Copart Q1 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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May 2, 2023

There are 9 speakers on the call.

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the NNN REIT First Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Mr. Steve Horn, CEO of NNN REIT. Sir, you may begin.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Ali. Good morning, and welcome to the inaugural NNN REIT 1st Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. Joining me on this call is Chief Financial Officer, Kevin Habak. As this morning's press release reflects, NNN's performance in the Q1 produced 3.9% core FFO growth, along with acquisitions slightly over $155,000,000 with a 7% initial cash yield. In addition, our portfolio retained a high occupancy of 99.4%, which I attribute to the upfront due diligence on property acquisitions and the continuous portfolio management that NNN does every day.

Speaker 1

But before we continue with the operational performance, I want to address the name change, which I'm excited about. First, as I stated in the press release, the change does not signal a strategy shift with acquisitions, balance sheet management with deliberate and consistent NNN. We felt it was time to take advantage of the NNN brand. The reality is NNN is what we are called with our circle of investors, peers, clients every day. In addition, our website and emails Use the NNN REIT brand.

Speaker 1

Therefore, the change is making NNN even more consistent within our sector. Turning to the highlights of the Q1 financial results. Our portfolio of 3,449 freestanding single tenant retail properties continue to As I stated earlier, occupancy ended at 99.4% for the quarter, which is above our long term average of 98%. Occupancy remained flat from year end. At the quarter end, NNN only had 20 vacant assets, which is one less than the year end, which is a product of our leasing department enjoying a high level of interest by a number of strong national and regional tenants in our vacancies.

Speaker 1

In addition, 91% of our leases that were up for renewal during the quarter exercised an extension. I'm sure we'll cover more of the credit watch list in the Q and A, but I just want to give a little bit more color. There are some large names that file bankruptcy, And our portfolio is still performing at high levels, and we expect that trend to continue. 1 of the recent filings of Bed Bath and Beyond, which NNN currently owns 3 of their assets with an average rent of $13 per square foot. We've been getting a lot of inbound interest on the assets because of the quality of real estate.

Speaker 1

So I expect when the time comes to release the assets, we'll have superior recovery rate in a timely manner. Remember, as I stated earlier, The average occupancy from NNN since 2003 is 98%. So the portfolio has stood the test of time through GFC and COVID. Turning to acquisitions, we'll continue to be prudent in our underwriting and NNN is afforded the luxury to continue to be selective. We acquired 43 new properties in the quarter for approximately $155,000,000 with an initial cap rate of 7%, with an average lease duration of 19 years.

Speaker 1

Almost all of our acquisitions this past quarter were sale leaseback transactions. That is a result of the calling effort of our NNN Acquisitions department. NNN prides itself on maintaining the relationship business model, which we do repeat programmatic business. With regard to the acquisition pricing environment, the last quarter of initial cap rate of 7% It's approximately 40 basis points wider than the Q4 of 2022. As I mentioned during the February call, we were seeing cap rates steadily increase.

Speaker 1

But now as we sit here at the beginning of May, the cap rate increases are starting to plateau some. What I mean, the rate of increase is definitely slowing down. So I'm not expecting another 40 basis points for the Q2 of 2023. This is resulting on NN and N feeling that cap rates are starting to hit Glass dealing, assuming the macroeconomic environment settles down. During the quarter, we also sold 6 properties that generated nearly $12,000,000 of proceeds to be reinvested in new acquisitions.

Speaker 1

The dispositions consisted of 3 vacant assets and 3 income producing assets at a 6.6% cap rate. I do expect disposition activity to be greater in the Q2, and we are keeping our disposition guidance unchanged for the year. As I finish up and to remain consistent as past calls, Kevin and his team keep the balance sheet rock solid. We ended the Q1 with $209,000,000 out on our $1,100,000,000 line of credit, no material debt maturities until 2024. Thus, NNN is in terrific position to fund the remaining of our 2023 acquisition guidance.

