Smartsheet Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

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June 7, 2023

There are 14 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Smartsheet First Quarter Fiscal 20 24 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode and please be advised that this call is being recorded. After the speakers' prepared remarks, there will be a question and answer session. And now at this time, I would like to turn things over to Mr. Aaron Turner, Head of Investor Relations.

Operator

Please go ahead, sir.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Bo. Good afternoon, and welcome, everyone, to Smartsheet's Q1 fiscal year 2024 earnings call. We will be discussing the results announced in our press release issued after the market closed today. With me today are Smartsheet's CEO, Mark Mader and our CFO, Pete Godbold. Today's call is being webcast and will also be available for replay on our Investor relations website at investors.

Speaker 1

Smartsheet.com. There is a slide presentation that accompanies Pete's prepared remarks, which can be viewed in the Events section of our Investor Relations website. During this call, we will make forward looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. We have based these forward looking statements largely on our current expectations and projections about future events and financial trends. These forward looking statements are subject to a number of risks and other factors, including, but not limited to, those described in our SEC filings available on our Investor Relations website and on the SEC website at www.sec.gov.

Speaker 1

Although we believe that the expectations reflected in the forward looking statements are reasonable, Our actual results may differ materially and or adversely. All forward looking statements made during this call are based on information available to us as of today. We do not assume any obligation to update these statements as a result of new information or future events except as required by law. In addition to the U. S.

Speaker 1

GAAP Financials, we will discuss certain non GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation to the most directly comparable U. S. GAAP measures available in the presentation that accompanies this call, which can also be found on our Investor Relations website. And with that, let me turn the call over to Mark.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Erinn, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to our Q1 earnings call for fiscal year 2024. While Pete will provide additional details, I'd like to highlight a few areas of our Q1 performance and share continued progress in our leadership of the enterprise collaborative work management market. Smartsheet revenue for the quarter exceeded our guidance and grew by 31% year over year to $219,900,000 and billings grew 20% year over year to $215,500,000 In Q1, we generated non GAAP operating margins of 10%, more than double the high end of our guidance range and free cash flow was $31,300,000 We ended the quarter with annual recurring revenue of $886,000,000 and more than 12,800,000 Smartsheet users. We continue to see strength with our larger customers with 59 customers expanding their Smartsheet investment by more than $100,000 188 companies expanding it by over $50,000 in Q1.

Speaker 2

These expansions contributed to a net addition of 85 customers in our greater than $100,000 ACV customer cohort. Enterprise expansions for the quarter included Eli Lilly, Motorola Solutions, Foxtel and Novocure among others. And we saw new customer wins at companies such as Liberty Media, Hostess Brands and 811 Group. We also saw strength in our portfolio of capabilities based products and our Advanced offering with 143 customers either purchasing Advanced for the first time or upgrading to a higher tier. Additionally, we are on track to launch the self discovery of 2 of our most popular capabilities at the end of Q2.

Speaker 2

This will lower the friction required for our customers to experience these products, which should result in a faster time to value for our customers as well as for our sales team. A leading financial services company upgraded to Advanced Platinum this quarter. This meaningful expansion was driven by employee demand for our core platform as well as the premium security and governance capabilities they received with Advanced Platinum. Over the past year, their user growth has increased 52% and they have created nearly 180 percent more work apps, 240 percent more data shuttle workflows. And the company's marketing department is now transitioning from another CWM platform to Smartsheet.

Speaker 2

In addition to the momentum we've seen with Advance and our premium capabilities, we're seeing significant traction with our new free plan. In Q1, we launched our free plan worldwide and the initial results are promising with high engagement and conversion to paid in every customer size segment. These free engaged users should be an impactful component of our user acquisition strategy going forward. We continue to win due to Smartsheet's position as Enterprise CWM platform that enables organizations to effectively track and manage 3 critical dimensions of work: people, content and the work itself. The people dimension reflects the deployment, assignment and capacity planning of those engaged in the execution of work.

Speaker 2

Content represents the videos, images, documents and other assets that are inputs or outputs of the work being done. And work is the information about day to day activities, milestones and workflows that underpin an organization's projects, programs and processes. By connecting these three distinct dimensions of work, the Smartsheet enterprise platform enables customers to drive efficiencies across their entire Smartsheet ecosystem and allows them to expand value of the platform to their partners and customers. For example, one of the world's largest retailers is using Smartsheet to Connect work and people management to unlock value. Nearly a dozen business units across 5 countries are using Smartsheet to manage their portfolios and resource management to help them more accurately staff projects.

Speaker 2

This tighter alignment between managing work and people allows this retailer to adapt quickly to the changing project needs and gives them new insights into their team's capacity and performance. And a large online travel company chose Smartsheet over other CWM solutions because of our ability to help them comprehensively connect the three dimensions of work. The company's global marketing department is going through a major transformation and adding a significant number of employees this year. The combination of our core offering, resource management and brand folder will help them manage the transition, establish a new unified process for managing campaigns start to finish and ensure leadership has the right level of insight across the company's brands, products and programs. They see Smartsheet as an essential way to scale as their department grows, ultimately helping them achieve their marketing goals.

Speaker 2

To further support our large customers, we continue to make investments in scalability of our platform, greatly improving sheet performance, formula execution and cross sheet data processing. While every user benefits from these enhancements, they are especially valuable to portfolio managers and their teams using Control Center. We've enabled Control Center to support thousands of parallel projects already and we're on track to be able to support tens of thousands of projects per control center instance by the end of the fiscal year. And we look forward to sharing more about how we lead the category in scale and manageability at our Engage customer conference in September. Furthermore, we've seen a major increase in data being transferred from other systems to Smartsheet with Data Shuttle.

Speaker 2

In Q1 of last year, Data Shuttle ran about 25,000,000 workflows importing and exporting customer data. And in Q1 of this year, we to over 53,000,000 workflows transferring tens of billions of rows of data. Additionally, we have added unified login support in Bridge, up level administration capabilities for Data Shuttle and Data Table and doubled the bridge workflow scale to support customer demand. We've expanded our content automation offering for our brand folder product with a leading self serve templating capability. This is the result of the successful integration of our acquisition of Outfit, which is enabling customers to innovate faster in content production and distribution at scale.

