Helen of Troy Q1 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

There are 9 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good day, and welcome to FEMSA's First Quarter 2023 Results Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded. I would now like to hand the call over to Juan Fonseca, Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 1

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to FEMSA's Q1 2023 results conference call. Today, we're joined by Paco Camacho, our Chief Corporate Officer As always, we also have Jorge Collazo on the line, who leads Coke FEM's Investor Relations team. Today, the plan is to have Paco share some higher level strategic considerations, followed by an overview of performance trends during the quarter And then Eugenio will provide comments on the quarter's results. After the remarks, I will address some changes we have introduced to our disclosure that we hope you will find helpful With some closing remarks by Paco and then we will open the call to Q and A. Paco, please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Juan, and good morning to everyone on the line. Before we get into the quarter, let me update you on Arfemsa, our commitment to achieve a focused platform built on retail, Coca Cola FEMSA and our digital ecosystem and the progress we have made in the couple of months since we last spoke. As you know, we already reduced our investment in Heineken Group from approximately 14% to 8%. Assuming our related exchangeable bonds are converted in full, following these transactions, We carried out a tender offer for some of our outstanding bonds, significantly reducing our financial debt I'm bringing us slightly below our leverage target of 2x net debt to EBITDA ex COF. That now stands at 1.8 times.

Speaker 1

Beyond these successful developments, we are progressing on the various tracks That will ultimately take us to the target structure in a value conscious fashion. We'll keep you updated as we move along. As you remember, a big part of FEMSA Forward is about driving growth in our core verticals. And there was a lot of that in our Q1 results. Indeed, 2023 is off to a good start and we are excited about our momentum.

Speaker 1

This marks the 8th consecutive quarter that our Proximity division has achieved double digit top line growth And the 5th in a row for Coca Cola FEMSA. While inflation was a factor, we are still proud of the way our teams What this also means is that OXXO and Coca Cola FEMSA achieved double digit growth this quarter On top of double digit growth period of last year, double clicking on the Ultra results, it is particularly encouraging to see that same store sales Grew by more than 18%, accelerating sequentially in both ticket and traffic. This is in contrast to softening retail trends in Mexico. To put this in perspective, we went back And look at 20 years of top line sales data for OXXO. And this Q3's growth rate Are the highest for that period.

Speaker 1

Continuing with the positive news, we also had a good start To the year regarding new store growth, not only in Mexico, but across markets. With a stellar performance in Brazil, Our Health division continues the stable trend we saw at the end of last year, where the difficult comparison base in Chile along with currency headwinds in the rest of our markets. However, we managed to deliver record margins for the Q1 At the gross and EBITDA level, for its part, our fuel business continues to see positive consumer dynamics And solid growth throughout its income statement. Regarding digital, The number of active users for SPIN more than tripled year over year to reach 4,200,000, Well, I think our premium loyalty program more than doubled to reach EUR 12,700,000. 20% of OXXO's sales are now associated with the program.

Speaker 1

On the B2B front, We closed acquisition of NetPay earlier this month. So we continue to move steadily forward with Just as importantly, we continue to work on the seamless integration of the 3 verticals into our physical networks. Moreover, we're tuning the use cases, value propositions, unit economics and monetization strategy for each of these products In fact, just last week, we launched the national transition of FOXO Premier into our coalition loyalty program The first partnership to be operational is with OXO Gas and it's off to a great start. The coalition platform represents an encouraging step towards the consolidation of our digital ecosystem, And we will keep you posted on new partnerships and developments. In terms of financial implications, It is still a bit early to incorporate a full P and L for the digital business into our disclosure.

Speaker 1

But during the quarter, We deployed close to MXN 900,000,000 in growing this business, and we are expecting quarterly figures in that range for the next several quarters. Finally, let me talk a little bit about our logistics and distribution. As we have discussed before, The rapid growth of Enbrel Solutions over this material increase is relevant as part of the FEMSA asset base, Requiring in turn increased visibility in our disclosure. Therefore, we are now reporting Embo Solutions on a stand alone basis And we are no longer bracing out the results of Latin America logistics operations from our consolidated results. As you know, we are Before I turn it over to Eugenio, I want to talk a little bit about our ongoing efforts To refresh and resize our Board of Directors, in our recent Annual General Meeting, Our shareholders approved the nomination of 15 board members, a further reduction of 2 members from last year And 6 fewer than in 2018.

Speaker 1

Beyond resizing, 2 of our directors are new to our Board And they bring significant experience and expertise in retail and digital. Governance is a key area of focus for FEMSA, Finally, I want to thank and recognize our team's unit For performing at such a high level during the Q1. As we said during our recent conversation around FEMSA forward, The outlook of our company has never been as compelling and promising as it is today. And our Q1 performance is a solid first step along that path. And with that, let me turn it over to Regenio.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Paco and everyone on the line. Beginning with TEMSA's consolidated quarterly numbers, total revenues during the Q1 increased 22%, While income from operations increased 5.5% compared to the Q1 of 2022. On an organic basis, total revenues increased 12.4% And income from operations increased 3.3%. Net consolidated income was COP 50,329,000, Driven by a $40,600,000 gain in the accounting remeasurement from historical cost of fair value of FEMSA's investment in Heineken As well as the partial divestiture of this investment as part of the FEMSA Forward strategy announced in February. This net of the COP 7.6 MXN 1,000,000 tax payments linked to this transaction.

