NASDAQ:APLS Apellis Pharmaceuticals Q2 2023 Earnings Report $18.20 +0.04 (+0.22%) Closing price 04/17/2025 04:00 PM EasternExtended Trading$18.20 0.00 (-0.03%) As of 04/17/2025 04:32 PM Eastern Extended trading is trading that happens on electronic markets outside of regular trading hours. This is a fair market value extended hours price provided by Polygon.io. Learn more. Earnings HistoryForecast Apellis Pharmaceuticals EPS ResultsActual EPS-$1.02Consensus EPS -$1.35Beat/MissBeat by +$0.33One Year Ago EPS-$1.46Apellis Pharmaceuticals Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$95.00 millionExpected Revenue$70.38 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$24.62 millionYoY Revenue Growth+482.80%Apellis Pharmaceuticals Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2023Date7/31/2023TimeBefore Market OpensConference Call DateMonday, July 31, 2023Conference Call Time8:30AM ETUpcoming EarningsApellis Pharmaceuticals' Q1 2025 earnings is scheduled for Tuesday, May 6, 2025, with a conference call scheduled at 8:30 AM ET. Check back for transcripts, audio, and key financial metrics as they become available.Q1 2025 Earnings ReportConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptSlide DeckPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfileSlide DeckFull Screen Slide DeckPowered by Apellis Pharmaceuticals Q2 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrJuly 31, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.There are 16 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Apellis Pharmaceuticals Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Meredith Kaya. Operator00:00:32Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:34Good morning and thank you for joining us today. Earlier this morning, we reported our Q2 2023 financial results. We will be happy to take questions from you on these results in the Q and A session. However, we will be focusing our prepared remarks today on SYFOVRI, including feedback from the recent ASRS Annual Meeting and an update on our comprehensive review of the rare safety events. With me on the call are Co Founder and Chief Executive Officer, Doctor. Speaker 100:00:59Cedric Francois Chief Commercial Officer, Adam Townsend Chief Medical Officer, Doctor. Caroline Baumel and Chief Financial Officer, Tim Sullivan. Before we begin, Let me point out that we will be making forward looking statements that are based on our current expectations and beliefs. These statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties and our actual results may differ materially. I encourage you to consult the risk factors discussed in our SEC filings for additional detail. Speaker 100:01:26Now I'll turn the call over to Cedric. Speaker 200:01:28Thank you, Meredith, and thank you all for joining us today. As Meredith said, We are going to take a different approach on today's call and focus the discussion on the rare events of aesculitis we have seen with Xyfovary. We know you have questions and we will do our best to answer as many of them as we can. But before we do, let me provide some overarching comments. First, I have never been prouder to be part of the Aperis team. Speaker 200:01:57The past few weeks have been challenging, And once again, the team has shown incredible dedication and resilience. 2nd, we had a strong second quarter. We reported approximately $90,000,000 in total product sales, including $67,000,000 for SYFOVRI, demonstrating the early strength of this launch. With more than 68,000 vials of SYFOVRI now distributed to physicians, SYFOVRI is having a positive impact on the lives of tens of thousands of patients across the United States. And third, SYFYVI continues to demonstrate increasing effects over time. Speaker 200:02:39Data from our GAIL long term extension study showed a reduction in non subfovial GA lesion growth of up to 45% between months 2430 as compared to projected sham. These are incredible findings, further strengthening our understanding of XIFAVI as an important treatment for patients with GA. With that, let's get into the discussion. Patient safety is our top priority and we care deeply for the physicians who rely on us. We are conducting a comprehensive investigation The potential causes of the events of vasculitis working closely within the retina community. Speaker 200:03:24We do not know the cause yet. And realistically, we may never identify a singular cause. What we do know, however, is that these events have been very rare And sporadic and that zero events were reported in our clinical studies. SYFOVRI is a newly launched drug In a new disease with a new mechanism of action, it is not unexpected that events may emerge when bringing a drug into the real world, But it is expected that we take them very seriously. Now let's get into some of your questions. Speaker 200:04:02First, what do we know so far about these events and what are the visual outcomes for these patients? I will hand it over to Caroline to speak about this. Caroline? Speaker 300:04:13Thank you, Cedric. As we get into the details, I want to recognize the Patients and physicians who have been impacted by these rare but serious events. I will reiterate what Cedric said. Patient safety is and has always been our top priority along with providing physicians with the information they need to make the best decisions for their patients. Let me share what we know today. Speaker 300:04:41Overall, these events have been rare. We have confirmed 7 events since our launch in March, And one additional reported event is being evaluated by Apellis. More than 68,000 vials of SYFOVRI have been distributed to physician practices. And based on our research, we estimate over 60,000 of those have been administered to patients. These events occurred sporadically. Speaker 300:05:09There were 2 events following injections in April, 2 in May and 3 in June. This is important because as the number of injections increased each month, there was not a corresponding increase in the number of vasculitis events. Each event happened between 7 13 days following drug administration, and all cases Reported to Apellis occurred after the first injection. We recognize that the numbers we reported on Saturday are slightly different than the numbers presented by ASRS. This is because we make determinations based on the information that we received directly from the treating physician and following review by external retina and uveitis specialists. Speaker 300:05:55Given physician confidentiality, we must be careful in what we share regarding detailed patient information. Additionally, these are highly complex cases and are sometimes difficult to interpret. However, We are working closely with ASRS to make sure we are better aligned in how we evaluate each of these events going forward. It is still too early to know the outcomes for each of these patients. Retina vasculitis by definition is a severe inflammatory event that can potentially lead to significant vision loss. Speaker 300:06:33With standard of care treatments, We hope patients will recover, but this can take up to a few months. Of the 7 confirmed patients reported to us to date, 2 have recovered vision nearly back to baseline, 2 have severe vision impairment and are unlikely to be resolved, And 3 are still evolving. For the one suspected case, the patient's vision has already returned to baseline. Working with the physicians, we are monitoring each of these patients very closely. Speaker 200:07:06Thank you, Caroline. The next question is why these events are happening? What are we doing to find the cause? And what do we know so far? Speaker 300:07:16These are really important questions and we have been collaborating with the retina community to better understand the potential factors Contributing to these events. One of the first questions we asked ourselves was why we did not see this in the clinical trials. There is a robust process for evaluating safety in a clinical study. Patients are assessed by the trial investigator Administered in our studies to date, 0 events of vasculitis have been reported. To confirm