Speaker 2

We continue to make improvements in our dashboard capabilities. 100 of thousands of licensed users create dashboards to inform stakeholders and drive positive outcomes by centralizing, organizing and presenting real time data and statuses on a customizable canvas. We've also introduced policy controls for cross functional collaboration and launched the Plant Insights dashboard, which gives customers a live view of the value they derive from Smartsheet. We're experiencing a significant moment for our industry, our customers and our company. Generative AI or Gen AI tools and technologies are rapidly evolving.

Speaker 2

The way that work gets done from insights to can change materially as a result of GenAI, and we are using it internally and actively developing features to benefit our customers. We believe these changes will create new higher value work for people, opening up opportunities for innovation and more impactful work. On the product side, we continue to make progress on expanding the AI based capabilities on our platform and are well positioned to enable valuable customer use cases. This year, we have focused investments in 3 areas of GenAI that will help our customers work smarter, faster and more effectively. The first is an intelligent assistant that allows users to quickly find answers that help best use, configure and extend Smartsheet.

Speaker 2

The in app assistant will help customers with everything ranging from early product discovery to understanding the full impact of the Smartsheet platform across sheets, dashboards, reports, automations, work apps and more. This will drive adoption of additional capabilities and enhance the overall Smartsheet experience for our users. 2nd, project and portfolio intelligence. By harnessing the power of large language models, we will further differentiate by allowing users to leverage data within their sheets and use natural language to generate charts and calculate key metrics that they can save to their dashboards with a click of a button. These features combined with Control Center's portfolio capability to quickly absorb data across thousands of active projects to provide portfolio wide key metrics, trends and actionable insights.

Speaker 2

And third is image manipulation, auto generation of video captions and image descriptions. Brandfolder can auto generate image descriptions and video captions and detect various elements within an image. This makes for easy Language searches and also allows users to separate foreground and background elements to remove or replace them. Brandfolder will be able to comb terabytes of customer specific content to bring customers high value capabilities that train AI models and generate content that is unique to their brand. As our customers experience the value of our Gen AI features, we intend to pursue multiple monetization avenues.

Speaker 2

Our premium features will serve as a catalyst to compel customers to consider moving to a higher tier of licensing. For these Premium Gen AI capabilities, we plan to provide a base tier of consumption beyond which greater volumes can also be purchased. Additionally, we see this as a mechanism to drive user licensing as some AI features will be only available for licensed users. Select customers will be invited to experience our GenAI features in beta next month with broader enrollment planned after our customer conference in September. While we have not built any material contributions from JanaeI into guidance for this fiscal year, we do anticipate additional revenue opportunities in FY 2025.

Speaker 2

In closing, as a company approaching $1,000,000,000 in ARR, we are optimistic about fiscal year 2024 and beyond. As the leader in enterprise collaborative work management, we will continue to thoughtfully invest in our platform, go to market initiatives and Gen AI to capitalize on the sizable market opportunity in front of us. Now let me turn the call over to Pete.

Speaker 3

Pete? Thank you, Mark. As Mark mentioned, we exceeded our Q1 revenue guidance and delivered Q1 non GAAP operating margin of 10%, more than double the high end of our guidance range, showing the strength of our business model. However, the macro environment remains challenging, the effects of which are most pronounced in our higher velocity transactional opportunities that are often associated with our SMB and mid market customers. We also see the macro impacting the length of sales cycles for our larger opportunities and the demand environment for our marketing solutions.

Speaker 3

Consistent with our approach from previous quarters, we are expecting to remain conservative with respect to our full year guidance. With that said, Mark mentioned a number of areas that would support our growth this year and beyond, including healthy demand for our capability based products, our newly introduced free plan and the self discovery and usage of capabilities. Additionally, we are making marketing investments that we to generate a contribution in the second half of this year. I will now go through our financial results for the Q1. Unless otherwise stated, all references to our expenses and operating results are on a non GAAP basis and are reconciled to our GAAP results in the earnings release and presentation that was posted before the call.

Speaker 3

1st quarter revenue came in at $219,900,000 up 31% year over year. Subscription revenue was $206,000,000 representing year over year growth of 33%. Services revenue was $13,900,000 representing year over year growth of 7%. Revenue from capabilities grew 60% year over year and made up 33% of subscription revenue, up from 27% of revenue in Q1 of last year. Turning to billings.

Speaker 3

1st quarter billings came in at $215,500,000 representing year over year growth of 20%. Approximately 93% of subscription billings were annual with 4% monthly. Quarterly and semi annual represented approximately 3% of the total. Multi year billings represented less than 1% of total billings. Moving on to our reported metrics.

Speaker 3

The number of customers with ARR over $50,000 grew 33% year over year to 3,343. And the number of customers with AR over $100,000 grew 42% year over year to 1569. These customer segments now represent 63% 49%, respectively of total ARR. The percentage of our ARR coming from customers with ARR over $5,000 is now 90%. Next, our domain average ACV grew 18% year over year to $8,520 We ended the quarter with a dollar based net retention rate encompassing all of our customers at 123%.

Speaker 3

The full churn rate remains below 4%. We continue to expect our dollar based net retention rate to trend lower into the high teens by the end of the year. Now turning back to the financials. Our total gross margin was 82%. Our Q1 subscription gross margin was 86%.

Speaker 3

We expect our gross margin for FY 2024 to remain above 80%. Overall operating income in the quarter was $22,800,000 or 10% of revenue, which represents a 6 percentage point Sequential margin improvement. For modeling purposes, we expect our Q2 and Q3 operating margins to be lower due to the timing of hiring, incremental marketing campaigns and our Engage conference. We expect the operating margin to expand sequentially from Q3 to Q4. Free cash flow in the quarter was $31,300,000 Now let me move on to guidance.

