Bentley Systems Q1 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

There are 13 speakers on the call.

Operator

Systems Q1 2023 operating results. I'm Eric Boyer, Bentley's Investor Relations Officer. On the webcast today, we have Bentley Systems' Chief Executive Officer, Greg Bentley Chief Operating Officer, Nicholas Cummins and Chief Financial Officer, Werner Andre. This webcast includes forward looking statements made as of May 9, 2020 3, regarding the future results of operations and financial position, business strategy and plans and objectives for future operations of Bentley Systems Incorporated. All such statements made in or containing during this webcast, other than statements of historical fact, are forward looking statements.

Operator

This webcast will be available For replay on Bentley Systems' Investor Relations website at investors. Bentley.com. After our presentation, we will conclude with Q and A. Just a quick administrative matter before we begin. You can now find our 2022 Annual Report along with the CEO letter and our inaugural ESG report on our Investor Relations website.

Operator

And With that, let me introduce the CEO of Bentley Systems, Greg Bentley.

Speaker 1

Good morning, and thanks to each of you for your interest and attention. With the retirement of our Chief Investment Officer, David Hollister, and the division of his responsibilities among the rest of us, Our presentation sequence starting this quarter is meant to be simpler and more concise. I will offer observations of directions in our business, will report on corporate developments and provide updates on our capital allocation. Then Chief Operating Officer, Nicholas Cummins, will provide expanded operating perspectives, now including a Meistat tone of business by sector and commercial model as well as by region and by brand. CFO, Werner Andre, will conclude with our financial performance as usual.

Speaker 1

Robust operating results for 'twenty three Q1 echo what I think has come to be expected of Bentley Systems' end market resilience, Predictably accretive business model and the consistency of our execution, and thankfully, absent last year's unfavorable drama in Russia and China. We met or surpassed expectations for our financial performance metrics, most significantly including Operating margins measured now by adjusted operating income with stock based compensation. Our operating cash flows were even higher than expected, But as Werner will explain, we expect consistency here on a trailing 12 months basis. As Nicholas will elaborate, All operating trends remain directionally strong. And as he will explain, even though this year has Started appreciably better in China than in other recent years.

Speaker 1

That probably will serve to accelerate our intentional localization pivot there At some increasing cost to existing ARR. All considered, our across the board strength in 'twenty three Q1 Duly increases our confidence in our annual financial outlook for 2023. And as to what I consider our key metric, ARR growth, indeed, this expanded sequentially to a first quarter high of 13% Year over year constant currency business performance. With net revenue retention over trailing 12 months, remain consistently high at 110%. This new business strength is consistent with External benchmarks, as the Dodge survey of U.

Speaker 1

S. Civil engineering firms, continues to show that their current backlogs have kept increasing continuously. Broadening to ACEC survey of U. S. Engineering firms generally, not limited to civil, such firms are confident About backlogs continuing to increase over the coming 12 months.

Speaker 1

And as to that 12 month horizon for their expectations about macro conditions at Versus their own environment, U. S. Engineering firms' sentiment has generally improved over the last quarter, But again, more so for overall engineering and design services and especially for their own firms' favorable prospects. And this latest ACEC survey of U. S.

Speaker 1

Engineering firms current sentiment by industry, Here, Matt to BSY's infrastructure sectors correlates with our own new business resilience With quite favorable sentiment for water wastewater within our resources sector, broadly leading sentiment for industries within the public works /utilitiessector, satisfactory sentiment for industrial and industries within the commercial facilities sector, that is Vertical infrastructure generally lagging. For U. S. AEC firms, the most significant annual survey was just published By engineering news record earlier this month, ranking the U. S.

Speaker 1

Headquartered top 500 by design billings. They report their design billings to ENR in accordance with this breakdown. So their aggregate design billings here can likewise be generally grouped within BS wise infrastructure sectors in these proportions. For resources, including at least water networks, The mainstay for us and for these top design firms overall, Public WorksUtilities, for industrial, And for the commercial facilities sector, which leaves some reported design billings not applicable to infrastructure sectors. Of course, each year the top 500 are a somewhat different set of firms.

Speaker 1

So the year to year growth in the total of their design billings Does not per se correspond to an organic growth rate, but note the conspicuous inflection now underway in the top 500 firms design billings as, along with somewhat greater inflation, design intensive infrastructure projects for resilience, Adaptation and energy security are being increasingly prioritized. ENR does not annually report the Top design rankings for those largest headquartered outside the U. S. Until early summer. So the latest analytics For the global top design firms are still using the combined 2022 rankings, when the consolidated top 637 firms added aggregate design billings of $216,000,000,000 I have been reasonably asked why When China represents only a few percent of BSY revenues, we are allocating so much attention and emphasis On our determinedly new China specific go to market strategy, particularly as everywhere else in the world, we relatively uniformly apply our proven Direct sales formula.

Speaker 1

The ENR top firm rankings show the answer in terms of magnitude. Just the top 19 firms in China Perform 27% of the design billings of all the world's top firms. This proportion is not an abstract future projection, Nor is it derived from murky economic statistics. Rather, this reflects the here and now proportion that China already represents Among our top accounts and prospects, if and when we can earn the same share of design billings in China as elsewhere, Our overall scale of usage and revenues could grow at comparatively little incremental cost by almost 25%. To quantify BSY's current penetration rate outside China, consider that our project wise enterprise collaboration system is Particularly well established in these top firms to distribute their engineering workflows across their globally virtualized talent resources.

