Anywhere Real Estate Q1 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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May 3, 2023

There are 7 speakers on the call.

Operator

Afternoon, and welcome to the Anywhere Real Estate First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call via webcast. Today's call is being recorded and a written transcript will be made available in the Investor Information section of the company's website tomorrow. A webcast replay will also be made available on the company's website. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Anywhere Senior Vice President, Alicia Twist. Please go ahead, Alicia.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Brianna. Good afternoon, and welcome to the Q1 2023 earnings conference call for Anywhere Real Estate. On the call with me today are Anywhere's CEO and President, Ryan Schneider and Chief Financial Officer, Charlotte Simonelli. As shown on Slide 3 of the presentation, the company will be making statements about its future results and other forward looking statements during this call. These statements are based on the current expectation and the current economic environment.

Speaker 1

Forward looking statements, estimates and projections are inherently subject to significant economic, competitive, litigation, regulatory and other uncertainties and contingencies, many of which are beyond the control of management, including among others industry and macroeconomic developments and the incurrence of liabilities that are in excess of amounts accrued or payments made in connection with pending litigation. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied in the forward looking statements. Important assumptions and factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward looking statements are specified in our earnings release issued today as well as our annual and quarterly SEC filings. For those who listen to the rebroadcast of this presentation, we remind you that the remarks made herein or as of today, May 3, and have not been updated subsequent to the initial earnings call. Now I will turn the call over to our CEO and President, Ryan Schneider?

Speaker 2

Thank you, Alicia. Good afternoon, everyone. Even in the face of a challenging housing market, Anywhere continues to Charge ahead and make meaningful progress, setting up our company for even greater success in the future. In the Q1 of 2023, We stayed focused on positioning our existing businesses for future growth, especially franchise and luxury, with specific in owned brokerage agent recruiting and retention and franchise sales across our great brands. We significantly lowered our cost Including permanently changing how we operate as we work to execute $200,000,000 in cost savings for the year And we continue to invest in reimagining the agent and consumer experience to create a simpler, more integrated real estate transaction that also lets us capture greater economics.

Speaker 2

I will share more on each of these later in the call, but I want to start by thanking our great employees, Agents and franchisees are helping our customers navigate a tough environment as Anywhere stays laser focused driving our strategic priorities, including an intense innovation agenda. In that spirit, our company got a lot of energy from being named 1 of Fortune's Most Innovative Companies for the first time ever. Now turning to the housing market, there is no hiding from the fact we are in the midst of a very challenging year. Most forecasts predict home sales in the low 4 1,000,000 range, which would be one of the worst years we've seen in a long time. And we still believe the year over year volume comparisons will improve throughout the year and I'm starting to hear from some agents and franchisees about greater optimism for the market improving going And we have a few of those positive indicators in our portfolio.

Speaker 2

In Q1, our business performed right around expectations. We delivered $50,000,000 of cost savings in a tough quarter when volume was down about 30%, both of which we signaled in advance to you. The volume decline was almost all unit driven with a 29% decline in home sale units. While home sales were down substantially across all markets, There was significant geographic variation in price changes. A few markets, in particular California and New York City, had prices down 5% versus prior year, while about 2 thirds of the states, including large ones like Texas and Florida, saw prices hold steady or even increase versus last Revenue was over $1,000,000,000 and operating EBITDA was minus $52,000,000 However, our operating EBITDA was meaningfully impacted by new legal accruals in the quarter.

Speaker 2

As a reminder, in addition to the 2 other class action jury trials later this year, A second large industry antitrust transaction was certified in March. Now legal accruals aside, we were pleased that March operating EBITDA was solidly positive. We expect that trend to continue. We are also glad to see open volume metrics continuing to outperform closed volume metrics in Q1, which indicates positive future volume levels. And our numbers for April so far are continuing the trend of open volume metrics running better than closed volume metrics.

Speaker 2

We are most excited about our strategic progress to set us up for greater success, especially in stronger future housing markets. So first, We're working hard to position Anywhere to achieve share growth, especially as the market rebounds with a particular focus on our franchise business and our luxury leadership. Our Anywhere Advisors agent base again grew year over year and we continue to have record agent retention levels. Our Anywhere Brands business is delivering robust franchise sales both domestically and internationally. And we continue to see agents and brokers attracted to our compelling value proposition that includes innovative technology, data and marketing products and high quality lead generation programs.

