NiSource Q1 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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There are 11 speakers on the call.

Operator

My name is Chris, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome everyone to the Q1 2023 NiSource Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Thank you.

Operator

Chris Turnier, Director of Investor Relations, you may begin.

Speaker 1

Good morning, and welcome to the NiSource First Quarter 2023 Investor Call. Joining me today are President and Chief Executive Officer, Lloyd Yates Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Sean Anderson Executive Vice President of Strategy and Risk and Chief Commercial Officer, Michael Lors Executive Vice President and Group President, NiSource Utilities, Melody Birmingham and Vice President of Investor Relations and Treasurer, Randy Hulen. The purpose of this presentation is to review NiSource's financial performance for the Q1 of 2023 as well as provide an update on our operations and growth drivers. Following our prepared remarks, we'll open the call to your questions. Slides for today's call are available in the Investor Relations section of our website.

Speaker 1

We would like to remind you that some of the statements made during this presentation will be forward looking. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed in the statements. Information concerning such risks and uncertainties is included in the Risk Factors and MD and A sections of our periodic SEC filings. Additionally, some of the statements made on this call relate to non GAAP measures. Please refer to the supplemental slides, segment information and full financial schedules for information on the most directly comparable GAAP measure and a reconciliation of these measures.

Speaker 1

Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Lloyd.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Chris. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Hopefully, you've all had a chance to read our Q1 earnings release issued earlier today. I'll begin on Slide 7 by reviewing our 3 key priorities for 2023. 1st, NiSource remains committed to delivering on our top tier EPS growth plan.

Speaker 2

We are reaffirming non GAAP No EPS guidance of $1.54 to $1.60 in 2023 and growth of 6% to 8% annually through 2027. Annual rate base growth of 8% to 10% is projected, driven by $15,000,000,000 of capital expenditures during the 2023 2027 period. Meanwhile, our O and M target is to remain flat in 2023 as well as throughout the duration of the plan. 2nd, strong regulatory execution continued in the Q1, advancing balanced outcomes for all our stakeholders. In March, a settlement agreement was filed in Northern Indiana Public Service Companies Electric Rate Case.

Speaker 2

The proposed settlement incorporates $1,800,000,000 of incremental capital investments made on behalf of customers since 2019, including renewable generation projects, grid modernization and other customer centric improvements to enhance safety, service And reliability. The settlement represents a $292,000,000 revenue increase. A final order is anticipated in August with rates effective in 2023 2024. Additionally, gas distribution regulatory execution has also advanced with the Columbia Gas of Ohio rate case settlement approval and implementation during the Q1. The company's track infrastructure replacement programs are executing on plan for 2023 As highlighted by Ohio's recently approved infrastructure replacement program, authorized a recovery of $316,000,000 of capital investment targeting safety enhancements in our gas system.

Speaker 2

Lastly, the sale of the NIPSCO minority interest remains on Track for 2023. As previously indicated, the proceeds generated from this financing transaction We'll immediately strengthen our balance sheet and will enable NiSource to draw upon the portfolio of capital investment opportunities to enhance shareholder value while enhancing safety and reliability for our customers. This includes continuing commitments in Indiana supporting major generation projects, new customer connections And capital enhancements to existing electric and gas infrastructure to add resiliency to our system. We look forward to continuing to serve the state of Indiana in all of our operating service territories for many years to come. Shifting to our generation transition.

Speaker 2

NiSource has been a leader among U. S. Utilities in the speed of our energy transition, Advancing 1 of the largest projected carbon intensity reductions by the end of this decade, NiSource remains focused and committed to an orderly conversation on the energy transition by leveraging energy delivery solutions across diversified systems. Our team continues to work on developing new generation capacity and a collaborative process started in 2018 involving stakeholder groups, including our customers, communities, regulators and policymakers. Michael will touch on the commercialization process for Energy Solutions replacing our core retirements in a moment.

Speaker 2

The established regulatory constructs that utilize track capital investment programs and forward test year rate cases Allow our investors a consistent and predictable return on 1,000,000,000 of dollars of funding for investment in these critical energy facilities. Indiana's supportive and constructive regulatory mechanisms have enabled NIPSCO to time the construction of these facilities Alongside regulatory plans as contemplated in our proposed rate case settlement, which has enabled NiSource to minimize unnecessary financing expense for And reduce regulatory lag. We continue to be encouraged by the active dialogue on electric reliability, affordability And sustainability in our region. Throughout the last 2 years of global inflationary pressure, supply chain constraints, Policy uncertainty and commodity volatility, we have remained confident in the value of these investments for our customers. These new projects are projected to provide savings consistent with original expectations, while delivering the reliable energy our customers deserve.