Speaker 1

Such work sharing has become increasingly essential for these firms throughout the pandemic and since then in light of their staffing challenges To meet the backlogs we were just looking at, we know from our consumption log analytics the number of users of ProjectWise within these firms as we charge them each calendar quarter per unique user. Based on the middle of the road assumption that these top Firm's design billings are performed by full time employees, FTEs, each estimated to generate an average of 200 ks of design billings annually. It turns out that about 14% of these FTEs in a calendar quarter are ProjectWise users. While I am sure this makes us by far the leader in enterprise collaboration for these top firms, the remaining Opportunity for firms and projects to further standardize on project wise is a compelling priority for our product, sales and success organizations. Collectively, these global ENR top design firms alone account for about 1 fourth of BSY's ARR.

Speaker 1

And of course, within this, we log each hour of each firm's users' BSY application consumption. And most of these firms are E365 accounts That we charge per day of such use. So how does our revenue compare to the design firm's revenue for each such design hour As to which an educated assumption is that these ex China firms bill at about $150 on average. For each such hour using BSY applications, the average expenditure by these top design firms is $1.41 Or less than 1% of that hour's rate of billing. And apportioning these firms' project wise expenditures over their BSY application usage hours adds on average about $0.39 in cost per such design hour.

Speaker 1

While there are other additional costs of going digital, among others hardware, Microsoft, communications, internal support, I think there would be general agreement that BSwise application software and ProjectWise, if used, most largely the actual value of that design hour, yet presently account for only a few percent of the total cost to the design firm. At this juncture, when such firms face record backlogs, but are constrained from adding hours by the limitations of skill shortages, I think this makes the case that there is a long upside runway ahead for us to provide and be paid commensurately for More valuable, more specialized applications, enabling a continuously increasing rate of application mix accretion. Now by way of reporting corporate portfolio developments in the last 2 months, we announced during 23 Q1 our investment in world sensing, Up and coming global independent leader in integrated infrastructure IoT hardware connectivity solutions. In exchange for the Thread Connectivity hardware, which we acquired with SensiMetrix in 2021, and a financial investment in World Sensing's CIRRI's D capital round, we have acquired a low double digit equity stick. But even more importantly, Our sensometric software within Itwin IoT will be closely, though nonexclusively integrated with world sensing Sensors and network connectivity hardware and our freemium trial license subscription will be included In all new world sensing installations.

Speaker 1

For this quarter's observations about capital allocation, I will next show how I think about measuring and optimizing debt leverage within our capital structure that's dominated by convertible securities. I think this is significant because you can look at a Bloomberg screen that shows BSY as a highly leveraged outlier As a result of not distinguishing between convertibles and straight debt. Now I recognize that accounting rules do treat convertible securities 100% as debt. But for leverage assessment, I believe it's appropriate to look more through a finance lens as with the holders of the convertibles As they are intrinsically and intentionally a dynamic mix between debt on the one hand and equity on the other. Obviously, our bank debt, Which was incurred early last year to finance our highly accretive platform acquisition of PowerLine Systems and which net of cash was down to 340,000,000 at the end of 'twenty three Q1, anchors our debt leverage.

Speaker 1

But how should we think about our unquestionably attractive convertible debt, With coupon rates of 1 8ths 3 8ths percent covenant free, which financed our highly accretive platform acquisition of Seequent in 2020. It consists of an issue maturing in 2026, which one can view on this Bloomberg page, Including here a computed delta statistic. That's for the embedded equity option. The delta changes constantly based on the BSY stock price, volatility, interest rates and the remaining times maturity. Snapshot reflect the market on a recent day.

Speaker 1

The other issue maturing in 2027 has a different delta statistic corresponding to its Different parameters. In any prevailing market condition, these delta statistics, look here I admit to being a recovering financial engineer, As the first company I founded 35 years ago was in the business of software for derivatives modeling. The Delta can help us To conceptually a portion each convertible issue between debt and equity. The delta is the hedge ratio, The degree to which the value of the convertible issue moves in relation to the value of the underlying shares as the stock price changes. The delta would range from 0 at the maturity date if the stock price would be lower than the strike price, such that the security then behaves as if all debt To 1, if at maturity, the stock price would be higher than the strike price, such that conversion to equity would be certain.

Speaker 1

Accordingly, at the delta of 0.43 for the first issue, we can ascribe 43% of its Face value to be acting as if approximately 4,500,000 shares of equity and the remainder to be acting approximately As if $400,000,000 of debt. And at its delta of 0.39, doing the same for the 2027 issue Results as if $350,000,000 of debt. Now we reckon our leverage ratio on the basis of our adjusted EBITDA As that's what our bank syndicate does for pricing and covenants. And for the last 12 months through 'twenty three Q1, our adjusted EBITDA was $383,000,000 which implies a net bank debt leverage ratio of 0.9 times. And for the delta The debt portion of both convertible issues, additional leverage of 1.9 times.

