Occidental Petroleum Q1 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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May 4, 2023

There are 7 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, afternoon, evening. My name is Bavesh, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the NOW Incorporated First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session.

Operator

Followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. Thank you. Mr. Brad Weiss, Vice President of Digital Strategy and Investor Relations, you may begin your conference.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Bhavish, and good morning, and welcome to NOW Inc. Q1 2023 earnings conference call. We appreciate you joining us, and thank you for your interest in NOW Inc. With me today is David Cherichinski, President and Chief Executive Officer and Mark Johnson, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. We operate primarily under the DistributionNOW and DNOW brands, and And you'll hear us refer to DistributionNOW and DNOW, which is our New York Stock Exchange ticker symbol during our conversation this morning.

Speaker 1

Please note that some of the statements we make during the call, including responses to your questions, may contain forecasts, projections and estimates, including but not limited to comments during our outlook for the company's business. These are forward looking statements within the meaning of the U. S. Federal securities laws based on limited information as of May 4, 2023, which is subject to change. They are subject to risks and uncertainties, and actual results May differ materially.

Speaker 1

No one should assume these forward looking statements remain valid later in the quarter or later in the year. We do not undertake any obligation to publicly update or revise any forward looking statements for any reason. In addition, this conference call contains time sensitive information that reflects management's best judgment at the time of the live call. I refer you to our latest forms 10 ks and 10 Q that NOW Inc. Has on file with the U.

Speaker 1

S. Securities and Exchange Commission for a more detailed discussion of the major risk factors affecting our business. Further information as well as supplemental financial and operating information may be found within our earnings release on our website at ir.dnow.com or in our filings with the SEC. And effort to provide investors with additional information relative to our results as determined by U. S.

Speaker 1

GAAP. You will note that we also disclosed various non GAAP financial measures, including EBITDA, excluding other costs, sometimes referred to as EBITDA, excluding other costs. Each excludes the impact of certain other costs and therefore have not been calculated in accordance with GAAP. Please refer to a reconciliation of each of these non GAAP financial measures to its most comparable GAAP financial measure and the supplemental information available at the end of our earnings release. As of this morning, the Investor Relations section of our website contains a presentation covering our results and key takeaways for the Q1 of 2023.

Speaker 1

A replay of today's call will be available on the site for the next 30 days. We plan to file our 2023 Form 10 Q for the Q1 today and it will also be available on our website. Now, let me turn the call over to Dave.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Brad, and good morning, everyone. I'm proud to see the results of our talented team produced again this quarter, As we kick off the year, outperforming the sequential revenue guide provided on our last earnings call despite weather related activity declines, reduced U. S. Rig counts and completions and lower oil and gas prices. The discipline we've maintained as we execute our strategy continues to be constructive to earnings, most recently propelled by our international segment that delivered strong growth in the Q1 with its best quarterly revenue growth percentage sequentially and year over year in more than a decade.

Speaker 2

We had good growth across all three segments, marking the best first quarter EBITDA results since spinning off in May of 2014. Our achievements across the globe are a result of the smart planning, communication, focus and discipline by our employees. It's a testament to the hard work and dedication of our team, and I'm grateful for their efforts to deliver success. Regarding capital allocation, we continue to make strategic inorganic investments to fuel growth through acquisitions, while opportunistically repurchasing shares. By balancing these two approaches or even better pursuing both, We aim to drive sustainable long term value for our shareholders.

Speaker 2

In an effort to further boost bolster our U. S. Process Solutions business. Earlier this week, we acquired 2 U. S.

Speaker 2

Businesses for $33,000,000 which expand manufacturer territorial exclusivities for key products and provide enhanced revenue opportunities with our existing DNOW customers in those areas. These new territories are adjacent to DNOW's other existing agreements, widening our geographic reach and deepening our products and solution offerings into the downstream, refining and industrial markets. I'm excited to welcome the employees joining the DNOW family. Look forward to the growth we can cultivate together. We also continue to return value to shareholders through our $80,000,000 share repurchase program.

Speaker 2

During the quarter, we were active in the market as we purchased 3,300,000 shares amounting to $36,000,000 Through the end of the Q1, we have consumed 53% of the authorized $80,000,000 repurchase program. Now I'll hit some of the financial highlights. 1st quarter revenue was $584,000,000 sequentially higher by 7% on better than expected international growth of 28%, Canada was up 11% and the U. S. Grew 3%, primarily attributable to the December acquisitions.

