NASDAQ:SCVL Shoe Carnival Q1 2024 Earnings Report $17.16 -0.20 (-1.17%) As of 11:44 AM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Shoe Carnival EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.60Consensus EPS $0.72Beat/MissMissed by -$0.12One Year Ago EPSN/AShoe Carnival Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$281.18 millionExpected Revenue$292.20 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$11.02 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AShoe Carnival Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2024Date5/24/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateWednesday, May 24, 2023Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsShoe Carnival's Q1 2026 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 22, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 9:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptQuarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Shoe Carnival Q1 2024 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 24, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 5 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to Shoe Carnival Inc. Fiscal Year 2023 First Quarter Earnings Call. Today's conference is being recorded. It is also being broadcast via webcast. Any reproduction or rebroadcast of any portion of this call is expressly prohibited. Operator00:00:18Management's remarks may contain forward looking statements that involve a number of risk factors. These risk factors could cause The company's actual results to be materially different from those projected in such statements. Forward looking statements should also be considered in conjunction with a discussion of risk factors included in the company's SEC filings and today's earnings press release. Investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward looking statements, which speak only as of today's date. The company disclaims any obligation to update any of the risk factors or to publicly announce Any revisions to the forward looking statements discussed on today's conference call or contained in today's press release to reflect future events or developments. Operator00:01:07I'll now turn the conference over to Mr. Mark Warden, President and CEO of Shoe Carnival for opening remarks. Mr. Warden, you may begin. Speaker 100:01:17Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for Shoe Carnival's Q1 2023 earnings conference call. Joining me on today's call are Carl Chabetta, Chief Merchandising Officer and Eric Ast, our new Chief Financial Officer. Eric joined the company a few weeks ago. We are excited to have him on the team and to engage with the investment community ahead. Let me start out today saying that Q1 was a challenging quarter. Speaker 100:01:42While we continue to make significant progress against our long term strategies and achieved many important milestones. We saw softer than expected consumer trends develop in March April And unseasonable weather persists throughout quarter end. The biggest headwinds that our customer faced in Q1 were Persistent inflation across everyday expenses they need to spend on, interest rates continuing to climb and unexpectedly federal tax refunds Ended the quarter with a nearly 10% reduction versus the prior year. Historically, our traffic and sales surge When our customer receives their annual tax refund. This year, the reduced tax refund amounts did not generate traffic levels at prior year. Speaker 100:02:29These headwinds resulted in store traffic declining approximately 10% versus prior year. What we saw was a segment of customers from lower income households who had stretched disposable income, They delayed their shopping trips for footwear, apparel and accessories. Furthermore, spring weather did not improve Speaker 200:02:53in the second half of Speaker 100:02:54the quarter as unseasonably cold wet conditions persisted across most of our markets. This resulted in a sandals season that did not meaningfully start during March or April. All combined, Q1 sales and earnings We see a pathway to deliver the low end of our original annual guidance if economic conditions improve this summer. However, we do not have clear visibility to when the economic landscape will turn positive. As such, we are reducing our annual sales and our profit guidance to reflect the short term economic uncertainty. Speaker 100:03:34Eric will review the updated guidance shortly. Despite the challenging economic backdrop, I'm incredibly thankful For nearly 6,000 team members' commitment to deliver the preferred footwear shopping experience. Their focus on advancing our long term strategies led to many wins and has us in a strong financial and operational position to accelerate profitable growth as soon as We have visibility to the economic landscape improvement. I will now provide an overview of the company's key strategic progress and results of the quarter. First, the team that I'm most energized about is how fast we grew our loyal customer base this quarter. Speaker 100:04:17Customer membership surged To a record $32,700,000 atquarterendgrowth of 12% versus the prior year. This is the fastest expansion of members Any quarter over the last 3 years. Although a segment of customers are currently not in a strong buying position, They're still engaging actively with retailers they love and making decisions on where they will shop for footwear when economic conditions improve. Simply put, more and more customers every day are picking up. Our CRM platform has now reached a meaningful scale and has advanced capabilities to engage with the American footwear shoppers wherever and whenever they choose. Speaker 100:05:00We now engage ongoing with approximately 1 out of every 8 American adults, up nearly 65% from just 5 years ago. Our commitment to providing this group the preferred family footwear shopping experience has customers rapidly choosing to become Part of our Shoe Perks customer loyalty program. With this large scale customer reach, 70% of our sales now come from our loyalty members at a very efficient cost to engage. We continue to see this a core advantage of our company and are confident We will keep growing our customer base this year and in the years ahead. 2nd, we continue to deliver gross profit margins of over 35% for the 9th consecutive quarter. Speaker 100:05:48Over the last few years, we have sustainably transformed our margins From among the lowest tier in our industry to the top tier. We've done so by leveraging our deep customer relationship management capabilities and analytics To engage profitably with our customers, to provide the freshest in demand products they want at the right value and to deliver the customer the preferred shopping experience. As a benchmark, the 35% gross profit achieved this quarter Is growth of over 500 basis points from just 4 years ago. Our customer sales conversion climbed this quarter to the highest level in nearly 2 years. The customer that is ready to make a footwear shopping trip in this challenging economy Finding the brand and shopping experience they love at Shoe Carnival and Shoe Station Stores. Speaker 100:06:39Our compelling assortments At the right value for our target customers, generated not only strong margins and conversion growth, but resulted in yet another quarter Market Share Growth for our company. Given the current economic landscape, we have prioritized reducing our inventory levels, Sustaining healthy margins and building even stronger financial position for future growth, while also providing our customers The freshest products for the remainder of 2023. Progress is encouraging on all fronts and Karl and Eric will elaborate more shortly. Here are the headlines. We ended 2022 with inventory up $105,000,000 versus the prior year, With plans in place with our vendor partners to right