NYSE:ATR AptarGroup Q2 2023 Earnings Report $149.17 -2.29 (-1.51%) Closing price 04/25/2025 03:59 PM EasternExtended Trading$149.06 -0.10 (-0.07%) As of 04/25/2025 04:06 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast AptarGroup EPS ResultsActual EPS$1.23Consensus EPS $1.13Beat/MissBeat by +$0.10One Year Ago EPS$0.96AptarGroup Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$895.91 millionExpected Revenue$898.89 millionBeat/MissMissed by -$2.98 millionYoY Revenue Growth+6.10%AptarGroup Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2023Date7/28/2023TimeAfter Market ClosesConference Call DateFriday, July 28, 2023Conference Call Time9:00AM ETUpcoming EarningsAptarGroup's Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Thursday, May 1, 2025, with a conference call scheduled on Friday, May 2, 2025 at 9:00 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Conference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)SEC FilingEarnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by AptarGroup Q2 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJuly 28, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to Aptar 2023 Second Quarter Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session. Introducing today's conference call is Ms. Operator00:00:17Mary Grosidis, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and Communications. Please go Speaker 100:00:23ahead. Thank you. Hello, everyone, and thanks for being with us today. Joining me on today's call are Stephane Tanda, President and CEO And Bob Kyun, Executive Vice President and CFO. Our press release and accompanying slide deck have been posted on our website. Speaker 100:00:40If you are following along on our website, you can advance the slides by hovering over the presentation screen and clicking on the arrows on the right and left. As always, we will post a replay of this call on our website. Today's call includes some forward looking statements. Please refer to our SEC filings to review factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from what we are discussing today. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Stephane. Speaker 200:01:07Thank you, Mary, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us on the call today. I will begin my remarks by highlighting our results for the Q2. Later in the call, Bob Kyun, our CFO, will provide additional details. Starting on Slide 3 for the Q2, I'm pleased to report that Aptar achieved core sales growth of 4% and delivered double digit adjusted EPS growth with Q2 lending at $1.23 per share due to the continued strong demand for our pharma proprietary dosing and Dispensing Systems as well as our fragrance dispensing technologies. Speaker 200:01:44We guided our adjusted earnings per share for the Q2 to be in the range of 1.11 to $1.19 Our adjusted EPS result includes a $0.04 impact from start up costs related to our injectables expansion program And the rollout of a new enterprise resource planning or ERP system. Our pharma segment had a very strong first half of the year. In Q2, the robust demand for our proprietary drug delivery systems once again grew across The majority of end use categories, including nasal decongestions, saline rinses, eye care And cold and cough as well as allergic rhinitis, emergency medicines, asthma and COPD therapies. Our growth in these categories was largely in line with market demand, except for emergency medicine. Revenue from our proprietary drug delivery Systems represents about 26% of total company revenue for Aptar in 2022 and is our most profitable area due to our institutional know how and experience navigating the stringent regulatory requirements in the industry. Speaker 200:02:55Over the course Of the first half of twenty twenty three, more than 85 products and medications using our proprietary drug delivery systems were launched globally. These launches will help us continue to deliver consistent growth well into the future. Today, more than half of all drugs being developed Initiated by small to midsized pharma companies, a drug product can take anywhere from 5 to 12 years to come to market. These early developers have limited experience with the long regulatory approval processes, relying on our decades of regulatory Please help support their efforts. Over the last several years, we have also added a suite of services ranging from clinical trial and regulatory filing support to patient onboarding and digital therapeutic capabilities, reinforcing the stickiness of our business and further positioning Aptar as a pharma partner of choice. Speaker 200:03:52These upstream and downstream services also add additional revenue in the form of Service fees, milestone payments and or royalties. As we mentioned last quarter, the one area where we currently anticipate Inventory buildup in the chain is in emergency medicines such as Narcan and generic naloxone. In preparation for these opioid overdose Reversal medications going over the counter or OTC later this summer. We anticipate demand for the OTC channel to moderate over However, this has historically been a very lumpy business for us and demand is hard to predict. In addition to opioid overdose reversal medications, technologies for the dosing and dispensing of emergency medicine include allergic reaction therapies and medicines that help regulate glucose levels, representing less than 3% of total company revenue for Aptar in 2022. Speaker 200:04:53While this is a growing area for us, the success of our Pharma segment due to our robust pipeline across many application fields. For injectables, the impact of startup costs And the implementation of a new ERP system was about $0.04 The main issues of the ERP implementation have been addressed. However, we expect to continue to experience a drag of $0.03 to $0.04 per quarter due to start up costs for the new investment. This is a slight increase from the previous range of $0.02 to $0.03 Our injectables division sales Quarter 2 were flat compared to the previous year's quarter, but when compared to quarter 1 2023, Sales increased by more than 50%. Recently, there has been a lot of news coverage on GLP-1 drugs And their projected growth. Speaker 200:05:45As we stated last quarter, we are supplying components to 3 of these drugs with customers starting to Here are the future capacity requirements. Sales from elastomeric components were approximately 9% of total company revenue for Aptar in 2022. Our new capacity expansions coming online through the end of 2024 We'll increase our ability to focus on premium solutions and higher value products, which are ideal for biologics such as GLP-one drugs. In our Beauty segment, we saw solid volume growth of our dispensing solutions for prestige and mass fragrance as well as color cosmetics. 2 exciting milestones for our Beauty business also took place recently. Speaker 200:06:31Some 2 weeks ago, we were joined by key customers, Local and national government officials at the grand opening of our new state of the art beauty site in Oyu Nayyunat, France, focused on providing our fragrance, color cosmetic and facial skincare customers with unique customized Packaging solutions that help differentiate their branded products and enhance the consumer experience. Currently, only very few companies around the world Can produce these types of highly technical solutions with the same level of quality. We are excited about the opportunities that this new site will afford us And customer feedback continues to be very positive. Early in the month, our beauty plant in L'Oreal du Bois, France, which produces many of our fragrance pumps and is the site where our pharma business originally started out, celebrated 60 years of manufacturing excellence. Moving to Slide 4, we are pleased to share our ESG milestones and achievements From the past year with the release of our annual corporate sustainability report, which is prepared in accordance with the Global Reporting Initiative or GRI standards And shows our alignment to the UN Sustainable Development Goals. Speaker 200:07:49We continue to view our leading position in the sustainability space As a competitive advantage, doing right by the planet, designing products that foster circularity And attracting and retaining top talent aligned with our mission is simply good business. Aptar continues to be recognized for our achievements in this space, most recently being named 1 of America's Climate Leaders 2023 by USA Today On its inaugural list of 400 U. S. Companies, we are 1st in our industry sector and 24th among companies who achieved The greatest reduction in their core emissions intensity between 