Skillz Q1 2023 Earnings Report $4.06 -0.19 (-4.36%) Closing price 04/10/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$4.08 +0.02 (+0.49%) As of 04/10/2025 07:11 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Skillz EPS ResultsActual EPS-$1.80Consensus EPS -$1.40Beat/MissMissed by -$0.40One Year Ago EPSN/ASkillz Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$44.38 millionExpected Revenue$45.89 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$1.51 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ASkillz Announcement DetailsQuarterQ1 2023Date5/9/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateTuesday, May 9, 2023Conference Call Time4:30PM ETUpcoming EarningsSkillz's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 8, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 4:30 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistorySKLZ ProfilePowered by Skillz Q1 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrMay 9, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon. Welcome to Skillz First Quarter 2023 Conference Call. I will now turn the call over to Susan Swanson for opening remarks. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:16Good afternoon, and welcome to the SKILLS First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. With me today are Andrew Paradis, SKILLS' CEO Casey Chafkin, CSO and Jason Roslick, President and CFO. Note, our full financial results will be published tomorrow and will be available in our Investor Relations website. Before I turn the call over to Andrew, please note that some of our management's comments today will include forward facing statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. Forward looking statements, which are usually identified by the use of words such as will, expect, should or other similar phrases are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause Our actual results to differ materially from what we expect. Speaker 100:00:55Therefore, you should exercise caution in interpreting and relying on them. We refer you to these company's SEC filings for a more detailed discussion of the risks that could impact future operating results and financial condition. During the call, management will discuss non GAAP measures, which we believe can be useful in evaluating the company's operating performance. These measures should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for financial results prepared in accordance with GAAP. A reconciliation of these measures in the most directly comparable GAAP measures is available in our Q1 2023 earnings release. Speaker 100:01:26With that, I'll turn the call over to Andrew for some brief opening remarks before we open the call for questions. Andrew? Speaker 200:01:32Thank you, Susan, and to all of you for joining the call. In the Q1, we continued to make progress on the 4 strategic pillars that we laid out last year, While we continue to navigate difficult demand in macro environments, we're cautiously optimistic about the progress we're making And also want to be honest with our shareholders and ourselves that we're in the middle of tremendous change and it'd be premature to say we're out of the woods. To briefly review the quarter before I turn the call to Jason, let me begin with the first pillar, enhancing our platform to improve customer and developer Our product team continues to grow and mature, and we're seeing positive changes in terms of the rigor and discipline, And perhaps most importantly, our customer stickiness and engagement as seen in our payback improvements. To this end, to name a few of the product initiatives we achieved over the quarter. We launched and scaled new limited time challenges, which have driven improvements in paying user behavior. Speaker 200:02:33We also launched a new play screen user interface resulting in positive trends in pro tournaments engagement as well as pro retention. For developers, we rolled out the Skills Discord server to enhance community support. We updated the SDK release process to provide Greater clarity to all releases, including OTA. And we added site instrumentation to enhance usage insights inside of our developer console. Speaker 100:03:01This brings me Speaker 200:03:02to our 2nd pillar, up leveling our organization. We made a lot of progress in reshaping the organization to fuel growth and innovation. We're really excited to welcome Ellie Ryu, our new Controller and Global Head of Accounting. She's joining our staff and Has already made a significant impact in upgrading our accounting team's talent. It has been challenging to be sure. Speaker 200:03:24And in some cases, we found that we don't have the right talent to guest through the hurdles ahead and back to the growth we believe we can achieve. In these cases, we're taking quick action to ensure the organization is not further taxed and that we can place the right people into the right roles. A majority of the Skills employees that joined last fall are