size this level rapidly towards 2023. Speaker 100:07:31I'm so pleased with the progress made already As we ended Q1 with approximately $45,000,000 more inventory versus prior year, chipping away about $60,000,000 during the quarter. Importantly, we are not reducing inventory levels by dumping product in the market nor drastically eroding margins. The hard work on this inventory reduction topic is complete. Receipts and inventory flows are updated. We continue to have our inventory fresh With no material aged inventory concerns. Speaker 100:08:03I can share we remain confidently on track for inventory $40,000,000 below prior year inventory by year end. Our merchant team has done an excellent job managing the balance of freshness, Margin delivery and inventory levels, as always demonstrating that, along with our partners, are best in class. Carl will elaborate on inventory in a moment. Our athletic inventory position has also materially improved versus last year. As you will recall, vendor supply chain issues disrupted our on hand inventory for back to school 2022, We disappointed some of our athletic shoppers last year. Speaker 100:08:52This year, we have the athletic brand assortment, depth And freshness in hand that we did not have last year. While I'm not saying the customer economic issues driving soft traffic will be solved in Q2, I do see we are in a position to continue to grab athletic market share this year, convert at very high levels and maintain our healthy gross profits In this declining market environment we face. Our store development plans continue to advance with success. Issued Carnival fleet modernization continues to roll out rapidly and is on track for approximately 60% of the chain to be completed fiscal end. We see this as a key contributor to our sales conversion growing and a differentiator to our customers who are rewarding us with continued market share growth. Speaker 100:09:42New Shoe Station store growth continues to deliver on our expectations. 1 of our big wins has been the market entry into Birmingham, Alabama, Grand opening 2 stores over the past 6 months. These stores are pacing to be among the strongest in the Shoe Station fleet and in the top tier of stores across the entire corporation. We're seeing great success as we bring our new shoe station prototype store to customers in adjacent markets. These expansion wins give us confidence to advance methodically on our road map to reach 100 Stores for Shoe Station and Over 500 Stores for the Corporation in 2028. Speaker 100:10:22We are seeing our Shoe Station banner show positive signs over the past weeks. With Shoe Station's more affluent customer base, In addition to our CRM platform and the launch of the online platform, Shoe Station is outperforming the overall company. Sales for quarter 1 declined single digits compared to Shoe Carnival low double digit. However, over the past few weeks, The Shoe Station banner is building momentum and growing mid to high singles. We continue to see Shoe Station capable of growing in the quarters ahead despite the economic headwinds discussed. Speaker 100:10:58The bottom line for the quarter is that customer traffic was disappointing Due to unfavorable near term macro conditions and unseasonable weather. Yes, our foundations were stronger than ever. Customer growth accelerated to a record level. Gross margin sustained at very high levels. Customer conversion surged on fresh product, Great value and experiences. Speaker 100:11:21Inventory levels are rapidly progressing in line and athletic positions are where we want for back to school season ahead. We're focused on executing our winning strategic plans on the path to become a multibillion dollar retailer in 2028 and provided our shareholders with the top tier returns in our sector. I am confident in the American consumer resilience I would now like to ask Carl to provide further color on the quarter and year ahead. Carl? Speaker 200:11:56Thank you, Mark. As highlighted, today's Q1 performance In addition, the cool weather we called out in March continued the remainder of the quarter. We anticipated that the weather will have normalized the back half of the quarter, but unfortunately that number materialized. As a result, sales in seasonal categories did not hit expectations and contributed to the shortfall. With that said, We continue to focus on driving our strategic objectives, which include connecting with our consumers using our CRM program to maximize sales, Reducing our inventory throughout the year and continuing to deliver our transformational product margin. Speaker 200:12:485 categories: 1st quarter comp sales in women's non athletic footwear were down low double digits with dress and boots Being down over 20%. Sales in women's sands were negatively affected by the late arrival of spring And comp sales were down high teens in the category. Sport and casuals were the bright spot with sport down low single digit, Casuals increased mid single digits. Men's non athletic comps were also down low double digits with casuals down mid singles. Men's dress was down low double digits and boots down high teens. Speaker 200:13:28Children's comp sales were down high singles With non athletic flat and athletic down low teens, comp sales in adult athletic footwear were down low teens. Due to the late start of new seasonal selling and enhanced promotional activity in the marketplace, merchandise margins were down. However, remained up 7 50 basis points over pre pandemic leverage. This further demonstrates the transformation of our promotional strategy. Our outstanding team of merchants continues to collaborate closely with our vendor partners ensuring The appropriate flow of products to our stores. Speaker 200:14:07Our best in class vendor relationships are enabling us to adjust to the consumer demand. The result will see inventories reducing as we move through the year. We entered the 1st quarter with inventory up 36.9% versus the previous year. 1st quarter ending inventory was up 13% versus 2022. We expect as we end the 3rd quarter inventory levels below 2022 levels and we anticipate we will finish the year at the previously stated Level approximately $40,000,000,000 below fiscal 2022 ending inventory. Speaker 200:14:46Currently, our inventory content is clean. We see no reason to aggressively promote distressed inventory to achieve our goals. As we move into the back to school timeframe, We will be in a much better inventory position versus 2022 with the most desirable key athletic brands. This will position us to maximize the sales opportunity during this critical selling season. Diligently managing our inventory flow We'll ensure our stores are stocked with the most desired product offerings that are time appropriate as we move through the Q2 and the balance of fiscal 2023. Speaker 200:15:24This reduction will further support our store modernization as well as our aggressive store growth plans. Our best in class CRM program continues to drive loyal customer growth. We have seen success engaging with our loyal consumers with targeted offers. This program continues to drive sales and plays a key role in maximizing margins while reducing inventory levels. Using this data enables us to communicate to our over 30,000,000, 32,000,000 consumers and continues to maximize sales opportunities Without reducing margins below expectations. Speaker 200:16:01With that, I will turn the call over to Eric for a review of our financials. Eric? Speaker 300:16:06Thank you, Carl, and good morning, everyone. First, I joined Shoe Carnival in late April and I'm appreciative of the collective team and how they have In the transition from Carrie Jackson, the previous CFO. Carrie, as you know, was here 35 years and recently retired. I am looking forward to continuing the good work you started and working