NYSE:EIX Edison International Q1 2023 Earnings Report $57.95 -0.25 (-0.43%) Closing price 04/25/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$58.17 +0.22 (+0.38%) As of 04/25/2025 07:55 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Edison International EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.09Consensus EPS $1.04Beat/MissBeat by +$0.05One Year Ago EPS$1.07Edison International Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$3.97 billionExpected Revenue$4.00 billionBeat/MissMissed by -$31.75 millionYoY Revenue Growth-0.10%Edison International Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2023Date5/2/2023TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateTuesday, May 2, 2023Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsEdison International's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, April 29, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Edison International Q1 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 2, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:01Good afternoon, and welcome to the Edison International First Quarter 2023 Financial Teleconference. My name is Ted, and I will be your operator today. Today's call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Sam Ramraj, Vice President of Investor Relations. Operator00:00:20Mr. Ramraj, you may begin your conference. Speaker 100:00:23Thank you, Ted, and welcome, everyone. Our speakers today are President and Chief Executive Officer, Pedro Pizarro and Executive Vice President and Chief Also on the call are other members of the management team. Materials supporting today's call are available at www.edisoninvestor.com. These include a investor.com. These include a Form 10 Q, prepared remarks from Pedro and Maria and the teleconference presentation. Speaker 100:00:50Tomorrow, we will distribute our regular business update presentation. During this call, we'll make forward looking statements about the outlook for For Edison International and its subsidiaries, actual results could differ materially from current expectations. Important factors that could cause different results are set forth and our SEC filings, please read these carefully. The presentation includes certain outlook assumptions as well as reconciliation of non GAAP measures I will now turn the call over to Pedro. Speaker 200:01:27Thanks a lot Sam and good afternoon everybody. Edison International's core EPS for Q1 2023 was $1.09 We are pleased with our starts to the year and we are confident in affirming our 2023 core EPS guidance of $4.55 to $4.85 We also remain confident delivering our long term EPS growth target of 5% to 7% from 2021 to 2025. Maria will discuss our financial performance and outlook. My key message today is that we continue to see a number of positives in the near term and in the long term, and these make us excited for our company's future. SCE's actions to sustain and strengthen the electric grid, mitigate wildfires and enabled decarbonization through electrification are critically needed by California and are increasing our investment opportunity. Speaker 200:02:25In the longer term, our Pathway 2,045 analysis highlights the continued investment in transmission and distribution needed to evolve the grid. This is being recognized by regulators in California. In 2021, California ISO released a 20 year plan estimating about $30,000,000,000 of transmission investment needed to 2,040 consistent with our pathway analysis. Only a few weeks ago, Cal ISO published its draft 2022 to 2023 transmission plan with its current thinking on system needs over the next 10 years. The aircraft plan calls for 46 transmission projects with a total estimated cost of $9,300,000,000 Over $2,000,000,000 of that represents proposed incumbent projects for SCE and over $5,000,000,000 represents FERC Quarter 1,000 competitive projects within Southern California for which SCE will be able to compete. Speaker 200:03:29In the near term, SCE continues its diligent execution of its wildfire mitigation plan and has reduced the probability of losses from catastrophic wildfires by 75% to 80% compared to pre-twenty 18 levels, predominantly from grid hardening measures that allow the utility to mitigate risk while keeping electricity flowing to our customers. I want to say thanks again to the many of you who visited us in person at our headquarters and heard directly from several of our leaders upon the utility's achievements and ongoing actions. In March, SCE filed its 2023 to 2025 WMP with the Office of Energy Infrastructure Safety. Highlights of the plan are shown on Page 3. Our number one priority remains the safety of Public, customers, workers and first responders. Speaker 200:04:24In 2023, the utility is building on the work already accomplished, while focusing on 5 key areas. These are continuing to harden the grid, ramping up targeted undergrounding work in severe risk areas, continuing to reduce PSPS impacts, expanding aerial fire suppression funding to year round and furthering technological advancements. SCE's flagship grid hardening program, Covert Conductor, remains its key mitigation measure. More than 2,850 additional miles of covered conductor will be installed between 2023 2025. By the end of 2025, SCE expects to have replaced more than 7,200 miles or about 3 quarters of overhead distribution power lines in high fire risk areas with covered conductor. Speaker 200:05:19SCE also plans to complete about 100 miles of undergrounding by 2025 to address the high risk presented by unique factors in certain areas and plans to underground a total of 600 miles by the end of 2028. Additionally, to quickly suppress fires Regardless of how they start and protect the communities SCE serves, the utility continues to partner with the LA County Fire Department, Orange County Fire Authority and Ventura County Fire Department to expand their firefighting capabilities. As highlighted in the WMP, This support has been expanded to year round aerial fire suppression from the Quick Reaction Force, made up of the world's largest fire suppression helicopters with unique night fire fighting capabilities. And it's focused on furthering technological advancements to find new ways to mitigate wildfire risk. SCE is continuously developing new approaches and collaborating with other utilities, with academia and with the energy sector to make our communities safer. Speaker 200:06:29The WMP highlights technologies such as the Rapid Earth Current Limiter, early false detection and using artificial intelligence that will continue to advance our suite of wildfire mitigation measures. Going back to the long term view, A key driver for SCE's investment in the grid and for enabling customer