Speaker 2

On a year over year basis, revenue is up $111,000,000 or 23%, outpacing the 15% year over year increase in global rig count. 1Q 'twenty three gross margins were 23.5%, lower sequentially as expected primarily due to dilutive project margins. For example, project margins in 4Q 2022 were better Then in 1Q 'twenty three, given the product mix and reduced vendor consideration was lower in the Q1 following a strong 4Q 'twenty two close. For the Q1, EBITDA was $47,000,000 or 8% of revenue, solid performance yielding excellent results. On a year over year basis, EBITDA is up $19,000,000 or 68 percent, resulting from a robust 17% year over year EBITDA to revenue flow throughs.

Speaker 2

Free cash flow consumption was $11,000,000 in the Q1 as we invested in working capital to support growth and deployed $5,000,000 in capital investments to round out infrastructure and rental asset enhancements. That said, we expect to produce positive free cash flow in 2023. Now some regional comments. In the U. S, revenue was $427,000,000 an increase of $13,000,000 or 3% sequentially, driven by growth from newly acquired businesses and demand for our U.

Speaker 2

S. Process solutions offerings for process, production and pump packaged equipment. U. S. Energy revenues were relatively flat sequentially as U.

Speaker 2

S. Rig count softened by 2% and was negatively impacted by poor weather in the Northwest. Many job sites were inaccessible due to record snowfalls in the winter. Rig counts in dry gas areas receded in the Q1 As operators sought to balance supply with demand for natural gas as Henry Hub spot gas prices hovered around $2.65 per 1,000,000 BTUs. Across the oily basins, drilling and completion activity drove demand for our seamless and ERW steel pipe as well as our spool mounted coil line pipe.

Speaker 2

Our Williston mega center is now fully operational and we're excited about the growth opportunities and revenue synergies the new center enables. Key successes in the quarter include agreement renewals for IOCs and gas utility and refinery customers to provide PVF and MRO products for their maintenance CapEx spend. During the quarter, we grew market share as we implemented a new PVF commitment with an IOC in the Permian, and we expect the increase in market share to contribute to future revenue growth. Activity improved sequentially with our integrated supply chain services customers as we work to lower their lease operating expenses by managing the demand for products and improving availability of inventory to meet construction and project timeframes. In the downstream market, spending by refining and chemical processing customers remain strong as they ordered project product for projects for turnarounds.

Speaker 2

We are providing PBF products for biodiesel conversion projects at refineries as customers increased our throughput of renewable diesel products. Our U. S. Process Solutions business grew to 26% of our U. S.

Speaker 2

Segment due to revenue additions from the December acquired companies, while demand increased for our lacked units and pump booster packages as the midstream activity was up for us in the quarter. Our vessel fabrication business also remains strong as operators seek to increase their separation capacity for newly completed wells. We are seeing growth in pump packages, air compressors and aftermarket service capabilities in non oil and gas markets, where we are targeting industrial manufacturing and food and beverage producers. We are providing vertical turbine pumps for mining projects and industrial air compressor dryer package to a serial manufacturer in the food and beverage market. Last quarter, we announced our acquisition of Stealth Pump and Supply.

Speaker 2

Looking collectively at the service organizations of Odessa Pumps and Stealth in the Permian, The combined service offering positions DNOW as one of the largest pump service organizations in the oil and gas place. This strength has led to successfully securing a win for a preventative maintenance contract with a large IOC to service over 800 installed pump package units. And outside of oil and gas, we won an additional service contract for a preventative maintenance program for pumps and municipal water districts, further unlocking revenue opportunities in the water, wastewater markets. Our Flexolo business saw increases in demand for water transfer applications as operators sought to expand their use of water recycling as opposed to water disposal to off-site permitted disposal sites. During the quarter, we deployed several of our mobile horizontal pumping units to Canada to support pipeline pressure testing for a new LNG pipeline under construction.

Speaker 2

We saw demand increase for products that mitigate emissions as onshore production operators find solutions to mute their overall environmental footprint. Increased regulation and industry standards around flaring and emissions drive greater demand for many of the natural gas emission reduction products DNOW provides to our customers. Furthermore, we see demand improving for our recently acquired eco vapor oxygen removal systems Applied to Oil and Gas Tank Batteries. During the quarter, our Eco Vapor business expanded their 2 lease fleet as contracted units grew Despite a challenged sub $3 per 1,000,000 BTU's gas environment. The growth during the period speaks to the value proposition of the Zero2's ability to reduce customers' routine gas flaring at tank battery installations by removing oxygen from the collected gas venting from the oil and produced water storage tanks.