now fully up to speed, which is really exciting to report and it's gratifying to see. As you'd expect, it's making a huge difference in the morale and productivity of our team. We're continuing to add more key hires and multiple experienced engineering to support our product initiatives along with 2 new experienced board members amongst others that I won't name now for the sake of brevity. Speaker 200:04:08We still have some hiring to do to round out our organization, but we're feeling good about the changes we've made and the future of the team. 3rd, let me talk about our pillar of improving our go to market. In the quarter, our payback period continued to improve and our user acquisition cost With the lowest it's been since 2020, reinforcing that our strategic focus is working. As such, we began skilling marketing. We are ensuring optimal ROI and a continued improvement in payback. Speaker 200:04:41This improvement in payback has been significant over the last three quarters And we have line of sight to get payback back to best in class of 6 months or less within the next three quarters. Having said that, PMOW or paying monthly active users continues to decline quarter over quarter as we've reported. In terms of our developer community, our team focused our energy in the Q1 and preparing for a transition to our new developer revenue share model. As planned, the new model launched at the beginning of May, and we'll provide more details during our Q2 earnings call about the impact of that on our business. We believe this is the first part of meaningful steps forward to building our relations with the developer community. Speaker 200:05:26That said, We're very excited about the opportunity for existing developers to increase their revenue share by driving more traffic to the platform. Last but not least, our 4th pillar, demonstrating a clear path to profitability. I'll let Jason talk more about our numbers, but we'll share that we continue to make progress here and intend to continue progressing through 2023. As we thoughtfully consider each and every investment with the goal of adjusted EBITDA positive by the end of 2024. As expected, our losses in the Q1 were greater than Q4. Speaker 200:06:02Historically, we've always increased spend in our business in Q1 over Q4. However, I do want to note 2 specific variances that we do not anticipate will incur in future quarters. Specifically, we spent $3,200,000 on operational consulting services for turning around our business, and we spent $3,000,000 for accounting advisory In preparation of our 10 ks filing. We anticipate being able to handle these functions in house going forward. Finally, we recorded $2,800,000 more for our bonus accruals in Q1 compared to Q4 as we didn't achieve our bonus targets for 2022. Speaker 200:06:41In short, there are many reasons to be cautiously optimistic within our company about what's happening. However, we need to acknowledge that there's still a lot of work ahead of us. We have to remain cautiously optimistic about our direction to keep putting one foot in front of another as we make the changes that are necessary to drive the achievements we want to see in the future of our business. We're intensely focused on the 4 pillars that I've named, and we are committed to returning shareholder value over the long term. We'll continue to be transparent with you to build shareholder trust. Speaker 200:07:20And with that, I'll turn the call over to Jason to discuss our numbers. Speaker 300:07:25Thanks, Andrew. Revenue in the Q1 was $44,400,000 down 52% year over year And down 5% sequentially. Our payer conversion rate, which is our paying MAU divided by our MAU was 18% in the quarter. 1st quarter user acquisition marketing was $8,400,000 a decrease of 86% year over year and down 11% sequentially As we continue to improve lower our payback period and user acquisition costs. Q1 engagement marketing was $17,600,000 Down 59% year over year and down 11% quarter over quarter. Speaker 300:08:08Research and development was $8,900,000 in the quarter, Down 52% year over year. On a non GAAP basis, R and D was 17% of quarterly revenue. Q1 sales and marketing was $34,900,000 down 70% year over year. This includes $1,900,000 of stock based compensation. On a non GAAP basis, sales and marketing was 74% of Q1 revenue, down 50 percentage points year over year And up 4 percentage points quarter over quarter. Speaker 300:08:43Q1 general and administrative expense was 28,000,000 Down 70% year over year. This includes $7,400,000 in stock based compensation. On a non GAAP basis, Q1 G and A was 46% of revenue, up 25 percentage points year over year. On a sequential basis, G and A was up 13 percentage points as a percent of revenue. Net loss of $35,600,000 Decreased $114,000,000 year over year and decreased $107,400,000 or 75 percent sequentially for the Q1. Speaker 300:09:24Q1 adjusted EBITDA was negative $20,900,000 Down 67% year over year and up 121% sequentially. Q1 adjusted