Boyd Group Services Q1 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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May 10, 2023

There are 8 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Boyd Group Services Incorporated First Quarter 2023 Results Conference Call. Listeners are reminded that certain matters discussed in today's conference call or answers that may be given to questions asked could constitute forward looking statements

Speaker 1

that are subject to risks

Operator

and uncertainties related to Boyd's future financial or business performance. Actual results could differ materially from those anticipated in these forward looking statements. The risk factors that may affect results are detailed in Boyd's annual information form and other periodic filings and registration statements and you can access these documents at SEDAR's database filed at sedar.com. I'd like to remind everyone this conference call is being recorded today, Wednesday, May 10, 2023. I would now like to introduce Mr.

Operator

Tim O'Day, President and Chief Executive Officer of Boyd Group Services Incorporated. Please go ahead, Mr. O'Day.

Speaker 2

Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for today's call. On the call with me today is Jeff Murray, our Vice President of Finance and Interim Chief Financial Officer. We released our 2023 Q1 results before markets open today. You can access our news release as well as our complete financial statements and management discussion and analysis on our website at boydgroups.com.

Speaker 2

Our news release, financial statements and MD and A have also been filed on SEDAR this morning. On today's call, we will discuss the financial results for 3 month period ended March 31, 2023, and provide a general business update. We will then open the call for questions. During the Q1 of 2023, we delivered record sales and adjusted EBITDA, although adjusted EBITDA margins remained below pre pandemic levels. Demand continues to be strong with results once again constrained by the tight labor market and accompanying wage pressure.

Speaker 2

Supply chain disruption continues to normalize. However, sustained levels of high demand continue to result in elevated levels of working process While the ability to service demand continues to be constrained by market conditions, new technician training and other initiatives are providing some improved capacity. However, the path to servicing the level of demand requires continuing increases in technician compensation to attract more labor into the industry and company, and this will require continued price increases from our customers. As we address this issue, we will be able to reduce cycle times and increase customer satisfaction levels. During the Q1, we recorded record sales of 714,900,000 adjusted EBITDA of $84,700,000 and net earnings of 20,800,000 Sales were $715,900,000 a 28.4% increase when compared to the same period of 2022.

Speaker 2

This reflects a $23,700,000 contribution from 52 new locations. Our same store sales, excluding foreign exchange, increased by 25.2% in the 1st quarter, recognizing the same number of selling and production days in the U. S. And Canada when compared to the same period of 2022. Same store sales benefited from high levels of demand for services as well as some increase in production capacity related to technician hiring, growth in the technician development program, as well as productivity improvement, although ongoing staffing constraints continued to impact sales and service levels that could be achieved.

Speaker 2

Sales also increased based on higher repair costs due to increasing vehicle complexity, higher part content and cost, increased scanning and calibration services, as well as general market inflation. Gross margin was 45.7% in the Q1 of 2023 compared to 44.1% achieved in the same period of 2022. Gross margin benefited from improvements in part margins and parts are once again being sourced from primary suppliers and the mix of alternative parts continues to move toward historical levels. Increased scanning and calibration services also positively impacted gross margin. Labor margins have improved to continue to be negatively impacted by the tight labor market, which has resulted in continued wage pressure and to both retain and recruit staff.

Speaker 2

Operating expenses for the Q1 of 2023 were 242,400,000 were 33.9 percent of sales compared to $191,600,000 or 34.4 percent of sales in the same period of 2022. Operating expenses as a percentage of sales was positively impacted by improved sales levels, which provided improved leveraging of certain operating costs, partially offset by wage and other inflationary increases, as well as increased support costs related to recruitment and training, including the costs associated with the technician development program. Adjusted EBITDA or EBITDA adjusted for fair value adjustments to financial instruments and costs related to acquisitions and transactions was $84,700,000 an increase of 57.5% over the same period in 2022. The increase was primarily the result of improved sales levels and gross margin percentage, which also improved leveraging of certain operating costs. Net earnings for the Q1 of 2023 was $20,800,000 compared to $1,600,000 in the same period of 2022.

Speaker 2

Excluding fair value adjustments and the acquisition and transaction costs, Adjusted net earnings for the Q1 of 2023 was $21,200,000 or $0.99 per share compared to 2,100,000 was $0.10 per share in the same period of the prior year. Adjusted net earnings for the period was positively impacted by increased sales and improvements in gross margin percentage as well as improved leverage of operating expenses.