Speaker 1

For a total Current effective debt leverage ratio of 2.8 times adjusted EBITDA, tolerably approaching the range, Which I think we would consider optimal. Now I'd welcome feedback on this apparently novel delta adjusted approach To monitoring leverage that includes convertibles. But now over to Nicholas for his Informed operational perspectives on 2023 Q1. Nicholas?

Speaker 2

Thank you, Greg. We had a strong start to 2023, and we see momentum continuing into Q2 with healthy pipelines and many upgrade and expansion opportunities. The demand environment continues to be very positive and the pace of business is brisk. Incrementally, we see more evidence of funds From infrastructure investment programs flowing through to our accounts around the world, and this will continue to be a tailwind for the foreseeable future. Let me now provide some color commentary starting with Infrastructure Sectors.

Speaker 2

The trends in Q1 were consistent quarter over quarter. We saw very strong growth in resources, strong growth in Public Works and Utilities, solid growth in the Industrial Sector, With commercial and facilities somewhat flat. We continue to hear from some accounts concerns about interest rates and inflation. But in Q1, there were no surprises. Our recent infrastructure remains very resilient.

Speaker 2

Turning to commercial models. Our E365 and Virtualcity growth initiatives continued their upward inflection. In Q1, we upgraded to E365 almost twice the number of accounts than we did in Q1 of 2022. Bear in mind, however, that the accounts remaining to be upgraded tend to be those with low ARR to start with. Over the last 3 years, we have grown E365 primarily with global enterprise accounts.

Speaker 2

And we increasingly view the regional mid market as a significant opportunity For E365. We were excited to upgrade to E365 a number of regional mid market accounts in Q1, And we are on pace to hit our target for the year. As you know, E365 is a consumption based commercial model. And post upgrade, our user success teams pay particular attention to the adoption of our software through success blueprints That are designed to achieve business outcomes through more efficient and effective use of digital delivery workflows. Q1 was a very strong quarter in terms of consumption growth by E3C5 accounts.

Speaker 2

In SMB, the tone of business was very positive, and we saw a continuation of our growth trajectory across the board. In fact, Vuturacity achieved its highest number of new logos in a single quarter. We see our SMB pipelines growing day in, day out. And the good news is that a lot of virtuality business is closing within 30 days. Next, looking across regions.

Speaker 2

India was a bright spot. The national infrastructure pipeline is funding large transportation and water projects. These projects are ecosystems of their own, And we've been very effective in driving adoption of our software by owner operators and their value chain of project delivery firms, large and small. Global product delivery firms also continue to tap into India's engineering talent to support projects around the world and to help close their capacity gap. We also saw continued solid growth in Europe with more evidence of EU funding flowing through, for example, in transportation and water projects in Italy.

Speaker 2

Growth was solid in the Americas too, with abundant project backlogs across multiple business lines, Including projects from owner operators, expanding to project delivery firms, primarily for design. And we saw more IIJ Funding flowing through to DOTs, which is very positive news for us. As we have mentioned on previous calls, Infrastructure engineering in North America is characterized by a very tight labor market with an aging workforce. And product delivery firms simply cannot attract talent fast enough. Interest rates and inflation are also making infrastructure projects more expensive.

Speaker 2

And as a result, owners are very focused on managing costs. Both of these factors, productivity and efficiency, aligning very well with our value propositions. Middle East and North Africa showed some softness, but this was due to very specific account And one time effects, and we do not believe these constitute a trend. In China, the impact of COVID is now In the rearview mirror, and the Chinese government is very focused on bringing the economy back. We had a better start to the year as revenue retention Fabulous in the quarter.

Speaker 2

Although we continue to be cautious for the remainder of the year due to the geopolitical and business environments. Last week, we officially formed East Wise, our joint venture with Power China HDEC. The focus is on engineering applications for the hydropower and water Conservancy Industries that leverage our platform, but are developed and distributed domestically. As with our other joint venture, TGX, and their product, EyeLink, our net revenue proportion will decline for the accounts that transition to the new localized offerings. However, we expect that the depth of the market for autonomous Chinese solutions will eventually more than make up for this.

Speaker 2

In the meantime, especially because the joint ventures will cater to the preference of Chinese state owned enterprises for perpetual licenses, The faster the JVs take off, the greater the erosion of our existing ARR in China. With respect to products, The performance of Open Roads, Open Bridge, MicroStation asset wise was notable in Q1. Of particular interest, in transportation in North America, We saw strong growth in Bentley Open Applications, especially Open Roads and Open Bridge, as well as MicroStation, a reflection of our strength in the DOT ecosystems. DOTs are resource constrained, but the usage of our software accelerated with the engineering services firms that are part of their ecosystem. This was a result of the training and over the shoulder mentoring our user success teams have been giving to engineering services firms to put them in a better position to deliver in the DOT market.

Speaker 2

The instances of DOT's requiring models Indeliverables showed extensive growth in Q1 and we did not see that slowing down in Q2. DOTs are looking to do more with less Through going digital. Digital delivery tools and techniques can streamline processes across infrastructure engineering lifecycle And enable seamless collaboration across the OT ecosystems. Digital delivery advances design intent to construction Using digital twins for collaboration among project stakeholders. Digital twins created and updated through start the digital delivery process Can then be leveraged in asset operations and maintenance to take advantage of engineering data.