EBITDA margin of negative 47% Was down 21 percentage points year over year and up 27 percentage points sequentially. We ended the quarter with $521,000,000 of cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities and $273,600,000 of debt outstanding. With that, I'll turn it over to Andrew for closing comments. Speaker 200:10:02Thanks, Jason. To note, as we disclosed in April, we repurchased approximately $160,000,000 of our outstanding debt obligations. This will have a nearly $60,000,000 positive impact for us over the next 3.5 years. It's an incredibly material development to extending our runway To fix our business to revert it to the growth engine, then 2017 caused us to win the Inc. 5,000 as America's fastest growing private company. Speaker 200:10:30Thank you all again for taking the time to join us today. We look forward to providing updates throughout the year on our progress of returning skills to sustained profitable growth. Operator00:10:48We will now begin the question and answer The first question we have comes from Jason Silken from Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:11:14Great. Thanks for taking the question. 2, if I can. The first, just wondering if you could maybe just talk for a minute about The concentration of the user base around some of the top gains in the platform today versus where it was prior to The strategy to sort of reduce marketing and engagement spend. And then I Speaker 300:11:33have a follow-up from there. Thanks. Speaker 200:11:38Thanks, Jason. This is Andrew Paradise. I was going to turn it over to Jason Brodsley, who I think would be best to comment on that. Speaker 300:11:50Thanks, Jason. I would mention that our Concentration has been relatively consistent over time. It has been about 80% now consistently for this quarter and last quarter. I would note that our intent with Speaker 200:12:07our new Speaker 300:12:07standardized developer revenue share model is to bring new content onto the platform over time And continue to diversify that number. Speaker 200:12:19Great. And just sort of Speaker 400:12:20on the same topic, As it relates to sort of ongoing efforts to sort of expand the genres on the platform, can you talk about some of the initiatives that are In place there and where that stands and maybe, any updates on sort of engagement with the NFL games and other sort of recent partnerships that you had over the past few quarters? Thanks. Speaker 200:12:41Sure. So just one thing I wanted to add also on concentration. We've always seen concentration in the top few games. Like other media platforms, I can maybe draw an analogy here to something like HBO when Game of Thrones was The most popular show on HBO, where they probably saw the majority of usage being watching that show. So I I don't think we anticipate that in the future that there won't always be some level of concentration in the top one or few Pieces of content on the platform. Speaker 200:13:20In terms of expanding genres, so we did the deal with I see games to integrate the Photon multiplayer engine, so that we could have more sophisticated multiplayer games on the platform Really move out of asynchronous video games like Solitaire, Cube or Blackout Bingo into more sophisticated games. First, turn based genres. So we have games like Domino's Gold that are now running turn based Playing Domino's, if you'd like. You can imagine all the other different turn based games potentially being moving on to the platform over time. As we really saw a significant disparity between our form of monetization, So skill based gaming monetization versus IP and ads with the old revenue share model. Speaker 200:14:14And what I mean by that is Both with ads and in app purchasing, they provide the developers with real time revenue reporting. The way we ran and built this business It's very much from my background as a person building and inventing in the payments industry. So we pioneered the space. We set up Our revenue share with the developers in the same way that our business makes money, which our business, as you may know, we take in the deposit from a user. We actually don't recognize revenue from that deposit until the user enters into competitions using that deposit. Speaker 200:14:50The user may receive Promotional currency against that deposit, they also may withdraw that deposit, in which in each of those things actually are not Revenue recognition for us. It's only when they're entering into competition that's generating exit fees, where we actually apply a take rate. So when we go to share money with the developers historically, we would share it was so called a revenue share, but it was effectively And net profit share on each team. And the issue with that is given that we're running payment processing and these incentive systems for users To store account balances that actually are not revenue, we were only able to effectively calculate Their share of the profits once a month. With the new developer revenue