Premier Financial Q2 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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July 26, 2023

There are 5 speakers on the call.

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Premier Financial Corp. 2nd Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask a question. Please note this event is being recorded.

Operator

I would now like to turn the conference over to Paul Nogesta with Premier Financial Corp. Please go ahead.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for today's Q2 2023 earnings conference call. This call is also being webcast and the audio replay will be available at the Premier Financial We will now begin the call to our Investor Relations website at premierfincorp.com. Following our prepared comments on the company's strategy and performance, We will be able to take your questions. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that during the conference call today, including during the question and answer period, You may hear forward looking statements related to the future financial results and business operations for Premier Financial Corp.

Speaker 1

Actual results may differ materially from current management forecasts and projections as a result of factors over which the company has no control. Information on these risk factors and additional information on forward looking statements are included in the news release and in the company's reports on file with the Securities and Exchange Commission. I'll now turn the call over to Gary for his opening comments.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Paul, and good morning to all. Thank you for joining us. On behalf of the Premier team, I'm pleased to announce 2nd quarter earnings of $1.35 per share with $0.68 of the earnings Falling into the core operating category, another $0.67 a share resulting from a well executed sale of our First Insurance Group Agency. Coming out of our Q1 call, we shared our expectations for a more normalized quarterly core earnings range, And our team worked very hard to deliver on that expectation over the quarter. First, to comment on the First Insurance Group transaction.

Speaker 2

The genesis for the sale emanated from a strategic assessment of each of Premier's core business segments, taking into account Earnings growth trajectory, effective capital utilization and operating execution management. While the agency's financial performance has been consistently Strong and currently on par with the industry. From a strategic perspective, we felt it would be we could achieve a higher return on capital And better position the agency to achieve its potential by pursuing alternatives in today's very dynamic agency valuation environment. The net result, an excellent bump in Premier's reported current earnings for the quarter, a $1.37 increase in tangible book value per share And all with no EPS dilution effect on a go forward basis. We improved capital and liquidity We're well positioned to support future growth in our core banking businesses, a win on all fronts.

Speaker 2

I'll now move to Premier's banking performance highlights for the quarter. Continue to see commercial opportunities in the market that are being very selective. We stay focused on supporting our existing clients along with targeted C and I opportunities. Annualized loan growth totaled in excess of 8% for the quarter And the commercial loan growth was 7% on the same annualized pace, with C and I representing 49% of our new business origination during the quarter. Total deposits grew 3% in absolute terms with a slight drop in customer deposits over the course of the quarter.

Speaker 2

We continue to see migration of deposits to higher earning products consistent with the industry. We are having success in neutralizing the effect of prior deposit The core non interest income category was up 9.4% versus the Q2 of last year with wealth and deposit related fee income reporting high Targeted expense reduction initiatives are on track, the full quarter effects on the reductions to be felt over the remainder of the year. Loan portfolios continue to perform well. NPA and delinquency numbers are in check, Very much solid with the 4 quarter averages, and we were in a net recovery position from a net charge off perspective for the quarter. Consistent with expectations we set on our call last quarter, we engaged in hedging activity in early June, which will provide a near term boost to net interest income, while also protecting margin from unfavorable impacts of future Fed funds rate increases.

Speaker 2

We've also taken additional steps in rightsizing our residential mortgage operation given the continued softness of the business. Doing so trims our expectations for balance sheet growth in the residential portfolio segment. Our unfunded construction commitments Are down 70% versus this time last year. And with that, I'm going to turn it over to Paul for some more details.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Gary. I'll begin by describing a couple of important transactions during the quarter. First on June 30, as Gary said, we completed the sale of First Insurance Group Risk Strategies Corporation, this sale generated a significant gain of $36,300,000 before transaction costs of $3,700,000 And taxes of $8,500,000 representing $0.67 of EPS. The transaction strengthened capital by increasing tangible equity 48,800,000 Through the net gain and recovery of $24,700,000 of goodwill and intangibles, which added 54 basis points or $1.37 of tangible value. We had a full quarter of operations in 2Q and going forward the utilization of proceeds will effectively offset the agency's pre tax earnings Then become accretive as they are deployed in the loans.