these findings, One of the first things we did upon receiving these case reports is go back to our Phase III data to make sure that nothing was missed. Speaker 300:08:09We re reviewed all cases of intraocular inflammation and retina vascular occlusion and confirmed no vasculitis events. Additionally, we asked the panel of retina and uveitis specialists to re review all severe intraocular inflammation events as well as 2 leading neuro ophthalmologists to re review our ischemic optics neuropathy events, both of whom further confirmed that there were no vasculitis events. We also know from our clinical trials that there was no indication of drug related immunogenicity. Data showed no correlation between IOI events and any antidrug antibodies, providing evidence that these events were unlikely to be caused by an immune response to either the peptide or to polyethylene glycol. These findings are important to our investigation as there were no changes in the formulation Speaker 200:09:13Thank you, Caroline. So if we did not see anything in the clinical trials, Then what else are we looking into as a potential cause? Speaker 300:09:22The next important area we looked into was manufacturing processes and drug quality, and there is no indication that these contributed to the vasculitis events. No single manufacturing lot was implicated. No manufacturing issues were identified related to intraocular inflammation and no quality issues or contamination such as endotoxins were found. There has been some confusion around Cyfovari being a biologic and that these events may have been due to endotoxin. To clarify, XIFAVIRI is not a biologic. Speaker 300:10:01It is a synthetic peptide that binds specifically to C3 and C3b. Levels of drug product Endotoxin in all clinical and commercial batches of SYFOVRI are significantly lower than the reporting threshold and the FDA's expectation for ophthalmic dosage forms for injection. As for what else, We are continuing to investigate potential contributing factors. This includes looking into patient characteristics as well as evaluating any variations from the clinical trials to real world. We don't have any answers on these today. Speaker 200:10:42Thanks again, Caroline. Okay. Now that we've talked about the investigation, let's turn to how the conversations have been with over the past few weeks and of course, specifically here at ASRS. Caroline, why don't you start and then turn over to Adam share what you're both hearing from the retina community and what this might mean for treatment going forward. Speaker 300:11:05Sure. Thanks, Cedric. Over the past 2 weeks, we have been deeply engaged with the physician community and as Adam will share Also conducted some early market research to better understand perception and impact. Upon hearing of these events, The first thing I did was reach out to multiple physician practices to better understand their experiences with SYFOVRI so far. These are physicians who in total have administered thousands of SYFOVRI injections to date and they have not seen any cases of vasculitis. Speaker 300:11:42Since then, we have continued to talk with dozens of leading experts in our field and just spent the past 4 days with Hundreds of retina specialists at the ASRS meeting in Seattle. Overall, physicians are eager for more information, and this will take time and more data. These are serious safety events and physicians need to understand how to think about treatment. As a retina physician, I can attest that my colleagues are experts when it comes to treating their patients, especially with intravitreal injections. They are thoughtful in the decisions that they make, Understand the risks associated with these therapies and can effectively communicate the benefit risk profile to their patients. Speaker 300:12:32I'll turn it over to Adam to share a bit of what he and his team are also hearing. Speaker 400:12:37Thanks, Caroline, and good morning, everyone. The commercial team has also spent an enormous amount of time engaging with retina doctors over the past few weeks and then in person this weekend at ASRS. Our number one priority is to make sure that physicians know Following the member communication from ASRS, we have sent 2 communications to physicians Sharing additional color and context about these events and held numerous calls with our physicians and our speakers. The feedback we are getting from the field is very consistent with what Caroline spoke to earlier. Additionally, and prior to the ASRS meeting, we conducted some early market research with U. Speaker 400:13:31S. Retina specialists, most of whom had previous experience treating patients with Xiphofri. The key takeaways of this survey were That one third of the surveyed doctors said they plan to continue using Xiphobri as they had been prior to the vasculitis events in both new and existing patients. The next third said they plan to continue using Xiphobri in their existing patients, but may pause use in new patients. And the remaining third of doctors said they plan to pause treatment until they have more information or until their patients request treatment. Speaker 400:14:14Based on this, We do anticipate some sales bumpiness in the near term as many seek to gain more information. Our job is to be a thoughtful, transparent partner over these next few months. We believe it is important To continue to bring this treatment to the millions of people suffering from GA in the U. S. And to be ready to bring this to patients worldwide very soon. Speaker 400:14:40A quick update on the latter. Our marketing applications are under review in multiple territories worldwide, including the EU, And we expect approval decisions starting in early 2024. With that, Cedric, I'll hand it back to you. Speaker 200:14:56Thank you, Adam. Okay. Another question on everyone's mind is how we think these rare events will impact XIFAVIRI sales and ultimately, of course, our cash runway? And how are we thinking about financing at this point? Tim, can you comment on this? Speaker 500:15:12Of course. Thanks, Cedric. Speaker 600:15:13As of the Q2, we had $1616,000,000 in cash. Based on our current assumptions, this provides us with a runway into the Q1 of 20 However, these safety events may impact the sales trajectory in the near term, but because it is all very new, we don't know the magnitude. We are monitoring demand very closely and in parallel looking at our overall spend to ensure we are being disciplined and thoughtful going forward. We will be transparent with you, but we don't have all of the details for you today. As for financing, we are not under any immediate pressure to raise money. Speaker 600:15:49As we always do, we will evaluate multiple ways in which to finance the company at the right time and with our shareholders in mind. Speaker 200:15:57Thank you, Tim. On to the last question then, because ASRS was not just about safety for us this weekend. We also presented some exciting new data from our GAIL long term extension study. Caroline, can you please give us an overview about some of the new data that was Speaker 300:16:14Yes, absolutely. Thanks, Cedric. We had a strong presence at ASRS this weekend with 7 podium presentations. Notably, we shared for the first time data from our GAIL extension study reinforcing the long term efficacy and safety of SYFOVRI. These data demonstrated that SYFOVRI reduced GA lesion growth by up to 39% in the monthly arm between months 20 430 as compared to the projected sham arm. Speaker 300:16:49What we were most excited about were the effects seen in non subfovial GA patients, as Cedric mentioned earlier. Between months 2430, SYFOVRI reduced noncifovial GA lesion growth by 45% in the monthly arm. This means that within 3 years, patients with non subfovial lesions are seeing the rate of GA progression and a large well controlled study. The safety profile in Gale was consistent with previously reported Phase III data. In addition to the Gale data, we also shared data using AI technology demonstrating the effect of Xiphobri in Photoreceptor cell degeneration. Speaker 