with the team at Shoe Carnival. Having worked over 30 years of most of that time in retail, I look forward to sharing experiences and collaborating with the Shoe Carnival team. Speaker 300:16:39The company has long term plans to grow to over 500 stores And become a multibillion dollar retailer in 2028, and I am excited to be a part of it. Now moving to the financial results. In my remarks, I will compare our Q1 results with the Q1 of 2022, noting comparison to 2019 if needed for context. Starting with revenues, our net sales in Q1 were 281,200,000 This is down 11.4% on a comp decline of 11.9% versus prior year. To offer some perspective, While representing a larger than expected decline, the sales were the 3rd highest first quarter in company history. Speaker 300:17:26The comp decline was driven by approximately 10% reduction in traffic. Our consumers are being negatively impacted by inflation and lower tax refunds. Lack of normal seasonal weather shifts driven by cooler weather patterns was also a contributing negative factor, Resulting in spring seasonal product down by over 20% to prior year. Shoe Station banner sales Came in at a mid single digit decline versus Shoe Station banner sales at a low double digit decline. Q1 gross profit margin was 35%, reflecting the 9th consecutive quarter at or exceeding 35%. Speaker 300:18:10The margin reflects continued advancement in our CRM capabilities, resulting in high customer conversion and increased loyalty members as Mark discussed. The gross margin represents an increase of over 500 basis points compared to pre CRM implementation and pre pandemic in 2019. Compared to prior year, merchandise margins decreased 30 basis points, reflecting our promotional intensity. Buying, distribution and occupancy costs declined, however, were deleveraging by 20 basis points as a result of the sales declines. The buying distribution and occupancy expense reductions were primarily the result of the absence of the high distribution costs experienced in the prior year with a return to more normal levels this year. Speaker 300:19:04SG and A expense in Q1 Was $77,600,000 while essentially flat in cost to the prior year was deleveraging to 27.6% as a result of Overall, SG and A expenses were under plan with increases in depreciation associated with our store Modernization program and healthier costs, offset by reduced selling costs when compared to the prior year. Q1 operating income was $20,900,000 or 7.4 percent of sales. This is at the low end of our expectations. Net income for the Q1 of 2023 was 16,500,000 or $0.60 in diluted earnings per share. Although this was our 3rd highest Q1 diluted EPS with only 20222021 being higher, This was at the low end of our expectations. Speaker 300:20:03We closed out the quarter with inventory of $389,000,000 which was up approximately $45,000,000 compared to the prior year or 12.3% on a per store basis. The increased inventory reflects an improved athletic merchandise assortment for back to school shopping this year and the increase of $45,000,000 compares to $105,000,000 higher than the prior year just 3 months ago. After back to school shopping, we do expect inventory to be lower than last year and be approximately $40,000,000 lower by year end 2023 compared to year end 2022. We continue to have ample liquidity to fund our growth initiatives. At the end of Q1, we had total cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities of $44,000,000 and no outstanding debt. Speaker 300:20:58As of the end of 2022, the company has maintained no debt for the 18th consecutive year and continued funding its operations without debt through the Q1. During the quarter, there were no share repurchases. We currently have the full amount of $50,000,000 available for the share repurchase program. Given the Q1 results Driven by traffic declines and consumer trends, we now are updating our sales guidance for fiscal 2023 to down 3% to down 6%, compared to the prior range of down 2% to up 2%. We are expecting gross profit margin to be between 36% 37% versus prior guidance of approximately 37%. Speaker 300:21:45For the year, including the extra week, we are lowering our diluted EPS guidance to $3.60 to 3.85 from previous expectations of $396,000,000 to $420,000,000 In closing, allow me to share some initial observations about the There are headwinds upon the industry. We highlighted them macroeconomic conditions, Promotional intensity and higher inventory. However, I am encouraged about the company. We have no debt. We are producing product and gross margins that are up meaningfully in a transformative way versus pre pandemic periods. Speaker 300:22:26Plans are underway to reduce the inventory and are being implemented as evidenced by the current quarter reduction. The business has solid financial fundamentals to build and grow upon that can outlast an economic downturn. There is an ample growth opportunity for the business. I am glad I am here and look forward to working with the team and all of you. This does conclude our financial review. Speaker 300:22:53Now I would like to open the call up for questions. Operator00:22:57Thank you. One moment please for your first question. Your first question comes from the line of Mitch Kummetz with Seaport Research. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:23:20Yes. Thanks for taking my questions and I'd like to welcome Eric. Let me start with the guide. Can you update us on SG and A and either operating margin or EBIT for the year? There's nothing in the release and I didn't hear anything in your comments, but I think you previously had given guidance on those line items. Speaker 300:23:44Sure, Mitch, and thank you for that kind welcome. SG and A, as you know in our previous guidance, We called out approximately 25.6%. As we look through the balance of the year, We continue to look for cost management and as we look through operating income, you can see that our EPS does reflect That continued management. So the guidance that we would give is that Our percentages are going to be consistent with what we've provided in the original guidance. There will be some increased basis point changes possibly in the range of 30 basis points to 50 basis points. Speaker 300:24:32Regarding operating income, we've talked about the original guidance of 11.4%. Really, we're looking at a range of there is going to be some impacts to the operating income in the range of 40 to 100 basis points As a result of the sales decline. Speaker 400:24:53Got it. All right. Thanks for that. And then just looking at the revised Sales guidance, obviously, it came down for the year, but it looks like at least I can kind of back into Growth that's sort of flat to maybe up low single digits over the balance of the year on a year over year basis, which is obviously Better than what you achieved in the quarter. Can you just elaborate on why that is? Speaker 400:25:21Is that just That we're past tax refunds. You expect the weather to be more normal. I'm just kind of curious your assumptions around the consumer To kind of get to those numbers and also if there's any color you can kind of provide by quarter, I would guess that you're maybe most optimistic around 3Q, just given what you said around back to school and better athletic inventory, but maybe some more color there would be helpful. Speaker 200:25:45Hey, Mitch, it's Mark. Speaker 100:25:47Thanks for joining today. Yes, you got it right with those key elements. We see back to school being Significantly improved versus last year. As I shared on the call, our athletic inventory positions it's in hand, it's fresh And it's far superior to the supply chain disrupted back to the school we had last year. We think it's going to come in Q3, Mitch. Speaker 100:26:11We're still seeing The macro headwinds in Q2, but we believe our Q3 position