Speaker 1

Both gains are now presented as discontinued operations in our income statement. In addition, net consolidated income also reflects an MXN 8,500,000,000 non cash financial product That most really reflects the repurchase of $1,700,000,000 of FEMSA's outstanding debt at favorable price levels, also in connection with FEMSA Forward. Moving on to discuss our operations, beginning with Proximity Americas. We added 157 new units during the Q1 To reach 11 50 stores for the last 12 months, this includes 120 stores from our Okay Market acquisition in Chile That we began consolidating during the Q2 of last year. These numbers include OXXO Mexico, but also our OXXO lifetime operations Comprised of Colombia, Chile and Peru that are gradually increasing their contribution to the growth of approximately Americas.

Speaker 1

OXXO same store sales were up 18.3% for the Q1, which as Paco mentioned, is the highest rate of growth we have ever seen in the last 20 years. This was driven by an increase of 11.9% in average customer ticket and a very strong 5.7% growth in traffic. This underscores the solid progress OXXO's categories throughout the quarter, but especially by the strong showing of the gathering location. Gross margin was 40.3%, continuing a recent trend where our fast growing loyalty program and the lower contribution from our financial service Was more than offset by healthy commercial income dynamics. We remain comfortable that demand elasticity driven by our loyalty program It's more than offsetting the gross margin contraction.

Speaker 1

Income from operations increased 19.7%, While operating margin decreased 20 basis points compared to the same period of 2022 to reach 7.3%, an increase in performance based compensation schemes for in store personnel and by an increase in labor expenses, saving from labor reforms in Mexico. At Proximity Europe, Revenues came in slightly above MXN 10,000,000,000 reflecting a recovery in traffic and ticket driven by improved customer mobility. Gross margin was 46.3 percent and operating margin was 1.4%, reflecting an increase in expenses driven by recent acquisitions and inflation. Moving on to FEMSA's Health operations. During the Q1, we our drugstore count by 80 net additions to reach a total of 4,186 cross our territories at the end of March And 4 53 total net new stores for the last 12 months.

Speaker 1

Revenues decreased slightly, while same store sales decreased an average of 5.5%. However, as was the case last quarter, it is important to note that on a currency neutral basis, revenues grew 14% And same store sales increased 5.8 percent driven by good performance at most of our operations, partially offset by a demanding comparison base in our operations In Chile and Mexico, gross margin increased 160 basis points in the quarter, mostly reflecting positive margin dynamics across our operations, Especially in Mexico, operating margin decreased 30 basis points representing an increase in labor expenses in most of our markets. At OXO VAS, revenues maintained a recent upward trend and increased 20.6% And same station sales grew 17.4% as vehicle mobility grew relative to the Q1 of 2022. Retail volumes were again supported by robust pickup in corporate and wholesale activity. During the quarter, gross margin was 12.4%, While operating margin was 4%, reflecting tight expense controls and improved operating leverage.

Speaker 1

Moving on, Coca Cola Pemcels delivered a strong set of results to start the year. Total volume grew 6.6% driven by growth across all of its territories. Total revenues increased 12% and operating income grew 12.9% as operating margin expanded by 10 basis points to reach 13.5%. You can listen to the replay of their conference call that's available online. Finally, at Envoy Solutions, Total revenues increased 23.7 percent relative to the Q1 of 2022, reflecting effective cross selling of the company As well as some of the acquisitions that we did last year, while operating margin contracted 140 basis points impacted by higher transportation, Labor Costs and Other Integration Operations.

Speaker 1

Now let me turn it over to Juan, We'll briefly go over some of the changes we made to the press release that we hope you will find helpful. Juan? Thank you, Eugenio. The change you will see on our press release is the net debt to EBITDA ex Coca Cola FEMSA table on Page 3, where we calculate and show the leverage ratio As we established when we discussed FEMSA forward a couple of months ago, there was some confusion in trying to replicate it. So here, we give you the numbers, And there's a table in the back on Page 16 that goes into the adjustments in more detail.

Speaker 1

Next, the Proximity Americas section is presented in 2 parts. First, we present the information for OXXO that includes Mexico as well as the 3 countries to us LatAm, which is Colombia, Chile and Peru. All the information on Page 4 refers to these operations and is presented in Mexican pesos. Then on Page 5, we show a paragraph on Bara And another on the Grupo Nord joint venture in Brazil. In time, the plan is to provide income statement tables and more information For these businesses as they continue to grow and eventually we should follow a similar path for other developing formats like Toronto, OXO Smart and our coffee drive thrus.

