NASDAQ:III Information Services Group Q1 2023 Earnings Report $3.63 -0.04 (-1.09%) Closing price 04/25/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$3.63 0.00 (0.00%) As of 04/25/2025 04:05 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Information Services Group EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.09Consensus EPS $0.08Beat/MissBeat by +$0.01One Year Ago EPSN/AInformation Services Group Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$78.49 millionExpected Revenue$73.88 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$4.61 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/AInformation Services Group Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2023Date5/8/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateTuesday, May 9, 2023Conference Call Time9:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsInformation Services Group's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 8, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Friday, May 9, 2025 at 9:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Information Services Group Q1 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 9, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome everyone to the Information Services Group First Quarter Conference Call. This call is being recorded and will be available on ISG's website within 24 hours. Now I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Barry Holt, for his opening remarks and introductions. Mr. Operator00:00:20Holt, please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:24Thank you, operator. Hello and good morning. My name is Barry Holt. I'm a Senior Communications Executive at ISG. I'd like to welcome everyone to IHG's 1st quarter conference call. Speaker 100:00:34I'm joined today by Michael Connors, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer and Bert Alfonso, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to read a forward looking statement. It is important to note that this communication may contain forward looking statements, which represent the current expectations and beliefs of the management of ISG concerning future events and their potential effects. These statements are not guarantees of future results and are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated. For a more detailed listing of the risks and other factors that could affect future results, please refer to the forward looking statement contained in our Form 8 ks that was furnished last night to the SEC and the Risk Factors section in ISG's Form 10 ks covering full year results. Speaker 100:01:19You should also read ISG's Annual Report on Form 10 ks and any other relevant documents, including any amendments or supplements to these documents filed with the SEC. You'll be able to obtain free copies of many of ISG's SEC filings on either ISG's website at www.isgone.com or the SEC's website at www.sec.gov. ISG undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward looking statement to reflect subsequent events or circumstances. During this call, we will discuss certain non GAAP financial measures, which ISG believes improves the comparability of the company's financial results between periods and provides for greater transparency of key measures used to evaluate the company's performance. The non GAAP measures, which we will touch on today, include adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net earnings and the presentation of selected financial on a constant currency basis. Speaker 100:02:11Non GAAP measures are provided as additional information and should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for financial results prepared in accordance with GAAP. For the reconciliation of all non GAAP measures presented to the most closely applicable GAAP measure, Please refer to our current report on Form 8 ks, which was filed last night with the SEC. And now, I'd like to turn the call over to Mike O'Connors, who will be followed by Bert Alfonso? Speaker 200:02:39Thank you, Barry, and good morning, everyone. Today, we will review our record revenue for the Q1, Our significant recurring revenue growth, our 2025 targets for margins and recurring revenues Under Phase 2 of our ISG NEXT operating model, the increase in our dividend and our outlook for the 2nd quarter. ISG delivered a strong start to the year with revenues reaching an all time quarterly high of $78,000,000 up 12% in constant currency and led by 17% growth in the Americas, our largest region. We continue to expand our recurring revenues, reaching a record $33,000,000 up 27% versus the prior year and representing 42% of our firm wide revenues this quarter. Recurring revenues were driven by double digit operating growth in GovernX Vendor Compliance and Risk Management Business and in our Research Business. Speaker 200:03:47Our adjusted EBITDA reached a first Quarter record of $11,000,000 As you recall, we decided to further invest during the second half of last year in hiring additional talent in anticipation of growing client demand the next couple of years. That decision is beginning to pay off in our top line growth. We expect this group to blend in from a productivity standpoint by mid year. The client demand environment is being driven in 2 areas: Ongoing transformation, both digital and business and secondly, cost optimization. Transformation is focused on key digital areas, including customer experience, future workplace, Cloud, cybersecurity, application modernization and data analytics. Speaker 200:04:43In the end, it's all about creating a secure, intelligent, connected enterprise. Clients are also prioritizing transformation projects that focus on cost takeout, productivity and quick returns. When it comes to cost optimization, they are taking 1 of 2 approaches: taking out cost and dropping the savings to the bottom line or utilizing the savings to grow the business through digital initiatives. ISG is in an ideal position to help Our clients power through in the current environment. Our portfolio of digital transformation, digital sourcing and Cost Optimization Services, supported by our proprietary research and SaaS platforms, Continues to be a winning combination for our clients. Speaker 200:05:40Under our ISG NEXT operating model, We have realized tremendous results over the last two years. We have grown our adjusted EBITDA by more than 50% And our adjusted EBITDA margin by more than 30% or about 3.75 basis points, due in large part to our efficient iFlex delivery network and higher margin portfolio of solutions. We have also grown our client base by more than 20% to over 900 clients. Thanks to our enhanced value proposition and solution centric approach. ISG NEXT has served us and our clients very well during the pandemic years. Speaker 200:06:26Now in the post pandemic era, we are ready to embark on Phase 2 of ISG NEXT. By the end of 2025, we aim to expand our adjusted EBITDA margin A further 200 basis points from the end of 2022 to approximately 17% and accelerate the growth of our recurring revenues to $150,000,000 after surpassing our previous target of 100,000,000 last year. We are excited about the future of ISG and look forward to our next phase of growth as we prepare our clients now for the post pandemic digital economy. We are already seeing early glimpses of What lies ahead? Chat GPT and other types of generative AI are grabbing headlines, But that's only the tip of the spear among the new technologies being developed today that will transform our world tomorrow. Speaker 200:07:30At ISG, we are harnessing our growing expertise in AI and applying it to our own operations and product development. For example, in 2022, we acquired a company called Agreement and its AI driven smart contracting tool. We are now using agreement to help drive recurring revenue growth in such areas as our flagship platform solution ISG GovernX. There will be many more such developments going forward as we look to build out our repeatable platform capabilities, Improve our efficiency and deliver more value to additional segments of the market. ISG is built on a culture of innovation and entrepreneurship. Speaker 200:08:17I'm confident our unrelenting drive to excel will carry us into the future and allow us to capture the growth opportunities ahead and meet the 2025 targets we are unveiling today. Now turning to our regions. The Americas had an excellent Q1 delivering $48,000,000 of revenue, up 17% versus the prior year on the strength of our digital cost optimization and market leading sourcing offerings. During Q1, we saw double digit growth in our consumer, banking, insurance, manufacturing, energy and Utilities Industry Verticals. And among our services, network, software advisory and GovernX were also all up double digits. Speaker 200:09:09Key client engagements during the Q1 included Bell Canada, CNO Financial Group, Owens and Minor and Centene. During the quarter, a global IT service provider renewed its subscription to ProBenchmark, Our market leading pricing research service for 3 years in a deal worth more than $1,000,000 We also won a multimillion dollar technology cost optimization engagement with a major managed healthcare provider covering many of our services, including operating model design, automation, benchmarking, network, Software and Cybersecurity. Our holistic approach, we expect to save this client more than $100,000,000 annually. In addition, we extended our ISG Automation Services and licenses for 3 years with a large