Main Street Capital Q1 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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May 5, 2023

There are 11 speakers on the call.

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Main Street Capital Corporation First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Zach Vaughn with Dennard Lascar, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for Main Street in the call are recorded. Joining me today with prepared comments are Duane Hijak, Chief Executive Officer are in the line with our speakers. David Magdol, President and Chief Investment Officer and Jesse Morris, Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer. Also participating for the Q and A portion of the call is Nick Meserve, are Managing Director and Head of Main Street's Private Credit Investment Group.

Speaker 1

Main Street issued a press release yesterday afternoon that details the company's Q1 financial and operating results. This document is available on the Investor Relations section of the company's website at mainstcapital.com. A replay of today's call will be available beginning an hour after the completion of the call and will remain available until May 12. Information on how to access this replay was included in yesterday's release. We also advise you that this conference call is being broadcast live through the Internet and can be accessed on the company's homepage.

Speaker 1

Please note that information reported on this call speaks only as of today, May 5, 2023, and therefore, you are advised that time sensitive information may no longer be accurate at the time of any replay listening or transcript reading. Today's call will contain forward looking statements. Many of these forward looking statements can be identified by the use of words such as anticipates, believes, expects, intends, These statements are based on management's estimates, assumptions and projections as of the date of this call and there are no guarantees of future performance. Actual results may differ materially from the results expressed or implied in these statements as a result of risks, will be subject to uncertainties and other factors, including, but not limited to, the factors set forth in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which can be found on the company's website During today's call, management will discuss non GAAP financial measures, including distributable net investment income or DNII. DNII is net investment income or NII as determined in accordance with U.

Speaker 1

S. Generally accepted accounting principles are in the range of $1,000,000 or GAAP, excluding the impact of non cash compensation expenses. Management believes that presenting DNII and the related per share amount are useful and appropriate supplemental disclosures for analyzing Main Street's financial performance since non cash compensation expenses Two additional key performance indicators that management will be discussing on this call are net asset value or NAV and return on equity or ROE. NAV is defined as total assets minus total liabilities and is also reported on a per share basis. Main Street defines ROE as the net increase in net assets resulting from operations divided by the average quarterly total net assets.

Speaker 1

Please note that certain information discussed on this call, including information related to portfolio companies, was derived from third party sources and has not been independently verified. And now I'll turn the call over to Main Street's CEO, Duane

Speaker 2

Kijak. Thanks, Zach. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. We appreciate your participation on this morning's call and we hope that everyone is doing well. On today's call, I will provide my usual updates regarding our performance in the quarter, will also provide updates on our asset management activities, our recent dividend declarations, our expectations for dividends going forward, our current investment pipeline And several other noteworthy updates.

Speaker 2

Following my comments, David and Jesse will provide additional comments regarding our investment strategy, investment portfolio, Financial results, capital structure and leverage and our expectations for the Q2, after which we'll be happy to take your questions. We're very pleased with our performance for the Q1, which was highlighted by a return on equity of 14.9% And includes new quarterly records for net investment income or NII per share and distributable net investment income or DNII per share are in the range of $1,000,000 in net asset value or NAV per share for the 3rd consecutive quarter. Our strong performance included continued positive results from our lower middle market and private loan investment and significant contributions from our Asset Management business. These results demonstrate the continued and sustainable strength of our overall platform, The benefits of our differentiated and diversified investment strategies, the unique contributions of our asset management business and the underlying quality of our portfolio companies. We are also pleased that we've seen our pipeline of investment opportunities in both our lower middle market in Private Loan Investment Strategies continued to grow over the last few months, returning to levels more consistent with our expected base investment activity levels.

Speaker 2

Are in the range of $1,000,000 Our attractive investment pipeline together with our conservative liquidity position and capital structure provides us a continued favorable outlook for the 2nd quarter. Our DNII in the Q1 exceeded the monthly dividends paid to our shareholders by 59% and the total dividends paid to our shareholders by 26%. This strong performance allowed us to deliver significant value to our shareholders, while still conservatively retaining a meaningful portion of our income in growing our NAV per share. These positive results and the favorable outlook for the Q2 resulted in our recommendations to our Board of Directors for our most recent dividend announcements, which I'll discuss in more detail later. Our NAV per share increased in the quarter due to several factors, including our retention of the excess NII per share above our dividends paid in the quarter, the impact of the fair value increases in our lower middle market investment portfolio and our wholly owned asset manager and the accretive impact of our equity issuances in the quarter.