Speaker 3

For the Q2 of FY 'twenty four, we expect revenue to be in the range of $228,000,000 to $231,000,000 and non GAAP operating income to be in the range of $7,000,000 to $9,000,000 We expect non GAAP net income per share to be $0.07 to $0.08 based on diluted weighted average shares outstanding of 138,500,000. For the full fiscal year, we are reiterating our revenue guidance of $943,000,000 to $948,000,000 representing growth of 23% to 24%. We expect services to be 6% of total revenue. We expect our non GAAP operating income to be in the range of $43,000,000 to $53,000,000 representing an operating margin of 5% to 6% and non GAAP net income per share to be $0.37 to $0.44 for the year based on 139,000,000 diluted weighted average shares outstanding. We are reiterating our FY 'twenty four billings growth of 20% and our free cash flow for FY 'twenty four of $110,000,000 Also for modeling purposes, we expect our Q2 billings to grow sequentially by around 6% and then accelerate sequentially from Q2 to Q3 and from Q3 to Q4.

Speaker 3

To conclude, we are in the early stages of a large enterprise collaborative work management market opportunity and investing appropriately to drive top line growth with a focus in efficiency. Our leading enterprise platform, Go to market strategy and focused execution, we believe will have a long runway of sustainable growth and margin expansion ahead. Now let me turn the call over to the operator. Operator?

Operator

Thank you, Mr. We'll take our first question this afternoon from Terry Tillman at Truist Securities.

Speaker 4

Yes. Thanks for taking my questions. I guess the first question for you Mark is the enterprise business does seem like it remains strong. I don't know how much we should Hanger had on kind of 100,000 ks ACV growth, but it was 42%. So not off much from last quarter.

Speaker 4

Is that a good proxy for the Enterprise business, do you expect that to stay above 40%? And we didn't get the benchmark on how many customers over $1,000,000 ACV, maybe you could help us on that? And then I had for Pete. Thank you.

Speaker 2

Hi, Terry. Yes, we did add $1,000,000 customers. We're at 47 right now. Terms of that being a proxy like 40, the over under on the 40, I would just say we continue to have very good engagement in these larger opportunities. We added net $85,000,000 over $100,000 this quarter.

Speaker 2

And when I look at what customers are looking for investing in platforms, It maps really well to the enterprise offering right now. They're looking for both productivity wins for their teams and then how do they climb the curve on things that are higher value. And those tie out really well. I talk about these three dimensions of work, right? The people, the content and the work.

Speaker 2

We have offerings in all three of those. Now what I will say is people are really trying to gain a high level of confidence before they make a buy decision. So as you map Two larger opportunities which are multifaceted. People are asking more questions, wanting to get more comfort and that does play out in an elongation. But I see the hand strengthening in that upper band.

Speaker 4

Okay. Duly noted. I guess the follow-up for Pete. You did maintain a 20% billings growth guidance for the year and you gave commentary that I don't think you typically do for each quarter in the progression, But you called out the higher velocity business being sluggish, sales cycle lengthening and then maybe some of these marketing related deals getting a bit tougher. I'm just trying to understand the puts and takes in terms of low level of conservatism in the 20% because those sound like things, I don't know if they're incrementally tougher dynamics that you called out, But then you have the free plan, you have the discovery dynamics starting at the end of 2Q.

Speaker 4

Just trying to understand how much kind of battle tested that 20%. Is it more conservative now? Is it about where it was? Just a little bit more on kind of risk mitigating the 20% billings? Thank you.

Speaker 3

So Terry, the two parts to your question are, one about how we've set the guide. It's a composite On sort of what I call the dynamics we saw in Q1, which there was some softness relative to our expectations, and I called out those areas for you. Our high velocity transactional business typically associated with our SMB and mid market customers. You'll remember the same thing happened during COVID when COVID hit us. So that transactional business was an impact area.

Speaker 3

We've seen the rest of our business perform according to our Expectation, which was based on what I call the macro that we expected to have worsened. What we did see is the lengthening of sales cycles. And what that means is When you think of that, that means more of our opportunities push into the back half of the year and that's consistent with the type of customers we work with, which are enterprise customers, which have generally more back end loaded budgets. So that's the reason why we've sort of given you the guide that says we're maintaining our guide on billings, It's a composite of those two effects and the timing of when deals happen.

Speaker 4

Duly noted. Thank you. Good luck.

Speaker 3

Great. Thanks, Jerry.

Operator

We'll go next now to Scott Berg at Needham.

Speaker 1

Hi, everyone. Congrats on the quarter and thanks for taking my questions. I guess as a follow-up to Terry's Last question there and Pete your answer. As enterprise software companies get larger and sell more to the enterprise, we typically see their businesses even more seasonally weighted towards the back half of

Speaker 2

the year. Do you think this

Speaker 1

is a 1 year phenomenon or something that you see Maybe more consistently going forward with these larger deals having that disposition in the second half of the year.

Speaker 3

So Scott, you're going to see that in the enterprise, we'll continue to get more back end loaded because that's the nature of enterprise budgets and enterprise cycles. But what you have to do is you have to overlay on that how the macro for a year plays out. A lot of companies are taking the approach of Planting their own budgets to be more back end loaded. So you're going to find that weight changes a little bit in how, what I call, companies are operating in the macro they're in.

Speaker 1

Got it. Helpful. And then, Mark, you spoke pretty positively on the traction within your Recently released 3 plan getting conversions across every customer segment. I guess how should we think about That opportunity contributing to bookings or billings this year, is this going to be a material driver for you? Or is this really about kind of seeding this Driving better opportunities into fiscal 2025.

Speaker 1

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Hi, Scott. I think it's a really important, what I call, sort of a seating exercise. When I think of where many of our new customers click in, it's at a fairly low level of contribution. But what was a really pleasant surprise was as we Launched this in the targeted region in the second half of last year. We were surprised to see that a meaningful percentage like north of a third of All organizations that were trialing free and operating in a free environment were companies over 10,000 employees in size.

Speaker 2

I mean, I would have not placed that bet going into this. That is a really encouraging stat. The second piece, which is encouraging, that The conversion rate of organizations who are in free exceeds the rate of conversion to paid that folks converting from trial. So we've unlocked this opportunity of there's a population of companies and people who want to be in the platform longer before making that decision. Seeing that rate higher than our trial conversion rate, very encouraging.