Speaker 3

At the end of

Speaker 2

the period, we had total debt, net of cash of $2,008,800,000 compared to $963,000,000 at December 31, 2022. Debt, net of cash, increased when compared to prior periods, primarily as a result of increased lease liabilities resulting from location growth as well as lease renewal activity. During the Q1 of 2023, the company was able to reduce the level of long term debt held under the revolving credit facility by approximately $8,200,000 During 2023, the company plans to make cash capital expenditures, excluding those related to the acquisition and development of new locations, within the range of 1.6% and 1.8% of sales. In addition to these capital expenditures, the Company plans to invest in network technology upgrades to further strengthen our technology and security infrastructure and to prepare for advanced technology needs in the future. The investment expected in 2023 is in the range of $5,000,000 to $8,000,000 with similar investments expected in 2024 and 2025.

Speaker 2

This investment is expected to begin in the second half of twenty twenty three. Looking ahead, we remain focused on the key challenges of building capacity through increased staffing and negotiating sufficient price increases to recover loss margin from continuing wage pressure. We continue to experience high volumes of work and elevated levels of work in process. We continue to benefit from increased scanning and calibration revenue. Thus

Speaker 3

far in

Speaker 2

the second quarter, our sales run rate is modestly above that experienced in the Q1 of 2023, and same store sales results have been slightly lower than the growth experienced recently. The balance of 2023 beginning in May June has higher comparative periods for which same store sales will be measured against. We remain committed to addressing the labor market challenges so that we can service additional demand. Price increases for labor continue to work their way through the system, market by market and client by client. Modest improvements in labor margins have been experienced.

Speaker 2

However, pricing increases have not been sufficient to attract requisite talent into the industry and to offset the wage increases experienced to date. As communicated previously, performance credit based programs may cause margin to vary on a quarter by quarter basis. Our intake location strategy is intended to drive same store sales growth at times when capacity is not constrained. In late 2022 and in early 2023, we decided to close many intake locations based on the reality of our current capacity constraints. On the other hand, we're pleased to have opened or acquired 30 collision repair locations thus far in 2023 and the pipeline to add new locations and to expand into new markets is robust.

Speaker 2

Operationally, will focus on optimizing performance of new locations as well as scanning and calibration services and consistent execution of the Lal operating way. Given the high level of location growth in 2021, the strong same store sales growth during 2022, and the combination of same store sales growth and location growth thus far in 2023, we remain confident the Company is on track to achieve its long term growth goals, including doubling the size of the business on a constant currency basis from 2021 for 2025 against 2019 sales. With that, I would now like to open the call to questions. Operator?

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll now conduct the question and answer session. One moment for your first question. Okay. And your first question comes from Michael Doumet from Scotiabank.

Operator

Michael, please go ahead. Good morning, Michael.

Speaker 1

Hey, good morning, Tim. Hey, Jeff as well. Nice quarter. Maybe to just start on The Q2 sales same store sales commentary, it seems like you're suggesting that April same store sales are trending at kind of plus or minus 25%, but It's slow May, June given the tougher comps last year. Just in order to get

Speaker 2

a better sense of that, any way

Speaker 1

you can comment on and how much May June sales increased last year versus April. Yes, just anything that can help us there.

Speaker 2

Yes. I think what we were trying to provide some color around, Michael, was that same store sales growth It was pretty strong in April. We know we're up against tougher comps, and we try to provide Some information that the sales run rate that we're seeing right now is modestly above what we saw during the Q1. So, I would look at our run rate during the Q1 and probably build off of that. Sean, I guess Just to add

Speaker 1

as well, in terms of comparison to thus far in the quarter compared to the comparative period, We have seen it's been lower than what we've experienced in the last couple of quarters, not just the most recent quarter. So We factor that in as well. Helpful, Jeff. Thank you. And then I guess turning to the market discussion, I've had this conversation several times with many investors.

Speaker 1

As we think about the return to normalized margin and what that means for dollar margin versus percentage margin. And if I look at Q1 EBITDA on a per shot basis, your Q1 EBITDA was higher versus 2019 levels, again on a per shot basis. But you're still 200 basis points below. So how do you think about dollar margin versus percentage margin? And where is your confidence in terms of recovering the percentage margin longer term?