Speaker 2

Our lower middle market portfolio companies continued their overall favorable performance, which resulted in another quarter of net fair value appreciation in the equity investments in this portfolio. As we look forward to the next few quarters, we remain excited about the benefits we expect Certain of our lower middle market portfolio companies to realize from the acquisitions they have completed over the last 12 to 18 months, are largely funded by follow on debt investments we made in those portfolio companies, and we expect to see continued fair value appreciation in these portfolio companies in the future. While our investment activity in the Q1 was a little slower than our normal quarterly activity, we were still pleased that we executed lower middle market investments of $59,000,000 These investments resulted in a net increase in our lower middle market investments are in the process of $8,000,000 Our private loan investment activities in the quarter included new investments of $44,000,000 which after aggregate repayments resulted in a net increase in our private loan investments of $24,000,000 Given our conservative capital structure and strong liquidity position, we remain very well positioned to continue the growth of our investment portfolio over the next few quarters.

Speaker 2

Have also continued to produce attractive results in our asset management business. The funds we advised through our external investment manager continue to experience favorable performance in the Q1. This positive performance resulted in a significant amount of incentive fee income for Asset Management Business for the 2nd consecutive quarter. And as a result, we received a significantly higher contribution to our net investment income from our Asset Management business. We remain excited about our plans for these external funds that we manage as we execute our investment strategies and other strategic initiatives, and we are optimistic about the future performance of the funds And the attractive returns we are providing to the investors of each fund.

Speaker 2

We also remain optimistic about our strategy for growing our asset management business within our internally managed are in the range of $1,000,000,000 and increase in the contributions from this unique benefit to our Main Street stakeholders. As part of this growth strategy, We're happy to announce that we have formally launched our next private loan fund as a successor fund to our existing private loan investment fund, and we hope to have our first closing for the fund before the end of the Q2. We look forward to sharing additional details and updates on the new fund on our next conference call. Based upon our results for the Q1, combined with our favorable outlook in each of our primary investment strategies and for our asset management business And the benefits of our efficient operating structure, earlier this week, our Board declared a supplemental dividend of $0.225 per share payable in June, representing our largest and 7th consecutive quarterly supplemental dividend. Our Board also declared an increase to our regular monthly dividends for the Q3 of 2023 to $0.23 per share, payable in each of July, August September, Representing a 7% increase from the Q3 of 2022.

Speaker 2

The increased supplemental dividend for June is a result of our strong performance in the Q1, which resulted in DNII per share that was $0.395 are 59% greater than our regular monthly dividends paid during the quarter. The June 2023 supplemental dividend will result in total supplemental dividends paid during the trailing 12 month period of $0.60 per share, representing an additional 23% paid to our shareholders in excess of our regular monthly dividends and significantly increasing the current yield we are providing to our shareholders, Including our supplemental dividends, our DNII per share for the Q1 exceeded our total dividends paid by $0.22 per share are 26%. We are pleased to be able to deliver this significant additional value to our shareholders, while also maintaining a significant portion of our excess earnings to support our capital structure and investment portfolio against risks from the current economic uncertainties that may be realized in the future and to further enhance the growth of our NAV per share. We currently expect to recommend that our Board continue to declare future supplemental dividends to the extent DNII significantly exceed regular monthly dividends paid in future quarters, And we maintain a stable to positive NAV.

Speaker 2

Based upon our expectations for the continued favorable performance in the second quarter, We currently anticipate proposing an additional supplemental dividend payable in the Q3 of 2023. Now turning to our current investment pipeline. As of today, I would characterize our lower middle market investment pipeline as average. Despite the current broad economic uncertainty, we expect to continue to be active in our lower middle market strategy. Are consistent with our experience in prior periods of broad economic uncertainty, we believe that the unique and flexible financing solutions we can provide to lower middle market companies and their owners and management teams should be an even more attractive solution today and should result in very attractive investment opportunities for us.