is ready to go for back to school And that moderate as the year continues on, as inflation continues to get more and more in control. I think the second thing you talked about that is encouraging, and I talked briefly about it, as the weather has turned, Our Shoe Station business is getting some good momentum along with the new stores. Shoe Station, the dotcom going live, CRM going live, Yes, we're growing nicely as we progress into this Q2 and we see that continuing to accelerate as the year goes on. So we're really highlighting that we think Shoe Carnival's segment of customers that are really hit by the inflation, it's that small segment under a third of our That's the variability that we're just not sure yet when that customer is going to be healthier, which quarter that's going to turn. As soon as it does, we're in great shape to start accelerating growth. Speaker 400:27:18Got it. And then Carl, on sandals, I know there were challenges in the Quarter, I believe that Q2 is by far your largest stand alone quarter. What are you thinking there? Do you think there's pent up demand for the category? And how do you feel about Okay. Speaker 400:28:10Hopefully, you guys can hear me better now. The question has to do about sandals. I was asking Carl about sandals. Obviously, it didn't perform well in the Quarter, but I was curious if you feel like there's Q2 being your biggest quarter for sandals, Do you think there's pent up demand and how do you sort of expect that to play out? How are you planning that for the Q2, especially kind of working through whatever standalone inventory you have? Operator00:29:11I'm sorry, this is the operator. It Seems as though we're having some technical difficulties with the speaker line. We're Thank you for your patience, ladies and gentlemen. We will continue with Mitch Kummetz's question. Speaker 400:34:32So I don't know if you guys heard my question about sandals. It's really for Carl. I was just curious about your outlook for 2Q, that being your biggest Sandler quarter, wondering if you think there's any pent up demand just given the challenges in the Q1 and also how you're expecting to work through Your sandal inventory given the shortfall in Q1? Speaker 200:34:53Sure, Mitch. Thanks. We do believe Already see some movement on the sandal business as we have consistent warm weather that has hit a part of most of the Midwest. So we're encouraged by some very recent sandal business in the shoe particle business. Shoe station business, it actually started a bit earlier, pretty much, I believe, based on the geographics of that business And a higher income consumer that tends to shop earlier. Speaker 200:35:26In regards to the inventory, we have made the necessary adjustments As we move forward with our position on sandals based on Q1 results, and we anticipate ending the season In a better inventory, more reduced inventory position than we did last year. So we're confident we've got that business under control. Speaker 400:35:51All right. Thanks. I'll just get back in the queue. Operator00:36:07And there are no further questions at this time. I will turn the call back Sorry, we do have a follow-up from Mitch Kummetz. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:36:19Okay. I thought there'd be other people. So I guess my other question or one of my other questions was just on the BOGOs. You talked about the gross margin, obviously, it's down year over year, but still way up From 4 years ago, particularly on the merch margin side. I am curious, you guys still do BOGOs, but you do them very differently than before. Speaker 400:36:38Is there any way you can comment on The margin of the BOGOs, is there any way you can kind of isolate that and talk about how that's different from what it was 4 years ago? Speaker 200:36:51Sure, Ben. I'll take that. Any BOGO promotion that we run and we only do it a couple of times a On seasonal product that we have purchased at a very advantageous price. So they're planned in on selected items And the margin on them during BOGO actually is in line with the total company margin. And in fact, In some cases, it's March at accretion. Speaker 200:37:18So there are limited time, very targeted product and merchandise that was bought for that intent. Speaker 400:37:28And so how does that compare from like 4 years ago when it was more of an all store BOGO? I assume that those margins were Dilutive to the total, but I mean, have you seen like within kind of the BOGO piece, I mean, is like the margin 1,000 bps better than it was 4 years ago? Or is there any way you can, And sort of isolate how much that's improved and how much of that's kind of a story for the overall margin expansion of the business? Speaker 200:37:54Sure, Mitch. That is definitely the story. The BOGOs that we used to run, including the entire inventory, They were targeted and the margin was pretty much dead on about 1,000 basis points dilutive to the margin we run today On the very selected BOGO products. So that is a major factor in the trends to margins we've been producing. Speaker 400:38:20Got it. And then maybe one last for me. Just on back to school and athletic, can you Carl, can you speak to how much better The athletic inventory is versus last year. I don't know if you can kind of speak to it in percentage terms. And then just remind us of the athletic comparison that you're going up against for back to school. Speaker 400:38:42I assume it's a pretty easy comp. Speaker 200:38:46Yes. It is. The athletic inventory, if you go back historically, when you look to last year, Our athletic inventory was really hampered by supply chain. We received quite a few delays with processing Actually, late August into September and missed the back to school timeframe. In addition to that, We have many products that we purchased that frankly we never got. Speaker 200:39:18So from an athletic standpoint, I see A major improvement also in products, but In the quality of the brands and the quality of the products we have. We anticipate our athletic Inventory as we go into the back to school timeframe being up in the teens. But it's really that and the quality of the inventory that we have and the timing of the delivery of that inventory. Actually, ending July 15th and as we move through early part of August around 20%. And if I can give Speaker 400:40:06you one point. So if Speaker 100:40:08you look at comps last year, To remind you, Q2 was down 13.8% and it was really driven by 15% 20% declines in comp in June July during that period where our supply chain was really disrupted. So We see that as an opportunity with this great position Carl talked about to claw back, gain market share and have a Much more solid Q2 than we did last year. Speaker 400:40:38Okay. And then I guess maybe one last one for me. Just on the loyalty part, I know that Shoe Station is now plugged into Shoe Perks and has access to all of those loyalty members. What have you seen there? Have you seen some of those customers buying Product from Shoe Station, especially maybe some brands and some price points that they didn't have access to in the Shoe Carnival stores? Speaker 100:41:05We do. We see we have almost 2,000,000 people already have joined Shoe Perks on the Shoe Station side. I would see a great opportunity to grow that rapidly. We're just starting now to engage with them. And we are we're seeing them Buy purchases in different price tiers now that they can cross shop. Speaker 100:41:25We're seeing them Engage with different categories that they haven't had before. And importantly, we're seeing the opportunity to The Shoe Carnival Shoe Perks members are also being introduced to new products from the new brand too that aren't offered. This is a big opportunity For cross introducing over the quarters ahead and really fueling growth. Speaker 400:41:50All right. Thanks guys. Good luck. Thank you, Mitch. Operator00:41:56There are no further questions at this time. I will turn the call back to Mr. Mark Warden. Speaker 100:42:02Thank you all for joining us for today's call, and thank you for bearing with our technology struggles there for a moment. We look forward to talking to you all again as we get into the back to school season and have Q2 report. Operator00:42:18This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for joining us. 