share that we launched on May 1 actually, What we are doing is we're actually sharing a percentage of gross revenue. Speaker 200:15:46So actually sharing a percentage of the entry fees of the developers. And that revenue share starts at 3.75 percent of the of every dollar of entry fees and it scales upwards As the developer drives more traffic to the network. The reasons so one of the huge benefits of this and we've actually already launched The developer analytics now that give them real time revenue porting, it really puts us on parity with other ways the developer can monetize their games through in app purchasing or ads. So they have the same level of data and ability to use that data to drive machine learning algorithms on DSPs or demand side platforms, Just one of the primary ways that games in our industry are advertised. Separately, this really unlocks Bigger developers from coming online, being first mover and driving a lot of traffic. Speaker 200:16:41And we think As we continue to evolve the platform for this year, this is one of the critical steps to getting far more games onto the platform In far more genres. Speaker 400:16:57Great. That was really helpful. And maybe just one more quick one, if I can. Last year, the conversion rate of paying users from the total MAU peaked at sort of low 19% range And sort of finding out here around 18%. I'm just curious with the new strategy with lower engagement marketing spend and focus on more efficient programs there, where you see That conversion rate pending over time. Speaker 200:17:25Sure. And maybe I can this is Andrew talking Again, maybe I can turn it over to Casey Chafkin, our Chief Strategy Officer, to talk a little bit about that. Speaker 500:17:36Sure. And thank you for the continued engagement, Jason. From a conversion perspective, Lowering engagement marketing is decreases the incentive for potentially for new users to convert into paying users, But increases the profitability on those users that we generate. And so in terms of our paying DAU versus our playing DAU, We expect that to remain relatively stable and potentially increase a little bit As we continue to decrease marketing spend and have more mature users on the platform. Speaker 400:18:18Great. Thank Operator00:18:23you. There are no further questions. So I will turn the call back to Andrew Paradise. Speaker 200:18:32Okay. Thank you everyone for tuning in today to listen to our earnings call. I will look forward to reporting on progress with the next quarter. I think we are Not out of the woods yet in terms of turning around and really rebooting the operations for our business. But I think I would message, as I said earlier, Cautious optimism that we're making headway. Speaker 200:18:54Thank you for the time and we'll talk to you then. Operator00:19:00That concludes the conference call. Thank you for your participation and enjoy the rest of your day. 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There are 6 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good afternoon. Welcome to Skillz First Quarter 2023 Conference Call. I will now turn the call over to Susan Swanson for opening remarks. Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:16Good afternoon, and welcome to the SKILLS First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. With me today are Andrew Paradis, SKILLS' CEO Casey Chafkin, CSO and Jason Roslick, President and CFO. Note, our full financial results will be published tomorrow and will be available in our Investor Relations website. Before I turn the call over to Andrew, please note that some of our management's comments today will include forward facing statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. Forward looking statements, which are usually identified by the use of words such as will, expect, should or other similar phrases are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause Our actual results to differ materially from what we expect. Speaker 100:00:55Therefore, you should exercise caution in interpreting and relying on them. We refer you to these company's SEC filings for a more detailed discussion of the risks that could impact future operating results and financial condition. During the call, management will discuss non GAAP measures, which we believe can be useful in evaluating the company's operating performance. These measures should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for financial results prepared in accordance with GAAP. A reconciliation of these measures in the most directly comparable GAAP measures is available in our Q1 2023 earnings release. Speaker 100:01:26With that, I'll turn the call over to Andrew for some brief opening remarks before we open the call for questions. Andrew? Speaker 200:01:32Thank you, Susan, and to all of you for joining the call. In the Q1, we continued to make progress on the 4 strategic pillars that we laid out last year, While we continue to navigate difficult demand in macro