lower for our shareholders. So again, we're trying to maximize our returns right now. And based upon current market conditions, we think this is a Best approach to give the highest returns and to have our lowest SG and A. Speaker 900:32:24Got it. Very good. Thanks for clarifying that. Maybe just to get your thoughts on these price cuts from Tesla. I'm curious, with this like with this other round of price cuts more recently, Any feedback that you're hearing from the ground, from the GMs, SMs on how the consumers Are we acting to it? Speaker 900:32:50Anything you've heard from the OEMs or need or plans to counter this? Just Maybe like what you're hearing on the ground is just maybe what your thoughts are on the implications of this. And that's all I have. Speaker 200:33:05Okay, Rajat. This is David again. It's an excellent question and really complicated and tough to answer. Most of the legacy OEMs So really coming out with EVs now in scale with models. Depending upon whether they qualify for the tax Credit or not, that's certainly a good incentive and a good assist. Speaker 200:33:24Generally speaking, a lot of the cars coming to market now We're at a lower price point than Tesla's. So I assume that's part of the reason of what they did. But not all boats Floating equally, if you will. The demand for EV, will be interesting to see how it plays out over the next year relevant to what gets produced. I think traditionally what you'll see and we've seen for the last 4 decades as inventory starts to build, Incentives will start to increase. Speaker 200:33:57We're hopeful selfishly that a lot of those incentives will be driven through leasing, Because we really think the leasing volume really needs to get back up to speed to get that healthy return to our customer and retention levels. Speaker 900:34:13Got it. Got it. Thanks for the color. And maybe just one last one, sorry. On the 2025 targets, They were reiterated, but it looks like used vehicle growth is going to be a big driver for fitting those targets. Speaker 900:34:30With the embedded situation this year, perhaps extending into next year, I Are there any like other offsets that could still get you to those targets, maybe more M and A or maybe more persistent new car GPUs? Just curious around that comfort level, those targets and maybe like just the confidence for that have changed versus what you thought initially? Speaker 200:34:56Sure. This is David again, Rajat. As we stated last quarter, we were on a large acquisition That fell apart at the end. We have looked at other things in the market now. We're not at a point that we We would adjust our 25 year target, but we feel as a team, by the end of the year, we'll have a great line of sight So how we're tracking towards that 25 year target. Speaker 200:35:25We can control, how we're operating our same store growth within the market that we're in, But it's a little bit challenging with inventory levels and other things going on right now. So I would say look for an update for us at the end of 'twenty five. But a couple of acquisitions can put us right back on track for that. So it's too early for us to make any updates, and We intend to do that at the end of the year. Speaker 900:35:53Great. Thanks for all the color and good luck. Speaker 200:35:56Thank you. Operator00:35:59Our next question is from Glenn Chin with Seaport Research Partners. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 1000:36:07Thank you. Good morning, folks. Speaker 200:36:09Good morning. Speaker 1000:36:10Can you speak to the divergence in new unit performance by segment, Luxury import domestic, was it a function of the issue you touched on, David, that of pricing content of vehicles versus what Consumers were looking for and that's the fact that some of the domestic OEMs were slow to react with incentives? Speaker 200:36:32Sure. And obviously, it varies by market, whether it's Southeast, Southwest and so on, Midwest. I'd tell you, as you can see in our earnings release, on the import side, our largest flying brand is Toyota. The entire quarter, we had a single day supply of vehicles. In really the hot models, we didn't really have much inventory at all. Speaker 200:36:56Honda was our 2nd and we had an extremely most of the quarter single day supply. It jumped up towards the end of the quarter closer to mid teens day So the demand was there and the volume was there to do more, we think at a healthy margin. On the luxury side, Lexus is usually our number one volume. Again, during the quarter, we had a single day supply of Lexus And we know our sales were governed in the quarter and there were more sales available and a lot of cars were pre sold there. We still see pretty good demand in the luxury side. Speaker 200:37:35Now it's model based and it's certainly whether it's combustible or EV. But as we sit here today, we think our headwinds are getting our cost structure down on domestic vehicles. And we think we're fairly well aligned on the import and luxury side at this standpoint. Speaker 300:37:58All Speaker 1000:37:58right. So before when you talked about the issue, David, you mentioned that the domestic To slow to come to the market with incentives, the question is, has that changed? Or do you expect it to change? You expect them to come to market? Speaker 200:38:13Sure. Stellantis is the one that has the biggest impact on us. We have over a 60 day supply of Stellantis. We also have stop sale trucks in truck markets that make it difficult. So that's going to govern your sales as well. Speaker 200:38:31And their incentives have continued to increase, but they were slow to come to the table. So we have heavily contented trucks with incentives that are catching up and we still have stop sale vehicles as we sit here today. Speaker 1000:38:47Okay. And just to confirm, David, that's primarily Stellantis, you're not speaking of the DIGS-three overall? Speaker 200:38:54Yes. I would say, again, from a balance