Palantir Technologies Q1 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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May 8, 2023

There are 6 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good afternoon. I'm Anna Saro from Palantir's finance team, and I'd like to welcome you to our Q1 2023 earnings call. We'll be discussing the results announced in our press release issued after the market close and posted on our investor relations website. During the call, we will make statements regarding our business that may be considered forward looking within applicable securities laws, including statements regarding our Q2 fiscal 2023 results, management's expectations for our future financial and operational performance and other statements regarding our plans, prospects and expectations. These statements are not promises or guarantees and are subject to risks and uncertainties, which could cause them to differ materially from actual results.

Operator

Information concerning those risks is available in our earnings press release, distributed after the market closed today and in our SEC filings. We undertake no obligation to update forward looking statements except as required by law. Further, during the course of today's call, we will refer to certain adjusted financial measures. These non GAAP financial measures should be considered in addition to, not as a substitute for or in isolation from GAAP measures. Additional information about these non GAAP measures, including reconciliation of non GAAP to comparable GAAP measures, is included in our press release and investor presentation provided today.

Operator

Our press release, investor presentation and SEC filings are available on our Investor Relations website at investors. Palantir.com. Over the course of the call, we will refer to various growth rates when discussing our business. These rates reflect year over year comparisons unless otherwise stated. Joining me on today's call are Alex Karp, Chief Executive Officer Shyam Sankar, Chief Technology Officer Dave Glaser, Chief Financial Officer and Ryan Taylor, Chief Revenue Officer and Chief Legal Officer.

Operator

I'll now turn it over to Alex for opening remarks.

Speaker 1

On any normal earnings call where we have just been profitable and where we're going to be profitable for Next couple of quarters, which opens up the possibility beyond the S and P, where the U. S. Market grew by, 28% and where we made $187,000,000 in free cash flow. That would be the thing that was the most exciting. But in fact, what's most exciting about Palantir is we have our ability To launch products that are literally in the only products on the market and that will in fact change your life And we'll determine who succeeds and who fails across enterprise, both government and commercial.

Speaker 1

The the large language model revolution Is one that will raise ships and sink ships. Of course, the profitability is important. Of course, the fact that we make free cash flow is important, But it's not nearly as exciting as our ability to invest our resources and our founder led energy in Using our things we have built to supply enterprises with an otherwise not available and in crazy high demand product. This is just one of the most exciting times to be at Palantir because you have the resources of a large profitable Enterprise company, so there is an issue with non profitable tech. If you're powering the most important enterprises in the world, they want to know, Can you provide the resources, the product we need tomorrow purely on a financial basis?

Speaker 1

But more importantly to us and to them long term is can you help us disrupt our adversaries? Can you just help us disrupt our competitors? Ken, for me personally, Ken, you have a product that will help the West win, especially our government, but also Our commercial clients, so that we in fact are stronger than our adversaries. And in the last 20 years, there's never been a development like this. You have A technology that will allow you to out produce, change the margin of your company, understand your business, react on the battlefield quicker, predict things on the battlefield in a way, Collapse your enterprise so that the top and the bottom actually work together, preempt attacks, create software That is, so obviously dominant that adversaries quiver and, scurry away instead of attacking us or our or our allies.

Speaker 1

And there's one company in the world that is positioned. The the issue of how do you have security, A data model or knowledge and wisdom that's proprietary interact with an external Large language model or with, generative AI is not new to Palantir, and that's why we're able to launch our platform, AIP, so quickly. The demand for of which is nothing I've ever seen in 20 years of being involved in Palantir. And the reason the demand is high is people suspect That this will if you wield these technologies correctly, safely and securely, meaning extract the value in the context of Your own enterprise, whether that's sensitive or non sensitive or regulated or moderately regulated, You have a weapon that will allow you to win, that will scare your competitors and your adversaries. And we are in the unique position to supply that platform, And we have the resources both because of our profitability, our $2,900,000,000 in the bank, our, lack of debt, And quite frankly, our entrepreneurial founder led spirit at this company.

Speaker 1

Welcome to our Earnings Day. Thank you.