Speaker 2

And there are thousands of people coming and joining every We're talking hundreds of new logos that were added as paid customers in the last couple of months who otherwise wouldn't be with us today. So again, on a contribution like new bookings contribution, very small, like rounding air, but we know how it works, right? You get a 10,000 employee customer contributing a little bit. Look, 5 years down the road, they're a multimillion dollar customer. So that's it's really encouraging.

Speaker 2

So again, as we focus And I talked about this in the past earnings call. As we focus on excellence at the enterprise, it's paired with how do you lower the leading edge. And I think those will play out very well against each other over time.

Speaker 1

Great. That's Elias. Thanks for taking my questions.

Operator

We'll go next now to Brent Thill at Jefferies.

Speaker 5

Hi, thank you. This is John Beall on behalf of Brent Thill. Maybe 2 quick ones related to the environment. I'm wondering if you could share some more color on The linearity during the quarter, how things progressed in either in deal activity or billings and how it's looked so far 5, 6 weeks into Q2. And any color on verticals will be interesting.

Speaker 5

Thank you very much.

Speaker 3

So the way the quarter Shaped out for us is, it was significant contributions from our 2nd 3rd months. It sort of built up as we went through it. The close rates followed the seasonal patterns we have seen from the previous quarter. So you were seeing the close rates Sort of manifest themselves as we went and improved as we went through the quarter. And what we've seen for May is May looks very much like February in terms of close rates, the pipeline is higher, but we're seeing the same sort of deal dynamics with its associate Deal cycle elongation, deal compression, all of those are very much the same as they were in February, probably a tad bit worse.

Operator

Thank you. We go next now to John DiFucci at Guggenheim.

Speaker 6

Thank you. I have a question for Mark and then a follow-up for Pete. Mark, you're obviously seeing some effects on your business from the macro backdrop as just about everybody is. But your business has held up better for longer than others, at least From our calculations, it did. When you speak with customers, are you hearing anything different this quarter from previous quarter?

Speaker 6

Pete talked a little bit about Elongated sales cycles for the enterprise, but anything more? And are there any differences in the enterprise versus Dave, do you have for the SMB or the mid market?

Speaker 5

I think one of the things that's

Speaker 2

hi, John. One of the things that's worked well for us this past quarter, A couple of examples I shared during my remarks was evidence of companies looking to try and get more workloads over to Smartsheet. So we had one big travel company that was able to retire a different marketing system in favor of Smartsheet.

Speaker 5

So I think they view that as

Speaker 2

a double win, right? We get an app that our team is asking for. We're also able to consolidate, that's favorable for us. The themes haven't really changed though. People are looking to make The bigger the investment decision, the more confidence they want to have and the more they wanted to tie out to quantitative factors.

Speaker 2

So to what degree can you articulate the return on the dollar spend Beyond a qualitative factor, like we like the app or we feel more productive. I would say, if anything, it's maybe gotten a little bit Pronounced, but I wouldn't say a major deviation or change from the recent two quarters.

Speaker 6

Okay. Okay. Thank you. And Pete, I'm going to go back. I'm going to let other people ask the billings question because that's the one big question And a couple, but I'm going to ask something else.

Speaker 6

Free cash flow was really strong this quarter, especially In your case, it's interesting, right, because you're not a mature company, you're still growing a lot. There's a lot of opportunity And you're still increasing your scale. So how much of that growth or that strength in free cash flow has to do with Just the leverage in the software model, which we've talked about before is wonderful versus active management Of the business against sort of a tough macro backdrop. Can you sort of gauge that?

Speaker 3

Yes, I would say that The first factor, which is the national scale in the model is coming through. I think it's coming through loud and clear as you look at the ability to generate cash. We provided a guide for the Full year at $110,000,000 As you recall, that was up from, call it, sub $10,000,000 the previous year. So the natural scale in the model is playing through. We are making improvements in how we come up with that number outside the scale by being efficient.

Speaker 3

So when we talk about reducing Our operating expense for things which are not directly tied to revenue and making operations more streamlined using locations other than the expensive high cost locations we have, that's a part of it. I would High cost locations we have, that's a part of it. I would say both are significant contributors, but the business model is probably the predominant one.

Speaker 6

Okay, great. Thanks a lot guys.

Speaker 3

Of course, John.

Speaker 7

We'll go

Operator

next now to Ryan McWilliams at Barclays.

Speaker 5

Hey, thanks for taking the question.

Speaker 1

I know it's still early days on generative AI and I appreciate your early thoughts on how generative.ai could be added to your platform and to pricing, but any early thoughts around how you could add generative.ai or ChatGPT to some of your capability based offerings?

Speaker 5

Yes. I think one of

Speaker 2

the things that I spoke to in the remarks was how this analytics AI component that we're going to be releasing shortly, how that plays with Control Center, which is really the crown jewel of our capabilities offering. So Control Center is all about aggregating and scaling programs and projects. So the data sets are usually very large, Very often consistent, someone's trying to replicate a program broadly. And to understand the value of those programs, People build dashboards, they generate widgets, they ask questions against the data sets. And what's really promising about This one offering is that it dramatically drives down the cost of analysis.

Speaker 2

So I talked about 100 of thousands of people building dashboards and widgets. Today, you need to understand how to build a dashboard, how to create a widget, how to add trend, how to style it, all those things. You get to now ask a question. So if I reduce the cost of your question by 95%, I guarantee you will ask more questions. You will probably be more successful.

Speaker 2

You'll look better internally and you'll probably get budget next time you ask for it. So this is like it's one of these huge accelerants. When I saw this recently developed by our engineering team, I asked the question, could I ask you a question that you hadn't prepared for this demo? They said, sure, fire away. So I asked the question and within 10 seconds, my set of charts with the trend, with the specific filters applied was automatically done.

Speaker 2

That will play really well with customers. So we know there's a lot of intent already to want to answer these questions. When you pair that with an enabling technology that's easily understood. It doesn't require a lot of sales oversight or customer success oversight. So we will launch this with some beta customers next month ramping to our customer engaged conference.

