NYSE:RS Reliance Q1 2023 Earnings Report $276.97 +1.77 (+0.64%) Closing price 04/17/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$277.47 +0.50 (+0.18%) As of 04/17/2025 06:18 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Reliance EPS ResultsActual EPS$6.37Consensus EPS $5.70Beat/MissBeat by +$0.67One Year Ago EPS$8.42Reliance Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$3.97 billionExpected Revenue$3.92 billionBeat/MissBeat by +$42.18 millionYoY Revenue Growth-11.60%Reliance Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2023Date4/27/2023TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateThursday, April 27, 2023Conference Call Time11:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsReliance's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Wednesday, April 23, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, April 24, 2025 at 11:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Reliance Q1 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrApril 27, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00And welcome to the Reliance Steel and Aluminum Company First Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Kim Orlano with Idol Investor Relations. Operator00:00:32Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:35Thank you, operator. Good morning, and thanks to all of you for joining our conference call to discuss Reliance's 1st quarter 2023 Financial Results. I am joined by Carla Lewis, President and Chief Executive Officer Steve Cook, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer and Arthur Agyemian, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. A recording of this call will be posted on the Investors section of our website at investor.rsac.com. The press release and the information on this call may contain certain forward looking statements, which are based on a number of assumptions that are subject to change and involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties or other factors, including the impacts of inflation, geopolitics and the COVID-nineteen pandemic and related economic conditions on our future operations, which may not be under the company's control and may cause actual results, performance or achievement of the company to be materially different from the results, performance or other expectations implied by these forward looking statements. Speaker 100:01:43These factors include, but are not limited to, those factors disclosed in the company's annual report on Form 10 ks for the year ended December 31, 2022, under the caption Risk Factors, disclosure in our press release this morning and other documents Reliance files or furnishes with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The press release and the information on this call speak only as of today's date, and the company disclaims any duty to update the information provided therein and herein. I will now turn the call over to Carla Lewis, President and CEO of Reliance. Speaker 200:02:22Good morning, everyone, and thank you all for joining us today to discuss our Q1 2023 financial results. I'll begin with an overview of our performance and capital allocation strategy. Steve will then speak to our operating results and demand trends by end market, and Arthur will conclude with a review of our financial results and outlook for the Q2 of 2023. Beginning with our Q1 performance, we started the year off strong as our highly diversified business model continued to yield favorable results in an uncertain business environment. Our first quarter net sales of $3,970,000,000 increased approximately 10% from the Q4 of 2022. Speaker 200:03:10Our sales benefited from solid demand in the vast majority of our end markets with our tons sold up 17.7% from the Q4 of 2022, which were partially offset by a lower average selling price. This was the highest sequential increase from the Q4 we've seen in our tons sold in the last decade. Our strong volumes, which benefited from our investments in organic growth, a robust gross profit margin of 30.9% and disciplined expense control helped drive pretax income of $508,500,000 and diluted earnings per share of $6.43 well ahead of our expectations. Our strong profitability, along with effective working capital management, enabled us to generate significant 1st quarter operating cash flow of 384 dollars 600,000 Turning to capital allocation. Our consistent cash generation continues to fuel our strategy of investing in growth activities and returning capital to our stockholders. Speaker 200:04:26Our capital expenditure budget for the full year 2023 remains a record $500,000,000 with spend of $102,900,000 in the 1st quarter and an expected total cash outlay of approximately $400,000,000 to $450,000,000 this year. We expect approximately 2 thirds of this budget will be invested in growth projects, up from roughly 50% historically as we continue to invest in various facility upgrades, efficiencies and expansion into new markets. Our investments include new cutting edge equipment to expand our value added processing capabilities to further bolster our market position and margin profile as well as investments to provide safer working environments for our employees. While we did not complete any acquisitions during the Q1, the pipeline remains healthy. We continue to evaluate a wide variety of prospective opportunities and remain well positioned to pursue those that meet our disciplined criteria for high quality growth. Speaker 200:05:37Concurrent with our growth initiatives, we returned $100,900,000 to our stockholders in the Q1 we are committed to a combination of dividends and share repurchases. Since 2018, we have allocated over $2,000,000,000 of capital towards organic growth and acquisitions and nearly $2,800,000,000 towards stockholder returns in the form of dividends and share repurchases. In summary, we are very pleased with our Q1 performance, both operationally and financially. We continue to execute our strategy in a dynamic environment with metal pricing volatility, ongoing inflationary headwinds, recessionary concerns, supply chain disruptions and labor shortages. Nevertheless, our managers in the field continue to do an excellent job upholding our superior levels of service and providing increasing levels of value to our we maintain our belief that Reliance remains very well positioned to capitalize on opportunities resulting from the Infrastructure Bill, the CHIPS Act and the Inflation Reduction Act in an environment with relatively higher metal pricing versus historical levels. Speaker 200:06:57Thank you to our extraordinary team at Reliance for your commitments to working safely and successfully executing our model. Thank you all for your time today. I'll now turn the call over to Steve, we will review our Q1 operating results and demand trends. Speaker 300:07:16Thanks, Carla, and good morning, everyone. I'd also like to express my gratitude to our dedicated team at Reliance for their outstanding operational execution and ongoing commitment to safety. I'll now turn to our Q1 demand and pricing trends. Our tons sold increased 17.7% compared to the Q4 of 2022, surpassing our expectations of up 11% to 13% and vastly exceeding the typical seasonal recovery. Compared to the prior year period, our tons sold were up 7.2%, higher than the service center industry increase of 5.5% as