Speaker 2

As Alex highlighted, our company once again achieved GAAP profitability last quarter, Including GAAP operating income for the first time. This marks another milestone in our company's sustained growth, ensuring that we will continue delivering results and impact For our partners for years to come while also investing deeply in the transformational AI opportunities before us. We have been taking steps across the company in recent months to refocus our efforts and optimize on the parts of our business that will drive even further growth Alongside sustained profitability. In Q1 2023, we generated 525,000,000 in revenue. Due to the seasonality of our business, Q1 tends to be our slowest quarter.

Speaker 2

But despite that headwind and the difficult macroeconomic environment that the technology continues to face. Our commercial business generated 236,000,000 of revenue last quarter and achieved 176,000,000 in TCV, A 70% year over year TCV increase. These strong results were driven primarily by the reacceleration of our US commercial business, Which surpassed the 100,000,000 revenue threshold for the first time with 26% year over year growth. We continue to see robust pilot starts and promising conversions, and we're also beginning to see the realization of our expansion strategy, Meaning, we're beginning to see meaningful growth and upsell opportunities with our newer customer base. Some notable examples include the expansion of our work with Hertz, Who's using foundry to more efficiently manage and operate its fleet of nearly 500,000 vehicles and Jacobs Engineering, Who is doubling down on our partnership to reduce costs and improve performance across plans.

Speaker 2

We also signed significant expansion agreements with The largest health system in the country for continued acceleration of our hospital operations efforts and with one of the world's largest paper and packaging companies. Our US commercial customer base, which stood at 155 at the end of q one twenty twenty three, a sevenfold increase in customer count over just 2 years, Presents an immense opportunity for continued expansion. While aspects of our international commercial business have been challenging in today's climate, We continue to focus on delivering transformational results to long term customers. For example, BP, Our customer of over a decade recently shared that Foundry helped them reduce production costs by approximately 60% from $14 a barrel To less than $6 a barrel. We're also investing for growth in targeted industries and geographies, such as Korea, Where I recently met with customers and saw our momentum there firsthand.

Speaker 2

This includes several strong pilot starts and the expansion of our work with Korea Shipbuilding and Offshore Engineering, Focused on using Foundry to enhance safety and operational efficiency. Our government business generated $289,000,000 in revenue, Driven in large part by our US government business, which grew 22% year over year. With strong conviction in our work on the ground and the critical missions we're delivering against, We continue to focus on building our US government business for the long term, while acknowledging timing uncertainty in the short term. We're investing in delivering digital deterrence and AI driven efforts around the world from the Middle Eastern, Pacific and European theaters. And with pressing global events, we continue to lean into our support for the U.

Speaker 2

S. And its allies across Eastern Europe. More broadly, as we look at opportunities across our company, we are strongly investing in AI efforts with a focus on delivering the foundational systems and software Sure. That will enable enterprises to leverage the power of the latest large language models and other machine learning technologies. We're already seeing unprecedented demand for AIP, and we are reorganizing our efforts aggressively to capitalize on the interest.

Speaker 2

We anticipate that these technologies will be transformational both for ourselves and for our customers, and we are positioned to meet the moment. I'll now turn it over to Shyam.

Speaker 3

Thanks, Ryan. This past February, overlapping with our last earnings call, I had the opportunity to visit Ukraine and witness the incredible speed with which the Ukrainian forces were able to employ AI on the battlefield. It was clear That the future has already arrived, and that future requires us broadly to rewrite road maps. It changes everything to some degree and some things completely. We all can either choose to join the disruptors driving this change, or we can be disrupted.

Speaker 3

From diffusion to large language models, the Accelerating pace of AI development is awe inspiring and exhilarating, but there are many challenges customers will encounter as they attempt to leverage this technology operationally at any scale. From managing the mismatch between the ever growing big data scale of the enterprise and the bottlenecks and choke points of smaller context windows of LLMs To product design challenges of constructively embedding these models and workflows and safety and trust challenges in governing the AI in an operational and decision making context. We are well ahead of the curve because we've built the frameworks, the infrastructure, and the software needed. We have already had to solve so many of the hard Including the development of deep expertise with the necessary intermediary scale data challenges required to effectively span the gap From big data to small LLM context windows. And there will be many surprises in who ultimately comes up as the winners and losers of all of this disruption.

