Yatra Online Q4 2023 Earnings Report $0.60 -0.07 (-11.01%) As of 03:48 PM Eastern This is a fair market value price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Yatra Online EPS ResultsActual EPS-$0.01Consensus EPS -$0.01Beat/MissMet ExpectationsOne Year Ago EPSN/AYatra Online Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$23.05 millionExpected Revenue$19.87 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$3.18 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AYatra Online Announcement DetailsQuarterQ4 2023Date5/30/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateTuesday, May 30, 2023Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsYatra Online's Q4 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 29, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Friday, May 30, 2025 at 7:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (6-K)Earnings HistoryYTRA ProfilePowered by Yatra Online Q4 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 30, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the Yatra's 4th Quarter and Full Year 2023 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Carla, and I will be your moderator for today's call. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions and answers at the end. I would now like to pass the conference over to our host, Manish Hamrajani. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:31Thank you, Carla. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to Yahtzra's fiscal Q4 FY 'twenty three financial results for the period ended March 31, 2023. As always, I'm pleased to be joined in the call today by Yatra's CEO and Co Founder, Dhruv Shringi and CFO, Rohan Mittag. The following discussion, including responses to your questions, Reflects management views as of today, May 30, 2023. Speaker 100:01:02We don't undertake any obligation to update or revise the information. Before we begin our formal remarks, allow me to remind you that certain statements made on today's call may constitute forward looking statements, which are based on management's current expectations and beliefs and are subject to several risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. For a description of these risks, please refer to our filings with the SEC and our press release filed earlier this morning. Copies of this and other filings are available from the SEC and also on the IR section of our website at investors. Yatra.com. Speaker 100:01:50With that, let me turn the call over to Dhruv. Dhruv, please go ahead. Speaker 200:01:58Thank you, Manish, and good morning, everyone. Also, thank you for joining us today for our Q4 earnings call of fiscal 20 20 We wrapped up the Q4 of fiscal 2023 with our strongest quarter yet since the onset of COVID. We registered an exceptional year over year growth of 97.4% in revenue and 93.3% in adjusted revenue. This strong performance is attributed to the market recovering and us also gaining share in recent quarters in both our consumer and corporate travel businesses. And this has enabled us to achieve the highest incentive levels with most of our airline and GDS Contracts for the full fiscal year 2023. Speaker 200:02:45India's domestic passenger traffic saw sequential growth of 4.6% in the quarter ended March 2023 compared to this, our domestic passenger traffic grew 33% sequentially, reflecting strong market share gains for both our consumer and Notably, we signed a record number of 97 medium to large corporate customers in the year ended March 31, 2023. This is a testament to our corporate segment leadership and capabilities and the continued recovery in the travel sector. On the consumer side, our strong brand and high brand recall helped grow the B2C business also significantly faster than the industry growth rate. A favorable macroeconomic backdrop with the domestic travel market in India surpassing pre COVID levels also contributed to our impressive turnaround. Our revenue and adjusted revenue for the quarter ended 31st March, 2023 were reportedly at INR 1,190,000,000, which is US14.5 million dollars approximately and INR US1.89 billion dollars which is US23.1 million dollars respectively. Speaker 200:03:59These were well ahead of our projected guidance range of US19.5 million dollars to US19.5 million dollars in adjusted revenue issued last quarter. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter reached INR 185,600,000 which is approximately USD2,300,000 marking a significant increase of 2 51% year over year. The domestic aviation in India Between quarter 4 of fiscal year 20222023 grew 52% year over year, Reflecting a swift recovery from the lows of COVID and the long term growth trajectory for the Indian travel market remains very positive. This positive momentum has carried over into the new fiscal year as well with April 2023 domestic air traffic rising 17% year over year to 12,900,000 passengers. International travel Has also shown a steady improvement during the quarter ended March 31, 2023. Speaker 200:05:03It reached approximately 90% of pre COVID levels as well. As we move forward, we remain optimistic and committed to leveraging these positive trends to drive further growth and success. I'll now give you a quick update on our ongoing IPO process in India. As you might recall, Yatra Online Limited, our Indian Sudhir, also referred to as Yatra India, filed a draft red herring prospectus on March 25, 2022 with Sebi. This is in preparation for a potential initial public offering in India. Speaker 200:05:38The plan includes listing Yatra India's equity shares on the Indian Stock Exchange Hence referred to as the Indian IPO. On November 17, 2022, we received the final observation letter from Sedi indicating that the IPO can open for subscription within a year from the set date. In light of this, we embarked on our India investor outreach in the early parts of the March quarter. This involved engaging with prominent investors in India, including leading domestic mutual funds, Family offices and hedge funds in the Indian market. The feedback has been very positive due to our strong performance, The evident recovery of both consumer and corporate travel businesses in India and the favorable macro trends that suggest a potential for substantial growth in the sector for years to come. Speaker 200:06:29However, due to the broader macro environment in the global market, the investor feedback process has been lengthier than what we anticipated. Despite this, we have noted that key investors continue to express interest and engage. Our strong operating performance and macro tailwinds behind the industry give us the confidence in our prospects for a successful IPO in the near future. Aside from bolstering our financial position, we believe that this offering will provide us with the opportunity to be more assertive, pursue new corporate businesses And also explore strategic alliances with partners who might not have been comfortable with an overseas structure in the past. Moving on to further details on the quarter. Speaker 200:07:17Our consumer business gained further momentum on the back of the strong brand recall that the yatra.com brand continues to enjoy in the market. And during the quarter, we closed 25 new corporate customers To close the full year with a record number of large and medium corporate customer signings of 97 As corporate travel continues to recover strongly post COVID. International travel also continues to improve. As I mentioned earlier, it exited at about 90% of pre COVID levels and with the lifting of all restrictions now pretty much across Asia Pacific, We expect recovery in international travel to be pretty brisk and we expect international travel to make up for some of the lost ground over the course of the last 12 months. On the hotel front, our adjusted revenue was up 49.3% year over year With standalone room nights up 34% year over year, packages grew 35%, albeit from a small base. Speaker 200:08:20From a competitive standpoint, the intensity has remained stable from last quarter and remains manageable overall. In our drive for innovation in AI and Data Sciences and accelerating corporate sales growth and technology innovation, We made 2 key appointments this quarter. We welcome Doctor. Shati Goyal, a seasoned technologist From IIT Delhi and MIT as Chief Scientist and Chief Data Architect, We also welcomed Tarun Kumar Bakri as Vice President, Corporate Sales. He is a seasoned sales leader with 3 decades of travel domain experience And in his