reported by the MSCI, the performance was supported by organic growth activities we've invested in over the course of the past several years, along with our end market and product diversification, broad value added processing capabilities and ability to service quick turnaround orders, continued strength in the non residential construction, general manufacturing and aerospace end markets further contributed to our strong shipment levels in the quarter. Speaker 300:08:19Additionally, rising metal cost trends incentivized many customers to reenter the market ahead of further price increases, which led to strengthened demand for our carbon steel flat rolled products. Shipments for the other carbon steel products we sell also increased both sequentially and year over year. Our 1st quarter average selling price per ton sold of $2,623 declined 6.3% compared to the Q4 of 2022 exceeding our expected decrease of 3% to 5%, largely due to shifts in product mix. Relative to the Q4, the increase in carbon steel product shipments, which have a lower average selling price in stainless steel aluminum products contributed to a shift in our product mix resulting in a lower realized sales price per ton sold. While our overall quarterly average selling price per ton sold decreased, pricing for most products we sell stabilized during the Q1. Speaker 300:09:17It's also important to note that announced carbon steel flat rolled price increases were only partially realized during the Q1 with more to come in the Q2. Arthur will cover our Q2 2023 outlook in more detail. On a non GAAP FIFO basis, which is how we monitor our day to day operating performance, our gross profit margin increased by 190 basis points to 30.5 percent compared to the prior quarter due to better alignment of inventory costs on hand with replacement costs. I'll now turn to a high level overview of the trends we saw within our key end markets. Notably, shipments improved both year over year and quarter over we are in nearly every end market with continued strength in non res construction, general manufacturing, auto through our tolling operations, Aerospace and Energy. Speaker 300:10:05While sales to the semiconductor industry declined sequentially, they remained at an elevated levels compared to the Q1 of 2022. Our long term outlook for this market remains positive and we will continue to make investments to increase Reliance's capacity in semiconductor space to support the significant expansion of semiconductor fabrication underway in the United States. Separately, we will also continue to make investments in our we expect to execute on the infrastructure and clean energy to support anticipated higher activity in these areas. Please refer to our earnings release for additional commentary on our end markets. Overall, we remain confident underlying demand will remain healthy across the majority of the end markets we serve in the Q2 of 2023. Speaker 300:10:50I'll now turn the call over to Arthur to review our financial results and outlook. Speaker 400:10:55Thanks, Steve. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. As Carla highlighted, ongoing strong demand contributed to non GAAP earnings per share of $6.37 well ahead of our guidance of $5.40 to $5.60 per share. The stronger than anticipated 17.7 sequential increase in our tons sold also exceeded our guidance and accounted for the majority of the earnings per share outperformance. While our overall quarterly average selling price per ton declined from the previous quarter due to the entry point into Q1 being lower than the prior quarter average and a shift in our product mix, our selling prices remained relatively stable throughout the Q1. Speaker 400:11:46In an environment of relatively flat pricing for the vast majority of the products we sell, we improved our transactional or FIFO gross profit margins that's without the impact of LIFO adjustments from the Q4 of 2022 as our inventory turn rate accelerated and costs on hand continue to better align with lower replacement costs. Additionally, we realized a significant amount of operating leverage on the incremental tons we shipped. These factors collectively contributed to the better than expected results for the Q1. We recorded LIFO income of $15,000,000 in the Q1 of 2023 compared to $99,100,000 of LIFO income in the Q4 of 2022 and LIFO expense of $37,500,000 in the Q1 of 2022. Our current estimate of $60,000,000 of LIFO income for fiscal 2023 remains unchanged from our previous outlook. Speaker 400:12:53As a result, we currently expect to record $15,000,000 of LIFO income in the Q2 of 2023. Consistent with historical practice, we will update our expectations quarterly to account for actual inventory costs and metal pricing trends. As of March 31, 2023, the LIFO reserve on our balance sheet was about 7 dollars 29,000,000 which will generate LIFO income and benefit future period operating results to mitigate the impact of potential declines in metal prices. Moving on to expenses. Our first quarter non GAAP SG and A expenses increased $43,200,000 or 7% compared to the Q4 of 2022, due primarily to higher incentive compensation associated with higher profitability, as well as higher variable warehousing and delivery expenses associated with higher tons shipped. Speaker 400:13:59On a year over year basis, non GAAP SG and A expenses increased $43,300,000 or 7.1 percent, primarily due to incremental variable costs associated with higher tons shipped and inflationary wage adjustments, which were partially offset by lower incentive based compensation resulting from lower FIFO profitability. Earnings to cash flow. Despite about $100,000,000 of working capital investments in the Q1, we generated cash flow from operations of $384,600,000 supported by our strong earnings. Our inventory turn rate based on tons improved in the Q1 of 2023 to 4.9x or 2.4 months on hand, up from 4.4x or 2.7 months on hand for all of 2022 and exceeding our company wide turn goal of 4.7x. Our day sales outstanding was approximately 40 days, in line Oresta historical range of 39 to 43 days. Speaker 400:15:14Our operating cash flow funded $102,900,000 of record quarterly capital expenditures and the return of 100 dollars 900,000 to our stockholders in the form of $62,000,000 of cash dividends and $38,900,000 of share repurchases. As of March 31, 2023, approximately $641,800,000 remained available on our one $1,000,000,000 share repurchase authorization. I'll now turn to our 2nd quarter outlook. While we expect underlying demand will remain healthy in the Q2 of 2023, we expect our tons sold will be flat to down 2% in the Q2 of 2023 compared to the Q1 of 2023 due to one less shipping day in the Q2 of 'twenty three and the absence of the demand pull forward experienced in the Q1 of 2023. We anticipate overall pricing to remain fairly stable with slight upside from recently announced carbon steel price increases. Speaker 400:16:29Accordingly, we estimate our average selling price per ton sold in the Q2 of 2023, we'll be flat to up 2% compared to the Q1 of 2023. Based on these expectations, we anticipate non GAAP earnings per diluted share in the range of 6.40 to $6.60 for the Q2 of 2023. In closing, we're very pleased with our solid start to the year with strong shipment levels, earnings and cash flow despite continued macroeconomic uncertainty. This