2019 2021, that is Scope 1 and Scope 2 Greenhouse Gas Emissions in relation to revenue. We were also named a 2023 Diversity Champion by Capital, a leading economic magazine in France, in collaboration with Statista. Speaker 200:08:50Out of 6,000 participating companies, Aptar ranked 96 overall and within the pharma industry was ranked Number 4 out of 162 companies assessed. During the quarter, we also launched a number of new products as outlined on Slide 5. In pharma, a new pain management medication in Europe has selected our proprietary spray pump with an electronic counter and lockout device. Bayer's anti inflammatory and pain relieving throat spray is using our proprietary dispensing technology And our proprietary metering valve technology is featured on an asthma and COPD inhaler in China. Our active material moisture protection solution, Active Vial, will be featured on a probiotic in France. Speaker 200:09:39In Beauty, our fully recyclable mono material pump is the dispensing solution for J and J's Neutrogena hydration body lotion in Europe. And Guerlain uses our pump on a hair care and skin care foundation line. In closures, our snap top closure with flow control valve is used in Helman's new inverted garlic aioli product. In Personal Care, Bath and Body Works is featuring our disc top dispensing closure on a new line of hair care products. Looking to Slide 6. Speaker 200:10:11In the first half of twenty twenty three, we returned approximately $79,000,000 to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases. Additionally, on July 13, We are on track for our 30th consecutive year of paying an increased total annual dividend, And we'll continue to focus on creating value for our shareholders. Now I would like to turn the call over to Bob. Bob? Speaker 300:10:48Thank you, Stephane, and good morning, everyone. Starting on Slide 7, I would like to summarize the quarter. Our reported sales increased 6%. When we neutralized for currencies and acquisitions, our core sales grew 4%, Primarily due to strong demand for proprietary drug delivery systems across the majority of the application fields, including allergic rhinitis, Emergency medicine, asthma, COPD, nasal decongestants, saline rinses, cough and cold as well as eye care. Additionally, we saw continued strong demand for our dispensing technologies for both prestige and mass fragrance. Speaker 300:11:28As shown on Slide 8, we reported 2nd quarter adjusted earnings per share of $1.23 This represents A 26% increase over prior year adjusted EPS. We achieved adjusted EBITDA of 181,000,000 which was an increase of 13% from the prior year's Q2. Turning to some of the details by segment for the quarter, Our pharma segment's core sales increased 13%. Approximately 11% of the continued growth came from increased volumes, especially for our proprietary drug delivery systems. Looking at sales in the pharma segment by market, prescription core sales increased 23%, primarily due to continued strong demand for dosing and dispensing technologies for allergic rhinitis, emergency medicine, asthma and COPD therapies. Speaker 300:12:19Consumer Healthcare core sales increased 19% on healthy demand for nasal decongestants, saline rinses, Eye Care and Cough and Cold Applications. Core sales for our elastomer solutions for the injectables market increased 1%. While demand for our elastomeric components was strong, shipping days were impacted by an ongoing ERP system migration. The main issues for this implementation have been resolved, and we don't expect this impact to repeat in the second half of the year. Turning to our Active Material Science Solutions, Core sales decreased 13% due to softening in demand for probiotics after a period of rapid growth and a decrease in active vials used in Diabetes Care Products. Speaker 300:13:03Pharma's adjusted EBITDA margin was 32%, which included start up costs for the injectables division capacity expansion And ERP system implementation of approximately $4,000,000 We expect an impact of $3,000,000 to $4,000,000 per quarter for the remainder of the year. Our Beauty segment's core sales increased 3% due to a mix of pricing and volume growth. We continue to see double digit growth in both our Prestige and Mass Fragrance Regionally, Europe continues to perform well with sales and adjusted EBITDA margins well within our long term target range. While volumes in China are low, we are currently seeing progressive improvements. Latin America had good sales growth, especially in Nastige Fragrance. Speaker 300:13:47North America, where we produce more personal care and home care dispensing solutions, continues to be affected by lower customer demand due to excess inventories. Lastly, our full packaging solution, which primarily serves indie beauty brands for the North American market, is starting to rebound after being negatively affected by COVID. Looking at the Beauty segment by market, Beauty core sales increased 11%, driven by higher sales in both prestige and mass fragrance As well as color cosmetic solutions, beauty represents about 2 thirds of our overall sales in the segment. Personal Care core sales decreased 6% with lower demand in several end use categories in North America, while Europe showed stable growth in the quarter. Home Care core sales, which represents 4% of the Beauty segment sales, decreased 29% Due to lower sales in North America, Asia and Europe across several categories, including air care and surface disinfectants, Home Care sales grew in Latin America, but off a small base. Speaker 300:14:53This segment's adjusted EBITDA margin for the quarter was 13%. The closure segment's core sales decreased 8% compared with the prior year's quarter. About half the impact for the quarter is due to the pass through of lower resin prices. Additionally, sales were impacted by lower volumes in Personal Care and Home Care as customers continued to work through their inventory levels, primarily in North America. Europe and Asia had modest sales growth. Speaker 300:15:20Looking at the closure segment by market, food core sales decreased 7%, Primarily due to lower demand in North America. From an application field perspective, sauces and condiments were down, while food service trays were up. Beverage core sales decreased 2% due to the pass through of lower resin prices. However, sales in Europe increased, which is our largest beverage market. Personal Care core sales decreased 17% due primarily to lower demand and continued destocking in North America. Speaker 300:15:52In our 4th category, which includes Beauty, Home Care and Healthcare, core sales decreased 6%, primarily due to lower demand globally, although there was good growth for beauty dispensing closures in Europe and home care closures in Latin America and Asia. From an application field perspective, Laundry Care and Surface Cleaner Solutions were down, while Dish Care sales continued to increase. The segment's adjusted EBITDA margin was 16%. This signifies a 5 point improvement over the same period last year Due to our continued focus on operational leverage as well as the effects of passing on lower resin prices. For our 3 large capital projects, our injectables capacity expansion projects, our state of the art beauty site in France and our new site in China that will service all three of our segments. Speaker 300:16:41We spent about $21,000,000 in the quarter. As we have mentioned, 2 of our 3 large capital projects have come online in the first half of twenty twenty three. Reported depreciation and amortization expense increased 6 percent over the prior year quarter to approximately $62,000,000 or 7% of sales. Slide 9 and 10 cover our year to date performance And show the 4% core sales growth and our adjusted earnings per share, which were $2.18 up 14% compared to the $1.91 a year ago, including comparable exchange rates. Year to date cash flow from operations was $182,000,000 up from the 177,000,000 due to improvements in earnings. Speaker 300:17:24Moving to Slide 11, which summarizes our outlook for the Q3. We anticipate our strong momentum to continue and expect 3rd quarter adjusted earnings per share, excluding any restructuring expenses, acquisition costs and changes in the unrealized fair value of equity investments to be in the range of $1.23 to $1.31 per share. The estimated tax rate range for the Q3 is 25% to 27%. In the Q3, we expect to have a $0.03 to $0.04 impact in start up costs from our injectables expansion program, which we expect to repeat again in Q4. Additionally, we are expecting some currency tailwinds compared to the prior year. Speaker 300:18:05For example, the euro rate for the prior year