Speaker 1

The next important change comes on Page 9, where we are introducing a table that shows growth rates for revenues, Units and same store sales for our retail operation. We are breaking out the countries for OXXO and for Health in currency neutral terms to better reflect They're on the ground performance. We believe this table will come in very handy as these operations accelerate their pace of growth and begin to move the needle. Finally, you will see that we are now presenting Envoy solutions on its own, as Sergeny just mentioned, no longer as part of logistics and distribution. Envoy has seen the past couple of years and it merits its own disclosure for as long as we continue to consolidate its results.

Speaker 1

And those are the main changes you will find today. We will continue to listen to you in a permanent effort to improve our disclosure moving forward. And with that, let me turn it back to Paco for some closing remarks. Paco? Thank you, Juan.

Speaker 1

Just a few words about the road ahead. As we said, 2023 is off to a strong start. We are aware that the rest of the year will continue to be challenging. We will be cycling against the strong results last year, inflation will remain high and there will always be macro and regulatory uncertainties happening somewhere in our geography. In this context, we will remain laser focused on creating value by meeting customers and consumer needs and executing with excellence.

Speaker 1

We are prepared to quickly adjust to the challenging environment and deliver results. We are convinced that we have a structurally strong business platform Our reach opportunity set and most importantly, we have the best team to execute our strategy and consistently win across our markets. And with that, let us open to the line for questions. Operator, please?

Operator

Thank you. And please limit yourselves to one question in order to allow all participants the opportunity to ask a question. Thank you. And with that, our first question today comes from Ben Theurer of Barclays.

Speaker 2

Yes. Thank you very much and good morning. Congrats on the strong results. So the one question I had is, If you don't help us understand a little bit better some of the growth dynamics you're seeing in the Health division. And thank you by the way for the table on Page 9.

Speaker 2

But looking into that, it seems like there was a particular softness in Mexico. And I'd like to And what's been driving that in comparison to the other markets? And how you think about just The growth potential in these different markets go forward as obviously health is one part of the core of the new FEMSA. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1

Sure. If you want, I'll start. The softness in Mexico comes from the Same store sales basis, you're referring to the negative 7.1%. That is actually very tough. That is just a very tough comp coming from the Last leg of COVID induced increase in sales at the same store level.

Speaker 1

I mean, having said that, I mean, going forward, we do expect A strong unit growth in Mexico as well as a little bit of improvement in the overall top line on a same store sales basis. More importantly, what is driving value in Mexico has been, I mean, a few 100 basis points increase in gross margin as we have been able To partner with suppliers and get increased margin on some of the products that we're offering, but the softness is more related To a very strong comparison base in Mexico. In the other markets, Chile, as you know, we do have A strong market share there and we're also coming off very strong results stemming from consumer pickup in demand given all the liquidity That was released to the consumer during the COVID era in Chile. So on Chile, we're also working off a strong comparison base, Not as strong as in Mexico, but we do expect there that with commercial efforts and also with the multi format strategy, Fusverde, Mike Cao and others that we will be able to offer consumers a good value proposition and continue to grow. Colombia and Ecuador, Our different countries in Colombia, a lot of the growth is driven, as you know, primarily by serving customers that are affiliated to EPC, But we are also growing in the retail channel significantly, which will also drive our growth.

Speaker 1

And again, Ecuador, Although there's still a very good value proposition, I mean, political and economic factors there have been, I think, the most important driver of top line growth there. I don't know, Paco? Yes. Just to add on the Mexico side, Ben, we need to remember that 2022 Q1, We had the Omicron variant, so there were strong sales related to that, number 1. And number 2, year to date, The Mexico share has increased slightly.

Speaker 1

So that reassures us that structurally, we have a very solid business. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Thiago Bertolucci of Goldman Sachs.

Speaker 3

Yes. Hi, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on the very solid print. I have two things here that I would like to explore. The first is related to the FEMSA forward priorities, right?

Speaker 3

I know You have to be very cautious on the forward statement and any guidance that you might provide. But from what we understand, obviously, there are 2 Priorities on the plan, one is growth and the other capital allocation, right? You mentioned in the press release and it's clear that leverage It's trending pretty well, which allows you to execute those priorities. So I'd just like to understand from a growth perspective, right, What are the kind of opportunities that you're envisioning for the short and medium term? How urgent And how large they are and how much capital these initiatives could require going forward?

Speaker 3

This is the first one. And the second one is more on the operating side, right? You posted very solid and impressive sensor sales in Mexico. And I believe this is decoupled a little bit from your peers and even from ONTAD, right? I would like to understand

Speaker 1

a little bit more from you. How do

Speaker 3

you have you seen the same store sales trend building out throughout the quarter, especially early reads From April or whenever you saw in March and how correlated you think OXXO performance could be

Speaker 1

to Antad going forward?