Speaker 2

2nd, We are moving our business to a permanently lower cost base. As you can see from our cost results in 2022 and Q1 of 2023, We are re architecting and reducing our real estate footprint and automating our operations. This includes our most recent actions as we bring together our Title and brokerage physical footprints and operations to better serve agents, lower costs and improve the transaction experience. And 3rd, we continue to invest and make progress since our goal to simplify and integrate the agent and consumer transaction experience. We believe this will have multiple benefits, including capturing additional economics in the transaction and further reducing the stress and friction for consumers, agents and franchisees.

Speaker 2

A few examples include the following from the quarter. Our Real Vitalize product provides a turnkey solution to help sellers prepare their home for sale. This adds to our value proposition by simplifying the agent and consumers transaction experience and enables us to capture additional economics. So for example, in Q1, we captured title on over 80% of the revitalized transactions in seller controlled markets. We scaled up our Lead Gen product, which simplifies and speeds up the process of matching consumers with agents.

Speaker 2

Lead Gen is part of our ongoing One click title, which as the name suggests, simplifies and integrates the title ordering process To a single click across our title and brokerage operations launched last year in Coldwell Banker Realty and in Q1 nearly 30% Of our CBR agents who closed transactions use the feature. So in addition to better integrating the transaction, one click title is also an example Changing how we work by automating a complex part of the transaction. And finally, Upward Title, our new multi franchise title joint venture program went live in its 1st market Florida and is on track to launch in our next planned markets of California and Pennsylvania later this year. This program allows our franchisees to benefit from our scale and title and extend the reach of our integrated title offering to our franchise network. So in the midst of a clearly tough housing market, I'm excited by our strategic progress, our team's continued track record of delivery And how we're seizing this moment to further position Anywhere to capture the opportunities ahead of us, especially in stronger housing markets.

Speaker 2

Now I will turn over to Charlotte to discuss our results in more detail.

Speaker 3

Good afternoon, everyone. Given the market dynamics, We had solid financial and operational performance in the Q1 and continue to focus on what we can control, Our cost savings and executing against our strategic goals. We believe our execution, strategic focus and industry leadership will enable us to drive differentiated performance and emerge stronger when the housing market improves. Now I will highlight our Q1 financial results. Q1 revenue was $1,100,000,000 down 31% versus prior year and in line with our transaction volume decline.

Speaker 3

Q1 operating EBITDA was negative $2,000,000 down versus prior year due to lower transaction volume and higher agent commission costs, offset in part by cost savings across the enterprise. Our results were also impacted by the significant legal accruals Ryan referred to earlier. We are prudently managing our cash. Cash on hand at the end of Q1 was 122,000,000 And Q1 free cash flow was negative $120,000,000 This result is better than what we normally see in the Q1, our seasonally slowest. Our revolver borrowing at the end of the quarter was $380,000,000 only $30,000,000 higher than year end 2022 and driven by our prudent cash management and better working capital.

Speaker 3

Also, almost all of our revolver borrowings relate to the note redemption we did in November last year, which leaves us with limited maturities until 2026. Now let me go into more detail on our business segment performance. Our Anywhere Brands business, which includes leads and relocation, generated $97,000,000 in operating EBITDA. Operating EBITDA decreased $41,000,000 year over year, primarily due to lower revenue related to transaction volume declines, partially offset by decreases in operating and marketing costs. Our Q1 Anywhere Advisors operating EBITDA was negative $75,000,000 down $35,000,000 versus prior year due to lower volume and higher agent commission costs offset in part by lower operating and marketing expenses.

Speaker 3

Commission splits in Q1 were up 84 basis points year over year, which was better than we expected in the quarter. Splits were worse than the prior year due to the impact of amortization of prior recruiting and retention payments over a much lower volume and due to the mix of agents we've recruited over the past year. It was also impacted by timing on our Corcoran new development business. Anywhere Integrated Services was negative $17,000,000 in operating EBITDA in Q1. Operating EBITDA declined $14,000,000 year over year due to lower purchase and refinance volumes and $6,000,000 lower earnings due to the sale of our title underwriter business.

Speaker 3

This was partially offset by lower operating expenses due to cost savings initiatives and $6,000,000 in improved GRA JV performance. Moving on to cost. We have a relentless focus on changing how we operate our company to drive greater efficiency. We continue to execute on our 200,000,000 Cost savings program realizing $50,000,000 of this in the Q1 and expect the balance to be recognized fairly evenly across the remainder of the year. The majority of the savings will come from headcount and real estate footprint efficiencies, representing about 70% of our 2023 savings.

Speaker 3

We have reduced our headcount by 11% since June of 2022. On the real estate footprint, We are focusing our efforts to reimagine and transform our real estate brokerage offices to be more efficient, Flexible and integrated with transaction services like title and mortgage. These efforts are focused on how we deliver services to agents and customers by advancing our technology and product solutions, which drive efficiencies. A couple of examples. In the Q1, these efforts resulted in a reduction in our Coldwell Banker Realty offices of about 10%.