Speaker 1

In summary, occupancy rate, leasing activity, The relationship based sale leaseback acquisition volume, we believe, once again validated our consistent long term strategy of acquiring well located parcels Leased to strong regional and national operators at reasonable rents, while maintaining a strong and flexible balance sheet. As I stated earlier, NNN is in solid footing as we are a quarter into 2023. With that, let me turn the call over to Kevin for more color and detail on our quarterly numbers.

Speaker 2

Okay, Steve. Thank you. And as usual, I'll start with a cautionary statement. We will make certain statements that may be considered to be forward looking statements under Federal Securities Law, the company's actual future results may differ significantly from the matters discussed in these forward looking statements, and we may not Please revisions to these forward looking statements to reflect changes after the statements were made. Factors and risks that could

Speaker 1

Okay. With that out of

Speaker 2

the way, headlines from this morning's press release report quarterly core FFO results of $0.80 per share for the Q1 of and that was flat with prior Q4 results. Today, we also reported that AFFO Per share was $0.82 per share for the Q1 and that's also up $0.03 per share or 3.8 percent over Q1 2022 results. As can be seen in the footnote on Page 1 of the press release as well as the detailed deferred rent repayment schedule on Page 13. The accrual basis deferred rent repayments have now been Virtually fully repaid and will not create any real noise in our AFFO number going forward. The scheduled cash basis deferred rent repayments continue to taper off materially in 2023 as can be seen again in the details provided on Page 13 of the press release.

Speaker 2

And that slowdown produces About a $5,800,000 or $0.03 per share headwind for the full year, which we obviously previously, I should It's noted and is baked into our 2023 guidance. One last note on Q1 results, we did receive $1,700,000 of lease Termination income, and that's higher than normal and compares with $1,000,000 in Q1 of 2022. But overall, good quarter in line with our expectations. Moving on, our AFFO dividend Payout ratio for the Q1 of 2023 was approximately 67%. That created approximately $49,000,000 of Free cash flow, that's after the payment of all expenses and dividends for the quarter.

Speaker 2

This free cash Flow funded 31% of our total acquisitions in the Q1 and that's about half of the equity needed for those acquisitions. Assuming we run a balance sheet at roughly 60% equity and 40% debt on a gross book value basis. Occupancy was 99.4 percent as Steve mentioned at quarter end and that's flat with year end of 2022. G and A expense was $12,250,000 for the quarter and that represents about 6% of revenues, But our midpoint guidance for this line item is still $44,000,000 for the full year 2023, which would put G and A closer to about 5.5 percent of revenues for the year. We ended the quarter with $782,000,000 of annual base rent in place for all leases as of March 31, 2023.

Speaker 2

Today, we did not change our 2023 guidance, which we introduced in February. 1st quarter results might suggest we have the opportunity to be at the higher end of the guidance range, but we will revisit any guidance changes when We report 2nd quarter results. The 2023 guidance and the key supporting assumptions are on Page 7 of today's press release. Switching over to the balance sheet, we maintain a good leverage and liquidity profile of roughly $900,000,000 of liquidity. The Q1 was fairly quiet in terms of capital markets activity.

Speaker 2

We issued $17,000,000 of equity in the Q1 executing Trade is around $46 per share level. After a few years of nearly no usage of our $1,100,000,000 bank Line of credit, we did begin to use it a bit in 2023 and that's was a part of our plan to navigate This is Rockier interest rate and capital market environment. Our weighted average debt maturity is about 13 years, including that bank line. All of our debt outstanding is fixed rate with the exception of that the $209,000,000 on our bank line, which represents about 5% of our total debt. A couple of metrics.

Speaker 2

Net debt to gross book assets was 40.4%, which is flat with year end. Net debt to EBITDA was 5.3 times at March 31. Interest coverage and fixed charge coverage was 4.7 times for the Q1 of 2023. So, we're in very good shape to navigate the elevated economic and capital market uncertainties and to continue to grow per share results, which we view as the primary measure of success. And with that, we will open it up to any questions.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. Our first question is coming from Spenser Allaway

Speaker 3

Thank you. You mentioned in your prepared remarks that the rate of cap rate increases have load, but can you just comment broadly on the different retail industries? Or are there any segments that stand out as continuing to have a wider bid ask spread? So Cap rates haven't moved as quickly and then to the contrary, any industries that have seen cap rates move faster?