affordability is transportation electrification. We aren't just talking here about regulatory policies or long term forecasts. We are seeing customers really start to embrace and adopt EVs today, including operators of medium and heavy duty vehicle fleets. SCE was an early mover and today has the country's largest suite of transportation electrification programs Speaker 300:07:16led by Speaker 200:07:17an investor owned utility with over $800,000,000 in approved funding for its charge ready programs, which include a program aimed at the medium and heavy duty segment. Momentum and customer interest have certainly increased and we are beginning to see vehicle availability improvements in the heavy duty segment with more options available to order. SCE is currently working with nearly 200 sites to potentially support approximately 4,000 medium and heavy duty vehicles. Customers operating heavy duty vehicles are requesting higher power chargers, resulting in larger load requests that may require additional distribution system upgrades to ensure adequate capacity is available. SCE continues to engage with these customers to understand when and where these vehicles will materialize to ensure the grid is ready. Speaker 200:08:14Beyond transportation electrification, building electrification is another critical opportunity to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. SCE has proposed a $677,000,000 program to help catalyze the adoption of electric heat pumps And that is currently being reviewed by the CPUC. I will conclude by noting that even as SCE makes substantial investment in the grid to keep the utility and the state on track for decarbonization and electrification efforts. Affordability is always top of mind. SCE's long standing culture of actively pursuing and maintaining productivity improvement and cost control measures has enabled it to have the lowest system average rate among California investor owned utilities. Speaker 200:09:03Some recent examples include the pending settlement agreement with Churn and Cal Advocates to move to a customer funded wildfire self insurance model and FCE's operational excellence program, which includes over 600 employee driven ideas with capital efficiency and O and M benefits. These include work planning, procurement and technology as shown on Page 4. Beyond these, We will constantly pursue new opportunities for digitization, automation and generative artificial intelligence to drive further improvements in customer interactions, asset data quality and back office efficiencies. The expected benefits should progressively increase as we accelerate implementation to 2024 and beyond, further benefiting affordability for SCE's customers. With that, Maria will provide her financial report. Speaker 400:10:01Thanks, Pedro, and good afternoon, everyone. In my comments today, I will discuss 1st quarter results, our 2023 EPS guidance, our 2023 financing plan and other financial topics. Starting with the Q1 of 2023, EIX reported core EPS of $1.09 As you can see from the year over year quarterly variance analysis shown on Page 5, SCE's Q1 earnings increased primarily due to GRC attrition year escalation. This was partially offset by higher net interest expense, driven by higher interest rates associated with funding 2017 2018 wildfire claims payments. At EIX Parent and Other, there was a negative variance of $0.04 due to higher holding company interest expense. Speaker 400:10:49I would now like to discuss SCE's capital and rate base forecast shown on Pages 6 and 7. These are consistent with last quarter's disclosures. SDE will file its 2025 GRC application in mid May, and we will update our capital and rate base projections and extend them through 2028 at that time. Over the coming years, SCE will continue to invest in wildfire mitigation and increase its grid work to meet the needs of its customers, while also supporting California's leading role in building a carbon free economy. You can see this increased investment begin in our projections for 2025 capital spending, which is just under $7,000,000,000 As a point of reference, only 6 years ago, our annual CapEx was less than $4,000,000,000 Let me provide a brief update on the 2017 2018 wildfire and mudslide events. Speaker 400:11:46As outlined on Page 8, In the Q1, SCE resolved about $148,000,000 in individual plaintiff claims. This continued progress settling claims enables us to move further along in resolving these historical events. Naturally, as we proceed toward full resolution, we continue to gain more and more information. Each quarter, we take our cumulative experience into account as we refine the best estimate. Consequently, SCE adjusted the best estimate upward by $90,000,000 More importantly, with this progress, the utility remains confident that it will file the TKM cost recovery application in the Q3 of this year. Speaker 400:12:31Our message is very clear. SCE will seek full CPUC cost recovery, excluding amounts that were gone under the agreement with the Safety Enforcement Division or already recovered. SCE will show its strong compelling case that it operated its system prudently and that it is in the public interest to authorize full cost recovery. Turning to guidance, Page 9 shows our 2023 EPS guidance and the key assumptions for modeling purposes. We are pleased with our to the year and are confident in affirming our 2023 core EPS guidance of $4.55 to $4.85 Progress related to the parent company's 2023 financing plan is shown on Page 10. Speaker 400:13:16In March, we issued $500,000,000 of junior subordinated notes, which provided $250,000,000 of equity content. The transaction was in line with our expectations, and we were pleased to see strong investor support for this offering, which was significantly oversubscribed. We expect to generate Approximately $100,000,000 of equity through internal programs, consistent with the $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 of equity content in our financing plan. To add another highlight on the financing front, just last week, SCE closed on its securitization financing for the final portion of the 1.6 $1,000,000,000 in AB1054 capital expenditures. SCE saw very robust investor engagement with a $775,000,000 offering. Speaker 400:14:03This resulted in a cost effective transaction for SCE's customers and allow the utility to repay an outstanding term loan further improving its credit profile. Please turn to Page 11. In addition to growing investor support, we are seeing our strengthening business and credit profile reflected in the rating agencies' outlook. In February, Moody's upgraded EIX and SCE's credit ratings by 1 notch, reflecting the decline in wildfire risk facing SCE. Additionally, last