NASDAQ:VCEL Vericel Q1 2023 Earnings Report $41.23 +0.41 (+1.00%) Closing price 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$41.20 -0.02 (-0.06%) As of 04:35 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Vericel EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.16Consensus EPS -$0.13Beat/MissMissed by -$0.03One Year Ago EPSN/AVericel Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$41.02 millionExpected Revenue$38.45 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$2.57 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AVericel Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2023Date5/10/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, May 10, 2023Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsVericel's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 6, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Wednesday, May 7, 2025 at 8:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Vericel Q1 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 10, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to Vericel's First Quarter 2023 Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. I would also like to remind you that this call is being recorded for replay. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Eric Byrnes, Vericel's Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations. Speaker 100:00:24Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to Vericel's Q1 23 conference call to discuss our financial results and business highlights. Before we begin, let me remind you on today's call, We will be making forward looking statements covered under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements may involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results In addition, all forward looking statements represent our views only as of today and should not be relied upon as representing our views as of any subsequent date. Please note that a copy of our Q1 financial results press release is available in the Investor Relations section of our website. Speaker 100:01:11We also have a short presentation with highlights from today's call that can be viewed directly on the webcast or accessed on our website. I am joined on this call by Vericel's President and Chief Executive Officer, Nick Colangelo and our Chief Financial Officer, Joe Mara. I will now turn the call over to Nick. Speaker 200:01:29Thank you, Eric, and good morning, everyone. I'll begin today's call by discussing our financial and business highlights for the Q1 as well as our expectations for the remainder of the year. Joe will then provide a more detailed review of our Q1 financial performance and our updated guidance for 2023 before opening the call to Q and A. We entered 2023 with a great deal of momentum As we generated strong MACI growth in the second half of last year and achieved significant regulatory milestones, including an accelerated regulatory pathway for the arthroscopic MACI program and the FDA approval of NexoBrid. That momentum continued through the Q1 as we had a very strong start to the year from both a financial and overall business perspective, delivering record MACI and total revenue for the Q1 and making significant progress on our MACI lifecycle management programs and NexoBrid commercial launch activities. Speaker 200:02:29From a financial perspective, we generated total revenue of $41,000,000 for the quarter with both MACI and Epicel ahead of our Q1 guidance. We also continued to generate strong profitability As we delivered our 11th straight quarter of positive adjusted EBITDA and operating cash flow, ending the quarter with nearly $140,000,000 in cash and investments and no debt. Based on our positive first quarter results and underlying business fundamentals, We're increasing our 2023 full year revenue guidance to $184,000,000 to $192,000,000 Our financial results for the quarter were driven by record 1st quarter MACI revenue of $34,200,000 representing growth of 32% compared to the prior year. This strong revenue growth was driven by continued significant increases in Surgeon engagement and utilization of MACI. In addition to generating record first quarter revenue in implants, We had the highest number of surgeons taking biopsies in any quarter since we launched MACI and a record number of 1st quarter biopsies. Speaker 200:03:39The last two quarters were our highest biopsy quarters ever with 1st quarter biopsies nearly matching the record number of MACI biopsies taken in the 4th This is a noteworthy performance and that we typically see a seasonal step down in biopsy surgeons and biopsies in the Q1. It's also a reflection of the fact that our sales and marketing teams continue to execute at a high level and that the operating environment continues to improve. MACI clearly has resumed its high growth profile as we've had year over year growth of 30%, 24% and 32% over the last three quarters, representing a trailing 9 month growth rate of 28%. Based on the continued momentum that we've seen to start this quarter, We also expect strong MACI growth in the 2nd quarter and we're increasing our full year MACI revenue guidance to $156,000,000 to $160,000,000 This updated guidance implies 20% full year MACI growth at the midpoint and reflects strong sales rep productivity that surpasses our historical high of $2,000,000 per rep achieved prior to our last sales force expansion. With respect to our MACI lifecycle management initiatives, the MACI arthroscopic delivery program remains on track as we continue to progress with our plans to conduct the human factors validation study this year with an anticipated potential launch in 2024. Speaker 200:05:10We believe that the arthroscopic delivery of MACI will be a very attractive potential option for many patients and surgeons. And importantly, the MACI arthroscopic instrument kit is designed to treat the most common defects in the MACI addressable market, which are 2 to 4 square centimeter defects on the femoral condyles, a segment which represents approximately 1 third of the overall MACI addressable market or 20,000 patients per year. If approved, MACI would be the only arthroscopic Restorative cartilage repair product on the market to treat these defects. We believe that this would allow MACI to take a greater share of these procedures that provide a significant upside growth opportunity for MACI and the company in the years ahead. We also continue to advance the MACI development program for the treatment of cartilage defects in the ankle and recently conducted an initial pre IND meeting with the FDA. Speaker 200:06:06We believe that a potential ankle indication with an estimated $1,000,000,000 addressable market could be a significant growth driver for MACI over the long term. Turning to our burn care franchise, we reported 1st quarter Epicel revenue of approximately $7,000,000 which was an increase over the prior quarter and ahead of our guidance for the Q1. Importantly, as compared to the Q4, We saw a higher proportion of biopsy patients moving on to treatment with Epicel as well as an increase towards previous levels in the average number of grafts per patient. With respect to NexoBrid, our commercial launch activities remain on track and interest from burn surgeons and healthcare providers remains very high. From an access perspective, P and T committee packages have been submitted at about 1 third of the 90 centers we are targeting this year And we're tracking ahead of our initial goals for both P and T committee submissions and approvals. Speaker 200:07:04Strong surgeon