Canadian telecommunications provider. Now turning to Europe. Speaker 200:10:15Our Q1 revenues of $3,000,000 were up 5% in constant currency over last year. For the quarter, Europe delivered double digit revenue growth in our media, Energy, Utilities and Manufacturing Industry Verticals and in our GovernX Network, Software Advisory and Research Businesses. Key client engagements in Europe in the Q1 included HIGREVE, Munich Re, Union IT Services and Beltheus Bank. During the quarter, the Ministry of of 1 European country awarded ISG $1,000,000 engagement to modernize their legacy application architecture. Scope includes IT Service Management and an identity and access management framework. Speaker 200:11:09We also won a $1,000,000 engagement with a major European banking company to redesign their technology delivery model and select new partners to support their future business and digital strategy. And we secured a significant with an oil and gas company in Germany to provide advisory and project management services on an SAP engagement. Now turning to Asia Pacific, our Q1 revenues of $7,000,000 were down about $200,000 in constant currency Or essentially flat with last year. We generated double digit growth in our network, software advisory and GovernX businesses. Key clients in the quarter included the Australian Department of Home Affairs and the Insurance Australia Group. Speaker 200:11:59In a very positive development, we very recently won a new $5,000,000 contract with longtime client, the Australian Taxation Office or ATO to revamp their provider ecosystem and lay the groundwork Now turning to our dividend. In our ongoing commitment to reward shareholders, I am delighted to announce Our Board of Directors has authorized a 12.5% increase in our quarterly dividend. The new quarterly rate, $0.045 per share or $0.18 per year will be reflected in our dividend payment on June 30 to shareholders of record as of June 7. This decision reflects our continuing long term progress and outlook for the business. Now let me turn to guidance. Speaker 200:12:54Even in an uncertain macro environment, demand for our services remains strong. Enterprises continue to invest in digital to maintain and build competitive advantage, and they are looking for ways to fund those investments by optimizing their technology and business environments. This is right in our sweet spot. ISG is the go to partner for helping clients create their digital futures and achieve operational excellence. We are optimistic and energized by our prospects. Speaker 200:13:30We are also mindful of the economic factors that could impact the timing of client decision making, including inflation, Possible recession, geopolitical and banking concerns and talent shortages. In consideration of all this, for 2nd quarter, we are targeting revenues of between $73,000,000 $75,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA between $10,000,000 $11,000,000 So with that, let me turn the call over to Bert, who will summarize our financial results. Bert? Speaker 300:14:05Thank you, Mike, and good morning, everyone. As Mike mentioned, ISG delivered all time record revenues and recorded 1st quarter adjusted EBITDA to start the year. Revenues for the Q1 were $78,500,000 up 8% on a reported basis and 12% in constant currency Compared with the Q1 of last year, currency negatively impacted reported revenues by $2,100,000 versus the prior year. In the Americas, reported revenues were $48,400,000 up 17% versus the prior year. In Europe, revenues were $23,100,000 down 2% on a reported basis and up 5% in constant currency. Speaker 300:14:50And in Asia Pacific, revenues were $7,000,000 down 8% reported and down 3% in constant currency. 1st quarter adjusted EBITDA was $11,000,000 up 3% from last year, resulting in an EBITDA margin of 14%, down 68 basis points compared with the prior year's Q1. In constant currency, adjusted EBITDA was up 8% compared with the prior year. 1st quarter operating income was $7,100,000 compared with $7,700,000 in the prior year. Net income for the quarter was 3.5 1st quarter adjusted net income was $6,000,000 or $0.12 per fully diluted share compared with adjusted net income of 6,400,000 or $0.12 per fully diluted share in the prior year's Q1. Speaker 300:15:52Headcount as of March 31, 23 was 1628, up 29 professionals or 1.8% from Q4. Consulting utilization for the Q1 was 71% impacted by our additional second half hiring last year and the time needed to onboard billable resources. Our balance sheet continues to have the strength and flexibility to support our business over the long term. For the quarter, net cash used from operations was $3,400,000 We ended the quarter with $23,700,000 of cash, down from $30,600,000 at year end. During the Q1, ISG paid dividends totaling $2,000,000 and repurchased $600,000 of shares. Speaker 300:16:41Our next quarterly dividend will be payable on June 30 to shareholders of record on June 7. Our debt balance is at $79,200,000 unchanged from the year end, and our debt to EBITDA ratio remains in great shape at 1.8x. Our average borrowing rate for the quarter was 6.3%, up from 2% last year, And we ended the quarter with 48,400,000 shares outstanding. Mike will now make some concluding remarks before we go to the Q and A. Back to you, Mike. Speaker 200:17:15Thank you, Bert. To summarize, ISG is off to a strong start in 2023, Delivering record revenues, record recurring revenues and record adjusted EBITDA in the Q1. Our portfolio of digital transformation, sourcing and cost optimization services, Research and SaaS platforms continues to be a winning combination for our clients. We have Tremendous growth opportunities ahead as we help our clients prepare for the next wave of the digital economy and become secure, intelligent, connected enterprises. Capitalizing on those opportunities, We plan to deliver an additional 200 basis points of margin improvement and reach $150,000,000 in recurring revenue by the end of 2025 under Phase 2 of ISG NEXT. Speaker 200:18:13And we continue to reward our shareholders, raising our dividend 12.5 percent to $0.18 per share annually. As always, We are focused on creating shareholder value for the long term and we are steadfast in our mission to deliver operational excellence to our clients. So thank you very much for calling in this morning. And now let me turn the session over to the operator for your questions. Operator00:18:43Absolutely. We will now take the first question from Joe Gomez with Noble Capital Markets. You may proceed. Speaker 200:19:10Hi, guys. Speaker 400:19:10This is Joshua Zolfo filling in. Joe Gomez is on another call. Speaker 500:19:15So I just wanted to say congrats Speaker 400:19:16on the quarter. Speaker 200:19:18Thank you. Speaker 400:19:20And I just wanted to To kind of get a first question in there, I saw that just with obviously these revenues increasing, I saw also direct costs and advisory Services kind of increasing as well, probably by like 200 basis points. Is that kind of a should we expect that to come down or do you think that might be just the new run rate we have? Speaker 300:19:44Yes, Josh, let me sort of cover that for you on the operating income. Our direct costs, as you mentioned, were up about $5,000,000 or 200 basis points. We had some small offset to that on the SG and A side. We were down about 60 basis And we have a little bit of higher amortization as well, but we typically have some higher Costs in Q1, they tend to be payroll tax related as they come back in. But our expectation and We also commented on the utilization rate, which is at 71% is really on the low end of our targeting. Speaker 300:20:22We have tended to be in the mid-70s and we our expectation is that we will bring that back into the mid-70s as the hiring that we did in the back half of last year, Which was more concentrated in Q4, come up to speed in terms of full potential for our billable resources. So we do expect that to improve into the second quarter and certainly into the back half. Speaker 400:20:48Okay, perfect. And so now that we're just kind of a quarter into the What are you guys noticing just in the trend regarding just in person events? And what is the Expectation do you guys have for just the rest of this year? Speaker 200:21:06Did you say in person events? Speaker 300:21:07Yes. Speaker 200:21:09Yes. Yes. So, no, we definitely have a full roster of events planned for the full year. We've held Speaker 300:21:21a few Speaker 200:21:21of those during the Q1 all in person and we have a series of events in each of the next three quarters That we are planning to do both here in the U. S. As well as in Europe. Speaker 400:21:37Okay, perfect. And then just lastly, and this is regarding The pipeline for acquisition, is it I know you guys kind of commented last year that you guys are more focused on recurring revenue prospects. How is that looking? And Just pricing wise, have the kind of the economic uncertainty kind of made things just look a little bit better pricing wise, a little bit worse? Just probably just a little color on that. Speaker 200:22:04So yes, on the M and A side, our focus continues to be our we call our string of pearls approach, Which is around bolt on acquisitions in areas like recurring revenue or increasing our Capabilities around digital or hot areas, and we continue to have dialogue with possible targets. In terms of the pricing, we have always been very disciplined in our approach to pricing. And I don't know that I would say that the