Speaker 2

While Ecovapor has traditionally supplied aluminum removal equipment to oil and gas operators, we are seeing an increase in demand for our products in the renewable gas industry, renewable natural gas industry. Similar to oil and gas, RNG operators must address oxygen contamination within the collected waste gas from landfills and bio waste gas sources in order to sell the gas to the midstream market. This challenge is solved using our EcoVapor 2 units. It It opens up a growing market as we see RNG demand increasing. We achieved a notable success and went in a large project for EcoVapor 2 units water separation equipment to swine farm operators who collect and process the biogas to sell to the midstream gas market.

Speaker 2

And since March 31, we were successful in securing the largest eco vapor RNG order from a large landfill gas customer. The ordered units will ensure the project meets the customer's stringent pipeline specifications for their RNG streams. In Canada, revenue was $83,000,000 for the quarter and increased 11% sequentially. Our Canadian team continues to perform well as we supply and service a diverse mix of oil and gas operators, midstream companies, projects through a number of EPC customers and land based drilling contractors. Highlights include strong demand for our valve and actuation solutions for a number of capital projects as well as daily MRO demand.

Speaker 2

Outside of oil and gas, we saw revenue improve from an agribusiness customer with demand for pipe fittings and flanges for a processing plant project. For international, revenue was $74,000,000 a sequential increase of $16,000,000 or 28%. For the past few quarters, quote volume has increased in our international segment as long cycle projects were being budgeted. We are now seeing DNOW win those competitive inquiries, converting those to orders and driving higher revenue in the Q1. In the U.

Speaker 2

K, MRO activity increased with electrical distribution products, industrial and safety equipment and valve products to our MacLean business. We are seeing growing activity tied to increased customer investment in the North Sea as reinvestment in existing fields and new investment in greenfields and FPSOs expand. Revenue expanded with the major IOC as we provided a variety of products to them in the UK, Middle East, West Africa and Asia Pacific. During the quarter, we renewed a 5 year framework agreement for electrical products with a customer based out of the Middle East and an additional agreement for PPE products with a major IOC with downstream refining and petrochemical assets. In Norway, activity increased as customers seek to expand their natural gas exports to Europe to replace a portion of the previously imported Russian gas.

Speaker 2

On several projects, we supply low voltage electrical cable and instrumentation to an EPC to support a subsea tieback project for an offshore production platform. In Australia, inquires are improving for both MRO and greenfield activity as we secured a sizable project for electrical cable in the carbon capture space and secured orders for pumps for an FPSO development with the major IOC. Moving to our Digital Now initiatives, Our digital revenue as a percent of total SAP revenue for the quarter was 43%, lower sequentially due to customer and project billing mix on the top line growth. During the quarter, in Canada, we began receiving purchase orders digitally with a new round trip punch out customer enabling procurement simplicity in driving efficiencies for both parties. This preferred order method delivers incremental revenue efficiently, alleviating costs linked to non digital ordering.

Speaker 2

Within our U. S. Process Solutions organization, we began rolling out our new field service app that allows our pump mechanics to document and perform service work through an all digital interface. We will continue to expand the training and use of this technology Help drive efficiencies and improve customer service. Last quarter, we talked about our FlexFlow OptiWatch solution as a digital real time asset monitoring tool used to measure the performance and health of a horizontal pump working asset.

Speaker 2

We are happy to see that our OptiWatch software solution is gaining popularity with customers as we actively monitor over 100 customer owned horizontal pump units in the field. This provides additional revenue opportunities for field service, maintenance and asset replacement. With that, let me hand it over to Mark.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Dave, and good morning, everyone. Total Q1 2023 revenue was $584,000,000 up $37,000,000 or 7% from the Q4 of 2022 and reaching the highest revenue quarter since the pandemic. On a year over year basis, 1st quarter revenue was up $111,000,000 or 23%. EBITDA excluding other costs or EBITDA for the Q1 was $47,000,000 or 8% of revenue. U.

Speaker 3

S. Revenue for the Q1 2023 totaled $427,000,000 a $13,000,000 increase or 3% higher than the Q4 of 2022. Year over year, U. S. Revenue increased $93,000,000 or 28% from the first quarter of 2022.

Speaker 3

Our U. S. Energy Centers contributed approximately 74% of total U. S. Revenue in the Q1 and our U.

Speaker 3

S. Process solutions contributed 26%. In Canada, for the Q1, revenue totaled $83,000,000 an increase of $8,000,000 or 11 percent from the Q4 of 2022. And year over year, Canada Q1 revenue was relatively flat, increasing $1,000,000 or 1%, limited by a 7% negative foreign currency revenue impact of approximately $6,000,000 International revenue for the Q1 of 2023 was $74,000,000 up $16,000,000 or 28% sequentially. And year over year international first quarter revenue was up $17,000,000 or 30%, despite a 9% negative foreign currency revenue impact of approximately $5,000,000 As anticipated, our first quarter gross margins were down from their recent highs to 23.5%, but remain above the 2021 2022 combined gross margin of 22.9%.