concludes our prepared remarks. Thank you for your attention. Speaker 400:17:12And at this time, we'd like to open the call up to questions. Operator? Operator00:17:35Question from the queue. One moment please while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from Emily Chang with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:17:56Good morning, Carla, Arthur and Steve. Thanks I wanted to ask around the shipment levels in 1Q and then the outlook for 2Q. So I know you mentioned that there was Some demand pull forward in the Q1. Perhaps could you give us a sense as to if there wasn't this pull forward, what shipments have been? And then as you look into the Q2, if there's no demand pull forward there, are you getting a sense that there's a sign there's any indications of perhaps demand being pushed out given the macro uncertainty. Speaker 200:18:29Hi, Emily. Thanks for joining the call today. So on the demand side, we were very pleasantly surprised a bit with the strength of the demand pull forward and Sorry, of our shipments during the Q1, it was higher than our typical seasonality bounce back. Part of that, we mentioned that related to some of our organic growth activities. So we had a couple of our newer plants that are on campus with some of our good mill partners and with their ramp ups, we also benefited from more shipments out of those locations that contributed. Speaker 200:19:16But even without that and the pull forward, we had guided to a slightly stronger than normal seasonal bounce back Really because our customers continue to be busy. They're still struggling to find the labor they need, which extends some of the strength in their businesses for continued shipments, so we're pleased with what we see. Q2 guidance really we've got one less shipping day. So that's the majority of the guide. We're typically our Q1 and Q2 are generally pretty flat, historically. Speaker 200:19:56And we had good strong shipments in Q1 and we're looking for something similar to that in Q2 minus The one day and the little bit of demand pull forward we had with the dynamics on the Carbon steel flat rolled pricing in the quarter. Speaker 500:20:16Great. That's very clear. Question just around the end markets then. Has there been anything that has been impacted by some of the credit tightening that we've seen? And have there been any signs of project delays or cancellations? Speaker 500:20:32It's been good to see some inflow from the infrastructure side, but curious if there's anything that you're seeing a little weakness there? Speaker 200:20:41Yes. So we certainly understand that people I have concerns and there's speculation that we're seeing that. We haven't seen it yet. We're not saying that we might not See some of it later in the year, but going into Q2, our customers have strong backlogs and projects Operator00:21:15Next question comes from Timna Tanners with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:21:22Yes. Hey, good morning, guys. Speaker 400:21:24Hey, Timna. Good morning. Speaker 600:21:25I wanted to ask to follow-up on Emily's question. We've heard From some of the smaller service centers that they're struggling with higher interest rates. So, could you be perhaps gaining share if some of your competitors are having a harder time accessing capital and because it doesn't sound like that's an issue for you. So just wondering about that competitive dynamic. Speaker 200:21:46Yes. Hey, Timna. So we are not aware of that. We have heard some comments by people that some of the service centers may be struggling. For us, that is where it is typically favorable for us and where our customers still seem healthy as well. Speaker 200:22:09But if they're trying to manage their credit limits more tightly. That's usually favorable for us because of our smaller we're able to Smaller order sizes on a frequent basis. So it does create a favorable environment for us and we do pick up some market Sure sometimes in those types of environments. Speaker 600:22:35Okay. That's helpful. Alongside your mix, you mentioned the Higher sheet prices. There's also been some big plate increases. I know you're decent in plate. Speaker 600:22:44But on the flip side for long products, On the carbon side, with scrap retreating a bit here, that could be an offset. I mean, is there anything I'm missing in terms of the moving parts because of flat to up 2% pricing number seems to temper some of that enthusiasm we've seen on the flat road side. So any other color on the components of that pricing guidance would be great? Speaker 300:23:06Hey, Tim, it's Steve. I'd have to say there's not really much to report there. Our long product business has been steady, prices have been steady, demand has been strong and we've not seen a pullback in demand or pricing. Speaker 200:23:22Yes. And our mix too, Timna, can also impact that. Semiconductor, we're seeing a little weakness there right now. And Our pricing on those products is pretty high compared to a lot of the other products including like carbon flat rolled or plate. And so the product mix can make a bit of a difference as well. Speaker 600:23:46So that would be offsetting some of the sharp Increases in flat rolled second quarter over Q1 is what you're saying? Speaker 200:23:52Yes. We saw some of it in the Q1 and would expect that to continue in the Q2, yes. Speaker 600:24:00Okay. Thanks. And then for my final question, I'm going to take a stab at LIFO here. I was kind of surprised with the lack of change in the dollars 60,000,000 annual guidance, given the stronger price environment at least of late. Can you walk us through I mean, is that really Year over year lower prices, does that reflect any thoughts on inventory year over year? Speaker 600:24:22If you could just talk us through why that didn't change despite some of the more positive dynamics you've laid out and because I would have expected that could have converted to a LIFO expense? Thanks. Speaker 400:24:33Yes, sure, Timna. This is Arthur. So from our perspective, I mean, you have to look at our product mix as well. Carla just alluded to that earlier. Carbon flat rolled combined as a percentage of sales in the Q1 less than 20%. Speaker 400:24:49And you have certainly some prices on the carbon side plate and flat roll that have come up, but there's some headwinds on the non ferrous So all in all, there wasn't anything sort of story changing, so to speak, from an annual cost forecast perspective. And also when you step back and you look at a $60,000,000 LIFO, nearly $3,000,000,000 worth of inventories and The FIFO basis, it's a relatively small number. So essentially what we're saying is kind of relatively flat Pricing, right, for the year, at least for cost on hand from the beginning of the year to the end of the year. Speaker 600:25:36Okay. That's helpful. Appreciate it. Thank you. Operator00:25:52Our first our next question comes from Phil Gibbs, KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:25:59Hey, it's Phil. Thanks so much. Good morning. Good morning, Phil. Can you guys hear me okay? Speaker 400:26:07Yes. Yes. Speaker 700:26:08All right, perfect. Seems pretty strong comments on aerospace in the release. Maybe give us some color in terms of what you all are thinking for the balance of the year because the rebound in Q1 sounded very strong. Speaker 200:26:28Yes. Hi, Phil. So