Speaker 2

In this context, We announced in Q1 a new collaboration with design and consulting firm WSB aimed at leading civil infrastructure owners and contractors To adopt digital delivery and model based digital workflows, WSB launched a new digital construction management solution and advisory service Based on Bentley's Syncro, leveraging the power of construction digital twins. WSB joined the Bentley Digital Integrity Program, which provides programmatic go to market support and knowledge transfer to eligible project delivery firms that are creating and curating digital twins For their clients' infrastructure assets. Before I hand over, I want to thank all Bentley colleagues for a great start to the year and for your commitment To consistent execution, more infrastructure is in the works now than at any previous time in history. And the infrastructure sector is relying on Bentley software to help it deliver a more sustainable and resilient future. And with those operational perspectives, I will now hand the call to Werner to go over our financials in more detail.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Nicholas. We are pleased that we started the year strong, which puts us in a good position to achieve our established full year outlook. I'm starting with a reminder of our full year 2023 revenue outlook as was provided during our year end 2022 operating results call With a range of €1,205,000,000 to €1,235,000,000 representing GAAP revenue growth Of 9.5 percent to 12.5 percent or 10.5% to 13.5% on a constant currency basis. Total revenues for the Q1 were €314,000,000 up 14% year over year or 17% on a constant currency basis. For the quarter, subscription revenues grew 15% year over year or 18% in constant currency and represented 88% of our total revenues.

Speaker 3

The onboarding of PowerLine Systems at the end of January 2022 accounts for about 2 percentage points of this improvement. And the continued upgrades of our enterprise accounts to our consumption based E365 program is moving us towards a more ratable allocation of GAAP revenues It's been calendar quarters, which benefited the Q1 on a year over year comparative basis. Regarding our perpetual licenses, Recent trends continue, which are reflective of our focus on recurring subscription revenues. Our professional services revenues benefited from the acquisition of VETASI, which we acquired within our cohesive digital integrator group in 2022 Q4. With regards to foreign exchange rates, the U.

Speaker 3

S. Dollar has And relative to the exchange rates assumed in our 2023 annual financial outlook, while the impact during 'twenty three Q1 was not significant, If end of April exchange rates would prevail throughout the remainder of the year, our full year GAAP revenues would be positively impacted By approximately €10,000,000 relative to the revenues based on the exchange rates assumed in our full year 2023 outlook. Moving on to our recurring revenue performance. Our last 12 months recurring revenues increased by 14% year over year Up at 20% on a constant currency basis. On a constant currency basis, the onboarding of our platform acquisition, Seqent and PowerLine Systems Contributed about 6 percentage points to this improvement.

Speaker 3

Our constant currency account retention rate was at 98% And our constant currency recurring revenues net retention rate remained at 110%, led by continued accretion Within our E365 consumption based commercial model. We ended Q1 with annualized recurring revenues of £1,071,000,000 at quarter end spot rates. Our constant currency ARR growth rate Was 13% year over year and 3.1% on a sequential quarterly basis. You can see in the dotted line the ARR growth, which is attributable to the initial onboarding of our platform acquisitions. As the PLS acquisition occurred at the end of January 2022, its ARR onboarding is no longer a factor in the year over year Comparison.

Speaker 3

Our strong and sustained Q1 revenue and ARR growth performance Was supported by consistently strong market growth trends led by our resources and public works utilities infrastructure sectors, Our balanced business performance across regions other than China and our E365 and Virtuosity Growth initiatives. With regards to China, our Q1 was slightly better than in recent years, but we are still taking a cautious stance for 2023 Due to the continued geopolitical uncertainties and as Nicholas mentioned, our intentional pivot to license sales within that market, which will be a headwind to ARR growth as our joint ventures gain traction. Our GAAP operating income was €66,000,000 for the Q1, Up €9,000,000 or 16 percent over 22 Q1. We have previously explained the impact on our GAAP operating results From amortization of purchased intangibles, deferred compensation plan liability revaluations and acquisition expenses. Moving on to adjusted operating income inclusive of stock based compensation expense, which as discussed in our 2022 Q4 earnings call It's now our primary profitability and margin performance measure.

Speaker 3

While adjusted operating income with stock based compensation Normalizes for the GAAP charges I just mentioned. This measure intentionally includes stock based compensation expense, which we believe appropriately captures the economic cost to our business. Adjusted operating income with stock based compensation expense Was €90,000,000 for the Q1, up €12,000,000 or 15% over 2022 Q1 with a margin of 28.8%, up 40 basis points year over year. In 2023 and prospectively, we will now measure our long term annual margin improvement commitment of 100 basis points expressed in terms of adjusted operating income with stock based compensation With our margin target for 2023 of approximately 26%. In that regard, Our Q1 margin of 28.8 percent was fully in line with our expectations for the Q1, which is typically a higher margin quarter for us Due to OpEx seasonality and I do want to remind you of our seasonal pattern of expenses.