Speaker 2

And I really believe when people see the return that it can provide, I think there'll be very significant appetite. So that's probably the one that's most clear. The other pieces around the assistant, When I think of 40% of all of our cases that come into our company being around advanced configuration, unlocking greater value on the things that are Unique to Smartsheet in terms of what we can pull off from a calculation standpoint, the round trip time on support will fall significantly. And the benefit to us, call deflection, the benefit of the customer in terms of getting your question answered quickly and correctly, those are really big deals. So It's difficult to quantify the benefit or the revenue opportunity for us thus far, but there's no confusion about whether this will add value.

Speaker 1

Hi, Gary. I think driving that knowledge worker productivity definitely accrues the software and efficiency. Just one for Pete, Were there any deals that slipped out of 1Q and closed in 2Q? And any early signs of stabilization within the higher velocity transactional opportunities you talked about? Thanks.

Speaker 3

So first of all, we always have to use the slip in the quarter to the next quarter. We've had consistent close rates on those deals. So the close rate is Sort of staying consistent. And as far as the other pieces, other part of your question, which is, are we seeing any trends emerge? There's nothing that's unusual.

Operator

Thank you. We'll go next now to George Iwanyc at Oppenheimer. And Mr. Iwanyc, your line is open, sir, if you do have a question. Thank you for taking my question.

Operator

Pete, Maybe can you give us some perspective on sales productivity with the challenges you're seeing in the macro environment? How are you

Speaker 3

So George, when we looked at sales productivity, As you look at the environment, we're seeing the sales productivity is reflected in that number. So we're seeing the productivity obviously decline as the macro impacts people's ability to close business. What we are finding is Our sales teams are generating opportunity at a brisk pace, including sometimes faster than earlier quarters. So pipeline builds are working. It's a close rate in the macro that's driving sales productivity lower than prior quarters.

Operator

All right. And then maybe you can build in on the marketing effort that you're planning for the second half of the year. Are those some new direct marketing efforts? Is this something with the ecosystem that you're planning and partners?

Speaker 3

So, George, we are Launching incremental marketing programs to drive to sort of what I call high value conversions And that is incremental to what we've done. So that should reflect itself in second half bookings. We're doing that in the back of Sort of very predictable cohorts that we've seen materialize with an approach that we've sort of been working on for the last quarter, which gives us confidence in our second half guide that we provided as well.

Speaker 8

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We go next now to Michael Berg at Wells Fargo.

Speaker 9

Hey, thanks for taking my question. Piggybacking off the margin, How can we think about any change in conservatism or assumptions baked into the margin guidance? Then I got a follow-up.

Speaker 3

So I think our margin guidance appropriately considers the investments we would like to make as well as our overall guide for the year. We feel confident With the $43,000,000 to $53,000,000 op margin guide we've provided, we raised it from the $35,000,000 to $45,000,000 which was there before, And we feel good about it. I think some of this is going to be about as early in the year and as the year progresses, we'll be making real time decisions on sort of how we invest while maintaining our guidance that we have at $43,000,000 to $53,000,000

Speaker 9

Great. Great. Helpful. And then the quick follow-up to that is, you mentioned that part of the outperformance on margins in the quarter was due Hiring, I guess, A, where are you on sales ramp or net new quota carrying rep hiring and Given what you're seeing in the macro, are there any changes to that? Or like you just said, that's going to be more of a real time decision?

Speaker 3

So our we've got some hiring, which is progressing through. It's not a large part of it on the sales side. We feel good about where we are in capacity. There will be some additions, but it's not anywhere near sort of where we've added in the last fiscal year. So that's a part of it.

Speaker 3

There's positions in R and D and other parts of the organization as well, which we're adding in, which are What I would call in a smaller nature of investment we're building in, we're not ramping our hiring engine till we see how the macro looks beyond that.

Speaker 10

Helpful. Thank you.

Speaker 3

Okay.

Operator

Thank you. We'll go next now to Alex Zukin at Wolfe Research.

Speaker 7

Hey, this is Ethan Burke on for Al Tukin. Thank you for taking my question. I guess I have 2 quick ones. One is Just help explain some of the difference in discrepancy between taking up the op margin guide and leaving the cash flow Unchanged for the year, is it just leaving some room for kind of investments? And then I guess the other one is just are you seeing kind of this kind of uptick in the free stuff The free offering is kind of a way natural way to shift go to market efforts to market to enterprise as like a potential upside to the margin targets for the year?

Speaker 7

Thank you.

Speaker 3

I didn't catch the first part of your question. It looked like you were asking about billings And free cash flow and the relationship, did I get you right?

Speaker 7

In terms of the full year guide, you guys took up the op margin guide slightly, but left Free cash flow unchanged for the year. Is that just kind of leaving room for it, I guess, to investing capacity in the back half as the main starts to pick up?

Speaker 3

So the off margin you should think of off margin and sort of revenue going together. So and you should think of billings and free cash flow working together. So we haven't changed our billings guide. We haven't changed our free cash flow guide from what we provided as an estimate. We haven't changed our revenue, But what we have passed through is the efficiencies we found and which we feel comfortable with, which we've moved through into the off margin incremental sort of guide we provided.

Speaker 7

That would be great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We go next now to Jacob Roberge at William Blair.

Speaker 8

Hey guys, thanks for taking my questions. Pete, just going back to the billings growth acceleration in the back half of the year, could you Talk about the confidence in that. It seems like it's related to the seasonality of enterprise deals landing in Q4. Was there anything else in the model that's helping that? And then is there any potential risk that some of those larger deals get pushed actually out more into fiscal 2025?

Speaker 8

Or have you accounted for some of that potential risk within the back half acceleration guide?

Speaker 3

So Jake, essentially we've looked at The deals and we've looked at our larger deals, we've looked at the close rates on those deals. We see those closing. They're just taking longer in elongated sales cycle. So We know the timing of when these deals now come into our ecosystem, if you will. We know that our customer budgets are heavier in the second half.