we've been seeing continued improvement in our Aerospace business Throughout 2022 and then coming into the Q1 of this year, Commercial aerospace build rates have been improving and so we've benefited from that. That's probably commercial is probably about half of our aerospace exposure and then space, private jet, defense have continued at strong levels. So overall, we've been really pleased with what we've seen and our customers continue to be busy and we expect that to continue throughout the year. Speaker 700:27:15And then I may have missed it because I did miss a portion of the script, but your CapEx expectations for the year on a cash basis, I think Q1 you did a little over $100,000,000 but what's the expectation for the full year there? Speaker 200:27:31Yes. Hey, Phil. So we do still have some catch up from our spend over the last year or 2 because of Extended lead times, a lot of the equipment manufacturers and just constructing new buildings and things. So we estimate that we'll spend cash of about $400,000,000 to $450,000,000 in 2023. We did have $100,000,000 as you mentioned spend in the Q1. Speaker 200:28:02We are seeing some of those lead times start to come in a little bit. So we're anticipating some improvement in that area as we progress through the year. Speaker 700:28:14Thank you. And then just lastly, I know Timna asked the question on share gains. I think you did intimate that there were some of that in your Q1 in your release, maybe talk a little bit about that more And if it's something that could be meaningful to you all this year in the sense that, hey, is it a couple of 100 basis points? Is it more than that? Is it less than that? Speaker 700:28:42You might have anything that you could provide there would be helpful. Thanks a lot. Speaker 200:28:46Yes. So, we mentioned that we do have a couple of new facilities, some of our organic growth that have been ramping. And so we're seeing some higher shipments based on that activity. Our tons shipped we're higher than the MSCI industry average. So that would imply that we are taking a little share. Speaker 200:29:13We've got great people out there throughout our organization who are Hungary and they like to sell metal and we may be taking some share. We don't have a specific plan. We haven't quantified anything, but we've got the capability to ship more tons if we get reasonable profits on it. Speaker 700:29:43Thanks so much. Have a great day. Operator00:29:45Thank Speaker 400:29:48you. Operator00:29:51Next question comes from Martin Engleert, Seaport Research. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:29:58Hello. Good morning, everyone. Speaker 400:30:00Good morning. Good morning, Mark. Speaker 800:30:03I wanted to get your thoughts on you spoke about underlying demand looking into 2Q here. But looking past that, do you have any thoughts or expectations in the back half of the year? And maybe how that compares to The prior year, any color commentary maybe from some of the customer base on their expectations or their budgets? Speaker 200:30:28Yes. Hi, Martin. Our customers, I don't know if we look that far out, 40% of our orders, the customer calls today we ship tomorrow the sentiment from our customers that they continue to be busy. They're not getting all is much labor that their workforces are down a bit, so they still have orders that they're working To fulfill beyond Q2, we're not sure. There are a lot of uncertainties out there. Speaker 200:31:00We do think though and we mentioned in our comments, you've got the combination of reshoring of some manufacturing business. You've got the infrastructure bill, which it sounds like a lot of the mills are starting to see some activity from that. We typically trail the mills a bit. So we think that's a positive indicator for us along with activity on the Inflation Reduction Act And the CHIPS Act, we're expanding some of our capacity to be able to meet that demand. As we just commented, aerospace has been strong. Speaker 200:31:39Our tool processing for the automotive business has been strong. So no quantified outlook for the second half, but we feel good about 2023. Speaker 800:31:54Okay. And I guess kind of along the same lines and you did touch on this where there is maybe some pull forward As buyers stepped off the sidelines in 1Q here, but any other color on how buying among the customer base when you think across different metals products is today versus how it transpired in And are there any differences or divergent trends when you think about that activity, carbon versus other metals? Speaker 200:32:32Yes. So Martin, there was the pricing dynamic for Carbon flat rolled during Q1 with the price increases. There were quite a few increases. They're pretty significant. As mentioned there have been some plate increases. Speaker 200:32:48So we think some customers may have bought ahead a bit. So we commented on that as a factor in Q1. But it seems like prices are Stabilizing a bit now and we expect kind of normal buying patterns in the second quarter. Speaker 800:33:11Any indication that this would pivot from a Restock to a destock across the supply chain or rather, I guess, what you're saying in my read On what you're explaining is not necessarily that it's more so, yes, there was some pre buying and maybe some restocking, but now it just kind of stabilized. Is that right? Speaker 200:33:37Yes. Martin, we don't really talk we don't run our business to restock or destock. We run our business to focus on our customers' needs and as I mentioned a few minutes ago, a lot of our business is next day type delivery. And our inventories are in very good shape. And we think throughout the industry inventories are in pretty good shape. Speaker 200:34:03So we don't anticipate any big changes in buying patterns as we move into the next quarter for us or for our customers or competitors. Speaker 800:34:17Thanks. If I could, one more. Any additional color on the Semiconductor weakness mix shift there. Speaker 200:34:26Yes. I think we're seeing a bit. Shipments are still at strong levels. We're still higher than year ago levels. The industry had been at record levels and there's been a little bit of a pullback. Speaker 200:34:40We think there was maybe a little bit of a glut. Some customers maybe Had more inventory than they needed for the slowdown that has been seen and that's really for us related to selling metal into the equipment manufacturers, feeding into the semiconductor industry from a semiconductor kind of infrastructure so to speak, which is the other part of our semiconductor business with all the spending that's It's been announced in the U. S. We see that business continuing to be steady to stronger. So we think it's just a temporary situation long term both from the expansion of the chip making capabilities in the U. Speaker 200:35:30S. And just the demand for chips we think is going to be very strong on a long term basis. Speaker 800:35:40Okay. I appreciate all the detail. Congratulations on results. Speaker 200:35:44Thanks, Martin. Thank you. Operator00:35:50Since there are no further questions, I would like to turn the floor back over to Carla Lewis for closing comments. Speaker 200:35:59Thank you, and thanks again to all of you for your time and attention today. Before we close out the call, I'd like to remind everyone that we'll be in Boston in late May attending the KeyBanc Industrials and Basic Materials conference and in Chicago in mid June presenting at the Wells Fargo Industrials Conference. We hope to see many of you there. And thank you again to our team at Reliance for your continued strong performance so far in 2023 and thank you to all of you for your continued support of and commitment to Reliance. Thank you. Operator00:36:37This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. 