NYSE:PFS Provident Financial Services Q2 2023 Earnings Report $15.51 +0.02 (+0.14%) Closing price 04/17/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$15.54 +0.03 (+0.19%) As of 04/17/2025 04:05 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast BRT Apartments EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.45Consensus EPS $0.36Beat/MissBeat by +$0.09One Year Ago EPSN/ABRT Apartments Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$118.49 millionExpected Revenue$124.55 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$6.06 millionYoY Revenue GrowthN/ABRT Apartments Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2023Date7/27/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateFriday, July 28, 2023Conference Call Time10:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsBRT Apartments' Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 6, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Thursday, May 8, 2025 at 4:00 PM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by BRT Apartments Q2 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJuly 28, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Thank you for standing by. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Provident Financial Services Inc. 2nd Quarter Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Operator00:00:28Thank you. Adriano Duarte, Investor Relations Officer, you may begin your conference. Speaker 100:00:34Thank you, Cheryl. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our Q2 earnings call. Today's presenters are President and CEO, Tony Labazetta and Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Tom Lyons. Before beginning their review of our financial results, We ask that you please take note of our standard question as to any forward looking statements that may be made during the course of today's call. Our disclaimer our full disclaimer is contained in last evening's earnings release, which has been posted to the Investor Relations page on our website providence. Speaker 100:01:06Bank. Now it's my pleasure to introduce Tony LaVazetta, who will offer his perspective on our Q2. Tony? Speaker 200:01:14Thank you, Adriano. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Provident Financial Services earnings call. The disruption to the banking system and resultant volatility that we all experienced in the Q1 has abated and Provident Bank fared well through the instability. These events, however, combined with more rate hikes by the Federal Reserve gave rise to new headwinds for the banking industry in the form of funding challenges as we headed into the Q2. These funding challenges included More demands by customers for higher rates, needs for more insurance, a disintermediation from low cost deposits to higher yielding time deposits And certain deposits shifting to treasury securities. Speaker 200:01:59Consequently, we experienced higher deposit betas for the quarter, which increased our funding costs and compressed our net interest margin. Despite these unfavorable market conditions, Provident produced good financial results this quarter, which once again demonstrates the strength of our franchise and talented management team. As a result, We've reported earnings of $0.43 per share and annualized return on average assets of 0.93% and a return on average tangible equity of 10.75%. Excluding merger related charges and normalizing the CECL provision For stabilized economic forecast, we estimate our core return on average assets was approximately 1.07 Our capital is strong and comfortably exceeds well capitalized levels. Tangible book value per share expanded 3.6 percent during the 1st 6 months to $15.66 on the strength of our earnings. Speaker 200:03:05Our tangible common equity ratio on June 30 was 8.72%. As such, Our Board of Directors approved a quarterly cash dividend of $0.24 per share payable on August 25. Presently, our uninsured and uncollateralized deposits were $2,700,000,000 or approximately 26% of our total deposits. Our on balance sheet liquidity plus borrowing capacity is $3,800,000,000 or 140 percent of uninsured deposits. Our core deposits are a valuable component of our franchise. Speaker 200:03:43During the quarter, our core deposits decreased $55,000,000 or 0 point 7%, which we attribute to normal business activity and customers seeking higher yields on their deposits. For the Q2, our deposit beta was 148% with the rising rate cycle to date deposit beta was about 25%. Consequently, our total cost of deposits increased and in large part drove our total cost of funds up 50 basis points to 1.71 percent and compressed our net interest margin 37 basis points. Our commercial lending team closed approximately $516,000,000 of new commercial loans during the 2nd quarter. Prepayments decreased 56 percent to $125,000,000 as compared to the trailing quarter. Speaker 200:04:38Our credit metrics remain strong in the 2nd quarter and we continue to maintain prudent underwriting standards, particularly in Cree Lending. As part of our normal Cree monitoring processes, we have performed targeted in-depth Analysis to evaluate portfolio and loan level risks. Our line of credit utilization percentage increased 4% in the second quarter to 35%, which is approaching our historical average of approximately 40%. As a result of the improved production, reduced prepayments And increased line utilization, our commercial loans grew $315,000,000 or 3.6 percent for the quarter. For the 6 months, we grew $296,000,000 or 3.4 percent, which is pacing at an annualized growth rate of about 6.7%. Speaker 200:05:30The pull through in our commercial loan pipeline during the Q2 was good and the gross pipeline remains strong at approximately 1,700,000,000 The pull through adjusted pipeline including loans pending closing is approximately $1,000,000,000 and our projected pipeline rate increased 47 basis points to 7.24 percent. We are encouraged by the strength and quality of our pipeline. In addition, payoffs have slowed. As a result, we expect to achieve our commercial loan lending growth targets for the remainder of 2023. Our fee based businesses performed well this quarter. Speaker 200:06:09Provident Protection Plus had an outstanding second quarter with 82% organic growth, which resulted in a 34% increase in revenue and an 87% increase in operating profit as compared to the same quarter last year. The conditions in the financial markets were more stable in the 2nd quarter And as a result, Beacon Trust experienced growth in market value of assets under management and related fee income. Beacon's fee income remained stable compared to the trailing quarter as the increase in advisory fees was mostly offset by a reduction in trust revenue. With respect to our previously announced