Q3 was 101 and our guidance for the coming Q3 is assuming a €109 rate. We have said that roughly for every one point move in the euro rate, that equates to roughly $0.02 per share for the full year. So for the coming quarter, we are looking at approximately a $0.06 currency benefit on earnings compared to the prior year due to the euro rate as well as other currency movements. We currently estimate depreciation and amortization for 2023 to be between $230,000,000 to $240,000,000 Our capital expenditures in 2023, net of any government grants, is estimated to be around $300,000,000 including a capacity expansion investment for our pharma proprietary drug delivery systems. In closing, we continue to have a strong balance sheet with a leverage ratio of 1.8, which allows us to continue to invest in the business, Pursue strategic opportunities and continue to return value to shareholders in the form of dividends and repurchases. Speaker 300:19:08In addition to our cash dividend payment to shareholders, which totaled $24,900,000 in the quarter, we repurchased approximately 81,000 shares for approximately $9,300,000 At this time, Stephane will provide a few closing comments before we move to Q and A. Speaker 200:19:25Thanks, Bob. In closing, we are energized for the future as many of the measures we have taken over the past years progressively come to fruition. The first half of the year is off to a strong start with solid demand continuing into quarter 3. The pipeline for our pharma proprietary drug delivery systems continues to build. We are excited about the new opportunities that our expanded injectable capabilities will bring as they come online through the end of 2024. Speaker 200:19:56Demand for our elastomeric components is increasing, Keeping pace with the fast growing Biologics markets reserve. The Beauty segment continues to perform well in Europe, which represents more than half of our revenue driven by global beauty companies based in Europe, with Latin America also improving very nicely and China We are one of the global leaders in fragrance dispensing and have introduced New technologies that our customers are excited about. And as a result, fragrance has grown double digits in the 1st 6 months of the year And our order book looks strong heading into the Q3. Equally important, the team has done an excellent job in focusing increasingly on reducing cost While growing the top line, this determined effort to increase our operating leverage and drive productivity is very much continuing. Before opening up the call, I wanted to be sure to recognize and thank 2 long serving directors who have decided in recent months to retire from their service on our Board, Andreas Krambes and Maritza Gomez Montiel. Speaker 200:21:05Both have made tremendous contributions to Aptar over their many years of service. Maritza joined our Board in 2015 and served as the Head of our Audit Committee for most of her tenure. Andreas was a member of the Board since 2014, and we benefited from his extensive global industrial operating experience. Also on behalf of my fellow directors, I want to express our thanks to both Maritza and Andreas for their guidance, support and wisdom over the years. With that, I now would like to open the call up for your questions. Operator00:21:52Please limit yourself to 2 questions and then come back into the queue if you have more questions as time allows. We have the first question from Ghansham Panjali of Baird. Speaker 400:22:16Good morning. I guess, first off, Stefan, maybe you could just touch on what drove the acceleration in pharma Sales in 2Q, I think it was up 7% in the 1st quarter, up 13% in the second. You mentioned NARCAN, etcetera, and lumpiness associated with that. But just help us bridge the acceleration between the two quarters. Speaker 500:22:38Sure. I guess primarily, Ghansham, it is that the injectable business was delivering At a much higher rate being up more than 50% versus the Q1, while the sales level for The proprietary dispensing device business maintains at a strong level. And of course, the comparison to prior year also Plays a role, but the main acceleration is in injectable business. Speaker 400:23:13Got it. And then as it relates to the Strength that you're calling out in fragrance and prestige, etcetera. Where is the business relative to the pre COVID baseline? There's just so much noise in between 2019 and now. Just curious as to where we are relative to the previous baseline from 20 Speaker 600:23:35Sure. Gantan, I can take that. We're above 2019 levels in terms of both Units and dollars. So, we're back above the pre COVID levels. Speaker 400:23:51Thank Operator00:23:56you. Thank you. We now have George Staphos, Bank of America. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:24:03Hi, everyone. Good morning. Thanks for the details. My two questions are on pharma. I guess, first of all, can you touch on why you needed to raise the Headwind guidance, if you will, by a penny or so the next couple of quarters for the ERP implementation. Speaker 700:24:21And relatedly, what gives you confidence that it's behind you by 2024. And then on the pipeline and volume standpoint for pharma, What do you want us to take away in terms of how GLP-one drugs and for that matter emergency medicine Pipeline filling will mean 4 year volumes and how we should model for that over coming quarters. Thank you, guys. Speaker 500:24:49Sure. So what's the first question? Speaker 600:24:55The first question I can handle the head The $0.01. Yes. It actually is not the ERP, George. It's really more the ongoing Validation of the new capacity expansion, we've added the additional penny primarily due to the additional labor that we've got As the business stabilizes through the ERP, we have every intention of reducing that as the year goes on. But it's mostly an increase in the labor side, but primarily making sure that the validation goes as expected. Speaker 500:25:30Yes. And let me just add, I know that this pharma capacity addition world It's frustrating if you live in industrial world. But basically, you build the plant, then you staff it, You make products and then you wait. It goes to the product, it goes to the customer, they need to be validated, everything needs to be checked out And a year later then you actually have ongoing business. So those of you who remember when we first started up Congress, it took 18 months Thanks for the validation too. Speaker 500:26:09Now this $180,000,000 program for injectables It's in phases, so we can validate the phases as we go along. But all of this adds cost Next to the labor, you have product that you essentially throw away. And that's just the nature of the pharma business. So it's not like in Industrial side, you built the plant, you put the machines and then you're off to erase it. It just takes an extra time. Speaker 500:26:38And given the rough ERP Starting in the Q1, we just want to be sure that we have the right support as we ramp up those plans. Now on your second question, Look, we're not updating our ranges, our guidance ranges, the long term target. If we do that, that would At the Capital Markets Day, but clearly what we want to signal is we feel good about the pipeline. We We feel increasingly good about the pipeline. We are in some capacity in all the 3 major brands That are out there, both semaglutide and the trisepatide. Speaker 500:27:20And If we had weak volumes in injectables, it's due to the ERP system, not to market demand. And So whatever we lost if you want in terms of vaccine, less vaccine business was easily replaced with And as we mentioned in the Customers are securing future demand. I mean massive investments going to ground from our customers. There is a company in Indiana that There's a capacity in the 1,000,000,000 of dollars. So they want to make sure that all the components are there. Speaker 500:28:07So Clearly, barring any unforeseen discovery of negative side effects, these are blockbuster drugs that will need a robust With respect to the emergency medications, there's really 2 things to take away. One is, more and more People find that the best access to the brain is via the nose as opposed to sending drugs through the digestive system and hope they Make it to the bloodstream and hope to make it to the brain. So, and for emergency medicines that are rapidly acting, that's increasingly important. So, we just see the pipeline growing there. That's point 1. Speaker 500:28:46Point 2, we have to believe that there is inventory buildup in the chain For NARCAN, as everybody is getting ready to launch it over the counter. It has been approved. But how much that