Speaker 1

Yes. How are you doing, Spencer? Yes, the cap rates for the second half of last year, you saw slowly you're increasing at a pretty good Cliff. And what we're finding is the acquisitions in the second quarter and now you specifically asked what segments. Just think of whatever our portfolio is, that's the segments I'm really speaking of.

Speaker 1

If it's QSR, convenience store, auto service specifically, where we've done the most volume recently. And the large regional operators, non investment grade tenants. But yes, we're seeing a little bit of a plateau in the cap rates. They're acceptable cap rates, but we picked up that 40 basis points. I'm kind of thinking more in the range of 20, 30 basis points for the Q2.

Speaker 1

And then as we move out into Q3, it's a little bit too early on the pricing. But assuming the economy stays where it is, I think we're kind of getting near the top of it right now currently. Okay.

Speaker 3

That's helpful. And then the cap rates on the dispositions, those are pretty low for the Q2 in a row. Is Is there anything unique here driving that lower prior quarters? And is there any reason to think that, that could continue on future dispositions this year?

Speaker 1

The dispositions, we're not changing our guidance for 2023. I'm expecting to hit that guidance range. It was a more of a timing issue lower in the Q4 and the Q1, But the stars are starting to align where I'm expecting the 2nd quarter to pick up pace a little bit. As far as our dispositions this quarter, again, 3 vacancies and the 6.6% cap rate was a result of really 2 defensive sales, Meaning, one was a dark bouquets rent asset we sold, and the other was an obsolete, I'll call it a gas station, not a convenience store. And then the third one was an opportunistic sale where somebody liked the property more than we did.

Speaker 3

Okay. Thank you, guys.

Operator

Our next question is coming from Joshua Stenelain with Bank of America. You may proceed.

Speaker 4

Hey, guys. It's Josh Ederlein here. Could you remind us what the bad debt amount is assumed in guidance and how the Bed Bath and Beyond BK falls within that range?

Speaker 2

Yes, sure. This is Kevin. Yes, so we assumed in our guidance as we have for a number of years, 100 basis points of rent loss in our guidance, and didn't really use any of that in the Q1. And as it specifically relates to Bed Bath and Beyond, Our stores have not been closed or on the rejection list. And so We anticipate they will continue to pay rent up until that changes, if and when that changes.

Speaker 2

So at the moment, we're not experiencing Any notable level of bad debt at this point.

Speaker 4

Okay. Interesting. So they're not On the closure list? Correct.

Speaker 2

Yes, they've announced, I think, 480 total stores, 360 Bed Bath, 100 and 20 Buy Buy Baby and our stores are not on that list.

Speaker 4

Okay. Okay. Good color. And then I think just reading the 10 Q that came out this morning, there's another tenant in bankruptcy. I guess, could you Update us on that tenant, the assets and then maybe what the trends are compared to the market?

Speaker 2

Yes. So we really only have 2 in bankruptcy. 1 is Bed Bath, which we talked about and the other is Regal Cinema, which we've talked about in the past, which is just one property and we'll see where that goes. They're still paying rent and but We'll negotiate that as that goes along, whether that survives or does not survive, well, time will fail. But very small in the scheme of things.

Speaker 4

Okay. Appreciate that. Thank you, guys.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from Eric Wolf with Citi. You may proceed.

Speaker 5

Thanks. Good morning. Just starting with the guidance question, what Takes you sort of from that head run rate of $0.82 in the Q1 down to $0.80 for the rest of the year. I think you brought up Some lease termination income, but it would seem like there's something else that gets you down there other than the lease termination income?