last role, let American Express its sales efforts in India. Speaker 200:09:07From a macro standpoint, the Indian government remains strongly committed to the growth of Airport Infrastructure in India, an investment of roughly $3,300,000,000 has been earmarked for expenditure through FY 2026, Signifying the substantial commitment towards infrastructure development. More than 70 projects worth approximately RMB 2,200,000,000 are projected for completion by mid-twenty 24. These projects encompass a wide array of improvements and expansions across several Indian cities. Notable initiatives include the construction of a new greenfield airport in Rajkot, extension of terminal buildings in Surat and Goa, Expansion of the civil enclave at Gwalior Airport and the construction of a new ADC tower in Calcutta amongst others. Additionally, The government predicts a massive investment influx into India's aviation sector in the coming years. Speaker 200:10:03Over the next 3 years, it is estimated that both private airport operators And the state owned Airport Authority of India will invest approximately $12,000,000,000 into this sector. This significant financial infusion is anticipated to increase the number of operational airports from the current tally of 140 to over 200. This strategic investment aligns with the government's vision of enhancing accessibility and connectivity across the nation. On the liquidity front, as of March 31, 2023, the balance of cash and cash equivalents and term deposits on our balance sheet It was INR 1,090,000,000, which is approximately USD 13,300,000. We plan to also start repaying the MAC debt facility that we had taken on towards the end of calendar year 2022. Speaker 200:11:00We will start paying this off in tranches starting with the 1st tranche by June 30 and expect to repay the entire facility before its due date. We believe we remain adequately capitalized and have sufficient working capital facilities in place to continue to fund the robust growth in our corporate business. Given the ongoing recovery in corporate and leisure travel, our continued success in signing new large and medium sized enterprise customers, We believe we are poised for a strong FY 2024. Aside from seasonality, we expect our results to benefit from accelerating growth in both our corporate business And consumer business as we continue to add to our formidable blue chip customer base and leverage the strength of our brand. Just to reiterate, Today, Yatra serves 1 out of 4 of the top 100 listed companies in India by market cap, 3 out of the big 4 accounting firms and 3 of the top 5 technology companies in India amongst others. Speaker 200:12:04Now on to guidance for FY 2024. Based on macro factors and our quarterly trends to date, We anticipate an adjusted revenue range of USD88,000,000 to USD92,000,000 In constant currency for FY 2024, which translates to a growth range of approximately 18% to 23%. Taking advantage of the leverage in our business model, we anticipate that the adjusted EBITDA will grow at a much faster pace of 46% to 50% in FY 2024. Before I hand over to Rohan to walk you through the financial performance in more detail, I would like to talk about the recent bankruptcy protection filing by Go Air. On May 2, 2023, Go Airlines India Limited or Go First, 1 of the smaller domestic airlines, Filed an application for voluntary insolvency resolution proceedings before the National Company Law Tribunal in India, Citing the supplier of faulty aircraft engines and failure of its engine supplier to replace them on time, which resulted in grounding up half of its fleet and consequent operational and financial issues. Speaker 200:13:20On May 10, 2023, the company law tribunal Admitted the application and granted protection to go first by imposing a moratorium against recovery by lessors, lenders and other creditors to go first. In addition, the company law tribunal has appointed an interim resolution professional to operate Go First and To maintain go first as a growing concern, Yatra India has made the appropriate filing With the interim resolution of professional in connection with its claims and as of date, Perov GoFirst has suspended all flights until May 30, 2023. GoAir's market share at the time of its filing for bankruptcy was approximately 6.4%. Hence, it's one of the relatively smaller airlines operating in India. And given the amount of incremental capacity being added in the country by the other airlines, We expect only a marginal impact on our business of Goel's bankruptcy. Speaker 200:14:22While we remain optimistic that Goel will commence operations in the near term, We have, as a matter of prudence, created a one time provision of INR 39,000,000 against the full amount that was due to us from GoAir at the time of this filing. Finally, I would like to express my deepest appreciation to our dedicated employees And shareholders for their unwavering support. With that, let me hand it over to Rohan to walk you through the details of the financial performance. Hello, Speaker 300:14:53thank you, Ruth. I will now review our quarter flow numbers with the grants of March 2023, followed by full year FY 'twenty three results. For the March quarter, our adjusted revenue increased by 93.3% On a year on year basis to INR 1,900,000,000, the strong growth was driven by a rebound In the air passenger traffic by about 53%, further supported by an increase in the needs, Resulting in an overall 119% increase in air ticketing adjusted revenue to INR 1,500,000,000. Adjusted revenue for Hotels and Packages was up 49% to INR268 1,000,000 On the back of a 34% growth in booked room nights. As the macro travel trends continue to witness strong tailwinds, We were able to grow our gross bookings to INR17.8 billion in quarter 4, Registering our YOY growth of 56%. Speaker 300:16:03It's important to note here that hotel and packages gross bookings doubled on a year on year basis, reflecting strength in corporate uptake of hotels. Turning to expenses. Quarter 4 marketing and sales promotion expenses, Including a netback for consumer promotions and loyalty program costs increased by 144% to INR1.05 billion. This enabled us to gain market share and unlock higher threshold of income from DBS and Airline Supplies. Our personnel expenses increased by 10% on a year on year basis to INR 279 1,000,000 during quarter 4. Speaker 300:16:48The increase from the prior year was primarily due to the impact of Reven statement of salary to pre pandemic levels, annual salary appraisals and marginal increase in headcount keeping in line with the overall business growth. The moderate increase relative to the 93% jump in adjusted revenue for the same period reinforces the operating leverage That is based on the back of automation of back end processes as well as the adoption of self booking tools in our corporate business. Other operating expenses in quarter 4 increased by 48.5 percent Y01 to INR407 1,000,000. This was driven by an increase in commission, legal and professional charges, payment gateway charges and provision for doubtful receivables. The net impact of all these factors led to a 3.5x Year on year jump in adjusted EBITDA from CAD53 1,000,000 in quarter 4 FY 2022 to CAD185.6 million in quarter 4 FY 2023. Speaker 300:17:55On the back of a robust growth in our staffing account, we were able to achieve higher thresholds of incentives with our GDS and Airline Supplies. These incremental incentives net of provisions made them prudently account For the ongoing go first insolvency led to a net positive impact to the tune of approximately INR 80,000,000 And our adjusted EBITDA for quarter 4. Now coming to the full year FY 'twenty three numbers, we have recorded an adjusted revenue of INR6 €200,000,000 reflecting an 86% growth year on year over FY 2022. This is registered primarily on the back of A 96% year on year growth in adjusted revenue from air and a 78% growth in adjusted revenue from hotels and packages. At the quantitative level, air passengers booked saw a 56% year on year growth in FY 'twenty three versus FY 'twenty two, while room nights booked increased by 72% during the same period. Speaker 300:19:02Due to all these factors, we were able to register an adjusted EBITDA Profit of INR433 million in FY2023 versus an adjusted EBITDA loss of INR 159 1,000,000 in FY 2022. Lastly, as of March 31, 2023, The balance of cash, cash equivalents and term deposits was INR1.09 billion. This was marginally higher than the December quarter