Speaker 2

We are excited about these new investment opportunities and we expect our current pipeline will be helpful as we work to maintain our positive momentum from the last few quarters. Will be in the range of $1,000,000 We also continue to be very pleased with the performance of our private credit team and the significant growth they have provided for our private loan portfolio and our asset management business. And as of today, I would also characterize our private loan investment pipeline as average. With that, I will turn the call over to David.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Duane, and good morning, everyone. As Duane highlighted in his remarks, we believe our strong Q1 financial results continue to demonstrate the strength of Main Street's platform, differentiated investment approach and our unique operating model. We're pleased to report that the overall operating performance for most of our portfolio companies continued to be positive, which contributed to our attractive first quarter financial results. The continued favorable operating performance for the majority of our portfolio companies resulted in a net increase to the fair value of our lower middle market investments during the quarter have provided increased dividend income contributions to Main Street. Both our NAV appreciation and dividend income are a direct benefit of our long term strategy of maintaining a mature investment portfolio that is well diversified by end market, industry, vintage and security type.

Speaker 3

Maintaining a mature and diverse portfolio has been the cornerstone of our philosophy over our 20 plus years of investment history will continue to be a key to our investment strategy in the future. Each quarter, we try to highlight key aspects of our differentiated investment strategy. This quarter, we'd like to revisit several reasons why we believe that our structure as a publicly traded investment company with the significant benefits of permanent capital structure can provide additional value during times of increased economic uncertainty and depressed debt and equity capital investment activity are similar to the economy's current situation. 1st, on the new lower middle market origination side, we believe that our permanent Capital structure allows us to be an ideal long term to permanent partner for the owners, management teams and employees of privately held businesses. Are in the range of $1,000,000,000 of a typical term specific private equity fund is that they are generally required to underwrite to a relatively short term holding period And generally cannot represent a longer term or permanent partnership solution for a business owner or their management teams.

Speaker 3

Ultimately, we believe our flexibility generates a highly attractive investment structures that more traditional private equity funds cannot provide. In addition, our ability to be a long term to permanent partner to the companies we invest in allows the owners of these businesses and their management teams the ability to maintain The identity and independence of their companies, while also achieving the best outcomes for their company stakeholders. 2nd, our long term holding periods generate a diversified portfolio of seasoned lower middle market portfolio companies. Out of our 79 lower middle market portfolio companies, over half have been in our portfolio for greater than 5 years and a quarter have been in our portfolio for greater than a decade. These seasoned investments typically have lower relative leverage profile since they have generally used free cash flow from operations to deleverage over time.

Speaker 3

This tends to create 3 attractive opportunities for our high performing lower middle market portfolio companies. The opportunity for long term equity appreciation, The opportunity to pay dividends and the opportunity to efficiently take advantage of internal and external growth initiatives as they arise. Are in line with our portfolio company owners and management teams to help them evaluate and pursue the best alternatives to create shareholder value. Alternatively, should the portfolio company face difficult industry or economic headwinds, given their lower relative leverage profiles, They tend to be well positioned to work through negative cycles when they arise. Because of Main Street's strong capital availability and are ability to provide both debt and equity capital solutions to our portfolio companies.

Speaker 3

We are ideally situated to move quickly to support our portfolio companies with add on acquisitions Today, the environment for add on acquisitions by our portfolio companies remains strong. We welcome the opportunity to make incremental investments in our lower middle market portfolio companies as we strive to create long term value for Main Street shareholders are in line with our partners at the portfolio company level. Now turning to the overall composition and results from our investment portfolio as of March 31, we continue to maintain a highly diversified portfolio with investments in 195 companies are spanning across more than 50 different industries among our lower middle market, private loan and middle market portfolios. Our largest portfolio company represented 3.1 percent of our total investment portfolio fair value and 3.7% of our total investment income for the last 12 months. Majority of our portfolio investments represented less than 1% of our income and our assets.

Speaker 3

Our investment activity in the last quarter included total investments in our lower middle market portfolio of approximately $59,000,000 which after aggregate repayments on debt investments and return of invested equity capital resulted in net increase in our lower middle market portfolio of $8,000,000 Driven by the capabilities and relationships of our private credit team, we also completed $44,000,000 in total private loan investments, Which after aggregate repayments of debt investments and return of invested equity capital resulted in net increase in our private loan portfolio of $24,000,000 Finally, during the quarter, we had a net decrease in our middle market portfolio of $12,000,000 as we continued to strategically deemphasize this strategy. At the end of the Q1, our lower middle market portfolio included investments in 79 companies, representing over $2,100,000,000 of fair value, Which is over 20% above our cost basis. We also had investments in 86 companies in our private loan portfolio, representing $1,500,000,000 of fair value and our middle market portfolio had investments in 30 companies representing $306,000,000 of fair value. The total investment portfolio at fair value at quarter end was 110% of the related cost basis. In the quarter.