Speaker 3

The AI models themselves within months have gone from cutting edge to quickly being commoditized. Developing GPT 2 and GPT 3 class models at this point, Table stakes. Anyone can build them in a few days with a few $100 As the memo purportedly leaked from Google titled, we have no moat and neither does OpenAI makes It's clear. Things that big tech companies have considered major open areas of development have actually been solved by a handful of people in the open source community. While some of the proprietary models hold a slight quality edge, the lead is vanishing quickly.

Speaker 3

The speed of iteration on these models, Biasing to a Goldilocks size of power iteration pace ratio will dominate. We believe larger, Enduring value is more likely to emerge from the application and workflow layer by the players who know how to navigate the challenges of data scale mismatch that LLMs present, And we are uniquely positioned to continue to be a leader here. And because that future is already here, we must act with speed and conviction. Customers must completely rethink what they are building and how they build it. We are moving fast to ensure existing customers can deploy AIP beside gothman foundry to transform their operations with intelligent contextual decision making and sophisticated automation and coordination From the battlefield to the boardroom.

Speaker 3

AIP enables customers to operate not only Foundry and Gotham, but also their businesses from a greater strategic vantage point. We provide powerful interfaces to rapidly integrate your data, build your ontology, forge AI driven applications and workflows, And build agents to orchestrate and automate enterprise actions, all in an environment with guardrails, safe handoff functions, and military grade security. AIP not only knows how to speak to you, but more importantly, it knows how to speak to Gaia, MetaConstellation, every foundry service, your ontology, and your enterprise. At a major insurance company, we deployed a prerelease version of AIP and in a few days built a collaborative AI agent to automate claims processing. The chief data officer told us that AIP was years ahead of anything they had seen.

Speaker 3

The pace of innovation around AI and LLMs presents a unique opportunity For leveraging our Apollo and FedStart infrastructure. There is tremendous demand for these models in FedRAMP, IL5, and IL6. Via our FedStart offering, we can bring these startups to US government markets in weeks. In q1, we also closed our first $1,000,000 deal for Apollo with a major tech company. Our Foundry Ontology SDK has met the market to a great reception.

Speaker 3

These SDKs make it easy for customers to build new Enterprise applications and integrate Ontology into their existing ones. We plan to support AIP directly from these SDKs, extending the AI Application forge deep into your enterprise ecosystem. The Gotham ecosystem continues to expand with enhanced capabilities across the AI enabled kill chain. Our most recent developments include substantial new capabilities called Maverick in fires and the broader air battle management process. This capability enables efficient translation of approved targets to weapon systems.

Speaker 3

On a final note, we will be sharing our insights on the latest cutting edge AI, Who will be the victors and the vanquished, and of course, showing the latest across AIP and foundry, as well as hearing from our customers on how our products are powering their transformations at our June 1 customer event in Palo Alto. With that, I'll turn it over to Dave.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Shyam. The Q1 of 2023 was a record setting quarter for us. We achieved our 2nd consecutive quarter of GAAP profitability and also achieved GAAP operating income for the first time. This accomplishment was a result of strong top line growth driven by the reacceleration of our U. S.

Speaker 4

Commercial business, coupled with continued disciplined spend management. These achievements demonstrate our commitment to driving profitable growth, and we continue to expect 2023 to be our 1st full year of GAAP profitability. On the back of these exceptional results and this trajectory, we now expect to be GAAP profitable in each quarter this year. Turning to our global top line results. We generated $525,000,000 in revenue in the Q1 of 2023, up 18% year over year, dollars 20,000,000 ahead of the midpoint of our prior guidance.

Speaker 4

Our U. S. Business generated $337,000,000 in total revenue in the Q1, up 23% year over year and 12% sequentially, Demonstrating our continued momentum in the U. S. Revenue from our largest customers continues to expand.

Speaker 4

1st quarter trailing 12 month revenue per customer from our top 20 customers increased 14% year over year to 51,000,000 per customer. New customer acquisition also remained strong As we saw customer count grow 41% year over year and 7% sequentially. Now moving to our Commercial segment. In the Q1 of 2023, commercial revenue grew 15% year over year and 10% sequentially to 236,000,000 Our Q1 U. S.

Speaker 4

Commercial revenue grew 26% year over year and 39% sequentially to 107,000,000 Excluding revenue from strategic commercial contracts, U. S. Commercial revenue grew 46% year over year and 24% sequentially. In addition to the strength of our U. S.