Speaker 3

We have historically operated title and brokerage separately, but now are focused on the opportunity to integrate administrative operations. This will change how we deliver services to brokerage, expanding our value proposition. This simplifies the transaction for agents and consumers, shortening timelines and improving the end user experience. This will also drive efficiencies and streamline operations by leveraging work that had previously been done in both title and brokerage and now eliminating those redundancies. We are also targeting higher ROI spending.

Speaker 3

For example, we are moving away from Advertising in March Madness to Amazon Prime Video for Thursday Night Football. The same dollar investment doubles our reach and offers retargeting opportunities and branded in show integrations. We consider approximately 2 thirds of our full year savings to be permanent and are not expected to return when volumes increase. These savings will be offset in part by inflation and by intensifying litigation costs driven by the cases Ryan mentioned previously. Now on to our new estimates for 2023.

Speaker 3

1st, we expect our Q2 closed volumes to be down about 25% versus prior year. 2nd, based on the Q1 split trends, we now expect full year 2023 split pressure of about 100 basis points, which is better than our previous estimates. Estimates that remain the same as our last call. For full year 2023, we continue to expect transaction volume declines to about 15% to 20% year over year, which is consistent with our past estimate and in line with industry forecasts. We also still expect transaction volumes will improve sequentially throughout the year.

Speaker 3

We expect our operating free cash flow to be modestly positive as favorable working capital, Robust savings programs and our cash management discipline will help counterbalance this tough year in housing. Finally, we are on track to realize $200,000,000 of P and L cost savings in 2023. Let me now turn the call back to Ryan for some closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Charlotte. So as I reflect on the Q1, I'm proud of how our team navigated the tough housing environment and delivered. I'm also excited about the strategic progress we made in the quarter to set our business up for greater growth when the market rebounds, to permanently streamline our cost base as we operate differently, And to reimagine the agent and customer transaction experience. Looking ahead, we continue to believe the housing market will improve through the course of the year and I remain quite optimistic about the housing market over the medium term and our ability to lead in it. To achieve even greater success in the future, we continue to seize this moment to position Anywhere to capture the benefits of that better housing environment Together with our agents and franchisees, we move real estate to what's next.

Speaker 2

Now I'll turn the call back over to the operator for any questions.

Operator

Your first question comes from Tommy McJoynt with KBW. Your line is now open.

Speaker 4

Hey, good evening, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. So I want to start off asking about the commission split numbers. So Assuming that the full year transaction volumes are down 15%, 20%, I think you guided to for the full year, And understanding that the productivity mix among agents can vary, what's a reasonable range for where that commission split could end up this year relative to what it was last year.

Speaker 3

Yes. So I think the guidance that I just indicated in the prepared remarks was to be around 100 basis points Worse than prior year, the Q1 being down 84%. And again, the drivers of what's causing this split pressure is The amortization of prior recruiting and retention payments as well as the mix of some of the agents that we've recruited over the past year. So those are the big drivers, down 84 basis points in Q1 and our call for the full year at this point is to be down about 100.

Speaker 2

So, up base or up

Speaker 3

on Sorry, worse, worse, worse, worse, worse, worse, 1 100.

Speaker 4

Right, right. Got it. Okay. And then my second question, have you seen any early indications of a slowdown in available jumbo mortgage credit That's impacting the luxury housing market following the pullback by some of the banks that historically were pretty prominent in that market?

Speaker 2

No, we have not. Our mortgage business is meaningfully sized and Kind of has a pretty broad distribution out there. Obviously, we're not a bank, so we do operate differently than some of the banks In our joint venture, but we haven't seen any pressure on housing results because of mortgage pullbacks. We've seen a massive amount of pressure on housing results because of mortgage rates with frankly the supply Issue and the fact that so many people have a low rate and are kind of locked into their homes and we're getting so little inventory on the market It's even bigger than the affordability that comes with 6% to 7% mortgage rates. But on the list of things that are kind of affecting Housing transactions, both the number, the pricing, etcetera, like the pullback in mortgage credit and in the jumbo market in Particular is not anywhere near the top of the list.

Speaker 2

It's not something that comes up. And look, the Luxury segment has a disproportionate majority of cash transactions relative to the rest of the market. Good question given everything that's going on, but it is not a driver, we believe, of either our results or of the results out there in the industry. And again, it's a tough year for housing right now because of those rate environment, but We think the longer term outlook for housing with demographics and the fact that it's not a loose credit environment and we don't have the balance sheet issues of 15 years ago Does have us more optimistic over the medium term, but pretty strong no on your question in terms of what we're seeing and what's affecting our results.