interest is also reflected by the fact that NexoBrid was Selected for inclusion in the pre conference healthcare professional education sessions at the upcoming American Bird Association Annual Meeting next week with hands on lab demonstrations by leading burn surgeons. In terms of NexoBrid product availability, Our initial expectation was that we would receive commercial product from MediWound and generate some initial stocking revenue towards the end of the second quarter Based on the projected timelines to complete the additional manufacturing updates required by the FDA in connection with the NexoBrid BLA approval. We now believe that assuming timely successful completion of these manufacturing updates, Commercial product availability is more likely to occur early in Q3, which did not impact Our full year burn care revenue guidance of $28,000,000 to $32,000,000 for the year. I'll now turn the call over to Joe to discuss our Q1 financial results. Speaker 300:08:06Thank you, Nick, and good morning, everyone. Starting with the income statement. Total net revenue for the quarter was $41,000,000 driven by strong MACI revenue of $34,200,000 $6,800,000 of Epicel revenue. Gross profit for the quarter was $26,500,000 or 65 percent of net revenue, consistent with the prior year. Total operating expenses for the quarter were $34,700,000 compared to $30,700,000 for the same period in 2022. Speaker 300:08:39The increase in operating expenses was primarily due to higher employee related expenses, variable expenses due to higher MACI sales volumes An increase in person and conference related activity compared to last year. Net loss for the quarter was 7,500,000 or $0.16 per share compared to $7,100,000 or $0.15 per share for the Q1 of 2022. Non GAAP adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $1,700,000 and importantly, this is now the 11th consecutive quarter that we have generated positive adjusted EBITDA. Finally, we generated approximately $8,000,000 of operating cash flow in the quarter and we ended Q1 with approximately 139,000,000 Cash and investments and no debt. Note that during the quarter, we paid MediWound the $7,500,000 NexoBrid approval milestone After the approval of NexoBrid and net of this payment, our cash and investments increased by approximately $6,500,000 during the quarter. Speaker 300:09:43Turning to our financial guidance. We are increasing our full year revenue guidance for 2023. We now expect total revenue of $184,000,000 to $192,000,000 compared to our prior revenue guidance of 180 to $188,000,000 We are maintaining our profitability guidance and expect gross margin to be in the high 60% range and adjusted EBITDA in the mid teens percentage range. For MACI, we now expect full year revenue of 156 to $160,000,000 an increase versus our prior guidance of $152,000,000 to $156,000,000 with growth expected to be approximately 20% for the full year. As Nick highlighted earlier, Our MACI momentum has continued into the Q2 and we expect MACI growth in the quarter to remain strong in the low 20% range With revenue of approximately $34,500,000 in Q2. Speaker 300:10:47For our burn care franchise, we are maintaining Our full year revenue guidance of $28,000,000 to $32,000,000 For the Q2, based on a continuation Of the improved trends we saw for Epicel in Q1, we expect another quarter of approximately $7,000,000 of Epicel revenue in Q2. And for NexoBrid, our guidance assumes product availability and the first commercial sales of NexoBrid in the Q3. Overall for the company, we are very pleased that MACI's strong first quarter performance and outlook for the year coupled with our burn care revenue growing off Our Q4 quarterly run rate has brought the company back to our high growth profile in 2023. And importantly, as we move into 2024, we would also anticipate continued acceleration of our total company revenue growth with a full year of NexoBrid in the market and the anticipated launch of arthroscopic MACI. This now concludes our prepared remarks. Speaker 300:11:46We will open the call to your questions. Operator00:11:50Thank And our first question will come from the line of Ryan Zimmerman with BTIG. Gee, your line is open. Speaker 400:12:16Hey, guys. Congrats on the quarter and thanks for taking our questions. Just I want to touch on some of the guidance commentary you gave today. So it sounds like Appreciate the commentary on Q2, Joe, for MACI. But with the biopsies hitting these record levels the past 2 quarters, How should we think about MACI growth, particularly in the second half of the year relative to maybe historical seasonality? Speaker 400:12:44And just We know Q4 is going to be strong, but it now seems like Q3 could be primed to also have maybe an atypical seasonal dynamic. Speaker 300:12:57Yes. So good morning, Ryan, and thanks for the question. So if I touch on that just briefly on 3 pieces, kind of hit on Q1 as you talked about, Talk about some of the key Q2 dynamics, particularly from a comparison perspective and then close out with the full year. So I think to To your point and as we talked about in the prepared remarks, Q1 was a really strong quarter for us. So obviously great execution by the team and really just Kind of strengthened across the board in our underlying metrics. Speaker 300:13:24So as we talked about, we had the highest number of surgeons we've had in any quarter doing biopsies, These kind of record biopsies in Q1, newly matched Q4 and really continues the trend of the last couple of quarters in the back half of last year with the high growth. I would also say importantly in the Q1 that our conversion rate, which stabilized in H2 of last year, improved in the Q1. So that's certainly And I think on a related note, a lot of the headwinds in the market dynamics, we think are behind us based on the metrics, kind of everything we're seeing And hearing from the field and also our kind of the external data. As we look to Q2, to kind of your question, I would say, we certainly expect kind of a continuation and we've had these strong buyouts that that will continue to drive a very strong Q2. I think as you think about the Q2, a couple of things to point out there as well, which is we've guided to kind of that low twenty But if you look at last year in Q2, we actually had a benefit from a pricing kind of payer dynamic That impacted Q2 of last year. Speaker 300:14:30So when you look at kind of that low 20% growth, it actually ends up being kind of more like the high When you make that adjustment on a year over year comparison. And I actually think that's important to your question as well as you think about the cadence of this year. When you look at Q1 to Q2 and kind of ends your question into Q3, you probably see kind of in that single digit growth range across the quarters and that's Actually similar to what you saw last year, particularly when you adjust for kind of that payer dynamic in Q2. And then I think to your question in terms of Kind of the full year, we are assuming we have increased the guidance and we are higher than we started the year in the last couple of years and we are at 20% But as we kind of think about kind of the growth in the back half, we think we have the foundation certainly set up for A really strong kind of back half of the year in Q3 and Q4. But I would also say from kind of a guidance framework, at this point, we're not going to assume that Our conversion rate that was strong in Q1 continues throughout the back half of the year and kind of our framework hasn't changed in terms of assuming As those surgeons and