week, Fitch upgraded EIX and SCE's credit ratings by 1 notch. Speaker 400:14:37Noting the meaningful decline in major wildfires linked to SCE's equipment post 2018. Despite elevated wildfire activity in California in 2020 2021 and ongoing efforts to enhance system resilience, while mitigating reliance on and frequency of public safety power shutoffs. Page 12 provides an update on the CPUC cost of capital mechanism. If the 12 month average of the Moody's Baa Utility Bond Index exceeds 5.37 percent at the end of September, SDE will file a Tier 2 advice letter to implement the adjustment to the 2024 ROE. The adjustment would be equal to half the difference between the average and 4.37%. Speaker 400:15:23The mechanism also updates the authorized Costs of debt and preferred equity. Through April 25, the measurement period average is around 5.7%. We will continue monitoring the cost of capital mechanism, which could result in significant upside to 2024 earnings should it trigger. Looking ahead, we are reiterating our 5% to 7% EPS growth rate guidance from 2021 through 2025, which translates to 20.25 EPS of $5.50 to 5.90 We will provide an update on our EPS growth rate projections through 2028 on our Q2 earnings call. With strong rate base growth as the underlying driver, coupled with the significant investment needed in our electric grid, we continue to be optimistic about the company's growth prospects, both near and long term. Speaker 400:16:22That concludes my remarks. Sam? Speaker 100:16:24Ted, please open the call for questions. As a reminder, we request you to limit yourself to one question and one follow-up, so everyone in line has the opportunity to ask questions. Operator00:16:36The phone line is now open for questions. The first question is from Angie Storozynski with Seaport. Your line is now open. Speaker 400:16:49Hi, Angie. Thank you. Speaker 500:16:51How are you? Okay. So my first question, so I'm just looking at the settlements of the 2017 2018 claims. So you didn't settle anything more since basically the Q4 update? Speaker 400:17:10No. Angie, this is Maria. We actually settled about $148,000,000 in additional claims during the quarter. So we have been settling more claims. We report on the amount settled in each quarter. Speaker 400:17:22So last quarter the pace of the demand did slow down some, But it's we're still very well positioned and we will be filing our 1st cost recovery application in Q3 for the TKM event. Speaker 500:17:36Okay. Okay. That's fine. And then for the SEC DRC application that you'll file in May, Do you plan to assume positive load growth in your filing? Speaker 200:17:54So we will be filing that in another week and a half or so. I think we reported in the last quarter that we're seeing Load growth picking up and there are assumptions built into the rate case. You'll see those when we file it, but there are assumptions built into the rate case On load growth, Steve Powell, do you want to add anything there? Speaker 600:18:14I guess as we not around load growth. You can expect to In the rate case, focus on all the things we need to do on the grid, both to deal with customer demand right now as well as the low growth we may see from electrification and other things. And so That will be a focus on reliability, including looking at infrastructure replacement, that has been ramped down over the last number of years, while we've dealt with a lot more wildfire mitigation. So you'll see more wildfire mitigation activities in there, both continuation of our cover conductor program as well as a move towards some Targeted undergrounding, continued adaptation investments and of course, dealing with what we project to be load growth, that between now and 2,035 It's going to be about 2% a year on average. So that will drive investments in the grid and of course with all of it, It's making sure we're thinking about it from an affordability perspective, balancing the needed investments in the grid with the customers' needs for affordability. Speaker 500:19:12Okay. And my last question for Maria. So given all of the credit upgrades And reduction in wildfire mitigation wildfire risk. Have you seen and again, I could probably see myself, but have you seen a meaningful reduction in your credit spreads. I'm just wondering if everybody else in the industry is actually seeing a growth In their cost of debt, are you guys actually seeing some reversal of the risk premium that is positioning you Better versus peers in the industry? Speaker 400:19:50Sure. Angie, I think we've For a long time, we've had the reverse, right, where there's been a big gap between us and where others in the industry are. We share that with the commission as well. We are seeing some improvement. I think there's still room for improvement and it's one of the things that we're very focused on over time. Speaker 400:20:07But we have seen some benefits from some of these Recent upgrades. Speaker 500:20:13Okay. That's great. Thank you. Bye. Speaker 200:20:15Thank you, Angie. Operator00:20:18The next question is from Shahriar Pourreza with Guggenheim Partners. Your line is now open. Speaker 200:20:24Hey, guys. Good afternoon, Shar. Speaker 700:20:27Good afternoon. Pedro, you mentioned the CAISO transmission plan and Sort of that associated CapEx opportunities in your prepared remarks. Just to clarify, those have not been assumed in your current 5% to 7 And maybe just tying into the CAISO, AB-five thirty eight is proposing to kind of expand CAISO into Western RTO, does that put further tailwinds for transmission development there? Speaker 200:20:58Yes. So on the first part of the question, no, those are not part of our 21% to 25% EPS growth rate. And in fact, the chances are that those projects would be early in the development process by 2025, Since they're only now being identified by the CAL ISO. As you know one of the challenges Shar is that today transmission development can take a decade, largely because of the approval and permitting and signing processes. So we're also looking at the efforts at the federal level and state levels To expedite permitting and siding. Speaker 200:21:37So that's that on the transmission piece. On your question about Western Regional Market Expansion, we're monitoring the bill. We are actually very supportive of the concept of an expanded Cal ISO providing a platform to become a Western Regional market. Of course, the devil will be in the details and We want to make sure that expansion if and when it happens and then hopefully it will, but that it's done with all the right safeguards in place to make sure that the right benefits accrue both to California and other states' customers. And you asked whether that could have tailwinds. Speaker 200:22:17And