is exactly and when that will normalize, we really can't tell you. I mean, it's hard enough to forecast these days, But given that this stuff next to going into the pharmacy chain goes to schools and firefighters and airlines and what have you, It's very hard to predict. Having said that, please remember last year all emergency medicines were about 3% of overall And with that, while we're excited about many of these projects, In our business, there's no single project that is a big needle mover. Speaker 500:29:42It is a numbers game, The numbers game looks good. The pipeline is continuing to strengthen because of the conversion I mentioned. And obviously, also we're Excited about GLP-one. Also there, I want to caution you that the injected business is not our largest business. So it's It's exciting growth. Speaker 500:30:04It's about 9% of total company revenue. It's exciting growth in the context of the overall size of that injectable business. Speaker 800:30:13Thank you very much. Operator00:30:17Thank you. We now have Daniel Rizzo with Jefferies. Please go ahead when you're ready. Speaker 900:30:25Good morning. Just one question. So you mentioned it takes 5 to 12 years sometimes to get a drug to market for the small And midsized companies. I was wondering when you guys get involved in that process. Is it from the beginning that you have to be there? Speaker 900:30:37Is the pipeline that long? Or is it later, I mean closer towards launch? Speaker 500:30:43No. We are in there for the duration. That's the strength we bring To this industry, to give you two example, NARCAN, There was an existing device. We had a unidose device. Naloxone was an existing molecule. Speaker 500:31:03We worked with a small company at the time. And that took 5 years to take an existing molecule, an existing device and get this new indication or administration approved. Another example is Pravato, J and J, that's a 12 year program. Existing molecule, esketamine, has been well known and documented, For the new device, our biodose, it took 12 years. Now in that context, it's important why we have the service businesses and why we strengthen the service Because we, 1, have the expertise that we can provide, but we can also derive revenues. Speaker 500:31:43So we bill fee for service. We bill for milestone payments. Sometimes we negotiate royalties. So in that pipeline period, we make also decent money. Of course, we make much more money than when the devices are selling. Speaker 500:32:02But it is important because once the development is concluded and approved, our device is in the drug master file. And that sets it up for a very, very long runway. Speaker 900:32:17And then is Seasonally speaking, with cough and cold, I assume that Q3 will be historically speaking is the strongest and that there is lumpiness there as well So that we'll see a surge and then there could be a cooling add for that? Speaker 500:32:33Yes. I mean, in our outlook, we basically say we look the 3rd quarter looks strong, pretty much copy paste from the Q2 and there's a Different product mix, but I wouldn't see a particular surge in quarter 3 here. Thank you. Operator00:33:01Thank you. Your next question comes from Gabe Hajde of Wells Fargo Securities. Speaker 800:33:10Stephan, Bob, good morning. I wanted to ask it very much a short term, I apologize in advance, short term nearsighted question, but One of your customers on the injectable side had a weather event. And I was just curious if you guys have any Perspective, point of view about how that could impact your own operations, I don't necessarily know how to think about that. Speaker 500:33:38Look, we cannot talk about any particular customers, but not from my Aptar experience, but previous experience. Look, If you get in leather, it's all in how you react and how quickly you react. And I mean all the Participants here are highly experienced and you can only rely on them Taking this serious and reacting with a vengeance. It doesn't happen all the time, but It's all in how you react to it. Okay. Speaker 800:34:17And then I guess The 2 facilities that you were consolidating here in North America, I think there were some labor disruptions and things like that that were sort of hindering profitability. Can you remind us what savings you are expecting to kind of get out of that? Is it sort of in the rearview mirror? And then I guess on a new reporting structure, Where would we expect to kind of see that show up? I suspect the closures. Speaker 800:34:44You talked about the 500 basis points Of improvement on the margin year over year, but just clarification there. Speaker 500:34:54Yes. I mean, it's been now some time. As a reminder for everyone, just as COVID Again, we shut down 2 facilities in Connecticut and absorbedwe're planning to absorb Those activities into our facilities in the Midwest and the East Coast and in Mexico, That was not as well executed as we would like. We've said that before. We lost some share in the process. Speaker 500:35:25And part of that challenge was as We then recovery started, we couldn't get the labor and customers were not pleased. That all is behind us. We did close another facility in the Midwest In quarter 1, benefit of that, you do indeed see enclosures. So that's part of the margin improvement. And given that our service levels are back to normal and in fact very competitive And the regionalization of supply chains, we are back on the front foot in North America. Speaker 500:36:10And the third point is, of course, we suffer like everyone else from the almost mysterious destocking in some markets. We see that pretty much having run its course in the food side, but it still continues in the personal care and home care side. Thank you, Stefan. Operator00:36:35Thank As we have had no questions registered, I'd like to hand it back to Mr. Tanda for some final remarks. Speaker 500:36:57Thank you. So let's take a step back for a moment. As I mentioned, The management team here is very energized about the future. And that is because A lot of the hard work, many of the measures that we have taken over the past years are now progressively coming to fruition to a point where you can actually see them in our results. Whether it is a much stronger and deeper talent bench or teams that we have on the field That is also leading to disciplined execution, whether it is the much more capable, modern and efficient asset base that we have put in place As well as renovated or updated, Whether it is renewed innovation delivered in our innovation centers in Asia, in the U. Speaker 500:37:51S. And in Europe, leading to enthusiastic customer engagement and excitement that I mentioned. And last not least, a much more vigorous and systematic cost All of these improvements starting to show and are behind the double digit EPS growth. If we look back at the first half, Of course, we have reached growth in Rx and CHC, in our proprietary dispensing devices and Injectables is now recovering nicely with good demand picture looking forward. Beauty is growing nicely in Europe And recovery in China and both Europe and China are in the profitability target range. Speaker 500:38:37SG and A as a percentage of revenue is coming down. And I also want to make the point that the absolute EBITDA growth, The combined Beauty and Closures is actually more than the EBITDA growth in pharma for the first half. Of course, pharma has been held back with the injectable ERP deployment, but 14% EBITDA growth Beauty and Coors combined in quarter 2 also see that these businesses are starting to deliver, as I said earlier. Now when we look at Q3, it's pretty much a copy of Q2. We will see, of course, growth in injectables year over year and Rx and CHG continue to perform strongly. Speaker 500:39:20Same for Beauty with Europe pulling. And of course, when we say Europe, It's our customers in Europe who supply the world. So it's not so much related to the European consumer as opposed to the overall global beauty industry. Latin America is doing well and China is growing, albeit at a much slower pace than initially thought. North America, the food destocking has hopefully run its course, but personal care and home care is still a drag. Speaker 500:39:50And for those of you who follow the exchange rate, this is now becoming a tailwind rather than having been a headwind for the last few years. So we look forward to provide more updates and insights of our Capital Markets Day in September, but suffice to say that the team here is laser focused On executing on our growth plans, leveraging the investments that are coming on stream, we are deep into Multi year cost actions that start already to contribute and we are by far not out of ideas How to drive productivity from there. The dividend increase that you've seen should be a clear signal. And of course, we continue to maintain a Healthy balance sheet that provides us the opportunity to take advantage of any opportunities that arise. With that, I wish you all a good rest of the summer, and we will see you in September. Operator00:40:53Thank you all for joining. I can confirm that does conclude today's call. 