those biopsies continue to drive kind of strong results. Speaker 300:15:40So I think we want to wait a little bit longer in that and not get ahead of ourselves. But if you kind of look at the quarters and really the back It's driven by the strong biopsies in surgeons. Okay. Speaker 400:15:50Very helpful, Joe. And then just on the margins, and I might have missed this in your prepared remarks, Joe. But given where gross margins came in relative to last year and where the op and the adjusted EBITDA margins are coming in. Kind of what do you expect from an investment perspective as you prepare for NexoBrid launch and also Speaker 300:16:23Gross margins came in line with last year and adjusted EBITDA. Margins looked a little bit different, but they're From a quarterly perspective, that's probably hard to look at. I think when you look on a full year basis, we still think we can be in that high 60% range on a full year basis on gross margin. I still think we can be in that mid teens range and likely on a year over year basis when we think about the adjusted EBITDA on a full year basis. So I think certainly as we kind of think about the year, there are investments That are kind of part of our P and L, whether that's life cycle management and our episodic MACI, etcetera, or for the NexoBrid launch. Speaker 300:17:01But we think we still think we're Kind of in that margin range that we initially laid out. Speaker 400:17:06Okay. Thanks guys. Speaker 300:17:09Thank you, Ryan. Operator00:17:11And one moment for our next Speaker 500:17:17Question that will come from Operator00:17:18the line of Sam Bradovsky with Chrous Securities. Your line is open. Speaker 600:17:24Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question and congrats on a good start to the year. I'll just ask 2 on NexoBrid. One, just to start off with the supply. Can you give us any color on what needs to get accomplished there to Speaker 200:17:49Yes. Hey, Sam, this is Nick. So I think as we mentioned post approval and in earlier calls, There were just inspections of MediWound and the CBC facility in Taiwan occurred sort of late last year. There were some updates that were ongoing and needed to be made and that sort of drove the timeline for the initial product availability. As we mentioned, we always expected that maybe we'd have a little stocking revenue, if product was made available towards the end of the second quarter. Speaker 200:18:25I think that it's just the dynamic of straddling a quarter end and we're just more comfortable saying that We think it's more likely Q3. So all the work that's been going on continues and that's kind of what's driving Our updated guidance, just more prudent to assume it starts in Q3. If it happens in Q2, Great. Speaker 600:18:51Okay. And then as it relates to the broader burn guidance, should we think about any Different complexion of how much of that is Epicel versus NexoBrid this year given the strong quarter and that supply dynamic? Speaker 300:19:06Sorry, I didn't hear the last part. Stan, can you just repeat the last part of your question? Speaker 600:19:10Sorry, just how much In the burn guidance, should we think about any different complexion there between Epicel and NexoBrid given the supply issue and the Stronger 1Q for Epicel? Speaker 300:19:26Yes. I mean, I think as we think about kind of the burn care number, It kind of starts in the Q1. Obviously, we were able to improve off Q4 and kind of grow up that number as we talked about Higher than that run rate of $6,000,000 a quarter by double digits in the Q1. And I think to your point, the guidance for the Q2 is around that $7,000,000 number. So again ahead of kind of our initial expectations. Speaker 300:19:50So I think as you kind of put the first two quarters together, the results from Q1 and our guidance for Q2, you're at Roughly $14,000,000 for the first half. So yes, that's certainly I think a strong first half on Epicel as we kind of think about the guidance 28 to 32. In terms of the components, it's probably similar to kind of what we talked about last quarter, which is there's still a number of scenarios to kind of get to that full year guidance If Epicel depending on kind of what Epicel does and again our kind of goal coming in here was $6,000,000 but if you're kind of at that run rate then the balance Next of NexoBrid, can kind of get you that guidance or obviously Epicel is kind of trending on its own at a higher rate right now. Broadly speaking, I would say kind of no change in terms of kind of the mix of kind of how to get there and just on kind of the stocking dynamic. I mean, that's really just Timing element, it doesn't change kind of our uptake forecast and patient forecast. Speaker 300:20:48That's just right now, we're just from a guidance perspective, assuming that That takes place in Q3 versus Q2. So really no change other than probably the start of the year on Epicel is probably a bit stronger than anticipated. Speaker 600:21:03Great. Thanks for taking the questions. Operator00:21:06Thank you. One moment for our next question. Speaker 500:21:13And that will come from Operator00:21:14the line of Jeffrey Cohen with Ladenburg Thalmann. Your line is open. Speaker 700:21:19Hey, good morning and thank you for taking our questions. Congrats on a strong quarter. A few from our end. I guess firstly, Could you talk about the commercial organization relative to NexoBrid? I know that Previously, you were talking about breaking out a separate sales force to go after non burn focused centers. Speaker 700:21:42Any update there from your end? Speaker 200:21:47Yes. Hey, Jeff, it's Nick. So our plan for the commercial sales force expansion remains the same With respect to the NexoBrid launch, so obviously we have a field force out there now of sales reps and clinical support specialists to support Epicel. And as we had mentioned, with the launch of NexoBrid, we were adding 6 additional NexoBrid only reps to start, and that has sort of remained The same. And so the majority of those reps have already been hired in our out in the field. Speaker 200:22:26So we're kind of excited obviously to have Bigger footprint and reach more centers as we move forward throughout the rest of the year. Speaker 700:22:35Okay, great. And then Could you talk about MACI a little bit as far as geographies or centers, utility, number of docs, Surgeons that have been trained out there. Any kind of big picture snapshots worth calling out? Speaker 200:22:54Yes, I think building on sort of our metrics from last year where we said We had about 2,000 biopsying surgeons out of our 5,000 targets. Obviously, we had a lot Strength in the Q1 where we had the highest ever biopsying surgeons. And again, that's pretty meaningful in the Q1 where Historically, you had seen a bit of a step down from the Q4 into the Q1. So we're really quite frankly Encouraged and quite excited about sort of the continued increase in surgeon engagement in terms of surgeons. So And in terms of geographies, our sales force, we expanded to 76 reps back in 2020. Speaker 200:23:43We feel at this point that those are obviously much more manageable territories for the reps. As we look Forward, we don't think we need to sort of realign territories to add additional resources yet, but we're certainly open to doing different things like Piloting support reps in some of the higher volume territories and so on to make sure that we have adequate coverage of cases and so on. Speaker 700:24:10Okay, got it. And then lastly for us, any commentary about the FDA and what perhaps a Trial relative to