Speaker 3

In summary, Main Street's investment portfolio continues to perform at a high level and deliver on our long term goals. Additional details on our investment portfolio at quarter end are are included in the press release that we issued yesterday. With that, I'll turn the call over to Jesse to cover our financial results, capital structure and liquidity position.

Speaker 4

Thank you, David. As Duane and David mentioned, we are very pleased with our operating results for the Q1, which include a number of quarterly records, including those for total investment income and for NII per share, DNI per share and NAV per share. Our total investment income in the Q1 increased by $40,900,000 or 51 were over the same period in 2022 $6,400,000 or 5.6 percent over the Q4 2022 For a total of $120,300,000 Interest income increased by $34,000,000 from a year ago And $7,100,000 over the 4th quarter. We estimate that the continued benefit from increases in benchmark index rates drove just over half of the increases for both periods with the remainder driven primarily by the continued growth in our debt investments. Dividend income increased by $7,600,000 over a year ago and by $1,800,000 over the 4th quarter.

Speaker 4

The increase over prior year was driven primarily by increases in dividends received from our lower middle market portfolio companies and from the external investment manager, while the increase over the 4th quarter was driven by an increase in dividends received from our lower middle market portfolio companies. The Q1 investment income included elevated dividends and accelerated prepayments and other activity that are considered less consistent. In the aggregate, these were approximately $7,100,000 or $0.06 per share above the average of the prior 4 quarters. Interest expense increased by $8,300,000 over the prior year, driven primarily by an increase in the interest rate on our debt obligations, resulting from the addition of certain debt at higher interest rates and increases in benchmark index rates, combined with an increase And average outstanding borrowings to fund our investment activity and support the growth of our investment portfolio. Are in the range of $1,000,000 driven primarily by increases in incentive compensation accruals as a result of our favorable operating performance and higher levels of headcount to support increased investment activity sits under management.

Speaker 4

Non cash compensation expenses increased by $2,000,000 including increases in share based compensation As a reminder, deferred compensation expenses will fluctuate based on the change in the fair value of the underlying plant assets. The ratio of our total operating expenses excluding interest expense As a percentage of our average total assets was 1.3% for the quarter and 1.4% for the trailing 12 month period It continues to be amongst the lowest in our industry. Our external investment manager contributed $8,100,000 to our net investment income during the quarter, an increase of $3,000,000 when compared to the same period of the prior year and $1,100,000 when compared to the 4th quarter. The manager earned $3,300,000 incentive fees during the quarter, an increase of $3,200,000 over a year ago $800,000 over the 4th quarter as a result of the improved performance of the assets under management and ended the quarter with total assets under management of $1,400,000,000 During the quarter, we recorded net fair value appreciation, including net realized losses and net unrealized appreciation on the investment portfolio of $6,700,000 recorded a net fair value appreciation of $11,000,000 in our lower middle market portfolio, driven by the continued performance of our portfolio companies.

Speaker 4

In the quarter, we resolved a long standing non accrual lower middle market investment that had been carried at $0 on a fair value basis for multiple years, resulting in a realized loss recognized during the quarter, but no negative impact to net fair value. We also recognized $9,700,000 of appreciation in the fair value of our external investment manager, Driven by increases in peer trading multiples and increased revenues and a net fair value depreciation of $8,900,000 in our middle market portfolio and $6,700,000 in our private loan portfolio, Driven by a combination of quoted market prices, changes in market spreads and the underperformance of specific portfolio companies. NAV per share increased by $0.37 or 1.4 percent over the end of the 4th quarter And by $1.34 or 5.2 percent when compared to a year ago to $27.23 at March 31, in 2023. We ended the Q1 with 13 investments on non accrual status, comprising approximately 0.6% of the total Investment portfolio fair value and approximately 3.2% at cost. As I mentioned earlier, we had 1 lower middle market investment previously on non accrual fully realized and added 2 middle market investments to non accrual during the quarter.