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There are 5 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to Shoe Carnival Inc. Fiscal Year 2023 First Quarter Earnings Call. Today's conference is being recorded. It is also being broadcast via webcast. Any reproduction or rebroadcast of any portion of this call is expressly prohibited. Operator00:00:18Management's remarks may contain forward looking statements that involve a number of risk factors. These risk factors could cause The company's actual results to be materially different from those projected in such statements. Forward looking statements should also be considered in conjunction with a discussion of risk factors included in the company's SEC filings and today's earnings press release. Investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward looking statements, which speak only as of today's date. The company disclaims any obligation to update any of the risk factors or to publicly announce Any revisions to the forward looking statements discussed on today's conference call or contained in today's press release to reflect future events or developments. Operator00:01:07I'll now turn the conference over to Mr. Mark Warden, President and CEO of Shoe Carnival for opening remarks. Mr. Warden, you may begin. Speaker 100:01:17Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for Shoe Carnival's Q1 2023 earnings conference call. Joining me on today's call are Carl Chabetta, Chief Merchandising Officer and Eric Ast, our new Chief Financial Officer. Eric joined the company a few weeks ago. We are excited to have him on the team and to engage with the investment community ahead. Let me start out today saying that Q1 was a challenging quarter. Speaker 100:01:42While we continue to make significant progress against our long term strategies and achieved many important milestones. We saw softer than expected consumer trends develop in March April And unseasonable weather persists throughout quarter end. The biggest headwinds that our customer faced in Q1 were Persistent inflation across everyday expenses they need to spend on, interest rates continuing to climb and unexpectedly federal tax refunds Ended the quarter with a nearly 10% reduction versus the prior year. Historically, our traffic and sales surge When our customer receives their annual tax refund. This year, the reduced tax refund amounts did not generate traffic levels at prior year. Speaker 100:02:29These headwinds resulted in store traffic declining approximately 10% versus prior year. What we saw was a segment of customers from lower income households who had stretched disposable income, They delayed their shopping trips for footwear, apparel and accessories. Furthermore, spring weather did not improve Speaker 200:02:53in the second half of Speaker 100:02:54the quarter as unseasonably cold wet conditions persisted across most of our markets. This resulted in a sandals season that did not meaningfully start during March or April. All combined, Q1 sales and earnings We see a pathway to deliver the low end of our original annual guidance if economic conditions improve this summer. However, we do not have clear visibility to when the economic landscape will turn positive. As such, we are reducing our annual sales and our profit guidance to reflect the short term economic uncertainty. Speaker 100:03:34Eric will review the updated guidance shortly. Despite the challenging economic backdrop, I'm incredibly thankful For nearly 6,000 team members' commitment to deliver the preferred footwear shopping experience. Their focus on advancing our long term strategies led to many wins and has us in a strong financial and operational position to accelerate profitable growth as soon as We have visibility to the economic landscape improvement. I will now provide an overview of the company's key strategic progress and results of the quarter. First, the team that I'm most energized about is how fast we grew our loyal customer base this quarter. Speaker 100:04:17Customer membership surged To a record $32,700,000 atquarterendgrowth of 12% versus the prior year. This is the fastest expansion of members Any quarter over the last 3 years. Although a segment of customers are currently not in a strong buying position, They're still engaging actively with retailers they love and making decisions on where they will shop for footwear when economic conditions improve. Simply put, more and more customers every day are picking up. Our CRM platform has now reached a meaningful scale and has advanced capabilities to engage with the American footwear shoppers wherever and whenever they choose. Speaker 100:05:00We now engage ongoing with approximately 1 out of every 8 American adults, up nearly 65% from just 5 years ago. Our commitment to providing this group the preferred family footwear shopping experience has customers rapidly choosing to become Part of our Shoe Perks customer loyalty program. With this large scale customer reach, 70% of our sales now come from our loyalty members at a very efficient cost to engage. We continue to see this a core advantage of our company and are confident We will keep growing our customer base this year and in the years ahead. 2nd, we continue to deliver gross profit margins of over 35% for the 9th consecutive quarter. Speaker 100:05:48Over the last few years, we have sustainably transformed our margins From among the lowest tier in our industry to the top tier. We've done so by leveraging our deep customer relationship management capabilities and analytics To engage profitably with our customers, to provide the freshest in demand products they want at the right value and to deliver the customer the preferred shopping experience. As a benchmark, the 35% gross profit achieved this quarter Is growth of over 500 basis points from just 4 years ago. Our customer sales conversion climbed this quarter to the highest level in nearly 2 years. The customer that is ready to make a footwear shopping trip in this challenging economy Finding the brand and shopping experience they love at Shoe Carnival and Shoe Station Stores. Speaker 100:06:39Our compelling assortments At the right value for our target customers, generated not only strong margins and conversion growth, but resulted in yet another quarter Market Share Growth for our company. Given the current economic landscape, we have prioritized reducing our inventory levels, Sustaining healthy margins and building even stronger financial position for future growth, while also providing our customers The freshest products for the remainder of 2023. Progress is encouraging on all fronts and Karl and Eric will elaborate more shortly. Here are the headlines. We ended 2022 with inventory up $105,000,000 versus the prior year, With plans in place with our vendor partners to right size this level rapidly towards 2023. Speaker 100:07:31I'm so pleased with the progress made already As we ended Q1 with approximately $45,000,000 more inventory versus prior year, chipping away about $60,000,000 during the quarter. Importantly, we are not reducing inventory levels by dumping product in the market nor drastically eroding margins. The hard work on this inventory reduction topic is complete. Receipts and inventory flows are updated. We continue to have our inventory fresh With no material aged inventory concerns. Speaker 