300:17:45Photoreceptor cells are responsible for visual acuity And the degradation of these photoreceptor cells are significantly reduced upon initiation of SYFOVRI treatment. Both the Gale and the photoreceptor data along with additional analysis presented over these past few days Contribute to the most robust data set against GA and reinforce the importance of treatment with SYFOVRI to help to protect against this irreversible disease. I'll turn it back over to Cedric for closing remarks. Speaker 200:18:20Thank you, Caroline. We are very excited about the data presented at ASRS. Although it has been a turbulent few weeks, We believe that we have a strong future ahead of us. We are closely monitoring the safety of SYFOVRI in the real world and will formally update on the rate of events on our quarterly calls. We will not be commenting on future individual cases. Speaker 200:18:45We intend to handle this situation with the utmost integrity and transparency and do what is right for our patients, physicians and investors. Blazing a new trail in geographic atrophy is not easy, but I am confident in the Aperdis team And we look forward to bringing SYFOVI to patients in need worldwide. We are also proud of the impact that Empaviti is having on patients with PNH. Additionally, we continue to advance a robust clinical and preclinical pipeline to achieve our goal of improving the lives of Let us now open the call for questions. Operator? Operator00:19:31Thank Our first question comes from the line of Umer Raffat with Evercore. Your line is now open. Speaker 700:19:52Hi, guys. It's actually John on for Umer. I would love a little bit more clarity on the inventory in that 68 ks vials shipped as of this past weekend. Can you confirm how much inventory in average stock keeps on stock and how much inventory would be in the channel at any given time? Then furthermore, one bit of feedback that we were hearing out of ASRS is that there may have been a change from trial to commercial In the device, was there a supplier for the trials that had automatic draw up of the SYFAVY solution? Speaker 700:20:29Commercial docs have been complaining that draw up from the vial obviously is challenging and that's a little bit different for this product. So is that something that could be driving this or something you've looked into? Speaker 200:20:39Thank you, John. I will hand the first question over to Adam and then take the second one. Speaker 400:20:43Hi, John, it's Adam. So yes, of the 68 1,000 vials, those have been distributed to physician practices. And we contacted our top prescribers. And on average, we after those discussions, our top prescribers tell us they hold approximately a week's worth of inventory within their fridges. So the vast majority of those 68,000 vials are likely not sitting in fridges. Speaker 400:21:12They're Probably being used with patients. So on average about a week held in a refrigerator. Hopefully that answers the first part and then I'll hand back to Cedric. Thank you, Adam. So I Speaker 200:21:24think, John, we had an important objective this weekend coming to ASRS, and that was, First of all, to work closely with the SRS and get a very good sense of what is happening nationwide, I. E, How large is this problem? Is there something that we have missed? And secondly, is this rate changing over time, right? And so what's very important here and the key Objective of this weekend and the research that we did in the past couple of weeks is that we can conclude that these events are very rare. Speaker 200:21:55And as Caroline mentioned earlier, that they don't increase over time, right? They're sporadic in nature. I think that is really, really important. Then of course comes the question, what is the potential etiology behind this? And as you can imagine, of course, and as you mentioned, The best starting point is what was different in the clinical trials versus the real world. Speaker 200:22:16We are going to be very methodical, And we are not going to engage in hypothesizing until we have data. And I think that is really important. That is something that we owe to physicians and to patients. In that investigation, the first step was to find out is the drug product that we are delivering to physicians today The same as the drug product that we used in the clinical trials? And the answer is yes. Speaker 200:22:41We are now going to take next steps To evaluate other factors that could have played role, but we will only communicate on those when we have more clarity. Speaker 700:22:54So when you say that the product is the same, you're specifically not talking necessarily about any of the Additional materials that may have come along with the vial of drug like syringes, drop, assisting devices, things like that? Speaker 200:23:10All of these will be part of our investigation. Speaker 700:23:15All right. Thank you very much. Speaker 200:23:17Thank you, John. Operator00:23:19Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tazeen Ahmad with Bank of America. Your line is now open. Speaker 800:23:27Hi, good morning guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Also I wanted to clarify upon some of your prepared remarks. So Cedric, how are you thinking about on a go forward basis the risk mitigation plan, maybe this is appropriate for Adam, because Adam, you've talked about what you've done so far, but I think docs probably will would benefit from guidance from the company going forward. And so where are you And trying to plan that out. Speaker 800:23:55Secondly, I wanted to clarify, were all of the cases of Aesculitis that were reported To ASRS, were they injected by retina specialists or were any of them done by general ophthalmologists? And then I have a follow-up. Speaker 200:24:12Thank you so much, Stacie. So first of all, briefly on the risk mitigations and Doc's guidance, I think it is really important here that we have a label, that we have a way of that we have thoroughly evaluated in clinical trials of distributing this product and using this product. And that is something that we, of course, want to stick to as closely as possible. We have communicated with physicians through letters to update them, and we will continue to do so to make sure that the routes of communication are thorough. We will continue to work with the ASRS. Speaker 200:24:48As far as it relates to practice mitigation steps, etcetera, We are going to be working with the retina community, but the retina community is better positioned than anyone, right, to talk about how this should be handled. I think, again, the most important fact that we wanted to get our hands on this weekend was to understand the rate And the sporadic nature and to communicate that with ASRS to the community. So I think that is really important. The vasculitis cases that were all reported, I will look to Caroline, but I believe were all done by retina doctors. That is correct. Speaker 200:25:28Yes. Speaker 800:25:29Okay. Thanks. And then lastly, I think ASRS said that there has been a suspected case that maybe hasn't been Firms that occurred after the second Cytovery injection. I think this was not reported to you, but Over the past weekend, have you had the opportunity to learn a little bit more about that particular patient's characteristics? Speaker 200:25:51Yes. I think it's important to point out here that suspected cases are suspected for a reason, right, in the sense that we There are many confounding factors that come into this. This is not an exact science, right? But the key thing is that after Kind of a really thorough search nationwide, right, that we ended up realizing that we are very close to where we were a few weeks ago, Right. There was not like a hidden tsunami that all of a sudden came our way. Speaker 200:26:21So there will, in all likelihood, be new cases. We will take those and evaluate those. We will continue to work with ASRS, but with the knowledge that the rates and the sporadic nature of these events Create a risk benefit profile that physicians can then openly communicate about with their patients. Speaker 