I think of it as it's a larger market will provide greater opportunities to minimize the cost of the clean energy transition. It will allow better sharing of resources across the West. And so at its core, I think the main benefit of it would be to provide a platform to support greater affordability for both California customers and customers across the West. And we mentioned in remarks here, we are mindful of affordability, that we continue to focus a lot on. So anything like a Western Regional market that helps bring down the cost of the transition It's a good thing then in terms of creating more room in our rates to either minimize rates or to provide rate room for All the other projects that are important here. Speaker 200:23:09As to whether it wasn't regional market by me and more transmission projects ultimately for SCE, It's a little harder to tell and I think the main benefit is that cost reduction for customers. Speaker 700:23:21Got it. And then lastly, obviously you guys Just completed your financing plan, but there is somewhat of a cash pay convert market forming, several peers have tapped it, Some don't even need equity. Your embedded interest cost is over 6%, which is obviously materially higher than this market. Any kind of interest there in that and could that be sort of accretive to the current plan? Thanks. Speaker 400:23:46Yes. So Shar, it's Maria. So the Financing we've done to date has been consistent with what we said on our last call in terms of the total $1,400,000,000 And the junior subordinated notes were aimed At the equity content. Balance in the equity content, we're going to be addressing through our internal program. So that's one piece of it. Speaker 400:24:06In terms of the debt financing, so we have to do the balance for the balance of the year. We're going to look at all the different options. We want to be efficient. We want to consider all of the costs, The all in cost of doing that and take into consideration both the near term, but also the longer term potential costs associated with that. But we're going to keep everything on our radar. Speaker 200:24:24Perfect. That was it. Speaker 700:24:25Thank you guys so much. Speaker 200:24:28Thanks, Europe. Operator00:24:30The next question is from Ryan Levine with Citi. Your line is open. Speaker 800:24:35Hi, Ryan. Hi, everybody. Speaker 300:24:37A follow-up on some of the transmission comments or questions. In terms of the initial Q1 1,000 Transmission projects, when do you think the company is likely to pursue those from a timeline standpoint? Speaker 200:24:50Hey, Ryan, you're cutting up a little bit. Would you mind repeating the question? It might be a bad phone liner. Speaker 300:24:56In terms of the Q4 1,000 transmission lines, From a timeline standpoint, when do you think the company is looking to pursue those opportunities? Speaker 200:25:06Yes. So it really starts with what timeline the Cal ISO follows for the process of finalizing the transmission plan and then ultimately taking projects through that competitive process. I don't know that we have specific time available yet, but Steve, are you aware of anything more specific at this point? Speaker 600:25:26Yes, I think, so in the draft plan, there were 4 projects identified that would be eligible for competition. They still have to finalize and approve the draft plan. And then in terms of the bidding windows, I believe some of the bidding windows start as early as beginning into the summer and into the fall. So The project evaluation bidding is kind of later this year in terms of when bidders will be going in on those projects. Speaker 100:25:51Okay. And Speaker 300:25:51then the follow-up maybe for Maria, if those projects were to be 1, how do you look at the financing of the incremental capital, given that it's more or Speaker 400:26:02longer duration? Yes. So when SCE bids and wins, we'll finance that the way we would advance our normal Rate based investments, Ryan. So we'll do that in the normal course. I think that there will be a lot of opportunity for us To be able to finance all of it. Speaker 300:26:19All right. Thank you. Speaker 200:26:21Thanks, Ryan. Operator00:26:24The next question is from Greg Orrill with UBS. Your line is open. Speaker 200:26:28Hi, Greg. Speaker 900:26:29Yes, hi. Thank you. Maybe just a quick one on the pending heat pumps investment and just wondering What you would expect the duration of that program would be to spend the money, the 6 $77,000,000 Speaker 200:26:53That was our proposal for that was a 5 year program. And it can just I think it's either 4 or 5 year 4 year program. And just to remind you, We proposed in there around the deployment of a quarter 1000000 heat pumps. We also proposed to take about a third of the customers with in getting heat pumps and upgrading their homes for broader electrification to make them electrification ready. Around 90% of the program is targeted towards residential customers and a good portion of that is targeting low income and disadvantaged communities. Speaker 200:27:31It is still going to the PUC process. And so think about 4 years or So deployment timeline after PSC approval. Speaker 900:27:43Thank you very much. Speaker 200:27:45Thanks. Operator00:27:47The next question is from Julien Dumoulin Smith with Bank of America. Your line is open. Speaker 200:27:52Good afternoon, Julien. Speaker 300:27:53Good afternoon, Julien. Good afternoon, team. Speaker 800:27:54Hey, thank you guys very much. Appreciate it. Hey, look, I wanted to come back to the commentary about the update forthcoming. When you maybe, obviously mid May, we've got this rate base update coming. It seemed like in the prepared remarks you were alluding to a potential extension of the earnings outlook with the Q2 call. Speaker 800:28:12Can you affirm that just think of provide us some context So the parameters that you're thinking there in like base year, etcetera, but more specifically also how you think about maybe the EPS trajectory relative to The rate base that you'll release here with mid May? Speaker 400:28:27Those are all great questions, Julie. And let me take them from a timing perspective first. So When we file the rate case in mid May, we will provide an update at that point relative to capital spend and rate base And that will be through 2028. So that's consistent with the timeline of the general rate case itself. On the Q2 call, We will then add to that our EPS projections through 2028. Speaker 400:28:54So your other questions are really Excellent, but we'll bring all of that into play on the Q2 call. So stay tuned. Speaker 800:29:01Got it. Okay, understood. And base year will be rolled forward by a couple of years? Speaker 400:29:06So we'll go into all that detail when we get to the Q2 call. Speaker 800:29:11Got it. All right. Excellent. Well, we will leave it there. Thank you, guys. Speaker 800:29:14Appreciate it. Speaker 400:29:15Thanks, Julian. Thanks, Julian. Operator00:29:18And that was the last question. I will now turn the call back over to Mr. Sam Ramraj. Speaker 100:29:24Well, thank you for joining us. This concludes the conference call. 