100:08:03I can share we remain confidently on track for inventory $40,000,000 below prior year inventory by year end. Our merchant team has done an excellent job managing the balance of freshness, Margin delivery and inventory levels, as always demonstrating that, along with our partners, are best in class. Carl will elaborate on inventory in a moment. Our athletic inventory position has also materially improved versus last year. As you will recall, vendor supply chain issues disrupted our on hand inventory for back to school 2022, We disappointed some of our athletic shoppers last year. Speaker 100:08:52This year, we have the athletic brand assortment, depth And freshness in hand that we did not have last year. While I'm not saying the customer economic issues driving soft traffic will be solved in Q2, I do see we are in a position to continue to grab athletic market share this year, convert at very high levels and maintain our healthy gross profits In this declining market environment we face. Our store development plans continue to advance with success. Issued Carnival fleet modernization continues to roll out rapidly and is on track for approximately 60% of the chain to be completed fiscal end. We see this as a key contributor to our sales conversion growing and a differentiator to our customers who are rewarding us with continued market share growth. Speaker 100:09:42New Shoe Station store growth continues to deliver on our expectations. 1 of our big wins has been the market entry into Birmingham, Alabama, Grand opening 2 stores over the past 6 months. These stores are pacing to be among the strongest in the Shoe Station fleet and in the top tier of stores across the entire corporation. We're seeing great success as we bring our new shoe station prototype store to customers in adjacent markets. These expansion wins give us confidence to advance methodically on our road map to reach 100 Stores for Shoe Station and Over 500 Stores for the Corporation in 2028. Speaker 100:10:22We are seeing our Shoe Station banner show positive signs over the past weeks. With Shoe Station's more affluent customer base, In addition to our CRM platform and the launch of the online platform, Shoe Station is outperforming the overall company. Sales for quarter 1 declined single digits compared to Shoe Carnival low double digit. However, over the past few weeks, The Shoe Station banner is building momentum and growing mid to high singles. We continue to see Shoe Station capable of growing in the quarters ahead despite the economic headwinds discussed. Speaker 100:10:58The bottom line for the quarter is that customer traffic was disappointing Due to unfavorable near term macro conditions and unseasonable weather. Yes, our foundations were stronger than ever. Customer growth accelerated to a record level. Gross margin sustained at very high levels. Customer conversion surged on fresh product, Great value and experiences. Speaker 100:11:21Inventory levels are rapidly progressing in line and athletic positions are where we want for back to school season ahead. We're focused on executing our winning strategic plans on the path to become a multibillion dollar retailer in 2028 and provided our shareholders with the top tier returns in our sector. I am confident in the American consumer resilience I would now like to ask Carl to provide further color on the quarter and year ahead. Carl? Speaker 200:11:56Thank you, Mark. As highlighted, today's Q1 performance In addition, the cool weather we called out in March continued the remainder of the quarter. We anticipated that the weather will have normalized the back half of the quarter, but unfortunately that number materialized. As a result, sales in seasonal categories did not hit expectations and contributed to the shortfall. With that said, We continue to focus on driving our strategic objectives, which include connecting with our consumers using our CRM program to maximize sales, Reducing our inventory throughout the year and continuing to deliver our transformational product margin. Speaker 200:12:485 categories: 1st quarter comp sales in women's non athletic footwear were down low double digits with dress and boots Being down over 20%. Sales in women's sands were negatively affected by the late arrival of spring And comp sales were down high teens in the category. Sport and casuals were the bright spot with sport down low single digit, Casuals increased mid single digits. Men's non athletic comps were also down low double digits with casuals down mid singles. Men's dress was down low double digits and boots down high teens. Speaker 200:13:28Children's comp sales were down high singles With non athletic flat and athletic down low teens, comp sales in adult athletic footwear were down low teens. Due to the late start of new seasonal selling and enhanced promotional activity in the marketplace, merchandise margins were down. However, remained up 7 50 basis points over pre pandemic leverage. This further demonstrates the transformation of our promotional strategy. Our outstanding team of merchants continues to collaborate closely with our vendor partners ensuring The appropriate flow of products to our stores. Speaker 200:14:07Our best in class vendor relationships are enabling us to adjust to the consumer demand. The result will see inventories reducing as we move through the year. We entered the 1st quarter with inventory up 36.9% versus the previous year. 1st quarter ending inventory was up 13% versus 2022. We expect as we end the 3rd quarter inventory levels below 2022 levels and we anticipate we will finish the year at the previously stated Level approximately $40,000,000,000 below fiscal 2022 ending inventory. Speaker 200:14:46Currently, our inventory content is clean. We see no reason to aggressively promote distressed inventory to achieve our goals. As we move into the back to school timeframe, We will be in a much better inventory position versus 2022 with the most desirable key athletic brands. This will position us to maximize the sales opportunity during this critical selling season. Diligently managing our inventory flow We'll ensure our stores are stocked with the most desired product offerings that are time appropriate as we move through the Q2 and the balance of fiscal 2023. Speaker 200:15:24This reduction will further support our store modernization as well as our aggressive store growth plans. Our best in class CRM program continues to drive loyal customer growth. We have seen success engaging with our loyal consumers with targeted offers. This program continues to drive sales and plays a key role in maximizing margins while reducing inventory levels. Using this data enables us to communicate to our over 30,000,000, 32,000,000 consumers and continues to maximize sales opportunities Without reducing margins below expectations. Speaker 200:16:01With that, I will turn the call over to Eric for a review of our financials. Eric? Speaker 300:16:06Thank you, Carl, and good morning, everyone. First, I joined Shoe Carnival in late April and I'm appreciative of the collective team and how they have In the transition from Carrie Jackson, the previous CFO. Carrie, as you know, was here 35 years and recently retired. I am looking forward to continuing the good work you started and working with the team at Shoe Carnival. Having worked over 30 years of most of that time in retail, I look forward to sharing experiences and collaborating with the Shoe Carnival team. Speaker 300:16:39The company has long term plans to grow to over 500 stores And become a multibillion dollar retailer in 2028, and I am excited to be a part of it. Now moving to the financial results. In my remarks, I will compare our Q1 results with the Q1 of 2022, noting comparison to 2019 if needed for context. Starting with revenues, our net sales in Q1 were 