Speaker 2

Yes, nothing really. I mean, I think, as I noted in my prepared remarks, we're clearly tracking for the high end of our guidance range. And it was a little bit of a discussion or thought process here internally and whether we would Think about revisiting our guidance, but we're just kind of measured and delivered kind of people. And so We deferred that to the Q2. I did note, like I say, yes, to your point, there's a penny of Of unusual one time kind of income, lease term income in the Q1 that helped results.

Speaker 2

And so we're Not expecting that to continue. But yes, we like where we stand and hopefully with time, we'll be able to let the guidance Drift higher, which has occurred from time to time over the years. But yes, that's just the way we went at it this time.

Speaker 5

Okay. And then you mentioned that cap rates are hitting the glass ceiling around 7%, although I think you said that I'd expand about 20, 30 basis points further. But just curious at that level, sort of call it the low 7s type cap rate, How are you feeling about your ability to create value at that level given your cost of capital? I noticed that you didn't raise Which on your ATM in the Q1, but maybe that was just more timing related?

Speaker 1

Yes. I'll take that on the first part of the talking about Cap rates hitting the glass ceiling. Yes, no, we're expecting the 2nd quarter to expand off our 7% cap rate and kind of what I said in the opening remarks. 3rd quarter is a little bit too early, but we're going to we'll deploy money at that 7 quarter, 7 3 range, and Kevin can talk about kind of relates to our cost of capital.

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean and we've talked about this Over the years, how we think about our cost of capital, I won't go into all the details at the moment, but it's in Our pitch book and we try to burden our cost of equity today at around 8.5% kind of cost. For purposes of deploying capital, that's kind of return hurdle we've set up internally as we think about deploying capital into new investments. So what that ends up producing is a weighted average cost of capital, including debt in the low 7s. So we feel like today that's what we need to earn to generate the sufficient and appropriate return For NNN shareholders.

Speaker 2

And so other people take different views around their cost of equity and all that kind of thing. But like I said, I won't go into all the details there. But the good news is for us and that's why I kind of highlighted Our free cash flow funded half of our equity need, if you will, in the Q1 just from operations. And so we really have a in terms of raising additional capital and that's before property dispositions, which would be another 10%, 15% of our acquisition fund equity funding for acquisitions. And so at the end of the day, we need precious little New equity capital to kind of on a cash flow basis to kind of run the or achieve the guidance acquisition guidance we're thinking of for the year.

Speaker 2

Having said that, the free cash flow we generated, the property disposition proceeds, at our mines, We continue we burden that at 8.5% cost as well. It's not free cash flow. It costs 8.5%. If we can't earn that kind of return on equity, then we probably are doing a disservice in our opinion to shareholders and we might should Send it back to shareholders if we don't think it has a sufficient kind of cost to it. And so That's just the way we think about it.

Speaker 2

Like I say, it's a little different than I think a lot of folks, but I think it's helped us being a little more disciplined Over the years and we like that approach.

Speaker 5

Got it. Thanks for the detail.

Operator

Our next question is coming from Rob Stevenson with Janney. You may proceed.

Speaker 6

Good morning, guys. Steve, back to the cap rate commentary that you were making before, how much does that differ, the movement between sale leasebacks versus the one off and Small portfolios that may be more sensitive to all these issues with the banks these days?

Speaker 1

So Rob, good question. You know we don't play in what we call the 1031 market where there's the one off. I mean we have a dedicated acquisition Guys, that's always trying to find the diamond in the rough. But as day to day operations, we do the sale leaseback. The sale leaseback market, The sophisticated clients have understood the capital markets or just the overall lending environment is a little more difficult for the middle market.

Speaker 1

So they've migrated to the sale leaseback, and they've allowed for the cap rate expansion. The tenthirty one market, whether there's even more Competition, if it's just doing the 10/31 exchanges or just there's more cash buyers, so they're not as sensitive to the bank lending market currently. So those cap rates haven't moved quite as much. Now all that being said, If you played in the investment grade market and you were buying those deals that you were buying at high 4s, low 5s, You've seen a significant cap rate movement because they started off so low, historically in the last couple of years. But sale leaseback market, we're still seeing an increase for the Q2, just not as fast of a rate.