Pricing is all that different at the moment. You still have owner operators who have a feel and a value that they expect. And yes, the environment is slightly softer, but if their business overall is holding up, then frankly, we have not seen a lot of Softness on the pricing side of it. Speaker 200:23:00Overall, you might have a tick down, but it's nothing of real significant materiality in my view. Speaker 400:23:09Okay, perfect. Yes, well congrats on the quarter again guys. Speaker 300:23:13Yes. Thank you, Sean. Operator00:23:16Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Mark Riddick with Sidoti and Company. You may proceed. Speaker 500:23:26Hey, good morning. Speaker 300:23:28Good morning. Speaker 100:23:29Mark, good morning. Speaker 500:23:31So I wanted to jump right into Couple of things. First of all, it was a pleasant surprise to see the Phase 2 announcing. You've kind of hinted on multiple pieces as to maybe How we're going to get there? But I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about, I mean, between the strength of the recurring revenue, as Well as, sort of the ramp up of those that were hired last year. Maybe you could talk a little bit about those margin expansion opportunities and sort of what gives you that level of confidence to announce Phase 2 at this point going ahead? Speaker 300:24:08Yes. Speaker 200:24:11So first, Mark, thanks for the question. Look, we have We had a very robust quarter on recurring revenue, as you saw, over $30,000,000 But we are we Continue to build out our research capabilities. We continue to build out our platform, which is anchored by GovernX, Which is our risk management platform that a lot of clients like because of supply chain, regulatory Issues, etcetera, ProBenchmark, which is our pricing platform, and our longer term contracts that we have with clients and especially in the public sector. And when we think about how that is moving along, we're using our AI platform that we acquired from agreement a year ago that is able to use artificial intelligence to read these contracts Has been also quite a boost for us relative to our GovernX business. And as we think about subscriptions, we think about solutions in these areas, We feel confident that we can reach $150,000,000 just as we had said back in 2020, we would get to 100,000,000 Maybe we don't know the exact complete path, but we have a way forward and we see these businesses continuing to excel And that's why we're confident along that line and that's why we decided to come out today and let you know that that's where we're headed. Speaker 500:25:54Great. And then I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about you made mention in your prepared remarks as far as New accounts and I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about that because that certainly obviously is encouraging and it sounds as though These new accounts are coming on for both offensive and defensive reasons. And maybe I could talk a little bit about How those are these sort of driven by cost optimization more than growth? And maybe you can talk a little bit about the sales cycle as well. Is it along the lines of the traditional sales cycle? Speaker 500:26:30Or are you getting a sense that it's a little accelerated because of the macroeconomic environment? Speaker 200:26:36Yes, good question. So let me parse it slightly. First, in terms of what are we seeing and it varies a bit by industry segment. So if we think about, we kind of ourselves, we put a kind of a 4 box together and we think about Companies right now that are looking to stabilize and we see a lot of that around specialty retailers, media, airlines, Hi tech firms. If you think about who's wanting to kind of seize the moment because they can, We see companies like pharma, medical devices, utilities, manufacturing that are increasing And moving at maybe a faster pace and are not in a stabilization mode. Speaker 200:27:27So as a result, kind of the Forks in the road, one is cost optimization and that tends to be those that really need to stabilize. And you have on the other side of it, you have let me continue to pursue with some energy around transformation. And so it varies by industry segment, but to the speed point that you asked, cost optimization is moving fast. So we might get a meeting with CIO today who wants to take out $200,000,000 of cost and how fast can that be done and can you start on Monday? So that's Kind of a speed on optimization. Speaker 200:28:15On transformation on the other side, what a lot of them are doing that's a little bit Slower, so the pace is still moving, but maybe at a slower pace than the optimization engagements are moving. So having both of those in our toolkit have been quite helpful to us and that is kind of what has driven The significant growth for us as you saw in the Q1. I hope that answers your question. Speaker 500:28:44Industry No, it definitely does. Yes. Yes. No, that's very, very helpful. Thank you. Speaker 500:28:51And I guess the last one from me. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about we had the headcount additions last year that have ramped up. Do you get the sense that you'll need to add more folks to take advantage of these new wins and new opportunities that you're seeing? And if so, can you sort of maybe give an update as to maybe the availability of talent that you see out there? Thanks. Speaker 200:29:16Yes, the burst I think that we did during the back half of the year we think will carry us through 2023. The exceptions to that will be some surgical hires in specialty areas like digital And then there's a few instances that we may do that might get us up some chunks of employees if we execute against it, which is we have some clients, who are asking to take advantage of Our new TAS service, which you'll recall is training as a service, we have a very large top twenty Fortune Company, who is negotiating with us basically to kind of take over their training organization and put it into our TAS service. And if you do something like that, you might pick up You know, 10, 15, 25 people, because we would probably transfer those out of the enterprise and take Some of them, we would not need all of them with a service like that. So that's the only other, I would call it, kind of exception, Mark, that we might see during the course of the year because we have a few clients that like our TAS concept And are looking to maybe an alternative way to go forward in their enterprise. Speaker 200:30:40So that's how we see the headcount. On talent availability, I will say that We because of our business model and the way we do our mix with cash and stock, etcetera, We are very attractive and that was why we were able to add since Q1 last year, I think it's around 225 plus people. We are able to access the talent that we need, and we think it's available if we need it. Speaker 500:31:11Sounds good. Thank you very much. Speaker 200:31:14Thanks, Mark. Operator00:31:18Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Michael Matheson with Singular Research. You may proceed. Speaker 600:31:28Good morning, gentlemen. Speaker 200:31:30Good morning. Speaker 600:31:33Congratulations. Great numbers across the board. I have a couple of questions. Your year over year comparisons have been hurt for a long time due to currency headwinds. When you look across your geographic mix, should we be lifting our long term revenue forecast with the dollar stabilizing a bit or possibly trending down? Speaker 300:31:58Yes. Thanks, Michael. Thanks for the question. 1st quarter certainly was a downshift from the We had over $3,000,000 of impact in Q4 and down to about $2,000,000 in Q1. To your point, we see the 2nd quarter being not Really heavily impacted on the downside. Speaker 300:32:22And so while we may have some negative impact with the euro up around 110 And the pound around $125,000,000 it's starting to approach numbers that we saw last year. And so we think the 2nd quarter will be somewhat benign. We could see some tailwind, if you want to describe it that way, in the back half if the trend continues. And Again, that assumes that the Fed will be finished around midyear and that the European Bank still has a little ways to go because they have a bit more Energy inflation than we do, but we're not projecting that right now to be honest. We're thinking it sort of levels out in Q2 and stays reasonably flat To year end, we don't think there's going to be a big impact one way or another in the back half, but we certainly don't see The headwind that we're seeing in the Q1 continue. Speaker 600:33:15Great. Very helpful. Thank you. Last one for me. In most quarters, ISG's assets generate a lot of operating cash flows. Speaker 600:33:25This quarter was an exception, negative 3,400,000 Would you comment on what drove the swing? Speaker 300:33:32Yes, sure. Well, as you might have noted, we did have slightly lower net income In the quarter, and what drove it really was working capital requirements. With the increase in the Q1 sales reaching a new high, and that also It was a little bit compounded by we had a very strong finish to the quarter in March. And so our higher receivables, If you look at them quarter on quarter, we're up about $3,400,000 and we also had slightly higher payables. And some of that comes from additional payroll That come into the Q1 of the year. Speaker 300:34:14So those sort of level out to the year. I would mention that our receivables are in Very good shape. We're sort