NASDAQ:NSIT Insight Enterprises Q1 2023 Earnings Report $133.29 -2.67 (-1.96%) Closing price 04/15/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$133.19 -0.10 (-0.08%) As of 04/15/2025 06:38 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Insight Enterprises EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.78Consensus EPS $1.84Beat/MissMissed by -$0.06One Year Ago EPS$1.81Insight Enterprises Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$2.32 billionExpected Revenue$2.57 billionBeat/MissMissed by -$241.53 millionYoY Revenue Growth-12.30%Insight Enterprises Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2023Date5/2/2023TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateTuesday, May 2, 2023Conference Call Time9:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsInsight Enterprises' Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 1, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 9:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Insight Enterprises Q1 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 2, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Hello, and Speaker 100:00:01a warm welcome to the Insight Enterprises Corporation's First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Candice, and I'll be coordinating your call for today. All lines have been placed on mute during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for question and answer at the end. I would now like to hand The conference over to our host, James Maldonado. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:00:32Welcome, everyone, and thank you for joining the Insight Enterprises Earnings Conference Call. Today, we will be discussing the company's operating results for the quarter ended March 31, 2023. I'm James Mercado, Senior Vice President of Finance and CFO of Insight North America. Joining me is Joyce Mullen, President Chief Executive Officer and Glenys Bryan, Chief Financial Officer. If you do not have a copy of the earnings release or the accompanying slide presentation that was posted this morning and filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on Form 8 ks, you will find it on our website at insight.com under the Investor Relations section. Speaker 200:01:09Today's call, including the question and answer period, is being webcast live and can also be accessed via the Investor Relations page of our website at insight.com. An archived copy of the conference call will be available approximately 2 hours after completion of the call and will remain on our website for a limited time. This conference call and the associated webcast contain time sensitive information that is accurate only as of today, May 2, 2023. This call is the property of Insight Enterprises. Any redistribution, retransmission or rebroadcast of this call in any form without the expressed written consent of Insight Enterprises is strictly prohibited. Speaker 200:01:48In today's conference call, we will be referring to non GAAP financial measures as we discuss the Q1 2023 financial results. When discussing non GAAP measures, we will refer to them as adjusted. You'll find a reconciliation of these adjusted measures to our actual GAAP results included in both the press release and the accompanying slide presentation issued earlier today. Also, please note that unless highlighted as constant currency, all amounts and growth rates discussed are in U. S. Speaker 200:02:15Dollar terms. As a reminder, all forward looking statements that are made during this conference call are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially. These risks are discussed in today's Press release and in greater detail in our most recently filed periodic reports and subsequent filings with the SEC. All forward looking statements are made as of the date of this call. And except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update any forward looking statement made on this call, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Speaker 200:02:49With that, I will now turn the call over to Joyce. And if you're following along with the slide presentation, We'll begin on slide 4. Joyce? Operator00:02:57Thank you very much, James. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I am pleased to report that we delivered adjusted diluted EPS in line with our internal expectations in a market that was even more volatile than we had anticipated. We also delivered strong gross margin, adjusted EBITDA margin and cash flow from operations. As a result, we are confirming our full year 20 Our performance in Q1 reflects a combination of very strong cloud growth as well as growth within our solutions portfolio, primarily digital transformation, Data, AI and cyber consistent with the higher growth areas of the market. Operator00:03:42Gross profit grew 3% over last year and we expanded gross margin to a Q1 record of 16.8 percent. We accomplished this despite a decline in net sales, primarily related to devices, partially offset by an increase in Infrastructure Solutions and 38% growth in cloud. As a reminder, gross is the best way to measure our performance due to the increase in the percentage of our revenue that is reported on a net basis. We also demonstrated additional leverage in our operating expenses and combined with our gross margin expansion, This led to adjusted EBITDA margin expanding to 4.3%. There is no doubt that the macroeconomic environment will continue to be challenging in 2023. Operator00:04:29In these uncertain times and in the world of accelerated change, Our clients need a partner with deep expertise they can trust to deliver innovative results fast. Although the IT market is normalizing after a few years of elevated growth, clients remain committed to digital transformation, Leveraging technology, including large language models to improve efficiency, reduce risk and deliver a better customer experience. As companies look to reduce costs as a result of the macroeconomic environment, the importance of tech enablement, automation and connectivity are greater than ever. These solutions require hardware, software and services. This is at the heart of our strategy to become the leading solutions integrator. Operator00:05:16As a reminder, there are 4 key pillars underpinning the strategy that we outlined last fall at our Investor Day. First, Captivate clients. This is a people and outcome focused business. We pride ourselves on earning the right to do more by delivering high quality and outcome based solutions. And our investments in e commerce and automation will allow our clients to transact with us more efficiently via self-service. Operator00:05:43This creates a seamless experience for our clients and frees up our sales teammates to focus on our second pillar, which is selling solutions. We are transforming our sales capabilities and aligning our incentives to focus on our solutions portfolio. We continue to streamline our account coverage to match skills with our clients' needs and propensity to buy services. The theme here is really about focus, That is doing a finite number of things and doing them really well. Our 3rd pillar is delivery differentiation. Operator00:06:15This is all about providing innovative scalable solutions through reusable IP, exceptional technical talent and our very compelling solutions portfolio. Again, we are focusing on our strengths that align with the fastest growing areas of the market in the areas where our clients need the most help cloud, data, AI, cyber and edge. And the 4th pillar is to champion our culture. This has been a strategic advantage for us and we will continue to leverage our values of hunger, heart and harmony to evolve our high performance culture. This is critical to attracting and retaining incredible talent. Operator00:06:55I'd like to share an example of applying our expertise and services to solve a significant business problem for one of our clients. Our client, a global logistics, e commerce and business services company partnered with us to modernize their time consuming talent acquisition process. They had high rates of applicant drop off, which led to increased costs due to attrition of the candidate pool. We re engineered their HR recruiting process. We integrated multiple technology applications to create a seamless interface and implemented AI to evaluate the progress of Candidates at various milestones to increase the effectiveness of recruiting over time. Operator00:07:35This led to a reduction of recruiting time by 20%, increased HR productivity by 30%, improved the candidate experience and retention and importantly increased the quality of the client's talent acquisition. Our client was able to increase productivity through technology and a more seamless process, allowing them to improve the return on investment and improved candidate experience. This project has led to additional engagements, including improving supply chain projects and modern workplace services as well as consulting on additional process improvement projects using AI and machine learning. Our drive to deliver meaningful outcome based solutions is not only recognized by our clients, but also the industry. We are honored to receive the 2023 America's Retail Partner of the Year Award from NVIDIA. Operator00:08:28As an elite partner, InSight collaborates to bring the best of deep learning solutions to clients. InSight consultants and engineers use NVIDIA expertise and resources to help clients gain a Competitive advantage by leveraging AI and data analytics to solve business problems. Also cybersecurity continues to be a top focus for companies