Speaker 3

We concentrate our annual For colleagues to occur as of April 1 each year. And since approximately 80% of our cost structure is headcount and related to support costs, Annual raises have a significant impact on our operating expenses in Q2, Q3 and Q4 relative to Q1. This is further compounded by our larger promotional and event related costs, which are historically highest in second half of the year. We expect that our annual stock based compensation expense will be decreasing as a percentage of revenues to a range of 6% From approximately 7% in 2022, there will continue to be some stock based compensation expense volatility between quarters, Corresponding to the timing of our ongoing annual round of broad based equity grants, which are predominantly granted in the first and fourth With respect to liquidity, our Q1 operating cash flow of €176,000,000 increased by 73 I discussed during our 2022 Q4 operating results call that our 2022 Q4 Cash flows from operations were atypically low due to a shift in timing of Q4 billings and therefore collections of certain E365 renewals and newly converted E365 contracts, all representing healthy new business. These 'twenty two Q4 timing shortfalls were fully offset in early 2023, resulting in 'twenty three Q1 being a strong cash flow quarter.

Speaker 3

As previously discussed, our business model produces reliable and efficient cash flows Over a trailing 12 months period, but with some variability between quarters due to timing. For 2023 and prospectively, we estimate that our conversion rate of adjusted EBITDA to cash flow from operations Will be approximately 80% over a trailing 12 months period. Along with providing sufficiently for our growth initiatives And our 2023 increase to our modest dividend, in 2023 Q1, we spent about €21,000,000 on de facto share repurchases Associated mainly with deferred compensation plan distributions to offset dilution from stock based compensation. As of the end of Q1, our net senior debt leverage was 0.9 times and when including our 2026 In 20 27 convertible notes as debt, our net debt leverage was 4.2 times. This is down from the end of 2022, which was 1.3x and 4.7x respectively.

Speaker 3

As a reminder, now approximately 85% of our debt It's protected from rising interest rates through either very low fixed coupon interest of our convertible notes or our €200,000,000 interest rate swap expiring in 2030. With regards to our 2023 financial outlook, We started the year with strong operational execution and momentum in our end markets. This allows us to express great confidence in our 2023 Look, which we believe is appropriately balanced between our business momentum and the cautious approach towards China And our commercial and facilities sector due to geopolitical and macro uncertainties. And with that, I think we are ready for Q and A. Over to Eric to moderate.

Speaker 3

Thank you.

Speaker 4

We will now move to

Operator

the Q and A portion of

Speaker 4

our call. We ask each analyst Our first question will come from Christian Owen from Oppenheimer.

Speaker 1

Yes, I

Speaker 5

can hear you now. Thank you. So wanted to ask First about Sequent, because that just continues to be a business that outperforms our expectations. And As an outside observer, you might look at that business and think, well, mining, geothermal, these are capital intensive businesses. So why are they holding up so well?

Speaker 5

And if I could ask you to talk a little bit about what's sustaining growth in that segment and maybe where we are in terms of untapping some of the revenue synergies Between the legacy customer bases there. Thank you.

Speaker 1

I might start. The reasons are secular reasons, the world's priority on Energy transition and electrification require the mining activities. And that's got a long runway ahead, I believe. Much of our Purpose in bringing the subsurface digital twin into our realm is the Synergies with civil engineering projects and subsurface infrastructure conditions and that's proceeding as well. It's just not Nearly so visible in the numbers as is the momentum in mining.

Speaker 1

Nicolas, would you like to add?

Speaker 2

Yes. So Sequent is indeed maintaining a high level of growth. And It is fair to say that it's a rather diversified business. The majority of the growth is still in mining And the market conditions remain really favorable in mining. So despite some short term volatility on some prices, The mining companies are looking and using long term price assumptions to decide whether they're going to open up new mines or expand existing mines.

Speaker 2

And those assumptions are positive. So they're still investing, yes? But in this, Sequon is involved in more than mining. One of the main reasons why They were so excited to be part of Bentley, was to accelerate their growth in SIBM. And I will say for most of 2022, our focus was Still more on the back office integration with Sequent and our focus has shifted to the front office synergies, the business synergies, in particular with civil.

Speaker 2

Now all the relevant Sequent products for civil engineering are available to our E365 accounts. And in Q1, we've seen a nice uptick of those products. It's still early, of course, but it's looking very promising.

Speaker 1

And finally, just a reminder that the consumption of the sequence software in mining is more to do with the OpEx throughput of mines than the CapEx Necessarily of Newmont.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Kristen. Our next question will come from Matt Hedberg from RBC.

Speaker 6

Hey, guys. Good morning.

Speaker 7

Thanks for taking my question. And I appreciate the format this quarter. That was super helpful. Greg, you spent some time talking about the importance of China, which I think we all appreciate. Maybe I missed it, but could you talk maybe about some of the Expected ARR headwinds this year, I don't know if you can quantify that.

Speaker 7

And then perhaps even more so, once the JVs are in place, what sort of tailwind do you think that could provide at some point in the future.

Speaker 1

Well, it's toughest to know, so I say the unpredictability in China. The rest of our business is so predictable and the trends are so prevailing that China is by far the contrast. As far as ARR in China, the rest of our business is an ARR intensive business, But China increasingly is not an ARR intensive country. They prefer perpetual licenses. There is not The ability to have SaaS software there and we're going increasingly Indirect, all of those are factors that will literally reduce our ARR.