Speaker 2

Yes. Well, we haven't really We haven't expressed a specific goal on the EBITDA margin we're targeting long term, We're still negatively impacted on our labor margins because of the wage price and the wage inflation that we've experienced. And I think we've been pretty clear that that has not yet been offset. I'm pleased with the progress we've made on our EBITDA margin with increased throughput. We did see increased throughput in the most recent quarter coming from multiple Components, we saw an increase in the contribution from our technician development program, increased productivity from our experienced technicians and some increased staffing relative to prior quarters.

Speaker 2

So I think we've made good progress on building up our revenue. And we've got plenty of demand. So part of the long term solution is continuing to build our capacity to process the demand to offset the increased costs we've experienced over the past couple of years.

Speaker 1

Got it. And then maybe just in terms of longer term margin expectations. Was that closer or was that in reference to the labor margin is what you guys were looking to read through?

Speaker 2

We certainly expect to and need to recruit more labor margin. We do have some other tailwinds, Michael, that we've talked about. I mean, I think the increase in repair complexity, which Comes along with increased management calibration services. It is a long term opportunity and tailwind for us that has the opportunity to enhance margin, both gross margin and EBITDA margin because it's New revenue that 3 or 4 years ago the industry fairly had. So we've got Multiple ways to continue to drive EBITDA margin in addition to just improving throughput.

Speaker 2

And improving throughput offsetting our operating kind of our fixed operating costs, is really a key focus. Got it. Those are my questions. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Michael.

Operator

Your next question comes from Steve Hansen from Raymond James. Steve, please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Yes. Good morning, guys. Thanks for

Speaker 4

the time. Tim, I'll follow-up on the last question in rate, derivative calibration and scanning opportunity ended. Can you maybe just give us a bit of a road map for the rollout of that opportunity within your network? I think you described in the past, it's still relatively early, but how quickly can you expect to roll out these services? And how does that approach,

Speaker 2

Yes. I think we are Early on in rolling out calibration services across our network. Having said that, we're performing calibrations. There's just a higher percentage of that work being done by 3rd parties that are not our employees or not part of the Boyd companies. So I think the opportunity is the market will continue to grow from scanning and calibration.

Speaker 2

The size of the market, which will add to the size of And we will look to grow our capacity in our calibration company to service that business both for Boyd and for other companies. So I think it's a good long term tailwind That we're in the early stages of.

Speaker 4

Okay. Very helpful. And just to clarify from just a regional standpoint, is this something that you roll out in the U. S. First and I suppose in the Midwest, but you're a small group and then in Canada over time or how does that play more regional?

Speaker 2

Not necessarily. I don't think we're not dependent on just growing from the base that we have. We believe we can So open and add that service in markets that we operate in today and service more than work ourselves.

Speaker 4

Okay, very helpful. And then just one follow-up, if I may, is on the M and A front. You did more active, which is positive. You could just see How do you feel about the pipeline? I know it's been described as robust, but maybe just some additional color to give us a sense for your expected cadence or maybe this year or just how appealing that market is right now from a customer point?

Speaker 4

Thanks.

Speaker 2

We're As you can see from our Q1 results and even Q4, we're pretty focused on single shop growth. I feel really good about what we accomplished in the Q1. Our team is doing a really good job of identifying and executing on opportunities. And we've got plenty more in the pipeline that we expect to continue to execute on. So these are primarily single shop acquisitions for greenfield and brownfield developments that have good high returns on capital.

Speaker 2

It's not necessarily Year 1 return on capital. As we've talked about before, we expect our single shop acquisitions Generally, we have a return on capital post synergized, including post close investment in year 2 of 25%. And our greenfield and brownfields, we generally have higher expectations than that. So there's plenty of opportunity out there. And I think our team is Doing a really nice job of executing on that.

Operator

Your next question comes from Gary Ho from Desjardins Capital. Gary, please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Thanks. Good morning. Just to pass on that last question on M and A. You hear the PE guys are suffering from higher financing and refi costs. If you have some insight for maybe larger MSOs if they appear available in the market?

Speaker 2

Yes, I think we've always concluded. We're interested in any growth that enhances shareholder value. I think What we have to be cautious of is making acquisitions that aren't accretive or take on more risk And make sense for the nature of the acquisition, but we'd be very interested in transformative opportunities if they make sense from a shareholder value standpoint.