Speaker 2

I'd also like to give you an update on our progress on operational excellence, which continues to prioritize safety, While optimizing our long term growth profile, we have formally launched Project Apollo, one part of our enterprise wide transformation effort. Project Apollo contains several initiatives we anticipate driving an annual savings range of $40,000,000 to $1,000,000 beginning in 2023. We expect to share more on the progress of the portfolio of initiatives inside Project Apollo As they advance to drive greater value for stakeholders, Project Apollo fits within our broader focus on operational excellence, safety, O and M management and unlocking efficiencies across our operations, enabling us to streamline work and improve logistics company wide. Complementary to Project Apollo is our previously announced long term plan to invest Almost $1,000,000,000 in proven technologies to change how we plan, schedule and execute work in the field and how we engage and provide service to our customers. These investments will improve both the customer and employee experience, but are also intended to reduce our overall cost profile.

Speaker 2

Taken together, These investments and process changes will be critical components of our overall transformation effort to allow us to maintain flat O and M And be safer and more efficient in everything we do. More importantly, this helps sustain customer affordability with expected Total annual rate increases that are in line with inflation. I'd like to recognize our dedicated employees and contractors who worked tirelessly to ensure our communities receive safe and reliable energy during the quarter. In late February, Winter Storm Olive brought freezing rain and significant ice to Northeast Indiana, impacting distribution switches, Lines and tree limbs. Nearly all customers had power restored the next day and work was completed without compromising our safety standards.

Speaker 2

Now for updates on our electric operations and renewable projects, I'm excited to Michael Louris to the NiSource team as Executive Vice President of Strategy and Risk and Chief Commercial Officer. Michael, who has more than 25 years in the utility industry, adds another level of depth and expertise to our already strong management team. Now, Michael, over to you. Thank you, Lloyd, and good morning, everyone. On Slides 9 through 11, you will find some Reporting information about our gas and electric operations.

Speaker 3

As a newly named Strategy, Risk and Chief Commercial Officer, One of my primary focuses is to optimize and enhance the current growth plan with additional opportunities found on Slide 8. Going forward, you'll hear more from me on these and other investment opportunities, which are enabled by our capabilities in gas and electric. These opportunities support our clean energy transition as well as improving safety, reliability, furthering our Scope 1 emission reduction goals And enhancing customer value in a balanced way. At year end 2022, NiSource achieved a 67% reduction in Scope 1 GHG emissions from 2,005 baseline levels. And we remain on track to achieve an industry leading 90% reduction in Scope 1 GHG generation transition is continuing to advance as we optimize the new portfolio to benefit customers and retire All coal fired generation by the end of 2028.

Speaker 3

All of the renewable generation projects remain on target with previously revised in service dates. As a few examples, our first two solar projects, Dunn's Bridge 1 and Indiana Crossroads Solar are expected to be in service by the end of the second quarter. Construction on Calvary Solar Plus Storage and Dunsbridge 2 Solar Plus Storage has kicked off in earnest With expected in service dates in 2024. Construction of our Indiana Crossroads II wind PPA is advancing and is expected in service late this year. Additionally, we are finalizing our due diligence on the results of our targeted RFP event The soft bids for the construction of a gas peaking capacity at our Shafer site consistent with our 2021 integrated resource plan.

Speaker 3

We are evaluating the provisions of the Inflation Reduction Act and its applicability to projects in our generation portfolio, including the potential application of tax Transferability. We believe the legislation has enabled opportunities to drive greater value to both customers and shareholders. NIPSCO's generation transition is already providing benefits to customers in multiple ways, including reduced fuel cost volatility And monetizing off system sales and REC sales. For example, during the run up in market prices in November December of last year As a result of winter storms, our wind renewable assets generated nearly 529,000 megawatt hours of low cost energy, saving customers an estimated $11,000,000 compared to what NISCO would have otherwise purchased in the market. In addition, Over 2022 and through the Q1 of 2023, NIPSCO's renewable projects contributed a total of more than $35,000,000 of combined off Sales and Renewable Energy Credit Sales that are being passed back to customers through NIPSCO's Fuel Adjustment Clause and Regional Transmission Organization Adjustment Tracker filings.