navigating their digital transformation journey. Insight was recognized by Fortinet as the 2022 Growth Partner of the Year. And we are proud that Insight was named as one of the 2023 Achievers 50 Most Engaged Workplaces I am proud of the accomplishments of our team and the recognition we continue to receive. Operator00:09:17Equally important is that we perform and act in a responsible and ethical manner. We recently published our annual Corporate Citizenship Report. This report details Insight's positive influence on the world around us and our continued focus on Sustainability and Diversity and Inclusion. This report also highlights our teammates' contributions to our communities. The report focuses on 4 areas of impact: Building a more sustainable world that describes Incyte's work to reduce our own carbon footprint, our collaboration with partners And the work we do with clients in this area. Operator00:09:52Using technology for good, a look at the work we've done for clients that improves the lives of people around the world. Fostering a culture of diversity and inclusion, while also providing opportunities and driving creativity and innovation in the workplace that encourages Full participation by all teammates. And finally, Leading With Heart, which spotlights our support for teammates from an increased emphasis on mental well-being, Flexible work programs and our focus on improving the communities in which we operate. An example of the work that Incyte does to Promote a more sustainable world is a solution we developed for a large utility company in Australia. Our client had a proprietary wastewater network monitoring system that was expensive to maintain a required proprietary network infrastructure and hardware. Operator00:10:41Its aging infrastructure post security concerns have prevented our clients from implementing AI and advanced analytics. We built a wastewater monitoring platform on Azure IoT and created a solution to connect 30,000 devices for wastewater level monitoring. By leveraging our expertise to scale applications using low code development techniques, we moved from initial concepts to operations very quickly. In addition to saving our client 1,000,000 of dollars annually, we reduced our clients' cybersecurity risk by replacing their aging platform, reduced vendor lock in and gained access to real time data and improved data analytics. We also helped our client reduce energy consumption, Success with these projects led to a long term services contract to manage their platform. Operator00:11:39We remain focused on our ambition to become the leading solutions integrator and I look forward to discussing our progress as we continue our journey. With that, I'll turn the call over to Glynis to share the key details of our financial and operating performance in Q1 and our full year outlook. Glynis? Thank you, Joyce. As Joyce mentioned, our results for the quarter were in line with our expectations in a challenging macroeconomic environment and demonstrate the resiliency of our operating model. Operator00:12:07The slide presentation includes details on our Q1 performance for the 3 geographic regions and our consolidated results. I will focus on our consolidated results and the key highlights from our Q1 performance on this call. You will find the GAAP equivalents for our adjusted results and a reconciliation to the GAAP amounts in the investor presentation. In Q1, net revenue was $2,300,000,000 a decrease of 12% in U. S. Operator00:12:33Dollar terms and 11% in constant currency compared to the prior year. This decrease was driven by a significant decline in devices, partially offset by an increase in cloud, networking and infrastructure. The decline in devices is consistent with our previous comments indicating that we expected a significant decline during the first half of twenty twenty three compared to the first half of twenty twenty two when devices were up substantially. Despite the performance in devices, gross profit grew 3% year over year, primarily driven by cloud, which grew 38%. As a reminder, gross profit is the best way to measure our performance due to the increase in the percentage of our revenue that is reported on a net basis. Operator00:13:19InsightCore Services gross profit was $61,000,000 flat year to year. This performance reflects lower integration and other services related to the decline in devices, which was offset by growth in applications, data, digital enablement, networking and security. Gross margin was a Q1 record of 16.8%, an increase of 2 50 basis points, reflecting the higher mix of cloud, InsightCore Services and infrastructure products, which transact at higher margins relative to devices. In addition, our profitability and pricing initiatives also resulted in higher hardware and services gross margin. From a geo perspective, North America delivered a record 17.2% gross margin and drove our strong performance in gross profit. Operator00:14:11More details on North America and the other geos can be found in our presentation. Our gross profit performance combined with our operating expense leverage resulted in adjusted EBITDA margin of 4.3 percent, an increase of 60 basis points. For the Q1, Adjusted diluted earnings per share was $1.78 down 2% in U. S. Dollar terms and flat in constant currency year to year. Operator00:14:38This includes approximately $0.08 related to higher interest expense and lower outstanding debt in this quarter versus Q1 of 2022. In addition, the impact to adjusted diluted earnings per share from the warrants associated with our convertible notes accounted for $0.05 As a reminder, the guidance we provided in February included the impact of higher interest expense and partial dilution related to the warrants. As we previously discussed, with the slower growth in hardware in the Q1, we generated $160,000,000 in cash flow from operations in the Q1 compared to a use of $284,000,000 in Q1 of 2022. And to update you on our share repurchase program, in Q1, we repurchased 913,000 shares of our common stock for a total cost of $117,000,000 As of the end of April, we have approximately $100,000,000 remaining under our current $300,000,000 share repurchase authorization. We intend to continue repurchasing shares to offset the dilutive impact from the warrants associated with We continue to evaluate our options relative to the convertible notes as well as the impact of the convertible notes on dilution and our share repurchase strategy. Operator00:16:00Our 2023 share forecast includes the net impact of share repurchases and anticipated dilution, assuming our share price increases throughout 2023. We expect to begin a $100,000,000 share repurchase program in our open window After this earnings release, you will find an illustration of the convertible note dynamics in our investor presentation. We exited Q1 with approximately $1,600,000,000 of our $1,800,000,000 capacity available under our ABL facility and we have ample capacity to fund our business operations and for capital deployment priorities. Since Q4 of 2022, With our strong operating performance, we have used $124,000,000 to pay down our ABL and $117,000,000 to repurchase shares. Overall, we are really pleased with the balance sheet strength. Operator00:16:55Further, our adjusted return on invested Capital or ROIC for the trailing 12 months ended March 31, 2023 was 15.9%, an increase of 50 basis points from the prior year. Our presentation shows our trailing 12 month performance through Q1 of 2023 relative to the metrics that we laid out at our Investor Day in October. As a reminder, 2022 is our baseline for our 20 27 CAGR based Since our last earnings call, we've seen a slowdown in our clients' decision making due to the increased uncertainty in the macroeconomic environment. Considering this, we now expect a moderate decline in net sales growth for the year. However, We anticipate mid single digit gross profit growth related to our business mix, product pricing initiatives and profitability improvements in our services business as we execute on our strategy to become the leading solutions integrator. Operator00:17:55We also implemented initiatives focused on improving operating expense leverage in mid-twenty 22 and that has positioned us well going into 2023. And We will continue to implement further profitability and productivity initiatives, leveraging automation and venture capabilities, as well as improving cash flow And preserving capital for critical initiatives. While it's unclear what growth will be in the IT space this year, cloud, data, AI and fiber have traditionally grown in the double digit range. We believe the strength of our solutions portfolio combined with our prudent operating expense and cash flow management should position us well to navigate through this business cycle. As we can combine our guidance for the full year of 2023, We expect to deliver gross profit growth in the mid single digit range. Operator00:18:45We expect to be at the lower end of our previous guidance range of adjusted diluted earnings per share of $9.90 to $10.10 This outlook assumes a slight decrease in interest expense to $46,000,000 to $50,000,000 an effective tax rate of 25% to 26% for the full year, Capital expenditures of $55,000,000 to $60,000,000 and an increase in the average share count for the full year to 34,800,000 shares, including estimated dilution from the warrants, net of share repurchases completed in the Q1 and our planned future share repurchases under our current authorization. This outlook excludes acquisition related intangible expenses of $32,000,000 assumes no acquisition related or severance and restructuring and translation expenses and assumes no meaningful change in our debt instruments or the macroeconomic outlook. I will now turn the call back to Joyce. Thanks, Liz. We believe our broad portfolio provides us with the resiliency to navigate through the headwinds in this current macroeconomic environment. Operator00:19:56We are well positioned in the fastest growing areas of the market. We are executing towards our ambition to become the leading solutions integrator. We are passionately focused on delivering against our strategic pillars of captivating clients, Selling solutions, delivering differentiation and championing our culture. In closing, I would like to thank our clients for trusting Insight Help them with their transformational journey. Our partners for their continued collaboration and support in delivering innovative solutions to our clients and our teammates for their commitment to our clients, partners and each other. Operator00:20:31This concludes my comments and we will now open the line for your questions. Speaker 100:20:57So our first question comes from the line of Matt Sheerin of Stifel. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:21:05Yes. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. My first question is just regarding your hardware sales. It looks like hardware sales were down 20% year over year in North America, 23% in Europe. Speaker 300:21:20I know you said that hardware sales will be weak in the first half. Do you have a sense of when that bottoms? I think you originally thought it would bottom in the first half. It seems like things have been incrementally Weaker. So what's your outlook there both for client devices and infrastructure solutions? Speaker 400:21:40Thank you, Matt. Yes, so first of all, I just want to reiterate that we are really focused on selling very powerful IT solutions. So We experienced device softness in Q4 and we delivered pretty good results. We definitely had a soft quarter with devices in Q1 And still delivered on our internal targets. So while we have always been signaling that the first half It's going to be pretty rough from a hardware point of view, especially a device point of view, and that we would see some recovery in the back half of the year. Speaker 400:22:17We do still expect to see recovery in the back half of the year, although it's probably more like Q4 rather than Q3 from a device point of view. Our infrastructure business was pretty solid for the quarter. We saw some good growth there and we still have elevated backlog from an infrastructure point of view And we expect to see infrastructure remain fairly resilient through the year. Speaker 300:22:43Okay. So the backlog, I mean, do you think you have enough backlog to get you through the year in terms of growth in that area? Operator00:22:51Yes. Infrastructure, I mean, it's going Speaker 400:22:53to be flat to up a little bit. It's not going to be dynamic. Speaker 300:22:58Got it. Okay. And then in terms of the gross margin, your guidance for the year implies that gross margin Will be should be significantly over 16% or so. Is that mix do you see that mix Favorable through the year or as client devices come back, would gross margin actually be down on a year over year basis by the time you get to Q4? Operator00:23:25Gross margin will not be down on a year over year basis in 2023. We anticipate that we'll see continued gross margin expansion. In Q2, as you know, it's our biggest Microsoft CloudSoftware related quarter. Gross margins will go up From where we were in Q2 as it relates to that cycle in our business and we would expect that by the time we get to the end of the year, gross margins will be somewhere in the 17% range Based on the fact as a percentage of the overall portfolio and services, gross profit Expansion and also the profitability and margin expansion we're getting through the profitability initiatives we put in for product last year that are showing benefit this year. Sorry for my voice. Speaker 300:24:09Got it. Okay. Thank you for that, Glynis. And Just my last question regarding the core services business, which was, I guess, flat year over year. Are you expecting to grow that this year? Operator00:24:24We are expecting to grow that business. So when you look at our results, I think What would be the driver? It would be the elements that we saw in the Q1. So what happened in Q1 is that last Here in 2022, we had very strong devices growth and that pulled a lot of integration lab work that we do for our clients before we Ship out devices to them to meet their needs. We're seeing a slowdown and a decline in that labs integration related work this year. Operator00:24:56We're seeing expansion in data, AI, cyber, infrastructure, cloud, Assessments, etcetera, we're seeing expansion there. We would anticipate that we would continue to see that assessment. And we think that some of the integration work will come back I think Q4, not really before then, but won't be as strong a decline on a year over year basis in the second half as it was in the first half relative to the very strong compare from 2022. Speaker 300:25:27Got it. Okay. Thanks very much. Operator00:25:31Thank you. Speaker 500:25:34Our next question comes from Speaker 100:25:36the line of Joseph Cardoso of JPMorgan, your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:25:43Good morning and thanks for the question. I just wanted to follow-up On one of the prior questions there, it sounds like you are seeing incremental weakness like some of the peers that have preannounced today. However, just curious to hear How that breakdowns between your various offerings from a demand perspective, if we can just ignore backlog for a second here. Specifically, can you just clarify whether you're Seeing steeper underlying demand weakness around devices or is that weakness starting to proliferate into like infrastructure, software and or services? Operator00:26:17Okay. So I think I'm going to reiterate what we said last quarter and we'll say for the first half of this year. Hardware will be down on a year over year basis in the first half, strictly because of the compares that we had from 2022. We do anticipate some growth in hardware going through For the remainder of the back half of twenty twenty three. Specific to your question, we think that we will see continue to see very strong Growth that we've seen so far, we will continue to or we would see services gross margin expansion continue on a go forward basis. Operator00:26:55And Yes, we will see infrastructure stronger in the first half, a little bit softer in the second half, strictly related to compares on a year over year basis, But we still anticipate growth in infrastructure from a hardware perspective going forward. And services, We would anticipate as we continue to deliver on the data AI and more advanced solutions for our clients that we will continue to see Gross profit and gross margin expansion there. Speaker 600:27:26Okay. I guess maybe just switching to my next question. Operator00:27:29I'm not sure if I answered your Yes. Can I just go back one second? We do anticipate the market is softer. Yes. We're not being blind to what's happening in the market. Operator00:27:39The market is softer. We took actions last year in the second half, kind of mid last year to start controlling our SG and A going into 2023. That's helping us out. As we go into 2023, we're very focused on where we spend our SG and A dollars that's helping us ultimately in terms Of what's happening and Microsoft and Google, all of the super the hyperscalers have reported very strong growth numbers. Our cloud numbers are even stronger than what they've all reported. Operator00:28:10So I think we're in a good position to maintain the profitability of our business And controller infrastructure controller SG and A car. Speaker 600:28:20Got it, Glynis. And then maybe just touching on that last comment you made just on SG and A. It seems like you're kind of pulling on that cost discipline again as you're reiterating kind of this earnings outlook despite the lower gross profit outlook. Some of the questions that I've been getting into this earnings season around Incyte was just how much of this OpEx Our cost discipline that you guys are kind of flexing here over the past couple of quarters and even in going forward and kind of what we're looking at this outlook, how much of that is more structural versus what we've seen historically from the company in terms of OpEx expansion versus perhaps maybe just variable costs And the model as you kind of enter, let's call it a lower demand backdrop. Any color around that would be helpful. Operator00:29:03I think I would I do understand your question. I think I would say that our cost discipline now is more structural than it is variable. Of course, Hey, with declining volumes, we actually have declines in our commission expense, right, but that's not the biggest driver about what happens Overall, we have made some structural changes first in our profitability at the gross margin line. So you see incremental gross Profit dollars and incremental gross margin coming through related to the profitability initiatives we put in place starting last year, the pricing initiative that we've talked about with With regard to both product and services or solutions. So those are the things that are kind of playing through. Operator00:29:46And from an SG and A perspective, The changes that we've made have been more around being very prescriptive with regard to the headcount and the Talent that we're adding to the organization. You will notice that SG and A as a percentage of revenue increased in Q1. So we're not adding talent into our business. But I think the more important thing is that we've made a determination with regard to near shoring, off shoring, best shoring, some of the functions that we've had That's also helping us as we go forward. And some of those things started last year and you're seeing that roll through and be a benefit in 2023. Speaker 100:30:34Our next question comes from the line of Adam Tindle of Raymond James. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:30:42Okay, thanks. Good morning. I just wanted to talk about the maintaining of guidance and it sounds like based on your answers there that embedded in that is an Expectation that hardware is going to be down in the first half, but up in the second half. So if that's correct, I guess the flip side that we'll get pushed back on from investors on that view is that we've been through a very, very strong cycle in hardware from a unit basis Over the past year and a half or so, we Speaker 600:31:11may be in for a period Speaker 700:31:12of slower unit growth and with that could come declining ASPs or Potential for deflation in hardware making it incrementally challenging to grow in the back half. So Speaker 300:31:23I think you kind of understand Speaker 700:31:24the line of thinking or cause for concern. I would just Be curious how you would respond to those concerns and what underpins the confidence that hardware will return to growth in the back half of the year other than the year over year comparison? Thank you. Speaker 400:31:40So I think, Adam, first of all, I mean, the mix of our business is different than Some of the other people you're thinking about, I think. Really for us, this is all about the IT solutions that are a combination of hardware, software and services. Glyn has talked about the really impressive cloud growth. That's obviously a big driver in the market and One of the fastest growing areas of the market and frankly a place where clients need the most help, not just to move workloads to the cloud, but also to manage Cost in this environment, and so we have really strong capabilities around that. And now we've got 2 quarters of Pretty significant device decline in our history and we still deliver on our internal targets for EPS. Speaker 400:32:24So I feel like we've demonstrated consistently that we are not as dependent on devices as Maybe one might think and that the strength of our solutions portfolio is pulling us through. So there is no doubt that Cloud, data, AI, cyber are continuing to be really, really important to our clients in this uncertain environment. And so even though we don't believe that devices will sort of come back to growth until Q4, we're pretty confident in our guide because of the breadth Speaker 300:33:01Okay. Can I just add to Adam, Speaker 100:33:04can I just add go ahead? Speaker 700:33:08Go ahead, Glynis. Operator00:33:10I was just going to say, we get the devices question all the time. And for us, Devices is the lowest gross margin category that we have. So I can I sell a lot of devices at very low gross margin and my revenue looks great, my gross Margin looks horrible or it declines somewhat? And then I use a lot of cash. I use a lot of working capital to support that. Operator00:33:32Our model is changing. Our model is different. If you look at our in the presentation, you will see that Hardware as a percentage of our total is declining to 57% from what was 63% in Q1 of last year. That is a model that we believe is we can maintain on a go forward basis. The mix between hardware versus Devices versus other elements of hardware will change over time, but I think we've demonstrated our ability to push through that and deliver expansion of gross margin and strong Financial Results. Speaker 700:34:09Okay. That's helpful. And then maybe for Joyce, just curious About the cadence of the quarter, I think there was kind of a view that things seem to be going okay in January February, broadly speaking, across IT and then All the Silicon Valley Bank and banking crisis happened in March and things kind of froze. So just curious what you saw in your Customer base and in particular trends that you're seeing here in April, if there's been any change in that cadence would be helpful. Thanks. Speaker 400:34:41I'm trying to think about the cadence during the quarter. I mean, Certainly, the noise level and the conversations did change with event failures. And certainly, I'm sure that contributed to some of the Slower decision making that Glenn has talked about. Generally though, I would say, we saw pretty consistent declines across It's on the top line across the segments and pretty consistent flat to growth performance on the GP line across segments. That's a North American statement where we We spent more time looking at that. Speaker 400:35:15But, so I don't we didn't see a massive drop off in March in terms of demand or bookings or So I think it was a fairly consistent conservative quarter, maybe the noise level cranked up a little bit in Q In the back half of the quarter. Speaker 600:35:36Okay. And in the month Speaker 700:35:37of April, any change from relative to March? Speaker 400:35:41No, not much change. I mean, March yes, March is I mean, I think March April are looking pretty similar. Q2 is looking a lot like Q1. Speaker 100:35:56Our next question comes from the line of Vincent Colcicchio of Barrington Research. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:36:08Yes. Thanks for taking my questions. Curious in your Client segments, any differentiation in terms of demand trends from enterprises, public sector and the SMB sector? Operator00:36:25We're seeing a little bit more strength Speaker 400:36:26on the top line in public sector. The spending in the U. S, in particular, is fairly robust. And then as I said, all of The rest of the segments are pretty consistently down on the top line and gross profit flat to up. Speaker 800:36:50And Glynis, you had cited cloud data AI and cyber is traditionally growing at the double Can you provide some sense for how large a portion of your revenue those areas Compress? Speaker 300:37:10I don't Operator00:37:10have a good answer to that. You can see the cloud pieces because we report that Separately, so you can see the cloud GP contribution and then the data AI elements would be part of our Speaker 800:37:30And one quick problem in those areas. Is the labor market easing, helping you fuel, excuse me, growth in those areas? Operator00:37:42The labor market is easing. The technical talent that we're looking at is a little bit easier to find than we have seen it historically. And we do think it's helping meet the demand that we have. I wouldn't say it's actually fueling the growth. But To the extent that we have the new deals that are coming in and new clients that we're new projects we're initiating for clients, we can find the technical talent to support those projects. Speaker 500:38:15Our final question comes from Speaker 100:38:16the line of Anthony Zvezniksy of Societe and Company. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:38:28Hi, good morning. This is Stefan Gill on for Anthony Lipinski. My first question is, at your Investor Day in October, you talked about portfolio simplification and sales Transformation, can you give us an update on these initiatives, please? Speaker 400:38:45Yes, sure. So from a sales transformation We have made a significant turn. I think we are we'd like to talk about how we are beyond transformation and now we're into We're particularly excited about our sellers focusing on a more focused book of accounts So that they can go deeper with those clients, understand more of their or more of the opportunities to expand our share of wallet in those accounts And make sure we're delivering even more value to those clients. So we're feeling pretty good about the sales transformation And as I said, we've moved on from transformation into execution and that's going well. We are also Continuing the work on our portfolio simplification, that also helps with that same focus that I just talked about from a sales perspective and also helps us Build more capability around positioning those solutions and especially in the fastest growing areas of the market, data, AI, cyber, cloud, edge. Speaker 400:39:51And so that work is ongoing and will continue throughout the year. Speaker 500:40:00Thank you. And can you also talk about your cash flow priorities, including acquisitions? Are you seeing lower multiples For M and A activity? Speaker 400:40:10We are starting to see some movement in Expectations from sellers, but it's very early. But that is we are heartened by that. And So we expect that that will be an important part of our strategy going forward. Do you Operator00:40:27want to talk about cash flow priorities? Yes. I think as of right now, we have less than $200,000,000 outstanding under our ABL. So we have a significant amount of cash that we could deploy as it relates to acquisitions even if we can find companies at the right price and that fits our Portfolio with regard to what the areas that we'd like to augment. And we anticipate that our cash flow will continue to be strong in 20 23. Operator00:40:56We have seasonality in our cash flow associated with our business, but we would envision by the time we get to the end of 2023 that we would be Probably at the top end, if not above that $220,000,000 range for our cash flows that we talked about. Speaker 300:41:13All Speaker 500:41:13right. Thank you. Speaker 100:41:16Thank you. Speaker 500:41:17Thank you for taking my questions. Speaker 100:41:24Thank you. As there are no additional questions waiting at this time, I'd like to hand the conference back over to management team for closing remarks. Speaker 400:41:39I think we're all set. If there are no more questions, I think we're set and good to go. Thank you all very much for your time and attention this morning. 