Speaker 3

Warehousing, selling and administrative or WSA for the quarter was $109,000,000 up $5,000,000 sequentially, primarily from a full quarter of operating expenses from our 4th quarter acquisitions and the resetting of limit based payroll tax expense in the New Year. We continue to make progress on reducing WSA as a percent of revenue with our Q1 WSA as percent of revenue improving sequentially and when compared to the Q1 of 2022. In the Q2, we expect WSA to approximate the Q1 level. Moving to operating profit by our geographic segments. In the Q1, the U.

Speaker 3

S. Delivered $23,000,000 in operating profit or 5.4 percent of revenue. Canada delivered $8,000,000 in operating profit or 9.6 percent of revenue and the international segment reported $4,000,000 in operating profit or 5.4 percent of revenue in the Q1 of 2023. Moving to income taxes on a GAAP basis, the effective tax rate for the 3 months ended March 31, 2023 was 8.6%. I remind you this is the effective tax rate as calculated from the face of the income statement and is below the typically expected tax rate at these earnings levels.

Speaker 3

As our income tax expense provision on the income statement includes a favorable tax benefit from the changes in the tax valuation allowance on our deferred tax assets. As such, this is why when imputing our non GAAP tax rate, we exclude such income tax benefits. For modeling purposes, the non GAAP effective tax rate was approximately 26% for 1Q 2023. And for estimating an effective tax rate for the go forward quarter year for modeling net income excluding other costs. A 26% to 28% tax rate is a good estimate and excludes the favorable impact from changes in the valuation allowance.

Speaker 3

Net income attributable to NOW Inc. For the Q1 was $31,000,000 or $0.28 per fully diluted share. And on a non GAAP basis, Q1 2023 net income attributable to NOW Inc, excluding other costs was $28,000,000 or $0.25 per fully diluted share. Moving to the balance sheet. At the end of the quarter, we had 0 debt and a cash position of $168,000,000 Cash decreased by $44,000,000 in the Q1 as we invested in growth of our business with strategic inventory purchases and capital investments, and we repurchased common stock in the quarter to return value to shareholders.

Speaker 3

In the Q1, we reported $6,000,000 of depreciation and amortization expense in line with our expectations following our Q4 2022 acquisitions. In the Q2 of 2023, we expect quarterly depreciation and amortization expense to be between $6,000,000 to $7,000,000 We ended the quarter with total liquidity of $555,000,000 which comprises our net cash position and $387,000,000 in additional credit facility availability. Our existing $500,000,000 revolving credit facility extends into December 2026, providing DNOW with ample access to capital for more than the next three and a half years. Accounts receivable was $422,000,000 an increase of $24,000,000 or 6% from the 4th quarter And inventory was $406,000,000 at the end of the Q1 as we invested $25,000,000 in additional inventory, while Turn rates remained flat sequentially at 4.4 times. A portion of this inventory investment was specifically procured to support several of our process solutions customers with forecasted project growth.

Speaker 3

Accounts payable was $323,000,000 at the end of the first quarter, an increase of $19,000,000 from the Q4. And for the Q1 of 2023, working capital, excluding cash as a percentage of our Q1 annualized revenue was approximately 17.6%. In the first quarter. Net cash used in operating activities was $6,000,000 as we invested more than $50,000,000 in working capital to support growth. 1st quarter free cash flow consumption was $11,000,000 with capital expenditures for the Q1 of 5 invested in operating equipment and facilities to enhance efficiencies and increase service levels to our customers.

Speaker 3

In 2023, we are actively investing and upgrading the utility of key facilities, expanding our rental fleet for the FlexFlow and EcoVapor businesses. With these commitments, we estimate our capital expenditures for full year 2023 could be in the $20,000,000 range. We are looking to generate $100,000,000 in cash from operations in 2023. And when looking back at the trailing 12 months Through 1Q 2023, we are free cash flow positive, having generated $16,000,000 in cash from operations and invested $14,000,000 in the business. This free cash flow generation was achieved on approximately $500,000,000 in annual revenue growth when comparing the trailing 12 months ended 1Q 2023 to the corresponding period ended 1Q 2022.