balance of 1,080,000,000. With this, We conclude our prepared remarks and handing back to the moderator for the Q and A. Thank you. Operator00:19:52Thank you. Our first question comes from Scott Buck from H. C. Wainwright. Your line is now open. Speaker 400:20:36Hi, good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking my questions. First one for me, Dhruv, it looks like if I look at year over year adjusted revenue growth, Hotels and packages seems to be lagging air ticketing by quite a bit. I'm just curious if you could talk a little bit about the dynamics there and whether there's An opportunity for that to accelerate here in coming quarters? Speaker 200:21:02Sure. So firstly, good morning, Scott. In terms of hotels and packages, if you look at the numbers from an adjusted revenue standpoint, hotels and packages grew 49% year over year in the quarter, right? So it's not by any means slow growth. It's just Speaker 400:21:22relative to where, Speaker 200:21:23which grew at about 120%, right? So 49.3% looks relatively low, But still pretty impressive growth. On the hotel side, we do expect to see continued growth happening. The implementation cycle typically on hotels or corporate customers tends to be a bit longer than air. Hotels is more of a curated product, right? Speaker 200:21:48As you can imagine, different corporates will have different requirements of hotels. The geographic areas will Very the kind of hotels that they want their employees to stay at will vary. So it's a very curated list that gets created For corporate customers and hence there is a slightly longer growth path or implementation cycle for that. But we expect to see strong growth continuing to happen out there as we go forward as well. So it's not a case of it lagging. Speaker 200:22:17I mean, yes, In relative terms, it's lagging air growth, but it's not that it's not growing by itself. It will continue to grow In strong ranges going forward as well. I appreciate that. But actually, Speaker 100:22:33if you look at But if you look at gross bookings, our hotel and packages gross bookings actually grew at about 100% Year over year. So bear to bear dickening. Speaker 400:22:46Yes. No, I see that. Thanks. I appreciate that, Manish. Second one, Dhruv, historically, what has international been as a percentage of revenue, if you go back pre COVID, I guess? Speaker 200:22:58So historically, international has been close to it's been hovering between 25% to 30% in revenue terms pre COVID. Speaker 400:23:08Okay. And what is it today? Speaker 200:23:12So today, it's still less than 20%. Speaker 400:23:16Yes. Speaker 200:23:17It's recovering quickly, but what's also played out very strongly is that we've seen Traffic on the domestic side will really be on a pair. Travel in India is becoming much more deep seated And expanding into Tier 2, Tier 3 markets and the strength of our brand continues to resonate in these markets. And as we are seeing more and more traffic pickup, right, we are seeing stronger growth happening on the B2C domestic AI. We do expect international to also continue to grow strongly. But at this point, domestic air is growing really strongly on the B2C side. Speaker 200:23:57On the corporate front, it's more or less a case of all boats driving, right? We are seeing strong growth happening on both domestic And international on the corporate front year over year. Speaker 400:24:10Yes. That makes a lot of sense. And then last one for me. You guys have done a really nice job with the OpEx controls and kind of maintaining Lower rate of growth there versus what you're seeing in the top line. I'm curious, how confident are you that, that Can continue into 2024? Speaker 400:24:29It sounds like from the guidance that you feel pretty comfortable that you can kind of keep costs under control here. Speaker 200:24:37Right. So on the work of the automation efforts that we've undertaken for the last Now coming on to 3 plus years, Scott. We are fairly confident that we'll be able to keep our costs broadly in check. There is a lot of time and effort that has gone into making the back end fairly automated and scalable. In addition to that, the change in consumer behavior that we are seeing on the corporate side with more and more employees self booking is also looking like an A reversible one. Speaker 200:25:09It's unlikely that having now spent the last 6, 8 months doing pretty much everything on their own, Employees will go back into an offline mode and go back into reverting to calls and emails. So I think these trends are fairly permanent in nature And I would expect to see this leverage continue into the coming years as well. Speaker 400:25:32Great. That's helpful. Congrats on the quarter guys. Thank you very much. Speaker 200:25:37Thank you, Scott. Operator00:25:43Our next question comes from Anja Sodersholm from Sidoti. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:25:50Hi. Thank you for taking my question and congratulations for the good quarter. So I'm just curious about What is the margin difference between the business and the leisure revenue streams? And What are the main drivers for the margin and profit improvement going forward? Speaker 200:26:13So the margin in terms of operating margin, the corporate business would be high teens to getting into 20% kind of range. And this is once we get back to the full pre COVID scale, which is where we are now pretty close to. And on the B2C side of things, it would be in the high single digits In terms of operating margin, the main growth drivers and profitability drivers on the corporate side, We've got strong operating leverage coming in on account of employees adopting technology. So it's reducing the amount of manpower that we need to support The same amount of business, right? So that's giving us strong leverage and it also provides a much more scalable model That your employee cost does not go up linearly, but instead ends up growing in only a step function. Speaker 200:27:04So we are seeing strong leverage on that. On the B2C side, while there is leverage and all other costs, the overall profitability of the B2C business is driven to a certain By the competitive intensity and the competitive landscape, at this point, the competitive landscape has been fairly stable And that's allowing us to both gain market share because we've got a very strong brand in the market. So the minute the competitive landscape is more neutral, It leads to organic traffic growth for us and improved conversions for us, and we are seeing the effect of that play through. And that's what we are counting on going forward as well. We don't see the environment changing quite drastically. Speaker 200:27:46So to that extent at this It seems like all boats are rising, all guns are firing, right, and business is growing very strongly. Speaker 500:27:56Okay. Thank you. And in terms of the IPO timing, is there anything additional you can tell us there? Is there any sort of deadline you have for that, that It has to be done by or? Speaker 200:28:09The outside limit on that is 16th November. So it can be done and priced anytime before 16th November of 2023. We are Actually, as we put in our commentary as well, engaged in conversations with investors. We had to give it a break because we were in a quiet period, but now again, the process We'll start once the results are now that the results are out in public. Speaker 500:28:37Okay. Thank you. And given that we're 2 months into the Have you seen that acceleration in the packages growth continue Into the fiscal Q1 as well or what are you seeing in this quarter? Speaker 200:28:54Yes. So the momentum that we saw in Q4, We continue to see that carry forward into Q1 as well of the current fiscal year. Speaker 500:29:05Okay. Thank you. That was all for me. Speaker 200:29:09Sure. Thank Operator00:29:21Our next question comes from. So we currently have no further questions. Speaker 600:29:29So Karla, Speaker 100:29:34I have a couple of questions that have come over email. Speaker 400:29:37Karla, if I may. Speaker 600:29:38Okay. Yes, of course. Operator00:29:41Go ahead. Speaker 100:29:43Sure. Can you talk about the market share gains in Air that you've seen this quarter? What is causing that and how do you expect to see that trending in the near to medium term? Speaker 200:29:55Sure. The growth in market share on the air side is coming in on account of Us gaining share on the back of the strength of the brand and also opening up new online channels of distribution Where