Speaker 4

Commercial revenue growth, our U. S. Commercial customer count grew 50% year over year and 8% sequentially, Marking the 9th consecutive quarter of sequential growth. Commercial revenue from our strategic commercial contracts surpassed 1st quarter expectations at 33,000,000 Due to the unanticipated acceleration of revenue from certain of these contracts, we expect 2nd quarter revenue from these customers to be between $17,000,000 $19,000,000 And to drop off significantly in the 3rd Q4. Our expectations of full year revenue from these customers remains unchanged At approximately 3% of total full year revenue.

Speaker 4

In the Q1, our international commercial business grew 8% year over year and declined 7% sequentially. The results were impacted in part due to a tough comparison to the prior quarter as a result of the timing of revenue recognition on certain contracts in the 4th quarter And the seasonal headwinds we often see in the Q1 with some of our largest international enterprise customers. Turning to our government segment. 1st quarter government revenue grew 20% year over year and declined 1% sequentially to 289,000,000 1st quarter U. S.

Speaker 4

Government revenue grew 22% year over year and 2% sequentially to 230,000,000 While we have a strong pipeline of opportunities in our U. S. Government business, we acknowledge that there are uncertainties associated with the timing of these contract expansions and renewals. Nonetheless, we remain confident in the growth of our U. S.

Speaker 4

Government business. 1st quarter international government revenue grew 11% year over year And declined 13% sequentially to $59,000,000 The sequential decline was driven by non recurring revenue catch up that we saw in the 4th quarter As well as some challenges with the timing of contract awards in the Q1. Turning to bookings, TCV booked in the Q1 was 397,000,000 Up 60% year over year. U. S.

Speaker 4

Commercial TCV grew 170% year over year to 124,000,000 Again demonstrating the strength of our U. S. Commercial business. We ended the Q1 with $3,400,000,000 in total remaining deal value And $936,000,000 in remaining performance obligations. As a reminder, RPO is primarily comprised of our commercial business As it does not take into account contracts with an initial term of less than 12 months and contractual obligations that fall beyond termination for convenience clauses, both of which are common in most of our government business.

Speaker 4

Both remaining deal value and remaining performance obligations have continued to face headwinds from the macroeconomic impact On customers from the strategic investment program. As a result, the total remaining deal value and the total value of our commercial contracts from our strategic investment program Decreased by $102,000,000 since last quarter as we continue to review and assess the financial condition of these businesses. Turning to margin and expense. Adjusted gross margin, which excludes stock based compensation expense, was 81% for the quarter. 1st quarter adjusted income from operations, which excludes stock based compensation expense, was $125,000,000 representing an adjusted operating margin of 24%, 600 basis points ahead of our prior guidance and marking the 3rd consecutive quarter of expanding adjusted operating margins.

Speaker 4

These results demonstrate our ability to drive strong revenue growth while managing costs effectively with Q1 adjusted expense up only 1% sequentially to $400,000,000 We continue to manage expense growth by optimizing operations and G and A, capturing cloud efficiencies and focusing our headcount investments in key strategic areas. We remain committed to sustained GAAP profitability, while at the same time increasing investment in both the U. S. To capture the momentum we are seeing And in the development of advanced software capabilities, particularly our AI driven offerings. We believe that artificial intelligence, including large language models, We'll prove transformational for our business and for enterprises in the government and commercial context.

Speaker 4

To that end, we are rebalancing our efforts And investments to capitalize on these developments. In the Q1, we generated income from operations of $4,000,000 our first ever quarter of GAAP operating income. This reflects our laser focus on profitable growth and continued management of our stock based compensation. While we expect to see stock based compensation expense trend up Through the remainder of the year, we remain focused on GAAP net income and operating profitability. Turning to net income.

Speaker 4

1st quarter GAAP net income was $17,000,000 our 2nd consecutive quarter of GAAP profitability. This was a result of our strong GAAP operating income As well as interest income from our balance sheet and the narrowing of losses from investments. 1st quarter adjusted earnings per share was $0.05 And GAAP earnings per share was 0.01 dollars our 2nd consecutive quarter of positive GAAP EPS. We are extremely proud We're able to continue to deliver GAAP profitability on a consistent basis. Additionally, our combined revenue growth and adjusted operating margin Was 42% in the Q1.