Speaker 1

Separately, we completed a series of balance sheet hedges during June to improve asset sensitivity And provide some protection against additional rate increases. These hedges were all pay fixed, received variable swaps, Including $250,000,000 of 2 year and $250,000,000 of 3 year. These swaps carry an average 4.12% pay rate And are expected to generate $4,700,000 of annualized pretax net interest income as of June 30. Going forward, each 25 basis point increase in SOFR is expected to generate an additional $625,000 of annualized pre tax net interest income, Including the net impact of these new swaps and our prior $250,000,000 notional received fixed pay variable swap. Including the impact of all swaps, we now estimate that each 25 basis point increase in the federal funds rate To reduce annualized pre tax net interest income by approximately $500,000 based on our June 30 balance sheet compared to $1,500,000 as of March 31.

Speaker 1

For the balance sheet, capital levels improved significantly during the quarter, In part because of the FIGS sale. Tangible equity increased 8.4% in dollar terms and our TE ratio improved by 52 basis points To 7.55 percent including AOCI or 9.6% excluding AOCI. Our regulatory ratios also increased and they all continue to exceed well capitalized guidelines, including the impact of AOCI. Credit quality was steady, including a net decrease in criticized loans and net recoveries for the quarter. Total deposits increased by 3.25 percent, primarily due to an increase in broker deposits.

Speaker 1

We also experienced an impactful mix migration during the quarter, Including a $155,000,000 net decrease in savings, demand and non interest bearing deposits, mostly offset by a 117,000,000 dollar increase in money market, time and public fund deposits as customers look for higher deposit yields. Total liquidity improved during 2Q with quantifiable sources increasing more than $360,000,000 to $2,800,000,000 Including $1,500,000,000 of FHLB borrowing capacity at June 30. The increase was primarily due to successfully expanding our capacity at the Federal Reserve More than $300,000,000 in the 2nd quarter via the borrower in custody program. Separately, our level of uninsured deposits 31.5 percent or 17.3 percent when adjusting for collateralized deposits such as OPCS And other insured deposits such as the Indiana PDIF. As a result, our total liquidity was 230.5 percent of adjusted uninsured deposits at June 30.

Speaker 1

Primarily due to the deposit mix migration I previously mentioned, we experienced additional NIN compression during 2Q. Interest bearing deposit costs increased 38 basis points to 1.69% for 2Q, Which was primarily due to higher utilization of broker deposits and increased rates for public ICS Cedars accounts, money market accounts and time deposits as customers migrated for yield. Excluding broker deposits and marks accretion, average interest bearing Customer deposit costs were 2.08% during June or a cumulative beta of 37%, up from 35% in March Compared to the change in the monthly average effective federal funds rate, which increased 500 basis points to 5.08 percent from December 2021. Net interest margin was positively impacted by the combination of previous loan growth and higher loan yields, which were 4.86%, up 20 basis points from Q1. Excluding the impact of PPP and marks, loan yields were 4.89% in June 2023 For an increase of 108 basis points since December 2021, this represents a cumulative beta of 22% compared to the change in the monthly average effective federal funds rate for the same period.

Speaker 1

However, deposit costs outpacing loan yields led to the compression of net interest income and margin during the Q2. Next, excluding the $36,000,000 FIC gain, non interest income was 17 point $1,000,000 for 2Q, up 36.8 percent or $4,600,000 from 1Q. This increase was primarily due to a lack of security losses And a $3,200,000 increase in mortgage banking income, primarily due to an increase in hedge valuations. Excluding $3,700,000 of transaction costs for the fixed sale, expenses were $40,800,000 down $2,000,000 or 4.6 percent on a linked quarter basis, Primarily due to cost saving initiatives we began implementing during the Q2. For the full year, we now expect total core of approximately $158,000,000 down $5,000,000 from our prior estimate, including $6,000,000 from FIG, Offset by $1,000,000 of other costs like higher FDIC premiums.