merger with Lakeland Bancorp, we continue our engagement with the regulators and have provided Additional information in order to further support our application for approval of the merger. The companies have made significant progress in various integration initiatives through outstanding teamwork from both banks. Speaker 200:07:08We look forward to receiving regulatory approval and combining our 2 great franchises into the best bank in New Jersey. As we look forward, we remain focused on growing our business. However, staying disciplined and committed to our risk management principles is critical during these challenging times. In addition, we expect to close and integrate the merger with Lakeland Bank in the near future, which we believe will create value for all of our stakeholders. Now, I'll turn the call over to Tom for his comments on our financial performance. Speaker 200:07:40Tom? Speaker 300:07:40Thank you, Tony, and good morning, everyone. As Tony noted, our net income for the quarter was $32,000,000 or $0.43 per share compared with $40,500,000 or $0.54 per share for the trailing quarter and $39,200,000 or $0.53 per share for the Q2 of 2022. Non tax deductible charges related to our pending merger with Lakeland Bancorp totaled $2,000,000 in the current quarter and $1,100,000 in the trailing quarter. Excluding these merger related charges, pre tax pre provision earnings for the current quarter were $55,300,000 for an annualized 1.6 percent of average assets. Revenue totaled $118,000,000 for the quarter compared with $130,000,000 for the trailing quarter $120,000,000 for the Q2 of 2022. Speaker 300:08:28Our net interest margin decreased 37 basis points in the trailing quarter to 3.11%. Yield on earning assets improved by 10 basis points versus the trailing quarter as floating and adjustable rate loans repriced favorably New loan originations reflected higher market rates. This improvement in asset yields, however, was more than offset by an increase in interest bearing funding costs. Increased funding costs reflected current market conditions, which resulted in an increase in borrowings accompanied by a decrease in deposits. Certain non interest bearing balances also moved to our interest bearing insured cash sweep product in order to obtain increased deposit insurance. Speaker 300:09:06In addition, lower costing demand and savings balances shifted to higher costing time deposits. The average total cost of deposits increased 37 basis points to 1.42%. This brought our rising rate cycle to date beta to 25%. The average cost of total interest bearing liabilities increased 59 basis points in the trailing quarter to 2.13%. The prolonged inverted yield curve, ongoing deposit competition and an increase in the attractiveness of investment alternatives continue to impact funding costs. Speaker 300:09:38As a result, we expect to see some continued net interest margin compression for the balance of 2023 and project the margin will stabilize at around 3%. Period end total loans grew $306,000,000 with commercial loans increasing $315,000,000 for the quarter. Our pull through adjusted loan pipeline The provision for credit losses on loans increased $4,400,000 for the quarter to $10,400,000 primarily due to a worsened As a result, the allowance to credit losses on loans increased to 97 basis points of total loans at June 30 from 91 basis points at March 31. Current credit metrics, however, were stable and annualized net charge offs were just 4 basis points of loans for the quarter. Non interest income decreased $2,800,000 versus the trailing quarter as a $2,000,000 gain related to a prior quarter sale of REO was realized on the satisfaction of post closing conditions in the trailing quarter. Speaker 300:10:46In addition, deposit fees were down $612,000 versus the trailing quarter and insurance agency income, while ahead of plan for the Q2, was $255,000 less than the seasonally strong Q1. Excluding provisions for credit losses on commitments to extend credit and merger related charges, non interest expense decreased $4,500,000 versus the trailing quarter, with $3,500,000 of that decline coming in compensation and benefits expense as incentive accruals, stock based compensation and employer payroll tax expense were all lower than the trailing quarter. Adjusted operating expenses were an annualized 1.83 percent of average assets for the current quarter compared with 2% in the trailing quarter and 1.92% for the Q2 of 2022. The efficiency ratio was 53.29% for the Q2 of 2023 compared with 51.85 percent in the trailing quarter and 53.83 percent for the Q2 of 2022. That concludes our prepared remarks. Speaker 300:11:44We will be happy to respond to questions. Operator00:11:50Your first question is from Mark Fitzgibbon of Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 400:11:56Hey, good morning guys. Happy Friday. Speaker 200:11:59Good morning, Mark. Tony, I Speaker 400:12:02wondered if there's anything left that you all need to do or provide to the regulators Or have you sort of done all that? And do you have any rough sense what the timing might look like for closing on the Lakeland deal? Speaker 200:12:20Yes. I mean, what I can say to that is that We have weekly meetings with calls with the FDIC to ensure that any questions that are open or anything that's pending has been provided. So we're when I look at this is like we're on the back end of that, right? We've given them everything that they need to process the application. Will a question or 2 arise during their, what I would call, final analysis? Speaker 200:12:53Sure. But from my perspective, and I know I get guided by counsel not to be To forward on this, it just appears that everything is there and they have to go through their process. And So I'm expecting it to happen relatively soon. Speaker 400:13:12Great. And then second question, Tom, on the expense Trends, obviously, they were great this quarter. And it sounded like Expenses might tick up a little bit in the Q3. Did I hear that correctly? Speaker 300:13:29I think we'll be able to maintain in the $64,000,000 to 60 $5,000,000 range Mark. I think like a lot of our peers, we're cognizant of the pressure that interest margin has put on earnings and we're looking carefully at all our expenses. Speaker 400:13:42Okay. And I heard your comments also on the margin sort of bottoming out around 3%. Is that assumed in the 3rd quarter? Speaker 300:13:52Yes, I think so, Mark. It comes in around 3 and stays there. Speaker 400:13:56Okay. And with the strong pipeline that you have And given sort of the softening economic situation, how are you thinking about provisioning levels for the back half of the year? Speaker 300:14:11I think about the total coverage at 97 basis points, and I don't really see