Speaker 3

Now I'd like to turn the call over to Sean, who will discuss our financial performance in more detail.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Michael, and good morning, everyone. Reviewing our Q1 2023 results on Slide 12. 1st quarter non GAAP net operating earnings $343,000,000 or $0.77 per share compared to $329,000,000 or $0.75 per share in the Q1 of 2022. This solid start to the year gives me even greater confidence in meeting all of our financial commitments, including our existing earnings guidance range of $1.54 to $1.60 for 2023, which reflects the increase in range shared in February. Slide 13 shows segment detail and key drivers of our results.

Speaker 4

Gas distribution operating earnings We're $478,000,000 in the Q1, an increase of $73,000,000 versus the same quarter last year. New rates and capital investment programs drove approximately $83,000,000 of incremental revenue, including general rate case contributions in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Virginia and Maryland Capital trackers in Ohio, Kentucky and Virginia positively impacted the segment as well. These infrastructure trackers Help us recover a return from over $1,000,000,000 of capital investments made in 2022, which improved safety and reliability Across our portfolio and drove nearly 30% of the revenue growth in the gas distribution segment. This is tangible evidence of how these mechanisms enable investments in our communities and drive returns for our shareholders. On the expense side, higher outside service and uncollectible accounts were an approximately $4,000,000 headwind.

Speaker 4

Electric operating earnings were $83,000,000 in the 1st quarter, a decrease of $16,000,000 versus the same quarter last year. Lower customer usage more than offset the increased revenue from new rates and higher generation related outside service costs I would also highlight that on a consolidated basis, the first quarter results reflect lower non tracked O and M expenses That represents some early progress towards achieving our focus on flat O and M this year. Now I'd like to briefly touch on our debt and credit profile. Our debt level as of March 31, 2023 was $11,600,000,000 of which $10,300,000,000 was long term debt with a weighted average maturity of 13 years and a weighted average interest rate of 3.8%. At the end of the Q1, we maintained net available liquidity of $2,300,000,000 consisting of cash and available capacity under our credit facility and our accounts receivable securitization programs.

Speaker 4

And as stated in the past, We remain committed to our current investment grade credit ratings. Slide 14 addresses our financing strategy and credit commitments. We issued a $750,000,000 5 year note at 5.25 percent in March and we'll use the proceeds to fund our capital plan. It is likely we will execute another debt issuance later this year to fund our renewables projects. Our financing plan remains unchanged from Investor Day in November with 0 discrete equity issuances through 2027, 0 ATM equity usage in 2023 2024 and the financing plan is reflected in all our earnings growth and credit commitments.

Speaker 4

Stepping back to another key area of focus we discussed in November, customer affordability remains a primary consideration for NiSource As we serve our customers, the geographical benefits of the location of our NiSource operating companies Have helped stabilize customer bills greatly in the Q1 of 2023, specifically as we observe natural gas prices decline across the broader country And in specific, in our operating companies, given their close proximity to robust shale formations in the Midwest, Gas prices have fallen significantly throughout the operating region in the Q1, averaging $2.65 per MMBtu at NYMEX, Far lower than the $5.57 per MMBtu observed in the Q4 of 2022. In 2022, commodity costs represent approximately 45% of an average residential customer total bill across our gas business. The nearly 50% reduction in commodity costs across nearly half of an average customer bill will translate into lower bills. Fuel pass through mechanisms throughout our jurisdictions enable these falling natural gas prices to drive a near term positive impact on customers. On average, these mechanisms update every 90 days, enabling customers to participate early in these reductions.

Speaker 4

The rate design leveraged by the majority of our gas operating companies also emphasizes nonvolumetric charges, which helps reduce bill volatility. We have witnessed this being realized in both an unseasonably warm Q1 of 2023 In a colder than normal 2022. In addition to the benefit this has to enhance bill visibility for our customers, It stabilizes NiSource's working capital needs and its associated interest expense to minimize non beneficial financial carrying charges. The combination of safe and reliable customer service, strong regulatory execution and diligent financial management Continued to propel a premium business plan for the NiSource operating companies. We're excited about the progress our teams have made in just the last quarter And the experience and strength of our teams will enhance value creation for all stakeholders as we execute a best in class business plan.