the ankle may look like as far as number of patients and any endpoints. How are you thinking about running the trial? Or How might the agency be thinking about running a trial? Speaker 200:24:30Yes. Well, as I mentioned, we did have an initial pre IND meeting With the FDA on our planned program and there's a little preclinical work element to it and then there's a clinical study. And I think it's Safe to say we're kind of generally aligned at this point on that. And we've always said that unlike MACI arthroscopic, We're very pleased to sort of have gained alignment with the FDA on simply a human factor study as opposed to a clinical study. For MACI in the ankle, it would be more like the SUMMIT study for MACI in the knee, where it was in that case about 150 patients, probably Maybe closer to 200 for the ankle program and that would be our Operating assumption at this point and we'll continue to update investors on it as we continue to refine Operator00:25:37Thank you. One moment for our next question. Speaker 500:25:42And that will come from Operator00:25:43the line of George Sellers with Stephens, your line is open. Speaker 800:25:48Hey, good morning and thanks for taking the question. Congrats on the great quarter. Maybe to Dig in a little bit more on that Q1 biopsy number. What are some of the dynamics that are driving that? Is it primarily Market staying strong here in the Q1 or are you seeing physicians getting more comfortable with the procedure or is there some Positive reimbursement change. Speaker 800:26:12What's kind of driving that elevated biopsy number here in the Q1? Speaker 200:26:18Well, I would say that as Joe alluded to that we definitely have seen sort of improvements in the market. And obviously that Think of it as sort of eliminating headwinds and just higher patient flow, things like that. So that's obviously as there's more traffic in these surgeons' Offices, that obviously is a contributor as well. I'd say there's also just a continued Expansion in surgeon engagement around the brand as more as their practices normalize and sort of more surgeons Become aware of MACI, we just have stronger engagement and that's what resulted in The highest number of biopsies surgeons in any quarter in the Q1. So we're very encouraged that as Those headwinds abate and our reps are out in force that we're just kind of continuing to make good strong progress on surgeon engagement. Speaker 200:27:17No reimbursement sort of changes of note, continued strong approval rates as we've talked about in the past and obviously that's helpful as well. Speaker 800:27:28Okay. That's helpful. And then maybe to revisit the comments around sales reps, it sounds like They're continuing to drive productivity there. And you mentioned you don't plan to need to add any realigned territories yet, but just curious The timing on that, as you think about continued productivity improvements and then the arthroscopic option coming in 2024, What's sort of the timeline for potentially adding additional reps? Speaker 200:27:59Yes. Well, when we added reps back in 2020, we said we Felt like we were sizing the sales force properly for the next 2 to 3 years or more and that we would revisit it a couple of years out. Obviously, We had all the disruption of COVID, so that kind of influenced we did take another look and felt like we're comfortable at this point. I think as we look ahead to arthroscopic MACI, as I mentioned earlier, when we increased our targets from 3000 to 5000 surgeons, we made a Corresponding increase in the sales force size. We'll go through that exercise again as we get closer to next year and a Potential launch and depending on the number of targets we would add from the predominant or Arthroscopic only surgeon pool that will dictate sort of whether we need to add reps or not. Speaker 200:28:57I don't think it would be anywhere near the same size or percentage expansion that we did in the past, but that's something we'll determine As we move throughout the year. Speaker 800:29:08Okay, very helpful. Thank you and congrats again on a great quarter. Speaker 200:29:13Thanks, Jordan. Operator00:29:15Thank you. One moment for our next question. Speaker 500:29:21And that will come from Operator00:29:22the line of Sean Lee with H. C. Wainwright. Your line is open. Speaker 900:29:28Good morning, everyone. Congrats on a great quarter and thanks for taking my questions. My first question was, I I was wondering if we could provide a bit more color into the surgeon metrics from MAC in terms of what are your net surgeon growth, The number of biopsy growth and as well as the conversion rates. Speaker 300:29:49Yes. So good morning. This Joseph, thanks for the question. I think, I guess the way I would kind of frame it is probably more similar to what we talked about on the call and some of the questions, which is, Earlier in the year, it's probably hard to look at kind of absolute percentage growth and whatnot, particularly on the surgeons. But I think that kind of point that we've had the highest number of surgeons biopsying in any quarter is kind of sort of speaks for itself. Speaker 300:30:14So clearly that is A significant number. And then in terms of the biopsy growth, again, we're a quarter into the year, but I think what's Important and what's really been driving particularly the Q1 results on the revenue side, which were quite strong is, I would say kind of an acceleration That biopsy growth started toward the end of last year and certainly has continued into Q1. So I think we're encouraged by the engagement and The number of surgeons being kind of at its highest point in a quarter, but also I would say the accelerating growth on the biopsies, which we think Certainly drives the Q1, but also positions us well for the remainder of the year. Speaker 900:30:52Great. Thanks for that. My last question is on the manufacturing side. I was wondering whether the new manufacturing facility is still on track for 2025, I believe, is what your last guidance call for? Speaker 200:31:08Yes. So the new facility in Burlington is On track with our prior timelines and we would expect that The office space will be done earlier and obviously manufacturing space needs to go through the FDA approval process. It could very well be a staged move where the office portion of the company kind of moves up there maybe late next year. And then commercial manufacturing, we would expect to begin in Q1 2026. So everything moving forward is planned. Speaker 900:31:46Great. That's all I have and thanks again for taking my questions. Speaker 300:31:50Okay. Thank you very much. Operator00:31:53I'm showing no further questions in the queue at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Nick Colangelo for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:32:02Okay. Well, thank you, operator, and thanks to everyone for your questions and your continued interest in Vericel. Obviously, the company Well in the Q1 and had a great start to the year. We expect to deliver another year of strong financial and operating results in 2023 and we look forward to providing further updates on our next call. So thanks again and have a great day. Operator00:32:27Thank you all for participating. This concludes today's program. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallVericel Q1 202300:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2x Earnings DocumentsSlide DeckPress Release(8-K)Quarterly report(10-Q) Vericel Earnings HeadlinesVericel price target lowered to $60 from $63 at BTIGApril 15 at 8:07 PM | markets.businessinsider.comVericel (NASDAQ:VCEL) Price Target Lowered to $51.00 at Truist FinancialApril 13, 2025 | americanbankingnews.comWarning: “DOGE Collapse” imminentElon Strikes Back You may already sense that the tide is turning against Elon Musk and DOGE. Just this week, President Trump promised to buy a Tesla to help support Musk in the face of a boycott against his company. 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Email Address About VericelVericel (NASDAQ:VCEL), a commercial-stage biopharmaceutical company, engages in the research, development, manufacture, and distribution of cellular therapies for sports medicine and severe burn care markets in North America. The company markets autologous cell therapy products comprising MACI, an autologous cultured chondrocytes on porcine collagen membrane for the repair of symptomatic, and single or multiple full-thickness cartilage defects of the knee; Epicel, a permanent skin replacement humanitarian use device for the treatment of adult and pediatric patients with deep-dermal or full-thickness burns; and NexoBrid, a biological orphan product for eschar removal in adults with deep partial-thickness and/or full-thickness thermal burns. The company was formerly known as Aastrom Biosciences, Inc. 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There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to Vericel's First Quarter 2023 Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. I would also like to remind you that this call is being recorded for replay. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Eric Byrnes, Vericel's Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations. Speaker 100:00:24Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to Vericel's Q1 23 conference call to discuss our financial results and business highlights. Before we begin, let me remind you on today's call, We will be making forward looking statements covered under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements may involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results In addition, all forward looking statements represent our views only as of today and should not be relied upon as representing our views as of any subsequent date. Please note that a copy of our Q1 financial results press release is available in the Investor Relations section of our website. Speaker 100:01:11We also have a short presentation with highlights from today's call that can be viewed directly on the webcast or accessed on our website. I am joined on this call by Vericel's President and Chief Executive Officer, Nick Colangelo and our Chief Financial Officer, Joe Mara. I will now turn the call over to Nick. Speaker 200:01:29Thank you, Eric, and good morning, everyone. I'll begin today's call by discussing our financial and business highlights for the Q1 as well as our expectations for the remainder of the year. Joe will then provide a more detailed review of our Q1 financial performance and our updated guidance for 2023 before opening the call to Q and A. We entered 2023 with a great deal of momentum As we generated strong MACI growth in the second half of last year and achieved significant regulatory milestones, including an accelerated regulatory pathway for the arthroscopic MACI program and the FDA approval of NexoBrid. That momentum continued through the Q1 as we had a very strong start to the year from both a financial and overall business perspective, delivering record MACI and total revenue for the Q1 and making significant progress on our MACI lifecycle management programs and NexoBrid commercial launch activities. Speaker 200:02:29From a financial perspective, we generated total revenue of $41,000,000 for the quarter with both MACI and Epicel ahead of our Q1 guidance. We also continued to generate strong profitability As we delivered our 11th straight quarter of positive adjusted EBITDA and operating cash flow, ending the quarter with nearly $140,000,000 in cash and investments and no debt. Based on our positive first quarter results and underlying business fundamentals, We're increasing our 2023 full year revenue guidance to $184,000,000 to $192,000,000 Our financial results for the quarter were driven by record 1st quarter MACI revenue of $34,200,000 representing growth of 32% compared to the prior year. This strong revenue growth was driven by continued significant increases in Surgeon engagement and utilization of MACI. In addition to generating record first quarter revenue in implants, We had the highest number of surgeons taking biopsies in any quarter since we launched MACI and a record number of 1st quarter biopsies. Speaker 200:03:39The last two quarters were our highest biopsy quarters ever with 1st quarter biopsies nearly matching the record number of MACI biopsies taken in the 4th This is a noteworthy performance and that we typically see a seasonal step down in biopsy surgeons and biopsies in the Q1. It's also a reflection of the fact that our sales and marketing teams continue to execute at a high level and that the operating environment continues to improve. MACI clearly has resumed its high growth profile as we've had year over year growth of 30%, 24% and 32% over the last three quarters, representing a trailing 9 month growth rate of 28%. Based on the continued momentum that we've seen to start this quarter, We also expect strong MACI growth in the 2nd quarter and we're increasing our full year MACI revenue guidance to $156,000,000 to $160,000,000 This updated guidance implies 20% full year MACI growth at the midpoint and reflects strong sales rep productivity that surpasses our historical high of $2,000,000 per rep achieved prior to our last sales force expansion. With respect to our MACI lifecycle management initiatives, the MACI arthroscopic delivery program remains on track as we continue to progress with our plans to conduct the human factors validation study this year with an anticipated potential launch in 2024. Speaker 200:05:10We believe that the arthroscopic delivery of MACI will be a very attractive potential option for many patients and surgeons. And importantly, the MACI arthroscopic instrument kit is designed to treat the most common defects in the MACI addressable market, which are 2 to 4 square centimeter defects on the femoral condyles, a segment which represents approximately 1 third of the overall MACI addressable market or 20,000 patients per year. If approved, MACI would be the only arthroscopic Restorative cartilage repair product on the market to treat these defects. We believe that this would allow MACI to take a greater share of these procedures that provide a significant upside growth opportunity for MACI and the company in the years ahead. We also continue to advance the MACI development program for the treatment of cartilage defects in the ankle and recently conducted an initial pre IND meeting with the FDA. Speaker 200:06:06We believe that a potential ankle indication with an estimated $1,000,000,000 addressable market could be a significant growth driver for MACI over the long term. Turning to our burn care franchise, we reported 1st quarter Epicel revenue of approximately $7,000,000 which was an increase over the prior quarter and ahead of our guidance for the Q1. Importantly, as compared to the Q4, We saw a higher proportion of biopsy patients moving on to treatment with Epicel as well as an increase towards previous levels in the average number of grafts per patient. With respect to NexoBrid, our commercial launch activities remain on track and interest from burn surgeons and healthcare