Speaker 4

We continue to believe that our conservative leverage, strong liquidity and continued access to capital are significant strengths that have us well positioned for the future. Our regulatory debt to equity leverage calculated as total debt excluding our SBIC debentures Divided by net asset value was 0.77 and our regulatory asset coverage ratio was 2.3 times at quarter end are intentionally slightly more conservative than our target ranges of 0.8 to 0.9 times and 2.1 times to 2.25 times respectively. In the quarter, we were active on the capital front, including the additional 1 new lender in our corporate revolving credit facility, Increasing the total commitments by $60,000,000 to $980,000,000 the execution of an additional $50,000,000 in unsecured private placement notes in the issuance of equity under our ATM program, raising a net $41,000,000 We ended the quarter with Strong liquidity, including cash and availability under our credit facilities of $711,000,000 We believe this provides us with ample liquidity, continuing to be are opportunistic and pursue attractive investment opportunities throughout 2023, while continuing to maintain a conservative leverage profile. Moving back to our operating results. Return on equity for the Q1 was 14.9% on an annualized basis and 12.8 percent for the trailing 12 month period, both representing strong results compared to the industry.

Speaker 4

DNII per share for the quarter was $1.07 per share, an increase of $0.04 or 3.9 percent over the 4th quarter And $0.31 or 41 percent over the same period a year ago. The combined impact of certain investment income and deferred compensation expense considered less consistent or non recurring nature was $0.07 per share above the average of the last 4 quarters and $0.09 per share above the same quarter a year ago. As Duane mentioned, given the strength of our offering results and the outlook for 2023, our Board approved an increase to our monthly dividends are subject to $0.23 per share for the Q3 of 2023 and a supplemental dividend of $0.225 per share payable in June 2023. Total dividends declared for the Q2 of 2023 were $0.90 per share, representing a 5.9% increase over the total monthly and supplemental dividends paid in the Q1 of 2023 and a 25% increase over the total dividends paid in the Q2 2022. Looking forward, given the strength of our underlying portfolio, we expect another strong quarter in the Q2 of 2023 with expected DNII per share of at least $0.95 per share and with the opportunity to exceed this level, are driven by the level of dividend income and portfolio investment activities during the quarter.

Speaker 4

With that, I will now turn the call back over to the operator, so

Operator

First question comes from Robert Dodd with Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Speaker 5

Hi, guys, and congratulations on the quarter. Obviously, a couple of questions on portfolio in Lower middle market portfolio company dividends and then the asset management. So on that the portfolio companies, I mean, you highlighted there was some Not unusually high income, but I mean looking at it looks about somewhere between $20,000,000 and $21,000,000 from portfolio companies in dividend income, take out the asset management, take out 45. I mean, that's the 2nd highest dividend quarter ever from those portfolio companies and the highest Q1 by a considerable margin. Can you give us any kind of how much of that, if any, was kind of non recurring?

Speaker 5

It is obviously quite unusual to see such a strong Q1. Or is it just The economy is sending a lot of mixed messages, right? So maybe those businesses are just doing better, or is there some unusual lumpiness To that particular dividend income component this quarter.

Speaker 2

Sure. Thanks, Robert. What I would say is that Just like last quarter, we have a certain number of our lower middle market companies that despite what you hear about the overall economy and the headwinds and concerns, they're continuing to do really well. Jesse highlighted in his comments that we did have some elevated or unusual activity there. There was 1 lower middle market company that had a large dividend that represented A good chunk, probably 80%, 75%, 80% of the non recurring portion of those dividends.

Speaker 2

So you do have that going through the Q1. But outside of that, we continue to have good production or contributions across the low middle market portfolio from a number of different companies contributing to that dividend income for the Good quarter.

Speaker 5

Got it. Thank you. And then we looked at the asset manager, which is obviously doing well. It seems with the base management fees that it received this quarter at 5.5 This quarter, we haven't seen the MSC filings yet. Is that an indication of the growth in the obviously, you're now starting up Private loan fund as well.

Speaker 5

The AUM is 1.4 and I think MSC is 1.1. So is that growth there? How much of that is kind of due to the success beyond the MSC Advisory relationship and a ramp in your other asset management initiatives.

Speaker 2

Robert, what I would say is that we're seeing good performance across the entire platform. You see it at Main Street in our numbers, Given the overlap of assets between Main Street, MSC Income Fund as well as our private loan fund, you're also seeing that good performance at The funds that we manage and that's driving contributions there through incentive fees. So I'd say that the base management fee did not increase significantly quarter over quarter, But you did see a significant benefit from an incentive fee just given the overall performance of the portfolio and the results that drives for each of those funds that we're managing.

Speaker 5

Okay. Thank you. That's it for me.

Speaker 2

You're welcome. Thank you.

Operator

Next question, Bryce Roe with B. Riley. Please go ahead.