standpoint, we're seeing a majority of it with Stellantis right now. Speaker 1000:39:04Okay, very good. And then just a quick housekeeping question. On Clicklane, you normally specify The percent of customers that are new to Asbury, can you share that for this quarter? Speaker 200:39:19Sure. It was I think it was the same number as last quarter. It was 92%. Speaker 1000:39:26Okay, very good. Thank you. Speaker 200:39:28Thank you. Operator00:39:31Our next question is from Bret Jordan with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 600:39:37Hey, good morning. Speaker 200:39:38Good morning. Could you give Speaker 600:39:40us an update on the insurance products that you'd acquired for the Larry Miller acquisition? And I guess, Is there any obviously, it had some internal accounting issues, but is that changing the cadence of that rolling out across the broader Asbury Network. Speaker 400:39:57So just an update on that, we're rolling out through our legacy stores. We've rolled it into Colorado stores, Texas and St. Louis, we still have our large markets of Georgia and Florida to go later this year. And So we're making good progress on getting that rolled out, but it is a kind of steady progress over the remainder of the year. The deferral of that Come as we roll it out to our legacy stores. Speaker 400:40:22That's kind of the hit we take year 1 and then we get to recognize that income over the product life cycle. And so you'll see that hit kind of rollout toward the end of the year as we put on some of these larger groups in Georgia and Florida. So we're making good progress, kind of on target for what we thought we'd be. It's just a slow process throughout the entire 2023. Speaker 600:40:47Okay. And I guess with another quarter under your belt, do you have a feeling for sort of the cadence of the GPU trend? I think in your prepared remarks, Talked about sort of a 2 year trend, whatever the new normal is and maybe lower selling expenses. But when you think about sort of the mix of incentive and inventory recovery and obviously high rates, are we in a world with sustainably higher GPUs than pre pandemic or do you sort of see it going back to the 2000 ish new front ends? Speaker 300:41:22Hi, Brett. It's Dan. Good morning. It's a supply and demand Proposition and with the current inventory levels that we have, we see that sustaining the moment that we see higher day Come in and the higher availability of used cars, then certainly that's going to have an impact to the GPUs. Back to the GPUs, but I think we're a little bit away. Speaker 300:41:52I don't know exactly how far away we are, but it's not in the near future. Okay. Speaker 600:41:57But do you think we're structurally higher? Do you not expect us to see those pre-twenty twenty numbers again on new GPUs? Or are we sort of trending over the long term back Speaker 200:42:10Brett, this is David. I might be Pollyanna on this, but I don't see us getting back there. I think the OEMs are going to be a lot more efficient and better at day supply, And I think it will float higher. And specifically to Asbury, selling off the stores in Crown and Mississippi and with the acquisitions that we had We'll naturally be higher. And again, last couple of years, the press car, cars haven't been available. Speaker 200:42:39Average age of the car is 12 years. As long as we can keep the day supply in check, we think we can maintain healthy margins for the next couple of years, Albeit they may drop some, we don't see 2019 coming back anytime soon, if at all ever. Speaker 600:42:56Okay. And on that day supply, I mean, obviously, Stellantis, you said over 60. Is that strategic because they may be the UAW strike Example or are they just producing for the sake of producing? Speaker 200:43:10Yes, I would say, I don't know that answer specifically, But I would assume they've had less issues getting with their suppliers and getting the necessary products To put their vehicles content together, we've just been fortunate. But as a reminder, part of that day supply is stop sale vehicles On trucks that normally turn pretty quickly. 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There are 11 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Greetings, and welcome to Asbury Automotive Group's First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are on a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Karen Reed, Vice President and Corporate Treasurer. Operator00:00:28Thank you. You may begin. Speaker 100:00:31Thanks, Rob, and good morning, all. As noted, today's call is being recorded and will be available for replay later this afternoon. Welcome to Asbury Automotive Group's 1st Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. The press release detailing Asbury's Q1 results was issued earlier this morning and is posted on our website at investors. Asburyauto.com. Speaker 100:00:57Participating with me today David Holt, our President and Chief Executive Officer Dan Clara, our Senior Vice President of Operations and Michael Welch, Our Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. At the conclusion of our remarks, we will open the call up for questions and will be available later for any follow-up questions. Before we begin, we must remind you that the discussion during the call today is likely to contain forward looking statements. Forward looking statements are statements other than those which are historical in nature, which may include financial projections, forecasts and current expectations, each of which are subject to certain uncertainties. For information regarding certain of the risks that may cause actual results to differ materially from these statements, Please see our filings with the SEC from time to time, including our Form 10 ks for the year ended December 2022 and subsequently file quarterly reports on Form 10 Q and our earnings release issued earlier today. Speaker 100:02:06We expressly disclaim any responsibility