Speaker 3

Those are the questions. Thank you very much. And once again, congrats on the results.

Speaker 1

First, with regards to growth and where we see it coming, I mean, as we discussed last year, all of the business units On the long range plans that involve I mean, trying to double their EBIT over the next 5 years, and frankly, all of the different business units I have plans on an organic basis to achieve that. I mean, most notably OXXO through the multi format category, we believe that we could add I mean, on top of the natural growth in OXXO stores, we could add in other formats and other use cases, a significant amount Additional revenue there. In Latin America, clearly a lot of more room to grow in Brazil with all the different formats. And then again, with regards to the basic Boxster store, there are a lot of additions to the value proposition with regards to, I mean, cash management products, the integration with the digital side and more importantly, the loyalty program where we do believe that we could capture Same store sales growth at the traditional OXXO store in a very, very healthy fashion. And with regards to capital allocation, Most of these plans are actually self funded by the operations.

Speaker 1

So they would not require a significant amount of cash From femsaparent to be able to achieve their goals. In the case of the Health Division, I think the same thing, a lot of room For organic growth in Mexico, as you know, we are very strong in a couple of geographic areas, but there's still others where we believe from a footprint perspective that we could grow organically. But also in Mexico, there will be, I'm sure, at some point, inorganic opportunities that would require additional capital allocation. I don't know, Paco, if you want to talk about any of the others. No.

Speaker 1

Just basically to reinforce the point that as we enter into 2023, The results we are announcing today already reflect the fact that all the businesses are walking the path On the long range plan update, it was presented to us at FEMSA and as it is included as part of FEMSA Forward. So the results start to reflect already the plans that were deployed as part of FEMSA forward in each of the businesses. Importantly, on the organic side, The other thing to add on your question regarding relative performance vis a vis Walmart and TAB and the other sales, We did see a significant outperformance this quarter. And if you look at category by category, use case by use case, it was mostly the gathering location That is bringing us more traffic in the store. So I think what we are seeing, if you go back to when the pandemic started as to how convenience formats started to lose a little bit of share And grocery format started to gain I mean, some of that share.

Speaker 1

I think you're seeing some of that come back slowly but surely. But more importantly, we are experiencing that growth in traffic and changing consumer habits with a much more well known Basket of products that are accessible at OXXO, including liquor, financial solutions and others that are making this traffic come in And not lose the high average ticket that we grew during the pandemic. So I think the combination of a higher ticket And the recovering traffic is why you're seeing, I mean, a very strong performance on OXXO in the Q1. And I think that, that second question of yours, Thiago, is related Your first question, because as part of the OXXO's long range plans and opportunities to To continue growing organically, it's a significant sophistication further sophistication on their segmentation strategy And the ability to rapidly change the portfolio on SKU offering And everything they do around the consumer need. I mean, they started to do that in a for a long time, Then they significantly improved their abilities during COVID.

Speaker 1

And frankly speaking, they have continued to do that and it's an important part Both what they expect to do over the next several years as part of the Long Ridge plan to continue sophisticated in this ability to give consumers what they want. And that is reflected there. The results reflect that and that's why we are confident that moving forward we'll continue to see that. Yes. I'd just like to add, hi, Thiago, this is Juan, I think building on what Eugenio said, more on your Antad related question.

Speaker 1

I mean, during COVID, obviously, The market developed a couple of concerns regard OXXO, and I'm oversimplifying here, but People were worried about the relevance of the storm and would it still continue to play very important roles in people's lives And obviously, the slowdown in openings, which was a consequence of COVID and us being able To see what was happening with some marginal stores also concerned the market because we as you remember, we closed a chunk of stores and we slowed down significantly and We made it harder for us to approve new locations. I think what we're seeing this quarter and it really builds on the last three quarters of last year Is that the answer to both of those concerns is, we're fine. OXXO people are As we turn to their normal behavior patterns and habits and there's County fairs and people are going to concerts and people are out and about. You see a very healthy Performance at the stores, as Paco was saying, the stores have transformed their value proposition accordingly. But the other point is we are opening, I mean, we're not yet Back to 1,000 stores per year, but we're moving in that direction in addition to everything that's happening outside of Mexico.

Speaker 1

But I just wanted to put a highlight on that fact that I think this quarter again demonstrates the super high relevance and all the roles that OXXO continues to play And how this translates into very, very powerful set of numbers. And in terms of Anstad specifically, unfortunately, as you know, We are not a part of that. There are other big players in the industry that are not a part of that and so the number maybe has become a little bit less relevant. And we don't have a perfect peer, but directionally, obviously, it will give you some information and hopefully we can continue to outperform it more often than not.

Speaker 3

That's super, Juan. Thank you very much.

Operator

And our next question comes from Ricardo Alves of Morgan Stanley.