Speaker 6

Thanks. Good morning. Maybe wanted to start with just kind of the pace or the state of the pipeline, so to speak. Like last quarter, you all talked about a below average to average pipeline and actually a little bit surprised that it picked up It seems to have picked up here at this point in the year. So Duane and David, maybe you guys could speak to Maybe what's driving the pickup in pipeline?

Speaker 6

Is it just moving from winter to spring? Or are you seeing kind of better opportunities given Maybe the tighter credit conditions we're seeing from other lenders.

Speaker 2

Sure, Bryce. Thanks for the question. I'll give a quick Response and I'll let David add on. What I would say is when we looked at the Q1 on our last call, we knew that there was a slowdown we were experiencing. The Deal flow really started to slow down in December and you saw the impact of that slowdown through the Q1.

Speaker 2

As we move forward over the last couple of months, I would say that the view we have is that the market as a whole, Private Equity investors as well as sellers have gotten comfortable with the new dynamics of the marketplace, which the biggest change as you know Would be the cost of capital on the debt capital side. So you've seen the market as a whole understand that that's a new reality. And if you're going to transact, Those parties have decided that they can transact. They may make other tweaks. There might be more equity less debt or there may be a difference on the purchase price from a valuation standpoint, but the market as a whole has concluded that there is A good opportunity to continue to make investments and they're transacting again.

Speaker 2

And I'd say that our improvement in our pipeline, both lower middle market and private loan is a result of The market as a whole just returning somewhat more to normal, still not normal where it would have been 6 or 9 months ago, but at least heading in that direction. David, I don't know if you want to add anything to that.

Speaker 3

Not much to add, but I think that the biggest catalyst for increased volume In fact, last year, there was so much nervousness like Duane referenced on the debt availability. The market's gotten more acclimated to the new normal as far as the current conditions. So What we're hearing from a lot of the intermediaries we deal with is that, they're more willing to come to market because they have better visibility of what it takes on the buyer side To get deals done in the current environment, which sometimes takes more equity contributions, but that the market is accepting of that and so they're opening up the deal flow.

Speaker 2

The one additional thing I would add, Bryce, and I think we've said this over the last couple of quarters, but one of the things that gives us comfort despite the fact that we're investing into an uncertain Environment from a debt capital standpoint and just from an overall economic standpoint is I would say that the quality of the deals that we're seeing that we're executing on, They're very good deals, good sponsors on the private loan side, private credit side and they're really good attractive lower middle market deals on the lower middle market side. So despite Everything you read about in the newspaper, there are companies that are doing well in the economy and we're seeing opportunities to invest with those teams and with those private equity sponsors in those opportunities.

Speaker 3

Just one last add on is that the one stop shop element of our financings has become more powerful in this market. The ability to do both the debt And the equity means that, if there are intermediaries that are concerned about the dynamics that might exist in the debt environment, If they're knowledgeable about us, they're coming to us more regularly in this kind of environment.

Speaker 6

Got it. Okay. Maybe switching gears a little bit from a to the capital structure, obviously active in a lot of different ways here in the past quarter, expanding the revolver, more private notes, continuing to be active on the ATM. Just Kind of want to get your thoughts around, there is a maturity in 'twenty four, some senior notes. Just curious how you're thinking about that at this point.

Speaker 6

Would you be comfortable maybe using a piece of the revolver or capacity on the revolver to redeem that? Are ready to redeem that. Just any thoughts around that would be great.

Speaker 2

Sure, Bryce. I'd say that we don't have a definitive answer for that. I think our goal is to always maintain a conservative capital structure, significant are in a position. So we've got flexibility and I think we've done a good job of putting ourselves in that position. We always have the opportunity Given how we've performed and how our stock price trades to utilize the ATM or other equity issuances as an option to support our capital structure and our liquidity position.

Speaker 2

But But I think as we sit here today, we're just going to continue to monitor things. If the market improves, you could expect to see us active on the investment grade or private placement side. If it doesn't, we have a number of other options, the ATM, our secured facilities or other options that we think give us the flexibility to deal That maturity in May of 2024. So I think we'll continue to be opportunistic And as it relates to what's available in the marketplace and deal with that maturity here over the next 12 months or so. Jesse, I don't know if you want to add anything to that.

Speaker 4

I think you covered it, Duane. I mean, I think the only thing to add is like over the last 3 to 6 months, I think what you've seen from Main Street in addition to what we did in the Q1, but Going back to the 4th quarter is continue to diversify our funding sources. As Duane mentioned on The ATM is something we've historically been active. We did at the SPV in the Q4 and then we did some unsecured private placement. So I think it's looking at a combination of different sources as we get closer and closer in May of 24.