281,200,000 This is down 11.4% on a comp decline of 11.9% versus prior year. To offer some perspective, While representing a larger than expected decline, the sales were the 3rd highest first quarter in company history. Speaker 300:17:26The comp decline was driven by approximately 10% reduction in traffic. Our consumers are being negatively impacted by inflation and lower tax refunds. Lack of normal seasonal weather shifts driven by cooler weather patterns was also a contributing negative factor, Resulting in spring seasonal product down by over 20% to prior year. Shoe Station banner sales Came in at a mid single digit decline versus Shoe Station banner sales at a low double digit decline. Q1 gross profit margin was 35%, reflecting the 9th consecutive quarter at or exceeding 35%. Speaker 300:18:10The margin reflects continued advancement in our CRM capabilities, resulting in high customer conversion and increased loyalty members as Mark discussed. The gross margin represents an increase of over 500 basis points compared to pre CRM implementation and pre pandemic in 2019. Compared to prior year, merchandise margins decreased 30 basis points, reflecting our promotional intensity. Buying, distribution and occupancy costs declined, however, were deleveraging by 20 basis points as a result of the sales declines. The buying distribution and occupancy expense reductions were primarily the result of the absence of the high distribution costs experienced in the prior year with a return to more normal levels this year. Speaker 300:19:04SG and A expense in Q1 Was $77,600,000 while essentially flat in cost to the prior year was deleveraging to 27.6% as a result of Overall, SG and A expenses were under plan with increases in depreciation associated with our store Modernization program and healthier costs, offset by reduced selling costs when compared to the prior year. Q1 operating income was $20,900,000 or 7.4 percent of sales. This is at the low end of our expectations. Net income for the Q1 of 2023 was 16,500,000 or $0.60 in diluted earnings per share. Although this was our 3rd highest Q1 diluted EPS with only 20222021 being higher, This was at the low end of our expectations. Speaker 300:20:03We closed out the quarter with inventory of $389,000,000 which was up approximately $45,000,000 compared to the prior year or 12.3% on a per store basis. The increased inventory reflects an improved athletic merchandise assortment for back to school shopping this year and the increase of $45,000,000 compares to $105,000,000 higher than the prior year just 3 months ago. After back to school shopping, we do expect inventory to be lower than last year and be approximately $40,000,000 lower by year end 2023 compared to year end 2022. We continue to have ample liquidity to fund our growth initiatives. At the end of Q1, we had total cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities of $44,000,000 and no outstanding debt. Speaker 300:20:58As of the end of 2022, the company has maintained no debt for the 18th consecutive year and continued funding its operations without debt through the Q1. During the quarter, there were no share repurchases. We currently have the full amount of $50,000,000 available for the share repurchase program. Given the Q1 results Driven by traffic declines and consumer trends, we now are updating our sales guidance for fiscal 2023 to down 3% to down 6%, compared to the prior range of down 2% to up 2%. We are expecting gross profit margin to be between 36% 37% versus prior guidance of approximately 37%. Speaker 300:21:45For the year, including the extra week, we are lowering our diluted EPS guidance to $3.60 to 3.85 from previous expectations of $396,000,000 to $420,000,000 In closing, allow me to share some initial observations about the There are headwinds upon the industry. We highlighted them macroeconomic conditions, Promotional intensity and higher inventory. However, I am encouraged about the company. We have no debt. We are producing product and gross margins that are up meaningfully in a transformative way versus pre pandemic periods. Speaker 300:22:26Plans are underway to reduce the inventory and are being implemented as evidenced by the current quarter reduction. The business has solid financial fundamentals to build and grow upon that can outlast an economic downturn. There is an ample growth opportunity for the business. I am glad I am here and look forward to working with the team and all of you. This does conclude our financial review. Speaker 300:22:53Now I would like to open the call up for questions. Operator00:22:57Thank you. One moment please for your first question. Your first question comes from the line of Mitch Kummetz with Seaport Research. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:23:20Yes. Thanks for taking my questions and I'd like to welcome Eric. Let me start with the guide. Can you update us on SG and A and either operating margin or EBIT for the year? There's nothing in the release and I didn't hear anything in your comments, but I think you previously had given guidance on those line items. Speaker 300:23:44Sure, Mitch, and thank you for that kind welcome. SG and A, as you know in our previous guidance, We called out approximately 25.6%. As we look through the balance of the year, We continue to look for cost management and as we look through operating income, you can see that our EPS does reflect That continued management. So the guidance that we would give is that Our percentages are going to be consistent with what we've provided in the original guidance. There will be some increased basis point changes possibly in the range of 30 basis points to 50 basis points. Speaker 300:24:32Regarding operating income, we've talked about the original guidance of 11.4%. Really, we're looking at a range of there is going to be some impacts to the operating income in the range of 40 to 100 basis points As a result of the sales decline. Speaker 400:24:53Got it. All right. Thanks for that. And then just looking at the revised Sales guidance, obviously, it came down for the year, but it looks like at least I can kind of back into Growth that's sort of flat to maybe up low single digits over the balance of the year on a year over year basis, which is obviously Better than what you achieved in the quarter. Can you just elaborate on why that is? Speaker 400:25:21Is that just That we're past tax refunds. You expect the weather to be more normal. I'm just kind of curious your assumptions around the consumer To kind of get to those numbers and also if there's any color you can kind of provide by quarter, I would guess that you're maybe most optimistic around 3Q, just given what you said around back to school and better athletic inventory, but maybe some more color there would be helpful. Speaker 200:25:45Hey, Mitch, it's Mark. Speaker 100:25:47Thanks for joining today. Yes, you got it right with those key elements. We see back to school being Significantly improved versus last year. As I shared on the call, our athletic inventory positions it's in hand, it's fresh And it's far superior to the supply chain disrupted back to the school we had last year. We think it's going to come in Q3, Mitch. Speaker 100:26:11We're still seeing The macro headwinds in Q2, but we believe our Q3 position is ready to go for back to school And that moderate as the year continues on, as inflation continues to get more and more in control. I think the second thing you talked about that is encouraging, and I talked briefly about it, as the weather has turned, Our Shoe Station business is getting some good momentum along with the new stores. Shoe Station, the dotcom going live, CRM going live, Yes, we're growing nicely as we progress into this Q2 and we see that continuing to accelerate as the year goes on. So we're really highlighting that