it going much higher than that. That was really responsive to the economic forecast, in The commercial property price index, rely on Moody's baseline for economic forecast and I think they were a little bit slower than some other Forecasters may be in catching up on their view of CRE potential losses. That said, our own book is quite strong as you saw, Really strong in the asset quality metrics overall and no concerns reflected in the current book. Speaker 400:14:44Great. Thank you. Operator00:14:48Your next question is from Billy Young of RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 100:14:55Hey, good morning, guys. Can you hear me okay? Speaker 300:14:58Good morning. Great. Speaker 100:15:02Maybe kind of a 2 part question here to start. First, on loan growth, it Looks like you're set up to have continued nice growth into the Q3 with the stronger adjusted Pull through pipelines. Kind of what are your thoughts? I guess, what are your thoughts on growth in the back half of the year? And then secondly, can you guys give us an update on your thoughts on funding going forward from here, particularly given the loan to deposit ratio at close to 103%. Speaker 200:15:42Sure. I might give it a long winded answer on a 2 part question. So with regards to our lending, We think the pacing that I mentioned during the call at around 6.7% is something that is In the wheelhouse, we still guide to that 5% to 6% growth rate. Pipeline is strong. The activity is strong. Speaker 200:16:06Our underwriting is strong, so we feel pretty good about that sector. One other thing to point out that In the first half of the year, we've seen a substantive growth in the C and I side of the book as well. So there's not that which is consistent with our plan, so not to rely so heavily on CRE lending. So just to give you a quick metric on that, we did about 40% of our production was in C and I versus 27% last year at the same time. So, the teams are doing a good job Executing on that and I'm feeling really good. Speaker 200:16:42In terms of funding, I guess our expectation if I were to just throw it out On a macro basis is that our aim is to probably try to keep deposits stable for the rest of the year. There are I don't think it's prudent to have strategies that to attract because it's very expensive to do that. That being said, we still grow a lot of our deposits through our business banking program. So we still expect some good activity there and growth. On the municipal side, I think that we had new norms and a lot of the excess money that was in municipalities through stimulus has gone out. Speaker 200:17:22So therefore that we don't expect a lot of growth in that sector. And we're aiming to maintain consumer deposits On a level basis and I think if we can do that, it's a good achievement. That being said, how do you fund the growth? We're going to fund it through our business banking growth in terms of deposits. We're going to probably go to the wholesale market if needed, Given that it's a better pricing play than trying to incrementally price your deposits through some campaign. Speaker 200:17:52And lastly, we'll use some securities cash flows that come in to divert those into the lending sector. I think that we're cognizant of loan to deposit ratios not going out of bounds, but our estimates show that they're still within The bands that we want to operate in, so we're comfortable pushing for that 5%, 6% As long as it's good responsible growth because it will also come with some self funding in that category. Speaker 300:18:22I was just going to add with some of our peers stepping back a bit in the lending arena, it affords The ability to continue to be selective both with regard to pricing and structure. So we're getting looks at some quality loans. Exactly. Speaker 200:18:35Long winded answer, Bill. Hopefully, I gave you what you needed. Speaker 100:18:39You did and it wasn't long winded at all. Thanks. And just I guess second question, to kind of follow-up on Mark's questioning on the margin. It sounds like Does it kind of feel like some of the deposit pressures that we saw in the 2nd quarter or Normalizing or getting better so far in the Q3. It sounds like we're pretty close to the margin bottoming here. Speaker 100:19:07And You know, with the Fed's hike earlier this week was the last month of this year, do you guys feel better about Your ability to kind of incrementally see margin expansion as we get further out from this? Speaker 500:19:24I do think that's Speaker 300:19:25the case, Phil. I think a lot of the industry and ourselves included have caught up to a degree on the lag that we had on deposits or much Closer to our add in market rates. So I think that's the funding pressure will abate some. I think we've been conservative in our NIM modeling in the Assumptions around shift in composition within that portfolio, to the higher costing CDs, which we've seen on the consumer side And recognizing the ICS product, which has a rate to it, as being one of the areas where we've seen growth as well. And then the beta that we've applied to the most current hike that is pretty significant to capture the rest of that lag I think. Speaker 200:20:03Yes. And I would just add on that. We're hearing that from the business lines as well. So if you kind of look back at the second quarter, The delta between what we were where we were pricing and where the markets have moved just kind of widened to a place where customers became Extremely aware and obviously what happened in the Q1 with around liquidity. So every time there was a Fed hike, the customers were almost It's ahead of the Fed hike looking for what's going to happen on their account. Speaker 200:20:35It hasn't happened this go around. So this Fed hike, there was silence. And so We're seeing a much I'm not suggesting that there's not any of it happening, but it was happening network wide and now it might be small pieces. So The expectation is and I think it's consistent with some of what we're hearing from our peers is That slowed down. So the customers closed the gap between or the delta between market And where we were pricing, so kind of feels like it's leveling off. Speaker 200:21:07Secondly, we're not seeing any unusual behaviors from our competition in the marketplace that would result in any dynamic pricing and going into the 3rd Q4. So that also gives me a little bit of solace to say, yes, we are kind of plateauing in that space. So I think Tom's projection on the margin given that all of it is coming nearly from the funding side pressure It is that's why we can make that statement. Secondly, there is another element here in terms of the Fed's hike that Tom and I talk about And that is that our assets will continue to price up and if the behavior on the