Speaker 3

This shows how our focus on the fundamentals and discipline managing the business has positioned DNOW to generate cash through the cycles, which bodes well for future growth and capital allocation plans. We continue to execute on our share repurchase program that is authorized through December 31, 2024, with additional repurchases of $36,000,000 in the quarter or 3,300,000 shares of common stock. As of March 31, 2023, we have repurchased $43,000,000 under our $80,000,000 authorized share repurchase program. Our commitment to growing the company through organic growth and acquisitions remains a key priority, While also having the ability to repurchase shares opportunistically as we use the tools in our broadened capital allocation framework to generate attractive shareholder returns Without deviating from our disciplined approach to balance sheet management, we continue to be debt free, have no interest payments on debt, while we keep cash flow generation a priority. And with that, let me turn the call back to Dave.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Mark. Now switching to our outlook for the Q2 of 2023. In the U. S, we expect market share gains, revenue from acquisitions and the beginning of revenue synergies derived from those acquisitions to drive mid single digit sequential quarter growth in the Q2 in the U. S.

Speaker 2

Internationally, we expect approximately $4,000,000 in projects not to recur in the Q2, driving a sequential decline in that segment. And in Canada, the expected seasonality will drive sequential revenue lower. Canada's revenue historically declines approximately 20% sequentially from the Q1 to the Q2 due to the 2nd quarter freeze, thaw, muddy breakup period where heavy equipment and access to production areas is restricted. Taken altogether, we expect DNOW's 2nd quarter sequential revenues to increase in the low single digit percentage range from 1Q 'twenty three in spite of the expected Canadian seasonal decline approximating year over year second quarter growth to 10% for DNOW. We expect Q2 EBITDA to approximate our 1Q 2023 EBITDA dollar level.

Speaker 2

And for the full year 2023, We reaffirm our view that revenue will increase 8% to 12% compared to the full year 2022 revenue and our 2023 full year EBITDA is targeted at 8% of revenue. We anticipate free cash flow will gather momentum as the year progresses and we expect to deliver cash flow from operations of approximately $100,000,000 for the full year 2023. Before we open it up to questions for questions, I'm going to close with some comments about the business. Our year is off to a nice start, including strong top and bottom line performance in the Q1 with revenue growing 7% sequentially, Driving 8% 1st quarter EBITDA as a percent of revenue. Again, solid results.

Speaker 2

We achieved these better than expected results despite headwinds to inclement weather, lower U. S. Rig counts and completions and weaker oil and gas prices in the Q1. We We're excited about our international segment posting strong sequential revenue growth of 28% at operating profit levels not seen since 2014. In the Q1, we returned cash to shareholders by repurchasing $36,000,000 of shares with the cumulative purchase levels exceeding 43,000,000 through March 31.

Speaker 2

And earlier this week, we completed 2 additional acquisitions further strengthening our U. S. Process Solutions business. We are in a great place as a company on solid financial footing with incredible talent singularly focused on our customers. We remain debt free with ample liquidity and possess an advantageous variety of tools to further advance DNOW's position in the market.

Speaker 2

With that, let's open the call for questions.

Operator

Your first question comes from the line of Tommy Moll from Stephens Inc. Your line is open.

Speaker 4

Good morning and thank you for taking my questions.

Speaker 2

Good morning.

Speaker 4

Dave, I wanted to start on the 2nd quarter outlook you provided, if I heard and read correctly. On a sequential basis, revenue up, WS and A dollars flattish, EBITDA dollars flattish. So I presume that means you're giving back a little bit on the gross margin rate. If I'm correct on that, Any drivers there you could point us to would be helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Yes. Good question, Tommy. Yes, that's a good read. That's kind of how we're modeling the Q2. We're going to see a full quarter of now 4 recent acquisitions in the last 4 months.

Speaker 2

We're starting to see some of the gross margin erosion I've been speaking about the last several quarters, which finally hit in the Q1. So I've been talking about gross margins and really pricing as a priority, Because we're always working on high grading our businesses and focusing on the higher margin products, etcetera. But there was a layer of premium pipe margins, Which we enjoyed for a number of quarters because we had product availability where our competition didn't. We were Able to command higher margins. We've been guiding to that layer of premium margins dissipating and it's begun to do so.

Speaker 2

So we We do expect a little margin compression in the Q2, primarily due to Canada. Canada is going to move into a breakup period. Canada tends to be our highest gross margin segment. And as we see that kind of geographic mix kick in, in the second quarter, we'll see a little slippage there. We still expect very strong margins this year.