Speaker 1

Overall, we are pleased with our core performance in the 2nd quarter. Excluding the impact of the fixed sale, pre tax pre provision income increased $4,200,000 or 16% on a linked quarter basis For a 1.41 percent return on average assets, net income increased $6,100,000 or 33.5 percent We're 1.13% return on average assets and EPS increased $0.17 or 33 percent to $0.68 As we look forward, positive momentum includes the deployment of fixed sale proceeds in the earning assets, the full impact of the swaps completed in June And the continued execution of our cost saving initiatives. Headwinds include the continued inverted curve environment with the potential for further rate increases, Additional deposit mix migration or runoff and possible changes on the regular front, regulator front that could lead to increased costs such as even higher FDIC premiums. That completes my financial review. And I'll now turn the call back over to Gary for his closing remarks.

Speaker 3

Thank you, Paul.

Speaker 2

I'll share some thoughts for the remainder of the year that will hopefully be helpful in your modeling work. I would stick with the average earning asset growth of 4%, which we said earlier in the year, I do expect the second half will be much less robust than the first half. Customer deposit growth, 2% range plus For the remainder of the year, we do expect some additional margin compression driven by our deposit mix movement, A much more moderate quarter to quarter movement than we saw in Q2. Revised non interest income figures Adjust quarter 3 and 4 downward by $4,000,000 each to reflect the FIG transaction and revised expense expectations downwards by $5,000,000 in total for the remainder of the year for the same rationale. I will note that without FIG as a part of the organization, Our efficiency ratio improves about 2 40 basis points.

Speaker 2

From a loss provision perspective, we're expecting No more than 5 to 8 basis points in net charge offs for the remainder of the year. And with that said, operator, we'll turn it over for questions.

Operator

If for any reason you wish to withdraw your question, it is star followed by 2. As a reminder, if you are using a speaker phone, please remember to pick up your handset before asking your question. So our first question comes from the line of Michael Touretto of KBW. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 3

Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to start on just the Kind of the incremental spread or margin, Gary or Paul, whoever wants to take a stab at it, but just kind of curious, you mentioned it doesn't sound like the balance It should grow a ton in the back half of the year, Gary, based on the earning asset guidance of 4% for the full year. I kind of suggest Yes, I think my rough math was pretty flat from here. So just wondering, I'm sure you're still going to be originating loans and trying to bring on new customer deposits. So just How do we think about kind of the incremental spread of what you're targeting for the back half of the year?

Speaker 3

And then how does that kind of trickle down to the NIM, which it sounds like you guys expect compression to moderate Relative to the first half of the year, based on what you're seeing in the 1st few weeks of the Q3 and the end of last quarter, I should say.

Speaker 1

Yes, Mike, you got that right there. So we are projecting minimal additional growth on the asset side through loans and a good portion of that as we've seen in the last couple of quarters even comes from the existing commitments on Construction lines and things like that, but those are slowing down as they've been burning down, right? But we've been cutting back on Production in mortgage, especially in even to some extent on the commercial front, although we're always looking For the best deals there. So, we've definitely had the commercial teams especially understanding The environment in terms of pricing loans, right, to get the appropriate spreads. So Thinking about our incremental cost of borrowing being our kind of base these days in the definitely starting with a 5 there And then the spread on top of that.

Speaker 1

So new loans coming in the front door in the 7, 8, either 9 to some extent, But also trying to focus a lot on the C and I piece of it instead of The fixed or adjustable. So we've been making good progress on that. I think it's 40% to It's in the 40s percent for the origination front on our commercial in terms of the C and I business there. And obviously, those would Continue to float up if rates were to continue to increase from here as well. In terms of overall NIM then, Mike, If we maintain what we just said in terms of the asset growth and bring those in at an appropriate spread As well as succeed on some of our initiatives on the deposit front.