900:26:43Okay. Thanks, Cedric. Speaker 200:26:44Thank you, Salim. Operator00:26:46Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Anupam Rama with JPMorgan. Your line is now open. Speaker 1000:26:54Hey guys, thanks so much for taking the question. Maybe a question on how you segmented the So the one maybe the 1 third of physicians who you've talked to that are remaining going to continue to prescribe. You give us a sense of where these physicians fall into sort of what you've seen as amongst your top prescribers to date? Speaker 400:27:18Adam? Yes, absolutely. So yes, the one third of our market research, so They tend to be actually a mix. So they're a mix of our top prescribers, large accounts, but they're also slightly smaller accounts. So The Xiphover uses within our market research had between 12.50 patients. Speaker 400:27:40So you can tell there that there's a broad Bolus of cypheruse within that snapshot market research we did prior to ASRS. So we tend to get usage across the large PE backed Accounts and smaller accounts as well. So in our market research, that was consistent within that third. Speaker 1000:28:01Thanks so much for taking our question. Speaker 200:28:04Thanks, Anupam. Speaker 100:28:05Thank Operator00:28:06you. Our next question comes from the line of Colleen Cussey with Baird. Your line is now open. Speaker 800:28:14Thanks. Good morning and thanks for taking our questions. So We've heard similar feedback on the needle in the commercial kit. Are there any progress made on potentially Developing a prefilled syringe for SYFYBRI and how long would that take to bring to market? Speaker 200:28:32Yes. Thank you, Colleen. So again, as mentioned earlier, our investigation around the ancillaries is part of the overall investigation. And of course, a prefilled syringe is An important objective for us, it was before these events occurred as well. That is unfortunately something that takes several years of development as was the case For Lucentis and Eylea as well, we are working very hard towards that, but that is not something that you should expect in the near future. Speaker 800:29:01That's helpful. Thank you. And a follow-up. So at least one of the patient's vision did recover encouragingly. Anything notable about that case Speaker 200:29:19Carolyn? Speaker 300:29:21Thank you. As I presented earlier in this talk that 2 of the patients Have recovered vision nearly back to baseline and 3 cases are still in evolution. What I would say is that these cases are so rare And complex, it's difficult to make any interpretation about treatment guidelines at the present, but we will continue to communicate With the retina community and update them when we have some guidance. Speaker 800:29:54Thank you. And last one from us, just in Europe, Have you submitted these vasculitis cases to European regulators? And do you Speaker 300:30:00expect that to be part of the review? Speaker 200:30:03Of course. We communicate all safety events to all the regulatory authorities. Speaker 1100:30:10Great. Thanks for taking my question. Speaker 200:30:12Thank you, Toni. Operator00:30:14Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Yigal Nochomovitz with Citigroup. Your line is now open. Speaker 1200:30:21Hi, Cedric and team. Thanks for taking the question. On the survey you conducted, you mentioned that the market research was conducted before ASRS. So just when you presented the Survey to the physicians, was that just based on the contents of the ASRS letter from mid July? Or were there any further details that they were Given with respect to either the retinal images or detailed aspects of the case studies presented on Saturday. Speaker 1200:30:46Thanks. Speaker 200:30:47Thank you, Yigal. Good hearing you. Adam? Yes. Hi, Yigal. Speaker 200:30:51So what Speaker 400:30:52we did was with the survey, we only used the letter From ASRS as the basis for that. Speaker 1200:31:01Okay, thanks. And then just Being very specific with respect to the statement around drug product or manufacturing, I mean, are you saying That excludes the potential of the underlying mechanism of action of CEDFOVRA on C3 inhibition or does drug product in manufacturing just apply to The way the excipients were produced or any other aspects of the manufacturing process, but not necessarily the mode of action itself? Yes. Speaker 200:31:29So the mode of action is going to be part of the broader investigation. But again, the mode of action was the same in the clinical trials, of course, as it was in the real world. So again, no answers there yet. All we can say is that the product that was manufactured and used in the clinical trials It's the same product as the product that we are distributing to physicians to date, all within the same specs and the same manufacturing process. Speaker 1200:31:54Okay. And then I know Carolyn mentioned a few times these are highly complex cases. And I don't think I saw in the ASRS slides any demographics on the Other than NDA, is there anything you can say, any potential commonality in terms of comorbidities or other Conditions or disease conditions that may be at least a hypothesis that you're going to pursue or these all just highly divergent, Highly complex and no clear way to pursue a hypothesis other than obviously the commonality of all having GA. Speaker 200:32:31Thank you, Yigal. These cases are so rare that, as you can imagine, kind of Trying to find commonalities between patients requires something that would require a much larger denominator or not numerator. So We're going to continue to track it and continue to investigate. But right now, all we have done is be able to exclude manufacturing. The rest will be subject to further research. Speaker 1200:32:58Okay. Thanks, Cedric. Speaker 200:33:00Thank you. Operator00:33:02Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Steven Seedhouse with Raymond James. Your line is now open. Speaker 1300:33:11Yes. Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. I have a commercial one and then a follow-up for Caroline, if I could. Some of the numbers that We now have ENHANCE of 42,000 vials distributed to offices in the 2nd quarter, 60,000 per the ASRS letter as of July 15. Speaker 1300:33:28That implies if we back out 1Q as well implies like 8,000 or 9,000 let's say in the 1st 2 weeks of July that were distributed Then we have the 65,000 number on July 21 and 68,000 on July 29 that you're updating today as well, Which would imply like 8,000 bios distributed in the second half of July. So can you just corroborate that math? I mean, I appreciate you said You know that you expect some sales impact and certainly the survey work suggests that, but it really does look like the first half and the second half of July had about the same number of vials distributed. Speaker 200:34:02Thank you, Steve. Adam? Hi, Steve. Yes, Speaker 400:34:05I think your math is right. But one thing to think about is This week and sorry, the week just gone and this current week is obviously the ASRS weekend. So a lot of physicians are actually here or we're here in Seattle. So we always calendarize some bumpiness for this week as physicians tend to attend these conferences. But the orders for vials are continuing and have continued throughout the last couple of weeks, as your math explained. Speaker 1300:34:39Okay, thanks. And for Caroline, just there seem to be some discussion during the ASRS panel presentation on Saturday that TAPAN and JAK for instance, especially vancomycin is not necessarily an optimal approach for management of retinal vasculitis if that is suspected, Which it wasn't because it hadn't been observed in the clinical study and based on the Beovu experience, I think something like intraocular steroids especially early on Might be a better approach and could maybe mitigate some of the worst outcomes now that this is a known possibility. So is that Characterization accurate and do you think visual outcomes could be improved just on that basis alone going forward if this happens in the future? Thanks. Speaker 300:35:22Well, as I said before, and thank you for that