Speaker 5

And anything in the pipeline, anything in the market that you can comment on or is it still fairly tight on that one?

Speaker 2

Well, I wouldn't comment on it either way. So there's certainly likely opportunities in the market, nothing that we would comment on. Okay. And our focus is pretty keenly on the highly accretive single shop growth, And we're confident in our ability to achieve our 2025 revenue goals, even with that strategy alone.

Speaker 5

That makes sense. And then my next question just gives you a few comments. Jerry suggests some relief on the gross margin side, But labor continues to be challenging. So, Mickey, 2 part question. Asset margin, have you seen kind of wage pressure starting to hit?

Speaker 5

And then second, You mentioned same store sales growth is up against tougher year over year comps. As the top line growth slows, Are you able to still manage the labor front to show margin improvement? Just wondering if there's a lag between those 2 that Maybe you could hurt margins for the second half of the year.

Speaker 2

Look, the labor margin, we have made a little bit of progress on labor margins, Not as much as I would like. And I do think that the wage pressure has Diminished somewhat, but it's still there. I mean, when you have an industry that relies on highly skilled labor and there's a shortage in that pool and there's lots of revenue available. People are going to fight for that labor as much as they can. And we continue to invest in our technician development program We've seen great results with that.

Speaker 2

Last year, we beefed up our focus on recruitment. We've had success with that. And I think as supply chain has normalized a bit and we get back to really focusing on the WAHA operating way, we have been able to drive productivity improvements from our existing workforce. And that combination is really what's driving our same store sales growth. And we're going to continue to focus on those things.

Speaker 2

So I think the in the absence of meaningful short term labor margin improvement, which we're very focused on, We think revenue throughput opportunities are still available to us.

Speaker 1

Maybe I'll just add to the strong comps Part of the question, even though we will be facing some strong comps, the throughput is still and the demand for services is still Sufficiently high that it wouldn't be a negative to our overall sales levels. We still expect sales levels to continue to increase. It's just that due to the higher comps, if you look at it on a same store basis, it won't be at the same rate that they've been at the same store historically.

Operator

Your next question comes from Bret Jordan from Jefferies. Bret, please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Hi, good morning guys. On the scan and calibration business, could you maybe give us some more color on The margin profile there and as you're doing more 3rd party for other collision facilities, what kind of margin you're looking at? And And is there a CapEx cycle here? Obviously, if you're doing 3rd party, maybe there's a van fleet or more hardware required, could

Speaker 4

you just maybe talk about what that looks like?

Speaker 2

Yes. We haven't disclosed a lot of detail on that, Brett, but it is a There is a fair amount of calibration within our company today that's being done as a sublet service. And to the extent that we can internalize that, we should be able to Shift that revenue from sublet margins, which are the least attractive in our industry to labor margins. So, that's obviously very favorable to us. There is a capital investment required.

Speaker 2

Much of the calibration work today is done via mobile, although We are equipping stores with where we have space for putting in and with targeting systems and mobile technicians can travel to our stores and we'll move work around on a hub and spoke basis to provide some of that work. I think the we're going

Speaker 3

to continue to see a

Speaker 2

growth in revenue around standard calibration, and we're going to internalize more of it. And I'd say those are positive tailwinds for us, probably for several quarters to come. Okay.

Speaker 6

Great. And then I guess on market growth, your comp of 25% plus, could you maybe give us some color how you think that Compared to what happened in the overall collision market, obviously, supply chain has improved a bit. But could you sort of frame that And the scope of maybe share gain?

Speaker 2

It's tough for me to give you any good numbers on that. CCC publishes some data. That's claims data versus repair data typically. We believe we picked up Because we've increased our capacity and we've certainly added units. The average cost of repair has been going up, But our same store sales gains are well above the level of inflation.

Speaker 2

So our throughput is up, which would indicate a short gain.

Speaker 6

Okay. A quarter of magnitude or just off?

Speaker 2

I don't have a number that I'd be comfortable giving you, We're moving in the right direction on it and building our capacity, our labor capacity is really the key thing. It's going to be higher. And I think we've been pretty clear in our MD and A that Our sales revenue is still constrained by a lack of labor capacity that we are working to address.