deposits kind of subsided, we might see we might Add a little bit of benefit in that category to stabilize any further. Speaker 300:21:58On the asset side within the loan book, 52% of that It's a variable rate with 24% within that being floating. We saw the on rate move up to 6.38 I think it was roughly in the second quarter. You saw the portfolio rate at 7.24 and the I'm sorry, the pipeline rate and the portfolio yield currently 5.24. If you look at the average balance growth in loans versus the spot balance too, you can see the average balance is lagging. So some of that production we saw in Q2, we're going to see greater benefit from in Q3. Speaker 300:22:31So all those things are helping to maintain that margin by selling some nice improvement in asset yield over the projection. Speaker 200:22:38But I just I think it's probably a good time for me to also express that as an organization, we're very cognizant on risk And we're not doing anything from a standpoint of trying to stretch in any areas to make up for this margin pressure. We're just going along doing our strong business. We like the nature and quality of the loans that we're putting on. And we feel good about a lot of things Except just that the funding cost is market driven. And other than that, we're staying resilient to our risk management processes. Speaker 100:23:14Perfect. Thank you very much for taking my Speaker 300:23:15questions. Thank you. Operator00:23:18Your next question is from Michael Perito of KBW. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 500:23:27Hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Speaker 300:23:30Good morning, Mike. Speaker 500:23:34Tom, are you able to maybe rehash or update us on kind of where obviously some time has passed, rates Do you have new kind of pro form a capital ratios for the bank assuming Lakeland closes in the back half of the year at some point or a range or just Some guideposts around how you're thinking about that? Speaker 300:23:56Really trying to look where we stand versus Total risk based capital at the bank level, that's the weakest ratio among there. We're in excess of well capitalized levels on our pro form a projections. So, they have improved over the course of the years. Both companies have managed their capital and had good earnings over the course of the 1st 6 months. Speaker 500:24:18So relative to what you guys communicated when the deal was announced, it sounds like they'd be Modestly higher, just based on the capital build at both institutions? Speaker 300:24:29That's correct. Okay. Speaker 500:24:33And I wanted to also just ask on the non interest income side, if you have any, I apologize if I missed this, but if you have any kind of Thoughts on the near term outlook here. And then, Tony, maybe a bigger picture question. I don't know, it's probably not, but there was a Midwest that actually sold its insurance unit for what I thought was a very, very healthy revenue multiple. I know it's a business historically you've been pretty dedicated to and happy with, but just curious about what your thoughts are there, particularly if we're In a position where your loan growth is good and a little extra capital wouldn't hurt, is that an option you would consider or no? And then just again reiterate just Any thoughts on the near term non interest income guide would be great. Speaker 200:25:20Sure. It's not we recognize the value of our Our insurance entity, however, they're producing somewhere around 40% return on that investment. We don't see this strategy peeking out. I think it can continue to elevate and it's part of our Strategic plan to have a greater percentage of our revenue be comprised of non spread income. So I think it's an important part of our strategic planning direction. Speaker 200:25:55And while that's out there and I'm aware of it, I think it's And it's also a great value add for our customers. So that's something that is entwined in there and it's very hard to decouple relative to our strategy. So while that's out there, I think right now it's not a strong probability, but you Just you can't ever say no to anything in our business. Speaker 300:26:22Yes, I mean we like to diversify the revenue stream. We got a 35% EBITDA margin. The business It's contributing nicely. I wouldn't touch it. Just to add to that, Beacon Trust also had a nice quarter. Speaker 300:26:34We see AUM back up $3,700,000,000 at the end of the period, dollars 3,600,000,000 for the quarter, net new clients of 8, about a 22.5% net margin On that business too, so also contributing nicely. Correct. As far as outlook with the total non interest income, Probably being a little conservative, but I just kind of take it about $20,000,000 a quarter in the near term. Speaker 500:27:00Okay. That's very helpful. Thank you guys for taking my questions and all the other color this morning. Appreciate it. Speaker 300:27:07Thanks, Mike. Thanks, Mike. Operator00:27:10Your next question is from Manuel Nieves of D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 600:27:17Hey, good morning. As the NIM stabilizes, Is that Speaker 300:27:24do you Speaker 600:27:25think that NII dollar trough in the 3rd quarter or more in the 4th quarter? Speaker 200:27:35On a quarterly Speaker 600:27:36basis, so Lakeland will ship things. Speaker 300:27:40Yes, yes. It's not everything gets thrown up when the deal closes, but I think Q4 is when we were looking for the Nana and I to draw. Speaker 600:27:51Okay. And then, what's the rough cash flows on securities, If that's part of the funding profile? Speaker 300:28:03Typically throws off between $16,000,000 $20,000,000 a month. Appreciate Speaker 100:28:10it. Speaker 600:28:12And with the kind of the movement of the NIM, what do you In the NIM trajectory, what are you kind of assuming through the cycle deposit betas and kind of where non interest bearing deposit mix ends up? Speaker 300:28:27Yes. We're at 25% through the cycle thus far. I think we're assuming something around 32% for the full Projection period. Sorry, what's the other question? Speaker 600:28:41Non interest bearing deposit mix percentage, like where is it kind of settle out? How much more it could be? Speaker 300:28:46Probably, 2024, 2024. Speaker 600:28:50I would agree. Speaker 300:28:53That's Speaker 600:28:57It's probably early. Do you have any thoughts on kind of how the environment may have shifted kind of The combined targets for Lakeland or kind of more to come on that, I guess, but just any initial thoughts on that? Speaker 500:29:15Yes. I think it's Speaker 300:29:16a little too early to go out there, till we get the balance sheets combined and see where Where the environment stands at that combination date, it would be too speculative. Speaker 600:29:25Okay, very fair. I appreciate the comments. Speaker 300:29:29Thank Speaker 500:29:31you. Operator00:29:31There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to Tony Labozzetto for closing remarks. Speaker 200:29:40Thank you. Well, thank you everyone for being on the call. As we know these are challenging times, I feel really confident in the management team at Provident and I think we'll tackle these challenges head on and outperform. 