environments, we're cautiously optimistic about the progress we're making And also want to be honest with our shareholders and ourselves that we're in the middle of tremendous change and it'd be premature to say we're out of the woods. To briefly review the quarter before I turn the call to Jason, let me begin with the first pillar, enhancing our platform to improve customer and developer Our product team continues to grow and mature, and we're seeing positive changes in terms of the rigor and discipline, And perhaps most importantly, our customer stickiness and engagement as seen in our payback improvements. To this end, to name a few of the product initiatives we achieved over the quarter. We launched and scaled new limited time challenges, which have driven improvements in paying user behavior. Speaker 200:02:33We also launched a new play screen user interface resulting in positive trends in pro tournaments engagement as well as pro retention. For developers, we rolled out the Skills Discord server to enhance community support. We updated the SDK release process to provide Greater clarity to all releases, including OTA. And we added site instrumentation to enhance usage insights inside of our developer console. Speaker 100:03:01This brings me Speaker 200:03:02to our 2nd pillar, up leveling our organization. We made a lot of progress in reshaping the organization to fuel growth and innovation. We're really excited to welcome Ellie Ryu, our new Controller and Global Head of Accounting. She's joining our staff and Has already made a significant impact in upgrading our accounting team's talent. It has been challenging to be sure. Speaker 200:03:24And in some cases, we found that we don't have the right talent to guest through the hurdles ahead and back to the growth we believe we can achieve. In these cases, we're taking quick action to ensure the organization is not further taxed and that we can place the right people into the right roles. A majority of the Skills employees that joined last fall are now fully up to speed, which is really exciting to report and it's gratifying to see. As you'd expect, it's making a huge difference in the morale and productivity of our team. We're continuing to add more key hires and multiple experienced engineering to support our product initiatives along with 2 new experienced board members amongst others that I won't name now for the sake of brevity. Speaker 200:04:08We still have some hiring to do to round out our organization, but we're feeling good about the changes we've made and the future of the team. 3rd, let me talk about our pillar of improving our go to market. In the quarter, our payback period continued to improve and our user acquisition cost With the lowest it's been since 2020, reinforcing that our strategic focus is working. As such, we began skilling marketing. We are ensuring optimal ROI and a continued improvement in payback. Speaker 200:04:41This improvement in payback has been significant over the last three quarters And we have line of sight to get payback back to best in class of 6 months or less within the next three quarters. Having said that, PMOW or paying monthly active users continues to decline quarter over quarter as we've reported. In terms of our developer community, our team focused our energy in the Q1 and preparing for a transition to our new developer revenue share model. As planned, the new model launched at the beginning of May, and we'll provide more details during our Q2 earnings call about the impact of that on our business. We believe this is the first part of meaningful steps forward to building our relations with the developer community. Speaker 200:05:26That said, We're very excited about the opportunity for existing developers to increase their revenue share by driving more traffic to the platform. Last but not least, our 4th pillar, demonstrating a clear path to profitability. I'll let Jason talk more about our numbers, but we'll share that we continue to make progress here and intend to continue progressing through 2023. As we thoughtfully consider each and every investment with the goal of adjusted EBITDA positive by the end of 2024. As expected, our losses in the Q1 were greater than Q4. Speaker 200:06:02Historically, we've always increased spend in our business in Q1 over Q4. However, I do want to note 2 specific variances that we do not anticipate will incur in future quarters. Specifically, we spent $3,200,000 on operational consulting services for turning around our business, and we spent $3,000,000 for accounting advisory In preparation of our 10 ks filing. We anticipate being able to handle these functions in house going forward. Finally, we recorded $2,800,000 more for our bonus accruals in Q1 compared to Q4 as we didn't achieve our bonus targets for 2022. Speaker 200:06:41In short, there are many reasons to be cautiously optimistic within our company about what's happening. However, we need to acknowledge that there's still a lot of work ahead of us. We have to remain cautiously optimistic about our direction to keep putting one foot in front of another as we make the changes that are necessary to drive the achievements we want to see in the future of our business. We're intensely focused on the 4 pillars that I've named, and we are committed to returning shareholder value over the long term. We'll continue to be transparent with you to build shareholder trust. Speaker 200:07:20And with that, I'll turn the call over to Jason to discuss our numbers. Speaker 300:07:25Thanks, Andrew. Revenue in the Q1 was $44,400,000 down 52% year over year And down 5% sequentially. Our payer conversion rate, which is our paying MAU divided by our MAU was 18% in the quarter. 