of approaching almost 90% in terms of our current and 1 to 30s overdue. So no concerns on collectability. And we haven't had to put up any reserves that are material in any way. Speaker 300:34:36So it really was a working capital Question and as I mentioned, we also did have slightly lower net income. No tax implication. It was about even year on year. Speaker 600:34:47Okay, great. Very helpful explanation. Thanks and congratulations again on the floor. Speaker 300:34:53Thank you. Thanks, Michael. Operator00:34:56Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Vincent Colicchio with Barrington Research. You may proceed. Speaker 700:35:06Yes. Nice quarter, Mike. I have a couple of questions. So is there anything systematic in terms of why the Americas was so relatively strong this quarter? And Perhaps Europe and APAC are seeing slower sales cycles or anything like that or maybe it was a big deal in the Americas market. Speaker 700:35:28And Should we continue to see the Americas outperform in the balance of the year? Speaker 200:35:34Yes. So on the Americas, Vince, thanks For the comments, on the Americas, there was no outlier in terms of big deal or anything in the But what the environment is in the U. S, slightly different, I think elsewhere is the digital Transformation work continues at some pace. That coupled with Optimization efforts somewhat to fund the digital transformation efforts in the U. S. Speaker 200:36:09We've got both of those categories, if you will, really humming on all cylinders. So the optimization is driving cost takeout, which is then being moved over to the digital side in the U. S. In Europe, slightly different. We're seeing cost optimization, but they are using cost optimization in many instances to take to the bottom line As the markets over in Europe companies are experiencing, I would say, a little more softness, a little more macro Than the U. Speaker 200:36:42S. Environment is. So we see the heavier demand on kind of the optimization, sourcing optimization, etcetera. And digital transformation continues, but I would say it's at a bit of a slower pace in Europe. On Asia Pacific, I wouldn't read anything into it. Speaker 200:37:00That has some ups and downs. They had a very strong comps in the 1st two quarters of this year. We expect Asia Pacific to perform on a full year basis as they always have. So I wouldn't read anything into Asia Pacific. The only area that we continue to keep an eye on, of course, is I think is in Europe, where their macro environment, U. Speaker 200:37:21K. In particular, It's a little tougher than it is, I think, elsewhere in the world. Speaker 700:37:28And if you look at your sales pipelines for the areas that you mentioned Demand sweet spots are digital transformation, digital sourcing, cost optimization. Does that give you confidence that we could see a healthy second half versus the prior year? Speaker 200:37:47Yes. I mean, I think We are confident in our full year. Of course, they always the health warning I always give is we don't know what the macro environment has Ahead of us, so we just use that as a bit of a caution. But if that is somewhat neutral and nothing goes off The path too far, then we feel very good about the demand environment and our role to help execute against it for the full year. Speaker 700:38:18And on your recurring revenue objective of 150,000,000 I assume a portion of that is going to be acquisitions. How fast do you think that the recurring revenue can grow organically The next 2 Speaker 200:38:36years. Yes. So that $150,000,000 is organic. If we were able to do any inorganic, then that would be Additive to that Vince, but we think on an organic basis that we can reach around that number in the timeframe we described. So We're quite confident in how we are building that business. Speaker 700:38:59Well, that's a fairly impressive number. So could you give a little detail on Which areas you think are be the most important growth drivers? Speaker 200:39:09Yes, I mean, I think it's 3. Number 1 Our research business continues to thrive. So that's our proprietary research. We have Insights that no one else can have because we have such a large market share in the sourcing environment. We're number 1 there by a wide degree And that gives us lots of real live engagement data. Speaker 200:39:34That is a powerful force in the market. So we continue to believe that research will outperform the overall firm in terms of growth. Our GovernX business, which is our risk management, supplier management platform that large enterprises use to help manage their large technology contracts With the likes of IBM or AT and T and others, we continue to believe that will also Thrive and outgrow our overall firm and using our agreement technology, which is the AI Smart contract technology that we acquired a year ago has been a big boom for that business and we That to continue over the next few years. Thirdly is our larger multi year contracts in areas of the public Sector, we continue to feel that our digital environment to help with a Speaker 500:40:34lot of legacy Speaker 200:40:37Technology and government, whether that's in the state or local in the U. S. Or whether that's in major governments in the UK, Italy, Germany Or Australia, where we have our government federal government type work, we continue to see that as Legacy technology gets older than the workforce in many of these governments are aging, Then the modernization becomes more pronounced and we feel we're pretty well positioned there. So when we add all of those elements together, We feel quite strong about our recurring revenue capabilities. Speaker 700:41:17Thank you. And Bert, one quick one for you. I don't want to leave you out. What was the contribution of acquisitions in the quarter? Speaker 300:41:27Acquisitions was not quite about 1,500,000 Thank you. Speaker 200:41:37Thanks, Vince. Speaker 300:41:39You're welcome. Operator00:41:41Thank you. The final question comes from the line of Dave Storms with Stonegate Capital Markets. You may proceed. Speaker 300:41:51Good morning. Good morning. Speaker 800:41:55Just wondering if you could touch on Your revenue came in above guidance as you mentioned. Congrats on that. Just wondering if you could touch on what the main drivers of that outperformance was? Was Timing thing, was there something systematic, any guidance, anything else you can give us there would be helpful. Speaker 200:42:12Thanks, David. Look, I think the demand environment around our portfolio Was higher than we would even have expected. And as I mentioned earlier, there's kind of 2 forks The road that companies are taking at the moment. 1 is around deep optimization of cost and the other is to continue Or accelerate their digital transformation journey, both of which are our sweet spots. And on the cost optimization, because it is a bit of a faster decisioning than the other. Speaker 200:42:53And when cost optimization increases, which it has during the Q1, then decisions are made faster and you can start sooner. And therefore, the revenue generates maybe earlier than a normal sales cycle goes, because the need to take the cost out is more immediate Then a more transformation journey, which takes some time. So those would be probably the key drivers that we would see during the 1st quarter that kind of drove the outperformance. Speaker 800:43:27Very helpful. Thank you. And then lastly, could you just talk a little more about your current leverage levels? You have a lot of headwind before hitting your covenants. Just This is how you're thinking about either using or not using that liquidity. Speaker 300:43:43Yes. Thanks for the question, David. As you know, in the first Quarter, we had announced the renewal of our credit agreement, right? In short, we're on full revolver now. We've been able to maintain A trailing EBITDA net debt ratio that's So 2% or 2x, about 1.8%. Speaker 300:44:06So we're very pleased with that. We could consider it under leverage, if you will. I think it gives us Optionality with respect to acquisitions, which we don't include in any of our forecasts. We do have additional flexibility now under the previous credit agreement. We had Mandatory principal payments of a little over $1,000,000 per quarter, and those have gone away. Speaker 300:44:35I don't want to insinuate that we wouldn't continue to pay down debt as cash flow permits. But right now, We feel that we have that optionality. We like that. We continue to look in the marketplace for opportunities to grow inorganically. And we're not with the for the right strategic acquisition, we're fine with being at 2.5 plus, If that makes perfect sense for the firm in terms of growth and profit generation. Speaker 300:45:05So we're really happy with our balance sheet leverage, But we think that gives us more options in the future, and that's a good thing for us and for the shareholders. Operator00:45:25Thank you. There are no additional questions waiting at this time. So I would now like to pass the conference back to the management team for any additional or closing remarks. Speaker 200:45:35Well, let me close by saying thank you to all our professionals Worldwide for their dedication to our clients and for working together as a global team to achieve our record first quarter results. Our people have a passion for delivering the best advice and support to our clients as they continue their digital journeys and I could not be prouder of them. And thanks to Operator00:46:13That concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. 