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There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Hello, and Speaker 100:00:01a warm welcome to the Insight Enterprises Corporation's First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Candice, and I'll be coordinating your call for today. All lines have been placed on mute during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for question and answer at the end. I would now like to hand The conference over to our host, James Maldonado. Please go ahead. Speaker 200:00:32Welcome, everyone, and thank you for joining the Insight Enterprises Earnings Conference Call. Today, we will be discussing the company's operating results for the quarter ended March 31, 2023. I'm James Mercado, Senior Vice President of Finance and CFO of Insight North America. Joining me is Joyce Mullen, President Chief Executive Officer and Glenys Bryan, Chief Financial Officer. If you do not have a copy of the earnings release or the accompanying slide presentation that was posted this morning and filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on Form 8 ks, you will find it on our website at insight.com under the Investor Relations section. Speaker 200:01:09Today's call, including the question and answer period, is being webcast live and can also be accessed via the Investor Relations page of our website at insight.com. An archived copy of the conference call will be available approximately 2 hours after completion of the call and will remain on our website for a limited time. This conference call and the associated webcast contain time sensitive information that is accurate only as of today, May 2, 2023. This call is the property of Insight Enterprises. Any redistribution, retransmission or rebroadcast of this call in any form without the expressed written consent of Insight Enterprises is strictly prohibited. Speaker 200:01:48In today's conference call, we will be referring to non GAAP financial measures as we discuss the Q1 2023 financial results. When discussing non GAAP measures, we will refer to them as adjusted. You'll find a reconciliation of these adjusted measures to our actual GAAP results included in both the press release and the accompanying slide presentation issued earlier today. Also, please note that unless highlighted as constant currency, all amounts and growth rates discussed are in U. S. Speaker 200:02:15Dollar terms. As a reminder, all forward looking statements that are made during this conference call are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially. These risks are discussed in today's Press release and in greater detail in our most recently filed periodic reports and subsequent filings with the SEC. All forward looking statements are made as of the date of this call. And except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update any forward looking statement made on this call, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Speaker 200:02:49With that, I will now turn the call over to Joyce. And if you're following along with the slide presentation, We'll begin on slide 4. Joyce? Operator00:02:57Thank you very much, James. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I am pleased to report that we delivered adjusted diluted EPS in line with our internal expectations in a market that was even more volatile than we had anticipated. We also delivered strong gross margin, adjusted EBITDA margin and cash flow from operations. As a result, we are confirming our full year 20 Our performance in Q1 reflects a combination of very strong cloud growth as well as growth within our solutions portfolio, primarily digital transformation, Data, AI and cyber consistent with the higher growth areas of the market. Operator00:03:42Gross profit grew 3% over last year and we expanded gross margin to a Q1 record of 16.8 percent. We accomplished this despite a decline in net sales, primarily related to devices, partially offset by an increase in Infrastructure Solutions and 38% growth in cloud. As a reminder, gross is the best way to measure our performance due to the increase in the percentage of our revenue that is reported on a net basis. We also demonstrated additional leverage in our operating expenses and combined with our gross margin expansion, This led to adjusted EBITDA margin expanding to 4.3%. There is no doubt that the macroeconomic environment will continue to be challenging in 2023. Operator00:04:29In these uncertain times and in the world of accelerated change, Our clients need a partner with deep expertise they can trust to deliver innovative results fast. Although the IT market is normalizing after a few years of elevated growth, clients remain committed to digital transformation, Leveraging technology, including large language models to improve efficiency, reduce risk and deliver a better customer experience. As companies look to reduce costs as a result of the macroeconomic environment, the importance of tech enablement, automation and connectivity are greater than ever. These solutions require hardware, software and services. This is at the heart of our strategy to become the leading solutions integrator. Operator00:05:16As a reminder, there are 4 key pillars underpinning the strategy that we outlined last fall at our Investor Day. First, Captivate clients. This is a people and outcome focused business. We pride ourselves on earning the right to do more by delivering high quality and outcome based solutions. And our investments in e commerce and automation will allow our clients to transact with us more efficiently via self-service. Operator00:05:43This creates a seamless experience for our clients and frees up our sales teammates to focus on our second pillar, which is selling solutions. We are transforming our sales capabilities and aligning our incentives to focus on our solutions portfolio. We continue to streamline our account coverage to match skills with our clients' needs and propensity to buy services. The theme here is really about focus, That is doing a finite number of things and doing them really well. Our 3rd pillar is delivery differentiation. Operator00:06:15This is all about providing innovative scalable solutions through reusable IP, exceptional technical talent and our very compelling solutions portfolio. Again, we are focusing on our strengths that align with the fastest growing areas of the market in the areas where our clients need the most help cloud, data, AI, cyber and edge. And the 4th pillar is to champion our culture. This has been a strategic advantage for us and we will continue to leverage our values of hunger, heart and harmony to evolve our high performance culture. This is critical to attracting and retaining incredible talent. Operator00:06:55I'd like to share an example of applying our expertise and services to solve a significant business problem for one of our clients. Our client, a global logistics, e commerce and business services company partnered with us to modernize their time consuming talent acquisition process. They had high rates of applicant drop off, which led to increased costs due to attrition of the candidate pool. We re engineered their HR recruiting process. We integrated multiple technology applications to create a seamless interface and implemented AI to evaluate the progress of Candidates at various milestones to increase the effectiveness of recruiting over time. Operator00:07:35This led to a reduction of recruiting time by 20%, increased HR productivity by 30%, improved the candidate experience and retention and importantly increased the quality of the client's talent acquisition. Our client was able to increase productivity through technology and a more seamless process, allowing them to improve the return on investment and improved candidate experience. This project has led to additional engagements, including improving supply chain projects and modern workplace services as well as consulting on additional process improvement projects using AI and machine learning. Our drive to deliver meaningful outcome based solutions is not only recognized by our clients, but also the industry. We are honored to receive the 2023 America's Retail Partner of the Year Award from NVIDIA. Operator00:08:28As an elite partner, InSight collaborates to bring the best of deep learning solutions to clients. InSight consultants and engineers use NVIDIA expertise and resources to help clients gain a Competitive advantage by leveraging AI and data analytics to solve business problems. Also cybersecurity continues to be a top focus for companies navigating their digital transformation journey. Insight was recognized by Fortinet as the 2022 Growth Partner of the Year. And we are proud that Insight was named as one of the 2023 Achievers 50 Most Engaged Workplaces I am proud of the accomplishments of our team and the recognition we continue to receive. Operator00:09:17Equally important is that we perform and act in a responsible and ethical manner. We recently published our annual Corporate Citizenship Report. This report details Insight's positive influence on the world around us and our continued focus on Sustainability and Diversity and Inclusion. This