Speaker 4

Hello, everybody. Thanks for the call. My first question was partially answered already on a very, very impressive OXXO Same store sales, just wanted to expand a little. The average ticket seems to have been the main source of acceleration, Sequentially speaking, the 12% increase. So can you expand just a little bit on that, on these We appreciate the fact that the unit revenue has been improving since the start of the pandemic.

Speaker 4

We've discussed this in many instances. But On the margin to the Q1, we saw a big jump in average ticket. So just wanted if there's any category that you care to highlight. I That average ticket is something that surprises quite positively. And maybe just more important, how did you see April?

Speaker 4

I mean the issue of the Holy Week, so just wanted some additional color looking forward would be helpful on the OXXO same store sales. That's my first question, Kind of a follow-up. The second question on the FEMSA forward, Just a little bit more of an update as well. And I think first of all, appreciate we applauding the disclosure in the release, so really appreciate that. It's really helpful.

Speaker 4

Qualitatively speaking, can you comment a little bit more around Envoy negotiations Interest from third parties, perhaps structures that you guys are envisioning, any updates on Envoy that would be helpful. And we've been getting a lot of questions on Heineken as well. We appreciate the lockup period is coming due. So just wanted to hear your Latest thoughts on that, if the commitment is still there, just an update on those two fronts, Envoy and Heineken. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Vastar with the second, and you may go back to your phone. Sure. Just on FEMSA forward, we continue to, I mean, work on all fronts. And as you mentioned, Heineken Envoy and a couple of the other good progress, the market has been conducive in all of these for us to continue on our path going forward. And again, we will update you when we can.

Speaker 1

But at this point, we feel comfortable that we are on track, if not ahead of track to meet the original expectations outlined in the FEMSA forward announcement in February. And as for the just to provide a little bit more color to your question on OXXO, I guess that the first thing that I will say, Ricardo, is that The ticket increase is something that we have seen consistently over the last quarter. So I mean, this is not something that happens suddenly. This is This has to do with the way, as I said before, also is tackling the opportunities Out there in terms of what consumers need, what consumers want, how they need to adjust the portfolio. So it is true that following the pandemic, there are some Changes in consumer habits, some of them started to buy different things in different places.

Speaker 1

And I think that also has been quick to adapt the categories that have, I mean, just being the main categories in the stores such as snacking, such as beverages, But same thing, they have been changing and they are buying more multipacks, etcetera. So that's there. The beverage part, there is also beer. I mean beer has been performing quite strongly as We have finished the mixedeo and now we have also the Grupo Modelo brand in most of our stores. So that is also affecting the ticket size.

Speaker 1

And then last but not least, I would say that the team has also done a very good job Adapting the offering for the pantry in the households. So that offering has improved its importance in the store and all those adjustments are what maintain the ticket going up. As I said, I think that what is important to keep in mind, this is not a standalone 1 quarter effect. It's something that has been continued Throughout the pandemic and now it's kept that way and hopefully we will continue to see that performance in the quarters to come. Yes.

Speaker 1

Now let me just add a little bit to what Paco just said, just to focus on beer. And the reason for that is, August, The 4 year process of incorporating the ABI portfolio into the stores, that was a big deal. And unfortunately, it was kind of overshadowed by COVID, right? I mean, we started literally a few months before COVID arrived. And so I don't think we fully saw the impact.

Speaker 1

I don't think we have seen the impact yet, but certainly you begin to See behaviors in the beer category that are very, very encouraging as you now have both brewers Basically, duking it out in what is their most important battleground, I think OXXO, as you know, for a long, long time, we have been the most important channel for our brands, for Heineken. I think we're on our way to becoming a very important channel for the ABI brands as well. And so obviously, in terms of the Number of cases that you sell, implications that this might have at the commercial income level. I mean, it's just Beginning to look like I always hoped it would look once we had both portfolios from the store. So Just to kind of highlight that beer is the most important category for OXXO continues to be probably always will be.

Speaker 1

The other I wanted to put a little bit of a dampener out there in the sense that I don't think what we saw in the Q1 is Necessarily the new normal, right? I mean, don't expect to see 18% same store sales throughout the rest of the year. I think There is no calendar change. I mean, Holy Week happened in April in both years 2023 2022, so there's no Kind of distortion there, but as healthy as things look, again, don't put 18% in your model because I don't think we're going to get there, But it's still looking like a very, very strong year.

Speaker 4

Very helpful. Thanks everybody.

Speaker 5

Thanks,

Operator

Our next question comes from Bob Ford of Bank of America.

Speaker 6

Thank you. Good morning, Juan, Paco, Eugenio and thanks for taking my question. We've back out a MXN 1,100,000,000 loss The other division and I was wondering if the level of investment in digital initiatives, whether there were any non recurring expenses associated with the strategic review book there And what your expectations are for the segment going forward? Thank you.