to update forward looking statements. In addition, Certain non GAAP financial measures as defined under SEC rules may be discussed on this call. As required by applicable SEC rules, we provide reconciliations of any such non GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures on our website. We have also posted an updated investor presentation on our website, investors. Asburyauto.com highlighting our Q1 results. Speaker 100:02:42It is my pleasure to now hand the call over to our CEO, David Holt. David? Speaker 200:02:49Thank you, Karen, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to our Q1 earnings call. I am proud of the team's performance in Q1 and the execution of our business model across its diverse revenue and profit streams. As expected, we are starting to see trends as the industry begins to normalize. We are strategically operating within a changing environment and we continue to prioritize profitability. Speaker 200:03:21Over the last couple of years, Pre owned has been depleted due to fleet levels and lack of leasing. Overall, with this limited availability of pre owned inventory In an unbalanced new inventory by brand, we are focused on maximizing our gross profit streams. Now to our consolidated results. As a reminder, during 2022, we divested of 16 stores, 4 occurring in the 1st quarter, 3 in the 2nd quarter, and 9 in the 4th quarter. These stores contributed $683,000,000 in revenue last year. Speaker 200:04:07Now for the Q1 of 2023. We generated $3,600,000,000 in revenue, had a gross profit margin of 19.4%. Our SG and A as a percentage of gross profit was 57.9%, had an operating margin of 7.7% And our EBITDA was $294,000,000 We delivered an EPS of $8.37 And we repurchased 110,000 shares for $21,000,000 In addition, From the start of the Q2 through yesterday, we purchased 32,000 shares for $6,000,000 We continue to monitor the marketplace for acquisitions that meet our stringent thresholds for returns and that are a fit for the company from Our mindset continues to be that we are opportunistic, strategic and thoughtful in maximizing our returns for our shareholders. Now expanding to all stakeholders, I would like to highlight that we published our 2nd corporate responsibility report at the end of March. We invite you to read it if you haven't already. Speaker 200:05:27Finally, I would like to thank my fellow team members for a strong start to 2023. The guest centric experience begins with you, and we are looking forward to what is in store. Thank you. I will now hand the call over to Dan to discuss our operating performance. Dan? Speaker 300:05:45Thank you, David, and good morning, everyone. I would also like to extend my thanks to all of our hardworking team members For consistently delivering an exceptional guest experience. Now moving to the same store performance, which includes dealerships and TCA unless stated otherwise. As a reminder, we acquired many stores as well as TCA in late 2021, which have now entered our same store results for the quarter. Also, the 16 stores that were divested during 2022 are excluded from same store. Speaker 300:06:24Starting with new vehicles. Our new vehicle inventory ended the quarter at 640 $3,000,000 which represents a 30 day supply. Our day supply fluctuated by segment with domestic being at 63 days, Import at 18 days and luxury at 28 days and varying greatly among brands and models within those segments. Our new vehicle volume was down 4% year over year, while we grew new vehicle revenue by 3%. New average gross profit per vehicle was $5,184 a decrease of $6.16 from the prior year quarter. Speaker 300:07:08Turning to used vehicles. Used retail revenue was down 9% to prior year quarter, mainly due to the drop in cost of sales. Used retail gross profit per vehicle was $2,146 for the quarter, a decrease of $3.85 from the prior year quarter. Our used vehicle inventory ended the quarter at $309,000,000 which represents a 27 day supply. Shifting to F and I. Speaker 300:07:38We delivered an F and I PVR of $2,352 A decrease of $192 compared to the prior year quarter. Regarding consumer financing in general, We did not see a measurable impact of credit tightening in the quarter. In the Q1, our total front end year Per vehicle was $6,053 a decrease of $6.75 Moving to parts and service. Our parts and service business was a source of strength in the quarter. Revenue increased 12% in the quarter. Speaker 300:08:15Customer pay revenue continue its upward momentum with 14% growth and we expanded its gross profit by 13%. Now turning to ClickLane. Please note that for ClickLane, we are reporting on an all store basis. We set an all time record of over 10,800 vehicles through Clicklane in the Q1, a 93% increase year over year and a 28% increase over the previous best, which was last quarter. Approximately 16% of our Q1 of 2023 total retail sales were powered by ClickLearn and we achieved 39% of 2022 annual ClickLane sales in just the Q1. Speaker 300:09:03We generated approximately $450,000,000 in ClickLane revenue for the quarter and we are on track For our $2,500,000,000 revenue estimate for Click Link, our tool that offers a full omni channel experience and guest centric features. Moving on to some KPIs from the Q1. Average transaction time remained in line with prior quarters, 8 minutes for cash deals and 14 minutes for finance deals. Total front end PBR of $3,007 and an F and I PVR of $2,275 which equates to $5,876 of total front end yield. The average ClickLane customer credit score was 721, which is higher than the average credit score at our stores. Speaker 300:09:5689% of those that applied were approved for financing, of which 90% of those customers received instant approval, while the remaining customers require some offline assistance. 