Speaker 4

We will continue to strive to achieve the Rule of 40 throughout 2023 beyond. Turning to our strong cash flow in the Q1, we generated $189,000,000 $187,000,000 in adjusted free cash flow and cash from operations, respectively, Each representing a margin of 36%. We ended the quarter with $2,900,000,000 in cash, cash equivalents, and short term US Treasury bills. We retain access to additional liquidity of up to $950,000,000 through our $500,000,000 revolving credit facility and $450,000,000 delayed draw term loan facility, Both of which remain entirely undrawn. Now turning to our outlook.

Speaker 4

For Q2 2023, we expect revenue of between 528 And $532,000,000 adjusted income from operations of between $118,000,000 $122,000,000 and GAAP net income. For full year 2023, we are raising our revenue guidance to between $2,185,000,000 $2,235,000,000 We are raising our adjusted income from operations guidance to between $506,000,000 $556,000,000 and we now expect GAAP net income in each quarter of this year. With that, I'll turn it over to Anna to start the Q and A.

Operator

Thanks, Dave. We'll begin with a few questions from our shareholders before we open up the call. We received a lot of questions on AI and AIP. Alex, would you like to share some thoughts?

Speaker 1

Well, thank you for being here. I've been at the Palantir building since the beginning for 20 years. Our first product was PG, which changed the course of history, especially in Europe, by preventing terror attacks in a constitutional order. And That product basically is the only product for what for that use case in the world. And then we built a number of other products, products on the battlefield For special operators, foundry, which needs no introduction.

Speaker 1

And in the process of building these products, We were always thinking about human mind, human computer symbiotic relationships and then later, algorithmic relationships to data, Especially what's called generative AI. And so we had built these precursor technologies over the since inception And also biases. So how would you interact with an algorithm where you expose only the part of the enterprise that you Want to expose, need to expose, how would you do a hand off when you're doing deciding to make a lethal decision? Who makes the lethal decision? What data sources are used?

Speaker 1

How do you map the knowledge and wisdom of your enterprise onto the external database? And then with the rise of Large language models, how do you impose that on the large language model? How do you take what's useful from the From AI, whether it's especially in a large language model context without hallucinating your way into a disaster, How do you expose sensitive parts of your enterprise that need to be exposed while protecting parts of your enterprise that Should never be exposed, not just in the classified environment, but if you're working in a hospital context, not exposing healthcare, Personal healthcare data to a broader LLM run by a third party. How do you do this in a context where some people are technical and non technical? How do you expand our offering, and this is one of the big advantages of the current revolution to people who have very technical needs but don't know how to wield them.

Speaker 1

And in general, our business has been a business driven by moral imperatives. 1 of my I don't want to make this overly philosophical, Although, in some ways, I'd prefer it. But when you look at the history of Silicon Valley over the last 20 years, there's, in a weird way, a tacit alliance between The way in which our, maybe, adversaries think of the world and the way in which many people in Silicon Valley have thought about it, essentially, We will use data to serve our interests, not inherently the interests of the people, meaning it, in our context, should be monetized. And We have always believed in the moral imperative where the human and our governments would define the context in which Data and algorithmic and now, large language models implicitly would, be controlled. And so That looked like a weird philosophical bias, but in fact, that philosophical bias allowed us to develop branching, allowed us to develop ways of doing handoff technologies.

Speaker 1

It allows us to think broadly about what it means to be in lethal situations and behave ethically. It now positioned us to be able to launch Ways in which to deal with large language models that are, is a once in a generational opportunity with with With technologies that are otherwise not available by other people. Also, even our bias of understanding, as Sean was saying in his introduction, that It is the person that wields the technology that makes it valuable, that makes it moral, not the technology itself. And these biases have just put us very, very far ahead of the market, and especially we're seeing this reception to this in In the United States, which makes me obviously particularly, happy. And so we're going to be very involved In rolling us out in a kind of pretty disciplined way, we see it as unprecedented once in a generation opportunity.

Speaker 1

We have odd resources in terms of IP software platforms that are uniquely suited for this. We have an ability to run hard both because we are entrepreneurial. Many people in this space, in fact, don't really build products, they buy products. It's just too late To buy a product to catch up with what has to be done now and where the winners will really accelerate. So we're we feel like we're in a Obviously, our profitability is really important to us, particularly because as we begin to power more and more of the most important institutions in the world, It basically takes off the table the legitimate question, well, if your technology is so powerful, why can't you make any money?