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There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00And welcome to the Reliance Steel and Aluminum Company First Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Kim Orlano with Idol Investor Relations. Operator00:00:32Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:35Thank you, operator. Good morning, and thanks to all of you for joining our conference call to discuss Reliance's 1st quarter 2023 Financial Results. I am joined by Carla Lewis, President and Chief Executive Officer Steve Cook, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer and Arthur Agyemian, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. A recording of this call will be posted on the Investors section of our website at investor.rsac.com. The press release and the information on this call may contain certain forward looking statements, which are based on a number of assumptions that are subject to change and involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties or other factors, including the impacts of inflation, geopolitics and the COVID-nineteen pandemic and related economic conditions on our future operations, which may not be under the company's control and may cause actual results, performance or achievement of the company to be materially different from the results, performance or other expectations implied by these forward looking statements. Speaker 100:01:43These factors include, but are not limited to, those factors disclosed in the company's annual report on Form 10 ks for the year ended December 31, 2022, under the caption Risk Factors, disclosure in our press release this morning and other documents Reliance files or furnishes with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The press release and the information on this call speak only as of today's date, and the company disclaims any duty to update the information provided therein and herein. I will now turn the call over to Carla Lewis, President and CEO of Reliance. Speaker 200:02:22Good morning, everyone, and thank you all for joining us today to discuss our Q1 2023 financial results. I'll begin with an overview of our performance and capital allocation strategy. Steve will then speak to our operating results and demand trends by end market, and Arthur will conclude with a review of our financial results and outlook for the Q2 of 2023. Beginning with our Q1 performance, we started the year off strong as our highly diversified business model continued to yield favorable results in an uncertain business environment. Our first quarter net sales of $3,970,000,000 increased approximately 10% from the Q4 of 2022. Speaker 200:03:10Our sales benefited from solid demand in the vast majority of our end markets with our tons sold up 17.7% from the Q4 of 2022, which were partially offset by a lower average selling price. This was the highest sequential increase from the Q4 we've seen in our tons sold in the last decade. Our strong volumes, which benefited from our investments in organic growth, a robust gross profit margin of 30.9% and disciplined expense control helped drive pretax income of $508,500,000 and diluted earnings per share of $6.43 well ahead of our expectations. Our strong profitability, along with effective working capital management, enabled us to generate significant 1st quarter operating cash flow of 384 dollars 600,000 Turning to capital allocation. Our consistent cash generation continues to fuel our strategy of investing in growth activities and returning capital to our stockholders. Speaker 200:04:26Our capital expenditure budget for the full year 2023 remains a record $500,000,000 with spend of $102,900,000 in the 1st quarter and an expected total cash outlay of approximately $400,000,000 to $450,000,000 this year. We expect approximately 2 thirds of this budget will be invested in growth projects, up from roughly 50% historically as we continue to invest in various facility upgrades, efficiencies and expansion into new markets. Our investments include new cutting edge equipment to expand our value added processing capabilities to further bolster our market position and margin profile as well as investments to provide safer working environments for our employees. While we did not complete any acquisitions during the Q1, the pipeline remains healthy. We continue to evaluate a wide variety of prospective opportunities and remain well positioned to pursue those that meet our disciplined criteria for high quality growth. Speaker 200:05:37Concurrent with our growth initiatives, we returned $100,900,000 to our stockholders in the Q1 we are committed to a combination of dividends and share repurchases. Since 2018, we have allocated over $2,000,000,000 of capital towards organic growth and acquisitions and nearly $2,800,000,000 towards stockholder returns in the form of dividends and share repurchases. In summary, we are very pleased with our Q1 performance, both operationally and financially. We continue to execute our strategy in a dynamic environment with metal pricing volatility, ongoing inflationary headwinds, recessionary concerns, supply chain disruptions and labor shortages. Nevertheless, our managers in the field continue to do an excellent job upholding our superior levels of service and providing increasing levels of value to our we maintain our belief that Reliance remains very well positioned to capitalize on opportunities resulting from the Infrastructure Bill, the CHIPS Act and the Inflation Reduction Act in an environment with relatively higher metal pricing versus historical levels. Speaker 200:06:57Thank you to our extraordinary team at Reliance for your commitments to working safely and successfully executing our model. Thank you all for your time today. I'll now turn the call over to Steve, we will review our Q1 operating results and demand trends. Speaker 300:07:16Thanks, Carla, and good morning, everyone. I'd also like to express my gratitude to our dedicated team at Reliance for their outstanding operational execution and ongoing commitment to safety. I'll now turn to our Q1 demand and pricing trends. Our tons sold increased 17.7% compared to the Q4 of 2022, surpassing our expectations of up 11% to 13% and vastly exceeding the typical seasonal recovery. Compared to the prior year period, our tons sold were up 7.2%, higher than the service center industry increase of 5.5% as reported by the MSCI, the performance was supported by organic growth activities we've invested in over the course of the past several years, along with our end market and product diversification, broad value added processing capabilities and ability to service quick turnaround orders, continued strength in the non residential construction, general manufacturing and aerospace end markets further contributed to our strong shipment levels in the quarter. Speaker 300:08:19Additionally, rising