Speaker 1

Yes. On the digital division, as you know, it's in the others category, and we are roughly running a loss during the quarter of about 900,000,000 Part of that, if you just look at the overall ecosystem, is compensated by revenues that are being generated at the Proximity Division related to the use of spins That are obviously reflected. So on a consolidated basis, it's less than $900,000,000 Having said that, it continues to be a relevant amount. A lot of that is Development of the product, I mean staffing up in terms of people, outside consultants and whatnot, we're not capitalizing, I mean, a lot, any relevant amount of that. So we continue to invest, number 1, in obviously getting the user base to level That we need to, but more importantly, making sure that the use cases, the functionality and the eventual monetization strategy for these customers, Be it through the financial side or the loyalty side are attainable.

Speaker 1

For this year, I would expect cash burns at or above those levels. And hopefully, as revenues come up in the Proximity division and other divisions via the loyalty program, That cash burn over the course of the next 18 to 24 months will start to turn. But at this point, we are committed to, I mean, basically, putting out a product out there that consumers will enjoy interacting with and that will generate what we believe is long term value From our for the overall ecosystem.

Speaker 6

And Eugenio, how should we be thinking about the functionality roadmap?

Speaker 1

The functionality roadmap. Right now, as you know, the spin product is migrating to base from I mean, the 3 products Basically of digital, which is B side, the B2C side and then the loyalty program, they are slowly migrating to this new platform called SpinPremia SPIN Plus. SPIN Plus, sorry. And the idea is to have a single lab that will be able to manage, I mean, all of the different accounts there. So from a functionality perspective, 1st and foremost, it's just Consolidating all of the product offerings into a single app and then slowly but surely adding on what we believe are going to be, I mean, very useful use.

Speaker 1

Right now, we have Obviously, bill payments, money transfers, peer to peer, etcetera, etcetera, but more importantly, we will at some point begin to offer Remittances from the U. S. Start to offer some kind of credit products with a very heavy weighting on credit And then eventually through the loyalty program being able to offer, I mean, our CTG customers With the digital advertising space, promotions, etcetera, and grow from there on the consumer side. And then on the business Now with the NetBe acquisition, the idea is to be able to kind of close the The vice grip on the overall consumer experience by affiliating mom and pops, by affiliating Other customers that Coke is serving and putting them into the digital ecosystem by offering them the same product so that they can start to charge For the multi category and omni channel offering to the mom and pop and have them earn loyalty points as they Run their own business as well and make that part of the overall value proposition. And again, try to establish this closed loop system where hopefully Consumers who have the spin product will be using spin not only at OXXO to earn and redeem points, but also at any changaro Or any other, I mean, restaurant or other places in Mexico.

Speaker 1

So that is the eventual dream to close the B2B and the B2C side. And I guess just to add just a couple of things. As the team walks towards that path of all these value added services, their focus right now is to make sure that They increased the number of active users monthly, so it is crucial that consumers that users come back and continue to use the app. And second, to improve the NPS and on both sides, we have good news. I mean, the multi active users continue to grow and the NPS continues to improve.

Speaker 1

So that's the path today.

Speaker 6

Very interesting. Thank you both.

Speaker 5

Thanks, Matt.

Operator

Our next question comes from Louis Willard of GBM.

Speaker 5

Hi, everyone. Good morning and thanks for taking my question. I wanted to talk about a bit of the dynamics in Financial Services And the payment being at OXXO, can you help me understand, you're seeing traffic up Year over year significantly, Alok. So, but you mentioned you're pressuring the financial services contributing less to the top line and I would assume you best profit. So to understand a bit more on the dynamics on this front, what's the

Speaker 1

Sure, Luis. With regards to Financial Services, remember, they're made up of obviously people paying, but the biggest part of it comes from the correspondents or Correspondent banks doing transactions to the OXXO network. And over time, as you know, we've added Different banks in Mexico, but then also some banks have dropped. So the volatility, if you want, in the traffic related to financial services Has more to do with banks that are either coming on or offline any given quarter. And then certain banks, just because of their own value proposition, are sometimes Limiting the number of transactions that customers can do at OXXO in any given month.

Speaker 1

So it has a lot more to do with that. I would say We had slow traffic during the middle and latter half of twenty twenty two. That traffic is coming back, But again, coming off from a low base in the Q1 of 2023. And the other thing to note just from a peso perspective is that the commissions That we are charging have remained pretty much flat in peso terms. So when you see these numbers that are reported in real terms, We've lost some real, call it, real peso revenue growth in those categories Related to pricing more than traffic and volume, but that's kind of the nature of the beast.

Speaker 1

Having said that, I think the word in terms of The financial institutions that are participating with us more and more, we are seeing some of them that have left come back at a more aggressive pace And the number of transactions that have been limited to some in the past have been opening up. So I think in the Q1, we're starting to see The tip of the iceberg in terms of that traffic coming back.

Speaker 5

Right. So and if I may, a follow-up. Does this, let's say, lower peso company you're receiving Has to do with the fact that probably transactions, especially on the money transfers and deposits are being done through spin.