Speaker 6

Got it. Okay. Last one for me. I think there was the press release made note of added headcount. Just kind of curious Are you staffing up or are you adding some folks to maybe tackle more elements of the lower middle market?

Speaker 2

Sure, Bryce. I think as you've heard us say in our comments and some of the Q and A here, we expect to be active. We have a large growing portfolio both on the lower middle market side in the private credit side. So to the extent we can add members to the team, we're doing that. So we've had some additions here.

Speaker 2

We expect to have more over the next quarters and that's the activity that Jesse was referencing in his comments.

Speaker 6

All right. Great quarter. Appreciate the

Speaker 2

time. Thanks, Bryce.

Operator

Next question, Kenneth Lee with RBC. Please go ahead.

Speaker 7

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Just one following up on the lower middle market pipeline there. Wonder if you could just share your thoughts on do you see any potential impact from an economic Slow down or broadly across the industry, seeing the slower M and A activity, wondering what sorts of impacts You can see down the line in terms of that pipeline there. Thanks.

Speaker 2

Sure, Ken. Thanks for the question. I'll give a quick answer and then I'll let David add on. Similar to what I said earlier, I'd say that the biggest impact we've seen both in the low middle market activity, but also in our private credit business has been the change in the cost of debt capital over the last 12 months or so. I think as I said earlier, I think that has been a change that the market has maybe not gotten comfortable with, but has accepted that that's a new reality.

Speaker 2

And as a result of that, I think that's the biggest driver that you're seeing in terms of an improvement or recovery at least in the pipeline and the activity that we're seeing on our side. I do think any investor, including Main Street, is more concerned in this environment when you look at the headwinds and the uncertainty in the overall economy. But we feel like our solution can be a really, really good financing solution for lower middle market companies in any environment. We think it can be particularly effective In this type of an environment where an owner operator, management team that owns a good low middle market company that wants liquidity, We'll acknowledge that they probably won't maximize value today, but our unique structure both as a minority investor or A majority equity investor, we can provide a significant amount of liquidity similar to what they would try and achieve out of a full change of control, but allow them To either retain control from an equity ownership standpoint or at least retain a material minority position that allows them to get some liquidity today, but also retain a significant enough of that equity significant portion of that equity to allow them to continue to benefit from that company in the future and hopefully sometime in the next couple of years, realize a higher valuation than they may realize in today's environment.

Speaker 3

I'll just add one or

Speaker 8

two quick points.

Speaker 3

When we look at our lower middle market pipeline, we do have add ons as a significant portion that's grown over the years. This is as we look at the overall portfolio for lower middle market as our company is deleveraged. As I said in my comments, they have more capacity to go and be opportunistic in a time of Market dislocation or concern overall in the economy. The second thing is in the lower middle market as opposed to larger transactions, the same types of transactions like succession planning, partner separations, estate planning take place year after year and people look to transact. And That market is one that certainly has ups and downs like every market, but we still see the same reasons to transact.

Speaker 3

So it should be a good environment for us.

Speaker 7

Got you. Very helpful there. One just one follow-up here. I think in the prepared remarks, you talked about the potential for fair value appreciation within the lower middle market portfolio. And it sounds like it's going to come from potentially follow ons or acquisitions or add ons, as you mentioned.

Speaker 7

Is the thinking there that With further investments, these companies could increase the enterprise values and therefore there could some equity appreciation over time or is there something else that we should be keeping in mind here? Thanks.

Speaker 2

Sure, Ken. Thanks for that question. What I would say is What we intended with that comment was to reference some of our portfolio companies that have already completed acquisitions. So we're not referencing future acquisitions, but we're referencing acquisitions that they've completed over the last 12 to 18 months. And as those acquisitions get integrated and they realize the synergies, we may be a little more conservative than others in recognizing those synergies upfront.

Speaker 2

We prefer to recognize them after they've been realized or they've have been executed on. So we're seeing some really good activity at several of our companies that have completed acquisitions and are now realizing those synergies. And as those synergies flow through their quarterly financial statements, we're seeing natural benefits on the fair value and we expect to see those same benefits Going forward. So that's what we were referencing on that comment.