we are now gaining the market share. We expect the growth to continue to be steady and much faster than market, Right. Market itself is expected to grow in the early teens. We expect our growth to far outpace the growth in the market. Speaker 200:30:28So we expect our gains to be permanent in nature. We don't expect these to be short lived gains, so to speak. We've also seen given that travel is going deeper and deeper into Tier 2, Tier 3 markets and there's strong demand emerging from these sectors, The strength of our brand continues to resonate in these markets and that's also helping us gain more market share. And likewise, on the corporate side, we've got new customer signings. We've signed 97 new customers. Speaker 200:30:58That's the highest ever In terms of new customer signings that we've done and that also as these customers end up getting implemented, We'll continue to accelerate our market share gains. Speaker 100:31:13Thank you, Dhruv. I have one more. Can you add some color initiatives in the Middle East and African markets? And what kind of contribution can we expect from these initiatives? What other markets are you looking at going forward? Speaker 200:31:33Sure. So it's relatively early days, Manish, when it comes to opening up of newer markets. We have established a toehold In the Middle East and African markets, and we are exploring a couple of other markets in Southeast Asia as well. The software business and software as a service business and software The platform, the way we are trying to pitch is a very high EBITDA margin business. We do expect that this is a kind of business that can over the next 2 years, deliver a 50 plus percent kind of operating margin. Speaker 200:32:05But as of today, it's still relatively early days. And like a large SaaS platform sale, it will have a slightly long gestation period to sell, but once implemented, Should have a relatively high lifetime value. Speaker 100:32:24Thank you, Zug. That's all I have from the e mail questions. Speaker 700:32:27Sure. Speaker 100:32:28Carla, over to you. Back to the queue. Yes. Operator00:32:33So we do have a few more questions now. So if we go to Lisa Thompson from Zacks Investment Research. Speaker 600:32:44Good morning. Operator00:32:44The line is now open. Speaker 600:32:47Thank you. You cited that you had reached the highest payout slabs this quarter. Could you discuss how that works? And Do they reset? Is it a time thing? Speaker 600:33:02And now that you're up there, are they going to change the hurdle for you? Speaker 200:33:08Yes, it's a good question, Lisa. So typically what will happen is in most contracts, there will be a tiered structure which will be there, That based on the volume that you end up delivering, you end up getting incremental amounts as you keep going into the next higher slab. And typically, this payout will start from 0 and go to the threshold. So if you get, let's say, a slab moving from 2% to 2.5%, Then that 0.5 percent extra that you get is on your total sale. So that's the way the slabs will typically work. Speaker 200:33:42These labs are set, these contracts are negotiated for one particular fiscal year and then they start again. Similarly, in the case of the GDS contract, there is a particular threshold that we need to meet. If you are below that threshold, then there is A lower payout which ends up happening. And if you achieve that threshold, then there is a higher payout that ends up happening. Speaker 600:34:08Okay. So do they change it this year now that your year is over to higher numbers or To make it harder to reach? Speaker 200:34:17In a few cases they will. But typically the growth which is there in the slabs Is in line or the target is in line with market growth and capacity growth. So let's say if an airline is adding 6%, 7% incremental capacity, then the growth will be more or less linked into that plus a couple of percentage points. So we don't think that these slabs will in any way be reset to an extent that will make it Unachievable for us in the coming years. Speaker 600:34:52Okay. And is this why you beat your guidance? Is this why you beat the guidance? Speaker 200:34:58That's why we beat our guidance. Yes, because we were able to achieve the higher thresholds And that higher threshold brought out an incremental payout for the full year. Speaker 600:35:10Okay, excellent. Just curious, Do you think that you're going to be staying profitable? Or is there seasonality involved in that? Speaker 200:35:20No. We expect to remain profitable. So despite the lower seasons, which will come in especially in the July, August, September period, we do expect business to continue to be profitable quarter on quarter. Speaker 600:35:36Fantastic. So my last question is, do you have some sort of idea of What percent of revenues come from corporate versus consumer? Speaker 200:35:47So peak COVID, we were getting about half and half of our revenue coming from corporate and consumer. I mean, we are now getting to a stage where we are getting closer and closer to about a sixty-forty kind of split Between corporate and consumer, that would be for the full year. Speaker 600:36:09Thank you so much. Looking forward to Operator00:36:20Thank you, Lisa. Our next question comes from Cobb Sadler from Catamount. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:36:35Hey, guys. Congrats on the numbers and the outlook. It looks like the corporate investments you've been making are Starting to pay dividends and inflect. I had a question from the press release. I think you mentioned that the local listing Would help you or enable you to maybe strike some partnerships or maybe did you say strategic investment Or joint venture, could you tell us to the extent that you can, what you have in mind there? Speaker 700:37:05Thanks a lot. Speaker 200:37:09Sure, Gautam. So there isn't really anything specific on that talk that I can point you towards, But that's more in terms of a general description of the kind of opportunities which exist. There are Indian corporates which are reluctant Because of, let's say, RBI Reserve Bank of India, which is the Central Bank of India, Central Bank restrictions on overseas investments and all of it reluctant To look at overseas markets and hence it will provide them an alternative to look at partnerships, Strategic investments and those kinds of opportunities with the Aptra in India. But there isn't really anything specific that we are pointing towards As this statement alludes to, it's not that we are pointing to anything specific to the statement. It's more of a generic statement of the kind of potential opportunities that would exist. Speaker 700:38:02Got it. And is that so I'm assuming it's not aspirational. I'm assuming historically you probably had some sort of interest In doing things like this and you want to be able to kind of move on them, is that the idea? Or is it just Once you get the local currency, the local listing that you will be able to pursue things like that or is it both? Thanks. Speaker 700:38:25And I have one follow-up. Speaker 200:38:29Rob, it would not be possible for me to comment on that, especially Speaker 400:38:34in Speaker 200:38:34terms of any historical thing, which has May or may not have transpired. Speaker 700:38:39I understand that. Okay. And then on I believe Manish said that the IPO talks Or investor meetings or marketing would resume. Did I have that right after Now that you put your numbers out, is that do you have a plan for that as the bankers kind of in I guess you're probably limited to what you can say on this, but To what extent, I guess, like what yes, you can't ask you when you expect the IPO to happen, but I guess, at minimum, talks are going to resume. Is that right? Speaker 700:39:13Can you add any other color? Speaker 200:39:16Yes. I think, now that we've got the results out there, this Something that we would be updating investors with. And as you can see, there is strong momentum in the results and there is strong tailwind behind the business. So this is something that we would be updating investors with. Speaker 700:39:34Okay. All right. Well, that sounds good. Congrats on the numbers. Excellent numbers. Speaker 200:39:40Thank you so much, Bob. Operator00:39:44We currently have no further questions. So I'll hand back The management team for any final remarks. Speaker 100:39:54Thank you. Thank you everyone for joining the call today. And as always, we are available by e mail or over the phone. Dhruv, any final remarks? Speaker 200:40:05Now just would like to thank again everyone for their continued support. As you would have seen in this quarter's numbers, we are seeing strong traction Behind the business and we expect the business to continue to perform well over the quarters to come. So thank you once again for your continued support.Read moreRemove AdsPowered by Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallYatra Online Q4 202300:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xRemove Ads Earnings DocumentsPress Release(6-K) Yatra Online Earnings HeadlinesYatra Online, Inc. 