Speaker 1

Not really. I think Tash, Correct. I mean, we are seeing, I mean, growth in people transactions via spin. Having said that, I mean, The pricing strategy of Spain and the pricing strategy of the financial institutions, I mean, are in lockstep and have been Relatively constant, if you want to call it throughout this period, have to do more with our financial partners deciding To reopen their interactions with OXXO in a more aggressive fashion.

Speaker 5

Right. Super clear. Thank you. Thank you, Luis.

Operator

Our next question comes from Alan Alanis of Santander. Pander, please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Appreciate it. Hi, Paco, hi, Eugenio, Juan. Congratulations on the results and thanks for taking my question. My question has to do with cash back to the shareholders. What needs to happen in order for you to either Activate a significant share buyback program or an extraordinary dividend in the context that if I get the numbers correctly, You paid $650,000,000 of ordinary dividends.

Speaker 7

You have $4,000,000,000 of gross cash, almost $4,000,000,000 of gross cash. You could pay another similar amount of $650,000,000 and you would still be under 2x net debt to EBITDA. So what's the thinking process regarding cash back to shareholders in terms of catalyst, in terms on timing going forward, please? Thank you so much.

Speaker 1

Sure, Alan. I appreciate the question. And clearly, that's top of mind for us right now. No question about it. Having said that, I think the priority right now is To get the structure and the portfolio structure in place, so we're more focused right now on executing those transactions, See where we end up in terms of leverage.

Speaker 1

I mean, we're already there. We're already at 1.8, and these transactions are not going to do anything but improve that ratio. But we first want to have, I think, a little bit more clarity. And then, I mean, we will be considering any and all options to maximize value for shareholders, I mean, including I mean, modifying the current dividend policy, considering extraordinary dividends, doing share repurchases, I mean, in comparing and contrasting that with any inorganic inactivity to the extent that we believe we can create equal or more value to the shareholders than any of the other options. But I think the focus, at least for the next quarter or 2, it's going to be just on getting The FEMSA forward transactions with greater visibility, so that we can make that decision of capital allocation with a lot more certainty.

Speaker 1

And as we said, this is a process, I mean, implementing the FEMSA forward is a process that will take several months. It's not something that will happen overnight.

Operator

And our next question comes from Rodrigo Alcantara of UBS.

Speaker 1

Hi, thanks for taking my questions. Barco, a great Good morning. On logistics here, you have had that format for a couple of years, and this is the first time that Let me disclose it or mention it very clearly in your press release. 3rd, if you use very Promising format, very good unit economics. So just curious if should we expect You guys are accelerating store openings here at Para, perhaps exploring new You are just in 5, 6 days in this Bara.

Speaker 1

And if inorganic growth to Accelerate, but would be an option for you guys. That would be my question. And also On the Stellium store openings, any updates regarding Ballora? Do you have opportunity any plan regarding organic expansion there, Yes. Let me start providing some color on your first on both questions.

Speaker 1

On the Bara side, indeed, I mean, that's part of the As we go through the conversation, Rodrigo, that part of the long range plan strategy for OXXO is a multi format. Bara being one of the different formats that we plan to accelerate moving forward. The bar is performing really well. The value proposition has been sharpened over the last few years, And we are confident that, that format will continue to grow and we have, I would call it, a strong Ambition in terms of openings for 2023. Whether or not there will be leases there, well, It's not something that at this stage the team is focused on.

Speaker 1

It's more on the organic growth opportunity for specifically for Bara. Regarding Ballora, yes, your point is absolutely right. Our priority from an organic standpoint It's Germany. We as we have stated, I mean, when we look at Ballora and the number of stores we have in Switzerland, It's 8,000,000 people. We have probably 1200 stores.

Speaker 1

When we look at Germany, we have 80,000,000 people and we have the same number of stores. So the opportunity for organic growth in Germany is strong And our priority at this stage for organic growth is precisely that country and we see the possibilities in 2023 and forward. Yes. In the Q1, you did see 7 net new store openings for Valora, which is on the low side given where we expect To go going forward, I mean, having said that, as you know, we're still, I mean, digesting the acquisition, integrating it into our systems, getting everything aligned, And we are juggling a very complicated inflation environment, especially in Germany. So once we get that under control and integrated, you

Operator

Our next question comes from Sergio Matsumoto of Citi.

Speaker 8

Yes. Good morning, Paco and Eugenie and Juan. Thanks for taking my question. I want to go back to your comment about habits have changed and just ask the question in a different Angle, in the past before the pandemic, there was this value proposition from OXXO where there will be services being rendered at the stores or the convenience of going there would drive traffic into the stores and Some of that would result in cross selling within the store where they pick up something else to buy. And I'm wondering under the new For strategy of FEMSA forward, if the spin and the premia is now fully offsetting that About your proposition or has it taken over?

Speaker 8

And if not, when do you expect that to take over?