72% were lender finance sales and 28% were cash sales. The average Distance of a click lane delivery from our dealerships was 18.1 miles, which allows us to retain customers in our high margin parts and service departments. In our journey to become the most guest centric automotive retailer, we recognize that the most important differentiator that we have is the level of service we provide. Then trust, loyalty and retention naturally follow. Speaker 300:10:40I will now hand the call over to Michael to discuss our financial performance. Michael? Speaker 400:10:46Thank you, Dan. To our investors, analysts, Team members and other participants on our call, good morning. I would like to provide some financial highlights for our company. For additional details on our financial performance for the quarter, Please see our financial supplement in our press release today and our investor presentation on our website. Overall, net income was $181,000,000 and EPS was $8.37 for the quarter. Speaker 400:11:13There were no non GAAP adjustments to net income in the Q1 of 2023. Adjusted net income for the Q1 of 2022 excludes gains net of tax A $25,500,000 related to $33,100,000 gain on the sale of 4 dealerships And a $900,000 gain on a sale leaseback. This adjusted 2022 Q1 EPS by $1.11 to $9.27 Our effective tax rate for the Q1 of 2023 was 23.9% compared to 24.2% for the Q1 of 2022. We estimate our tax rate for the remainder of 2023 to be approximately 24.5%. Excluding real estate purchases, we spent approximately $15,000,000 on capital expenditures in the Q1. Speaker 400:12:09We expect full year 2023 CapEx to be $200,000,000 as we continue to roll out our planned CapEx related to our 2021 acquisitions. Of this $200,000,000 about $20,000,000 is expected to be related to replacement of leased properties. For the quarter, TCA made $17,000,000 of pre tax income, which excludes $3,000,000 of net unrealized gains. We have rolled out TCA to all of our stores in Colorado, Texas and St. Louis and we expect to deploy TCA into the rest of our stores by the end of 2020 Due to the deferral of the income associated with the store rollouts, we expect TCA to generate $25,000,000 of pre tax income for 2023, A decrease from the $80,000,000 in 2022. Speaker 400:12:57Our balance sheet remains strong as we ended the quarter with approximately $1,700,000,000 of liquidity Comprised of cash excluding cash at Total Care Auto, floorplan offset accounts and availability on both our used line and revolving credit facility. Even with our sizable acquisitions in recent years, we have managed our debt levels strategically to support a long term growth. Our pro form a adjusted net leverage was 1.6x at the end of March. For the Q1 of 2023, We generated $244,000,000 of adjusted operating cash flow, driven by our strong business model. With our robust cash flow generation, We have the flexibility to achieve our strategic goals and be able to seize opportunities. Speaker 400:13:43We constantly gauge the market for potential acquisitions that would further enhance our strong portfolio versus repurchasing shares to return capital to shareholders. Finally, I would also like to thank our Asbury team members. Our results are driven by your dedication to the guest centric model. I will now hand the call back over to David to provide some closing remarks. David? Speaker 200:14:04Thank you, Michael. I'm encouraged by our results, especially from a same store performance. In an aged car park, with still historically depressed SAAR levels And the complexity of newer cars such as EVs bodes well for our strong parts and service business. We have been and continue to be strategic in our philosophy and in our actions. With our strong cash flow and balance sheet, Which has grown more robust over time, we are opportunistic for potential acquisitions and buybacks. Speaker 200:14:37This concludes our prepared remarks. We'll now turn the call over to the operator and take your questions. Operator? Operator00:14:45Thank you. At this time, we'll be conducting a question and answer session. Our first question comes from Daniel Imbro with Stephens Inc. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 500:15:21Hey, good morning everybody. Thanks for taking our questions. Good morning. You guys have done a great job, I feel like, on the new vehicle side, especially with some of the elevated production at some of the domestic OEMs. I guess, one, other than Clicklane, are there things you guys are doing operationally to protect that GPU margin Or improve the vehicle sales trends? Speaker 500:15:41And then second as a related one, what percent of new units are sold on pre order today? Maybe how has that trended as we try to assess the demand backdrop here in terms of what's getting pre sold? Speaker 200:15:55Daniel, this is David. I'll take it and Dan can jump in. Last quarter, about 38 And our cars were pre sold on incoming. For Q1, it dropped to 33%. So we still think a pretty healthy number, but there certainly was a drop there as well. Speaker 200:16:12On the pre owned side, sequentially, we actually went up in PVR. We just determined that it didn't make sense to chase volume. Our gross profits are not so much about the sale price, but the acquisition price, because the market dictates what the selling price is going to be. So we weren't aggressive at buying cars from auctions or anything like that. We focused on trade ins, off lease vehicles And purchasing cars direct from consumer. Speaker 200:16:41We felt it was a better trade off to have lower volume and higher gross profits, which Really generated a better EPS for us overall. Speaker 300:16:52David, I have nothing to add. I think you covered it well. Speaker 500:16:55And then on that used side, thank you for that. Maybe to follow-up, it's still obviously a point of weakness out there in the market. Are you seeing any discernible change in the Pre owned buyer or consumer, are you seeing a trade down? Are you seeing lower product attachment on F and I? Anything that would tell you that consumer is Materially changing from how they've been the last couple of quarters? Speaker 