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There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:01Good afternoon, and welcome to the Edison International First Quarter 2023 Financial Teleconference. My name is Ted, and I will be your operator today. Today's call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Sam Ramraj, Vice President of Investor Relations. Operator00:00:20Mr. Ramraj, you may begin your conference. Speaker 100:00:23Thank you, Ted, and welcome, everyone. Our speakers today are President and Chief Executive Officer, Pedro Pizarro and Executive Vice President and Chief Also on the call are other members of the management team. Materials supporting today's call are available at www.edisoninvestor.com. These include a investor.com. These include a Form 10 Q, prepared remarks from Pedro and Maria and the teleconference presentation. Speaker 100:00:50Tomorrow, we will distribute our regular business update presentation. During this call, we'll make forward looking statements about the outlook for For Edison International and its subsidiaries, actual results could differ materially from current expectations. Important factors that could cause different results are set forth and our SEC filings, please read these carefully. The presentation includes certain outlook assumptions as well as reconciliation of non GAAP measures I will now turn the call over to Pedro. Speaker 200:01:27Thanks a lot Sam and good afternoon everybody. Edison International's core EPS for Q1 2023 was $1.09 We are pleased with our starts to the year and we are confident in affirming our 2023 core EPS guidance of $4.55 to $4.85 We also remain confident delivering our long term EPS growth target of 5% to 7% from 2021 to 2025. Maria will discuss our financial performance and outlook. My key message today is that we continue to see a number of positives in the near term and in the long term, and these make us excited for our company's future. SCE's actions to sustain and strengthen the electric grid, mitigate wildfires and enabled decarbonization through electrification are critically needed by California and are increasing our investment opportunity. Speaker 200:02:25In the longer term, our Pathway 2,045 analysis highlights the continued investment in transmission and distribution needed to evolve the grid. This is being recognized by regulators in California. In 2021, California ISO released a 20 year plan estimating about $30,000,000,000 of transmission investment needed to 2,040 consistent with our pathway analysis. Only a few weeks ago, Cal ISO published its draft 2022 to 2023 transmission plan with its current thinking on system needs over the next 10 years. The aircraft plan calls for 46 transmission projects with a total estimated cost of $9,300,000,000 Over $2,000,000,000 of that represents proposed incumbent projects for SCE and over $5,000,000,000 represents FERC Quarter 1,000 competitive projects within Southern California for which SCE will be able to compete. Speaker 200:03:29In the near term, SCE continues its diligent execution of its wildfire mitigation plan and has reduced the probability of losses from catastrophic wildfires by 75% to 80% compared to pre-twenty 18 levels, predominantly from grid hardening measures that allow the utility to mitigate risk while keeping electricity flowing to our customers. I want to say thanks again to the many of you who visited us in person at our headquarters and heard directly from several of our leaders upon the utility's achievements and ongoing actions. In March, SCE filed its 2023 to 2025 WMP with the Office of Energy Infrastructure Safety. Highlights of the plan are shown on Page 3. Our number one priority remains the safety of Public, customers, workers and first responders. Speaker 200:04:24In 2023, the utility is building on the work already accomplished, while focusing on 5 key areas. These are continuing to harden the grid, ramping up targeted undergrounding work in severe risk areas, continuing to reduce PSPS impacts, expanding aerial fire suppression funding to year round and furthering technological advancements. SCE's flagship grid hardening program, Covert Conductor, remains its key mitigation measure. More than 2,850 additional miles of covered conductor will be installed between 2023 2025. By the end of 2025, SCE expects to have replaced more than 7,200 miles or about 3 quarters of overhead distribution power lines in high fire risk areas with covered conductor. Speaker 200:05:19SCE also plans to complete about 100 miles of undergrounding by 2025 to address the high risk presented by unique factors in certain areas and plans to underground a total of 600 miles by the end of 2028. Additionally, to quickly suppress fires Regardless of how they start and protect the communities SCE serves, the utility continues to partner with the LA County Fire Department, Orange County Fire Authority and Ventura County Fire Department to expand their firefighting capabilities. As highlighted in the WMP, This support has been expanded to year round aerial fire suppression from the Quick Reaction Force, made up of the world's largest fire suppression helicopters with unique night fire fighting capabilities. And it's focused on furthering technological advancements to find new ways to mitigate wildfire risk. SCE is continuously developing new approaches and collaborating with other utilities, with academia and with the energy sector to make our communities safer. Speaker 200:06:29The WMP highlights technologies such as the Rapid Earth Current Limiter, early false detection and using artificial intelligence that will continue to advance our suite of wildfire mitigation measures. Going back to the long term view, A key driver for SCE's investment in the grid and for enabling customer affordability is transportation electrification. We aren't just talking here about regulatory policies or long term forecasts. We are seeing customers really start to embrace and adopt EVs today, including operators of medium and heavy duty vehicle fleets. SCE was an early mover and today has the country's largest suite of transportation electrification programs Speaker 300:07:16led by Speaker 200:07:17an investor owned utility with over $800,000,000 in approved funding for its charge ready programs, which include a program aimed at the medium and