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There are 10 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to Aptar 2023 Second Quarter Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session. Introducing today's conference call is Ms. Operator00:00:17Mary Grosidis, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and Communications. Please go Speaker 100:00:23ahead. Thank you. Hello, everyone, and thanks for being with us today. Joining me on today's call are Stephane Tanda, President and CEO And Bob Kyun, Executive Vice President and CFO. Our press release and accompanying slide deck have been posted on our website. Speaker 100:00:40If you are following along on our website, you can advance the slides by hovering over the presentation screen and clicking on the arrows on the right and left. As always, we will post a replay of this call on our website. Today's call includes some forward looking statements. Please refer to our SEC filings to review factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from what we are discussing today. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Stephane. Speaker 200:01:07Thank you, Mary, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us on the call today. I will begin my remarks by highlighting our results for the Q2. Later in the call, Bob Kyun, our CFO, will provide additional details. Starting on Slide 3 for the Q2, I'm pleased to report that Aptar achieved core sales growth of 4% and delivered double digit adjusted EPS growth with Q2 lending at $1.23 per share due to the continued strong demand for our pharma proprietary dosing and Dispensing Systems as well as our fragrance dispensing technologies. Speaker 200:01:44We guided our adjusted earnings per share for the Q2 to be in the range of 1.11 to $1.19 Our adjusted EPS result includes a $0.04 impact from start up costs related to our injectables expansion program And the rollout of a new enterprise resource planning or ERP system. Our pharma segment had a very strong first half of the year. In Q2, the robust demand for our proprietary drug delivery systems once again grew across The majority of end use categories, including nasal decongestions, saline rinses, eye care And cold and cough as well as allergic rhinitis, emergency medicines, asthma and COPD therapies. Our growth in these categories was largely in line with market demand, except for emergency medicine. Revenue from our proprietary drug delivery Systems represents about 26% of total company revenue for Aptar in 2022 and is our most profitable area due to our institutional know how and experience navigating the stringent regulatory requirements in the industry. Speaker 200:02:55Over the course Of the first half of twenty twenty three, more than 85 products and medications using our proprietary drug delivery systems were launched globally. These launches will help us continue to deliver consistent growth well into the future. Today, more than half of all drugs being developed Initiated by small to midsized pharma companies, a drug product can take anywhere from 5 to 12 years to come to market. These early developers have limited experience with the long regulatory approval processes, relying on our decades of regulatory Please help support their efforts. Over the last several years, we have also added a suite of services ranging from clinical trial and regulatory filing support to patient onboarding and digital therapeutic capabilities, reinforcing the stickiness of our business and further positioning Aptar as a pharma partner of choice. Speaker 200:03:52These upstream and downstream services also add additional revenue in the form of Service fees, milestone payments and or royalties. As we mentioned last quarter, the one area where we currently anticipate Inventory buildup in the chain is in emergency medicines such as Narcan and generic naloxone. In preparation for these opioid overdose Reversal medications going over the counter or OTC later this summer. We anticipate demand for the OTC channel to moderate over However, this has historically been a very lumpy business for us and demand is hard to predict. In addition to opioid overdose reversal medications, technologies for the dosing and dispensing of emergency medicine include allergic reaction therapies and medicines that help regulate glucose levels, representing less than 3% of total company revenue for Aptar in 2022. Speaker 200:04:53While this is a growing area for us, the success of our Pharma segment due to our robust pipeline across many application fields. For injectables, the impact of startup costs And the implementation of a new ERP system was about $0.04 The main issues of the ERP implementation have been addressed. However, we expect to continue to experience a drag of $0.03 to $0.04 per quarter due to start up costs for the new investment. This is a slight increase from the previous range of $0.02 to $0.03 Our injectables division sales Quarter 2 were flat compared to the previous year's quarter, but when compared to quarter 1 2023, Sales increased by more than 50%. Recently, there has been a lot of news coverage on GLP-1 drugs And their projected growth. Speaker 200:05:45As we stated last quarter, we are supplying components to 3 of these drugs with customers starting to Here are the future capacity requirements. Sales from elastomeric components were approximately 9% of total company revenue for Aptar in 2022. Our new capacity expansions coming online through the end of 2024 We'll increase our ability to focus on premium solutions and higher value products, which are ideal for biologics such as GLP-one drugs. In our Beauty segment, we saw solid volume growth of our dispensing solutions for prestige and mass fragrance as well as color cosmetics. 2 exciting milestones for our Beauty business also took place recently. Speaker 200:06:31Some 2 weeks ago, we were joined by key customers, Local and national government officials at the grand opening of our new state of the art beauty site in Oyu Nayyunat, France, focused on providing our fragrance, color cosmetic and facial skincare customers with unique customized Packaging solutions that help differentiate their branded products and enhance the consumer experience. Currently, only very few companies around the world Can produce these types of highly technical solutions with the same level of quality. We are excited about the opportunities that this new site will afford us And customer feedback continues to be very positive. Early in the month, our beauty plant in L'Oreal du Bois, France, which produces many of our fragrance pumps and is the site where our pharma business originally started out, celebrated 60 years of manufacturing excellence. Moving to Slide 4, we are pleased to share our ESG milestones and achievements From the past year with the release of our annual corporate sustainability report, which is prepared in accordance with the Global Reporting Initiative or GRI standards And shows our alignment to the UN Sustainable Development Goals. Speaker 200:07:49We continue to view our leading position in the sustainability space As a competitive advantage, doing right by the planet, designing products that foster circularity And attracting and retaining top talent aligned with our mission is simply good business. Aptar continues to be recognized for our achievements in this space, most recently being named 1 of America's Climate Leaders 2023 by USA Today On its inaugural list of 400 U. S. Companies, we are 1st in our industry sector and 24th among companies who achieved The greatest reduction in their core emissions intensity between 2019 2021, that is Scope 1 and Scope 2 Greenhouse Gas Emissions in relation to revenue. We were also named a 2023 Diversity Champion by Capital, a leading economic magazine in France, in collaboration with Statista. Speaker 200:08:50Out of 6,000 participating companies, Aptar ranked 96 overall and within the pharma industry was ranked Number 4 out of 162 companies assessed. During the quarter, we also launched a number of new products as outlined on Slide 5. In pharma, a new pain management medication in Europe has selected our proprietary spray