metal cost trends incentivized many customers to reenter the market ahead of further price increases, which led to strengthened demand for our carbon steel flat rolled products. Shipments for the other carbon steel products we sell also increased both sequentially and year over year. Our 1st quarter average selling price per ton sold of $2,623 declined 6.3% compared to the Q4 of 2022 exceeding our expected decrease of 3% to 5%, largely due to shifts in product mix. Relative to the Q4, the increase in carbon steel product shipments, which have a lower average selling price in stainless steel aluminum products contributed to a shift in our product mix resulting in a lower realized sales price per ton sold. While our overall quarterly average selling price per ton sold decreased, pricing for most products we sell stabilized during the Q1. Speaker 300:09:17It's also important to note that announced carbon steel flat rolled price increases were only partially realized during the Q1 with more to come in the Q2. Arthur will cover our Q2 2023 outlook in more detail. On a non GAAP FIFO basis, which is how we monitor our day to day operating performance, our gross profit margin increased by 190 basis points to 30.5 percent compared to the prior quarter due to better alignment of inventory costs on hand with replacement costs. I'll now turn to a high level overview of the trends we saw within our key end markets. Notably, shipments improved both year over year and quarter over we are in nearly every end market with continued strength in non res construction, general manufacturing, auto through our tolling operations, Aerospace and Energy. Speaker 300:10:05While sales to the semiconductor industry declined sequentially, they remained at an elevated levels compared to the Q1 of 2022. Our long term outlook for this market remains positive and we will continue to make investments to increase Reliance's capacity in semiconductor space to support the significant expansion of semiconductor fabrication underway in the United States. Separately, we will also continue to make investments in our we expect to execute on the infrastructure and clean energy to support anticipated higher activity in these areas. Please refer to our earnings release for additional commentary on our end markets. Overall, we remain confident underlying demand will remain healthy across the majority of the end markets we serve in the Q2 of 2023. Speaker 300:10:50I'll now turn the call over to Arthur to review our financial results and outlook. Speaker 400:10:55Thanks, Steve. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. As Carla highlighted, ongoing strong demand contributed to non GAAP earnings per share of $6.37 well ahead of our guidance of $5.40 to $5.60 per share. The stronger than anticipated 17.7 sequential increase in our tons sold also exceeded our guidance and accounted for the majority of the earnings per share outperformance. While our overall quarterly average selling price per ton declined from the previous quarter due to the entry point into Q1 being lower than the prior quarter average and a shift in our product mix, our selling prices remained relatively stable throughout the Q1. Speaker 400:11:46In an environment of relatively flat pricing for the vast majority of the products we sell, we improved our transactional or FIFO gross profit margins that's without the impact of LIFO adjustments from the Q4 of 2022 as our inventory turn rate accelerated and costs on hand continue to better align with lower replacement costs. Additionally, we realized a significant amount of operating leverage on the incremental tons we shipped. These factors collectively contributed to the better than expected results for the Q1. We recorded LIFO income of $15,000,000 in the Q1 of 2023 compared to $99,100,000 of LIFO income in the Q4 of 2022 and LIFO expense of $37,500,000 in the Q1 of 2022. Our current estimate of $60,000,000 of LIFO income for fiscal 2023 remains unchanged from our previous outlook. Speaker 400:12:53As a result, we currently expect to record $15,000,000 of LIFO income in the Q2 of 2023. Consistent with historical practice, we will update our expectations quarterly to account for actual inventory costs and metal pricing trends. As of March 31, 2023, the LIFO reserve on our balance sheet was about 7 dollars 29,000,000 which will generate LIFO income and benefit future period operating results to mitigate the impact of potential declines in metal prices. Moving on to expenses. Our first quarter non GAAP SG and A expenses increased $43,200,000 or 7% compared to the Q4 of 2022, due primarily to higher incentive compensation associated with higher profitability, as well as higher variable warehousing and delivery expenses associated with higher tons shipped. Speaker 400:13:59On a year over year basis, non GAAP SG and A expenses increased $43,300,000 or 7.1 percent, primarily due to incremental variable costs associated with higher tons shipped and inflationary wage adjustments, which were partially offset by lower incentive based compensation resulting from lower FIFO profitability. Earnings to cash flow. Despite about $100,000,000 of working capital investments in the Q1, we generated cash flow from operations of $384,600,000 supported by our strong earnings. Our inventory turn rate based on tons improved in the Q1 of 2023 to 4.9x or 2.4 months on hand, up from 4.4x or 2.7 months on hand for all of 2022 and exceeding our company wide turn goal of 4.7x. Our day sales outstanding was approximately 40 days, in line Oresta historical range of 39 to 43 days. Speaker 400:15:14Our operating cash flow funded $102,900,000 of record quarterly capital expenditures and the return of 100 dollars 900,000 to our stockholders in the form of $62,000,000 of cash dividends and $38,900,000 of share repurchases. As of March 31, 2023, approximately $641,800,000 remained available on our one $1,000,000,000 share repurchase authorization. I'll now turn to our 2nd quarter outlook. While we expect underlying demand will remain healthy in the Q2 of 2023, we expect our tons sold will be flat to down 2% in the Q2 of 2023 compared to the Q1 of 2023 due to one less shipping day in the Q2 of 'twenty three and the absence of the demand pull forward experienced in the Q1 of 2023. We anticipate overall pricing to remain fairly stable with slight upside from recently announced carbon steel price increases. Speaker 400:16:29Accordingly, we estimate our average selling price per ton sold in the Q2 of 2023, we'll be flat to up 2% compared to the Q1 of 2023. Based on these expectations, we anticipate non GAAP earnings per diluted share in the range of 6.40 to $6.60 for the Q2 of 2023. In closing, we're very pleased with our solid start to the year with strong shipment levels, earnings and cash flow despite continued macroeconomic uncertainty. This concludes our prepared remarks. Thank you for your attention. Speaker 400:17:12And at this time, we'd like to open the call up to questions. Operator? Operator00:17:35Question from the queue. One moment please while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from Emily Chang with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:17:56Good morning, Carla, Arthur and Steve. Thanks I wanted to ask around the shipment levels in 1Q and then the outlook for 2Q. So I know you mentioned that