providers remains very high. From an access perspective, P and T committee packages have been submitted at about 1 third of the 90 centers we are targeting this year And we're tracking ahead of our initial goals for both P and T committee submissions and approvals. Speaker 200:07:04Strong surgeon interest is also reflected by the fact that NexoBrid was Selected for inclusion in the pre conference healthcare professional education sessions at the upcoming American Bird Association Annual Meeting next week with hands on lab demonstrations by leading burn surgeons. In terms of NexoBrid product availability, Our initial expectation was that we would receive commercial product from MediWound and generate some initial stocking revenue towards the end of the second quarter Based on the projected timelines to complete the additional manufacturing updates required by the FDA in connection with the NexoBrid BLA approval. We now believe that assuming timely successful completion of these manufacturing updates, Commercial product availability is more likely to occur early in Q3, which did not impact Our full year burn care revenue guidance of $28,000,000 to $32,000,000 for the year. I'll now turn the call over to Joe to discuss our Q1 financial results. Speaker 300:08:06Thank you, Nick, and good morning, everyone. Starting with the income statement. Total net revenue for the quarter was $41,000,000 driven by strong MACI revenue of $34,200,000 $6,800,000 of Epicel revenue. Gross profit for the quarter was $26,500,000 or 65 percent of net revenue, consistent with the prior year. Total operating expenses for the quarter were $34,700,000 compared to $30,700,000 for the same period in 2022. Speaker 300:08:39The increase in operating expenses was primarily due to higher employee related expenses, variable expenses due to higher MACI sales volumes An increase in person and conference related activity compared to last year. Net loss for the quarter was 7,500,000 or $0.16 per share compared to $7,100,000 or $0.15 per share for the Q1 of 2022. Non GAAP adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $1,700,000 and importantly, this is now the 11th consecutive quarter that we have generated positive adjusted EBITDA. Finally, we generated approximately $8,000,000 of operating cash flow in the quarter and we ended Q1 with approximately 139,000,000 Cash and investments and no debt. Note that during the quarter, we paid MediWound the $7,500,000 NexoBrid approval milestone After the approval of NexoBrid and net of this payment, our cash and investments increased by approximately $6,500,000 during the quarter. Speaker 300:09:43Turning to our financial guidance. We are increasing our full year revenue guidance for 2023. We now expect total revenue of $184,000,000 to $192,000,000 compared to our prior revenue guidance of 180 to $188,000,000 We are maintaining our profitability guidance and expect gross margin to be in the high 60% range and adjusted EBITDA in the mid teens percentage range. For MACI, we now expect full year revenue of 156 to $160,000,000 an increase versus our prior guidance of $152,000,000 to $156,000,000 with growth expected to be approximately 20% for the full year. As Nick highlighted earlier, Our MACI momentum has continued into the Q2 and we expect MACI growth in the quarter to remain strong in the low 20% range With revenue of approximately $34,500,000 in Q2. Speaker 300:10:47For our burn care franchise, we are maintaining Our full year revenue guidance of $28,000,000 to $32,000,000 For the Q2, based on a continuation Of the improved trends we saw for Epicel in Q1, we expect another quarter of approximately $7,000,000 of Epicel revenue in Q2. And for NexoBrid, our guidance assumes product availability and the first commercial sales of NexoBrid in the Q3. Overall for the company, we are very pleased that MACI's strong first quarter performance and outlook for the year coupled with our burn care revenue growing off Our Q4 quarterly run rate has brought the company back to our high growth profile in 2023. And importantly, as we move into 2024, we would also anticipate continued acceleration of our total company revenue growth with a full year of NexoBrid in the market and the anticipated launch of arthroscopic MACI. This now concludes our prepared remarks. Speaker 300:11:46We will open the call to your questions. Operator00:11:50Thank And our first question will come from the line of Ryan Zimmerman with BTIG. Gee, your line is open. Speaker 400:12:16Hey, guys. Congrats on the quarter and thanks for taking our questions. Just I want to touch on some of the guidance commentary you gave today. So it sounds like Appreciate the commentary on Q2, Joe, for MACI. But with the biopsies hitting these record levels the past 2 quarters, How should we think about MACI growth, particularly in the second half of the year relative to maybe historical seasonality? Speaker 400:12:44And just We know Q4 is going to be strong, but it now seems like Q3 could be primed to also have maybe an atypical seasonal dynamic. Speaker 300:12:57Yes. So good morning, Ryan, and thanks for the question. So if I touch on that just briefly on 3 pieces, kind of hit on Q1 as you talked about, Talk about some of the key Q2 dynamics, particularly from a comparison perspective and then close out with the full year. So I think to To your point and as we talked about in the prepared remarks, Q1 was a really strong quarter for us. So obviously great execution by the team and really just Kind of strengthened across the board in our underlying metrics. Speaker 300:13:24So as we talked about, we had the highest number of surgeons we've had in any quarter doing biopsies, These kind of record biopsies in Q1, newly matched Q4 and really continues the trend of the last couple of quarters in the back half of last year with the high growth. I would also say importantly in the Q1 that our conversion rate, which stabilized in H2 of last year, improved in the Q1. So that's certainly And I think on a related note, a lot of the headwinds in the market dynamics, we think are behind us based on the metrics, kind of everything we're seeing And hearing from the field and also our kind of the external data. As we look to Q2, to kind of your question, I would say, we certainly expect kind of a continuation and we've had these strong buyouts that that will continue to drive a very strong Q2. I think as you think about the Q2, a couple of things to point out there as well, which is we've guided to kind of that low twenty But if you look at last year in Q2, we actually had a benefit from a pricing kind of payer dynamic That impacted Q2 of last year. Speaker 300:14:30So when you look at kind of that low 20% growth, it actually ends up being kind of more like the high When you make that adjustment on a year over year comparison. And I actually think that's important to your question as well as you think about the cadence of this year. When you look at Q1 to Q2 and kind of ends your question into Q3, you probably see kind of in that single digit growth range across the quarters and that's Actually similar to what you saw last year, particularly when you adjust for kind of that payer dynamic in Q2. And then I think to your question in terms of Kind of the full year, we are assuming we have increased the guidance and we are higher than we started the year in the last couple of years and we are at 20% But as we kind of think about kind of the growth in the back half, we think we have the foundation certainly set up for A really strong kind of back half of the year