pump with an electronic counter and lockout device. Bayer's anti inflammatory and pain relieving throat spray is using our proprietary dispensing technology And our proprietary metering valve technology is featured on an asthma and COPD inhaler in China. Our active material moisture protection solution, Active Vial, will be featured on a probiotic in France. Speaker 200:09:39In Beauty, our fully recyclable mono material pump is the dispensing solution for J and J's Neutrogena hydration body lotion in Europe. And Guerlain uses our pump on a hair care and skin care foundation line. In closures, our snap top closure with flow control valve is used in Helman's new inverted garlic aioli product. In Personal Care, Bath and Body Works is featuring our disc top dispensing closure on a new line of hair care products. Looking to Slide 6. Speaker 200:10:11In the first half of twenty twenty three, we returned approximately $79,000,000 to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases. Additionally, on July 13, We are on track for our 30th consecutive year of paying an increased total annual dividend, And we'll continue to focus on creating value for our shareholders. Now I would like to turn the call over to Bob. Bob? Speaker 300:10:48Thank you, Stephane, and good morning, everyone. Starting on Slide 7, I would like to summarize the quarter. Our reported sales increased 6%. When we neutralized for currencies and acquisitions, our core sales grew 4%, Primarily due to strong demand for proprietary drug delivery systems across the majority of the application fields, including allergic rhinitis, Emergency medicine, asthma, COPD, nasal decongestants, saline rinses, cough and cold as well as eye care. Additionally, we saw continued strong demand for our dispensing technologies for both prestige and mass fragrance. Speaker 300:11:28As shown on Slide 8, we reported 2nd quarter adjusted earnings per share of $1.23 This represents A 26% increase over prior year adjusted EPS. We achieved adjusted EBITDA of 181,000,000 which was an increase of 13% from the prior year's Q2. Turning to some of the details by segment for the quarter, Our pharma segment's core sales increased 13%. Approximately 11% of the continued growth came from increased volumes, especially for our proprietary drug delivery systems. Looking at sales in the pharma segment by market, prescription core sales increased 23%, primarily due to continued strong demand for dosing and dispensing technologies for allergic rhinitis, emergency medicine, asthma and COPD therapies. Speaker 300:12:19Consumer Healthcare core sales increased 19% on healthy demand for nasal decongestants, saline rinses, Eye Care and Cough and Cold Applications. Core sales for our elastomer solutions for the injectables market increased 1%. While demand for our elastomeric components was strong, shipping days were impacted by an ongoing ERP system migration. The main issues for this implementation have been resolved, and we don't expect this impact to repeat in the second half of the year. Turning to our Active Material Science Solutions, Core sales decreased 13% due to softening in demand for probiotics after a period of rapid growth and a decrease in active vials used in Diabetes Care Products. Speaker 300:13:03Pharma's adjusted EBITDA margin was 32%, which included start up costs for the injectables division capacity expansion And ERP system implementation of approximately $4,000,000 We expect an impact of $3,000,000 to $4,000,000 per quarter for the remainder of the year. Our Beauty segment's core sales increased 3% due to a mix of pricing and volume growth. We continue to see double digit growth in both our Prestige and Mass Fragrance Regionally, Europe continues to perform well with sales and adjusted EBITDA margins well within our long term target range. While volumes in China are low, we are currently seeing progressive improvements. Latin America had good sales growth, especially in Nastige Fragrance. Speaker 300:13:47North America, where we produce more personal care and home care dispensing solutions, continues to be affected by lower customer demand due to excess inventories. Lastly, our full packaging solution, which primarily serves indie beauty brands for the North American market, is starting to rebound after being negatively affected by COVID. Looking at the Beauty segment by market, Beauty core sales increased 11%, driven by higher sales in both prestige and mass fragrance As well as color cosmetic solutions, beauty represents about 2 thirds of our overall sales in the segment. Personal Care core sales decreased 6% with lower demand in several end use categories in North America, while Europe showed stable growth in the quarter. Home Care core sales, which represents 4% of the Beauty segment sales, decreased 29% Due to lower sales in North America, Asia and Europe across several categories, including air care and surface disinfectants, Home Care sales grew in Latin America, but off a small base. Speaker 300:14:53This segment's adjusted EBITDA margin for the quarter was 13%. The closure segment's core sales decreased 8% compared with the prior year's quarter. About half the impact for the quarter is due to the pass through of lower resin prices. Additionally, sales were impacted by lower volumes in Personal Care and Home Care as customers continued to work through their inventory levels, primarily in North America. Europe and Asia had modest sales growth. Speaker 300:15:20Looking at the closure segment by market, food core sales decreased 7%, Primarily due to lower demand in North America. From an application field perspective, sauces and condiments were down, while food service trays were up. Beverage core sales decreased 2% due to the pass through of lower resin prices. However, sales in Europe increased, which is our largest beverage market. Personal Care core sales decreased 17% due primarily to lower demand and continued destocking in North America. Speaker 300:15:52In our 4th category, which includes Beauty, Home Care and Healthcare, core sales decreased 6%, primarily due to lower demand globally, although there was good growth for beauty dispensing closures in Europe and home care closures in Latin America and Asia. From an application field perspective, Laundry Care and Surface Cleaner Solutions were down, while Dish Care sales continued to increase. The segment's adjusted EBITDA margin was 16%. This signifies a 5 point improvement over the same period last year Due to our continued focus on operational leverage as well as the effects of passing on lower resin prices. For our 3 large capital projects, our injectables capacity expansion projects, our state of the art beauty site in France and our new site in China that will service all three of our segments. Speaker 300:16:41We spent about $21,000,000 in the quarter. As we have mentioned, 2 of our 3 large capital projects have come online in the first half of twenty twenty three. Reported depreciation and amortization expense increased 6 percent over the prior year quarter to approximately $62,000,000 or 7% of sales. Slide 9 and 10 cover our year to date performance And show the 4% core sales growth and our adjusted earnings per share, which were $2.18 up 14% compared to the $1.91 a year ago, including comparable exchange rates. Year to date cash flow from operations was $182,000,000 up from the 177,000,000 due to improvements in earnings. Speaker 300:17:24Moving to Slide 11, which summarizes our outlook for the Q3. We anticipate our strong momentum to continue and expect 3rd quarter adjusted earnings per share, excluding any restructuring expenses, acquisition costs and changes in the unrealized fair value of equity investments to be in the range of $1.23 to $1.31 per share. The estimated tax rate range for the Q3 is 25% to 27%. In the Q3, we expect to have a $0.03 to $0.04 impact in start up costs from our injectables expansion program, which we expect to repeat again in Q4. Additionally, we are expecting some currency tailwinds compared to the prior year. Speaker 300:18:05For example, the euro rate for the prior year Q3 was 101 and our guidance for the coming Q3 is assuming a €109 rate. We have said that roughly for every one point move in the euro rate, that equates to roughly $0.02 per share for the full year. So for the coming quarter, we are looking at approximately a $0.06 currency benefit on earnings compared to the prior year due to the euro rate as well as other currency movements. We currently estimate depreciation and amortization for 2023 to be between $230,000,000 to $240,000,000 Our capital expenditures in 2023, net of any government grants, is