200:17:16You can see on our cost of sale, it dropped a little bit for the first time in a couple of years. So we see that as a good sign. Certainly, with all the interest rate increases over time, that's put more pressure on the payment. So I think people are not reacting as quickly and being more thoughtful about taking time. The biggest challenge right now, as you can imagine, It's finding the right fit, really trying to find those cars that people are looking for, so you can turn them in a quick manner, if you will. Speaker 200:17:49So again, we believe the focus almost 70% of the cars that we're selling right now are trade ins and off lease vehicles. And we feel if we can maintain that, we can hold on to margin as best we can, which is what our focus is going to be. Speaker 500:18:07Great. And then last one for me, Michael, as a follow-up on the financials. I guess, dollars 1,100,000,000 of cash on the balance sheet. You just did the divestitures in 4Q. What is the appetite for M and A? Speaker 500:18:17And are there any certain markets or brands you would like to fill in or trying to fill in specifically with that cash? Speaker 400:18:24Yes, I mean, we're still out there looking strategically for acquisitions. We like the markets we're in. We try to find those strategic acquisitions that make sense for us and then comparing that to the share buyback opportunities That are out there in the market as well. So trying to balance those two items with the cash, with the environment, what it is and the uncertainties Just in the economy, I think being a little bit just strategic with our cash and waiting for the right opportunities is the best approach right now, Just without uncertainty in the markets. Speaker 200:18:58And this is David. I'll just say we're seeing a good amount of M and A activity and seeing opportunities come our way. Just haven't been able to land something that we feel really strongly about. Speaker 500:19:11Great. Well, best of luck going forward and thanks for all the detail. Speaker 200:19:14Thank you. Operator00:19:17Our next question is from Adam Jonas with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 600:19:24Hey, everybody. Good morning. So my first question is, I think in your prepared remarks, You said that there was no measurable sign of financial tightening during the quarter. How about after the quarter? Speaker 700:19:44My first question. Speaker 200:19:45Yes. Adam, this is David. Not yet. I would tell you, as a reminder, we normally state that our subprime as a percentage of our business is about 10%. Last month in the quarter, it was just over 7% of our business. Speaker 200:20:04So our core customer is over 700 credit score. We have over 250 lenders that were signed up with. So we have a lot of options and we're not seeing any tightening as we sit here today. Speaker 600:20:17Okay. So just to interpret that, going from 10 to 7, maybe there is tightening, but you don't see it because it's happening on the lender side, Right. Is that a fair interpretation? Yes. Speaker 200:20:31Well, so I would tell Our store locations, our go to market and how we go after business, we're just not aggressive looking for subprime. So I wouldn't say this I wouldn't look at it that way as much. And as you can imagine with those number of lenders that we have, Certainly, some have tightened up their practices compared to others. But again, because of the majority of the A plurality of the banks that we have available to us, we just don't have an issue seeking lending. Speaker 600:21:06I got it. Thanks, David. Just a follow-up. Can you update us on your current percentage of your new sales that are ordered to delivery or pre ordered, let's say, maybe How that's trended, where that was kind of exiting last year or a year ago? And then any comment on ATP versus MSRP, That gap there would also be helpful given the environment. Speaker 600:21:31Thanks. Speaker 200:21:32Sure. I hope I get all of Last quarter, Q4 of 'twenty two, 38% of our vehicles were pre sold that were incoming. In Q1, it was 33%. So a little bit of a drop off there. Speaker 100:21:47ATP versus MSRP. Speaker 200:21:49Yes. And I would say percentage of MSRP, It's just like you would expect. Certain models that have a single day supply is certainly holding to MSRP and vehicles that we have Say north of a 40 day supply of vehicles, we're certainly discounting at this point. Speaker 600:22:06Thanks, David. Speaker 500:22:08You got it. Operator00:22:12Our next question is from John Murphy with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 800:22:17Good morning, guys. I just wanted to get into one thing about your new vehicle affordability and everybody Claims that it's a real issue, and it is for the consumer, but it may be not such a big issue for you because Putting up record profits or near record profits, things are pretty healthy for you in the business. So as you think about somebody coming in and they're challenged From an affordability perspective and buying a new vehicle, what's the process and how successful are you in transitioning them to Buying a used vehicle and or transitioning them into parts and service Customer, 2 avenues where you make pretty good profits relative to even the new vehicle side. Speaker 300:23:05John, good morning. This is Dan. So from the first aspect of the affordability from a new car perspective, We're starting to see, I would say, slowly but surely in taking a faster pace for a lack of better term, the leasing aspect of it. So as you see the challenging or the opportunity on the price of a new car that leasing Coming back really allows consumer to be able to get into that color that they want for a lower payment. And we all know the benefits that's going to have from a used car perspective 3 years down the road, getting those lease returns back. Speaker 300:23:48We know that The first car that we sell at our dealership is all done from the sales department, but