question, these cases are complex and They're not all bound by commonality. I think we have more to learn with our retina colleagues on management of these cases. Speaker 700:35:42Great. Thanks. Operator00:35:44Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Phil Nadeau with TD Cowen. Your line is now open. Speaker 1400:35:53Good morning. Thanks for taking our questions. A couple from us. First on the conclusion that manufacturing was involved, can you discuss a bit more of the basis for that conclusion? What assays were Performed and generally what analysis did you do to conclude manufacturing is not an issue? Speaker 200:36:14Yes. Thank you, Phil. So as you know, the way these investigations starts by looking into manufacturing are actually Quite well standardized, right? So our CMC group has a process to go through where A lot specifically gets investigated to find out that all of these cases were not related to one specific lot. We then look whether all the drug product that was shipped Within the specs that are predefined in our registrational batches and through the NDA. Speaker 200:36:45And then much more work around Testing and evaluating whether the possibility of the introduction of a manufacturing problem was involved in these cases. And the answer to that was no. Speaker 1400:36:59You may recall the ePrex situation about 20 years ago where ePrex was associated with red cell aplasia. And I think it turned out to be they changed like The supplier of the rubber stoppers, something that seemed totally innocuous. If that same situation had been the case here, would The analysis you did to look at manufacturing supply have picked up that as a potential cause. Are they that detailed? Speaker 200:37:22If there was a change between what we did in the clinical trials in terms of how we manufacture the product and what we do now in the real world, we would have told So this is all within the same specs and the same use and the same manufacturing process That we used in our clinical trials as well. Speaker 1400:37:40Perfect. And then, second question. At ASRS, there were some questions from physicians on the per patient incidence Since it seems to happen after the first dose, physicians were wondering what would be the risk of a naive patient of going on therapy. Do you have any estimates as to how many patients are on therapy? And so what is the per patient incidence of a naive patient getting the Vasculitis? Speaker 200:38:03Yes. Thank you so much for that question, Phil. It's very early, of course, to look into something like that. Of course, the majority of these estimated 60,000 injections in the real world are probably going to Or will probably have been first time injections in first time patients. So that, of course, provides a huge denominator from which to work. Speaker 200:38:26And now we're going to find out, right? I mean, whether this is the first injection phenomenon and subsequent injections, we just don't know a lot Yes. Other than the fact that it's an extremely rare event and that it is an event that is sporadic in nature, right? And I think that's really important To bear in mind is that the retina community ran through kind of a very traumatizing event a couple of years ago, where product was introduced, where an increased incidence over time was taking place, where this product Well, sensitizing patients and more and more patients came out of the woodworks and physicians, that is absolutely not what is happening here. So I think it's important to State that categorically. Speaker 1400:39:12Then last question from us. In terms of the path going forward, do you have any information on when ASRS could provide an update on It's analysis of cases or does, Appellus have any timelines to providing a next disclosure on either Your root cause analysis or the incidence of Vascelais? Speaker 200:39:32Yes. So as we mentioned, we will provide a quarterly update as it relates To the rates, and we are going to provide updates on the investigation when we have things to tell, right? So we're not going to Make an update unless we have real clarity around understanding this, and we are going to continue to work with ASRS. We're very grateful for the partnership that we have with them. Speaker 500:39:56Great. Thanks for Speaker 1400:39:57taking our questions. Speaker 200:39:58Thank you, Phil. Operator00:40:00Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Justin Kim with Oppenheimer and Company. Your line is now open. Speaker 1500:40:08Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe shifting gears a little bit towards Gail. Speaker 1200:40:16Just in the context of Speaker 1500:40:17the safety events and given that Gail is really delivering on showing those increasing effects over time, Just wondering how you've heard the feedback in terms of patient participation in the U. S. For the clinical study and whether sort of those subgroups are continuing on, especially given that these events aren't being observed in clinical study? Speaker 200:40:44Yes. Thank you so much for that question, Justin. So first of all, as you may recall, the number of patients that went from Derby and OXIN to GAL It was very high, read approximately 80% of the patients in the trial decided to go into this 3 year extension study. We are actually, I think months away from having the 1st patient who has been on treatment for 5 years with Xyfulvary already in the GALE study. So an incredibly rich An important database for us to understand not just the safety, but also as you mentioned the efficacy. Speaker 200:41:17As Caroline mentioned earlier, if you have a patient with extraphobia lesions, and as a reminder for those that are not familiar with this, these are patients who have GA in the periphery Of their vision, so still with typically a good ability to read and recognize objects with their central vision, in other words, Patients that can really benefit being able to slow down the progression of the disease by something that looks like it's close to 50% is, of course, Incredibly important. And with all of these things, of course, we have these safety events, which we take very seriously, which we will investigate. On the flip side, Operator00:42:06Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Derek Archila with Wells Fargo, your line is open. Speaker 500:42:14Hey, good morning and thanks for taking the questions. Just 2 from us. I guess, first off, can you just remind us how many patients present with bilateral disease? And I just do you think the ASR That's notification may deter docs from doing injections in both eyes. And then also I know you haven't said You're still working on the investigation, but no similarities or commonalities between these patients experiencing retinal vasculitis has been determined. Speaker 500:42:40But if there is, Would you expect future label language that could direct patients or I'm sorry, direct docs to the patients who are best suited for therapy? Is that something Speaker 200:42:53Thank you, Derek. Let me start with the second question. It is way too early to talk about that. We are obviously in very close communication with the FDA on all of these things. That is something that we will evaluate and potentially do when more information is available. Speaker 200:43:11As it relates to bilateral patients, Caroline, maybe you could Speak to that. Speaker 300:43:16Thank you, Cedric. As the ASRF did present, they did present that one bilateral case. And I think that is we have retina physicians who are very thoughtful in what they do. And we Typically do include bilateral injections in our treatment paradigm. And however, that case does Highlight that when we have a new product, it may be prudent to consider Unilateral injection first time with use. Speaker 200:43:54Got you. Thank you so much. Thank you, Derek. Operator00:43:58Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ellie Merle with UBS. Your line is now open. Speaker 800:44:07Thank you so much for taking the question. What's your understanding in the cases If all of those were given using the provided