estimated to be around $300,000,000 including a capacity expansion investment for our pharma proprietary drug delivery systems. In closing, we continue to have a strong balance sheet with a leverage ratio of 1.8, which allows us to continue to invest in the business, Pursue strategic opportunities and continue to return value to shareholders in the form of dividends and repurchases. Speaker 300:19:08In addition to our cash dividend payment to shareholders, which totaled $24,900,000 in the quarter, we repurchased approximately 81,000 shares for approximately $9,300,000 At this time, Stephane will provide a few closing comments before we move to Q and A. Speaker 200:19:25Thanks, Bob. In closing, we are energized for the future as many of the measures we have taken over the past years progressively come to fruition. The first half of the year is off to a strong start with solid demand continuing into quarter 3. The pipeline for our pharma proprietary drug delivery systems continues to build. We are excited about the new opportunities that our expanded injectable capabilities will bring as they come online through the end of 2024. Speaker 200:19:56Demand for our elastomeric components is increasing, Keeping pace with the fast growing Biologics markets reserve. The Beauty segment continues to perform well in Europe, which represents more than half of our revenue driven by global beauty companies based in Europe, with Latin America also improving very nicely and China We are one of the global leaders in fragrance dispensing and have introduced New technologies that our customers are excited about. And as a result, fragrance has grown double digits in the 1st 6 months of the year And our order book looks strong heading into the Q3. Equally important, the team has done an excellent job in focusing increasingly on reducing cost While growing the top line, this determined effort to increase our operating leverage and drive productivity is very much continuing. Before opening up the call, I wanted to be sure to recognize and thank 2 long serving directors who have decided in recent months to retire from their service on our Board, Andreas Krambes and Maritza Gomez Montiel. Speaker 200:21:05Both have made tremendous contributions to Aptar over their many years of service. Maritza joined our Board in 2015 and served as the Head of our Audit Committee for most of her tenure. Andreas was a member of the Board since 2014, and we benefited from his extensive global industrial operating experience. Also on behalf of my fellow directors, I want to express our thanks to both Maritza and Andreas for their guidance, support and wisdom over the years. With that, I now would like to open the call up for your questions. Operator00:21:52Please limit yourself to 2 questions and then come back into the queue if you have more questions as time allows. We have the first question from Ghansham Panjali of Baird. Speaker 400:22:16Good morning. I guess, first off, Stefan, maybe you could just touch on what drove the acceleration in pharma Sales in 2Q, I think it was up 7% in the 1st quarter, up 13% in the second. You mentioned NARCAN, etcetera, and lumpiness associated with that. But just help us bridge the acceleration between the two quarters. Speaker 500:22:38Sure. I guess primarily, Ghansham, it is that the injectable business was delivering At a much higher rate being up more than 50% versus the Q1, while the sales level for The proprietary dispensing device business maintains at a strong level. And of course, the comparison to prior year also Plays a role, but the main acceleration is in injectable business. Speaker 400:23:13Got it. And then as it relates to the Strength that you're calling out in fragrance and prestige, etcetera. Where is the business relative to the pre COVID baseline? There's just so much noise in between 2019 and now. Just curious as to where we are relative to the previous baseline from 20 Speaker 600:23:35Sure. Gantan, I can take that. We're above 2019 levels in terms of both Units and dollars. So, we're back above the pre COVID levels. Speaker 400:23:51Thank Operator00:23:56you. Thank you. We now have George Staphos, Bank of America. Please go ahead. Speaker 700:24:03Hi, everyone. Good morning. Thanks for the details. My two questions are on pharma. I guess, first of all, can you touch on why you needed to raise the Headwind guidance, if you will, by a penny or so the next couple of quarters for the ERP implementation. Speaker 700:24:21And relatedly, what gives you confidence that it's behind you by 2024. And then on the pipeline and volume standpoint for pharma, What do you want us to take away in terms of how GLP-one drugs and for that matter emergency medicine Pipeline filling will mean 4 year volumes and how we should model for that over coming quarters. Thank you, guys. Speaker 500:24:49Sure. So what's the first question? Speaker 600:24:55The first question I can handle the head The $0.01. Yes. It actually is not the ERP, George. It's really more the ongoing Validation of the new capacity expansion, we've added the additional penny primarily due to the additional labor that we've got As the business stabilizes through the ERP, we have every intention of reducing that as the year goes on. But it's mostly an increase in the labor side, but primarily making sure that the validation goes as expected. Speaker 500:25:30Yes. And let me just add, I know that this pharma capacity addition world It's frustrating if you live in industrial world. But basically, you build the plant, then you staff it, You make products and then you wait. It goes to the product, it goes to the customer, they need to be validated, everything needs to be checked out And a year later then you actually have ongoing business. So those of you who remember when we first started up Congress, it took 18 months Thanks for the validation too. Speaker 500:26:09Now this $180,000,000 program for injectables It's in phases, so we can validate the phases as we go along. But all of this adds cost Next to the labor, you have product that you essentially throw away. And that's just the nature of the pharma business. So it's not like in Industrial side, you built the plant, you put the machines and then you're off to erase it. It just takes an extra time. Speaker 500:26:38And given the rough ERP Starting in the Q1, we just want to be sure that we have the right support as we ramp up those plans. Now on your second question, Look, we're not updating our ranges, our guidance ranges, the long term target. If we do that, that would At the Capital Markets Day, but clearly what we want to signal is we feel good about the pipeline. We We feel increasingly good about the pipeline. We are in some capacity in all the 3 major brands That are out there, both semaglutide and the trisepatide. Speaker 500:27:20And If we had weak volumes in injectables, it's due to the ERP system, not to market demand. And So whatever we lost if you want in terms of vaccine, less vaccine business was easily replaced with And as we mentioned in the Customers are securing future demand. I mean massive investments going to ground from our customers. There is a company in Indiana that There's a capacity in the 1,000,000,000 of dollars. So they want to make sure that all the components are there. Speaker 500:28:07So Clearly, barring any unforeseen discovery of negative side effects, these are blockbuster drugs that will need a robust With respect to the emergency medications, there's really 2 things to take away. One is, more and more People find that the best access to the brain is via the nose as opposed to sending drugs through the digestive system and hope they Make it to the bloodstream and hope to make it to the brain. So, and for emergency medicines that are rapidly acting, that's increasingly important. So, we just see the pipeline growing there. That's point 1. Speaker 500:28:46Point 2, we have to believe that there is inventory buildup in the chain For NARCAN, as everybody is getting ready to launch it over the counter. It has been approved. But how much that is exactly and when that will normalize, we really can't tell you. I mean, it's hard enough to forecast these days, But given that this stuff next to going into the pharmacy chain goes to schools and firefighters and airlines and what have you, It's very hard to predict. Having said that, please remember last year all emergency medicines were about 3% of overall And with that, while we're excited about many of these projects, In our business, there's no single project that is a big needle mover. Speaker 500:29:42It is a numbers game, The numbers game looks good. The