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Email Address About Information Services GroupInformation Services Group (NASDAQ:III), together with its subsidiaries, operates as a technology research and advisory company in the Americas, Europe, and the Asia Pacific. The company offers digital transformation services, including automation, cloud, and data analytics; sourcing advisory; managed governance and risk; network carrier; technology strategy and operations design; change management; and market intelligence and technology research and analysis services. It supports private and public sector organizations to transform and optimize their operational environments. The company also provides ISG Digital, a client solution platform that helps clients developing technology, transformation, sourcing, and digital solutions; and ISG Enterprise, a client solution platform that helps clients manage change and optimize operations in areas comprising finance, human resource, and Procure2Pay. 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There are 9 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good morning, and welcome everyone to the Information Services Group First Quarter Conference Call. This call is being recorded and will be available on ISG's website within 24 hours. Now I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Barry Holt, for his opening remarks and introductions. Mr. Operator00:00:20Holt, please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:24Thank you, operator. Hello and good morning. My name is Barry Holt. I'm a Senior Communications Executive at ISG. I'd like to welcome everyone to IHG's 1st quarter conference call. Speaker 100:00:34I'm joined today by Michael Connors, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer and Bert Alfonso, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to read a forward looking statement. It is important to note that this communication may contain forward looking statements, which represent the current expectations and beliefs of the management of ISG concerning future events and their potential effects. These statements are not guarantees of future results and are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated. For a more detailed listing of the risks and other factors that could affect future results, please refer to the forward looking statement contained in our Form 8 ks that was furnished last night to the SEC and the Risk Factors section in ISG's Form 10 ks covering full year results. Speaker 100:01:19You should also read ISG's Annual Report on Form 10 ks and any other relevant documents, including any amendments or supplements to these documents filed with the SEC. You'll be able to obtain free copies of many of ISG's SEC filings on either ISG's website at www.isgone.com or the SEC's website at www.sec.gov. ISG undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward looking statement to reflect subsequent events or circumstances. During this call, we will discuss certain non GAAP financial measures, which ISG believes improves the comparability of the company's financial results between periods and provides for greater transparency of key measures used to evaluate the company's performance. The non GAAP measures, which we will touch on today, include adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net earnings and the presentation of selected financial on a constant currency basis. Speaker 100:02:11Non GAAP measures are provided as additional information and should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for financial results prepared in accordance with GAAP. For the reconciliation of all non GAAP measures presented to the most closely applicable GAAP measure, Please refer to our current report on Form 8 ks, which was filed last night with the SEC. And now, I'd like to turn the call over to Mike O'Connors, who will be followed by Bert Alfonso? Speaker 200:02:39Thank you, Barry, and good morning, everyone. Today, we will review our record revenue for the Q1, Our significant recurring revenue growth, our 2025 targets for margins and recurring revenues Under Phase 2 of our ISG NEXT operating model, the increase in our dividend and our outlook for the 2nd quarter. ISG delivered a strong start to the year with revenues reaching an all time quarterly high of $78,000,000 up 12% in constant currency and led by 17% growth in the Americas, our largest region. We continue to expand our recurring revenues, reaching a record $33,000,000 up 27% versus the prior year and representing 42% of our firm wide revenues this quarter. Recurring revenues were driven by double digit operating growth in GovernX Vendor Compliance and Risk Management Business and in our Research Business. Speaker 200:03:47Our adjusted EBITDA reached a first Quarter record of $11,000,000 As you recall, we decided to further invest during the second half of last year in hiring additional talent in anticipation of growing client demand the next couple of years. That decision is beginning to pay off in our top line growth. We expect this group to blend in from a productivity standpoint by mid year. The client demand environment is being driven in 2 areas: Ongoing transformation, both digital and business and secondly, cost optimization. Transformation is focused on key digital areas, including customer experience, future workplace, Cloud, cybersecurity, application modernization and data analytics. Speaker 200:04:43In the end, it's all about creating a secure, intelligent, connected enterprise. Clients are also prioritizing transformation projects that focus on cost takeout, productivity and quick returns. When it comes to cost optimization, they are taking 1 of 2 approaches: taking out cost and dropping the savings to the bottom line or utilizing the savings to grow the business through digital initiatives. ISG is in an ideal position to help Our clients power through in the current environment. Our portfolio of digital transformation, digital sourcing and Cost Optimization Services, supported by our proprietary research and SaaS platforms, Continues to be a winning combination for our clients. Speaker 200:05:40Under our ISG NEXT operating model, We have realized tremendous results over the last two years. We have grown our adjusted EBITDA by more than 50% And our adjusted EBITDA margin by more than 30% or about 3.75 basis points, due in large part to our efficient iFlex delivery network and higher margin portfolio of solutions. We have also grown our client base by more than 20% to over 900 clients. Thanks to our enhanced value proposition and solution centric approach. ISG NEXT has served us and our clients very well during the pandemic years. Speaker 200:06:26Now in the post pandemic era, we are ready to embark on Phase 2 of ISG NEXT. By the end of 2025, we aim to expand our adjusted EBITDA margin A further 200 basis points from the end of 2022 to approximately 17% and accelerate the growth of our recurring revenues to $150,000,000 after surpassing our previous target of 100,000,000 last year. We are excited about the future of ISG and look forward to our next phase of growth as we prepare our clients now for the post pandemic digital economy. We are already seeing early glimpses of What lies ahead? Chat GPT and other types of generative AI are grabbing headlines, But that's only the tip of the spear among the new technologies being developed today that will transform our world tomorrow. Speaker 200:07:30At ISG, we are harnessing our growing expertise in AI and applying it to our own operations and product development. For example, in 2022, we acquired a company called Agreement and its AI driven smart contracting tool. We are now using agreement to help drive recurring revenue growth in such areas as our flagship platform solution ISG GovernX. There will be many more such developments going forward as we look to build out our repeatable platform capabilities, Improve our efficiency and deliver more value to additional segments of the market. ISG is built on a culture of innovation and entrepreneurship. Speaker 200:08:17I'm confident our unrelenting drive to excel will carry us into the future and allow us to capture the growth opportunities ahead and meet the 2025 targets we are unveiling today. Now turning to our regions. The Americas had an excellent Q1 delivering $48,000,000 of revenue, up 17% versus the prior year on the strength of our digital cost optimization and market leading sourcing offerings. During Q1, we saw double digit growth in our consumer, banking, insurance, manufacturing, energy and Utilities Industry Verticals. And among our services, network, software advisory and GovernX were also all up double digits. Speaker 200:09:09Key client engagements during the Q1 included Bell Canada, CNO Financial Group, Owens and Minor and Centene. During the quarter, a global IT service provider renewed its subscription to ProBenchmark, Our market leading pricing research service for 3 years in a deal worth more than $1,000,000 We also won a multimillion dollar technology cost optimization engagement with a major managed healthcare provider covering many of our services, including operating model design, automation, benchmarking, network, Software and Cybersecurity. Our holistic approach, we expect to save this client more than $100,000,000 annually. In addition, we extended our ISG Automation Services and licenses for 3 years with a large Canadian telecommunications