there was Some demand pull forward in the Q1. Perhaps could you give us a sense as to if there wasn't this pull forward, what shipments have been? And then as you look into the Q2, if there's no demand pull forward there, are you getting a sense that there's a sign there's any indications of perhaps demand being pushed out given the macro uncertainty. Speaker 200:18:29Hi, Emily. Thanks for joining the call today. So on the demand side, we were very pleasantly surprised a bit with the strength of the demand pull forward and Sorry, of our shipments during the Q1, it was higher than our typical seasonality bounce back. Part of that, we mentioned that related to some of our organic growth activities. So we had a couple of our newer plants that are on campus with some of our good mill partners and with their ramp ups, we also benefited from more shipments out of those locations that contributed. Speaker 200:19:16But even without that and the pull forward, we had guided to a slightly stronger than normal seasonal bounce back Really because our customers continue to be busy. They're still struggling to find the labor they need, which extends some of the strength in their businesses for continued shipments, so we're pleased with what we see. Q2 guidance really we've got one less shipping day. So that's the majority of the guide. We're typically our Q1 and Q2 are generally pretty flat, historically. Speaker 200:19:56And we had good strong shipments in Q1 and we're looking for something similar to that in Q2 minus The one day and the little bit of demand pull forward we had with the dynamics on the Carbon steel flat rolled pricing in the quarter. Speaker 500:20:16Great. That's very clear. Question just around the end markets then. Has there been anything that has been impacted by some of the credit tightening that we've seen? And have there been any signs of project delays or cancellations? Speaker 500:20:32It's been good to see some inflow from the infrastructure side, but curious if there's anything that you're seeing a little weakness there? Speaker 200:20:41Yes. So we certainly understand that people I have concerns and there's speculation that we're seeing that. We haven't seen it yet. We're not saying that we might not See some of it later in the year, but going into Q2, our customers have strong backlogs and projects Operator00:21:15Next question comes from Timna Tanners with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:21:22Yes. Hey, good morning, guys. Speaker 400:21:24Hey, Timna. Good morning. Speaker 600:21:25I wanted to ask to follow-up on Emily's question. We've heard From some of the smaller service centers that they're struggling with higher interest rates. So, could you be perhaps gaining share if some of your competitors are having a harder time accessing capital and because it doesn't sound like that's an issue for you. So just wondering about that competitive dynamic. Speaker 200:21:46Yes. Hey, Timna. So we are not aware of that. We have heard some comments by people that some of the service centers may be struggling. For us, that is where it is typically favorable for us and where our customers still seem healthy as well. Speaker 200:22:09But if they're trying to manage their credit limits more tightly. That's usually favorable for us because of our smaller we're able to Smaller order sizes on a frequent basis. So it does create a favorable environment for us and we do pick up some market Sure sometimes in those types of environments. Speaker 600:22:35Okay. That's helpful. Alongside your mix, you mentioned the Higher sheet prices. There's also been some big plate increases. I know you're decent in plate. Speaker 600:22:44But on the flip side for long products, On the carbon side, with scrap retreating a bit here, that could be an offset. I mean, is there anything I'm missing in terms of the moving parts because of flat to up 2% pricing number seems to temper some of that enthusiasm we've seen on the flat road side. So any other color on the components of that pricing guidance would be great? Speaker 300:23:06Hey, Tim, it's Steve. I'd have to say there's not really much to report there. Our long product business has been steady, prices have been steady, demand has been strong and we've not seen a pullback in demand or pricing. Speaker 200:23:22Yes. And our mix too, Timna, can also impact that. Semiconductor, we're seeing a little weakness there right now. And Our pricing on those products is pretty high compared to a lot of the other products including like carbon flat rolled or plate. And so the product mix can make a bit of a difference as well. Speaker 600:23:46So that would be offsetting some of the sharp Increases in flat rolled second quarter over Q1 is what you're saying? Speaker 200:23:52Yes. We saw some of it in the Q1 and would expect that to continue in the Q2, yes. Speaker 600:24:00Okay. Thanks. And then for my final question, I'm going to take a stab at LIFO here. I was kind of surprised with the lack of change in the dollars 60,000,000 annual guidance, given the stronger price environment at least of late. Can you walk us through I mean, is that really Year over year lower prices, does that reflect any thoughts on inventory year over year? Speaker 600:24:22If you could just talk us through why that didn't change despite some of the more positive dynamics you've laid out and because I would have expected that could have converted to a LIFO expense? Thanks. Speaker 400:24:33Yes, sure, Timna. This is Arthur. So from our perspective, I mean, you have to look at our product mix as well. Carla just alluded to that earlier. Carbon flat rolled combined as a percentage of sales in the Q1 less than 20%. Speaker 400:24:49And you have certainly some prices on the carbon side plate and flat roll that have come up, but there's some headwinds on the non ferrous So all in all, there wasn't anything sort of story changing, so to speak, from an annual cost forecast perspective. And also when you step back and you look at a $60,000,000 LIFO, nearly $3,000,000,000 worth of inventories and The FIFO basis, it's a relatively small number. So essentially what we're saying is kind of relatively flat Pricing, right, for the year, at least for cost on hand from the beginning of the year to the end of the year. Speaker 600:25:36Okay. That's helpful. Appreciate it. Thank you. Operator00:25:52Our first our next question comes from Phil Gibbs, KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:25:59Hey, it's Phil. Thanks so much. Good morning. Good morning, Phil. Can you guys hear me okay? Speaker 400:26:07Yes. Yes. Speaker 700:26:08All right, perfect. Seems pretty strong comments on aerospace in the release. Maybe give us some color in terms of what you all are thinking for the balance of the year because the rebound in Q1 sounded very strong. Speaker 200:26:28Yes. Hi, Phil. So we've been seeing continued improvement in our Aerospace business Throughout 2022 and then coming into the Q1 of this year, Commercial aerospace build rates have been improving and so we've benefited from that. That's probably commercial is probably about half of our aerospace exposure and then space, private jet, defense have continued at strong levels. So overall, we've been really pleased with what we've seen and our customers continue to be busy and we expect that to continue throughout