Speaker 6

Great. Thank you. Thanks, Brett.

Operator

Your next question comes from Jonathan Landers from Laurentian Bank Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

So the gross margin Results for the quarter was very strong and that you continue to highlight the opportunity for Labor margins to be stronger and you continue to negotiate rate improvements as far as your standing and calibration program. As you continue to Roll out this plan and calibration business and negotiate higher rate increases, would you be willing to hazard a guess as to how much higher gross margins could be and historical levels?

Speaker 2

We won't provide projections on that, Jonathan. Some of the improvement that we've seen recently, some of that is in the parts area and we've been commented Supply chain is normalizing and that's done 2 things on the parts side. It's allowed us to use more higher margin alternative parts, Especially aftermarket parts because of improved availability. And LKQ has been pretty clear on their fill rates have gone Way up and we're seeing the

Speaker 5

benefit of

Speaker 2

that. We also have been able to rely more on our primary suppliers as supply chain has Freed up a bit, which has recovered our part margins to more normal levels. Scanning and calibration is definitely another one of the benefits that we're seeing on the labor side Because we do have more going through that, more sales growth going through scanning and calibration, and some of it is being serviced internally. But we're not providing a projection of where gross margins will end up.

Speaker 1

That's fine. Thanks. And just a clarification question for Jeff on the sales run rate. So the way that I like to think about this is expected to be in store sales percentages as you report. And if I multiply those through since 2019, The trend is kind of up 22% in Q1, improved from up 14% in Q4.

Speaker 1

I would think that could be continuing into Q2 and I can kind of back out what that means for the in store sales number for

Speaker 2

the quarter. Is that the right way

Speaker 1

to think about the run rate or are you talking about dollars per location or something else that's not common for you? Yes. I think you're right. You could probably look at it different ways. So, besides you asked to clarify that.

Speaker 1

The way we were thinking about it is if you looked at our Q1 sales and look at the number of production days. That really gives us an idea of perspective as to what our current business is performing at and sales perspective on a per day basis. And then if you were to use that into Q2, then that would be a reasonable way to sort of Maybe triangulate a little bit. Just and really, the complexity has come in just because of some of the variability of the strong comps and the shifting month to month. It becomes very difficult to give meaningful guidance when the range is starting to kind of be more broad.

Speaker 1

So we thought we'd give that additional Thanks. And from looking at some others in the industry in Q1, severity seems to have been strong. Can you tell from the information you have that cost inflation accelerating or is

Speaker 2

it kind of too hard to tell? I think it's I would not have thought it was accelerating, Hello, repair cost and placement has definitely been a contributor to your repair complexity, number of parts, average cost per part, The increase in the need to calibrate vehicles that are damaged has been growing. So It's not just inflation. It's really the average repair today has more labor hours on it and likely More calibration on it than an average repair did even 2 years ago.

Speaker 1

Thanks for your comments.

Speaker 4

Great.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Jonathan.

Operator

Your next question comes from Zachary Evershed from National Bank Financial. Zachary, please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Good morning, Jack.

Speaker 7

Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Of course, inventory 1 on How labor rate negotiations are going? What's the sense of urgency with your insurance partners, knowing that there was an uptick in length of rental and backlogs?

Speaker 2

Well, I think that insurance carriers generally are worried about having adequate capacity to service their policyholders. So, I think the sense of urgency for everyone in the value chain is very high. We've continued to see A good pace of increases in labor rates, even through Q1. The carriers are looking for capacity. So, I think the urgency is Similar to what it's been over the last several quarters.

Speaker 2

We're still not the industry is still not servicing automobile owners as effectively as we were prior to the pandemic. Length of rental is still very elevated, customer satisfaction scores, in part because of High repair times, long repair times and still some supply chain disruption and labor issues aren't where they should be. And we're all working hard to get back to making sure that we're taking great care of our customers.

Speaker 4

Thanks. Could you give us

Speaker 7

a comment on the legislative landscape with respect to some insurance commissioners taking a stance against big insurer premium hikes and what that might do for your labor

Speaker 2

negotiations? It's a good question. I think that Insurers need quality repair capacity and they're competing for that repair capacity. So I think that there is not necessarily a direct connection between those 2. If you look at the data, our insurance clients have by and large been very successful at seeking and receiving Weight increases.