provider. Now turning to Europe. Speaker 200:10:15Our Q1 revenues of $3,000,000 were up 5% in constant currency over last year. For the quarter, Europe delivered double digit revenue growth in our media, Energy, Utilities and Manufacturing Industry Verticals and in our GovernX Network, Software Advisory and Research Businesses. Key client engagements in Europe in the Q1 included HIGREVE, Munich Re, Union IT Services and Beltheus Bank. During the quarter, the Ministry of of 1 European country awarded ISG $1,000,000 engagement to modernize their legacy application architecture. Scope includes IT Service Management and an identity and access management framework. Speaker 200:11:09We also won a $1,000,000 engagement with a major European banking company to redesign their technology delivery model and select new partners to support their future business and digital strategy. And we secured a significant with an oil and gas company in Germany to provide advisory and project management services on an SAP engagement. Now turning to Asia Pacific, our Q1 revenues of $7,000,000 were down about $200,000 in constant currency Or essentially flat with last year. We generated double digit growth in our network, software advisory and GovernX businesses. Key clients in the quarter included the Australian Department of Home Affairs and the Insurance Australia Group. Speaker 200:11:59In a very positive development, we very recently won a new $5,000,000 contract with longtime client, the Australian Taxation Office or ATO to revamp their provider ecosystem and lay the groundwork Now turning to our dividend. In our ongoing commitment to reward shareholders, I am delighted to announce Our Board of Directors has authorized a 12.5% increase in our quarterly dividend. The new quarterly rate, $0.045 per share or $0.18 per year will be reflected in our dividend payment on June 30 to shareholders of record as of June 7. This decision reflects our continuing long term progress and outlook for the business. Now let me turn to guidance. Speaker 200:12:54Even in an uncertain macro environment, demand for our services remains strong. Enterprises continue to invest in digital to maintain and build competitive advantage, and they are looking for ways to fund those investments by optimizing their technology and business environments. This is right in our sweet spot. ISG is the go to partner for helping clients create their digital futures and achieve operational excellence. We are optimistic and energized by our prospects. Speaker 200:13:30We are also mindful of the economic factors that could impact the timing of client decision making, including inflation, Possible recession, geopolitical and banking concerns and talent shortages. In consideration of all this, for 2nd quarter, we are targeting revenues of between $73,000,000 $75,000,000 and adjusted EBITDA between $10,000,000 $11,000,000 So with that, let me turn the call over to Bert, who will summarize our financial results. Bert? Speaker 300:14:05Thank you, Mike, and good morning, everyone. As Mike mentioned, ISG delivered all time record revenues and recorded 1st quarter adjusted EBITDA to start the year. Revenues for the Q1 were $78,500,000 up 8% on a reported basis and 12% in constant currency Compared with the Q1 of last year, currency negatively impacted reported revenues by $2,100,000 versus the prior year. In the Americas, reported revenues were $48,400,000 up 17% versus the prior year. In Europe, revenues were $23,100,000 down 2% on a reported basis and up 5% in constant currency. Speaker 300:14:50And in Asia Pacific, revenues were $7,000,000 down 8% reported and down 3% in constant currency. 1st quarter adjusted EBITDA was $11,000,000 up 3% from last year, resulting in an EBITDA margin of 14%, down 68 basis points compared with the prior year's Q1. In constant currency, adjusted EBITDA was up 8% compared with the prior year. 1st quarter operating income was $7,100,000 compared with $7,700,000 in the prior year. Net income for the quarter was 3.5 1st quarter adjusted net income was $6,000,000 or $0.12 per fully diluted share compared with adjusted net income of 6,400,000 or $0.12 per fully diluted share in the prior year's Q1. Speaker 300:15:52Headcount as of March 31, 23 was 1628, up 29 professionals or 1.8% from Q4. Consulting utilization for the Q1 was 71% impacted by our additional second half hiring last year and the time needed to onboard billable resources. Our balance sheet continues to have the strength and flexibility to support our business over the long term. For the quarter, net cash used from operations was $3,400,000 We ended the quarter with $23,700,000 of cash, down from $30,600,000 at year end. During the Q1, ISG paid dividends totaling $2,000,000 and repurchased $600,000 of shares. Speaker 300:16:41Our next quarterly dividend will be payable on June 30 to shareholders of record on June 7. Our debt balance is at $79,200,000 unchanged from the year end, and our debt to EBITDA ratio remains in great shape at 1.8x. Our average borrowing rate for the quarter was 6.3%, up from 2% last year, And we ended the quarter with 48,400,000 shares outstanding. Mike will now make some concluding remarks before we go to the Q and A. Back to you, Mike. Speaker 200:17:15Thank you, Bert. To summarize, ISG is off to a strong start in 2023, Delivering record revenues, record recurring revenues and record adjusted EBITDA in the Q1. Our portfolio of digital transformation, sourcing and cost optimization services, Research and SaaS platforms continues to be a winning combination for our clients. We have Tremendous growth opportunities ahead as we help our clients prepare for the next wave of the digital economy and become secure, intelligent, connected enterprises. Capitalizing on those opportunities, We plan to deliver an additional 200 basis points of margin improvement and reach $150,000,000 in recurring revenue by the end of 2025 under Phase 2 of ISG NEXT. Speaker 200:18:13And we continue to reward our shareholders, raising our dividend 12.5 percent to $0.18 per share annually. As always, We are focused on creating shareholder value for the long term and we are steadfast in our mission to deliver operational excellence to our clients. So thank you very much for calling in this morning. And now let me turn the session over to the operator for your questions. Operator00:18:43Absolutely. We will now take the first question from Joe Gomez with Noble Capital Markets. You may proceed. Speaker 200:19:10Hi, guys. Speaker 400:19:10This is Joshua Zolfo filling in. Joe Gomez is on another call. Speaker 500:19:15So I just wanted to say congrats Speaker 400:19:16on the quarter. Speaker 200:19:18Thank you. Speaker 400:19:20And I just wanted to To kind of get a first question in there, I saw that just with obviously these revenues increasing, I saw also direct costs and advisory Services kind of increasing as well, probably by like 200 basis points. Is that kind of a should we expect that to come down or do you think that might be just the new run rate we have? Speaker 300:19:44Yes, Josh, let me sort of cover that for you on the operating income. Our direct costs, as you mentioned, were up about $5,000,000 or 200 basis points. We had some small offset to that on the SG and A side. We were down about 60 basis And we have a little bit of higher amortization as well, but we typically have some higher Costs in Q1, they tend to be payroll tax related as they come back in. But our expectation and We also commented on the utilization rate, which is at 71% is really on the low end of our targeting. Speaker 300:20:22We have tended to be in the mid-70s and we our expectation is that we will bring that back into the mid-70s as the hiring that we did in the back half of last year, Which was more concentrated in Q4, come up to speed in terms of full potential for our billable resources. So we do expect that to improve into the second quarter and certainly into the back half. Speaker 400:20:48Okay, perfect. And so now that we're just kind of a quarter into the What are you guys noticing just in the trend regarding just in person events? And what is the Expectation do you guys have for just the rest of this year? Speaker 200:21:06Did you say in person events? Speaker 300:21:07Yes. Speaker 200:21:09Yes. Yes. So, no, we definitely have a full roster of events planned for the full year. We've held Speaker 300:21:21a few Speaker 200:21:21of those during the Q1 all in person and we have a series of events in each of the next three quarters That we are planning to do both here in the U. S. As well as in Europe. Speaker 400:21:37Okay, perfect. And then just lastly, and this is regarding The pipeline for acquisition, is it I know you guys kind of commented last year that you guys are more focused on recurring revenue prospects. How is that looking? And Just pricing wise, have the kind of the economic uncertainty kind of made things just look a little bit better pricing wise, a little bit worse? Just probably just a little color on that. Speaker 200:22:04So yes, on the M and A side, our focus continues to be our we call our string of pearls approach, Which is around bolt on acquisitions in areas like recurring revenue or increasing our Capabilities around digital or hot areas, and we continue to have dialogue with possible targets. In terms of the pricing, we have always been very disciplined in our approach to pricing. And I don't know that I would say that the Pricing is all that different at the moment. You still have