Speaker 1

So We've I believe it's a unique time for us, a unique place for us, and we're very, very busily at work.

Operator

Thanks, Alex. We also received a few questions on GAAP profitability. Vishal and Rick ask, do you still expect to be GAAP profitable this year?

Speaker 4

Vishal, Rick, thanks for the question. In short, absolutely, we do. And really on the strength of Q1, we now note We expect to be profitable in each quarter of this year, not just for the full year, which is obviously a big milestone for us. And to recap, Q1, It was our 2nd consecutive quarter of GAAP profitability. We did $17,000,000 of net income.

Speaker 4

It's our first ever GAAP operating income profitable quarter. We did $4,000,000 of operating income. It's our strongest cash flow quarter ever, dollars 189,000,000 Free cash flow. And we did this all with the U. S.

Speaker 4

Commercial business growing 39% sequentially. And so profitability, It will remain core to our growth, and that's as we mobilize our business and our resources around the AI opportunities that are in front of us.

Operator

Thanks, Dave. We received questions about expanding our customer base and the growth and momentum of our commercial business. Ryan, do you want to share some thoughts on the commercial business for 2023?

Speaker 2

Yes, absolutely. So in our results, you see the reacceleration of our U. S. Commercial business, 26% year over year growth U. S.

Speaker 2

Commercial, as Dave said, 39% sequential. Our customer count, which is now at 155 customers in our U. S. Commercial business, grew 50% year over year and the TCV closed in Q3 Business grew 50% year over year and the TCV closed in Q1 grew 170% year over year. That's on the back of pilot conversions, New pilots starting and expansions at customers as I highlighted earlier such as Hertz, Jacobs Engineering, the largest health System in the country and one of the largest paper and packaging companies in the world, among other examples.

Speaker 2

We expect that momentum to carry forward. And as the U. S. Commercial continues to become a larger and larger part of our overall business that will obviously have larger and larger impacts on our overall results and momentum as well. On top of that, we've highlighted AI presented an opportunity that is creating unprecedented demand for us.

Speaker 2

We can deliver against it in ways that no one else can And we're running at that full speed and we expect that momentum to continue in 2023 beyond.

Operator

Thanks, Ryan. Our next question is from Michael who asks, With potential S and P 500 inclusion, how does that correlate with the company's prospects on profitability moving forward?

Speaker 1

I'm sure there's a prepared answer here, but I believe or I know that we are outsiders, And this outsider status is one of the main reasons we built all these products because we never ever thought anyone would buy our products Except for that they were disruptive and unique. And that's in many if you look at the products we built, but also And somehow our uncanny preparedness for this moment, it's because we approach this as we have to succeed under adverse conditions. And My interest in profitability is for obvious reasons, but it's also, I think, we'll just be in a much stronger position as we it becomes clear that we are We qualify for participation in S and P, and a lot of people look at us fresh, anew and we'll begin to look closer at our strengths. But any case, this is the outsider strategy is we are going to be profitable. We're going to within the context of being profitable, We are going to take all resources and disrupt, especially in the U.

Speaker 1

S. Of A, and we are going to use the profitability to scale our business And to scale the attractiveness of our business to new investors.

Operator

Thanks, Alex. Our next question is from Brent with Jefferies. Brent, please turn on your camera and then you'll receive a prompt to unmute your line.

Speaker 5

Good afternoon. There were a lot of questions about in the quarter, the backlog growth Significantly decelerated, yet the comments about the overall business reaccelerating, You guys were clear about and so there were questions around, were there any one time milestone JV rev rec or SPAC contribution in the quarter That may have explained this. And can you just comment about the backlog growth versus the comments you said about reacceleration because they don't really match up When we look at the numbers?

Speaker 4

Yes. So happy to take that. And I think just to start off, when you're looking at Reacceleration, I'd point to the U. S. Commercial business is really driving our business forward and sort of where our focus is.