administration materials or did any of the physicians choose to use, say, a different syringe for the injection or maybe deviate in any way from the proper administration procedures. And then just also you alluded to you submitted the safety findings to the EMA. Just any color on that so far from those interactions. Thanks. Speaker 200:44:36Thank you so much, Eli. So again, I think it's important to note here that This is the heart and the bread and butter of these practices for the last 15 years or so. So that is something that needs to be remembered here. Syringes, ancillaries, as mentioned Will be part of our broader investigation and we will comment on that when we have more information. As it relates to the EMEA, We communicate, as I mentioned, everything, of course, to these agencies. Speaker 200:45:15It becomes part of the evaluation. That evaluation with EMEA so far has been going well. So For now, we don't see any changes. Speaker 800:45:26Great. Thanks. And just a quick follow-up. In the patients that had IOI who didn't have retinal vasculitis, I guess, did they have any vision impact and any color on if those cases fully recovered? Thanks. Speaker 200:45:39Yes. I think that is a very important question, Ali, because there is a bit of a misconception with the way the slide was presented that IUI cases and vasculitis are confusable with each other. Intraocular inflammation is very normal With intravitreal injections and the rates of intraocular inflammation that we have seen in our trials and in the real world are in line with what we saw in the clinical trials and with what we saw or what you would see with anti VEGF injections in general. So On that end, we have no concerns. It's, of course, these cases of vasculitis, which do look like they are kind of a severe complication of severe inflammation that draw our special attention. Speaker 200:46:25So I think that's an important difference there. IOI cases without vasculitis Typically have a much better recovery. I don't know, Caroline, if you would like to add something. Speaker 300:46:36We're looking into every single case that is reported to us and the rates of IOI that we've seen in the real world are consistent with the clinical study. Speaker 800:46:51Great. Thanks so much guys. Speaker 200:46:53Thank you. Operator00:46:55Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Annabel Samimy with Stifel. Your line is now open. Speaker 900:47:03Hi, thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to go back to the methods that were used in clinical trials versus the methods that are being used in real world. Is there anything that you can sense from the way physicians are assessing a patient Right now in the real world for treatment versus what was done in clinical trials, where you obviously didn't see any of These cases of retinal vasculitis and anything that you can gather from that to, Speaker 300:47:37I guess, developed some Speaker 900:47:38kind of risk mitigation plan or some kind of protocols that they can better assess the patients going forward? Speaker 200:47:46Yes. Thank you, Annabel. So look, as mentioned before, we have as Strong and desirous anyone, more probably than anyone, to try to understand this, but it is very important to be methodical in that process, which is something that we are very much dedicated to. So we don't want to comment about what Could be. We are going to look into everything. Speaker 200:48:11And when we have more information, we will share it. Of course, as a general comment, And that is how it works, right? Clinical trials are different from the real world where there is much more variability on every front. And being able to understand these signals, which again, it's unfortunate, but it is not at all unique, right? Many drugs, when they go into the real world, We'll run into unexpected findings at that point in time. Speaker 200:48:39It is on the company, on us as a sponsor To be diligent, to take these cases seriously and to evaluate them and communicate them properly. Speaker 900:48:50Okay, great. And then As far as the differences between what was reported to Appellate versus what ASRS reported on, Are you going to be getting these cases and reviewing them or and to what extent is your Independent panel overlapping at all with the ASRS panel? Is there any overlap there? Are they completely different sets of physicians? Speaker 200:49:17Yes. Thank you so much for that question. So the wonderful news here from my vantage point Is that this partnership that we had with the REST Committee and with ASRS was a very thorough process and a collaborative process where Many of these cases were shared overlapped as you could see from that slide. And importantly, we said in stone That rate is extremely rare and that it is sporadic in nature, right? Being up or down one case, We ended up remarkably close to each other, right? Speaker 200:49:52So now about the exact nature of these cases, occlusive, non occlusive, Depending on which experts you show this to, you're going to get different answers, right? But the most important thing here is you cannot count these cases as 1 up or 1 down or even to their nature, but we are very much in the same ballpark, right? So this is a very rare event fortunately And one again that is sporadic in its distribution over time. Speaker 900:50:19Okay, great. And if I could just follow-up one more. Speaker 800:50:23I know that a lot of Speaker 900:50:24people have been making a Beovu comparison. And maybe just to repeat in context for us one more time why This is not going the way of Feovu, maybe in terms of the onset and the rarity. Can you maybe just speak to that again so we can sort of put that in context? Speaker 200:50:43Yes. Thank you, Annabel. So we're very fortunate because Caroline was actually the lead author on the lead Paper on the BOV investigation and the work that was done there. So she's uniquely positioned to comment on this. Speaker 300:50:58Thank you, Cedric. I think that what we have seen with Xiphobri is very rare. In contrast, Rate of vasculitis with brolacizumab was 3.3% in patients who are in the Hock and Harringer studies, And we did not see this at all in our clinical studies. Also, as you alluded to, the onset And the clinical features differ from what was seen with brolucizumab. Speaker 900:51:34Differ in terms of when was the onset? Speaker 300:51:39Well, so, with brolucizumab, the onset was typically After 3 to 4 weeks and of note, having the events were more common with multiple injections with a shorter time interval between injections and this played a role in the discontinuation of some of the brolacizumab clinical studies. As well, brolacizumab caused an arthritis and different sorts of features on clinical exams. Speaker 900:52:11Okay, great. Thanks so much for the color. Speaker 200:52:14Thank you, Neville. Operator00:52:16Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Joseph Stenger with Needham and Company. Your line is now open. Speaker 500:52:25Hi, thanks for taking our questions. Just curious, can you comment on the return to vials and what visibility you have into this? More specifically, how many vials have been returned and or how many practices have returned such ovary vials? Speaker 400:52:46Thank you, Joey. Adam? Yes. Hey, Joey. So yes, we have seen some viral returns, but the number is actually very small. Speaker 500:53:00Okay. Thank you for taking our questions. Speaker 200:53:03Thank you, Joey. Operator00:53:05Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Douglas Tsao with H. C. Wainwright. Your line is now open. Speaker 500:53:13Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. Just first, I'm just curious, Adam, in terms of the market research For the physicians who said that they are either pausing altogether or the 3rd who are stopping with new patient starts, Just curious if you got a sense from and maybe this is more anecdotal, but just what would they sort of does it need do they need to see to restart? Speaker 400:53:43Yes. Thanks for the question. So within the recession with our conversations at