in Q3 and Q4. But I would also say from kind of a guidance framework, at this point, we're not going to assume that Our conversion rate that was strong in Q1 continues throughout the back half of the year and kind of our framework hasn't changed in terms of assuming As those surgeons and those biopsies continue to drive kind of strong results. Speaker 300:15:40So I think we want to wait a little bit longer in that and not get ahead of ourselves. But if you kind of look at the quarters and really the back It's driven by the strong biopsies in surgeons. Okay. Speaker 400:15:50Very helpful, Joe. And then just on the margins, and I might have missed this in your prepared remarks, Joe. But given where gross margins came in relative to last year and where the op and the adjusted EBITDA margins are coming in. Kind of what do you expect from an investment perspective as you prepare for NexoBrid launch and also Speaker 300:16:23Gross margins came in line with last year and adjusted EBITDA. Margins looked a little bit different, but they're From a quarterly perspective, that's probably hard to look at. I think when you look on a full year basis, we still think we can be in that high 60% range on a full year basis on gross margin. I still think we can be in that mid teens range and likely on a year over year basis when we think about the adjusted EBITDA on a full year basis. So I think certainly as we kind of think about the year, there are investments That are kind of part of our P and L, whether that's life cycle management and our episodic MACI, etcetera, or for the NexoBrid launch. Speaker 300:17:01But we think we still think we're Kind of in that margin range that we initially laid out. Speaker 400:17:06Okay. Thanks guys. Speaker 300:17:09Thank you, Ryan. Operator00:17:11And one moment for our next Speaker 500:17:17Question that will come from Operator00:17:18the line of Sam Bradovsky with Chrous Securities. Your line is open. Speaker 600:17:24Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question and congrats on a good start to the year. I'll just ask 2 on NexoBrid. One, just to start off with the supply. Can you give us any color on what needs to get accomplished there to Speaker 200:17:49Yes. Hey, Sam, this is Nick. So I think as we mentioned post approval and in earlier calls, There were just inspections of MediWound and the CBC facility in Taiwan occurred sort of late last year. There were some updates that were ongoing and needed to be made and that sort of drove the timeline for the initial product availability. As we mentioned, we always expected that maybe we'd have a little stocking revenue, if product was made available towards the end of the second quarter. Speaker 200:18:25I think that it's just the dynamic of straddling a quarter end and we're just more comfortable saying that We think it's more likely Q3. So all the work that's been going on continues and that's kind of what's driving Our updated guidance, just more prudent to assume it starts in Q3. If it happens in Q2, Great. Speaker 600:18:51Okay. And then as it relates to the broader burn guidance, should we think about any Different complexion of how much of that is Epicel versus NexoBrid this year given the strong quarter and that supply dynamic? Speaker 300:19:06Sorry, I didn't hear the last part. Stan, can you just repeat the last part of your question? Speaker 600:19:10Sorry, just how much In the burn guidance, should we think about any different complexion there between Epicel and NexoBrid given the supply issue and the Stronger 1Q for Epicel? Speaker 300:19:26Yes. I mean, I think as we think about kind of the burn care number, It kind of starts in the Q1. Obviously, we were able to improve off Q4 and kind of grow up that number as we talked about Higher than that run rate of $6,000,000 a quarter by double digits in the Q1. And I think to your point, the guidance for the Q2 is around that $7,000,000 number. So again ahead of kind of our initial expectations. Speaker 300:19:50So I think as you kind of put the first two quarters together, the results from Q1 and our guidance for Q2, you're at Roughly $14,000,000 for the first half. So yes, that's certainly I think a strong first half on Epicel as we kind of think about the guidance 28 to 32. In terms of the components, it's probably similar to kind of what we talked about last quarter, which is there's still a number of scenarios to kind of get to that full year guidance If Epicel depending on kind of what Epicel does and again our kind of goal coming in here was $6,000,000 but if you're kind of at that run rate then the balance Next of NexoBrid, can kind of get you that guidance or obviously Epicel is kind of trending on its own at a higher rate right now. Broadly speaking, I would say kind of no change in terms of kind of the mix of kind of how to get there and just on kind of the stocking dynamic. I mean, that's really just Timing element, it doesn't change kind of our uptake forecast and patient forecast. Speaker 300:20:48That's just right now, we're just from a guidance perspective, assuming that That takes place in Q3 versus Q2. So really no change other than probably the start of the year on Epicel is probably a bit stronger than anticipated. Speaker 600:21:03Great. Thanks for taking the questions. Operator00:21:06Thank you. One moment for our next question. Speaker 500:21:13And that will come from Operator00:21:14the line of Jeffrey Cohen with Ladenburg Thalmann. Your line is open. Speaker 700:21:19Hey, good morning and thank you for taking our questions. Congrats on a strong quarter. A few from our end. I guess firstly, Could you talk about the commercial organization relative to NexoBrid? I know that Previously, you were talking about breaking out a separate sales force to go after non burn focused centers. Speaker 700:21:42Any update there from your end? Speaker 200:21:47Yes. Hey, Jeff, it's Nick. So our plan for the commercial sales force expansion remains the same With respect to the NexoBrid launch, so obviously we have a field force out there now of sales reps and clinical support specialists to support Epicel. And as we had mentioned, with the launch of NexoBrid, we were adding 6 additional NexoBrid only reps to start, and that has sort of remained The same. And so the majority of those reps have already been hired in our out in the field. Speaker 200:22:26So we're kind of excited obviously to have Bigger footprint and reach more centers as we move forward throughout the rest of the year. Speaker 700:22:35Okay, great. And then Could you talk about MACI a little bit as far as geographies or centers, utility, number of docs, Surgeons that have been trained out there. Any kind of big picture snapshots worth calling out? Speaker 200:22:54Yes, I think building on sort of our metrics from last year where we said We had about 2,000 biopsying surgeons out of our 5,000 targets. Obviously, we had a lot Strength in the Q1 where we had the highest ever biopsying surgeons. And again, that's pretty meaningful in the Q1 where Historically, you had seen a bit of a step down from the Q4 into the Q1. So we're really quite frankly Encouraged and quite excited about sort of the continued increase in surgeon engagement in terms of surgeons. So And in terms of geographies, our sales force, we expanded to 76 reps back in 2020. Speaker 200:23:43We feel at this point that those are obviously much more manageable territories for the reps. As we look Forward, we don't think we need to sort of realign territories to add additional resources yet, but we're certainly open