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There are 8 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome to the Yatra's 4th Quarter and Full Year 2023 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Carla, and I will be your moderator for today's call. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions and answers at the end. I would now like to pass the conference over to our host, Manish Hamrajani. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:31Thank you, Carla. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to Yahtzra's fiscal Q4 FY 'twenty three financial results for the period ended March 31, 2023. As always, I'm pleased to be joined in the call today by Yatra's CEO and Co Founder, Dhruv Shringi and CFO, Rohan Mittag. The following discussion, including responses to your questions, Reflects management views as of today, May 30, 2023. Speaker 100:01:02We don't undertake any obligation to update or revise the information. Before we begin our formal remarks, allow me to remind you that certain statements made on today's call may constitute forward looking statements, which are based on management's current expectations and beliefs and are subject to several risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. For a description of these risks, please refer to our filings with the SEC and our press release filed earlier this morning. Copies of this and other filings are available from the SEC and also on the IR section of our website at investors. Yatra.com. Speaker 100:01:50With that, let me turn the call over to Dhruv. Dhruv, please go ahead. Speaker 200:01:58Thank you, Manish, and good morning, everyone. Also, thank you for joining us today for our Q4 earnings call of fiscal 20 20 We wrapped up the Q4 of fiscal 2023 with our strongest quarter yet since the onset of COVID. We registered an exceptional year over year growth of 97.4% in revenue and 93.3% in adjusted revenue. This strong performance is attributed to the market recovering and us also gaining share in recent quarters in both our consumer and corporate travel businesses. And this has enabled us to achieve the highest incentive levels with most of our airline and GDS Contracts for the full fiscal year 2023. Speaker 200:02:45India's domestic passenger traffic saw sequential growth of 4.6% in the quarter ended March 2023 compared to this, our domestic passenger traffic grew 33% sequentially, reflecting strong market share gains for both our consumer and Notably, we signed a record number of 97 medium to large corporate customers in the year ended March 31, 2023. This is a testament to our corporate segment leadership and capabilities and the continued recovery in the travel sector. On the consumer side, our strong brand and high brand recall helped grow the B2C business also significantly faster than the industry growth rate. A favorable macroeconomic backdrop with the domestic travel market in India surpassing pre COVID levels also contributed to our impressive turnaround. Our revenue and adjusted revenue for the quarter ended 31st March, 2023 were reportedly at INR 1,190,000,000, which is US14.5 million dollars approximately and INR US1.89 billion dollars which is US23.1 million dollars respectively. Speaker 200:03:59These were well ahead of our projected guidance range of US19.5 million dollars to US19.5 million dollars in adjusted revenue issued last quarter. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter reached INR 185,600,000 which is approximately USD2,300,000 marking a significant increase of 2 51% year over year. The domestic aviation in India Between quarter 4 of fiscal year 20222023 grew 52% year over year, Reflecting a swift recovery from the lows of COVID and the long term growth trajectory for the Indian travel market remains very positive. This positive momentum has carried over into the new fiscal year as well with April 2023 domestic air traffic rising 17% year over year to 12,900,000 passengers. International travel Has also shown a steady improvement during the quarter ended March 31, 2023. Speaker 200:05:03It reached approximately 90% of pre COVID levels as well. As we move forward, we remain optimistic and committed to leveraging these positive trends to drive further growth and success. I'll now give you a quick update on our ongoing IPO process in India. As you might recall, Yatra Online Limited, our Indian Sudhir, also referred to as Yatra India, filed a draft red herring prospectus on March 25, 2022 with Sebi. This is in preparation for a potential initial public offering in India. Speaker 200:05:38The plan includes listing Yatra India's equity shares on the Indian Stock Exchange Hence referred to as the Indian IPO. On November 17, 2022, we received the final observation letter from Sedi indicating that the IPO can open for subscription within a year from the set date. In light of this, we embarked on our India investor outreach in the early parts of the March quarter. This involved engaging with prominent investors in India, including leading domestic mutual funds, Family offices and hedge funds in the Indian market. The feedback has been very positive due to our strong performance, The evident recovery of both consumer and corporate travel businesses in India and the favorable macro trends that suggest a potential for substantial growth in the sector for years to come. Speaker 200:06:29However, due to the broader macro environment in the global market, the investor feedback process has been lengthier than what we anticipated. Despite this, we have noted that key investors continue to express interest and engage. Our strong operating performance and macro tailwinds behind the industry give us the confidence in our prospects for a successful IPO in the near future. Aside from bolstering our financial position, we believe that this offering will provide us with the opportunity to be more assertive, pursue new corporate businesses And also explore strategic alliances with partners who might not have been comfortable with an overseas structure in the past. Moving on to further details on the quarter. Speaker 200:07:17Our consumer business gained further momentum on the back of the strong brand recall that the yatra.com brand continues to enjoy in the market. And during the quarter, we closed 25 new corporate customers To close the full year with a record number of large and medium corporate customer signings of 97 As corporate travel continues to recover strongly post COVID. International travel also continues to improve. As I mentioned earlier, it exited at about 90% of pre COVID levels and with the lifting of all restrictions now pretty much across Asia Pacific, We expect recovery in international travel to be pretty brisk and we expect international travel to make up for some of the lost ground over the course of the last 12 months. On the hotel front, our adjusted revenue was up 49.3% year over year With standalone room nights up 34% year over year, packages grew 35%, albeit from a small base. Speaker 200:08:20From a competitive standpoint, the intensity has remained stable from last quarter and remains manageable overall. In our drive for innovation in AI and Data Sciences and accelerating corporate sales growth and technology innovation, We made 2 key appointments this quarter. We welcome Doctor. Shati Goyal, a seasoned technologist From IIT Delhi and MIT as Chief Scientist and Chief Data Architect, We also welcomed Tarun Kumar Bakri as Vice President, Corporate Sales. He is a seasoned sales leader with 3 decades of travel domain experience And in his last role, let American Express its sales efforts in India. Speaker 200:09:07From a macro standpoint, the Indian government remains strongly committed to the growth of Airport Infrastructure in India, an investment of roughly $3,300,000,000 has been earmarked for expenditure through FY 2026, Signifying the substantial commitment towards