Speaker 2

We talked last quarter about a 30 basis points full year decline from 2022 to 2023. We saw about 20 basis points decline from a full year 2022 to the Q1 of 20 So we do expect a little more taming of the overall margins, but we're doing everything we can to high grade like we talk So in terms of the Q2, that's how we get there. Like you said, there's 3 big inputs, WSA largely being flat and gross margins eroding a little bit as expected and really seasonally impacted from Canada.

Speaker 4

Thank you. That's helpful. As a follow-up, I wanted to ask about the 2 acquisitions you closed in May. It sounds like they're in the pump and seal distribution space. If you could just talk generally about your appetite for additional deals in that space, why you like it, what the pipeline looks like, are there any sizable deals you're chasing, anything along those lines would be helpful.

Speaker 2

Yes. I'll start it off and then I'm going to hand it to Brad. So I think the 2 deals we closed Tuesday this week, I think it was Tuesday, represents the 10th consecutive process solution acquisition we've made. So we're really focused on growing that business, Growing our primarily our pump business and the seal business as well that came from these two acquisitions. So that's a big part of our focus.

Speaker 2

We will do more deals like that this year. In terms of larger deals, We are talking to companies to try to affect larger ones. And We think that the multiples on these deals could get a little better as interest rates rise And some of the uncertainty kind of happens in the market. So we are looking And that's a big part of our focus. And like I said in my opening comments, we're in a position to really pull all the levers.

Speaker 2

We are focused primarily on growing organically. The market itself isn't growing at the rate as it was last year. Secondarily, we're focused on M and A and we've done 4 deals in 4 months. And thirdly, we're focused on share repurchase and the way our balance sheet the way we manage our balance sheet, we could do all 3. But in terms of details on the acquisitions, Brad, you want to give some color?

Speaker 1

Yes, Dave, Tommy. Good morning. Just some additional color. Back in 2019 DNOW acquired company called PSI out of Wyoming. And it really was Kind of a really good relationship with a top tier pump manufacturer that we sell a lot of pumps in the market as far as new pump packages, But that acquisition in 2019 took us into the mechanical seal area and really expanded our service capability with that manufacturer in addition to some other benefits that, that acquisition provided.

Speaker 1

Positions we closed really earlier this week, kind of build upon that strategy of securing, Broadening our geographic footprint in Wyoming, in Montana, in Colorado, With that same very large pump manufacturer, broadens our capability on the mechanical seal line, Significantly expands our aftermarket service capability. They're really kind of the leader in the Pump Service and Repair Business, very high gross margins, high EBITDA margin. So accretive Our current kind of core base business and that's been part of our acquisition strategy going forward. So we're really excited about These two businesses, they are bolt ons that Dave mentioned in his prepared remarks. And we're going to extract synergies out of that as the year progresses and really excited about expanding our footprint there in that area.

Speaker 2

Just one comment on the synergies. We're going to focus on revenue synergies. We want to grow that business. We are not looking at Really, cost savings from those deals, we're looking at leveraging the sales talent, the competencies of some of the services they provide to customers. We want to grow that business for the rest of Process Solutions and DNOW from a revenue synergy perspective.

Speaker 2

Anyway, thanks.

Speaker 4

Yes. Thank you for the insight. I'll turn it back.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Tommy.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Doug Becker from Capital One. Your line is open.

Speaker 2

Good morning, Doug.

Speaker 5

Good morning. So following along the same lines of questioning, Dave, you highlighted that market share gains, acquisitions and synergies to drive revenue growth in 2Q even as the North America rig count is going to be down. Just wanted to get your thoughts on organic growth for the quarter and the full year, just given the very fluid nature of what's happening in the U. S.

Speaker 2

Yes, I think most of the organic growth we're going to see In the Q2, it's going to happen in the U. S. Of course, we're going to see, like I said, in Canada, seasonal decline in international. We had a really strong quarter. We do expect a number of projects totally about $4,000,000 not to repeat in the Q2.

Speaker 2

So that will kind of moderate the level of activity there. In the U. S, wherever we're going to see most of our organic growth is with Really new customers or having penetrated customers in different regions of their North American footprint. So we're going to see continued growth in South Texas, in the Permian and in the Bakken where we just stood up our mega center there really to leverage multiple DNOW businesses from our FlexFlow business to Eco Vapor to our fiberglass enterprise, etcetera. So we see those as the 3 main areas of growth and it's mostly market share derived.

Speaker 2

We've seen kind of rig counts decline, same thing with completions. We've seen some of the market fundamentals Kind of slow down a little bit. And as it turns out, we have Simply a better mousetrap with how we service our customers and then a sales team that conveys the value with our customers. So we believe market share gains are going to be the primary fuel for us in the second quarter.