Speaker 2

I think there are some states that there's been a fair amount of noise over like Georgia recently, which had some very large increases by carriers last year. I think there's been some recent legislation to try and control that. California has been tough. But at some point, regulators have to provide enough rate for insurance companies to make money and cars are more complex and more expensive to repair. And insurance carriers have a way of reducing their book if they can't quite get adequate rate.

Speaker 2

So I don't think there's a direct connection to that. There is over time, there's probably a direct connection. I think carriers will continue to get the rate they need to be profitable with their book of business because they can't survive long term without them.

Speaker 1

Great. Thanks.

Speaker 7

Just one last one. How quickly can you get managers come back online when your backlogs are returning to normal?

Speaker 2

We could bring them back online pretty quickly. They're not complicated to open and they weren't complicated to close. It just didn't make sense for us to chase volume that we couldn't service. The expense of doing that wasn't that significant. It just didn't make sense.

Speaker 2

We've had this model in place in Canada for years. It's been highly successful. It was actually Very successful in the U. S, if we could have serviced it. But we're confident in our ability to bring that model back when it makes sense.

Speaker 5

Thanks very much. I'll turn it over.

Speaker 2

Thanks,

Operator

Your next question comes from Sabahat Khan from RBC Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker 2

Good morning, Johnny.

Speaker 3

Good morning. I guess there's been a lot of discussion about the labor topic. Just wanted to get a little bit more color, I guess, as the macro evolves, Are you seeing any signs of maybe folks from other periphery industries, complementary industries that might be looking for jobs? Or is it too early for the labor pools to become larger or you know industries you can maybe hire from?

Speaker 2

I think it's difficult for us to really see that. We need to continue to make sure that we're competitive against alternatives that people with the skill level we're looking for Have, and I think we've made progress toward that. I don't think we're where we need to be to attract as much talent into the industry as we would like. We've had success in both recruiting experienced technicians. I can't tell you whether they've come from competitors or from other industries.

Speaker 2

And I'm really pleased with the success we've had with our technician development program. And we continue to invest pretty heavily in that. And So this year, we'll see quite a few graduates given the maturing program. We'll start to see a fair amount of graduates coming from that program.

Speaker 1

I think there's 2 stages to it as well. You need to stop the outflow. So stopping the outflow is, I think, Most important at the immediate term at some point, if the rates can go sufficiently high, we may attract, but I think the focus is to make sure it's been helpful. Yes.

Speaker 3

That makes sense. And as you just think about the technician development program, is that 400 Just based on the capacity availability of the program become bigger at the pool of labor increases?

Speaker 2

Well, we've had good luck recruiting for that program. So that's one area where I would say The availability of new entrants into the workforce via that program has not been a significant constraint. So, we could grow the program further. I think what we need to do is understand the benefits of investing in that long term versus Continuing to attract new labor into the industry, and it's probably a combination. But We're not I'm not opposed to continuing to grow that program.

Speaker 2

We just need to understand that it's the right way to invest our money.

Speaker 1

And we've ramped it up very quickly

Speaker 2

in a

Speaker 1

short period

Speaker 4

of time.

Speaker 1

And so we just need to make

Speaker 2

sure that it flushes out the way we We were 200 at the beginning of last year, and we were A little over 400 by the time we reported in November of last year. It's a very well received program by our operating teams. It's got Tremendous support both in the locations and up through the ranks of the operating team. So I'm confident that if we choose to, We have the ability to grow and just take some extra support resources, trainers, administrative team members, recruiters To build around it, it's a scalable program because it's a distributed program that's mentor based. And we've got trained messers in the system today that don't currently have On apprentice, so we can scale it up.

Speaker 2

And I

Speaker 3

guess just on that, the program, Now what is typically the demographic concerning it? Are the younger folks that are looking to enter the industry? Because obviously the average technician age was becoming a bit of an issue for the industry. But Do you have a do you prefer people under 30, for example? Or do

Speaker 2

you basically hail up if you got

Speaker 3

a certain amount of work you need left, we'll take in the program?

Speaker 2

We've really looked at the technician development program as an opportunity to not only bring in A younger workforce because we're recruiting typically taking schools or bringing people into entry level positions like porters or parts clerks And our organization, making sure that they're committed, their attendance is good, and then giving them the opportunity to go through the TDP program. And we also see good diversity across the spectrum. So we have More women, more African Americans, more Asians, more Hispanics in TDP than our company on average. So it's really a great opportunity for us to diversify our workforce and it does tend to skew much, much younger. So our typical recruitment probably be late teens to mid-20s.