Speaker 1

And most importantly, The recent trends, while we had a lot of mix migration in the quarter, it was predominantly early in the quarter. Our Monthly, NIM was within a few basis points of each other, April, May June. So that migration had an early impact and then kind of settled down. And if that were to continue, that would help With some stabilization in NIM, our expectation would be that some of that would continue, so we could see a few more bps out of it, But absent major movements,

Speaker 2

Mike will have 2 unique items that are true for 3rd Q4 that weren't true so much For the first two quarters, one, you'll see some margin movement just based on the FIG transaction converting all that to cash and what it does relative to our Liquidity and the 5% borrowing that Paul mentioned. And also the hedging activity that we got into, Certainly, we're looking at in today's environment, meaning this month with rates as they are and so forth, That's a $400,000 plus a month sort of improvement to the numbers. So when we looked at the second half, the combination of those two, Probably $4,000,000 more in net interest income. It hasn't got so much to do with portfolio loan balances and the mix changes of the Positive pace. Little tailwind there.

Speaker 3

No, that's all really helpful guys. I guess just as a kind of a High level follow-up, Gary. I mean, at what point does it make sense? I mean, does the balance sheet growth not turn back on until you guys can comfortably be generating kind of 3% incremental spreads like to get that margin back up to 3% above. I mean, does it make sense Just hold flat until the environment is kind of supportive of that?

Speaker 3

Or how do you guys think about that nature? Because I mean, you guys are still you still have the same team of lenders, right? There are opportunities to take share. I mean, I imagine that hasn't changed. It's just you guys being a little bit more deliberate in what you're willing to look at.

Speaker 3

So when does that Switch or why would that switch turn? Is it just the incremental spreads? Is it macro? Is it credit? Like what are some of the considerations you guys take as we think about that moving forward?

Speaker 2

The spreads are a little bit more the results of the activity. We do have other constraints that we put on ourselves like our loan to deposit ratio and so forth. We've got a reasonable amount of borrowed money right now through Federal Home Loan Bank and we're using Brogert. And we're trying to be Conservative, if you will, relative to how much we would move the balance sheet before we were feeling stabilized in those categories as well. So It's more about capacity that we'll free ourselves up with.

Speaker 2

And we mentioned we're stepping have stepped away from the mortgage business and so forth. That will be Create capacity for the commercial group. Retail, indirect auto and so forth, those are the things you step away from in a time like this and We have and you see that in the consumer numbers trending slightly down. And that's the way we'll create capacity. I think As Paul was mentioning, the loans are going on at 8%.

Speaker 2

So even at the worst borrowing rate, we're still making 3% on it. It's more about some of those other balance sheet factors Yes. We want to make sure we get a nice predictable and safe position or maintain that position. That's probably our first thing on our mind when we're thinking about growth. We had 20% loan growth last year.

Speaker 2

So we really got to digest and get the right side of the balance sheet in as good a shape as we got the left side of the balance sheet at.

Speaker 3

Makes sense. Just two last quick ones for me. Just you guys kind of talked around a little bit, but are you willing to share any kind of Budgeting expectations around mortgage gain on sale for the back half of the year. And then just secondly, I know that the insurance sale impacted tax rate this quarter. Paul, do you have kind of an accrual rate for the back half of the year that you guys are running that we

Speaker 2

should be using? Thank you.

Speaker 1

Yes. I'll answer that last one there first real quick, Mike. So when you exclude the impact of the big transaction, it's Our effective tax rate is around the 19% level, consistent with kind of our historical patterns, right?

Speaker 2

Yes. That was an incremental rate on the FIG transaction because of the difference in tax basis and so forth Like 25%. Yes. So that's how we back into the $0.68 normalized. Yes.

Speaker 3

And then on the mortgage piece,

Speaker 1

Mike, you had another one. Yes, mortgage.

Speaker 2

Mortgage. Mike, I think if you took the 2 quarters just reported and split them in half, That would be about your expectation going forward for the following 2 quarters.

Speaker 3

So about $3,000,000 in the back half of the year, give or take?

Speaker 2

Give or take, yes.

Speaker 3

Yes. All right. I really appreciate it guys. Thanks for all the color and for taking my questions. Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 3

Yes. Yes.

Speaker 2

I got it. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thanks, Mike. Thank

Operator

you. Our next question comes from the line of Brandon Knowles of Piper Sandler, your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker 4

Hey, good morning guys. Hope you're doing well.

Speaker 2

Good morning, Brendan. Good morning.