heavy duty segment. Momentum and customer interest have certainly increased and we are beginning to see vehicle availability improvements in the heavy duty segment with more options available to order. SCE is currently working with nearly 200 sites to potentially support approximately 4,000 medium and heavy duty vehicles. Customers operating heavy duty vehicles are requesting higher power chargers, resulting in larger load requests that may require additional distribution system upgrades to ensure adequate capacity is available. SCE continues to engage with these customers to understand when and where these vehicles will materialize to ensure the grid is ready. Speaker 200:08:14Beyond transportation electrification, building electrification is another critical opportunity to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. SCE has proposed a $677,000,000 program to help catalyze the adoption of electric heat pumps And that is currently being reviewed by the CPUC. I will conclude by noting that even as SCE makes substantial investment in the grid to keep the utility and the state on track for decarbonization and electrification efforts. Affordability is always top of mind. SCE's long standing culture of actively pursuing and maintaining productivity improvement and cost control measures has enabled it to have the lowest system average rate among California investor owned utilities. Speaker 200:09:03Some recent examples include the pending settlement agreement with Churn and Cal Advocates to move to a customer funded wildfire self insurance model and FCE's operational excellence program, which includes over 600 employee driven ideas with capital efficiency and O and M benefits. These include work planning, procurement and technology as shown on Page 4. Beyond these, We will constantly pursue new opportunities for digitization, automation and generative artificial intelligence to drive further improvements in customer interactions, asset data quality and back office efficiencies. The expected benefits should progressively increase as we accelerate implementation to 2024 and beyond, further benefiting affordability for SCE's customers. With that, Maria will provide her financial report. Speaker 400:10:01Thanks, Pedro, and good afternoon, everyone. In my comments today, I will discuss 1st quarter results, our 2023 EPS guidance, our 2023 financing plan and other financial topics. Starting with the Q1 of 2023, EIX reported core EPS of $1.09 As you can see from the year over year quarterly variance analysis shown on Page 5, SCE's Q1 earnings increased primarily due to GRC attrition year escalation. This was partially offset by higher net interest expense, driven by higher interest rates associated with funding 2017 2018 wildfire claims payments. At EIX Parent and Other, there was a negative variance of $0.04 due to higher holding company interest expense. Speaker 400:10:49I would now like to discuss SCE's capital and rate base forecast shown on Pages 6 and 7. These are consistent with last quarter's disclosures. SDE will file its 2025 GRC application in mid May, and we will update our capital and rate base projections and extend them through 2028 at that time. Over the coming years, SCE will continue to invest in wildfire mitigation and increase its grid work to meet the needs of its customers, while also supporting California's leading role in building a carbon free economy. You can see this increased investment begin in our projections for 2025 capital spending, which is just under $7,000,000,000 As a point of reference, only 6 years ago, our annual CapEx was less than $4,000,000,000 Let me provide a brief update on the 2017 2018 wildfire and mudslide events. Speaker 400:11:46As outlined on Page 8, In the Q1, SCE resolved about $148,000,000 in individual plaintiff claims. This continued progress settling claims enables us to move further along in resolving these historical events. Naturally, as we proceed toward full resolution, we continue to gain more and more information. Each quarter, we take our cumulative experience into account as we refine the best estimate. Consequently, SCE adjusted the best estimate upward by $90,000,000 More importantly, with this progress, the utility remains confident that it will file the TKM cost recovery application in the Q3 of this year. Speaker 400:12:31Our message is very clear. SCE will seek full CPUC cost recovery, excluding amounts that were gone under the agreement with the Safety Enforcement Division or already recovered. SCE will show its strong compelling case that it operated its system prudently and that it is in the public interest to authorize full cost recovery. Turning to guidance, Page 9 shows our 2023 EPS guidance and the key assumptions for modeling purposes. We are pleased with our to the year and are confident in affirming our 2023 core EPS guidance of $4.55 to $4.85 Progress related to the parent company's 2023 financing plan is shown on Page 10. Speaker 400:13:16In March, we issued $500,000,000 of junior subordinated notes, which provided $250,000,000 of equity content. The transaction was in line with our expectations, and we were pleased to see strong investor support for this offering, which was significantly oversubscribed. We expect to generate Approximately $100,000,000 of equity through internal programs, consistent with the $300,000,000 to $400,000,000 of equity content in our financing plan. To add another highlight on the financing front, just last week, SCE closed on its securitization financing for the final portion of the 1.6 $1,000,000,000 in AB1054 capital expenditures. SCE saw very robust investor engagement with a $775,000,000 offering. Speaker 400:14:03This resulted in a cost effective transaction for SCE's customers and allow the utility to repay an outstanding term loan further improving its credit profile. Please turn to Page 11. In addition to growing investor support, we are seeing our strengthening business and credit profile reflected in the rating agencies' outlook. In February, Moody's upgraded EIX and SCE's credit ratings by 1 notch, reflecting the decline in wildfire risk facing SCE. Additionally, last week, Fitch upgraded EIX and SCE's credit ratings by 1 notch. Speaker 400:14:37Noting the meaningful decline in major wildfires linked to SCE's equipment post 2018. Despite elevated wildfire activity in California in 2020 2021 and ongoing efforts to enhance system resilience, while mitigating reliance on and frequency of public safety power shutoffs. Page 12 provides an update on the CPUC cost of capital mechanism. If the 12 month average of the Moody's Baa Utility Bond Index exceeds 5.37 percent at the end of September, SDE will file a Tier 2 advice letter to implement