to doing different things like Piloting support reps in some of the higher volume territories and so on to make sure that we have adequate coverage of cases and so on. Speaker 700:24:10Okay, got it. And then lastly for us, any commentary about the FDA and what perhaps a Trial relative to the ankle may look like as far as number of patients and any endpoints. How are you thinking about running the trial? Or How might the agency be thinking about running a trial? Speaker 200:24:30Yes. Well, as I mentioned, we did have an initial pre IND meeting With the FDA on our planned program and there's a little preclinical work element to it and then there's a clinical study. And I think it's Safe to say we're kind of generally aligned at this point on that. And we've always said that unlike MACI arthroscopic, We're very pleased to sort of have gained alignment with the FDA on simply a human factor study as opposed to a clinical study. For MACI in the ankle, it would be more like the SUMMIT study for MACI in the knee, where it was in that case about 150 patients, probably Maybe closer to 200 for the ankle program and that would be our Operating assumption at this point and we'll continue to update investors on it as we continue to refine Operator00:25:37Thank you. One moment for our next question. Speaker 500:25:42And that will come from Operator00:25:43the line of George Sellers with Stephens, your line is open. Speaker 800:25:48Hey, good morning and thanks for taking the question. Congrats on the great quarter. Maybe to Dig in a little bit more on that Q1 biopsy number. What are some of the dynamics that are driving that? Is it primarily Market staying strong here in the Q1 or are you seeing physicians getting more comfortable with the procedure or is there some Positive reimbursement change. Speaker 800:26:12What's kind of driving that elevated biopsy number here in the Q1? Speaker 200:26:18Well, I would say that as Joe alluded to that we definitely have seen sort of improvements in the market. And obviously that Think of it as sort of eliminating headwinds and just higher patient flow, things like that. So that's obviously as there's more traffic in these surgeons' Offices, that obviously is a contributor as well. I'd say there's also just a continued Expansion in surgeon engagement around the brand as more as their practices normalize and sort of more surgeons Become aware of MACI, we just have stronger engagement and that's what resulted in The highest number of biopsies surgeons in any quarter in the Q1. So we're very encouraged that as Those headwinds abate and our reps are out in force that we're just kind of continuing to make good strong progress on surgeon engagement. Speaker 200:27:17No reimbursement sort of changes of note, continued strong approval rates as we've talked about in the past and obviously that's helpful as well. Speaker 800:27:28Okay. That's helpful. And then maybe to revisit the comments around sales reps, it sounds like They're continuing to drive productivity there. And you mentioned you don't plan to need to add any realigned territories yet, but just curious The timing on that, as you think about continued productivity improvements and then the arthroscopic option coming in 2024, What's sort of the timeline for potentially adding additional reps? Speaker 200:27:59Yes. Well, when we added reps back in 2020, we said we Felt like we were sizing the sales force properly for the next 2 to 3 years or more and that we would revisit it a couple of years out. Obviously, We had all the disruption of COVID, so that kind of influenced we did take another look and felt like we're comfortable at this point. I think as we look ahead to arthroscopic MACI, as I mentioned earlier, when we increased our targets from 3000 to 5000 surgeons, we made a Corresponding increase in the sales force size. We'll go through that exercise again as we get closer to next year and a Potential launch and depending on the number of targets we would add from the predominant or Arthroscopic only surgeon pool that will dictate sort of whether we need to add reps or not. Speaker 200:28:57I don't think it would be anywhere near the same size or percentage expansion that we did in the past, but that's something we'll determine As we move throughout the year. Speaker 800:29:08Okay, very helpful. Thank you and congrats again on a great quarter. Speaker 200:29:13Thanks, Jordan. Operator00:29:15Thank you. One moment for our next question. Speaker 500:29:21And that will come from Operator00:29:22the line of Sean Lee with H. C. Wainwright. Your line is open. Speaker 900:29:28Good morning, everyone. Congrats on a great quarter and thanks for taking my questions. My first question was, I I was wondering if we could provide a bit more color into the surgeon metrics from MAC in terms of what are your net surgeon growth, The number of biopsy growth and as well as the conversion rates. Speaker 300:29:49Yes. So good morning. This Joseph, thanks for the question. I think, I guess the way I would kind of frame it is probably more similar to what we talked about on the call and some of the questions, which is, Earlier in the year, it's probably hard to look at kind of absolute percentage growth and whatnot, particularly on the surgeons. But I think that kind of point that we've had the highest number of surgeons biopsying in any quarter is kind of sort of speaks for itself. Speaker 300:30:14So clearly that is A significant number. And then in terms of the biopsy growth, again, we're a quarter into the year, but I think what's Important and what's really been driving particularly the Q1 results on the revenue side, which were quite strong is, I would say kind of an acceleration That biopsy growth started toward the end of last year and certainly has continued into Q1. So I think we're encouraged by the engagement and The number of surgeons being kind of at its highest point in a quarter, but also I would say the accelerating growth on the biopsies, which we think Certainly drives the Q1, but also positions us well for the remainder of the year. Speaker 900:30:52Great. Thanks for that. My last question is on the manufacturing side. I was wondering whether the new manufacturing facility is still on track for 2025, I believe, is what your last guidance call for? Speaker 200:31:08Yes. So the new facility in Burlington is On track with our prior timelines and we would expect that The office space will be done earlier and obviously manufacturing space needs to go through the FDA approval process. It could very well be a staged move where the office portion of the company kind of moves up there maybe late next year. And then commercial manufacturing, we would expect to begin in Q1 2026. So everything moving forward is planned. Speaker 900:31:46Great. That's all I have and thanks again for taking my questions. Speaker 300:31:50Okay. Thank you very much. Operator00:31:53I'm showing no further questions in the queue at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Nick Colangelo for any closing remarks. Speaker 200:32:02Okay. Well, thank you, operator, and thanks to everyone for your questions and your continued interest in Vericel. Obviously, the company Well in the Q1 and had a great start to the year. We expect to deliver another year of strong financial and operating results in 2023 and we look forward to providing further updates on our next call. So thanks again and have a great day. Operator00:32:27Thank you all for participating. This concludes today's program. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by