we think Shoe Carnival's segment of customers that are really hit by the inflation, it's that small segment under a third of our That's the variability that we're just not sure yet when that customer is going to be healthier, which quarter that's going to turn. As soon as it does, we're in great shape to start accelerating growth. Speaker 400:27:18Got it. And then Carl, on sandals, I know there were challenges in the Quarter, I believe that Q2 is by far your largest stand alone quarter. What are you thinking there? Do you think there's pent up demand for the category? And how do you feel about Okay. Speaker 400:28:10Hopefully, you guys can hear me better now. The question has to do about sandals. I was asking Carl about sandals. Obviously, it didn't perform well in the Quarter, but I was curious if you feel like there's Q2 being your biggest quarter for sandals, Do you think there's pent up demand and how do you sort of expect that to play out? How are you planning that for the Q2, especially kind of working through whatever standalone inventory you have? Operator00:29:11I'm sorry, this is the operator. It Seems as though we're having some technical difficulties with the speaker line. We're Thank you for your patience, ladies and gentlemen. We will continue with Mitch Kummetz's question. Speaker 400:34:32So I don't know if you guys heard my question about sandals. It's really for Carl. I was just curious about your outlook for 2Q, that being your biggest Sandler quarter, wondering if you think there's any pent up demand just given the challenges in the Q1 and also how you're expecting to work through Your sandal inventory given the shortfall in Q1? Speaker 200:34:53Sure, Mitch. Thanks. We do believe Already see some movement on the sandal business as we have consistent warm weather that has hit a part of most of the Midwest. So we're encouraged by some very recent sandal business in the shoe particle business. Shoe station business, it actually started a bit earlier, pretty much, I believe, based on the geographics of that business And a higher income consumer that tends to shop earlier. Speaker 200:35:26In regards to the inventory, we have made the necessary adjustments As we move forward with our position on sandals based on Q1 results, and we anticipate ending the season In a better inventory, more reduced inventory position than we did last year. So we're confident we've got that business under control. Speaker 400:35:51All right. Thanks. I'll just get back in the queue. Operator00:36:07And there are no further questions at this time. I will turn the call back Sorry, we do have a follow-up from Mitch Kummetz. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:36:19Okay. I thought there'd be other people. So I guess my other question or one of my other questions was just on the BOGOs. You talked about the gross margin, obviously, it's down year over year, but still way up From 4 years ago, particularly on the merch margin side. I am curious, you guys still do BOGOs, but you do them very differently than before. Speaker 400:36:38Is there any way you can comment on The margin of the BOGOs, is there any way you can kind of isolate that and talk about how that's different from what it was 4 years ago? Speaker 200:36:51Sure, Ben. I'll take that. Any BOGO promotion that we run and we only do it a couple of times a On seasonal product that we have purchased at a very advantageous price. So they're planned in on selected items And the margin on them during BOGO actually is in line with the total company margin. And in fact, In some cases, it's March at accretion. Speaker 200:37:18So there are limited time, very targeted product and merchandise that was bought for that intent. Speaker 400:37:28And so how does that compare from like 4 years ago when it was more of an all store BOGO? I assume that those margins were Dilutive to the total, but I mean, have you seen like within kind of the BOGO piece, I mean, is like the margin 1,000 bps better than it was 4 years ago? Or is there any way you can, And sort of isolate how much that's improved and how much of that's kind of a story for the overall margin expansion of the business? Speaker 200:37:54Sure, Mitch. That is definitely the story. The BOGOs that we used to run, including the entire inventory, They were targeted and the margin was pretty much dead on about 1,000 basis points dilutive to the margin we run today On the very selected BOGO products. So that is a major factor in the trends to margins we've been producing. Speaker 400:38:20Got it. And then maybe one last for me. Just on back to school and athletic, can you Carl, can you speak to how much better The athletic inventory is versus last year. I don't know if you can kind of speak to it in percentage terms. And then just remind us of the athletic comparison that you're going up against for back to school. Speaker 400:38:42I assume it's a pretty easy comp. Speaker 200:38:46Yes. It is. The athletic inventory, if you go back historically, when you look to last year, Our athletic inventory was really hampered by supply chain. We received quite a few delays with processing Actually, late August into September and missed the back to school timeframe. In addition to that, We have many products that we purchased that frankly we never got. Speaker 200:39:18So from an athletic standpoint, I see A major improvement also in products, but In the quality of the brands and the quality of the products we have. We anticipate our athletic Inventory as we go into the back to school timeframe being up in the teens. But it's really that and the quality of the inventory that we have and the timing of the delivery of that inventory. Actually, ending July 15th and as we move through early part of August around 20%. And if I can give Speaker 400:40:06you one point. So if Speaker 100:40:08you look at comps last year, To remind you, Q2 was down 13.8% and it was really driven by 15% 20% declines in comp in June July during that period where our supply chain was really disrupted. So We see that as an opportunity with this great position Carl talked about to claw back, gain market share and have a Much more solid Q2 than we did last year. Speaker 400:40:38Okay. And then I guess maybe one last one for me. Just on the loyalty part, I know that Shoe Station is now plugged into Shoe Perks and has access to all of those loyalty members. What have you seen there? Have you seen some of those customers buying Product from Shoe Station, especially maybe some brands and some price points that they didn't have access to in the Shoe Carnival stores? Speaker 100:41:05We do. We see we have almost 2,000,000 people already have joined Shoe Perks on the Shoe Station side. I would see a great opportunity to grow that rapidly. We're just starting now to engage with them. And we are we're seeing them Buy purchases in different price tiers now that they can cross shop. Speaker 100:41:25We're seeing them Engage with different categories that they haven't had before. And importantly, we're seeing the opportunity to The Shoe Carnival Shoe Perks members are also being introduced to new products from the new brand too that aren't offered. This is a big opportunity For cross introducing over the quarters ahead and really fueling growth. Speaker 400:41:50All right. Thanks guys. Good luck. Thank you, Mitch. Operator00:41:56There are no further questions at this time. I will turn the call back to Mr. Mark Warden. Speaker 100:42:02Thank you all for joining us for today's call, and thank you for bearing with our technology struggles there for a moment. We look forward to talking to you all again as we get into the back to school season and have Q2 report. Operator00:42:18This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for joining us. You may now disconnect your line.Read moreRemove AdsPowered by