Speaker 4

In both 2021 2022, we exceeded our EPS guidance ranges. Last fall, we established our premium 6% to 8% long term growth plan, while incorporating challenging commodity interest rates and supply chain environments into our plans. Despite this, in February, we raised 2023 EPS guidance And I've had a great start to this year in executing our regulatory, operational and financing plans as we just highlighted. All of this gives me greater confidence we can deliver on all of our financial commitments, including the 2023 guidance of $1.54 to $1.60 Thank you all for participating today and for your ongoing interest in and support of NiSource. We're now ready to take your questions.

Operator

Our first question is from Shar Pourreza with Guggenheim Partners. Your line is open.

Speaker 5

Hey, guys.

Speaker 2

Hey, good morning, Shar. Good morning, Shar.

Speaker 6

Good morning. Just first on NIPSCO, I mean, obviously, Indiana doesn't require a long Approval process, but obviously, sometimes going to be needed between an announcement and transaction closing. Has any I guess, has any of your sort of transaction expectations changed? There's a lot of assets for sale, capital market conditions have somewhat changed. Just want to get a sense there and how we should think about the timing and pace of any disclosures between now and year end?

Speaker 6

Thanks.

Speaker 2

So what I'll say and I'll let Sean is leading the NIPSCO process. But with respect to the NIPSCO minority sale, mean, we're right on target as we laid out at Investor Day. Sean, anything more detail? We remain confident

Speaker 4

And the minority interest sale process itself is on track for 2023 is what I highlighted. Shar, just a quick point. We don't anticipate a requirement for the transaction approval from the IURC, although we plan to engage the IURC as we already have To discuss the transaction and file an informational update with the IURC once we reach an agreement.

Speaker 6

Got it. Perfect. And then just maybe the opposite side, Lloyd, there's a lot of gas LDCs hitting the market, which I think seems to be all at the same time. Is there sort of an interest there?

Speaker 2

Well, what I'll say is as a standard course, we don't comment on, I'll say, potential for M and A or market rumors. But as I've always said, if something shows up that's going to create opportunity or create shareholder value, I mean NiSource will be diligent in taking a look at that. You've all heard me say in the past, if someone wants to sell a great jurisdiction at one time rate base, give us a call. With all that being said, what I'll say to you is we're focused on our plan and we're laser focused on the minority sale of NIPSCO And our growth plan that we laid out, which includes growing rate base 8% to 10% by investing $15,000,000,000 through 2027 and really where our current focus is.

Speaker 6

Got it. Perfect. And then just super lastly for me is, Lloyd, as we're kind of thinking about that 6% to 8% Annual growth rate through 20 27. Can you just maybe remind us what you guys assume even on a percentage basis, What renewable projects are going to be owned versus PPA ed? And I guess I'm more curious how that calculus could change post IRA.

Speaker 6

Could we see some more accretive opportunities versus plan? Thanks.

Speaker 3

So when we're looking at this is Michael Loehr. So when we're looking at those different projects, I mean, we are on track relative to our revised 2022 plan. We have 2 in service, 2 nearing completion And 4 that are in the late stage of development and early construction. And I would say post IRA, as I mentioned earlier, we see Potential benefits associated with that, we continue to evaluate it relative to the tax transferability and our NiSource tax appetite, But it does appear to have customer benefits as well as shareholder benefits.

Speaker 2

But we don't have that integrated into our financial plan yet.

Speaker 6

Okay, perfect. That's what I was trying to get at. Thank you so much, Lloyd. Appreciate it, guys.

Speaker 2

All right.

Operator

The next question is from Richard Sunderland with JPMorgan. Line is open.

Speaker 5

Hi, good morning and thank you for the time today.

Speaker 2

Good morning, Richard. Good morning, Richard.

Speaker 5

Thanks. Starting with this Indiana ROFR legislation, how do you see this impacting your transmission opportunities? Any way to quantify the magnitude of impact here or what you're focused on now on the back of this?

Speaker 2

1, let me start with, we're really excited about the ROFR legislation. It got signed by the governor yesterday in Indiana and we see that as an opportunity for the Nipsco utility in Indiana along with the other utilities. But I'll let Melody, who is President of our regulated utilities, I can't answer any more detail.