the adjustment to the 2024 ROE. The adjustment would be equal to half the difference between the average and 4.37%. Speaker 400:15:23The mechanism also updates the authorized Costs of debt and preferred equity. Through April 25, the measurement period average is around 5.7%. We will continue monitoring the cost of capital mechanism, which could result in significant upside to 2024 earnings should it trigger. Looking ahead, we are reiterating our 5% to 7% EPS growth rate guidance from 2021 through 2025, which translates to 20.25 EPS of $5.50 to 5.90 We will provide an update on our EPS growth rate projections through 2028 on our Q2 earnings call. With strong rate base growth as the underlying driver, coupled with the significant investment needed in our electric grid, we continue to be optimistic about the company's growth prospects, both near and long term. Speaker 400:16:22That concludes my remarks. Sam? Speaker 100:16:24Ted, please open the call for questions. As a reminder, we request you to limit yourself to one question and one follow-up, so everyone in line has the opportunity to ask questions. Operator00:16:36The phone line is now open for questions. The first question is from Angie Storozynski with Seaport. Your line is now open. Speaker 400:16:49Hi, Angie. Thank you. Speaker 500:16:51How are you? Okay. So my first question, so I'm just looking at the settlements of the 2017 2018 claims. So you didn't settle anything more since basically the Q4 update? Speaker 400:17:10No. Angie, this is Maria. We actually settled about $148,000,000 in additional claims during the quarter. So we have been settling more claims. We report on the amount settled in each quarter. Speaker 400:17:22So last quarter the pace of the demand did slow down some, But it's we're still very well positioned and we will be filing our 1st cost recovery application in Q3 for the TKM event. Speaker 500:17:36Okay. Okay. That's fine. And then for the SEC DRC application that you'll file in May, Do you plan to assume positive load growth in your filing? Speaker 200:17:54So we will be filing that in another week and a half or so. I think we reported in the last quarter that we're seeing Load growth picking up and there are assumptions built into the rate case. You'll see those when we file it, but there are assumptions built into the rate case On load growth, Steve Powell, do you want to add anything there? Speaker 600:18:14I guess as we not around load growth. You can expect to In the rate case, focus on all the things we need to do on the grid, both to deal with customer demand right now as well as the low growth we may see from electrification and other things. And so That will be a focus on reliability, including looking at infrastructure replacement, that has been ramped down over the last number of years, while we've dealt with a lot more wildfire mitigation. So you'll see more wildfire mitigation activities in there, both continuation of our cover conductor program as well as a move towards some Targeted undergrounding, continued adaptation investments and of course, dealing with what we project to be load growth, that between now and 2,035 It's going to be about 2% a year on average. So that will drive investments in the grid and of course with all of it, It's making sure we're thinking about it from an affordability perspective, balancing the needed investments in the grid with the customers' needs for affordability. Speaker 500:19:12Okay. And my last question for Maria. So given all of the credit upgrades And reduction in wildfire mitigation wildfire risk. Have you seen and again, I could probably see myself, but have you seen a meaningful reduction in your credit spreads. I'm just wondering if everybody else in the industry is actually seeing a growth In their cost of debt, are you guys actually seeing some reversal of the risk premium that is positioning you Better versus peers in the industry? Speaker 400:19:50Sure. Angie, I think we've For a long time, we've had the reverse, right, where there's been a big gap between us and where others in the industry are. We share that with the commission as well. We are seeing some improvement. I think there's still room for improvement and it's one of the things that we're very focused on over time. Speaker 400:20:07But we have seen some benefits from some of these Recent upgrades. Speaker 500:20:13Okay. That's great. Thank you. Bye. Speaker 200:20:15Thank you, Angie. Operator00:20:18The next question is from Shahriar Pourreza with Guggenheim Partners. Your line is now open. Speaker 200:20:24Hey, guys. Good afternoon, Shar. Speaker 700:20:27Good afternoon. Pedro, you mentioned the CAISO transmission plan and Sort of that associated CapEx opportunities in your prepared remarks. Just to clarify, those have not been assumed in your current 5% to 7 And maybe just tying into the CAISO, AB-five thirty eight is proposing to kind of expand CAISO into Western RTO, does that put further tailwinds for transmission development there? Speaker 200:20:58Yes. So on the first part of the question, no, those are not part of our 21% to 25% EPS growth rate. And in fact, the chances are that those projects would be early in the development process by 2025, Since they're only now being identified by the CAL ISO. As you know one of the challenges Shar is that today transmission development can take a decade, largely because of the approval and permitting and signing processes. So we're also looking at the efforts at the federal level and state levels To expedite permitting and siding. Speaker 200:21:37So that's that on the transmission piece. On your question about Western Regional Market Expansion, we're monitoring the bill. We are actually very supportive of the concept of an expanded Cal ISO providing a platform to become a Western Regional market. Of course, the devil will be in the details and We want to make sure that expansion if and when it happens and then hopefully it will, but that it's done with all the right safeguards in place to make sure that the right benefits accrue both to California and other states' customers. And you asked whether that could have tailwinds. Speaker 200:22:17And I think of it as it's a larger market will provide greater opportunities to minimize the cost of the clean energy transition. It will allow better sharing of resources across the West. And so at its core, I think the main benefit of it would be to provide a platform to support greater affordability for both California customers and customers across the West. And we mentioned in remarks here, we are mindful of affordability, that we continue to focus a lot on. So anything like a Western Regional market that helps bring down the cost of the transition It's a good