ASRS this weekend, I think a lot of physicians The ones that have said they would pause, they want to just see what happens over the next couple of weeks, Right. This has all happened relatively quickly over the last few weeks and they want to see that stability. They want to see if any more information comes out. Speaker 400:54:09They have found having conversations with their patients about a rate would be important and they want to hear updates from Apellis in a Speaker 200:54:17very transparent way. That tends to be the theme Speaker 400:54:17for those physicians that are That tends to be the theme for those physicians that are either pausing new starts or Have decided to pause for enough time to get more information. That was a consistent theme at ASRS Also within our research, Caroline, I don't know if you want to add anything to that based on your positions. No, Caroline Says the same thing. So that's where we are. Speaker 500:54:44Okay. So to be clear to Adam, so it's not as if they're waiting for some Just kind of sort of conclusion on this issue, there just seems like they're waiting more to see Some stability for lack of a better word to sort of get a sense of now that this come to life that more cases aren't coming out of the woodwork, etcetera? Correct. Speaker 900:55:08Correct. Speaker 500:55:08Great. And then just as a follow-up, I think somebody asked and I'm not sure maybe I missed the answer, but just do you know Of the 68,000, how many were first injections right now? Speaker 400:55:21We don't know, but Our assumption is that the vast majority are first injections. Speaker 500:55:27Okay, great. And then just one final quick one. Are you continuing with DTC work? Or I know you had just started the Henry Winkler campaign or is that on pause right now? Speaker 400:55:38Yes, it's a great question. So DTC has had a really good impact and has driven patients to have conversations about losing vision. I think we'll be very thoughtful moving forward how we use that. Now is the time for us to have really transparent open conversations with physicians. But the DTC impact and getting patients to go and check their vision, I think is a good thing for All patients of a certain age. Speaker 400:56:06So I'm very proud of that work, but we'll be thoughtful in how we use that moving forward. Speaker 500:56:11Okay, great. Thank you so much. Operator00:56:14Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Laura Chico with Wedbush. Your line is now open. Speaker 1100:56:20Hey, good morning guys. Thanks very much for taking the question. I had just one clarification question. I apologize if I missed this, but I think Rest noted There was one incident that occurred after a second injection. So I just wanted to clarify if I have that correct, but also How Apellis came to kind of a different conclusion there? Speaker 900:56:41And then I have a follow-up. Speaker 200:56:43Yes. Thank you, Laura. So that was a suspected case. We need to look into that based on our findings all so far were first injections. Speaker 1100:56:54Okay. Thank you. And then, just kind of going back, Adam, thank you for the market research color. I guess, I realize it's premature, but what is your expectation around how the dosing interval frequency might evolve over time here now that we've Kind of encountered these safety events. How do you think physicians are going to lean one way or another in terms of the dosing interval with Ty Bollinger. Speaker 1100:57:20Thank you. Speaker 400:57:21Yes, you're welcome, Laura. Yes, absolutely. So our assumption and my assumption was Prior to these rare vasculitis events, the vast majority of physicians were using every other month type dosing. And I think this just confirms that again, every other month dosing will be used by the vast, vast majority moving forward. And I expect that to be consistent for the future. Speaker 400:57:51And I think, as we progress through this and people look at The GAIL data and the increasing effects over time and once the physician segment that needs to get comfortable with these safety events gets comfortable, I think you'll start to see A little bit of a fluctuation as monthly dosing moves, but every other month will be the vast majority. Caroline, from your perspective, anything you want to add? Speaker 300:58:15I think that physicians are very, very thoughtful and very experienced with this type of medication. And The vast majority of physicians appreciate having a label that's so flexible. I've heard all Different sorts of things, but I think between every 6 to 8 weeks with every other month dosing is the preferred paradigm. Speaker 1100:58:41Thanks very much guys. Speaker 200:58:44Thank you. Operator00:58:45I would now like to hand the conference back over to Cedric Francois for closing remarks. Speaker 200:58:51Thank you very much. Well, in closing, thank you all for joining us today. It's been, of course, An intense couple of weeks for us, but we are very happy with how we come out of ASRS because we believe that we have gained significant clarity. We are ready to take on the next couple of weeks. We will continue the investigation and promise to continue to be as transparent as we have been. Speaker 200:59:16We are around later today and tomorrow. If you have any additional questions, feel free to reach out to Meredith. Thank you. Operator00:59:24This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. 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There are 16 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Apellis Pharmaceuticals Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Meredith Kaya. Operator00:00:32Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:34Good morning and thank you for joining us today. Earlier this morning, we reported our Q2 2023 financial results. We will be happy to take questions from you on these results in the Q and A session. However, we will be focusing our prepared remarks today on SYFOVRI, including feedback from the recent ASRS Annual Meeting and an update on our comprehensive review of the rare safety events. With me on the call are Co Founder and Chief Executive Officer, Doctor. Speaker 100:00:59Cedric Francois Chief Commercial Officer, Adam Townsend Chief Medical Officer, Doctor. Caroline Baumel and Chief Financial Officer, Tim Sullivan. Before we begin, Let me point out that we will be making forward looking statements that are based on our current expectations and beliefs. These statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties and our actual results may differ materially. I encourage you to consult the risk factors discussed in our SEC filings for additional detail. Speaker 100:01:26Now I'll turn the call over to Cedric. Speaker 200:01:28Thank you, Meredith, and thank you all for joining us today. As Meredith said, We are going to take a different approach on today's call and focus the discussion on the rare events of aesculitis we have seen with Xyfovary. We know you have questions and we will do our best to answer as many of them as we can. But before we do, let me provide some overarching comments. First, I have never been prouder to be part of the Aperis team. Speaker 200:01:57The past few weeks have been challenging, And once again, the team has shown incredible dedication and resilience. 