infrastructure development. More than 70 projects worth approximately RMB 2,200,000,000 are projected for completion by mid-twenty 24. These projects encompass a wide array of improvements and expansions across several Indian cities. Notable initiatives include the construction of a new greenfield airport in Rajkot, extension of terminal buildings in Surat and Goa, Expansion of the civil enclave at Gwalior Airport and the construction of a new ADC tower in Calcutta amongst others. Additionally, The government predicts a massive investment influx into India's aviation sector in the coming years. Speaker 200:10:03Over the next 3 years, it is estimated that both private airport operators And the state owned Airport Authority of India will invest approximately $12,000,000,000 into this sector. This significant financial infusion is anticipated to increase the number of operational airports from the current tally of 140 to over 200. This strategic investment aligns with the government's vision of enhancing accessibility and connectivity across the nation. On the liquidity front, as of March 31, 2023, the balance of cash and cash equivalents and term deposits on our balance sheet It was INR 1,090,000,000, which is approximately USD 13,300,000. We plan to also start repaying the MAC debt facility that we had taken on towards the end of calendar year 2022. Speaker 200:11:00We will start paying this off in tranches starting with the 1st tranche by June 30 and expect to repay the entire facility before its due date. We believe we remain adequately capitalized and have sufficient working capital facilities in place to continue to fund the robust growth in our corporate business. Given the ongoing recovery in corporate and leisure travel, our continued success in signing new large and medium sized enterprise customers, We believe we are poised for a strong FY 2024. Aside from seasonality, we expect our results to benefit from accelerating growth in both our corporate business And consumer business as we continue to add to our formidable blue chip customer base and leverage the strength of our brand. Just to reiterate, Today, Yatra serves 1 out of 4 of the top 100 listed companies in India by market cap, 3 out of the big 4 accounting firms and 3 of the top 5 technology companies in India amongst others. Speaker 200:12:04Now on to guidance for FY 2024. Based on macro factors and our quarterly trends to date, We anticipate an adjusted revenue range of USD88,000,000 to USD92,000,000 In constant currency for FY 2024, which translates to a growth range of approximately 18% to 23%. Taking advantage of the leverage in our business model, we anticipate that the adjusted EBITDA will grow at a much faster pace of 46% to 50% in FY 2024. Before I hand over to Rohan to walk you through the financial performance in more detail, I would like to talk about the recent bankruptcy protection filing by Go Air. On May 2, 2023, Go Airlines India Limited or Go First, 1 of the smaller domestic airlines, Filed an application for voluntary insolvency resolution proceedings before the National Company Law Tribunal in India, Citing the supplier of faulty aircraft engines and failure of its engine supplier to replace them on time, which resulted in grounding up half of its fleet and consequent operational and financial issues. Speaker 200:13:20On May 10, 2023, the company law tribunal Admitted the application and granted protection to go first by imposing a moratorium against recovery by lessors, lenders and other creditors to go first. In addition, the company law tribunal has appointed an interim resolution professional to operate Go First and To maintain go first as a growing concern, Yatra India has made the appropriate filing With the interim resolution of professional in connection with its claims and as of date, Perov GoFirst has suspended all flights until May 30, 2023. GoAir's market share at the time of its filing for bankruptcy was approximately 6.4%. Hence, it's one of the relatively smaller airlines operating in India. And given the amount of incremental capacity being added in the country by the other airlines, We expect only a marginal impact on our business of Goel's bankruptcy. Speaker 200:14:22While we remain optimistic that Goel will commence operations in the near term, We have, as a matter of prudence, created a one time provision of INR 39,000,000 against the full amount that was due to us from GoAir at the time of this filing. Finally, I would like to express my deepest appreciation to our dedicated employees And shareholders for their unwavering support. With that, let me hand it over to Rohan to walk you through the details of the financial performance. Hello, Speaker 300:14:53thank you, Ruth. I will now review our quarter flow numbers with the grants of March 2023, followed by full year FY 'twenty three results. For the March quarter, our adjusted revenue increased by 93.3% On a year on year basis to INR 1,900,000,000, the strong growth was driven by a rebound In the air passenger traffic by about 53%, further supported by an increase in the needs, Resulting in an overall 119% increase in air ticketing adjusted revenue to INR 1,500,000,000. Adjusted revenue for Hotels and Packages was up 49% to INR268 1,000,000 On the back of a 34% growth in booked room nights. As the macro travel trends continue to witness strong tailwinds, We were able to grow our gross bookings to INR17.8 billion in quarter 4, Registering our YOY growth of 56%. Speaker 300:16:03It's important to note here that hotel and packages gross bookings doubled on a year on year basis, reflecting strength in corporate uptake of hotels. Turning to expenses. Quarter 4 marketing and sales promotion expenses, Including a netback for consumer promotions and loyalty program costs increased by 144% to INR1.05 billion. This enabled us to gain market share and unlock higher threshold of income from DBS and Airline Supplies. Our personnel expenses increased by 10% on a year on year basis to INR 279 1,000,000 during quarter 4. Speaker 300:16:48The increase from the prior year was primarily due to the impact of Reven statement of salary to pre pandemic levels, annual salary appraisals and marginal increase in headcount keeping in line with the overall business growth. The moderate increase relative to the 93% jump in adjusted revenue for the same period reinforces the operating leverage That is based on the back of automation of back end processes as well as the adoption of self booking tools in our corporate business. Other operating expenses in quarter 4 increased by 48.5 percent Y01 to INR407 1,000,000. This was driven by an increase in commission, legal and professional charges, payment gateway charges and provision for doubtful receivables. The net impact of all these factors led to a 3.5x Year on year jump in adjusted EBITDA from CAD53 1,000,000 in quarter 4 FY 2022 to CAD185.6 million in quarter 4 FY 2023. Speaker 300:17:55On the back of a robust growth in our staffing account, we were able to achieve higher thresholds of incentives with our GDS and Airline Supplies. These incremental incentives net of provisions made them prudently account For the ongoing go first insolvency led to a net positive impact to the tune of approximately INR 80,000,000 And our adjusted EBITDA for quarter 4. Now coming to the full year FY 'twenty three numbers, we have recorded an adjusted revenue of INR6 €200,000,000 reflecting an 86% growth year on year over FY 2022. This is registered primarily on the back of A 96% year on year growth in adjusted revenue from air and a 78% growth in adjusted revenue from hotels and packages. At the quantitative level, air passengers booked saw a 56% year on year growth in FY 'twenty three versus FY 'twenty two, while room nights booked increased by 72% during the same period. Speaker 300:19:02Due to all these factors, we were able to register an adjusted EBITDA Profit of INR433 million in FY2023 versus an adjusted EBITDA loss of INR 159 1,000,000 in FY 2022. Lastly, as of March 31, 2023, The balance of cash, cash equivalents and term deposits was INR1.09 billion. This was marginally higher than the December quarter balance of 1,080,000,000. With this, We conclude our prepared remarks and handing back to the moderator for the Q and A. Thank you. Operator00:19:52Thank you. Our first question comes from Scott Buck from H. C. Wainwright. Your line is now open. Speaker 400:20:36Hi, good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking my questions. First one for me, Dhruv, it looks like if I look at year over year adjusted revenue growth, Hotels and packages seems to be lagging air ticketing by quite a bit. I'm just curious if you could talk a little bit about the dynamics there and whether there's An opportunity for that to accelerate here in coming quarters? Speaker 200:21:02Sure. So firstly, good morning, Scott. In terms of hotels and packages, if you look at the numbers from an adjusted revenue standpoint, hotels and packages grew 49% year over year in the quarter, right? So it's not by any means slow growth. It's just Speaker 400:21:22relative to where, Speaker 200:21:23which grew at about 120%, right? So 49.3% looks relatively low, But still pretty impressive growth. On the hotel side, we do expect to see continued growth happening. The implementation cycle typically on hotels or corporate customers tends to be a bit longer than air. Hotels is more of a curated product, right? Speaker 200:21:48As you can imagine, different corporates will have different requirements of hotels. The geographic areas will Very the kind of hotels that they want their employees to stay at will vary. So it's a very curated list that gets created For corporate customers and hence there is a slightly longer growth path or implementation cycle for that. But we expect to see strong growth continuing to happen out there as we go forward as well. So it's not a case of it lagging. Speaker 200:22:17I mean, yes, In relative terms, it's lagging air growth, but it's not that it's not growing by itself. It will continue to grow In strong ranges going forward as well. I appreciate that. But actually, Speaker 100:22:33if you look at But if you look at gross bookings, our hotel and packages gross bookings actually grew at about 100% Year over year. So bear to bear dickening. Speaker 400:22:46Yes. No, I see that. Thanks. I appreciate that, Manish. Second one, Dhruv, historically, what has international been as a percentage of revenue, if you go back pre COVID, I guess? Speaker 200:22:58So historically, international has been close to it's been hovering between 25% to 30% in revenue terms pre COVID. Speaker 400:23:08Okay. And what is it today? Speaker 200:23:12So today, it's still less than 20%. Speaker 400:23:16Yes. Speaker 200:23:17It's recovering quickly, but what's also played out very strongly is that we've seen Traffic on the domestic side will really be on a pair. Travel in India is becoming much more deep seated And expanding into Tier 2, Tier 3 markets and the strength of our brand continues to resonate in these markets. And as we are seeing more and more traffic pickup, right, we are seeing stronger growth happening on the B2C domestic AI. We do expect international to also continue to grow strongly. But at this point, domestic air is growing really strongly on the B2C side. Speaker 200:23:57On the corporate front, it's more or less a case of all boats driving, right? We are seeing strong growth happening on both domestic And international on the corporate front year over year. Speaker 400:24:10Yes. That makes a lot of sense. And then last one for me. You guys have done a really nice job with the OpEx controls and kind of maintaining Lower rate of growth there versus what you're seeing in the top line. I'm curious, how confident are you that, that Can continue into 2024? Speaker 400:24:29It sounds like from the guidance that you feel pretty comfortable that you can kind of keep costs under control here. Speaker 200:24:37Right. So on the work of the automation efforts that we've undertaken for the last Now coming on to 3 plus years, Scott. We are fairly confident that we'll be able to keep our costs broadly in check. There is a lot of time and effort that has gone into making the back end fairly automated and scalable. In addition to that, the change in consumer behavior that we are seeing on the corporate side with more and more employees self booking is also looking like an A reversible one. Speaker 200:25:09It's unlikely that having now spent the last 6, 8 months doing pretty much everything on their own, Employees will go back into an offline mode and go back into reverting to calls and emails. So I think these trends are fairly permanent in nature And I would expect to see this leverage continue into the coming years as well. Speaker 400:25:32Great. That's helpful. Congrats on the quarter guys. Thank you very much. Speaker 200:25:37Thank you, Scott. Operator00:25:43Our next question comes from Anja Sodersholm from Sidoti. Please go ahead. Speaker 500:25:50Hi. Thank you for taking my question and congratulations for the good quarter. So I'm just curious about What is the margin difference between the business and the leisure revenue streams? And What are the main drivers for the margin and profit improvement going forward? Speaker 200:26:13So the margin in terms of operating margin, the corporate business would be high teens to getting into 20% kind of range. And this is once we get back to the full pre COVID scale, which is where we are now pretty close to. And on the B2C side of things, it would be in the high single digits In terms of operating margin, the main growth drivers and profitability drivers on the corporate side, We've got strong operating leverage coming in on account of employees adopting technology. So it's reducing the amount of manpower that we need to support The same amount of business, right? So that's giving us strong leverage and it also provides a much more scalable model That your employee cost does not go up linearly, but instead ends up growing in only a step function. Speaker 200:27:04So we are seeing strong leverage on that. On the B2C side, while there is leverage and all other costs, the overall profitability of the B2C business is driven to a certain By the competitive intensity and the competitive landscape, at this point, the competitive landscape has been fairly stable And that's allowing us to both gain market share because we've got a very strong brand in the market. So the minute the competitive landscape is more neutral, It leads to organic traffic growth for us and improved conversions for us, and we are seeing the effect of that play through. And that's what we are counting on going forward as well. We don't see the environment changing quite drastically. Speaker 200:27:46So to that extent at this It seems like all boats are rising, all guns are firing, right, and business is growing very strongly. Speaker 500:27:56Okay. Thank you. And in terms of the IPO timing, is there anything additional you can tell us there? Is there any sort of deadline you have for that, that It has to be done by or? Speaker 200:28:09The outside limit on that is 16th November. So it can be done and priced anytime before 16th November of 2023. We are Actually, as we put in our commentary as well, engaged in conversations with investors. We had to give it a break because we were in a quiet period, but now again, the process We'll start once the results are now that the results are out in public. Speaker 500:28:37Okay. Thank you. And given that we're 2 months into the Have you seen that acceleration in the packages growth continue Into the fiscal Q1 as well or what are you seeing in this quarter? Speaker 200:28:54Yes. So the momentum that we saw in Q4, We continue to see that carry forward into Q1 as well of the current fiscal year. Speaker 500:29:05Okay. Thank you. That was all for me. Speaker 200:29:09Sure. Thank Operator00:29:21Our next question comes from. So we currently have no further questions. Speaker 600:29:29So Karla, Speaker 100:29:34I have a couple of questions that have come over email. Speaker 400:29:37Karla, if I may. Speaker 600:29:38Okay. Yes, of course. Operator00:29:41Go ahead. Speaker 100:29:43Sure. Can you talk about the market share gains in Air that you've seen this quarter? What is causing that and how do you expect to see that trending in the near to medium term? Speaker 200:29:55Sure. The growth in market share on the air side is coming in on account of Us gaining share on the back of the strength of the brand and also opening up new online channels of distribution Where we are now gaining the market share. We expect the growth to continue to be steady and much faster than market, Right. Market itself is expected to grow in the early teens. We expect our growth to far outpace the growth in the market. Speaker 200:30:28So we expect our gains to be permanent in nature. We don't expect these to be short lived gains, so to