the second, 3rd, 4th and so on is all done through service. So that turnover, if I may, that we do transaction wise From sales to services is extremely important, not just on making sure That we respect people's time. That's why we put so much focus on the cycle time, making sure that when they come in for that first service, they're getting in and out And getting their services completed because we know that to the extent that we respect people's time, their loyalty is going to continue to grow with us. And then as I mentioned, earlier comment, if we do a good job in the service retention, we're going to continue to sell the cars in the years to come. Speaker 200:24:43John, the one thing I would add that we did see in the Q1 Related to pressure and pricing, some of our domestics was really we had an imbalance of inventory in the sense of There were heavy content in vehicles that were built during the chip shortage. Everyone went with the heavy content in the vehicles. And in the Q1, especially on the domestic side, people were looking for less expensive trucks than what we had and there was a slow Approach on incentives there. So I think we're certainly seeing it on the truck side in the sense of people looking for a little bit less expensive, Less content to truck. Speaker 300:25:26Okay. And maybe if I can follow-up Speaker 800:25:27on this, but I'm curious, if somebody comes in and they're challenged on buying a new vehicle, Can you have you been able to transition those folks into buying a used vehicle that they can afford? I mean, what's the I mean, if you don't have the right vehicle for the sell them on the new vehicle side, which is harder and harder with pricing and affordability at the moment, Are you having success in working walking those guys across to the used vehicle department and selling them a vehicle there? Or is that just fundamentally a different consumer? Speaker 200:25:56Yes, John, I'll answer it. It's not. And it's usually a portion of your sales get transitioned to pre owned. As you can see, we have a lower day And it's more so about model mix than anything else in overall day supply. So there's no easy answer to your question. Speaker 200:26:15People constantly flip from new to pre owned, but it's about having the right pre owned vehicle that they're looking for in that segment. So we do it successfully naturally when the availability is there. When it's not there, that's obviously an issue that we have. Speaker 800:26:30Got it. And I apologize, I got on the call late. On the parts and service side, I mean, the same store sales were very strong. Is tech availability the gating factor? Is there something else If you're looking at should we be thinking about sort of as the constraint on that the same store sales growing there? Speaker 300:26:48Yes. This is Dan again. The tech availability, we will take every technician that is available out there for us. We all know how competitive this labor market is, but we put a tremendous amount of emphasis not only in Having good relationships with the local technical institutes, we're able to hire future technicians at a very entry level Point, if I may, and then developing them from within. So that has that is working out well for us in many of our markets. Speaker 300:27:20But certainly, we're not shying away from actively going after more technicians because we We have the bay capacity, and we just need to fill it out with more technicians. Speaker 200:27:35John, the one thing I would add, it's a choppy market in a lot of ways economically. But with the average age of the car over 12 years, History has shown those folks tend to hold on to their cars and invest in parts and service. So again, we see parts and service being healthy For many years to come. Speaker 800:27:56Okay. And then just lastly on the SG and A cost save side, I mean, how much opportunity is there to Take cost out at this point, David? Or is it really just a function of holding the line on costs and letting grosses improve over time as volume comes back? Speaker 200:28:13Yes. One of the several positive things we had happened during the quarter in all segments, our production per employee went up Even though we're a little bit depressed in some of the sales we had, that's just really working into our efficiencies with software And where we're trying to go. I would say that the volatility of the market for the next 12 to 18 months We'll make it difficult to look for a lot of opportunities to be lower than where we are. But we think 24 months out, With things that we're working on with our omnichannel and software approach, that there's another level for us to get to from a productivity per person, Which should create a tailwind down the road for us. Speaker 800:28:59Great. Thank you very much guys. Speaker 200:29:00Thank you. Operator00:29:13Our next question comes from Ryan Sigdahl with Craig Hallum Capital Group. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 700:29:21Good morning. Just one question for us on Clicklane. So when I look at the F and I, It increased quite a bit more sequentially than the overall business in the quarter. I get the underlying KPIs are good, but What do you attribute the biggest incremental improvement in ClickLane relative to the retail dealerships, specifically on the F and I piece? Speaker 200:29:43Ryan, this is David. It's interesting because we had the same question. I think the reality is when you're in the store, people selling products have preconceived notions about what someone's willing to buy. And I've stated it before, I'll say it again, it's pretty obvious. People love to buy things, but not so much be sold things. Speaker 200:30:05The opportunity for them to shop the F and I products on their own are still converting at a great rate. And it doesn't matter if it's used, it doesn't matter if it's import, domestic or luxury. We've been very happy with the self selection that our consumers are doing