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There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Thank you for standing by. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Provident Financial Services Inc. 2nd Quarter Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Operator00:00:28Thank you. Adriano Duarte, Investor Relations Officer, you may begin your conference. Speaker 100:00:34Thank you, Cheryl. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our Q2 earnings call. Today's presenters are President and CEO, Tony Labazetta and Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Tom Lyons. Before beginning their review of our financial results, We ask that you please take note of our standard question as to any forward looking statements that may be made during the course of today's call. Our disclaimer our full disclaimer is contained in last evening's earnings release, which has been posted to the Investor Relations page on our website providence. Speaker 100:01:06Bank. Now it's my pleasure to introduce Tony LaVazetta, who will offer his perspective on our Q2. Tony? Speaker 200:01:14Thank you, Adriano. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Provident Financial Services earnings call. The disruption to the banking system and resultant volatility that we all experienced in the Q1 has abated and Provident Bank fared well through the instability. These events, however, combined with more rate hikes by the Federal Reserve gave rise to new headwinds for the banking industry in the form of funding challenges as we headed into the Q2. These funding challenges included More demands by customers for higher rates, needs for more insurance, a disintermediation from low cost deposits to higher yielding time deposits And certain deposits shifting to treasury securities. Speaker 200:01:59Consequently, we experienced higher deposit betas for the quarter, which increased our funding costs and compressed our net interest margin. Despite these unfavorable market conditions, Provident produced good financial results this quarter, which once again demonstrates the strength of our franchise and talented management team. As a result, We've reported earnings of $0.43 per share and annualized return on average assets of 0.93% and a return on average tangible equity of 10.75%. Excluding merger related charges and normalizing the CECL provision For stabilized economic forecast, we estimate our core return on average assets was approximately 1.07 Our capital is strong and comfortably exceeds well capitalized levels. Tangible book value per share expanded 3.6 percent during the 1st 6 months to $15.66 on the strength of our earnings. Speaker 200:03:05Our tangible common equity ratio on June 30 was 8.72%. As such, Our Board of Directors approved a quarterly cash dividend of $0.24 per share payable on August 25. Presently, our uninsured and uncollateralized deposits were $2,700,000,000 or approximately 26% of our total deposits. Our on balance sheet liquidity plus borrowing capacity is $3,800,000,000 or 140 percent of uninsured deposits. Our core deposits are a valuable component of our franchise. Speaker 200:03:43During the quarter, our core deposits decreased $55,000,000 or 0 point 7%, which we attribute to normal business activity and customers seeking higher yields on their deposits. For the Q2, our deposit beta was 148% with the rising rate cycle to date deposit beta was about 25%. Consequently, our total cost of deposits increased and in large part drove our total cost of funds up 50 basis points to 1.71 percent and compressed our net interest margin 37 basis points. Our commercial lending team closed approximately $516,000,000 of new commercial loans during the 2nd quarter. Prepayments decreased 56 percent to $125,000,000 as compared to the trailing quarter. Speaker 200:04:38Our credit metrics remain strong in the 2nd quarter and we continue to maintain prudent underwriting standards, particularly in Cree Lending. As part of our normal Cree monitoring processes, we have performed targeted in-depth Analysis to evaluate portfolio and loan level risks. Our line of credit utilization percentage increased 4% in the second quarter to 35%, which is approaching our historical average of approximately 40%. As a result of the improved production, reduced prepayments And increased line utilization, our commercial loans grew $315,000,000 or 3.6 percent for the quarter. For the 6 months, we grew $296,000,000 or 3.4 percent, which is pacing at an annualized growth rate of about 6.7%. Speaker 200:05:30The pull through in our commercial loan pipeline during the Q2 was good and the gross pipeline remains strong at approximately 1,700,000,000 The pull through adjusted pipeline including loans pending closing is approximately $1,000,000,000 and our projected pipeline rate increased 47 basis points to 7.24 percent. We are encouraged by the strength and quality of our pipeline. In addition, payoffs have slowed. As a result, we expect to achieve our commercial loan lending growth targets for the remainder of 2023. Our fee based businesses performed well this quarter. Speaker 200:06:09Provident Protection Plus had an outstanding second quarter with 82% organic growth, which resulted in a 34% increase in revenue and an 87% increase in operating profit as compared to the same quarter last year. The conditions in the financial markets were more stable in the 2nd quarter And as a result, Beacon Trust experienced growth in market value of assets under management and related fee income. Beacon's fee income remained stable compared to the trailing quarter as the increase in advisory fees was mostly offset by a reduction in trust revenue. With respect to our previously announced merger with Lakeland Bancorp, we continue our engagement with the regulators and have provided Additional information in order to further support our application for approval of the merger. The companies have made significant progress in various integration initiatives through outstanding teamwork from both banks. Speaker 200:07:08We look forward to receiving regulatory approval and combining our 2 great franchises into the best bank in New Jersey. As we look forward, we remain focused on growing our business. However, staying disciplined and committed to our risk management principles is critical during these challenging