Speaker 3

So marrying the deal elongation and sales cycle with customer budgets, we feel good about sort of where that number is in terms of how we set the guide. We always know that there's going to be some level of deal push out that takes place. It's factored into our guide. The additional item I mentioned was we've Start incremental marketing program investment based on high LTV customers with high value and fidelity of return. That's what we've added into the mix as well.

Speaker 3

So between those factors, we're pretty comfortable with our guide for FY 'twenty four on the billings and revenue side

Speaker 8

Okay, great. Very helpful. And then could you talk more about the demand that you're seeing in some of your newer products? Seems like Advance had a pretty solid quarter, but could you just provide some more color on what's driving demand for that product suite? And then just Thinking about the broader platform, have you seen any solutions get more or less prioritized just given the uncertain macro environment?

Speaker 3

Yes. So the when I think about the products that have gained a lot of traction that I've seen sort of really resonate well, I think there's 2 layers to it. One is we are seeing advance. We gave the stats of 143 people either buying advance or upgrading to a peer in advance. So you're seeing that play out where customers are buying packages because they see it as the simplest way to generate value in an environment where they know there's proven ROI.

Speaker 3

So I think we're seeing that with our largest customers. We're also seeing traction for individual Capabilities. In this current environment, people are taking the approach of buying by the drink, by the individual capability. And we'd know that's fine because a lot of these customers start by buying one capability, but it sets them on this seeded journey to buy Advance eventually or buy more capabilities eventually. So we're seeing that play out pretty well.

Speaker 3

I think in general, we've seen great traction with some of our capabilities like data shuttle. So we've seen sort of what I call Great demand for some part of our product portfolio, which we called out here.

Speaker 5

Helpful. Thanks for taking my question.

Speaker 3

Of course, Chief.

Operator

Thank you. We'll go next now to Shebly Seyrafi at FBN Securities.

Speaker 11

Yes. Thank you very much. So you beat your fiscal Q1 revenue guidance by about 6 $1,000,000 And you're guiding pretty much in line with consensus in fiscal Q2 for revenue. And yet you kept Your annual revenue range unchanged at $943,000,000 $948,000,000 So implicitly, you might be Lowering your expectation by $6,000,000 in the back half, is that the right way to look at it?

Speaker 3

So what we've done is, Our approach to guidance over the last several quarters has been to be conservative sort of given the macro we're in. The macro is sort of dynamic for us. So given this macro, we're still early in the year. We've elected to remain conservative as we thought of guidance. So that's why we haven't changed the guide for the year despite the over performance in Q1.

Speaker 11

Okay. And any international callouts?

Speaker 3

I think we were sort of the performance that we had in international was According to our expectations, obviously, there's more of a headwind internationally and we saw that come through. But it's completely aligned with what our expectations were for those regions.

Speaker 6

Okay. Thank

Speaker 4

you. Thank

Operator

you very much. We go next now to Steve Enders at Citi. And Mr. Enders, your line is open, sir, if you have a question. And hearing no response, we'll take our next question now from Denjalim Bora at JPMorgan.

Speaker 5

Great. Hey, thanks for taking the question. The sales discovery of capabilities is interesting. I want to ask you if you're already piloting that with customers, what are you seeing With that respect, and is there is that will that also include kind of ability for the customers to buy the products online on a self serve basis or Would that still require kind of a sales effort as people look Getting to data shuttle or something else. And then thirdly, are you modeling some of benefit from this As it goes online in the second half in terms of bookings?

Speaker 2

Yes, we have not modeled any uplift from that into the second half. What we're solving for with what we're releasing in July is the discovery and the usage of. So, someone in a self directed way will be able to in context see these, understand how it applies to what they're trying to do, whether it's in the context of advanced sharing or data shuttle, be able to start using it immediately. It will still engage a member of our team to Take the order, but there will be no friction in the identification of the utilization of it, etcetera. And that's a very significant win.

Speaker 2

We have as I shared last time, we have well under 10% of our customers buying a second product from us. So we think this is The launch point to really get cross product attached.

Speaker 5

Understood. One quick follow-up for Pete. Pete, the deferred revenue I think sequentially was down probably for the first time at least when I was looking backward in a while. Is there Can you kind of tease out how much is that because of the SMB weakness, the mid market weakness versus kind of deals out because of longer sales cycle. Any way to understand that?

Speaker 3

The way I would characterize it is The large contributor was the high velocity transactional business associated with What I call SM generally associated with SMB and mid market. And then the other elements is that the demand for our marketing solutions And the elongation of sales cycle are probably on a similar order of magnitude, but next up.

Speaker 5

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We'll next now to Jackson Ader at SVB MoffettNathanson.

Speaker 4

Great, thanks. This is Kyle on for Jackson.

Speaker 5

I think we talked a lot about

Speaker 4

the macro, but maybe could you just give us an update on The competitive environment and maybe how compared to early last year, if you're seeing anyone more or less and then how win rates are looking? And then I do just have a quick follow-up on just kind of, I think, Mark, you may have mentioned that there was an expansion where you guys pushed out another tool. If there's just maybe a few use cases that you guys have tended to see be the catalyst for kind of a standardization, that would be great. Thanks. Yes.

Speaker 2

Over a longer horizon, I'd say over the last 2 years, we have seen an Increase in our conversion rate, our win rate on new. So that has progressed. Again, from a bookings contribution standpoint, those new wins don't accumulate too much, but they do serve as that planting of seeds. So that is on pace. In terms of expansion, once we're in the account, There's not a material change to the frequency with which we're seeing people.

Speaker 2

I would say as we continue to improve how the three dimensions of work that I talk about get more deeply integrated, the greater the return for a customer is to say I'm going to go with Smartsheet for content and work or people and content and work. And I think that does then put a lot of pressure on those providers who are only delivering on one of those dimensions. So it's how do you unify, how do you simplify, how do you get those economies of scale. So I think again, as I said, the hand is strengthening on that side. I have not seen anybody in category make moves to talk about those unifying those three dimensions of work within their portfolio Through integrations potentially, but that's very different than having it sole source.

Speaker 2

So not a lot when you look at where most companies still are today, The leading competitor is the status quo, which is not anybody in our category today. It's still the number And I would expect that to be the case probably for the next 2 years.