Speaker 6

Okay. And how deep is that buyer pool today? I mean, if the seller doesn't like the price that you Give them they have 25 guys behind you, willing to do that price? Or is that Buyer pool for those sale leaseback transactions sort of thinned out as well given rates and other issues?

Speaker 1

Kind of the same story line. I've been in the business here at NNN REIT for 20 years, And we've been highly competitive market from day 1. Just the names have changed over the course of the years. Yes. There's a few less buyers in the market currently that relied on the kind of secured loans, but it's still highly competitive.

Speaker 1

Nobody is stealing assets. It's market pricing currently. If somebody doesn't like my pricing, there's somebody right behind me that's willing to do it.

Speaker 6

Okay. That's helpful. And then Kevin, given all that's gone on with the bank term loan market as well as interest rate hedge pricing, Where is your best debt access today? And what is that costing you today?

Speaker 2

Rob, it's funny today, everything pretty much costs the same roughly or at least in the scheme of things. And so bank lines are close to 5.5, 10 year debt is close to 5.5, and 30 year debt is not a whole lot more than that. And so Today, it's really any decision around the term of debt you might be using or issuing It's a bit of a bet on where rates will be 2 years or 4 years from now. And so, like I said, We chopped a lot of wood on long term debt in prior years, particularly in 2021 and pushed our weighted average debt maturity pretty far out and for the last several years really have not used our bank line. So we've our approach has been to pivot somewhat to use our bank line, which has been virtually unused.

Speaker 2

We have the flexibility to do that and let this interest rate cycle play out a bit and see where rates go, call it, a year from now, and make a maybe a longer term bet on Interest rate direction. And so that's the way we're kind of playing it at the moment. And having said that, I'll say, A, We don't typically we don't give guidance on our capital markets activity. And b, I reserve the right to change my mind. Hopefully, I've been sufficiently elusive.

Speaker 6

Okay, fair enough. It's helpful.

Speaker 1

Thank you, guys. Appreciate the time.

Speaker 4

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from Wes Golladay with Baird. You may proceed.

Speaker 7

Good morning, everyone. Are you seeing any signs that the tenants will pause expansion due to the macro uncertainty?

Speaker 1

Say that again, Wes. Kind of broke up.

Speaker 7

Are you seeing any signs that your current tenant roster, the ones that you're growing with will pause their Expansion plans due to the macro uncertainty?

Speaker 1

I think what we're seeing out there right now, our development pipeline is Really high compared to historical basis. So we're not seeing a slowdown as far as them picking and choosing Expansion as far as individual sites, what we're seeing is and it's more not really the economic uncertainty of their customer, It's more of the debt lending side of things that the M and A activity we're seeing slow down. There's not many doubles or home runs in M and A market that we're seeing in our tenants are picking up. It's kind of more base hits where they're doing 1 or 2 site bolt on acquisitions. Now what we're afforded the luxury is that we don't need the home runs here at NNN.

Speaker 1

The pool that we are shopping at It's plenty big for us to hit our targets.

Speaker 7

Okay. And then Kevin, I want to go back to your comments about the how you view your weighted average cost of capital. I think you said it was in the low 7s and you're currently where you're buying. Have you historically tried to target a spread over that? Or do you just view that, hey, we're buying better quality and the overall quality mix It's being transacted at our weighted average cost capital, and that's Yes.

Speaker 2

And I know I'm swimming upstream on this because that's the vernacular of Our industry is to think about a spread above your cost of capital. But I think the way a lot of folks get to a spread above their cost of capital is they just Take a low view as to what they what kind of return on equity hurdle that they need to meet. So and so in our pitch book, we use that example. If you think your cost of equity is 5.5%, to pick a number, then you come out with a weighted average cost Capital today close to 5.5%, but that's not far from that. And so you think your cost of capital is very cheap.