pipeline is continuing to strengthen because of the conversion I mentioned. And obviously, also we're Excited about GLP-one. Also there, I want to caution you that the injected business is not our largest business. So it's It's exciting growth. Speaker 500:30:04It's about 9% of total company revenue. It's exciting growth in the context of the overall size of that injectable business. Speaker 800:30:13Thank you very much. Operator00:30:17Thank you. We now have Daniel Rizzo with Jefferies. Please go ahead when you're ready. Speaker 900:30:25Good morning. Just one question. So you mentioned it takes 5 to 12 years sometimes to get a drug to market for the small And midsized companies. I was wondering when you guys get involved in that process. Is it from the beginning that you have to be there? Speaker 900:30:37Is the pipeline that long? Or is it later, I mean closer towards launch? Speaker 500:30:43No. We are in there for the duration. That's the strength we bring To this industry, to give you two example, NARCAN, There was an existing device. We had a unidose device. Naloxone was an existing molecule. Speaker 500:31:03We worked with a small company at the time. And that took 5 years to take an existing molecule, an existing device and get this new indication or administration approved. Another example is Pravato, J and J, that's a 12 year program. Existing molecule, esketamine, has been well known and documented, For the new device, our biodose, it took 12 years. Now in that context, it's important why we have the service businesses and why we strengthen the service Because we, 1, have the expertise that we can provide, but we can also derive revenues. Speaker 500:31:43So we bill fee for service. We bill for milestone payments. Sometimes we negotiate royalties. So in that pipeline period, we make also decent money. Of course, we make much more money than when the devices are selling. Speaker 500:32:02But it is important because once the development is concluded and approved, our device is in the drug master file. And that sets it up for a very, very long runway. Speaker 900:32:17And then is Seasonally speaking, with cough and cold, I assume that Q3 will be historically speaking is the strongest and that there is lumpiness there as well So that we'll see a surge and then there could be a cooling add for that? Speaker 500:32:33Yes. I mean, in our outlook, we basically say we look the 3rd quarter looks strong, pretty much copy paste from the Q2 and there's a Different product mix, but I wouldn't see a particular surge in quarter 3 here. Thank you. Operator00:33:01Thank you. Your next question comes from Gabe Hajde of Wells Fargo Securities. Speaker 800:33:10Stephan, Bob, good morning. I wanted to ask it very much a short term, I apologize in advance, short term nearsighted question, but One of your customers on the injectable side had a weather event. And I was just curious if you guys have any Perspective, point of view about how that could impact your own operations, I don't necessarily know how to think about that. Speaker 500:33:38Look, we cannot talk about any particular customers, but not from my Aptar experience, but previous experience. Look, If you get in leather, it's all in how you react and how quickly you react. And I mean all the Participants here are highly experienced and you can only rely on them Taking this serious and reacting with a vengeance. It doesn't happen all the time, but It's all in how you react to it. Okay. Speaker 800:34:17And then I guess The 2 facilities that you were consolidating here in North America, I think there were some labor disruptions and things like that that were sort of hindering profitability. Can you remind us what savings you are expecting to kind of get out of that? Is it sort of in the rearview mirror? And then I guess on a new reporting structure, Where would we expect to kind of see that show up? I suspect the closures. Speaker 800:34:44You talked about the 500 basis points Of improvement on the margin year over year, but just clarification there. Speaker 500:34:54Yes. I mean, it's been now some time. As a reminder for everyone, just as COVID Again, we shut down 2 facilities in Connecticut and absorbedwe're planning to absorb Those activities into our facilities in the Midwest and the East Coast and in Mexico, That was not as well executed as we would like. We've said that before. We lost some share in the process. Speaker 500:35:25And part of that challenge was as We then recovery started, we couldn't get the labor and customers were not pleased. That all is behind us. We did close another facility in the Midwest In quarter 1, benefit of that, you do indeed see enclosures. So that's part of the margin improvement. And given that our service levels are back to normal and in fact very competitive And the regionalization of supply chains, we are back on the front foot in North America. Speaker 500:36:10And the third point is, of course, we suffer like everyone else from the almost mysterious destocking in some markets. We see that pretty much having run its course in the food side, but it still continues in the personal care and home care side. Thank you, Stefan. Operator00:36:35Thank As we have had no questions registered, I'd like to hand it back to Mr. Tanda for some final remarks. Speaker 500:36:57Thank you. So let's take a step back for a moment. As I mentioned, The management team here is very energized about the future. And that is because A lot of the hard work, many of the measures that we have taken over the past years are now progressively coming to fruition to a point where you can actually see them in our results. Whether it is a much stronger and deeper talent bench or teams that we have on the field That is also leading to disciplined execution, whether it is the much more capable, modern and efficient asset base that we have put in place As well as renovated or updated, Whether it is renewed innovation delivered in our innovation centers in Asia, in the U. Speaker 500:37:51S. And in Europe, leading to enthusiastic customer engagement and excitement that I mentioned. And last not least, a much more vigorous and systematic cost All of these improvements starting to show and are behind the double digit EPS growth. If we look back at the first half, Of course, we have reached growth in Rx and CHC, in our proprietary dispensing devices and Injectables is now recovering nicely with good demand picture looking forward. Beauty is growing nicely in Europe And recovery in China and both Europe and China are in the profitability target range. Speaker 500:38:37SG and A as a percentage of revenue is coming down. And I also want to make the point that the absolute EBITDA growth, The combined Beauty and Closures is actually more than the EBITDA growth in pharma for the first half. Of course, pharma has been held back with the injectable ERP deployment, but 14% EBITDA growth Beauty and Coors combined in quarter 2 also see that these businesses are starting to deliver, as I said earlier. Now when we look at Q3, it's pretty much a copy of Q2. We will see, of course, growth in injectables year over year and Rx and CHG continue to perform strongly. Speaker 500:39:20Same for Beauty with Europe pulling. And of course, when we say Europe, It's our customers in Europe who supply the world. So it's not so much related to the European consumer as opposed to the overall global beauty industry. Latin America is doing well and China is growing, albeit at a much slower pace than initially thought. North America, the food destocking has hopefully run its course, but personal care and home care is still a drag. Speaker 500:39:50And for those of you who follow the exchange rate, this is now becoming a tailwind rather than having been a headwind for the last few years. So we look forward to provide more updates and insights of our Capital Markets Day in September, but suffice to say that the team here is laser focused On executing on our growth plans, leveraging the investments that are coming on stream, we are deep into Multi year cost actions that start already to contribute and we are by far not out of ideas How to drive productivity from there. The dividend increase that you've seen should be a clear signal. And of course, we continue to maintain a Healthy balance sheet that provides us the opportunity to take advantage of any opportunities that arise. With that, I wish you all a good rest of the summer, and we will see you in September. Operator00:40:53Thank you all for joining. I can confirm that does conclude today's call. Please have a lovely rest of your day, and you may now disconnect your line.Read morePowered by