Speaker 3

That's great color. And just one last quick one. Obviously, the macro is evolving and I'm assuming there's a lot of competition out there through transactions. What are some of the factors that are influencing the multiples that maybe these mom and pop shop with a single shop owners might be basing their willingness on? And also just personally, how are multiples trending broadly in the private space?

Speaker 2

Yes. On the single shops, we have not seen any real pressure Multiples and we're able to underwrite those at our targeted return of 25% return on invested capital, including Post close capital in the year 2, so with synergies.

Speaker 6

And that, we've been underwriting

Speaker 2

to that standard for a number of years. So, Really seeing no change there. There's plenty of seems to be plenty of opportunity out there. I would say over the past couple of years, We've seen greater pressure on multiples for the multi shop acquisitions, And we've responded by that to that by really stepping up our focus on Single shop acquisitions. I think what you saw in the Q1 really thus far through when we reported, we've opened quite a few shops.

Speaker 2

I think 7 were brownfield or greenfield, the balance were single shop acquisitions. So, those are Very attractive returns for us. The MSO acquisitions that we saw last year, some of those traded at multiples that couldn't make sense to us, And we would not have participated in those. And I'd reiterate that we're confident in our long term growth goals with our current approach to growth. But we're open to MSO acquisitions as long as they are accretive to us.

Speaker 2

We've seen fewer MSOs trade over the past, say, 6 or 7 months, which is probably a good sign. But I don't know that we can Say the valuations have changed as a result of that until we start to see some trading again. Thanks, Simon.

Operator

We have another question from Michael Doumet from Scotiabank. Michael, please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Hey, lots of questions. So I appreciate you taking the follow-up. A couple of modeling questions. If you can help me in kind of walk me down from EBITDA to free cash flow. And in In particular, I'm focused on the lease liabilities, the lease cash

Speaker 2

charge on

Speaker 1

the cash flow statement. It looks to be approximately up

Speaker 2

7%. So just can

Speaker 1

you comment on the average length of your lease and the incremental cost of renewals? Sure. Well, our typical approach for our leases is to be 5 year lease with extensions. And so that's what we typically try to work towards.

Speaker 5

With that factor, then basically, you can

Speaker 1

see about 20% turnover approximately every year, which is with our number of locations, there's quite a number, which can start to shift the amount of leases between the ones that we have in place. So which resulted in different interest rates and things like that flowing through that cash flow statement, those cash flow numbers. More recently, I think with the brownfield greenfields, we typically sign up for a slightly longer tenure. Initially, the initial term is usually longer than that, 10 or 15 years. And so when you've got those entering the mix and as they become a greater proportion of the mix, then that turnover element should reduce a little bit.

Speaker 1

Okay. That's really helpful. And then maybe just turning to WIP, that was down quarter on quarter, but I think still relatively high on a historical basis. So are you seeing maybe sufficient improvements in the supply chain that you think that can work down quite nicely

Speaker 2

in the next kind of quarters? Yes. We've certainly I think we both increased our production capacity And we have seen supply chain improvements that's allowed us to grow same store sales and actually reduce work in processor, but it's Relatively modest reduction, but given the same store sales growth, it's a pretty meaningful reduction. And I would hope that Supply chain will continue to improve and throughput will improve, but there is a lot of demand out there. So the width you see on our balance sheet, It really reflects cars that have either been brought into our shops or where we've invested in parts for vehicles that are coming into our shops.

Speaker 2

I think we're a little better at managing that today too than we were a year and a half ago as the disruption was occurring. But I would expect I would hope that we would continue to see supply chain improvement and improvement in throughput and whittling down that work in process In the coming quarters.

Speaker 1

And that would be positive development if that's the way it plays out.

Speaker 2

Great. Perfect.

Speaker 1

Helpful. Thank you, guys.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Nicole.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I'll turn it back to Mr. Tim O'Dea for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Well, thank you, operator, and thanks to all of you once again for joining our call today. And we look forward to reporting our second quarter results to you in August. Thanks again and have a great day.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating and ask that you please disconnect your lines.

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