owner operators who have a feel and a value that they expect. And yes, the environment is slightly softer, but if their business overall is holding up, then frankly, we have not seen a lot of Softness on the pricing side of it. Speaker 200:23:00Overall, you might have a tick down, but it's nothing of real significant materiality in my view. Speaker 400:23:09Okay, perfect. Yes, well congrats on the quarter again guys. Speaker 300:23:13Yes. Thank you, Sean. Operator00:23:16Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Mark Riddick with Sidoti and Company. You may proceed. Speaker 500:23:26Hey, good morning. Speaker 300:23:28Good morning. Speaker 100:23:29Mark, good morning. Speaker 500:23:31So I wanted to jump right into Couple of things. First of all, it was a pleasant surprise to see the Phase 2 announcing. You've kind of hinted on multiple pieces as to maybe How we're going to get there? But I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about, I mean, between the strength of the recurring revenue, as Well as, sort of the ramp up of those that were hired last year. Maybe you could talk a little bit about those margin expansion opportunities and sort of what gives you that level of confidence to announce Phase 2 at this point going ahead? Speaker 300:24:08Yes. Speaker 200:24:11So first, Mark, thanks for the question. Look, we have We had a very robust quarter on recurring revenue, as you saw, over $30,000,000 But we are we Continue to build out our research capabilities. We continue to build out our platform, which is anchored by GovernX, Which is our risk management platform that a lot of clients like because of supply chain, regulatory Issues, etcetera, ProBenchmark, which is our pricing platform, and our longer term contracts that we have with clients and especially in the public sector. And when we think about how that is moving along, we're using our AI platform that we acquired from agreement a year ago that is able to use artificial intelligence to read these contracts Has been also quite a boost for us relative to our GovernX business. And as we think about subscriptions, we think about solutions in these areas, We feel confident that we can reach $150,000,000 just as we had said back in 2020, we would get to 100,000,000 Maybe we don't know the exact complete path, but we have a way forward and we see these businesses continuing to excel And that's why we're confident along that line and that's why we decided to come out today and let you know that that's where we're headed. Speaker 500:25:54Great. And then I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about you made mention in your prepared remarks as far as New accounts and I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about that because that certainly obviously is encouraging and it sounds as though These new accounts are coming on for both offensive and defensive reasons. And maybe I could talk a little bit about How those are these sort of driven by cost optimization more than growth? And maybe you can talk a little bit about the sales cycle as well. Is it along the lines of the traditional sales cycle? Speaker 500:26:30Or are you getting a sense that it's a little accelerated because of the macroeconomic environment? Speaker 200:26:36Yes, good question. So let me parse it slightly. First, in terms of what are we seeing and it varies a bit by industry segment. So if we think about, we kind of ourselves, we put a kind of a 4 box together and we think about Companies right now that are looking to stabilize and we see a lot of that around specialty retailers, media, airlines, Hi tech firms. If you think about who's wanting to kind of seize the moment because they can, We see companies like pharma, medical devices, utilities, manufacturing that are increasing And moving at maybe a faster pace and are not in a stabilization mode. Speaker 200:27:27So as a result, kind of the Forks in the road, one is cost optimization and that tends to be those that really need to stabilize. And you have on the other side of it, you have let me continue to pursue with some energy around transformation. And so it varies by industry segment, but to the speed point that you asked, cost optimization is moving fast. So we might get a meeting with CIO today who wants to take out $200,000,000 of cost and how fast can that be done and can you start on Monday? So that's Kind of a speed on optimization. Speaker 200:28:15On transformation on the other side, what a lot of them are doing that's a little bit Slower, so the pace is still moving, but maybe at a slower pace than the optimization engagements are moving. So having both of those in our toolkit have been quite helpful to us and that is kind of what has driven The significant growth for us as you saw in the Q1. I hope that answers your question. Speaker 500:28:44Industry No, it definitely does. Yes. Yes. No, that's very, very helpful. Thank you. Speaker 500:28:51And I guess the last one from me. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about we had the headcount additions last year that have ramped up. Do you get the sense that you'll need to add more folks to take advantage of these new wins and new opportunities that you're seeing? And if so, can you sort of maybe give an update as to maybe the availability of talent that you see out there? Thanks. Speaker 200:29:16Yes, the burst I think that we did during the back half of the year we think will carry us through 2023. The exceptions to that will be some surgical hires in specialty areas like digital And then there's a few instances that we may do that might get us up some chunks of employees if we execute against it, which is we have some clients, who are asking to take advantage of Our new TAS service, which you'll recall is training as a service, we have a very large top twenty Fortune Company, who is negotiating with us basically to kind of take over their training organization and put it into our TAS service. And if you do something like that, you might pick up You know, 10, 15, 25 people, because we would probably transfer those out of the enterprise and take Some of them, we would not need all of them with a service like that. So that's the only other, I would call it, kind of exception, Mark, that we might see during the course of the year because we have a few clients that like our TAS concept And are looking to maybe an alternative way to go forward in their enterprise. Speaker 200:30:40So that's how we see the headcount. On talent availability, I will say that We because of our business model and the way we do our mix with cash and stock, etcetera, We are very attractive and that was why we were able to add since Q1 last year, I think it's around 225 plus people. We are able to access the talent that we need, and we think it's available if we need it. Speaker 500:31:11Sounds good. Thank you very much. Speaker 200:31:14Thanks, Mark. Operator00:31:18Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Michael Matheson with Singular Research. You may proceed. Speaker 600:31:28Good morning, gentlemen. Speaker 200:31:30Good morning. Speaker 600:31:33Congratulations. Great numbers across the board. I have a couple of questions. Your year over year comparisons have been hurt for a long time due to currency headwinds. When you look across your geographic mix, should we be lifting our long term revenue forecast with the dollar stabilizing a bit or possibly trending down? Speaker 300:31:58Yes. Thanks, Michael. Thanks for the question. 1st quarter certainly was a downshift from the We had over $3,000,000 of impact in Q4 and down to about $2,000,000 in Q1. To your point, we see the 2nd quarter being not Really heavily impacted on the downside. Speaker 300:32:22And so while we may have some negative impact with the euro up around 110 And the pound around $125,000,000 it's starting to approach numbers that we saw last year. And so we think the 2nd quarter will be somewhat benign. We could see some tailwind, if you want to describe it that way, in the back half if the trend continues. And Again, that assumes that the Fed will be finished around midyear and that the European Bank still has a little ways to go because they have a bit more Energy inflation than we do, but we're not projecting that right now to be honest. We're thinking it sort of levels out in Q2 and stays reasonably flat To year end, we don't think there's going to be a big impact one way or another in the back half, but we certainly don't see The headwind that we're seeing in the Q1 continue. Speaker 600:33:15Great. Very helpful. Thank you. Last one for me. In most quarters, ISG's assets generate a lot of operating cash flows. Speaker 600:33:25This quarter was an exception, negative 3,400,000 Would you comment on what drove the swing? Speaker 300:33:32Yes, sure. Well, as you might have noted, we did have slightly lower net income In the quarter, and what drove it really was working capital requirements. With the increase in the Q1 sales reaching a new high, and that also It was a little bit compounded by we had a very strong finish to the quarter in March. And so our higher receivables, If you look at them quarter on quarter, we're up about $3,400,000 and we also had slightly higher payables. And some of that comes from additional payroll That come into the Q1 of the year. Speaker 300:34:14So those sort of level out to the year. I would mention that our receivables are in Very good shape. We're sort of approaching almost 90% in terms of our current and 1 to 30s