Speaker 1

And so as to the significance of China for our overall financial outlook for this year. Recall that over each of the past 2 years, in each of those years, we have lost More than a full percent of our overall ARR in China. Partially, that's the rest of the world growing. Partially, that's No currency weakness in China, but it's mainly state owned enterprises and geopolitical headwinds To do the right thing for the long term, which is always our focus, not the short term, we are pivoting to this localization Strategy, but it's only going to mean that everything else benefits, not ARR and we literally will lose existing ARR the better that goes, as Nicholas Now how fast will it turn around to where we have higher unit volume to make up for that? And by the way, we'll make up for it on other line items than ARR.

Speaker 1

Well, that is really hard to say, but we are really hopeful about it. And the reason I wanted to show that China is 27% of the Engineering activity by the by even just the largest identifiable firms is to reinforce the magnitude of Their engineers are great users of our software here and now if we can get that to them over the overcoming the geopolitical obstacles.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Brent. Matt, our next question will come from Joe Bruyling from Robert W. Baird.

Speaker 8

Great. Hi, everyone.

Speaker 9

Yes. I think this might be the Q1 where you've explicitly commented on the connection between IIJA, DOT is being funded and now your related product seeing a consumption benefit. So I guess my question is, What is your expectation here in North America as just more projects are undertaken through 2023 and even it should be the case into 2024. And then maybe not to lead you in any direction, but it seems like Water and the electric utilities could maybe be the next big areas to see a step up if road and bridge are seeing it right now?

Speaker 1

Yes, I think especially the uptick we remain to not have seen yet in IIJA is in this other half of the money Besides the transportation money and that really is making progress, but it is not equivalently flowing As is the case with the road and bridge and transit funding already. Nicolas, do you want to add to that?

Speaker 2

We are indeed seeing the budget of the DOTs growing quite a bit. And this is obviously related to IIJA. And this allows them to fully fund projects where software is being used. A good example is the Brent Spence bridge between Kentucky and Ohio. So this is where we're Seeing now the first impact of IH J, but we're just starting, right?

Speaker 2

It's a growing tailwind and it's going to get Stronger. We are seeing a more direct link when it comes to transportation indeed. But exactly as you were saying, Joe, we Just to look at IHJA and where they're planning the funding and we know that it will come as well when it comes to the war infrastructure, when it comes to the electric grid.

Speaker 4

Thank you.

Speaker 1

Just to add that there are permitting legislation in Congress now in the U. S, which would help to catalyze Faster spending especially for electric transmission and distribution among many energy projects, but the ones that are really teed up 2 that would make a big difference for us are in transmission and distribution of electricity.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Joshua.

Speaker 2

Next question will come

Speaker 4

from Jason Celino from KeyBanc.

Speaker 10

Great. Good morning, gentlemen. Thanks for fitting me in. I think My one question, I think I'll just focus on commercial facilities. I guess in the quarter, did you see any Headwind there and then I guess for the second half, do you kind of embed maybe some ex conservatism to the ARR guide?

Speaker 10

Thanks.

Speaker 1

Well, I think our word was flat, which of course could be worse, and we hope it won't get worse. But Nicholas, do you want to add on that?

Speaker 2

We remain very cautious because we attribute the flat growth to the market conditions. And We assume it is related to the, let's say, general underutilization of vertical infrastructure and the high interest rate environment, Which is not favorable for new projects, right? Now remember that it's a very small percentage of our ARR. It's a one Single digit now percentage of our ARR, but it was flat last quarter. We said flat again this quarter.

Speaker 2

We remain cautious.

Speaker 10

Okay, great. Appreciate the color. Thank you.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Jason. Our next question will come from Joshua Tilton from

Speaker 11

Hey, guys. Can you hear me?

Speaker 1

Yes.

Speaker 11

Great. Thanks for taking my question. I just I wanted to go back To the IIJA dollars and the DOTs, maybe just how has the competitive landscape within the DOT changed Since the last time you had an infrastructure bill or some type of funding to this level. And do you feel like there are more hands maybe trying to grab at the pie this time around? And how do you ensure that maybe you can take a similar share of the funding as you have done previously?

Speaker 1

Well, I think our share of work done by DOTs and in every 5 or 6 year bill, more and more relatively of their work is done In their supply chain, the engineering firms as they source more and more of it, we think that's been to Our general benefit as we focus more on this, something said is, however, is that in the current Environment of constraints on engineering capacity and with the IIJA money in each state, there's Pressure on the DOTs to be sure to spread that money around to include the smaller firms and Disadvantaged firms, in many cases, they have only done site civil engineering work with other competitive So there is pressure on the DOTs to be sure to include those new smaller firms to get some of this IJA work. We think that's ultimately good for us because those firms will want to take a look at Bentley Software and how they can increase their DOT work with specialization on Bentley software as well and we have programs to help them contractually be introduced to our Software, but it's all hands on deck to meet this capacity constraint for the DOTs competitive.

Speaker 4

Thanks. Our next question will come from Matthew Broom from Zuho Group.

Speaker 6

Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking my question.