thing then in terms of creating more room in our rates to either minimize rates or to provide rate room for All the other projects that are important here. Speaker 200:23:09As to whether it wasn't regional market by me and more transmission projects ultimately for SCE, It's a little harder to tell and I think the main benefit is that cost reduction for customers. Speaker 700:23:21Got it. And then lastly, obviously you guys Just completed your financing plan, but there is somewhat of a cash pay convert market forming, several peers have tapped it, Some don't even need equity. Your embedded interest cost is over 6%, which is obviously materially higher than this market. Any kind of interest there in that and could that be sort of accretive to the current plan? Thanks. Speaker 400:23:46Yes. So Shar, it's Maria. So the Financing we've done to date has been consistent with what we said on our last call in terms of the total $1,400,000,000 And the junior subordinated notes were aimed At the equity content. Balance in the equity content, we're going to be addressing through our internal program. So that's one piece of it. Speaker 400:24:06In terms of the debt financing, so we have to do the balance for the balance of the year. We're going to look at all the different options. We want to be efficient. We want to consider all of the costs, The all in cost of doing that and take into consideration both the near term, but also the longer term potential costs associated with that. But we're going to keep everything on our radar. Speaker 200:24:24Perfect. That was it. Speaker 700:24:25Thank you guys so much. Speaker 200:24:28Thanks, Europe. Operator00:24:30The next question is from Ryan Levine with Citi. Your line is open. Speaker 800:24:35Hi, Ryan. Hi, everybody. Speaker 300:24:37A follow-up on some of the transmission comments or questions. In terms of the initial Q1 1,000 Transmission projects, when do you think the company is likely to pursue those from a timeline standpoint? Speaker 200:24:50Hey, Ryan, you're cutting up a little bit. Would you mind repeating the question? It might be a bad phone liner. Speaker 300:24:56In terms of the Q4 1,000 transmission lines, From a timeline standpoint, when do you think the company is looking to pursue those opportunities? Speaker 200:25:06Yes. So it really starts with what timeline the Cal ISO follows for the process of finalizing the transmission plan and then ultimately taking projects through that competitive process. I don't know that we have specific time available yet, but Steve, are you aware of anything more specific at this point? Speaker 600:25:26Yes, I think, so in the draft plan, there were 4 projects identified that would be eligible for competition. They still have to finalize and approve the draft plan. And then in terms of the bidding windows, I believe some of the bidding windows start as early as beginning into the summer and into the fall. So The project evaluation bidding is kind of later this year in terms of when bidders will be going in on those projects. Speaker 100:25:51Okay. And Speaker 300:25:51then the follow-up maybe for Maria, if those projects were to be 1, how do you look at the financing of the incremental capital, given that it's more or Speaker 400:26:02longer duration? Yes. So when SCE bids and wins, we'll finance that the way we would advance our normal Rate based investments, Ryan. So we'll do that in the normal course. I think that there will be a lot of opportunity for us To be able to finance all of it. Speaker 300:26:19All right. Thank you. Speaker 200:26:21Thanks, Ryan. Operator00:26:24The next question is from Greg Orrill with UBS. Your line is open. Speaker 200:26:28Hi, Greg. Speaker 900:26:29Yes, hi. Thank you. Maybe just a quick one on the pending heat pumps investment and just wondering What you would expect the duration of that program would be to spend the money, the 6 $77,000,000 Speaker 200:26:53That was our proposal for that was a 5 year program. And it can just I think it's either 4 or 5 year 4 year program. And just to remind you, We proposed in there around the deployment of a quarter 1000000 heat pumps. We also proposed to take about a third of the customers with in getting heat pumps and upgrading their homes for broader electrification to make them electrification ready. Around 90% of the program is targeted towards residential customers and a good portion of that is targeting low income and disadvantaged communities. Speaker 200:27:31It is still going to the PUC process. And so think about 4 years or So deployment timeline after PSC approval. Speaker 900:27:43Thank you very much. Speaker 200:27:45Thanks. Operator00:27:47The next question is from Julien Dumoulin Smith with Bank of America. Your line is open. Speaker 200:27:52Good afternoon, Julien. Speaker 300:27:53Good afternoon, Julien. Good afternoon, team. Speaker 800:27:54Hey, thank you guys very much. Appreciate it. Hey, look, I wanted to come back to the commentary about the update forthcoming. When you maybe, obviously mid May, we've got this rate base update coming. It seemed like in the prepared remarks you were alluding to a potential extension of the earnings outlook with the Q2 call. Speaker 800:28:12Can you affirm that just think of provide us some context So the parameters that you're thinking there in like base year, etcetera, but more specifically also how you think about maybe the EPS trajectory relative to The rate base that you'll release here with mid May? Speaker 400:28:27Those are all great questions, Julie. And let me take them from a timing perspective first. So When we file the rate case in mid May, we will provide an update at that point relative to capital spend and rate base And that will be through 2028. So that's consistent with the timeline of the general rate case itself. On the Q2 call, We will then add to that our EPS projections through 2028. Speaker 400:28:54So your other questions are really Excellent, but we'll bring all of that into play on the Q2 call. So stay tuned. Speaker 800:29:01Got it. Okay, understood. And base year will be rolled forward by a couple of years? Speaker 400:29:06So we'll go into all that detail when we get to the Q2 call. Speaker 800:29:11Got it. All right. Excellent. Well, we will leave it there. Thank you, guys. Speaker 800:29:14Appreciate it. Speaker 400:29:15Thanks, Julian. Thanks, Julian. Operator00:29:18And that was the last question. I will now turn the call back over to Mr. Sam Ramraj. Speaker 100:29:24Well, thank you for joining us. This concludes the conference call. Have a good rest of the day and stay safe everyone. You may now disconnect. Operator00:29:32Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect at this time.Read morePowered by