speak. We've also seen given that travel is going deeper and deeper into Tier 2, Tier 3 markets and there's strong demand emerging from these sectors, The strength of our brand continues to resonate in these markets and that's also helping us gain more market share. And likewise, on the corporate side, we've got new customer signings. We've signed 97 new customers. Speaker 200:30:58That's the highest ever In terms of new customer signings that we've done and that also as these customers end up getting implemented, We'll continue to accelerate our market share gains. Speaker 100:31:13Thank you, Dhruv. I have one more. Can you add some color initiatives in the Middle East and African markets? And what kind of contribution can we expect from these initiatives? What other markets are you looking at going forward? Speaker 200:31:33Sure. So it's relatively early days, Manish, when it comes to opening up of newer markets. We have established a toehold In the Middle East and African markets, and we are exploring a couple of other markets in Southeast Asia as well. The software business and software as a service business and software The platform, the way we are trying to pitch is a very high EBITDA margin business. We do expect that this is a kind of business that can over the next 2 years, deliver a 50 plus percent kind of operating margin. Speaker 200:32:05But as of today, it's still relatively early days. And like a large SaaS platform sale, it will have a slightly long gestation period to sell, but once implemented, Should have a relatively high lifetime value. Speaker 100:32:24Thank you, Zug. That's all I have from the e mail questions. Speaker 700:32:27Sure. Speaker 100:32:28Carla, over to you. Back to the queue. Yes. Operator00:32:33So we do have a few more questions now. So if we go to Lisa Thompson from Zacks Investment Research. Speaker 600:32:44Good morning. Operator00:32:44The line is now open. Speaker 600:32:47Thank you. You cited that you had reached the highest payout slabs this quarter. Could you discuss how that works? And Do they reset? Is it a time thing? Speaker 600:33:02And now that you're up there, are they going to change the hurdle for you? Speaker 200:33:08Yes, it's a good question, Lisa. So typically what will happen is in most contracts, there will be a tiered structure which will be there, That based on the volume that you end up delivering, you end up getting incremental amounts as you keep going into the next higher slab. And typically, this payout will start from 0 and go to the threshold. So if you get, let's say, a slab moving from 2% to 2.5%, Then that 0.5 percent extra that you get is on your total sale. So that's the way the slabs will typically work. Speaker 200:33:42These labs are set, these contracts are negotiated for one particular fiscal year and then they start again. Similarly, in the case of the GDS contract, there is a particular threshold that we need to meet. If you are below that threshold, then there is A lower payout which ends up happening. And if you achieve that threshold, then there is a higher payout that ends up happening. Speaker 600:34:08Okay. So do they change it this year now that your year is over to higher numbers or To make it harder to reach? Speaker 200:34:17In a few cases they will. But typically the growth which is there in the slabs Is in line or the target is in line with market growth and capacity growth. So let's say if an airline is adding 6%, 7% incremental capacity, then the growth will be more or less linked into that plus a couple of percentage points. So we don't think that these slabs will in any way be reset to an extent that will make it Unachievable for us in the coming years. Speaker 600:34:52Okay. And is this why you beat your guidance? Is this why you beat the guidance? Speaker 200:34:58That's why we beat our guidance. Yes, because we were able to achieve the higher thresholds And that higher threshold brought out an incremental payout for the full year. Speaker 600:35:10Okay, excellent. Just curious, Do you think that you're going to be staying profitable? Or is there seasonality involved in that? Speaker 200:35:20No. We expect to remain profitable. So despite the lower seasons, which will come in especially in the July, August, September period, we do expect business to continue to be profitable quarter on quarter. Speaker 600:35:36Fantastic. So my last question is, do you have some sort of idea of What percent of revenues come from corporate versus consumer? Speaker 200:35:47So peak COVID, we were getting about half and half of our revenue coming from corporate and consumer. I mean, we are now getting to a stage where we are getting closer and closer to about a sixty-forty kind of split Between corporate and consumer, that would be for the full year. Speaker 600:36:09Thank you so much. Looking forward to Operator00:36:20Thank you, Lisa. Our next question comes from Cobb Sadler from Catamount. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:36:35Hey, guys. Congrats on the numbers and the outlook. It looks like the corporate investments you've been making are Starting to pay dividends and inflect. I had a question from the press release. I think you mentioned that the local listing Would help you or enable you to maybe strike some partnerships or maybe did you say strategic investment Or joint venture, could you tell us to the extent that you can, what you have in mind there? Speaker 700:37:05Thanks a lot. Speaker 200:37:09Sure, Gautam. So there isn't really anything specific on that talk that I can point you towards, But that's more in terms of a general description of the kind of opportunities which exist. There are Indian corporates which are reluctant Because of, let's say, RBI Reserve Bank of India, which is the Central Bank of India, Central Bank restrictions on overseas investments and all of it reluctant To look at overseas markets and hence it will provide them an alternative to look at partnerships, Strategic investments and those kinds of opportunities with the Aptra in India. But there isn't really anything specific that we are pointing towards As this statement alludes to, it's not that we are pointing to anything specific to the statement. It's more of a generic statement of the kind of potential opportunities that would exist. Speaker 700:38:02Got it. And is that so I'm assuming it's not aspirational. I'm assuming historically you probably had some sort of interest In doing things like this and you want to be able to kind of move on them, is that the idea? Or is it just Once you get the local currency, the local listing that you will be able to pursue things like that or is it both? Thanks. Speaker 700:38:25And I have one follow-up. Speaker 200:38:29Rob, it would not be possible for me to comment on that, especially Speaker 400:38:34in Speaker 200:38:34terms of any historical thing, which has May or may not have transpired. Speaker 700:38:39I understand that. Okay. And then on I believe Manish said that the IPO talks Or investor meetings or marketing would resume. Did I have that right after Now that you put your numbers out, is that do you have a plan for that as the bankers kind of in I guess you're probably limited to what you can say on this, but To what extent, I guess, like what yes, you can't ask you when you expect the IPO to happen, but I guess, at minimum, talks are going to resume. Is that right? Speaker 700:39:13Can you add any other color? Speaker 200:39:16Yes. I think, now that we've got the results out there, this Something that we would be updating investors with. And as you can see, there is strong momentum in the results and there is strong tailwind behind the business. So this is something that we would be updating investors with. Speaker 700:39:34Okay. All right. Well, that sounds good. Congrats on the numbers. Excellent numbers. Speaker 200:39:40Thank you so much, Bob. Operator00:39:44We currently have no further questions. So I'll hand back The management team for any final remarks. Speaker 100:39:54Thank you. Thank you everyone for joining the call today. And as always, we are available by e mail or over the phone. Dhruv, any final remarks? Speaker 200:40:05Now just would like to thank again everyone for their continued support. As you would have seen in this quarter's numbers, we are seeing strong traction Behind the business and we expect the business to continue to perform well over the quarters to come. So thank you once again for your continued support.Read moreRemove AdsPowered by