Speaker 7

Got you. Very helpful there. Thanks again.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Speaker 5

Will be

Operator

in the next question, Mark Hughes with Truist Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker 8

Yes. Thank you very much. On the incentive fee income, were you doing well In the asset management, is that how much of that is driven by your outperformance versus Just some favorable market dynamics in the areas that you're in?

Speaker 2

Mark, I would say we don't have an exact Number of breakdown, I would say it's a combination of the 2. I think we feel like we're doing a really good job on the portfolio existing portfolio company side. So you're Same benefit there, you can see it in our dividend income that we referenced earlier. But clearly, as interest rates have risen on the floating rate side, Just like Main Street sees a benefit through our interest income, you see the same type of benefit across the platform, both at MSE Income Fund as well as our Private Loan Fund. You may even see more there because those funds are heavier weighted towards our private loan strategy, which is much more heavily weighted are going to be in a floating rate environment on the investment side as opposed to Main Street having a larger portion of its debt investments be fixed rate through our lower middle market strategy.

Speaker 2

Mark, did that answer your question?

Speaker 8

Yes, it sure did. I'm sorry.

Speaker 7

Yes.

Speaker 8

Good question. When you look at your kind of target lower and middle market companies, how much do they transact with Regional Bank, is that for the companies that you look to might perhaps establish a relationship with, If credit does tighten up, is that going to be a meaningful catalyst or are those regional banks maybe not even part of the echo Just sort of curious your perspective on that.

Speaker 2

Sure, Mark. I would say that our lower middle market companies probably do have A higher amount of activity with regional banks. These are smaller locally focused businesses in general. So as a result, they are probably more inclined to have a relationship With the regional bank than a national larger national based business would. So while they don't our portfolio companies wouldn't be impacted by Regional Banks from a source of financing because in our low middle market strategy, we're typically the only source of capital, both debt and equity.

Speaker 2

So we're providing All their capital needs both from an initial transaction standpoint, but also their future capital needs if they're growing organically, if they're seeking grow through acquisitions. So we don't see a negative impact in our current portfolio based upon a pullback in regional banks. But I do think our portfolio companies would have existing relationships with regional banks more broadly.

Speaker 8

Very good. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you.

Operator

Are Erik Zwick with Hovde Group. Please go ahead.

Speaker 9

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Most of the kind of the topics I wanted to hit on have been discussed already, but I guess the market has changed quite a bit over the past 12 months in a number of ways from interest rates, Regional Banks, kind of pulling back from some of the markets. Curious if you could just kind of maybe summarize or highlight how that has impacted the Kind of the characteristics of your originations, which have benefited the most in terms of either spreads or covenants, Ability to increase interest rate floors, what you would characterize as kind of being the most dramatic changes from a year ago and maybe kind of most are important going forward as well.

Speaker 2

Sure, Eric. Thanks for the question. I would say in our lower middle market strategy, we haven't really seen much of an impact At all, most regional banks at least from our experience, they're not going to be active players in financing M and A type transactions where leaving the business. That's why our solutions in the lower middle market strategy fit the lower middle market so well because there's not a lot of people that are actively providing debt will be available to that marketplace. So because of that, even though you see the regional banks having their headwinds and issues, we're not seeing a significant impact or really any impact From our perspective on our lower middle market strategy, in our private loan strategy, I would say that what you've seen and it's more From my perspective, it's less an impact of the regional banks and it's more just a broader economic impact and a broader overall capital markets impact is that you are seeing Less capital availability, people that are probably less inclined to invest.

Speaker 2

And as a result, we've seen the spreads that we're achieving in place and the perception that people have of the risk of investing in the current environment. So that's what I would say has been the impact on The private loan or private credit side of our business, but I'd say that's not directly attributable to the regional banks, it's just more Broadly attributable to the activities by the Fed, headwinds in the economy and concerns about inflation and other broader economic concerns. Nick, I don't know if you'd add anything on the private credit side. Yes.

Speaker 10

I would add also that spreads have widened out. We've also gotten better terms across the board. And so whether that's Slightly tighter covenants, less advance rates, lower LTV to start, lower leverage to start. Across the board, your documentation is better right now than it was 12 months ago. So across the board, the overall terms have drifted more towards the lender than the borrower.

Speaker 9

That's all very helpful. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Eric.

Operator

This concludes our question and answer segment. I would like to turn the floor over to management for closing remarks.

Speaker 5

Thank you

Speaker 2

again everyone for joining us this morning. We'll look forward to talking to everyone again in early August.

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