Speaker 7

Hi there. As Lloyd said, this is Melody. Yes, we are excited about the Signage of the ROFR legislation. We see this as a great opportunity for our company as well as our customers Because this legislation will allow us to build, own and operate those transmission assets on our system. So we're looking forward to being able to engage in doing so as this is something that helps this bill helps provide clarity For us to be able to build on and operate transmission?

Speaker 2

So again, upside to our capital plan. You saw On our what page was that on Slide 8? On Slide 8, some of the potential upside to our capital plan that was transmission build. This will solidify our opportunity to build those, But continue to work with MISO to quantify the magnitude of those opportunities. So that's upcoming in the future.

Speaker 5

Understood. Very clear. And then just one small cleanup question for me. Lloyd, it sounds like the O and M focus And the outlook there is unchanged. Just wanted to briefly address the language on Slide 4 in the slides.

Speaker 5

It looks like that has changed a little bit though around A flat O and M in the last slide versus the new language in the 1Q deck. Is that indicative of anything or any change in the backdrop? Just wanted to be clear

Speaker 2

No, I think our focus hasn't changed at all. We laid out at Investor Day flat O and M through 2027 and we'll continue to focus on that. We've instituted Project Apollo, a similar team of people. We have a set of initiatives that we've established to Drive that cost out of the business and we're on track to accomplish that. So flat through 2027.

Speaker 5

Got it. Very clear. Thank you for the time today.

Speaker 1

You're welcome.

Operator

The next question is from Durgesh Chhabra with Evercore ISI. Your line is open.

Speaker 8

Hey, good morning team. Thanks for taking my questions.

Speaker 2

Good morning.

Speaker 8

Good morning, Lloyd. Just a finer point on the NIPSCO process. Maybe can you just At a high level, talk about the interest in those assets and has that changed since you sort of announced that process Or at least announced the sale at the Analyst Day last year.

Speaker 4

Sean? Hey, Durgesh, how are you? Good morning. We've observed a broad range of qualified buyers, all of which are positioned to help NIPSCO and NiSource realize its strategic goals. We remain confident this is the right audience to help evaluate a partnership with NiSource just as we laid out in November.

Speaker 4

We're also confident this is the process That we've launched Aetas to a successful outcome this year. So the summary, I think, to your questions, Durgesh, is no change.

Speaker 8

Got it. Thank you. That's very clear. And then maybe if I can just ask you Sean, just in terms of We've seen a lot of accretive convert being issued in the market. I know you have a small amount of equity, potential equity in the plan 20, 25 plus.

Speaker 8

Any thoughts on that front? Could that be a financing opportunity that you could explore?

Speaker 4

Well, 1st and foremost, just to reiterate, there's no change to the financing plan, which we shared at our Investor Day in November. And To your point, we don't see the need for any equity in the plan until no earlier than 2025. Obviously, we'll evaluate the marketplace Between now and then and evaluate what opportunities we have to maximize the greatest value for our shareholders, both minimizing the need for equity And or minimizing the need for any ancillary interest expense that we would otherwise have as drag. And as I'd say, in the context of evaluating things, we're considering that 14% to 16% FFO to debt range. And the opportunities we have to create organic cash flow inside our business can also be an augmentation to drive greater FFO.

Speaker 4

That's an area of focus for us, which will also help us minimize financing. So the fundamental point, no change to anything that we've laid out since November, But we'll be active in minimizing financing costs across our business and all avenues.

Speaker 8

Understood. Thanks, guys, and congrats on all the leadership announcements and showing to you on your first call as CFO.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Dukas. Appreciate it very much. Appreciate your support.

Operator

The next question is from Julien Dumoulin Smith with Bank of America. Your line is open.

Speaker 2

Good morning, gentlemen.

Speaker 9

Hey, good morning, team. Hey, thank you for the time. I appreciate it. Hey, look, let me just actually recap a prior question quickly. Just with respect to the M and A commentary earlier, Lloyd, I know you were trying to be a little bit more catch all.

Speaker 9

But Geographically, is there an interest in any particular region or any kind of type of asset? I mean, when you think you open up that can of worms, I'm just curious if you have any thoughts On what direction or regionally?

Speaker 2

I don't believe I opened up that can of worms. What I believe I said Whether we don't comment on market rumors or M and A and that we are really focused So on executing the plan that we laid out on Investor Day, growing rate base 8% to 10% And invest in $15,000,000,000 in capital across NiSource. On the other hand, what I did say, if someone wants to sell something to us At one time, it's rate base. Give us a call.