Operator

Thank you. We go next now to Jason Celino at KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Speaker 5

Hey guys, thanks for fitting me in. Just two quick ones from me. How interesting to see the launch of the pre plan. I guess what is The plan to drive interest in those types of customers and will that be mostly paid marketing driven? And then second, can you just elaborate on the opportunity to maybe convert some of these free users to paid users over time?

Speaker 5

Thanks.

Speaker 3

So I'll take the first part of it, which is on the marketing effort to go after it. We've as I said, we are launching marketing programs At the end of last quarter beginning of this quarter, which really go after high value conversions, high LTV customers. But a part of that marketing demand spills over into people getting interested in the free plan. It's not our focus in going after it, That naturally helps the free plan. The rest of it comes from people discovering those free plans as they look for ways Solve their collaborative work management problem, which really drives this process into high gear.

Speaker 3

Martin, take a second. And

Speaker 2

then in terms of the To get an engaged population in free to spend first dollar with you, you have the full portfolio available to us. As we start Getting our self discovered feature set introduced to people as we start to deploy GenAI experiences, We get to make those choices in terms of what we want to put in front of somebody. The good news is that we are already seeing a higher disproportionately higher conversion rate Paid from that population. And as you allow them to experience some of these premium things, some of these innovative elements, I would expect that to be a continued tailwind to getting those people on side. So it's an ever growing population.

Speaker 2

We're adding a lot of Companies to this realm, and we'll be watching that conversion rate closely as we introduce some of these new capabilities.

Speaker 5

Excellent. Thank you.

Speaker 1

Thanks.

Operator

Go next now to Josh Baer at Morgan Stanley.

Speaker 1

Thanks for the question. Mark, I think you gave a great overview of some of the areas that you're intending to release AI capabilities And the ways that you should be able to monetize. Hoping you could do 2 things. From the customer perspective, Could you talk a little bit more about how your conversations with customers are evolving around AI? Are they looking to you to help bring AI into the organizations, is this something that they're actively engaging around from a timeline perspective?

Speaker 1

And then second, I think it sounds like those three areas of GenAI are relatively near term initiatives. Just hoping you could sort of help with our imagination thinking about Your platform, the data you have and like the longer term potential for additional AI use cases or AI outside of those

Speaker 2

to education, to health, to technology, to services providers. And I would say that the AI conversations are as diverse. It's ranging from the very inquisitive, well informed prospect or customer Who wants to go deep on the topic to the other end of the spectrum, which is, can you just give me the basic education on what it means? Is it safe? How will you be secure and responsible in terms of how you're applying AI to your realm?

Speaker 2

Does my data leave your boundary? Does it get shipped off Some service provider to improve their model, like how does it work? And I think there's a really good opportunity right now to become a trusted advisor. So as we talk about our advanced analytics that we're flipping on for people, we focus on the fact that we get to take advantage of OpenAI, get to take advantage of these large language models. We get to take advantage of having their data not leave our boundary.

Speaker 2

That's a huge deal. So as we think about this opportunity to educate, become the trusted advisor and to have them look at us being able to say, Smartsheet is a mechanism for us to Apply AI to our operations safely and securely, like that's something that they're having to report out internally to their stakeholders. So I think we can play a very active role in that. I think there are various phases of the game on the AI piece. One of it and I look at sort of the customer journey, Someone starting out with us, trying to get educated, trying to unlock the potential, see how they can maximize the value, all the way up to the Highly sophisticated fully enabled control center person deploying a 2,000 wind turbine farm, very advanced situation.

Speaker 2

And I think what our duty is, is to be able to help someone at every phase of that journey. And I think it's very different using AI help someone convert to paid for the first time versus the person trying to add another 7 figures of ARR contribution to us. And When I think of the long term opportunity for us, it's how do you not only provide The convenience of AI to help them move more quickly, but how do you allow them to capitalize on the data set that's already been stored with you in some cases for years? How do you unlock insights in it? And again, that is more pertinent to someone who's been with you for a long time.

Speaker 2

But our model is so well set up because we have a clear understanding of intent. So if you were an ad hoc model that allowed people to collaborate in a fully unstructured That's fine. We happen to be the huge beneficiaries of knowing exactly what our customers are trying to do. Their data models describe their intent. Their interaction gives us insight into who's pertinent and who's most relevant.

Speaker 2

We get to use all of that on their behalf to apply AI to it. And I think the we look at AI in 2 ways also. 1 is very much Inwardly, what can we do within our ecosystem and then what can we do as a partner with other ecosystems. So when you look about what Microsoft announced to build, How do you use how do you co opt a Microsoft Teams co pilot infused experience with the tooling we already have to align with Teams? So it's not just how do you apply AI to maximize a Smartsheet feature set, how do you apply it to get maximum utility out of the other enterprise platforms they have today.

Speaker 2

And I think customers are looking for coaching on both fronts. So much of our growth over the years has been coming in with an informed point of view and then listening very intently to what customers want. And I think our AI strategy that we've built so far is absolutely influenced by what our customers are doing. The assistant, the analytics, the content generation, it's all predicated on where we see activity today. And as we deploy this, we're going to get a lot smarter about where people sensitivities are, where their needs are.

Speaker 2

And I think that strategy will emerge very, very clearly as we enter next year.

Speaker 1

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

We go next now to Keith Bachman at BMO.

Speaker 12

Hey, team. Thanks. And sorry, I do want to go back to the billings guide because I'm a little confused. You used a couple of times in the discussion this evening the word conservatism that you usually approach guidance with conservatism. But I think you said that you thought billings would grow by 6% sequentially in July quarter and perhaps I misunderstood that, but that implies something like 11% to 12% year over year billings growth.

Speaker 12

And it puts a lot of pressure on the back half of the year to get to something even close to 20% billings growth. And so the first part of the question is, when you say back half The year, do you mean both the October and Jan quarter? Or are you really sort of pushing everything to the Jan quarter? And then secondly, just when you say you're being conservative on your And I think to be fair, the previous question was related to revenue, but it doesn't seem like you're being conservative on this billings guidance. So maybe just Help me understand a little bit.