report also highlights our teammates' contributions to our communities. The report focuses on 4 areas of impact: Building a more sustainable world that describes Incyte's work to reduce our own carbon footprint, our collaboration with partners And the work we do with clients in this area. Operator00:09:52Using technology for good, a look at the work we've done for clients that improves the lives of people around the world. Fostering a culture of diversity and inclusion, while also providing opportunities and driving creativity and innovation in the workplace that encourages Full participation by all teammates. And finally, Leading With Heart, which spotlights our support for teammates from an increased emphasis on mental well-being, Flexible work programs and our focus on improving the communities in which we operate. An example of the work that Incyte does to Promote a more sustainable world is a solution we developed for a large utility company in Australia. Our client had a proprietary wastewater network monitoring system that was expensive to maintain a required proprietary network infrastructure and hardware. Operator00:10:41Its aging infrastructure post security concerns have prevented our clients from implementing AI and advanced analytics. We built a wastewater monitoring platform on Azure IoT and created a solution to connect 30,000 devices for wastewater level monitoring. By leveraging our expertise to scale applications using low code development techniques, we moved from initial concepts to operations very quickly. In addition to saving our client 1,000,000 of dollars annually, we reduced our clients' cybersecurity risk by replacing their aging platform, reduced vendor lock in and gained access to real time data and improved data analytics. We also helped our client reduce energy consumption, Success with these projects led to a long term services contract to manage their platform. Operator00:11:39We remain focused on our ambition to become the leading solutions integrator and I look forward to discussing our progress as we continue our journey. With that, I'll turn the call over to Glynis to share the key details of our financial and operating performance in Q1 and our full year outlook. Glynis? Thank you, Joyce. As Joyce mentioned, our results for the quarter were in line with our expectations in a challenging macroeconomic environment and demonstrate the resiliency of our operating model. Operator00:12:07The slide presentation includes details on our Q1 performance for the 3 geographic regions and our consolidated results. I will focus on our consolidated results and the key highlights from our Q1 performance on this call. You will find the GAAP equivalents for our adjusted results and a reconciliation to the GAAP amounts in the investor presentation. In Q1, net revenue was $2,300,000,000 a decrease of 12% in U. S. Operator00:12:33Dollar terms and 11% in constant currency compared to the prior year. This decrease was driven by a significant decline in devices, partially offset by an increase in cloud, networking and infrastructure. The decline in devices is consistent with our previous comments indicating that we expected a significant decline during the first half of twenty twenty three compared to the first half of twenty twenty two when devices were up substantially. Despite the performance in devices, gross profit grew 3% year over year, primarily driven by cloud, which grew 38%. As a reminder, gross profit is the best way to measure our performance due to the increase in the percentage of our revenue that is reported on a net basis. Operator00:13:19InsightCore Services gross profit was $61,000,000 flat year to year. This performance reflects lower integration and other services related to the decline in devices, which was offset by growth in applications, data, digital enablement, networking and security. Gross margin was a Q1 record of 16.8%, an increase of 2 50 basis points, reflecting the higher mix of cloud, InsightCore Services and infrastructure products, which transact at higher margins relative to devices. In addition, our profitability and pricing initiatives also resulted in higher hardware and services gross margin. From a geo perspective, North America delivered a record 17.2% gross margin and drove our strong performance in gross profit. Operator00:14:11More details on North America and the other geos can be found in our presentation. Our gross profit performance combined with our operating expense leverage resulted in adjusted EBITDA margin of 4.3 percent, an increase of 60 basis points. For the Q1, Adjusted diluted earnings per share was $1.78 down 2% in U. S. Dollar terms and flat in constant currency year to year. Operator00:14:38This includes approximately $0.08 related to higher interest expense and lower outstanding debt in this quarter versus Q1 of 2022. In addition, the impact to adjusted diluted earnings per share from the warrants associated with our convertible notes accounted for $0.05 As a reminder, the guidance we provided in February included the impact of higher interest expense and partial dilution related to the warrants. As we previously discussed, with the slower growth in hardware in the Q1, we generated $160,000,000 in cash flow from operations in the Q1 compared to a use of $284,000,000 in Q1 of 2022. And to update you on our share repurchase program, in Q1, we repurchased 913,000 shares of our common stock for a total cost of $117,000,000 As of the end of April, we have approximately $100,000,000 remaining under our current $300,000,000 share repurchase authorization. We intend to continue repurchasing shares to offset the dilutive impact from the warrants associated with We continue to evaluate our options relative to the convertible notes as well as the impact of the convertible notes on dilution and our share repurchase strategy. Operator00:16:00Our 2023 share forecast includes the net impact of share repurchases and anticipated dilution, assuming our share price increases throughout 2023. We expect to begin a $100,000,000 share repurchase program in our open window After this earnings release, you will find an illustration of the convertible note dynamics in our investor presentation. We exited Q1 with approximately $1,600,000,000 of our $1,800,000,000 capacity available under our ABL facility and we have ample capacity to fund our business operations and for capital deployment priorities. Since Q4 of 2022, With our strong operating performance, we have used $124,000,000 to pay down our ABL and $117,000,000 to repurchase shares. Overall, we are really pleased with the balance sheet strength. Operator00:16:55Further, our adjusted return on invested Capital or ROIC for the trailing 12 months ended March 31, 2023 was 15.9%, an increase of 50 basis points from the prior year. Our presentation shows our trailing 12 month performance through Q1 of 2023 relative to the metrics that we laid out at our Investor Day in October. As a reminder, 2022 is our baseline for our 20 27 CAGR based Since our last earnings call, we've seen a slowdown in our clients' decision making due to the increased uncertainty in the macroeconomic environment. Considering this, we now expect a moderate decline in net sales growth for the year. However, We anticipate mid single digit gross profit growth related to our business mix, product pricing initiatives and profitability improvements in our services business as we execute on our strategy to become the leading solutions integrator. Operator00:17:55We also implemented initiatives focused on improving operating expense leverage in mid-twenty 22 and that has positioned us well going into 2023. And We will continue to implement further profitability and productivity initiatives, leveraging automation and venture capabilities, as well as improving cash flow And preserving capital for critical initiatives. While it's unclear what growth will be in the IT space this year, cloud, data, AI and fiber have traditionally grown in the double digit range. We believe the strength of our solutions portfolio combined with our prudent operating expense and cash flow management should position us well to navigate through this business cycle. As we can combine our guidance for the full year of 2023, We expect to deliver gross profit growth in the mid single digit range. Operator00:18:45We expect to be at the lower end of our previous guidance range of adjusted diluted earnings per share of $9.90 to $10.10 This outlook assumes a slight decrease in interest expense to $46,000,000 to $50,000,000 an effective tax rate of 25% to 26% for the full year, Capital expenditures of $55,000,000 to $60,000,000 and an increase in the average share count for the full year to 34,800,000 shares, including estimated dilution from the warrants, net of share repurchases completed in the Q1 and our planned future share repurchases under our current authorization. This outlook excludes acquisition related intangible expenses of $32,000,000 assumes no acquisition related or severance and restructuring and translation expenses and assumes no meaningful change in our debt instruments or the macroeconomic outlook. I will now turn the call back to Joyce. Thanks, Liz. We believe our broad portfolio provides us with the resiliency to navigate through the headwinds in this current macroeconomic environment. Operator00:19:56We are well positioned in the fastest growing areas of the market. We are executing towards our ambition to become the leading solutions integrator. We are passionately focused on delivering against our strategic pillars of captivating clients, Selling solutions, delivering differentiation and championing our culture. In closing, I would like to thank our clients for trusting Insight Help them with their transformational journey. Our partners for their continued collaboration and support in delivering innovative solutions to our clients and our teammates for their commitment to our clients, partners and each other. Operator00:20:31This concludes my comments and we will now open the line for your questions. Speaker 100:20:57So our first question comes from the line of Matt Sheerin of Stifel. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 300:21:05Yes. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. My first question is just regarding your hardware sales. It looks like hardware sales were down 20% year over year in North America, 23% in Europe. Speaker 300:21:20I know you said that hardware sales will be weak in the first half. Do you have a sense of when that bottoms? I think you originally thought it would bottom in the first half. It seems like things have been incrementally Weaker. So what's your outlook there both for client devices and infrastructure solutions? Speaker 400:21:40Thank you, Matt. Yes, so first of all, I just want to reiterate that we are really focused on selling very powerful IT solutions. So We experienced device softness in Q4 and we delivered pretty good results. We definitely had a soft quarter with devices in Q1 And still delivered on our internal targets. So while we have always been signaling that the first half It's going to be pretty rough from a hardware point of view, especially a device point of view, and that we would see some recovery in the back half of the year. Speaker 400:22:17We do still expect to see recovery in the back half of the year, although it's probably more like Q4 rather than Q3 from a device point of view. Our infrastructure business was pretty solid for the quarter. We saw some good growth there and we still have elevated backlog from an infrastructure point of view And we expect to see infrastructure remain fairly resilient through the year. Speaker 300:22:43Okay. So the backlog, I mean, do you think you have enough backlog to get you through the year in terms of growth in that area? Operator00:22:51Yes. Infrastructure, I mean, it's going Speaker 400:22:53to be flat to up a little bit. It's not going to be dynamic. Speaker 300:22:58Got it. Okay. And then in terms of the gross margin, your guidance for the year implies that gross margin Will be should be significantly over 16% or so. Is that mix do you see that mix Favorable through the year or as client devices come back, would gross margin actually be down on a year over year basis by the time you get to Q4? Operator00:23:25Gross margin will not be down on a year over year basis in 2023. We anticipate that we'll see continued gross margin expansion. In Q2, as you know, it's our biggest Microsoft CloudSoftware related quarter. Gross margins will go up From where we were in Q2 as it relates to that cycle in our business and we would expect that by the time we get to the end of the year, gross margins will be somewhere in the 17% range Based on the fact as a percentage of the overall portfolio and services, gross profit Expansion and also the profitability and margin expansion we're getting through the profitability initiatives we put in for product last year that are showing benefit this year. Sorry for my voice. Speaker 300:24:09Got it. Okay. Thank you for that, Glynis. And Just my last question regarding the core services business, which was, I guess, flat year over year. Are you expecting to grow that this year? Operator00:24:24We are expecting to grow that business. So when you look at our results, I think What would be the driver? It would be the elements that we saw in the Q1. So what happened in Q1 is that last Here in 2022, we had very strong devices growth and that pulled a lot of integration lab work that we do for our clients before we Ship out devices to them to meet their needs. We're seeing a slowdown and a decline in that labs integration related work this year. Operator00:24:56We're seeing expansion in data, AI, cyber, infrastructure, cloud, Assessments, etcetera, we're seeing expansion there. We would anticipate that we would continue to see that assessment. And we think that some of the integration work will come back I think Q4, not really before then, but won't be as strong a decline on a year over year basis in the second half as it was in the first half relative to the very strong compare from 2022. Speaker 300:25:27Got it. Okay. Thanks very much. Operator00:25:31Thank you. Speaker 500:25:34Our next question comes from Speaker 100:25:36the line of Joseph Cardoso of JPMorgan, your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 600:25:43Good morning and thanks for the question. I just wanted to follow-up On one of the prior questions there, it sounds like you are seeing incremental weakness like some of the peers that have preannounced today. However, just curious to hear How that breakdowns between your various offerings from a demand perspective, if we can just ignore backlog for a second here. Specifically, can you just clarify whether you're Seeing steeper underlying demand weakness around devices or is that weakness starting to proliferate into like infrastructure, software and or services? Operator00:26:17Okay. So I think I'm going to reiterate what we said last quarter and we'll say for the first half of this year. Hardware will be down on a year over year basis in the first half, strictly because of the compares that we had from 2022. We do anticipate some growth in hardware going through For the remainder of the back half of twenty twenty three. Specific to your question, we think that we will see continue to see very strong Growth that we've seen so far, we will continue to or we would see services gross margin expansion continue on a go forward basis. Operator00:26:55And Yes, we will see infrastructure stronger in the first half, a little bit softer in the second half, strictly related to compares on a year over year basis, But we still anticipate growth in infrastructure from a hardware perspective going forward. And services, We would anticipate as we continue to deliver on the data AI and more advanced solutions for our clients that we will continue to see Gross profit and gross margin expansion there. Speaker 600:27:26Okay. I guess maybe just switching to my next question. Operator00:27:29I'm not sure if I answered your Yes. Can I just go back one second? We do anticipate the market is softer. Yes. We're not being blind to what's happening in the market. Operator00:27:39The market is softer. We took actions last year in the second half, kind of mid last year to start controlling our SG and A going into 2023. That's helping us out. As we go into 2023, we're very focused on where we spend our SG and A dollars that's helping us ultimately in terms Of what's happening and Microsoft and Google, all of the super the hyperscalers have reported very strong growth numbers. Our cloud numbers are even stronger than what they've all reported. Operator00:28:10So I think we're in a good position to maintain the profitability of our business And controller infrastructure controller SG and A car. Speaker 600:28:20Got it, Glynis. And then maybe just touching on that last comment you made just on SG and A. It seems like you're kind of pulling on that cost discipline again as you're reiterating kind of this earnings outlook despite the lower gross profit outlook. Some of the questions that I've been getting into this earnings season around Incyte was just how much of this OpEx Our cost discipline that you guys are kind of flexing here over the past couple of quarters and even in going forward and kind of what we're looking at this outlook, how much of that is more structural versus what we've seen historically from the company in terms of OpEx expansion versus perhaps maybe just variable costs And the model as you kind of enter, let's call it a lower demand backdrop. Any color around that would be helpful. Operator00:29:03I think I would I do understand your question. I think I would say that our cost discipline now is more structural than it is variable. Of course, Hey, with declining volumes, we actually have declines in our commission expense, right, but that's not the biggest driver about what happens Overall, we have made some structural changes first in our profitability at the gross margin line. So you see incremental gross Profit dollars and incremental gross margin coming through related to the profitability initiatives we put in place starting last year, the pricing initiative that we've talked about with With regard to both product and services or solutions. So those are the things that are kind of playing through. Operator00:29:46And from an SG and A perspective, The changes that we've made have been more around being very prescriptive with regard to the headcount and the Talent that we're adding to the organization. You will notice that SG and A as a percentage of revenue increased in Q1. So we're not adding talent into our business. But I think the more important thing is that we've made a determination with regard to near shoring, off shoring, best shoring, some of the functions that we've had That's also helping us as we go forward. And some of those things started last year and you're seeing that roll through and be a benefit in 2023. Speaker 100:30:34Our next question comes from the line of Adam Tindle of Raymond James. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:30:42Okay, thanks. Good morning. I just wanted to talk about the maintaining of guidance and it sounds like based on your answers there that embedded in that is an Expectation that hardware is going to be down in the first half, but up in the second half. So if that's correct, I guess the flip side that we'll get pushed back on from investors on that view is that we've been through a very, very strong cycle in hardware from a unit basis Over the past year and a half or so, we Speaker 600:31:11may be in for a period Speaker 700:31:12of slower unit growth and with that could come declining ASPs or Potential for deflation in hardware making it incrementally challenging to grow in the back half. So Speaker 300:31:23I think you kind of understand Speaker 700:31:24the line of thinking or cause for concern. I would just Be curious how you would respond to those concerns and what underpins the confidence that hardware will return to growth in the back half of the year other than the year over year comparison? Thank you. Speaker 400:31:40So I think, Adam, first of all, I mean, the mix of our business is different than Some of the other people you're thinking about, I think. Really for us, this is all about the IT solutions that are a combination of hardware, software and services. Glyn has talked about the really impressive cloud growth. That's obviously a big driver in the market and One of the fastest growing areas of the market and frankly a place where clients need the most help, not just to move workloads to the cloud, but also to manage Cost in this environment, and so we have really strong capabilities around that. And now we've got 2 quarters of Pretty significant device decline in our history and we still deliver on our internal targets for EPS. Speaker 400:32:24So I feel like we've demonstrated consistently that we are not as dependent on devices as Maybe one might think and that the strength of our solutions portfolio is pulling us through. So there is no doubt that Cloud, data, AI, cyber are continuing to be really, really important to our clients in this uncertain environment. And so even though we don't believe that devices will sort of come back to growth until Q4, we're pretty confident in our guide because of the breadth Speaker 300:33:01Okay. Can I just add to Adam, Speaker 100:33:04can I just add go ahead? Speaker 700:33:08Go ahead, Glynis. Operator00:33:10I was just going to say, we get the devices question all the time. And for us, Devices is the lowest gross margin category that we have. So I can I sell a lot of devices at very low gross margin and my revenue looks great, my gross Margin looks horrible or it declines somewhat? And then I use a lot of cash. I use a lot of working capital to support that. Operator00:33:32Our model is changing. Our model is different. If you look at our in the presentation, you will see that Hardware as a percentage of our total is declining to 57% from what was 63% in Q1 of last year. That is a model that we believe is we can maintain on a go forward basis. The mix between hardware versus Devices versus other elements of hardware will change over time, but I think we've demonstrated our ability to push through that and deliver expansion of gross margin and strong Financial Results. Speaker 700:34:09Okay. That's helpful. And then maybe for Joyce, just curious About the cadence of the quarter, I think there was kind of a view that things seem to be going okay in January February, broadly speaking, across IT and then All the Silicon Valley Bank and banking crisis happened in March and things kind of froze. So just curious what you saw in your Customer base and in particular trends that you're seeing here in April, if there's been any change in that cadence would be helpful. Thanks. Speaker 400:34:41I'm trying to think about the cadence during the quarter. I mean, Certainly, the noise level and the conversations did change with event failures. And certainly, I'm sure that contributed to some of the Slower decision making that Glenn has talked about. Generally though, I would say, we saw pretty consistent declines across It's on the top line across the segments and pretty consistent flat to growth performance on the GP line across segments. That's a North American statement where we We spent more time looking at that. Speaker 400:35:15But, so I don't we didn't see a massive drop off in March in terms of demand or bookings or So I think it was a fairly consistent conservative quarter, maybe the noise level cranked up a little bit in Q In the back half of the quarter. Speaker 600:35:36Okay. And in the month Speaker 700:35:37of April, any change from relative to March? Speaker 400:35:41No, not much change. I mean, March yes, March is I mean, I think March April are looking pretty similar. Q2 is looking a lot like Q1. Speaker 100:35:56Our next question comes from the line of Vincent Colcicchio of Barrington Research. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Speaker 800:36:08Yes. Thanks for taking my questions. Curious in your Client segments, any differentiation in terms of demand trends from enterprises, public sector and the SMB sector? Operator00:36:25We're seeing a little bit more strength Speaker 400:36:26on the top line in public sector. The spending in the U. S, in particular, is fairly robust. And then as I said, all of The rest of the segments are pretty consistently down on the top line and gross profit flat to up. Speaker 800:36:50And Glynis, you had cited cloud data AI and cyber is traditionally growing at the double Can you provide some sense for how large a portion of your revenue those areas Compress? Speaker 300:37:10I don't Operator00:37:10have a good answer to that. You can see the cloud pieces because we report that Separately, so you can see the cloud GP contribution and then the data AI elements would be part of our Speaker 800:37:30And one quick problem in those areas. Is the labor market easing, helping you fuel, excuse me, growth in those areas? Operator00:37:42The labor market is easing. The technical talent that we're looking at is a little bit easier to find than we have seen it historically. And we do think it's helping meet the demand that we have. I wouldn't say it's actually fueling the growth. But To the extent that we have the new deals that are coming in and new clients that we're new projects we're initiating for clients, we can find the technical talent to support those projects. Speaker 500:38:15Our final question comes from Speaker 100:38:16the line of Anthony Zvezniksy of Societe and Company. Your line is open. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:38:28Hi, good morning. This is Stefan Gill on for Anthony Lipinski. My first question is, at your Investor Day in October, you talked about portfolio simplification and sales Transformation, can you give us an update on these initiatives, please? Speaker 400:38:45Yes, sure. So from a sales transformation We have made a significant turn. I think we are we'd like to talk about how we are beyond transformation and now we're into We're particularly excited about our sellers focusing on a more focused book of accounts So that they can go deeper with those clients, understand more of their or more of the opportunities to expand our share of wallet in those accounts And make sure we're delivering even more value to those clients. So we're feeling pretty good about the sales transformation And as I said, we've moved on from transformation into execution and that's going well. We are also Continuing the work on our portfolio simplification, that also helps with that same focus that I just talked about from a sales perspective and also helps us Build more capability around positioning those solutions and especially in the fastest growing areas of the market, data, AI, cyber, cloud, edge. Speaker 400:39:51And so that work is ongoing and will continue throughout the year. Speaker 500:40:00Thank you. And can you also talk about your cash flow priorities, including acquisitions? Are you seeing lower multiples For M and A activity? Speaker 400:40:10We are starting to see some movement in Expectations from sellers, but it's very early. But that is we are heartened by that. And So we expect that that will be an important part of our strategy going forward. Do you Operator00:40:27want to talk about cash flow priorities? Yes. I think as of right now, we have less than $200,000,000 outstanding under our ABL. So we have a significant amount of cash that we could deploy as it relates to acquisitions even if we can find companies at the right price and that fits our Portfolio with regard to what the areas that we'd like to augment. And we anticipate that our cash flow will continue to be strong in 20 23. Operator00:40:56We have seasonality in our cash flow associated with our business, but we would envision by the time we get to the end of 2023 that we would be Probably at the top end, if not above that $220,000,000 range for our cash flows that we talked about. Speaker 300:41:13All Speaker 500:41:13right. Thank you. Speaker 100:41:16Thank you. Speaker 500:41:17Thank you for taking my questions. Speaker 100:41:24Thank you. As there are no additional questions waiting at this time, I'd like to hand the conference back over to management team for closing remarks. Speaker 400:41:39I think we're all set. If there are no more questions, I think we're set and good to go. Thank you all very much for your time and attention this morning. Speaker 100:41:49Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the Incyte Enterprises Incorporated 1st Quarter 20 20Read moreRemove AdsPowered by