because there's no Asbury employee Intervening doing F and I sales, this is solely based on the customer. Speaker 700:30:31Helpful. Thanks guys. Good luck. Speaker 200:30:34Thank you. Operator00:30:38Our next question is from Rajant Gupta With JPMorgan, please proceed with your question. Speaker 900:30:46Great. Thanks for taking the questions. I just wanted to follow-up on the used car strategy around the volume versus GPU trade off. I mean, curious like how long you plan to persist with this approach, Given you lose the opportunity to book F and I and maybe parts and repair work down the line. Any thoughts on like how long this is going to persist and would you reevaluate this at some point Just to maybe retain that customer eventually. Speaker 900:31:24And I have a follow-up. Thanks. Speaker 200:31:26Rajat, this is David. We evaluate it every month. I would tell you, We will continue to have this approach as long as the inventory availability isn't there. Again, we think it's a couple of years depressed with COVID, and we think next year you'll start to see some of those cars come back in. So Maybe this entire year, we ride with that philosophy. Speaker 200:31:49But if the market shifts and it changes, we will adjust quickly to it. The benefit of that low day supply allows us to be pretty nimble. I can say, if we chase volume Other than our margin being down, our SG and A would have been up and our profitability would have been lower for our shareholders. So again, we're trying to maximize our returns right now. And based upon current market conditions, we think this is a Best approach to give the highest returns and to have our lowest SG and A. Speaker 900:32:24Got it. Very good. Thanks for clarifying that. Maybe just to get your thoughts on these price cuts from Tesla. I'm curious, with this like with this other round of price cuts more recently, Any feedback that you're hearing from the ground, from the GMs, SMs on how the consumers Are we acting to it? Speaker 900:32:50Anything you've heard from the OEMs or need or plans to counter this? Just Maybe like what you're hearing on the ground is just maybe what your thoughts are on the implications of this. And that's all I have. Speaker 200:33:05Okay, Rajat. This is David again. It's an excellent question and really complicated and tough to answer. Most of the legacy OEMs So really coming out with EVs now in scale with models. Depending upon whether they qualify for the tax Credit or not, that's certainly a good incentive and a good assist. Speaker 200:33:24Generally speaking, a lot of the cars coming to market now We're at a lower price point than Tesla's. So I assume that's part of the reason of what they did. But not all boats Floating equally, if you will. The demand for EV, will be interesting to see how it plays out over the next year relevant to what gets produced. I think traditionally what you'll see and we've seen for the last 4 decades as inventory starts to build, Incentives will start to increase. Speaker 200:33:57We're hopeful selfishly that a lot of those incentives will be driven through leasing, Because we really think the leasing volume really needs to get back up to speed to get that healthy return to our customer and retention levels. Speaker 900:34:13Got it. Got it. Thanks for the color. And maybe just one last one, sorry. On the 2025 targets, They were reiterated, but it looks like used vehicle growth is going to be a big driver for fitting those targets. Speaker 900:34:30With the embedded situation this year, perhaps extending into next year, I Are there any like other offsets that could still get you to those targets, maybe more M and A or maybe more persistent new car GPUs? Just curious around that comfort level, those targets and maybe like just the confidence for that have changed versus what you thought initially? Speaker 200:34:56Sure. This is David again, Rajat. As we stated last quarter, we were on a large acquisition That fell apart at the end. We have looked at other things in the market now. We're not at a point that we We would adjust our 25 year target, but we feel as a team, by the end of the year, we'll have a great line of sight So how we're tracking towards that 25 year target. Speaker 200:35:25We can control, how we're operating our same store growth within the market that we're in, But it's a little bit challenging with inventory levels and other things going on right now. So I would say look for an update for us at the end of 'twenty five. But a couple of acquisitions can put us right back on track for that. So it's too early for us to make any updates, and We intend to do that at the end of the year. Speaker 900:35:53Great. Thanks for all the color and good luck. Speaker 200:35:56Thank you. Operator00:35:59Our next question is from Glenn Chin with Seaport Research Partners. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 1000:36:07Thank you. Good morning, folks. Speaker 200:36:09Good morning. Speaker 1000:36:10Can you speak to the divergence in new unit performance by segment, Luxury import domestic, was it a function of the issue you touched on, David, that of pricing content of vehicles versus what Consumers were looking for and that's the fact that some of the domestic OEMs were slow to react with incentives? Speaker 200:36:32Sure. And obviously, it varies by market, whether it's Southeast, Southwest and so on, Midwest. I'd tell you, as you can see in our earnings release, on the import side, our largest flying brand is Toyota. The entire quarter, we had a single day supply of vehicles. In really the hot models, we didn't really have much inventory at all. Speaker 200:36:56Honda was our 2nd and we had an extremely most of the quarter single day supply. It jumped up towards the end of the quarter closer to mid teens day So the demand was there and the volume was there to do more, we think at a healthy margin. On the luxury side, Lexus is usually our number one volume. Again, during