Speaker 4

Just wanted to walk through your thought process behind adding The hedges this quarter after rates have already risen so much. Yes, I guess on the one hand, you get an immediate interest income benefit today with lower upside should rates move higher. But on the other hand, since the reason that if rates fall, you're kind of giving up a little bit of the recapture on the margin with rates down as well. Can you just kind of Walk through the puts and takes and why now is the right time to add these hedges?

Speaker 2

I'll let Paul comment on that and then Brendan I may have a follow-up.

Speaker 1

Thanks, Brandon. Yes, it's a fair question. Couple of things there. As you noted, yes, we get the immediate accretion right out of that trade, which is a benefit to NIM and PPNR there, plus the it helps stabilize NIM as we're alluding to earlier. It does give us some protection as rates continue to rise Here, we're expecting to hear 25 bps from the Fed here soon, and we'll see if there's any more from there or if they truly settle in.

Speaker 1

But stepping back from it, Brendan, The issue with it is, if you're going to do it, you got to do it when you've got the benefit. So the opportunity, while you can always do a swap trade, right? The spreads weren't there. The differences between the current and the expected future curve weren't where they were when we did the execution. So we could have done it certainly quarters earlier or even a year earlier, but the benefits weren't there at the time.

Speaker 1

It wasn't until there was a spread between what the market was expecting in terms of near term rates possibly dropping And what the Fed continues to talk about in terms of hire for longer, that created the opportunity. That's when we stepped in. We got the immediate benefit, which is almost $5,000,000 annualized here, Which will be a near term benefit. And then if it does continue to rise, we'll just continue to benefit from that even more. And then in terms of our exposure, that's why we kept them short, right?

Speaker 1

So we didn't go out too long on this. We kept them in the 2 to 3 year Range for now to deal with the near term horizon that we foresee these rates being at the elevated levels And those will roll off then. And if rates have fallen by that point, which is certainly long term expectation for us, Then we'll just have the old one, which will be back into a positive position at that point and continue to benefit on that side.

Speaker 2

I think when we look at the Tea Leaves now, we do believe in hire for longer as the Fed is positioned. And this 1st year will be in the money. And to the extent the swap markets and the market expectations of what it looks like Yes. In year end 2, 3 comes to bear, the swap itself will lose its positive aspect, But the rest of our portfolio will benefit in such a great way from the retreat, if you will, of that. It will neutralize it.

Speaker 2

And then by the End of the second year, we'll all just be left with the lower rates that come from that high beta dollars, so puts and takes on that. In a perfect world, if I had my wizard hat on back in Q1 of 'twenty two, I would have gone underwater and paid for 500 basis points of protection. But to Paul's point, as we were going through the year, The swap curve versus our balance sheet at the time, it never seemed advantageous enough to do it. I will also say that we probably about 6 weeks later on the trade than we initially planned to be. We were ready to move and we lost our price window, waited another couple of 3 weeks before we Excuse me if it would come back, but it was never going to be before the beginning of April for us.

Speaker 3

All right.

Speaker 4

Okay. Really appreciate the thoughts there on a more complicated moving piece. Maybe one more follow-up on the same topic. Does this hedge Really change how fast you would recapture AOCI on the securities book in a rates down scenario? Presumably rates down the fair value Of these hedges would decline.

Speaker 4

So how much of securities you captured in that counter?

Speaker 1

Yes. No, the swaps themselves don't make a big difference to the potential AOCI accretion. That's predominantly from the securities book. We've run some numbers and we're looking at if rates stay where they're at, if the curve plays out as of the June 30 curve, We've got potential accretion of 23 percent of the AOCI pool, most of that from securities and that'd be another $1.08 of Coming in over the next 6 quarters by the end of next year.

Speaker 2

Perfect. We've added a question on that.

Speaker 4

Got it. I'll take a peek. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on the quarter.

Speaker 1

Thank you. Thank you very much, Brendan.

Operator

Thank you. As there are no additional questions waiting at this time, I'd like to hand the call back over to Gary Small for closing remarks.

Speaker 2

Well, again, thank you all. It's been another interesting quarter for seasonal results. Appreciate your interest in the organization. Look forward to more good news next quarter. Thank you very much.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's Premier Financial Corp. 2nd quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect your line.

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