Speaker 2

We again, this is not we divorced sourcing capital from deploying capital. And look, I understand those two things get connected eventually. But We try to layer on a level of extra discipline, if you will, of burdening our cost of equity For purposes of deploying capital at about 8.5% cost. And if you fully burden your Cost of equity, you don't really need a spread above that because you're earning enough. You're justifying that's what the hurdle rates are for, Is to say what do we need to earn to sufficiently compensate NNN shareholders.

Speaker 2

And So we have to answer your question, we typically have not had a big spread above our cost Capital, but it's been that way because we burden our equity at a higher rate than most other companies do, We've set that hurdle there, and I think it leads to the better outcomes in the long run. In the past, call it, 2 years ago, when the world was awash with money, we've burdened our cost of equity at about 8% And our cost of debt was a whole lot lower and our weighted average cost of capital in our minds was about 6% level. That's what we That was the return requirement for NNM shareholder then. And so you didn't see us do Virtually any sub-six cap rate deals, call it, 2 years ago. And now The world's changed, interest rates are up.

Speaker 2

We've raised our return on equity hurdle. And so now we're targeting And we think that fully and sufficiently compensates our shareholders. And again, this is for purposes of deploying capital. When it comes to sourcing capital, we really take a little bit different view and we And we've been doing this for kind of consistently for a long time, but we do go about it a little differently. And so we never really get into The vernacular of a spread over our cost of capital because we really we put an extra burden on our equity Return hurdles that I think compensates for that.

Speaker 2

So anyway, sorry, that was a long winded answer to your question.

Speaker 7

No, I appreciate it. Thanks for the detailed answer, Kevin.

Operator

Our next question is coming from John Massocca with Ladenburg Thalmann. You may proceed.

Speaker 8

Good morning.

Speaker 2

Good morning. Maybe building

Speaker 8

a little on Wes' first question, as you kind of think about what your tenants are using New dollars you're investing with them for what's kind of the broad breakdown between Expansion and maybe refinancing?

Speaker 1

It's definitely skewed towards expansion currently. Our tenants haven't it's still early We're a year into it that we're not seeing our tenants having to refinance debt. Most of our tenants, it's a business model decision To do sale leaseback financing, they believe in not owning real estate because they understand they can take that equity, put it into operations and then make higher margin selling service or a good that they're selling opposed to the increased value of real estate. So we don't do a lot of refinancing. Historically, we've done a lot of M and A financing and bolt on acquisitions and new store development It's the vast majority of where we deploy capital.

Speaker 8

Okay. And then you talked about it a little bit in terms of Bed, Bath and beyond, maybe more generally, what's the demand like out there for vacant assets, vacant boxes, etcetera?

Speaker 1

So out of the 20 current vacant assets that we have, we have about activity around a little over half of those assets right now, Which is a little bit my surprise, John, how much activity we've had because typically when it's a vacant asset, it's not our best real estate in the portfolio. We don't get that back. But yes, there's definitely some movement of the smaller regional or even the mom and pop operators taking our vacant

Speaker 8

And I guess, I mean, how does that activity number compared to pre pandemic or earlier years?

Speaker 1

It's definitely elevated right now that we're seeing more activity with our vacant. 1st and foremost, we always try to re lease our vacant. But after a certain amount of time, it's not realistic to hold on to vacancies. You just got the overhead drag, and we'd rather just sell them, even though it might not be top dollar and then redeploy that money accretively into acquisitions.

Speaker 8

Okay. That's it for me. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thanks. Thank you. It appears we have reached the end of our question and answer session. So I will now turn the call back over to Mr. Horn for closing remarks.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Ali. NNN is in a great position here heading into the Q2. I look forward to it. Thanks for joining us this morning and look forward to seeing many of you in person in the upcoming conference season, specifically ICSC and NAREIT.

Operator

And we thank you for your participation.

Speaker 1

Thanks.

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