Speaker 5

That's really encouraging. How would you characterize DNOW's current exposure to end markets side North America upstream. Just given some of the recent acquisitions and initiatives and just your commentary, it sounds like The end market exposure really has broadened. And I guess at the same time, international and offshore activity seems to be increasing as well. So really just exposure outside North America upstream.

Speaker 1

Yes, Doug, this is Brad. I'll take a shot at that and maybe Dave or Mark might layer on top. But going back, Since we spun off from NOV in 2014, our international business was highly levered to the upstream drilling segment, having to be a kind of a core distributor for NOV and OEM equipment. Since the downturn in international offshore, We've done a good job diversifying our international business. So we're more land based and key areas in the Middle East and the UK and Asia and Australia.

Speaker 1

We're more project centric, executing projects through EPCs, But also large capital projects associated with NOCs and IOCs in different areas. Of course, our McLean Electrical Group, which is a previous acquisition we did, has a very good top management team is driving the business as we expand our electrical distribution capabilities, not only in the UK and Australia, But also exporting that to IOC relationship, global relationships we have in West Africa. So we're seeing that export side of the business pick up. So from a diversification, it's a lot healthier business. We're starting to see the offshore business day rates increase.

Speaker 1

That's a small part of our business now. I would say probably 5% of our international revenue where at one time it was much higher than that. So It's a healthier, more end market diverse, geographically diverse business. And And like we pointed out this quarter, really excited about the growth. We've been waiting for this segment to grow.

Speaker 1

I think We're seeing that, the backlog is picking up, the activity is picking up. So it's finally hitting on all cylinders and excited about the future. As we think, we're seeing more investment in CapEx in the Middle East, certainly with Saudi Arabia and Kuwait and Abu Dhabi and UAE, as well as Norway, all around energy security. They're really kind of driving investment in those areas that We have a pretty good foothold. We're obviously looking to expand, certainly would be open to M and A activity internationally as well.

Speaker 1

So That kind of sums it up.

Speaker 5

And just any commentary on say downstream exposure or kind of new energy exposure. I really hit on the international, I thought very well, but maybe some of the other.

Speaker 3

Sure. Yes. So downstream and internationally, if that was the question specifically, I know Brad.

Speaker 5

Not just internationally, just broadly.

Speaker 3

Sure. Yes, I think really across all geographies, we're seeing expansion in the downstream sector, which has been great. Brad kind of alluded Kind of the offshore over reliance in prior cycles of our business. And now For the international segment, we're seeing the downstream sector play predominantly larger part of that market, where before If you look back 9 years ago, it was single digit percentages probably. And so being able to grow that in to double digit 20 percent plus of international is a bright spot for us.

Speaker 3

And I do think Some of the large projects Dave talked about on the call give us a lot of optimism for this space, for energy evolution And to be able to provide those products that our customers are needing in that arena.

Speaker 5

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Don.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Nathan Jones from Stifel. Your line is open.

Speaker 6

Good morning. This is Adam Farley on for Nathan. I wanted to follow-up on the gross margin line questioning. Are you still seeing inflation in any of your product categories? I understand that line pipe prices Coming down, but have you seen moderation in line pipe given some of the recent moves in other steel prices?

Speaker 2

Well, on the first part about inflation, I think we're seeing Kind of a return to the norm on general inflation. We're not seeing the kind of We're seeing long lead times for certain types of valves and certain product lines. We're seeing But a normalization otherwise, we're starting to see kind of normal pricing with our manufacturers. Manufacturers are trying Push some price increases through, some of them stick, some of them don't, which is kind of a normal tenor

Speaker 5

for a

Speaker 2

less stretch supply chain. So I think we're starting to see more balance in terms of product availability for most products, especially MRO products and fibbings and flanges and routine type valve sales, etcetera. So kind of a reversion to the norm there. So I would say that inflation is kind of normalized now, It's back to a normal behavior for most product lines. We are seeing some product availability issues internationally, and It is slowing some projects down.

Speaker 2

We're seeing less of that in North America. In terms of pipe pricing, what we're seeing primarily in pipe is kind of margin compression as pipe pricing has stabilized, some pipe prices might have come down, With that margin squeezing a little bit, that's due to simply improved product ability for products that only the biggest suppliers could acquire a year ago. Today, it's much more liquid supply chain there. So we're seeing higher cost of inventory, Creating that margin squeeze, but inflation is more normal back to kind of the normal range, I would say, Despite some product lines having long lead times, but that's something we experience on a kind of a regional basis.