the quarter, we had a single day supply of Lexus And we know our sales were governed in the quarter and there were more sales available and a lot of cars were pre sold there. We still see pretty good demand in the luxury side. Speaker 200:37:35Now it's model based and it's certainly whether it's combustible or EV. But as we sit here today, we think our headwinds are getting our cost structure down on domestic vehicles. And we think we're fairly well aligned on the import and luxury side at this standpoint. Speaker 300:37:58All Speaker 1000:37:58right. So before when you talked about the issue, David, you mentioned that the domestic To slow to come to the market with incentives, the question is, has that changed? Or do you expect it to change? You expect them to come to market? Speaker 200:38:13Sure. Stellantis is the one that has the biggest impact on us. We have over a 60 day supply of Stellantis. We also have stop sale trucks in truck markets that make it difficult. So that's going to govern your sales as well. Speaker 200:38:31And their incentives have continued to increase, but they were slow to come to the table. So we have heavily contented trucks with incentives that are catching up and we still have stop sale vehicles as we sit here today. Speaker 1000:38:47Okay. And just to confirm, David, that's primarily Stellantis, you're not speaking of the DIGS-three overall? Speaker 200:38:54Yes. I would say, again, from a balance standpoint, we're seeing a majority of it with Stellantis right now. Speaker 1000:39:04Okay, very good. And then just a quick housekeeping question. On Clicklane, you normally specify The percent of customers that are new to Asbury, can you share that for this quarter? Speaker 200:39:19Sure. It was I think it was the same number as last quarter. It was 92%. Speaker 1000:39:26Okay, very good. Thank you. Speaker 200:39:28Thank you. Operator00:39:31Our next question is from Bret Jordan with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question. Speaker 600:39:37Hey, good morning. Speaker 200:39:38Good morning. Could you give Speaker 600:39:40us an update on the insurance products that you'd acquired for the Larry Miller acquisition? And I guess, Is there any obviously, it had some internal accounting issues, but is that changing the cadence of that rolling out across the broader Asbury Network. Speaker 400:39:57So just an update on that, we're rolling out through our legacy stores. We've rolled it into Colorado stores, Texas and St. Louis, we still have our large markets of Georgia and Florida to go later this year. And So we're making good progress on getting that rolled out, but it is a kind of steady progress over the remainder of the year. The deferral of that Come as we roll it out to our legacy stores. Speaker 400:40:22That's kind of the hit we take year 1 and then we get to recognize that income over the product life cycle. And so you'll see that hit kind of rollout toward the end of the year as we put on some of these larger groups in Georgia and Florida. So we're making good progress, kind of on target for what we thought we'd be. It's just a slow process throughout the entire 2023. Speaker 600:40:47Okay. And I guess with another quarter under your belt, do you have a feeling for sort of the cadence of the GPU trend? I think in your prepared remarks, Talked about sort of a 2 year trend, whatever the new normal is and maybe lower selling expenses. But when you think about sort of the mix of incentive and inventory recovery and obviously high rates, are we in a world with sustainably higher GPUs than pre pandemic or do you sort of see it going back to the 2000 ish new front ends? Speaker 300:41:22Hi, Brett. It's Dan. Good morning. It's a supply and demand Proposition and with the current inventory levels that we have, we see that sustaining the moment that we see higher day Come in and the higher availability of used cars, then certainly that's going to have an impact to the GPUs. Back to the GPUs, but I think we're a little bit away. Speaker 300:41:52I don't know exactly how far away we are, but it's not in the near future. Okay. Speaker 600:41:57But do you think we're structurally higher? Do you not expect us to see those pre-twenty twenty numbers again on new GPUs? Or are we sort of trending over the long term back Speaker 200:42:10Brett, this is David. I might be Pollyanna on this, but I don't see us getting back there. I think the OEMs are going to be a lot more efficient and better at day supply, And I think it will float higher. And specifically to Asbury, selling off the stores in Crown and Mississippi and with the acquisitions that we had We'll naturally be higher. And again, last couple of years, the press car, cars haven't been available. Speaker 200:42:39Average age of the car is 12 years. As long as we can keep the day supply in check, we think we can maintain healthy margins for the next couple of years, Albeit they may drop some, we don't see 2019 coming back anytime soon, if at all ever. Speaker 600:42:56Okay. And on that day supply, I mean, obviously, Stellantis, you said over 60. Is that strategic because they may be the UAW strike Example or are they just producing for the sake of producing? Speaker 200:43:10Yes, I would say, I don't know that answer specifically, But I would assume they've had less issues getting with their suppliers and getting the necessary products To put their vehicles content together, we've just been fortunate. But as a reminder, part of that day supply is stop sale vehicles On trucks that normally turn pretty quickly. So as those trucks sit for a couple of months and we can't sell them, it's certainly hurting the day supply. Speaker 600:43:42Okay, great. Thank you. Speaker 200:43:44Thank you. That concludes today's call. We appreciate everyone participating today. We look forward Operator00:43:57This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and we thank you for yourRead moreRemove AdsPowered by