Speaker 4

And it did reaccelerate Significantly, in Q1, right, it was 26% year over year growth, 39% sequential. If you want to exclude, SPAC revenue, it grew over 45% and grew 24% Sequentially, so like it's exceptional reacceleration. And then if you want to look at bookings, you can look at U. S. TCV, up 170%, excuse me, U.

Speaker 4

S. Commercial TCV is up 170% Year over year. So like all the measures are there.

Speaker 1

I think, look, I just want to give you a somewhat orthogonal answer to your question. We have a tale of 2 cities here. We have America, which is growing around 28%, is now 64% of our business. 4 years ago, it was 37% of our business. We're absolutely disrupting in the U.

Speaker 1

S. Of A. International is growing around 10%, and that is becoming obviously a smaller part of our business. And so what you what I tend to see when I look at the numbers is, yes, if we believe the U. S.

Speaker 1

Is we see the U. S. Is growing, we see the That U. S. Is reaccelerating, although reaccelerating is the wrong word because in fact U.

Speaker 1

S. Commercial has been accelerating and accelerating And it's just become a much bigger part of our business. And last not least, what's not in the numbers is I spend a lot of my time on the road. I'm talking to the U. S.

Speaker 1

Customers. I'm talking and they're not the quality of the questions has shifted from why would we need this to how would I use it. And that's just purely on the foundry front. And then The inbound on anything related to AI both from existing customers, by the way, on that score, we sit on the world's most important private sensitive networks, Both in commercial and government, every single one of those clients needs an AI strategy and we have unique technology and software for that. So But I think if you were if you wanted to look at the positive, negative of our business, like, yes, sure, we I do not Expect international to grow much more than it is growing now.

Speaker 1

I do expect the U. S. To continue to grow, and we're very optimistic about what will happen there.

Operator

Thanks, Alex. Our next question is from Mariana with Bank of America. Mariana, please turn on your camera and then you'll receive a prompt to unmute your line. Mariana, can you hear us?

Speaker 2

Hello.

Operator

You hear me? Yes. Perfect. I'm Charles with technology still. My question is about

Speaker 1

We can't hear you.

Operator

Sorry, Mariana, you're cutting out. I'm so sorry. No problem. We can just move on. Our next question is from Keith with Morgan Stanley.

Operator

Keith, please turn on your camera and then you'll receive a prompt

Speaker 2

All right.

Speaker 5

Can you guys hear me?

Speaker 1

Yes. Good.

Speaker 5

Excellent. So, we talked a lot about, accelerating U. S. Commercial business, reorienting the company to a certain extent, for this commercial opportunity with the AI platform. Two questions.

Speaker 5

1, can you talk to us a little bit about changes that you're looking to make in the go to market for this AI platform? Any sense you could give us in terms of how you're looking to price the platform? What's sort of like the initial conversation's been like? And what do you think the Pricing modality is going to be like around that AI platform. And then the last question on GAAP profitability.

Speaker 5

This quarter, you did have a pull forward of revenues that kind of helped the commercial business, helped the overall profitability. To some sense, you got to make that up a little bit in Q2 and Q3. Are there any, like, tactical things that you're doing or cost Reduction initiatives that you're putting in place to ensure that GAAP profitability to offset that pull forward that upfront revenue recognition you saw in Q1.

Speaker 1

I'll take the AI thing and Sean maybe want to add something and then you can talk about all of our various strategies to Be more and more efficient. No, our basic this is counterintuitive, but we we're going to within the context of being profitable, Our idea our strategy on AI is to just take the whole market. We have no pricing strategy. We're going to create a lot of value. We're going to get hundreds of customers and we will price it as we go.

Speaker 1

One of the things you we've seen over and over again is When you're ahead of the market, you need to take territory. We want to take territory for two reasons. 1, we believe we have the only product currently on the market that can solve some of these Intricate technical needs. 2, we've spent years building certain things like how do you manage knowledge systems across Algorithms across security interest, we know how hard it is to build this. We believe that people, it will take years for people to build these things.

Speaker 1

And 3, because as we take territory, we educate the market. And the market, quite frankly, many analysts believe this stuff is really easy. You educate the market to see how hard it is. And in doing that, you then have pricing parity because they will try other things that, for technical reasons, are likely to fail. So our especially in the U.

Speaker 1

S, we have some non U. S. Customers. There are some exceptions to this. We can't do this for free for governments for legal reasons and because we have so many already AI driven clients.