Speaker 3

So Keith, I'll first confirm the question you asked in terms of What you're sort of calculating, we did give you a sort of a steer on sort of how we would think of modeling Q2, which was a 6% sequential increase. I think when you look at that number and you say how does that come about and what gives you the confidence in the back half, There's 2 elements I pointed to which are specific. 1, we have an elongation of the sales cycle, but the deals close and we see they're closing. We see that we know that the enterprise budgets as we looked at customers and evaluated what they have are set up for the back half sort of expenditure rate, which is consistent with enterprises. So our elongated sales cycles, timing of when they close, Intersecting with customer budgets is something we've seen fairly well and that's what's sort of giving us the confidence across both Q3 and Q4.

Speaker 3

So we've sort of built that in. That's one. The second part of it is we've made incremental and significant investments In marketing programs, which are based on high LTV customers that provide high value. So we know that those dollars convert With fidelity to what we expect our bookings for booking contributions for the second half. That's the way we've built it in.

Speaker 3

I think our What do you call, our guidance is on billings is thoughtful and we've sort of considered the macro and how we expect that evolve as well.

Speaker 12

All right. Just to again, sorry, I got to tease this out, but many companies would suggest that if you have billing excuse me, deal elongation that's going to continue Such that there's just frankly slippage throughout the year. Are you assuming that there's some there's an improved close rate, so to speak, As you get towards the end of the year, that's facilitating getting to 2020 and or an improvement in the macro?

Speaker 3

We're not factoring an improvement in the macro. We're assuming on the longer deal cycles with enterprise budgets. Our close rates do improve as you think of those. So that's a key part of the sort of how we're thinking of the guide. And then the other part, Keith, you've got to remember is, we're dealing with a macro where the comps get much easier as you go into Q3 and Q4.

Speaker 3

So when you look at Q3 and Q4 and you look at the Growth rate in billings, you're doing it for comp with a macro already started to manifest itself in our results last year. So between those 2, I think we feel good about sort of how the year plays out.

Speaker 12

Okay. I submit that the comps are easier certainly in Q4, but It's a relatively hard compare in Q3 as well, but I will cede the floor. Thank

Speaker 5

you. Thanks, Ketan.

Operator

We go next now to Robert Simmons at D. A. Davidson.

Speaker 13

Hey, thanks for taking my question. So you guys have been willing a bit into your partner ecosystem. Can you update us on how that's going? How much of your new business is actually driven or influenced by it?

Speaker 3

So the partners are a key part of sort of how we go to market because they bring unique capability in markets like international. They play an integral part in co selling with us. Our percentage of what I call partner touched revenue has increased from Q1 of last year to Q1 of this year and it's now sitting in the mid teens in terms of So how we think of that contribution?

Speaker 2

In terms of the reliance on third parties to bring us business where it's really partner led entirely, that's a small minority of the business today. Where they have proven quite helpful is in that co selling, as Pete said. So I think you asked specifically about them bringing us business. I would say that has been substantially less than 15% of our total, but still very helpful to have their participation.

Speaker 13

Got it. And then what do you see in terms of like the big SIs building out their Is that progressing to plan or any color there would be helpful?

Speaker 2

Yes. We anticipate having some news on that in the second half. As I reported out last quarter, we have a number of the global SIs who have built practice areas in Smartsheet. And it's when I compare that to the large SIs who are doing exclusively system implementation and config on behalf of clients, What's interesting about 2 of the large ones that we're working with right now is that they're actually building service delivery practices on Smartsheet. And then after they have concluded, whether it's on an accounting dimension or on an M and A or divestiture dimension, Smartsheet is left behind to help their client operate.

Speaker 2

So it's very different than being hired to do a system implementation on behalf of the customer. It's really them delivering their services And leaving Smartsheet with the customer post project. We'll have more to report on that on the second half.

Speaker 13

Great. Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our final question today from Fred Lee of Credit Suisse.

Speaker 10

Hey, nice work on the profitability side of the Health and also on free cash generation. I have a question with regard to the introduction of Saree and the potential impact to the existing installed base in that. With weaker macro, what we've seen are some customers at Other software companies electing to actually downgrade to free in the near term. How do you protect against this? And This could potentially elevate risk to the base of the pyramid.

Speaker 2

Yes. When we initiated Free last This year, we did a lot of design work on this and we were very prudent, I would say, in our approach to what free provides somebody. While you can use our different views and our dashboards and elements of automation, the constraint is put in, in terms of who you can share your work with. When we look at the sharing need within our organizations, our customers, it's significant. And it can give you a good taste today.

Speaker 2

You can share it with Up to 2 people, but we have we obviously had a lot of work in the quarters leading up to launching it globally to understand the impact. We saw no impact to our conversion to our paying plans, and we see no evidence of people downgrading to free at our paid customers today of any significance. And that was a key part of our research before we launched it globally. And again, we have seen nothing different since launching it globally from what we saw in those quarters running up.

Speaker 10

Got it. Thank you. That's extremely helpful.

Speaker 7

Just a

Speaker 5

quick one for Pete. Last quarter you said NRR would end in

Speaker 10

the high teens towards the end of the year. And I might have missed it, but did you give an update here? And then if you could talk a little bit on pricing and whether it's been stable, if there's been any degradation sequentially from Q4? Thank you very much.

Speaker 3

So I think we in my prepared remarks said we expect the net dollar retention rate to end the year in the high teens. So we Sort of reiterated what we've said before. So we set that out. Now are we seeing any price degradation in the market? I think we're seeing our prices hold.

Speaker 3

We're seeing demand vectors of what I call the high velocity business where people just decide They're not going to go for the quick projects that you can start and sort of go to town with right away within a short period of time. That's where we're seeing it. We're not seeing a giant price degradation happening.

Speaker 1

Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. Mr. Turner, I'd like to turn the conference back to you, sir, for any closing remarks.

Speaker 1

Great. Thanks, both. And thanks, everyone, for joining us today. We'll speak with you again next quarter.

Operator

Thank you, gentlemen. Again, ladies and gentlemen, I will conclude the Smartsheet 1st quarter fiscal

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