overdue. So no concerns on collectability. And we haven't had to put up any reserves that are material in any way. Speaker 300:34:36So it really was a working capital Question and as I mentioned, we also did have slightly lower net income. No tax implication. It was about even year on year. Speaker 600:34:47Okay, great. Very helpful explanation. Thanks and congratulations again on the floor. Speaker 300:34:53Thank you. Thanks, Michael. Operator00:34:56Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Vincent Colicchio with Barrington Research. You may proceed. Speaker 700:35:06Yes. Nice quarter, Mike. I have a couple of questions. So is there anything systematic in terms of why the Americas was so relatively strong this quarter? And Perhaps Europe and APAC are seeing slower sales cycles or anything like that or maybe it was a big deal in the Americas market. Speaker 700:35:28And Should we continue to see the Americas outperform in the balance of the year? Speaker 200:35:34Yes. So on the Americas, Vince, thanks For the comments, on the Americas, there was no outlier in terms of big deal or anything in the But what the environment is in the U. S, slightly different, I think elsewhere is the digital Transformation work continues at some pace. That coupled with Optimization efforts somewhat to fund the digital transformation efforts in the U. S. Speaker 200:36:09We've got both of those categories, if you will, really humming on all cylinders. So the optimization is driving cost takeout, which is then being moved over to the digital side in the U. S. In Europe, slightly different. We're seeing cost optimization, but they are using cost optimization in many instances to take to the bottom line As the markets over in Europe companies are experiencing, I would say, a little more softness, a little more macro Than the U. Speaker 200:36:42S. Environment is. So we see the heavier demand on kind of the optimization, sourcing optimization, etcetera. And digital transformation continues, but I would say it's at a bit of a slower pace in Europe. On Asia Pacific, I wouldn't read anything into it. Speaker 200:37:00That has some ups and downs. They had a very strong comps in the 1st two quarters of this year. We expect Asia Pacific to perform on a full year basis as they always have. So I wouldn't read anything into Asia Pacific. The only area that we continue to keep an eye on, of course, is I think is in Europe, where their macro environment, U. Speaker 200:37:21K. In particular, It's a little tougher than it is, I think, elsewhere in the world. Speaker 700:37:28And if you look at your sales pipelines for the areas that you mentioned Demand sweet spots are digital transformation, digital sourcing, cost optimization. Does that give you confidence that we could see a healthy second half versus the prior year? Speaker 200:37:47Yes. I mean, I think We are confident in our full year. Of course, they always the health warning I always give is we don't know what the macro environment has Ahead of us, so we just use that as a bit of a caution. But if that is somewhat neutral and nothing goes off The path too far, then we feel very good about the demand environment and our role to help execute against it for the full year. Speaker 700:38:18And on your recurring revenue objective of 150,000,000 I assume a portion of that is going to be acquisitions. How fast do you think that the recurring revenue can grow organically The next 2 Speaker 200:38:36years. Yes. So that $150,000,000 is organic. If we were able to do any inorganic, then that would be Additive to that Vince, but we think on an organic basis that we can reach around that number in the timeframe we described. So We're quite confident in how we are building that business. Speaker 700:38:59Well, that's a fairly impressive number. So could you give a little detail on Which areas you think are be the most important growth drivers? Speaker 200:39:09Yes, I mean, I think it's 3. Number 1 Our research business continues to thrive. So that's our proprietary research. We have Insights that no one else can have because we have such a large market share in the sourcing environment. We're number 1 there by a wide degree And that gives us lots of real live engagement data. Speaker 200:39:34That is a powerful force in the market. So we continue to believe that research will outperform the overall firm in terms of growth. Our GovernX business, which is our risk management, supplier management platform that large enterprises use to help manage their large technology contracts With the likes of IBM or AT and T and others, we continue to believe that will also Thrive and outgrow our overall firm and using our agreement technology, which is the AI Smart contract technology that we acquired a year ago has been a big boom for that business and we That to continue over the next few years. Thirdly is our larger multi year contracts in areas of the public Sector, we continue to feel that our digital environment to help with a Speaker 500:40:34lot of legacy Speaker 200:40:37Technology and government, whether that's in the state or local in the U. S. Or whether that's in major governments in the UK, Italy, Germany Or Australia, where we have our government federal government type work, we continue to see that as Legacy technology gets older than the workforce in many of these governments are aging, Then the modernization becomes more pronounced and we feel we're pretty well positioned there. So when we add all of those elements together, We feel quite strong about our recurring revenue capabilities. Speaker 700:41:17Thank you. And Bert, one quick one for you. I don't want to leave you out. What was the contribution of acquisitions in the quarter? Speaker 300:41:27Acquisitions was not quite about 1,500,000 Thank you. Speaker 200:41:37Thanks, Vince. Speaker 300:41:39You're welcome. Operator00:41:41Thank you. The final question comes from the line of Dave Storms with Stonegate Capital Markets. You may proceed. Speaker 300:41:51Good morning. Good morning. Speaker 800:41:55Just wondering if you could touch on Your revenue came in above guidance as you mentioned. Congrats on that. Just wondering if you could touch on what the main drivers of that outperformance was? Was Timing thing, was there something systematic, any guidance, anything else you can give us there would be helpful. Speaker 200:42:12Thanks, David. Look, I think the demand environment around our portfolio Was higher than we would even have expected. And as I mentioned earlier, there's kind of 2 forks The road that companies are taking at the moment. 1 is around deep optimization of cost and the other is to continue Or accelerate their digital transformation journey, both of which are our sweet spots. And on the cost optimization, because it is a bit of a faster decisioning than the other. Speaker 200:42:53And when cost optimization increases, which it has during the Q1, then decisions are made faster and you can start sooner. And therefore, the revenue generates maybe earlier than a normal sales cycle goes, because the need to take the cost out is more immediate Then a more transformation journey, which takes some time. So those would be probably the key drivers that we would see during the 1st quarter that kind of drove the outperformance. Speaker 800:43:27Very helpful. Thank you. And then lastly, could you just talk a little more about your current leverage levels? You have a lot of headwind before hitting your covenants. Just This is how you're thinking about either using or not using that liquidity. Speaker 300:43:43Yes. Thanks for the question, David. As you know, in the first Quarter, we had announced the renewal of our credit agreement, right? In short, we're on full revolver now. We've been able to maintain A trailing EBITDA net debt ratio that's So 2% or 2x, about 1.8%. Speaker 300:44:06So we're very pleased with that. We could consider it under leverage, if you will. I think it gives us Optionality with respect to acquisitions, which we don't include in any of our forecasts. We do have additional flexibility now under the previous credit agreement. We had Mandatory principal payments of a little over $1,000,000 per quarter, and those have gone away. Speaker 300:44:35I don't want to insinuate that we wouldn't continue to pay down debt as cash flow permits. But right now, We feel that we have that optionality. We like that. We continue to look in the marketplace for opportunities to grow inorganically. And we're not with the for the right strategic acquisition, we're fine with being at 2.5 plus, If that makes perfect sense for the firm in terms of growth and profit generation. Speaker 300:45:05So we're really happy with our balance sheet leverage, But we think that gives us more options in the future, and that's a good thing for us and for the shareholders. Operator00:45:25Thank you. There are no additional questions waiting at this time. So I would now like to pass the conference back to the management team for any additional or closing remarks. Speaker 200:45:35Well, let me close by saying thank you to all our professionals Worldwide for their dedication to our clients and for working together as a global team to achieve our record first quarter results. Our people have a passion for delivering the best advice and support to our clients as they continue their digital journeys and I could not be prouder of them. And thanks to Operator00:46:13That concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.Read morePowered by