Speaker 4

Understood. Thanks, Ryan.

Operator

Your next question comes from Matthew Bouley with Klase, your line is now open.

Speaker 5

Hey, good evening, everyone. Thank you for taking the questions. So I guess on the G and A spend, I guess presumably that includes some of these meaningful legal accruals that you're speaking to and I know you didn't add those back to adjusted EBITDA. I don't know if you want to quantify those or if you're kind of holding that back, but maybe said another way, is there a way to kind of think about sort of normalized level of G and A spend ongoing, maybe be a way to put it? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Well, look, this is 3 quarters in a row that we've had bluntly meaningful legal accruals that affect our EBITDA. And To your point, we just put it in the operating EBITDA and we don't try to adjust that out. But we talk about them and we make it clear that it's meaningful. So you should obviously be assuming on a run rate basis that our Absent those things, our G and A would have been lower and our EBITDA would have been higher. We're not going to get in the business of giving the numbers out, partly because you wouldn't want us to be sharing them with the plaintiffs.

Speaker 2

But we're pretty transparent about what's going on there and that it's a meaningful impact. And you're right, that is where the lion's share of that stuff shows up.

Speaker 3

Yes. I think, Matt, I mean, you've probably looked at our corporate G and A over a longer period of time and you know kind of where our cost savings come from with the majority of which are coming out of brokerage and title. So I think You can probably estimate for yourself what you think the run rate of corporate G and A would be.

Speaker 2

Yes. I mean the other thing probably to keep in mind when you look at the How the legal accruals kind of hit the results, Matt, obviously, they go straight into the operating EBITDA number that we quoted. But Legal accruals aside, March was a positive EBITDA month for us. It was solidly positive. So, we like that.

Speaker 2

We like the trend there. And then underlying that is the fact every month so far this year, we've seen the open transactions Volume metrics outperformed the closed ones, which kind of shows future months better than previous, and that's partly why March was a better month than January to February. So those accruals have really been a headwind to some of these numbers That we've been sharing with you on an overall basis, but we have tried to be clear that there's stronger underlying business performance there. And with the March EBITDA solidly positive is just one example of that.

Speaker 5

Yes, got it. And before I get to my second question, is any color on maybe how many more quarters of legal accrual we could look for?

Speaker 3

Yes. So obviously, these cases continue to evolve. I mean, what we're accrued for at this point is our best guess as of today, But we do have to reevaluate sort of month by month. And the class was certified and so we took a position that we thought was prudent, but we're going to have to keep watching it month by month.

Speaker 5

Okay, got it. So thank you for all that helpful detail. And then So secondly, just kind of question on how this overall housing market is evolving. I think one thing you see as you look in the data is that You're seeing this sort of larger share shift towards newbuild, and I'm thinking more of the single family So not really asking about the new development business that you guys do in Corcoran, for example. So as you think about how that Maybe plays out from Anywhere's perspective.

Speaker 5

To what extent do your agents participate in new construction, New single family construction and how would that play into either commission splits or even commission rate? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. So we play with our agents play in new single family home construction, I would say episodically. When the markets are hot, builders don't need to use agents to sell their homes. When markets are tougher like We're getting right now a bit bluntly. We have more agents who are helping people, I would say, sell homes.

Speaker 2

That said, it's never going to be that In our mix because if the normal world is whatever $5,000,000 plus resale and In a good year, I guess, about $1,000,000 or so new construction maybe, I don't know, it's a plus or minus that. Even a big move in the new construction number doesn't kind of move the overall that much Kind of thing. And so our world is pretty much going to be Swamped by what happens either up or down with the resale market. So we'll take any of the business we can get there, but it's neither going Make up for the resale market nor is it going to be a problem if the new sales stuff kind of goes away In terms of our agents' involvement, but the bigger thing is just it is a challenging market right now. I think part of the reason the New sale market is doing well as they are bringing new supply onto the market.

Speaker 2

And as I said in your earlier comment, The lack of supply is by far the biggest issue out there in the world, and it's true across price points And geographies and obviously what's happening in the rate environment has really hurt that ABILITY and you can look at all the forecasts, but whether it's 4.2, 4.3, 4.5, 4.0, whatever those forecasts, those are like some of the lowest numbers we'll have Seen in 15 to 30 or 40 years in terms of number of units sold. So we've really got to stay focused on the cost side like we're doing. We absolutely are excited that we can invest in a time when a lot of people are Having to pull back even more and the fact that we could You know, still drive meaningful EBITDA this year and even have some modestly positive free cash flow, you know, It's feeling pretty good given the market that we're in. And then you've obviously seen how we can perform in stronger markets. And so Anything we can do to create some space with the competition because I think the competitive environment has gotten better and I have a personal belief there may be some flight to quality So, we're absolutely seeing out in the market and how we're trying to navigate our way through it.