Speaker 9

Okay. All right. Fair enough. I wanted to put a cap on it. All right, excellent.

Speaker 9

Thank you. And then speaking of other issues discussed, you addressed ROFR, you alluded to the transmission opportunity in the slide. But then if I can pivot back here and talk a little bit more specifically, can you comment about your thought process on other legislation, right? There are Few other things out there as best I can tell that could potentially add to your investment and or risk or de risk your profile in the legislature?

Speaker 2

Any specific state you're interested in Talking about general?

Speaker 9

Sorry, Indiana. Sorry, I apologize. I was thinking Indiana. I should have said that, right? I know we addressed the ROFR.

Speaker 9

There's a few other things pending. Any thoughts on the?

Speaker 2

Melanie?

Speaker 7

Hi there, Julian. When it comes to mind is House Bill 1421 and that's The natural gas generation bill, I don't know if that's what you're referring to, but prior to this bill, this was signed by the governor. And so prior to the bill, CPCN for our natural gas projects had no maximum time for the IURC to issue an order. However, now the order must be issued no later than 240 days after the filing for CPCN. So that is positive.

Speaker 7

It provides us again more clarity and assurance to receive a bill as we're trying to move forward with generation. So that's a positive. But from what I've seen, Julian, we have such a healthy regulatory Environment in Indiana, and we've worked with our commission, public staff as well as Stakeholders to make sure we're doing what's best for the utility or customers in the state. So there may be more to come, But at this time, ROFR is a great, Bill, a great outcome that will allow us to continue to invest in our transmission system.

Speaker 2

And to add on to what Melody said, I think that the legislative environment in Indiana is also really healthy With respect to utilities, balance and reliability, affordability, clean energy And customer needs. And we like doing business there. We are intimately involved with talking to All of the stakeholders and we think it's a great place to live and do business.

Speaker 9

Excellent. All right. I will leave it

Speaker 3

there, but thank you guys. We'll follow-up offline.

Speaker 2

Thank

Operator

The next question is from Travis Miller with Morningstar. Your line is open.

Speaker 10

Thank you. Good morning, everyone.

Speaker 2

Good morning. Good morning, Travis.

Speaker 10

I wonder if you could dig a little more into the weather Impact for the quarter, I saw the $32,000,000 Wondering if there was any additional in operating revenues and then related, I suppose, What the decoupling or recovery, weather recovery mechanisms would be across the jurisdictions?

Speaker 2

John, why don't you take that one?

Speaker 4

Sure thing. Hey, great question. As we experienced we did experience a drop in heat and degree days, which the sector is more broadly realized here in Quarter. And certainly, we watch these weather impacts as we understand how they translate into both build volatility up or down for as well as financing costs in terms of working capital. To your point, weather decoupling mechanisms across our service territories In Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Kentucky and Maryland, help provide some level of cash flow stabilization during these weather volatile moments, Such as Q4 2022, but also, of course, what we just experienced here in this quarter.

Speaker 4

The highlight of these mechanisms, just to remind folks, I'm sure you all know, but Best in class mechanism in Ohio. It's a straight fixed variable rate design in Ohio, our largest LDC, nearly 1,500,000 customers. It provides a complete mitigation on the margin impact for NiSource associated with weather and usage. So all of that is a strong A visibility item for us around what revenues we can realize across our service territories when weather goes up or goes down. And again, it also provides Better bill stabilization for our customers, particularly for a gas business in the Q1 when bills tend to be higher than usual, It helps to mitigate the overall cost to the customer and provide better line of sight with a higher fixed charge like Ohio has.

Speaker 10

Okay. Is it fair then to say that Indiana weather impacts are in operating revenues?

Speaker 9

Is that

Speaker 10

the way to interpret the accounting? Okay. And then unrelated to that, wondering On the settlement in Indiana on the electric side, is there anything in there that you think regulators Mike, push back on that that could delay the approval process.

Speaker 2

So the answer to that would be generally no. If you look at the our history in Indiana, The Indiana Commission for the most part has approved the settlements that the parties have submitted and we don't expect to see anything different.

Speaker 10

Okay, great. I appreciate the time.

Operator

We have no further questions at this time. I'll turn it over to Lloyd Yates for any closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Appreciate. Thanks for the questions. Thanks for supporting NiSource. Looking forward to seeing everyone at the AGA Financial Conference. Have a great day.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now

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