Speaker 1

Yes. Thank you for the question. And Well, look, on the one hand, we believe that OXXO continues to have a very strong value proposition on the physical side of the store. I mean, the difference in consumer habits that we saw from before the pandemic to the pandemic, I mean, just let's talk about one to illustrate the point, which is that less We'll go to the office because more people do virtual work. I mean, that is there.

Speaker 1

It's undeniable that, that is there. That is affecting everything that consumers do. But related to OXXO, there are few changes that has Taken or done into the value proposition of the store. First, we are more careful to see where we open the stores. I mean that's something that you have seen and we have been more strict in our store opening and as Juan has said several times, The new stores performed better today than before simply because we are being more strict in terms of where we open the stores.

Speaker 1

2nd, Look, just to illustrate one point. In the past, consumers, as you said, will stop before going to the office, will buy something to drink and then go to the office. Right now, as they probably stay at home for a couple of days during the week, they maybe We stop less time, less frequently in the store, but they probably buy more. So now the store is selling for multipack So these type of changes and fine tuning are allowing us to maintain a very relevant value proposition for consumers in the physical store. Now having said that, It's been an premium, and I think that Eugenio made reference to that.

Speaker 1

The way consumers are using those products is allowing us to increase the traffic in the store. Why? Because consumers will in an electronic manner receive an offer, receive a coupon and be invited to go to the store And then add an additional purchase on top of whatever they are going there to buy. So actually, we see that it's not going to be a switch In detriment of the physical store, but actually the way we are seeing it is that this is a physical Way of consumers shopping, in which they will, on one hand, have the digital platform and the physical store. And frankly, there will be a lot of synergies on that and that's why that's what we're seeing already, in fact, the increase in traffic because of the

Operator

Our next question comes from Carlos Laboy of HSBC. Yes. Good morning, everyone. I know you've spoken about this before, but if you could give us some updated thinking on it, it would be helpful. Do you feel that you need to make Aquasit to build out your C store footprint In the U.

Operator

S, and if you were to do it organically, what's the biggest challenge to that?

Speaker 1

Sure. I'll take it out. I mean, the strict this oh, do you have a second question, Carlos?

Operator

No, that's

Speaker 1

it. Okay. I mean, the quick answer to that is no. We don't we need an acquisition. Having said that, I mean, just given the skill set required and the tightness that the convenience formats have in the U.

Speaker 1

S. Visavisagas, I mean, having some presence with knowledgeable operators and people who know the space, people who know how to trade oil and gas I think it will be helpful. Having said that, the short answer is we do not need it. We do believe that we could deploy the value proposition We have also in some of the markets where I mean, co nationals will be familiar with the concept, familiar with The value prop and be able to start with that on an organic and slow basis. Having said that, mean, there is a lot of activity going on in that space.

Speaker 1

There was one major transaction that was announced last week. We continue to look at Different alternatives, but I think the bottom line is that whether it be organic or inorganic, we will always be looking To be, I mean, wary of capital allocation and making sure that we are allocating the capital in a way that maximizes Absolute not relative returns visavis the other alternatives that we have, including share buybacks and dividends. So Bottom line, we will be looking at both, but one does not I mean, we do not need to do an acquisition to grow in the U. S. Is the bottom line.

Operator

The next question comes from George Is Cuervo of BTG?

Speaker 5

Good morning, Paco and Juanita. Thank you for taking my question. Good afternoon, with Emerald Solutions. Would it be fair to assume that the margin pressure in organic additions will have lower margin

Speaker 7

Jorge, could you just repeat that?

Speaker 1

You asked about margin pressures that were?

Speaker 5

Yes. Mike, this is Pierre Campos, Salesforce. I was wondering if you could comment on This has to do with inorganic additions or margin or this is related to other organic drivers?

Speaker 1

Combination for that? Yes, it's a little bit of a combination of both. 1st and foremost, the Q1 is usually in the specialized distribution space, because one in terms of sales volume. So the SG and A expense that we Putting starting in the second half of last year and into the first quarter, in terms of bringing in very solid integration teams that have been working Putting in all of these 30 acquisitions in the same ERP system, a bunch of the pricing initiatives above bunch of the logistics initiatives that we're putting on, I mean, a bunch of that SG and A came in and during the quarter, which is usually the lowest in sales, that's where you see the margin contraction. Having said that, on the gross margin side, I think it continues to be, I mean, on track with what we were expecting.

Speaker 1

There are some pressures on the foodservice category, but they're more than offset by the strong performance of the Janssen category. And to your point, I mean, some of the especially the acquisitions that happened During the second half of twenty twenty two, those are still going through, I mean, the synergy process and making sure that we integrate The back office, etcetera, and has still not borne the fruit that we expect them to on a run rate basis. So yes, it was an awkward quarter

Operator

And that is all the time we have for questions today and thus concludes FEMSA's Q1 2023 results conference call. We thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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