times. In addition, we expect to close and integrate the merger with Lakeland Bank in the near future, which we believe will create value for all of our stakeholders. Now, I'll turn the call over to Tom for his comments on our financial performance. Speaker 200:07:40Tom? Speaker 300:07:40Thank you, Tony, and good morning, everyone. As Tony noted, our net income for the quarter was $32,000,000 or $0.43 per share compared with $40,500,000 or $0.54 per share for the trailing quarter and $39,200,000 or $0.53 per share for the Q2 of 2022. Non tax deductible charges related to our pending merger with Lakeland Bancorp totaled $2,000,000 in the current quarter and $1,100,000 in the trailing quarter. Excluding these merger related charges, pre tax pre provision earnings for the current quarter were $55,300,000 for an annualized 1.6 percent of average assets. Revenue totaled $118,000,000 for the quarter compared with $130,000,000 for the trailing quarter $120,000,000 for the Q2 of 2022. Speaker 300:08:28Our net interest margin decreased 37 basis points in the trailing quarter to 3.11%. Yield on earning assets improved by 10 basis points versus the trailing quarter as floating and adjustable rate loans repriced favorably New loan originations reflected higher market rates. This improvement in asset yields, however, was more than offset by an increase in interest bearing funding costs. Increased funding costs reflected current market conditions, which resulted in an increase in borrowings accompanied by a decrease in deposits. Certain non interest bearing balances also moved to our interest bearing insured cash sweep product in order to obtain increased deposit insurance. Speaker 300:09:06In addition, lower costing demand and savings balances shifted to higher costing time deposits. The average total cost of deposits increased 37 basis points to 1.42%. This brought our rising rate cycle to date beta to 25%. The average cost of total interest bearing liabilities increased 59 basis points in the trailing quarter to 2.13%. The prolonged inverted yield curve, ongoing deposit competition and an increase in the attractiveness of investment alternatives continue to impact funding costs. Speaker 300:09:38As a result, we expect to see some continued net interest margin compression for the balance of 2023 and project the margin will stabilize at around 3%. Period end total loans grew $306,000,000 with commercial loans increasing $315,000,000 for the quarter. Our pull through adjusted loan pipeline The provision for credit losses on loans increased $4,400,000 for the quarter to $10,400,000 primarily due to a worsened As a result, the allowance to credit losses on loans increased to 97 basis points of total loans at June 30 from 91 basis points at March 31. Current credit metrics, however, were stable and annualized net charge offs were just 4 basis points of loans for the quarter. Non interest income decreased $2,800,000 versus the trailing quarter as a $2,000,000 gain related to a prior quarter sale of REO was realized on the satisfaction of post closing conditions in the trailing quarter. Speaker 300:10:46In addition, deposit fees were down $612,000 versus the trailing quarter and insurance agency income, while ahead of plan for the Q2, was $255,000 less than the seasonally strong Q1. Excluding provisions for credit losses on commitments to extend credit and merger related charges, non interest expense decreased $4,500,000 versus the trailing quarter, with $3,500,000 of that decline coming in compensation and benefits expense as incentive accruals, stock based compensation and employer payroll tax expense were all lower than the trailing quarter. Adjusted operating expenses were an annualized 1.83 percent of average assets for the current quarter compared with 2% in the trailing quarter and 1.92% for the Q2 of 2022. The efficiency ratio was 53.29% for the Q2 of 2023 compared with 51.85 percent in the trailing quarter and 53.83 percent for the Q2 of 2022. That concludes our prepared remarks. Speaker 300:11:44We will be happy to respond to questions. Operator00:11:50Your first question is from Mark Fitzgibbon of Piper Sandler. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 400:11:56Hey, good morning guys. Happy Friday. Speaker 200:11:59Good morning, Mark. Tony, I Speaker 400:12:02wondered if there's anything left that you all need to do or provide to the regulators Or have you sort of done all that? And do you have any rough sense what the timing might look like for closing on the Lakeland deal? Speaker 200:12:20Yes. I mean, what I can say to that is that We have weekly meetings with calls with the FDIC to ensure that any questions that are open or anything that's pending has been provided. So we're when I look at this is like we're on the back end of that, right? We've given them everything that they need to process the application. Will a question or 2 arise during their, what I would call, final analysis? Speaker 200:12:53Sure. But from my perspective, and I know I get guided by counsel not to be To forward on this, it just appears that everything is there and they have to go through their process. And So I'm expecting it to happen relatively soon. Speaker 400:13:12Great. And then second question, Tom, on the expense Trends, obviously, they were great this quarter. And it sounded like Expenses might tick up a little bit in the Q3. Did I hear that correctly? Speaker 300:13:29I think we'll be able to maintain in the $64,000,000 to 60 $5,000,000 range Mark. I think like a lot of our peers, we're cognizant of the pressure that interest margin has put on earnings and we're looking carefully at all our expenses. Speaker 400:13:42Okay. And I heard your comments also on the margin sort of bottoming out around 3%. Is that assumed in the 3rd quarter? Speaker 300:13:52Yes, I think so, Mark. It comes in around 3 and stays there. Speaker 400:13:56Okay. And with the strong pipeline that you have And given sort of the softening economic situation, how are you thinking about provisioning levels for the back half of the year? Speaker 300:14:11I think about the total coverage at 97 basis points, and I don't really see it going much higher than that. That was really responsive to the economic forecast, in The commercial property price index, rely on Moody's baseline for economic forecast and I think they were a little bit slower than some other Forecasters may be in catching up on their view of CRE potential losses. That said, our own book is quite strong as you saw, Really strong in the asset quality metrics overall and no concerns reflected in the current book. Speaker 400:14:44Great. Thank you. Operator00:14:48Your next question is from Billy Young of RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 100:14:55Hey, good