Speaker 2

Could you maybe just talk about

Speaker 6

your current M and A priorities and sort of how you The current landscape back.

Speaker 1

Well, we still have white space to fill. And I think our acquisition Easy Power earlier this year is a great example for some Specialized electrical analysis that, if you like, is on the facility side of the meter and plants and major infrastructure installations. It had been Something where the electrical modeling was often done and other software that wasn't integrated and now it can all be done Increasingly in Bentley software without semantic translations and so forth will improve the Quality and speed, it's electrical modeling is never done in a plant or installation because The controls are constantly changing even when the rest of the capital remains the same. So that's just an example of An appropriate programmatic acquisition. The thing is you can't even though we say programmatic, It can't quite be expected and scheduled out.

Speaker 1

And as you know, we've had a fewer and smaller programmatic acquisitions over the last Year and a half now for no particular reason. To start with, some of that I think had to do with valuation or business owners waiting for better Evaluation, but we have a reasonable pipeline and are approaching it no differently Whenever the results turn out to be a little episodic, but that's the nature of the beast in M and A, I think.

Speaker 6

Got it. Thanks very much.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Matthew. Next question comes from Andrew Gaspari from Berenberg Capital Markets.

Speaker 6

Thanks for taking my question. I guess if I were to look at the growth for the rest of the year, in terms of consumption based accounts versus virtuosity, do you think we still will see the same typical pattern that we've seen, in other words, we see a seasonal slower Q2 with the ramp up for the rest of the year? And then, do you think the balance between the two will change in any way?

Speaker 1

Well, Virtuosity, the experience we have is only over the last Couple of years and it only gets bigger every quarter. There is a bit of a higher seasonality in Q4, but Otherwise, I think it's stand back and watch that continue to flush. In consumption, of Of course, we've been we can measure consumption historically as the but historically, our Revenues and ARR haven't depended as much on consumption as they do now given E365 has become our largest Commercial program, so we're learning more about that as we study it more. And as I mentioned, after 2022 Q4, Q4 has more holidays in it. There are fewer days of work.

Speaker 1

There are fewer days of consumption. Therefore, Q1 doesn't have that problem. And then the other quarters, you can make a science of where do the holidays fall and so forth. When we haven't sort of applied ourselves to that yet, but subject to the Holiday calendar effect, which can be a couple of percent if you think of a day within a quarter that has 60 workdays Or so it can matter. But subject to that, we certainly think everyone's as busy as they can be and our Test teams especially are there helping to introduce new more specialized applications and digital workflows Especially, so I hope we look back at this year and see a continued increase in application mix Accretion and my reason to show that even in the top firms, only $1.41 per hour is what Spent on our applications now is to show how much more potential there is to help them be more productive for the reasons Nicholas talked about by using more specialized software.

Speaker 1

We had that specialized software. We just need to be introducing those through the success teams.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Andrew. Next question comes from Jay Blishower from Griffin Securities.

Speaker 8

Thank you. Good morning. Nicholas, in your prepared remarks Regarding pipeline, could you talk about how that's being manifested in terms of demand for multi solution sales Across the portfolio and as well for the demand for your services and consulting support via Covisa, for example, Are you having to invest incrementally in your services and implementation capacity? Thank you.

Speaker 2

We are Strengthening the solution dimension in our go to market. And by solution, we mean how different products and the combination So this has helped solve specific issues of users' accounts in specific industries. So as we do this, Especially for our key growth industries, then yes, our conversations are multi products or cutting across product and services. Now the beauty of something I can tell you is once you're on that program, it goes fairly quickly from the conversation about solution that cuts across Products adopting and using those products because we removed all the friction in order to purchase the software, in order to access the So that are needed in order to implement, configure and integrate the software that you need.

Speaker 1

And I guess the What I would add is in the application in our applications, they can be added 1 at a time, one day at a time, 1 user at a time and end up being Multi product on a project that way, but our enterprise Solutions project wise and asset wise are typically procurement cycles involving RFPs, Often involving cohesive to help with integration and so they're there. But double sales motions at once are important. The Incremental evolutionary increase in-depth of applications and adding new users of project wise and Asset wise and I sort of showed how project wise is used extensively by the top Firms, but not by all the top firms and we have many more opportunities there and implementation and Digital integrator services will are needed and we want to be leading the way in Helping ultimately to recruit new digital integrators among the engineering firms themselves to help the owner operators and we're learning to do it better through Cohesive, which is now part of Nicholas' re net issue as well.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Jay. Thank you. Our next question is from Blair Abernathy from Rosenblatt

Speaker 12

Thanks. Good morning. Just wanted to see if we can get a little more color on the Virtuosity side of things. It sounds like you had Record logos, new logos added this quarter. Where are you seeing these?

Speaker 12

What sort of verticals or geographic Areas, are you seeing strength? Are you seeing any weaknesses in any areas? Just a little more color on that would be helpful.

Speaker 2

Yes. We have more than 700 new logos through virtual ZTE this quarter. It is our record quarter And the momentum is very strong. It correlates with where We're growing as a company overall. Recorded nicely actually with, for example, the commentary I gave on the regions.