Speaker 6

Okay. Thank you for that. And I did want to call out, you You called out weather in the press release impacting the quarter. Was it meaningful enough to quantify the impact from weather? And If it was, would you expect to make up any of that revenue in the near term?

Speaker 2

I think we estimate about $7,000,000 in Revenues lost or deferred, how much of that gets deferred into the Q2, I don't know. Probably some of it would, It's probably a number along those lines, which would amount to 1.5% or so. But that was one of the drags in the Q1. Some of that could slip into the 2nd quarter or slipped into April already. That wasn't the primary, but that was kind of the third reason for or the third kind of headwind in addition to oil and gas prices, completions, etcetera.

Speaker 6

Okay. Thank you for taking my questions.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Adam.

Operator

Our last question comes from Geoffrey Robertson from Water Tower Research. Please go ahead with your question.

Speaker 6

Dave, you mentioned that Good morning. You mentioned Process Solutions represents represented 26%, I think it was of U. S. Revenue in the Q1. Can you talk about where you see that segment revenue going over the next several quarters?

Speaker 6

And I believe if I'm correct, that's Generally, it tends to be a higher margin mix of business for you.

Speaker 2

Yes. So I get that question from time to time. It's hard for me to pinpoint kind of a target number, but I think when we first put together Process Solutions, It accounted for about 18% of our U. S. Revenues.

Speaker 2

Now it's up to 26% and that was several years back. But like I said earlier, The last ten businesses we purchased have been in that space. We think there are revenue synergies for each deal we're doing. Every deal we're doing has better gross and operating margins. But so and overall that reporting unit, I guess, or that business line has better net margins.

Speaker 2

So that's a big focus for us. What that percentage can get to, We joke about that around here because we have 2 pretty strong leaders of this business who want to both grow their business, but I'd like to see that business get to be a third of the U. S. Business and grow beyond that, but I also want to grow our energy business as well. But that's a big target for us.

Speaker 2

It's an area where we're moving more into really high margin kind of rental assets business lines, which we really like. So the bottom line really becomes really more attractive to me than the top line, but we want to grow that business for sure.

Speaker 6

So in terms of the rental businesses, so those are stickier businesses than or maybe not stickier, but a longer duration revenue stream than What you might see on the energy centers?

Speaker 2

Well, it's just primarily better gross margins and that allows for pull through sales of our other businesses. It's complementary to the product lines we already service those customers for. So it just simply gives us a bigger share of the wallet, makes us more important to the customer, and it provides better margins as well. So I think that's the primary motivation for growing that rental business. And there's a repair business that we focus on as well that simply provides better margins and complementary suite of solutions for the customer.

Speaker 6

In your comments, you mentioned some biodiesel project and some landfill gas projects and I think even project on a swine farm. Can you just talk about the opportunity in renewable natural for gas and landfill gas and biodiesel. And is that something that could be become increasingly material for DNOW?

Speaker 2

I'm going to let Brad Brad has his hands up, so he wants to grab this one. Brad?

Speaker 1

Good morning, Jeff. Obviously, we're fairly levered to upstream oil and gas, but we're looking to diversify And we really like the RNG market for a number of reasons. We've sold historically some pipe valves and fittings into the RNG market, but with and also into the biodiesel as some of these refineries in certain states take advantage of opportunities to convert the refining capacity to process biodiesel. Where we have agreements and relationships. We're able to provide products for those biodiesel projects at refineries.

Speaker 1

On the RNG side, the EcoVapor acquisition we did in the Q4 really kind of cements and that we see on the horizon as we see the RNG end market Growing at a higher rate than certainly than oil and gas in the immediate future. So we're excited about what Eco Vapor Can bring to that, whether it's dairy farms, swine farms as they're capturing RNG and having to meet the same stringent requirements that oil and gas operators have to put gas free of oxygen into the midstream takeaway section as well as landfill gas. Traditionally, we haven't done a whole lot in the landfill gas applications, but we see again that opportunity kind of unlock for DNOW with what EcoVapor can provide from a leading project and we think that might open up additional products across process solutions for us with other fabricated pieces of equipment, our pump packages as well as fiberglass pipe as well as just our regular PBF business. So we're pretty bullish on RNG. We're not ready to name a number Not yet on that, but we're excited about the growth and the growth potential that DNOW has in that end market.

Speaker 4

Thank you very much.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. Mr. Brad Wise, I turn the call back over to you.

Speaker 1

Okay. Thank you, Babish, and thank you, everyone, for joining Thank you for your questions today and your interest in NOW Inc. We look forward to talking with everyone on the Q2 2023 earnings conference call in August. Have a nice day, and I'll turn it back to the operator to conclude our call.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may now

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