Speaker 3

The only thing I'd add to that is, as Brian brought up our modestly positive free cash flow on the year. I just want to be explicit that we have no Further information about any possibility or timing of any of the outcomes in our litigation, so that's not factored into the estimates that we've shared with you.

Speaker 2

All right.

Speaker 5

Well, thank you, Charlotte. Thanks, Ryan. Good luck, guys.

Speaker 2

All

Speaker 3

right. Thank

Operator

Your next question comes from John Campbell with Stephens Inc. Your line is now open.

Speaker 6

Hey, this is A. J. Hayes stepping in for John Campbell. So we saw in the 10 ks that a third of title transactions last year stemmed from your Companies owned brokerages and you also called out that about 30% of title attach rates for those brokerage transactions. Can you provide some insight on how that has looked in prior years and how you've seen an improvement in patch rate over the years?

Speaker 6

And in longer term, where do you think you Can take those attach rates?

Speaker 2

Well, I think we've had that stuff out there. I don't think our attach rates have frankly really improved over the years. I mean, and they've kind of stayed in kind of that range there. To your other point, we do do a meaningful amount of third party business and we love that, Right. We love doing title business for any transactions that we can, not just our own agents.

Speaker 2

And so that's why, A. J, and I appreciate you stepping in. I do spend as much time as I do talking about reimagining the agent and the consumer transaction experience, Because I have a very strong fundamental belief, A. J, if you'll let me just share it with you here, which is Everybody just trying to change the way we've done things to get a different title attachment the way it's been done forever in our industry is unlikely to work. And the fact that our results on that core metric haven't changed that much is an evidence of it.

Speaker 2

But the way to actually get different results Is it actually change how the transaction happens and make it easier for people or create products that make it easier to let you capture. And the Real Vitalize one I use as an example of that. We give a product. I've actually used this product as a home seller Where it makes it it takes all the work of prepping your home for sale and hands it to professionals where both the agent and the homeowner doesn't have to do any of the coordination because a professional does that, right? And We recoup the cost of that stuff at the closing, but built into that product is using our title In any market where the home seller controls the title.

Speaker 2

And so we get 80 plus percent capture rates there. And so I don't talk about simplifying the transaction just for the fun of it or because of the obvious thing that we all want simpler things in life. Having products and experiences that are better for the agent and the consumer in this very complex big dollar thing It's not only good on its own rights and can help with our value proposition, but my view, A. J, is that's the only way to really get your Title and mortgage capture rates to a different zip code, which is wherever possible to actually embedded in the product that people want because it makes service better or easier and Realvitalize is an example of that. And So we actually that's partly why we want to give those kind of data points that we are finding ways to do that In pilot programs at smaller scale that we want to roll more broadly, and that's the kind of way We can get to different capture rates.

Speaker 2

Just doing what we do or what our industry does is not likely to move the needle. But innovation and change in the experience, that could do it. And so we've got that real example we gave you this quarter And that's the kind of innovation agenda we need to be driving.

Speaker 6

Yes, really appreciate the color there, Ryan, And definitely impressive attach rates with Revitalize. One follow-up, if I may. With Cartus, it's obviously buried in the brand segment, but It seems like you've rebuilt to a great spot after the pandemic driven fallout. It would be very helpful if you could provide either The exact contributions or maybe just talk broadly to where it is today versus pre pandemic for both revenue and margin as well?

Speaker 3

Yes. So what I would say is we had a really good quarter and in relocation it was it drove A decent year over year improvement in the it was definitely noticeable. From a revenue perspective, Over the past year, the volume was kind of driven by a couple of different things. It was driven by a little bit of a rebound of pent up demand, but it was also By new business with existing clients and then share gains that we had with new clients. So I think the business to your point is very healthy.

Speaker 3

We have really focused on it. When the real estate business was booming, We continue to invest and ensure that we were driving the right technology agenda. And so I'm really happy with the way that performance I will say there's for what's to come balance of the year, there are challenges that are driven by If you think about the sectors that use relocation, some of those sectors are suffering. And so they may have different plans for relocation in the near term as they have Their own agendas to worry about, but over the long haul, the market share gains that we've built both with existing and new customers, I think are going to benefit us For sure. And we're very happy with the year over year contribution from that

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