the year. Speaker 700:27:15And then I may have missed it because I did miss a portion of the script, but your CapEx expectations for the year on a cash basis, I think Q1 you did a little over $100,000,000 but what's the expectation for the full year there? Speaker 200:27:31Yes. Hey, Phil. So we do still have some catch up from our spend over the last year or 2 because of Extended lead times, a lot of the equipment manufacturers and just constructing new buildings and things. So we estimate that we'll spend cash of about $400,000,000 to $450,000,000 in 2023. We did have $100,000,000 as you mentioned spend in the Q1. Speaker 200:28:02We are seeing some of those lead times start to come in a little bit. So we're anticipating some improvement in that area as we progress through the year. Speaker 700:28:14Thank you. And then just lastly, I know Timna asked the question on share gains. I think you did intimate that there were some of that in your Q1 in your release, maybe talk a little bit about that more And if it's something that could be meaningful to you all this year in the sense that, hey, is it a couple of 100 basis points? Is it more than that? Is it less than that? Speaker 700:28:42You might have anything that you could provide there would be helpful. Thanks a lot. Speaker 200:28:46Yes. So, we mentioned that we do have a couple of new facilities, some of our organic growth that have been ramping. And so we're seeing some higher shipments based on that activity. Our tons shipped we're higher than the MSCI industry average. So that would imply that we are taking a little share. Speaker 200:29:13We've got great people out there throughout our organization who are Hungary and they like to sell metal and we may be taking some share. We don't have a specific plan. We haven't quantified anything, but we've got the capability to ship more tons if we get reasonable profits on it. Speaker 700:29:43Thanks so much. Have a great day. Operator00:29:45Thank Speaker 400:29:48you. Operator00:29:51Next question comes from Martin Engleert, Seaport Research. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:29:58Hello. Good morning, everyone. Speaker 400:30:00Good morning. Good morning, Mark. Speaker 800:30:03I wanted to get your thoughts on you spoke about underlying demand looking into 2Q here. But looking past that, do you have any thoughts or expectations in the back half of the year? And maybe how that compares to The prior year, any color commentary maybe from some of the customer base on their expectations or their budgets? Speaker 200:30:28Yes. Hi, Martin. Our customers, I don't know if we look that far out, 40% of our orders, the customer calls today we ship tomorrow the sentiment from our customers that they continue to be busy. They're not getting all is much labor that their workforces are down a bit, so they still have orders that they're working To fulfill beyond Q2, we're not sure. There are a lot of uncertainties out there. Speaker 200:31:00We do think though and we mentioned in our comments, you've got the combination of reshoring of some manufacturing business. You've got the infrastructure bill, which it sounds like a lot of the mills are starting to see some activity from that. We typically trail the mills a bit. So we think that's a positive indicator for us along with activity on the Inflation Reduction Act And the CHIPS Act, we're expanding some of our capacity to be able to meet that demand. As we just commented, aerospace has been strong. Speaker 200:31:39Our tool processing for the automotive business has been strong. So no quantified outlook for the second half, but we feel good about 2023. Speaker 800:31:54Okay. And I guess kind of along the same lines and you did touch on this where there is maybe some pull forward As buyers stepped off the sidelines in 1Q here, but any other color on how buying among the customer base when you think across different metals products is today versus how it transpired in And are there any differences or divergent trends when you think about that activity, carbon versus other metals? Speaker 200:32:32Yes. So Martin, there was the pricing dynamic for Carbon flat rolled during Q1 with the price increases. There were quite a few increases. They're pretty significant. As mentioned there have been some plate increases. Speaker 200:32:48So we think some customers may have bought ahead a bit. So we commented on that as a factor in Q1. But it seems like prices are Stabilizing a bit now and we expect kind of normal buying patterns in the second quarter. Speaker 800:33:11Any indication that this would pivot from a Restock to a destock across the supply chain or rather, I guess, what you're saying in my read On what you're explaining is not necessarily that it's more so, yes, there was some pre buying and maybe some restocking, but now it just kind of stabilized. Is that right? Speaker 200:33:37Yes. Martin, we don't really talk we don't run our business to restock or destock. We run our business to focus on our customers' needs and as I mentioned a few minutes ago, a lot of our business is next day type delivery. And our inventories are in very good shape. And we think throughout the industry inventories are in pretty good shape. Speaker 200:34:03So we don't anticipate any big changes in buying patterns as we move into the next quarter for us or for our customers or competitors. Speaker 800:34:17Thanks. If I could, one more. Any additional color on the Semiconductor weakness mix shift there. Speaker 200:34:26Yes. I think we're seeing a bit. Shipments are still at strong levels. We're still higher than year ago levels. The industry had been at record levels and there's been a little bit of a pullback. Speaker 200:34:40We think there was maybe a little bit of a glut. Some customers maybe Had more inventory than they needed for the slowdown that has been seen and that's really for us related to selling metal into the equipment manufacturers, feeding into the semiconductor industry from a semiconductor kind of infrastructure so to speak, which is the other part of our semiconductor business with all the spending that's It's been announced in the U. S. We see that business continuing to be steady to stronger. So we think it's just a temporary situation long term both from the expansion of the chip making capabilities in the U. Speaker 200:35:30S. And just the demand for chips we think is going to be very strong on a long term basis. Speaker 800:35:40Okay. I appreciate all the detail. Congratulations on results. Speaker 200:35:44Thanks, Martin. Thank you. Operator00:35:50Since there are no further questions, I would like to turn the floor back over to Carla Lewis for closing comments. Speaker 200:35:59Thank you, and thanks again to all of you for your time and attention today. Before we close out the call, I'd like to remind everyone that we'll be in Boston in late May attending the KeyBanc Industrials and Basic Materials conference and in Chicago in mid June presenting at the Wells Fargo Industrials Conference. We hope to see many of you there. And thank you again to our team at Reliance for your continued strong performance so far in 2023 and thank you to all of you for your continued support of and commitment to Reliance. Thank you. Operator00:36:37This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation and have aRead morePowered by