Speaker 2

You will see, let's say, a really similar growth when it comes to virtual reality. One thing that is interesting is we're growing not only with Accounts in isolation, we're also growing and winning accounts in the context of those very large projects, Right. So a good example is in India, for example, where our software is being used by large Engineering firms, owners, operators in charge of massive water projects that are funded by the National Infrastructure Pipeline. This is actually pulling a lot of small engineering firms in their ecosystem to use our software. So we're getting smarter and smarter about how we play the dynamics of the full ecosystem in order to win not just a large organization, but Smaller ones that are part of that.

Speaker 2

And when we do that, we do it through Virtuosity.

Speaker 1

And I'll add that in China where we mentioned things having stabilized in the Last quarter, Virtuosity practitioner subscriptions are doing well in China. Now these, I think are being acquired, Obviously, not by the big state owned enterprises, but by the ecosystem in China. So we go where we can go for In a very large market. And even though overall China is characterized by preferring perpetual licenses, by Preparing large enterprise commercial programs. It's such a large market that we even can grow In virtuosity there.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Glenn. Thanks, Glenn. Thank you. Our next question will come from Matt Martino from Goldman Sachs.

Speaker 7

Hey, guys. Matt on for Kash here. Greg, India continues to perform very well. Can you just further characterize the Strength you're seeing in the region from an end market and allocation perspective? Thanks.

Speaker 1

Well, it tends to vary from quarter to quarter between Northern and Central and Southern here, but I'm going to ask Nicholas to comment on that sitting in Europe as he is doing. However, One thing I will remark upon is if you look at our attention, you'll see very high year over year revenue growth in Europe, which doesn't correspond to our commentary on ARR and that has to do with 606 GAAP Vagaries that come and go. So it's doing well, but it's not but there was a outsized Revenue growth there that isn't nearly so fundamental. But can you break it down for us, Nicholas, in Europe?

Speaker 2

I will say, if we look at Q1, the main growth drivers where we saw the strongest growth were in transportation and with rail projects in particular and then Trio with EPCs and Automotive. That's for Q1. But in general, what we're seeing is a really positive impact Of the EU infrastructure plans, the first one that came to force is the next generation EU and We submit that about 20% of the funding has been released and that goes straight to projects where our software is being used. In the prepared remarks, I mentioned, For example, the water projects in Italy, there are rail projects as well in Italy, where software is being used and they're funded by the EU. And then there's a new plan that got fully adopted now called the RepowerEU plan.

Speaker 2

It is about ensuring energy security, which is top of mind, as you can imagine, In Europe, it's also about accelerating energy transition. It was discussed a while back, but it was fully adopted in February, and we expect that to become tailwind as well because it plays for strength.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Matt. Our last question today will come from Michael Funk from Bank of America.

Speaker 8

Hey, Al. How are you doing?

Speaker 1

Cheers, Mike.

Speaker 8

Yes. Thank you for the question. 1, if I could. So on the leverage, Greg, you saw earlier your own calculation for net debt to EBITDA adjusting for the convert. How does it affect your view on funding acquisitions and debt capacity?

Speaker 1

Well, our compass is set So that we'll continue to delever, Werner quantified that about a 0.5 times Delevering in the Q1 alone, now the Q1 is our strong cash flow quarter. So we're In the gear we're in, we'll continue to delever. And I regard that that's not Imperative as if we're in fact, over levered, but it will help us to be opportunistic as you suggest for M and A Opportunities, if the programmatic opportunities come closer together or would get somewhat larger, and of course, we can't anticipate A platform acquisition, but they have come along, so they could come along again. And we would like to be well positioned to that with Less leverage than we have at the moment. So it's not an urgent matter to delever, but it's a sensible thing to do to be better prepared For M and A opportunities and in the meantime, we continue with our increased dividend this year And with our commitment to more or less repurchase equity and or convertibles to offset our Stock based compensation, which we're on track with so far this year.

Speaker 1

But I just generally feel comfortable With our leverage situation among things because our interest rates are either low or Sent by our swap to the extent of 85% of the debt we have now. And I did want to bring attention to the way we think about it, so that a balanced view, the thing about convertibles is They're either going to get converted or they're not. And we have to be ready for either situation, but such as the magnitude that they bear in relation to our cash I think we can be comfortable with that.

Speaker 8

And Greg, previously, I think you mentioned private market valuations are relatively elevated. Are you seeing those come down

Speaker 2

at all as you

Speaker 8

evaluate targets?

Speaker 1

I think somewhat. Yes. But Nicholas, the portfolio development and the programmatic acquisitions now are within your Remit, have you had a sounding on the market for that?

Speaker 2

No, I don't have anything special to say here.

Speaker 1

As you know, Michael, our My Twin Ventures, that's a Startup market, of course, we're all on the investment committee for that. And my goodness, the private valuations have Certainly been affected in that early stage. In the mature firms that we're Acquiring in our programmatic program, yes, I think there is some improvement And the balance of power to the purchaser. And I don't think valuations are Quite an issue now, it's availability and fitness that is determining our programmatic acquisition pace.

Speaker 8

Great. Thank you all for the time.

Speaker 4

Thanks, Michael. That concludes our call today. We thank each of you for your interest and time in Bentley Systems and look forward to updating you on our

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