morning, guys. Can you hear me okay? Speaker 300:14:58Good morning. Great. Speaker 100:15:02Maybe kind of a 2 part question here to start. First, on loan growth, it Looks like you're set up to have continued nice growth into the Q3 with the stronger adjusted Pull through pipelines. Kind of what are your thoughts? I guess, what are your thoughts on growth in the back half of the year? And then secondly, can you guys give us an update on your thoughts on funding going forward from here, particularly given the loan to deposit ratio at close to 103%. Speaker 200:15:42Sure. I might give it a long winded answer on a 2 part question. So with regards to our lending, We think the pacing that I mentioned during the call at around 6.7% is something that is In the wheelhouse, we still guide to that 5% to 6% growth rate. Pipeline is strong. The activity is strong. Speaker 200:16:06Our underwriting is strong, so we feel pretty good about that sector. One other thing to point out that In the first half of the year, we've seen a substantive growth in the C and I side of the book as well. So there's not that which is consistent with our plan, so not to rely so heavily on CRE lending. So just to give you a quick metric on that, we did about 40% of our production was in C and I versus 27% last year at the same time. So, the teams are doing a good job Executing on that and I'm feeling really good. Speaker 200:16:42In terms of funding, I guess our expectation if I were to just throw it out On a macro basis is that our aim is to probably try to keep deposits stable for the rest of the year. There are I don't think it's prudent to have strategies that to attract because it's very expensive to do that. That being said, we still grow a lot of our deposits through our business banking program. So we still expect some good activity there and growth. On the municipal side, I think that we had new norms and a lot of the excess money that was in municipalities through stimulus has gone out. Speaker 200:17:22So therefore that we don't expect a lot of growth in that sector. And we're aiming to maintain consumer deposits On a level basis and I think if we can do that, it's a good achievement. That being said, how do you fund the growth? We're going to fund it through our business banking growth in terms of deposits. We're going to probably go to the wholesale market if needed, Given that it's a better pricing play than trying to incrementally price your deposits through some campaign. Speaker 200:17:52And lastly, we'll use some securities cash flows that come in to divert those into the lending sector. I think that we're cognizant of loan to deposit ratios not going out of bounds, but our estimates show that they're still within The bands that we want to operate in, so we're comfortable pushing for that 5%, 6% As long as it's good responsible growth because it will also come with some self funding in that category. Speaker 300:18:22I was just going to add with some of our peers stepping back a bit in the lending arena, it affords The ability to continue to be selective both with regard to pricing and structure. So we're getting looks at some quality loans. Exactly. Speaker 200:18:35Long winded answer, Bill. Hopefully, I gave you what you needed. Speaker 100:18:39You did and it wasn't long winded at all. Thanks. And just I guess second question, to kind of follow-up on Mark's questioning on the margin. It sounds like Does it kind of feel like some of the deposit pressures that we saw in the 2nd quarter or Normalizing or getting better so far in the Q3. It sounds like we're pretty close to the margin bottoming here. Speaker 100:19:07And You know, with the Fed's hike earlier this week was the last month of this year, do you guys feel better about Your ability to kind of incrementally see margin expansion as we get further out from this? Speaker 500:19:24I do think that's Speaker 300:19:25the case, Phil. I think a lot of the industry and ourselves included have caught up to a degree on the lag that we had on deposits or much Closer to our add in market rates. So I think that's the funding pressure will abate some. I think we've been conservative in our NIM modeling in the Assumptions around shift in composition within that portfolio, to the higher costing CDs, which we've seen on the consumer side And recognizing the ICS product, which has a rate to it, as being one of the areas where we've seen growth as well. And then the beta that we've applied to the most current hike that is pretty significant to capture the rest of that lag I think. Speaker 200:20:03Yes. And I would just add on that. We're hearing that from the business lines as well. So if you kind of look back at the second quarter, The delta between what we were where we were pricing and where the markets have moved just kind of widened to a place where customers became Extremely aware and obviously what happened in the Q1 with around liquidity. So every time there was a Fed hike, the customers were almost It's ahead of the Fed hike looking for what's going to happen on their account. Speaker 200:20:35It hasn't happened this go around. So this Fed hike, there was silence. And so We're seeing a much I'm not suggesting that there's not any of it happening, but it was happening network wide and now it might be small pieces. So The expectation is and I think it's consistent with some of what we're hearing from our peers is That slowed down. So the customers closed the gap between or the delta between market And where we were pricing, so kind of feels like it's leveling off. Speaker 200:21:07Secondly, we're not seeing any unusual behaviors from our competition in the marketplace that would result in any dynamic pricing and going into the 3rd Q4. So that also gives me a little bit of solace to say, yes, we are kind of plateauing in that space. So I think Tom's projection on the margin given that all of it is coming nearly from the funding side pressure It is that's why we can make that statement. Secondly, there is another element here in terms of the Fed's hike that Tom and I talk about And that is that our assets will continue to price up and if the behavior on the deposits kind of subsided, we might see we might Add a little bit of benefit in that category to stabilize any further. Speaker 300:21:58On the asset side within the loan book, 52% of that It's a variable rate with 24% within that being floating. We saw the on rate move up to 6.38 I think it was roughly in the second quarter. You saw the portfolio rate at 7.24 and the I'm sorry, the pipeline rate and the portfolio yield currently 5.24. If you look at the average balance growth in loans versus the spot balance too, you can see the average balance is lagging. So some of that production we saw in Q2, we're going to see greater benefit from in Q3. Speaker 300:22:31So all those things are helping to maintain that margin by selling some nice improvement in asset yield over the projection. Speaker 200:22:38But I just I think it's probably a good time for me to also express that as an organization, we're very cognizant on risk And we're not doing anything from a standpoint of trying to stretch in any areas to make up for this margin pressure. We're just going along doing our strong business. We like the nature and quality of the loans that we're putting on. And we feel good about a lot of things Except just that the funding cost is market driven. And other than that, we're staying resilient to our risk management processes. Speaker 100:23:14Perfect. Thank you very much for taking my Speaker 300:23:15questions. Thank you. Operator00:23:18Your next question is from Michael Perito of KBW. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 500:23:27Hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Speaker 300:23:30Good morning, Mike. Speaker 500:23:34Tom, are you able to maybe rehash or update us on kind of where obviously some time has passed, rates Do you have new kind of pro form a capital ratios for the bank assuming Lakeland closes in the back half of the year at some point or a range or just Some guideposts around how you're thinking about that? Speaker 300:23:56Really trying to look where we stand versus Total risk based capital at the bank level, that's the weakest ratio among there. We're in excess of well capitalized levels on our pro form a projections. So, they have improved over the course of the years. Both companies have managed their capital and had good earnings over the course of the 1st 6 months. Speaker 500:24:18So relative to what you guys communicated when the deal was announced, it sounds like they'd be Modestly higher, just based on the capital build at both institutions? Speaker 300:24:29That's correct. Okay. Speaker 500:24:33And I wanted to also just ask on the non interest income side, if you have any, I apologize if I missed this, but if you have any kind of Thoughts on the near term outlook here. And then, Tony, maybe a bigger picture question. I don't know, it's probably not, but there was a Midwest that actually sold its insurance unit for what I thought was a very, very healthy revenue multiple. I know it's a business historically you've been pretty dedicated to and happy with, but just curious about what your thoughts are there, particularly if we're In a position where your loan growth is good and a little extra capital wouldn't hurt, is that an option you would consider or no? And then just again reiterate just Any thoughts on the near term non interest income guide would be great. Speaker 200:25:20Sure. It's not we recognize the value of our Our insurance entity, however, they're producing somewhere around 40% return on that investment. We don't see this strategy peeking out. I think it can continue to elevate and it's part of our Strategic plan to have a greater percentage of our revenue be comprised of non spread income. So I think it's an important part of our strategic planning direction. Speaker 200:25:55And while that's out there and I'm aware of it, I think it's And it's also a great value add for our customers. So that's something that is entwined in there and it's very hard to decouple relative to our strategy. So while that's out there, I think right now it's not a strong probability, but you Just you can't ever say no to anything in our business. Speaker 300:26:22Yes, I mean we like to diversify the revenue stream. We got a 35% EBITDA margin. The business It's contributing nicely. I wouldn't touch it. Just to add to that, Beacon Trust also had a nice quarter. Speaker 300:26:34We see AUM back up $3,700,000,000 at the end of the period, dollars 3,600,000,000 for the quarter, net new clients of 8, about a 22.5% net margin On that business too, so also contributing nicely. Correct. As far as outlook with the total non interest income, Probably being a little conservative, but I just kind of take it about $20,000,000 a quarter in the near term. Speaker 500:27:00Okay. That's very helpful. Thank you guys for taking my questions and all the other color this morning. Appreciate it. Speaker 300:27:07Thanks, Mike. Thanks, Mike. Operator00:27:10Your next question is from Manuel Nieves of D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Speaker 600:27:17Hey, good morning. As the NIM stabilizes, Is that Speaker 300:27:24do you Speaker 600:27:25think that NII dollar trough in the 3rd quarter or more in the 4th quarter? Speaker 200:27:35On a quarterly Speaker 600:27:36basis, so Lakeland will ship things. Speaker 300:27:40Yes, yes. It's not everything gets thrown up when the deal closes, but I think Q4 is when we were looking for the Nana and I to draw. Speaker 600:27:51Okay. And then, what's the rough cash flows on securities, If that's part of the funding profile? Speaker 300:28:03Typically throws off between $16,000,000 $20,000,000 a month. Appreciate Speaker 100:28:10it. Speaker 600:28:12And with the kind of the movement of the NIM, what do you In the NIM trajectory, what are you kind of assuming through the cycle deposit betas and kind of where non interest bearing deposit mix ends up? Speaker 300:28:27Yes. We're at 25% through the cycle thus far. I think we're assuming something around 32% for the full Projection period. Sorry, what's the other question? Speaker 600:28:41Non interest bearing deposit mix percentage, like where is it kind of settle out? How much more it could be? Speaker 300:28:46Probably, 2024, 2024. Speaker 600:28:50I would agree. Speaker 300:28:53That's Speaker 600:28:57It's probably early. Do you have any thoughts on kind of how the environment may have shifted kind of The combined targets for Lakeland or kind of more to come on that, I guess, but just any initial thoughts on that? Speaker 500:29:15Yes. I think it's Speaker 300:29:16a little too early to go out there, till we get the balance sheets combined and see where Where the environment stands at that combination date, it would be too speculative. Speaker 600:29:25Okay, very fair. I appreciate the comments. Speaker 300:29:29Thank Speaker 500:29:31you. Operator00:29:31There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to Tony Labozzetto for closing remarks. Speaker 200:29:40Thank you. Well, thank you everyone for being on the call. As we know these are challenging times, I feel really confident in the management team at Provident and I think we'll tackle these challenges head on and outperform. So to that end, we look forward to getting together next quarter and sharing with you our results. Have a good day. Operator00:30:02This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by