Speaker 1

But in the U. S. Commercial context, Our strategy is going to be to take territory, educate the market and make it very difficult for other people entering the market because they'll have to compete with a product We've already been working on for de facto years with solving technical issues that the market doesn't yet realize exist. Then I'll leave what Yes.

Speaker 3

I was just going to say from a product perspective with AIP, we're just razor focused on creating value as quickly as possible. Think it's not actually clear from the outside how far ahead we are. If you think about the intermediary scale data challenges that you face and getting value out of LLMs and they're extremely small context Like, how are you going to bridge the gap between big data and smaller context windows? You need an ontology. And all of these got like, how did we build an insurance GPT agent in 2 days?

Speaker 3

Because we stood on the shoulders of 2 years of a very robust ontology that enabled us to unlock huge value. Maybe you should assume

Speaker 1

what an ontology is because For most people, yes.

Speaker 3

Yes. I could take the rest of the call with that. But I think simply I

Speaker 1

love that.

Speaker 5

It's more interesting than that.

Speaker 3

You have the semantic representation of the business. Sometimes people call it digital twin. I hate that because it cheapens it and how it's been diluted. But like, what is the business? How do we think about it?

Speaker 3

How does the data To the operations that happen and then you have the kinetic layer of like, well, how do we make decisions? How do I adjudicate a claim? What does that mean? How does it flow through the system? These are prerequisites.

Speaker 3

You can think about that second piece, the kinetics is the tools you give the LLMs to actually drive and automate your business processes. You think about the former part of like how do I actually reason about what's going on, and I need that as almost like a form of compression to get everything into that small context window, Like, that's that's a physical limitation of the FLMs. So I think the amount of ground we can take means that the only reasonable strategy is to focus on

Speaker 1

And and when implicit in what Shyam was saying is Without essentially, other people call it a knowledge graph, in fact, de facto, you could view it as like a dynamic Semantic layer where the assumptions of your world are built in it and can map across your you will just not be able to use this technology. Now That's something we know, no one else knows, no one believes it, but they're about to find out. And so we we don't have to have this debate with people. We're just going to show clients, hey, this will work, you will get value. We've done this before.

Speaker 1

It's and also crazy hard to build this. So if you know how to do it, you have a 3 year build.

Speaker 3

And we didn't even talk about the guardrails, the military grade security, the safe handoff functions that are extent, right? Like, we can go running at this so hard.

Speaker 1

And again, in a highly regulated environment, whether people listen to this like it or not, America is a highly regulated environment. You will not be able to use this technology without What Shyam is calling guardrails, Shyam, but what he really means is with a branching technology where ACLs can be applied to the internal systems In a way that you can still get the work be able to do the work because you have a semantic layer. And that's all garbly good to people except for it will not be garbly good To everybody who wants to use this technology in a productive way, and we just, you know, we spent 20 years building these things and we're going to litigate that on the front And figure out how we get paid later.

Speaker 4

And on GAAP profitability, we're going to get there with the U. S. Business. And when you look to U. S.

Speaker 4

Commercial, That will help push us there. And then when you look at sort of what we've been doing on the cost side, G and A efficiency, The cloud cost we keep talking about because it really, really is making a difference in our business. And then we're going to be prudent with our headcount in certain places and in other places,

Speaker 3

we're

Speaker 4

going to really

Speaker 1

I mean, there's an obvious thing. We're growing, we believe, and the numbers show we're disrupting in the U. S. We're going to invest heavily. In places we're growing 10%, we're going to reduce costs.

Speaker 1

There's no mystery here.

Operator

Thanks. Alex, as always, we have a lot of individual investors on the line. Is there anything you'd like to say before we end the call?

Speaker 1

You're my favorite investors. I say it every call. A lot of the decisions we make are made because We are in full alignment with you. There's a tendency among elites to overlook your knowledge. My experience is the people that pay attention to the product, the product is used and are more accurate in the strengths and weaknesses of PG, Foundry, Symantec Layer and now AI are very often people investing their own money.

Speaker 1

And I now as we Become profitable in the next two quarters. I expect that we will become part of the S and P and we'll have many more institutional investors, but I will not stop valuing you and I appreciate your support.

Operator

Thanks. That concludes Q and A for today's

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