1st quarter user acquisition marketing was $8,400,000 a decrease of 86% year over year and down 11% sequentially As we continue to improve lower our payback period and user acquisition costs. Q1 engagement marketing was $17,600,000 Down 59% year over year and down 11% quarter over quarter. Speaker 300:08:08Research and development was $8,900,000 in the quarter, Down 52% year over year. On a non GAAP basis, R and D was 17% of quarterly revenue. Q1 sales and marketing was $34,900,000 down 70% year over year. This includes $1,900,000 of stock based compensation. On a non GAAP basis, sales and marketing was 74% of Q1 revenue, down 50 percentage points year over year And up 4 percentage points quarter over quarter. Speaker 300:08:43Q1 general and administrative expense was 28,000,000 Down 70% year over year. This includes $7,400,000 in stock based compensation. On a non GAAP basis, Q1 G and A was 46% of revenue, up 25 percentage points year over year. On a sequential basis, G and A was up 13 percentage points as a percent of revenue. Net loss of $35,600,000 Decreased $114,000,000 year over year and decreased $107,400,000 or 75 percent sequentially for the Q1. Speaker 300:09:24Q1 adjusted EBITDA was negative $20,900,000 Down 67% year over year and up 121% sequentially. Q1 adjusted EBITDA margin of negative 47% Was down 21 percentage points year over year and up 27 percentage points sequentially. We ended the quarter with $521,000,000 of cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities and $273,600,000 of debt outstanding. With that, I'll turn it over to Andrew for closing comments. Speaker 200:10:02Thanks, Jason. To note, as we disclosed in April, we repurchased approximately $160,000,000 of our outstanding debt obligations. This will have a nearly $60,000,000 positive impact for us over the next 3.5 years. It's an incredibly material development to extending our runway To fix our business to revert it to the growth engine, then 2017 caused us to win the Inc. 5,000 as America's fastest growing private company. Speaker 200:10:30Thank you all again for taking the time to join us today. We look forward to providing updates throughout the year on our progress of returning skills to sustained profitable growth. Operator00:10:48We will now begin the question and answer The first question we have comes from Jason Silken from Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:11:14Great. Thanks for taking the question. 2, if I can. The first, just wondering if you could maybe just talk for a minute about The concentration of the user base around some of the top gains in the platform today versus where it was prior to The strategy to sort of reduce marketing and engagement spend. And then I Speaker 300:11:33have a follow-up from there. Thanks. Speaker 200:11:38Thanks, Jason. This is Andrew Paradise. I was going to turn it over to Jason Brodsley, who I think would be best to comment on that. Speaker 300:11:50Thanks, Jason. I would mention that our Concentration has been relatively consistent over time. It has been about 80% now consistently for this quarter and last quarter. I would note that our intent with Speaker 200:12:07our new Speaker 300:12:07standardized developer revenue share model is to bring new content onto the platform over time And continue to diversify that number. Speaker 200:12:19Great. And just sort of Speaker 400:12:20on the same topic, As it relates to sort of ongoing efforts to sort of expand the genres on the platform, can you talk about some of the initiatives that are In place there and where that stands and maybe, any updates on sort of engagement with the NFL games and other sort of recent partnerships that you had over the past few quarters? Thanks. Speaker 200:12:41Sure. So just one thing I wanted to add also on concentration. We've always seen concentration in the top few games. Like other media platforms, I can maybe draw an analogy here to something like HBO when Game of Thrones was The most popular show on HBO, where they probably saw the majority of usage being watching that show. So I I don't think we anticipate that in the future that there won't always be some level of concentration in the top one or few Pieces of content on the platform. Speaker 200:13:20In terms of expanding genres, so we did the deal with I see games to integrate the Photon multiplayer engine, so that we could have more sophisticated multiplayer games on the platform Really move out of asynchronous video games like Solitaire, Cube or Blackout Bingo into more sophisticated games. First, turn based genres. So we have games like Domino's Gold that are now running turn based Playing Domino's, if you'd like. You can imagine all the other different turn based games potentially being moving on to the platform over time. As we really saw a significant disparity between our form of monetization, So skill based gaming monetization versus IP and ads with the old revenue share model. Speaker 200:14:14And what I mean by that is Both with ads and in app purchasing, they provide the developers with real time revenue reporting. The way we ran and built this business It's very much from my background as a person building and inventing in the payments industry. So we pioneered the space. We set up Our revenue share with the developers in the same way that our business makes money, which our business, as you may know, we take in the deposit from a user. We actually don't recognize revenue from that deposit until the user enters into competitions using that deposit. Speaker 200:14:50The user may receive Promotional currency against that deposit, they also may withdraw that deposit, in which in each of those things actually are not Revenue recognition for us. It's only when they're entering into competition that's generating exit fees, where we actually apply a take rate. So when we go to share money with the developers historically, we would share it was so called a revenue share, but it was effectively And net profit share on each team. And the issue with that is given that we're running payment processing and these incentive systems for users To store account balances that actually are not revenue, we were only able to effectively calculate Their share of the profits once a month. With the new developer revenue share that we launched on May 1 actually, What we are doing is we're actually sharing a percentage of gross revenue. Speaker 200:15:46So actually sharing a percentage of the entry fees of the developers. And that revenue share starts at 3.75 percent of the of every dollar of entry fees and it scales upwards As the developer drives more traffic to the network. The reasons so one of the huge benefits of this and we've actually already launched The developer analytics now that give them real time revenue porting, it really puts us on parity with other ways the developer can monetize their games through in app purchasing or ads. So they have the same level of data and ability to use that data to drive machine learning algorithms on DSPs or demand side platforms, Just one of the primary ways that games in our industry are advertised. Separately, this really unlocks Bigger developers from coming online, being first mover and driving a lot of traffic. Speaker 200:16:41And we think As we continue to evolve the platform for this year, this is one of the critical steps to getting far more games onto the platform In far more genres. Speaker 400:16:57Great. That was really helpful. And maybe just one more quick one, if I can. Last year, the conversion rate of paying users from the total MAU peaked at sort of low 19% range And sort of finding out here around 18%. I'm just curious with the new strategy with lower engagement marketing spend and focus on more efficient programs there, where you see That conversion rate pending over time. Speaker 200:17:25Sure. And maybe I can this is Andrew talking Again, maybe I can turn it over to Casey Chafkin, our Chief Strategy Officer, to talk a little bit about that. Speaker 500:17:36Sure. And thank you for the continued engagement, Jason. From a conversion perspective, Lowering engagement marketing is decreases the incentive for potentially for new users to convert into paying users, But increases the profitability on those users that we generate. And so in terms of our paying DAU versus our playing DAU, We expect that to remain relatively stable and potentially increase a little bit As we continue to decrease marketing spend and have more mature users on the platform. Speaker 400:18:18Great. Thank Operator00:18:23you. There are no further questions. So I will turn the call back to Andrew Paradise. Speaker 200:18:32Okay. Thank you everyone for tuning in today to listen to our earnings call. I will look forward to reporting on progress with the next quarter. I think we are Not out of the woods yet in terms of turning around and really rebooting the operations for our business. But I think I would message, as I said earlier, Cautious optimism that we're making headway. Speaker 200:18:54Thank you for the time and we'll talk to you then. Operator00:19:00That concludes the conference call. Thank you for your participation and enjoy the rest of your day. You may now disconnect your line.Read moreRemove AdsPowered by