2nd, we had a strong second quarter. We reported approximately $90,000,000 in total product sales, including $67,000,000 for SYFOVRI, demonstrating the early strength of this launch. With more than 68,000 vials of SYFOVRI now distributed to physicians, SYFOVRI is having a positive impact on the lives of tens of thousands of patients across the United States. And third, SYFYVI continues to demonstrate increasing effects over time. Speaker 200:02:39Data from our GAIL long term extension study showed a reduction in non subfovial GA lesion growth of up to 45% between months 2430 as compared to projected sham. These are incredible findings, further strengthening our understanding of XIFAVI as an important treatment for patients with GA. With that, let's get into the discussion. Patient safety is our top priority and we care deeply for the physicians who rely on us. We are conducting a comprehensive investigation The potential causes of the events of vasculitis working closely within the retina community. Speaker 200:03:24We do not know the cause yet. And realistically, we may never identify a singular cause. What we do know, however, is that these events have been very rare And sporadic and that zero events were reported in our clinical studies. SYFOVRI is a newly launched drug In a new disease with a new mechanism of action, it is not unexpected that events may emerge when bringing a drug into the real world, But it is expected that we take them very seriously. Now let's get into some of your questions. Speaker 200:04:02First, what do we know so far about these events and what are the visual outcomes for these patients? I will hand it over to Caroline to speak about this. Caroline? Speaker 300:04:13Thank you, Cedric. As we get into the details, I want to recognize the Patients and physicians who have been impacted by these rare but serious events. I will reiterate what Cedric said. Patient safety is and has always been our top priority along with providing physicians with the information they need to make the best decisions for their patients. Let me share what we know today. Speaker 300:04:41Overall, these events have been rare. We have confirmed 7 events since our launch in March, And one additional reported event is being evaluated by Apellis. More than 68,000 vials of SYFOVRI have been distributed to physician practices. And based on our research, we estimate over 60,000 of those have been administered to patients. These events occurred sporadically. Speaker 300:05:09There were 2 events following injections in April, 2 in May and 3 in June. This is important because as the number of injections increased each month, there was not a corresponding increase in the number of vasculitis events. Each event happened between 7 13 days following drug administration, and all cases Reported to Apellis occurred after the first injection. We recognize that the numbers we reported on Saturday are slightly different than the numbers presented by ASRS. This is because we make determinations based on the information that we received directly from the treating physician and following review by external retina and uveitis specialists. Speaker 300:05:55Given physician confidentiality, we must be careful in what we share regarding detailed patient information. Additionally, these are highly complex cases and are sometimes difficult to interpret. However, We are working closely with ASRS to make sure we are better aligned in how we evaluate each of these events going forward. It is still too early to know the outcomes for each of these patients. Retina vasculitis by definition is a severe inflammatory event that can potentially lead to significant vision loss. Speaker 300:06:33With standard of care treatments, We hope patients will recover, but this can take up to a few months. Of the 7 confirmed patients reported to us to date, 2 have recovered vision nearly back to baseline, 2 have severe vision impairment and are unlikely to be resolved, And 3 are still evolving. For the one suspected case, the patient's vision has already returned to baseline. Working with the physicians, we are monitoring each of these patients very closely. Speaker 200:07:06Thank you, Caroline. The next question is why these events are happening? What are we doing to find the cause? And what do we know so far? Speaker 300:07:16These are really important questions and we have been collaborating with the retina community to better understand the potential factors Contributing to these events. One of the first questions we asked ourselves was why we did not see this in the clinical trials. There is a robust process for evaluating safety in a clinical study. Patients are assessed by the trial investigator Administered in our studies to date, 0 events of vasculitis have been reported. To confirm these findings, One of the first things we did upon receiving these case reports is go back to our Phase III data to make sure that nothing was missed. Speaker 300:08:09We re reviewed all cases of intraocular inflammation and retina vascular occlusion and confirmed no vasculitis events. Additionally, we asked the panel of retina and uveitis specialists to re review all severe intraocular inflammation events as well as 2 leading neuro ophthalmologists to re review our ischemic optics neuropathy events, both of whom further confirmed that there were no vasculitis events. We also know from our clinical trials that there was no indication of drug related immunogenicity. Data showed no correlation between IOI events and any antidrug antibodies, providing evidence that these events were unlikely to be caused by an immune response to either the peptide or to polyethylene glycol. These findings are important to our investigation as there were no changes in the formulation Speaker 200:09:13Thank you, Caroline. So if we did not see anything in the clinical trials, Then what else are we looking into as a potential cause? Speaker 300:09:22The next important area we looked into was manufacturing processes and drug quality, and there is no indication that these contributed to the vasculitis events. No single manufacturing lot was implicated. No manufacturing issues were identified related to intraocular inflammation and no quality issues or contamination such as endotoxins were found. There has been some confusion around Cyfovari being a biologic and that these events may have been due to endotoxin. To clarify, XIFAVIRI is not a biologic. Speaker 300:10:01It is a synthetic peptide that binds specifically to C3 and C3b. Levels of drug product Endotoxin in all clinical and commercial batches of SYFOVRI are significantly lower than the reporting threshold and the FDA's expectation for ophthalmic dosage forms for injection. As for what else, We are continuing to investigate potential contributing factors. This includes looking into patient characteristics as well as evaluating any variations from the clinical trials to real world. We don't have any answers on these today. Speaker 200:10:42Thanks again, Caroline. Okay. Now that we've talked about the investigation, let's turn to how the conversations have been with over the past few weeks and of course, specifically here at ASRS. Caroline, why don't you start and then turn over to Adam share what you're both hearing from the retina community and what this might mean for treatment going forward. Speaker 300:11:05Sure. Thanks, Cedric. Over the past 2 weeks, we have been deeply engaged with the physician community and as Adam will share Also conducted some early market research to better understand perception and impact. Upon hearing of these events, The first thing I did was reach out to multiple physician practices to better understand their experiences with SYFOVRI so far. These are physicians who in total have administered thousands of SYFOVRI injections to date and they have not seen any cases of vasculitis. Speaker 300:11:42Since then, we have continued to talk with dozens of leading experts in our field and just spent the past 4 days with Hundreds of retina specialists at the ASRS meeting in Seattle. Overall, physicians are eager for more information, and this will take time and more data. These are serious safety events and physicians need to understand how to think about treatment. As a retina physician, I can attest that my colleagues are experts when it comes to treating their patients, especially with intravitreal injections. They are thoughtful in the decisions that they make, Understand the risks associated with these therapies and can effectively communicate the benefit risk profile to their patients. Speaker 300:12:32I'll turn it over to Adam to share a bit of what he and his team are also hearing. Speaker 400:12:37Thanks, Caroline, and good morning, everyone. The commercial team has also spent an enormous amount of time engaging with retina doctors over the past few weeks and then in person this weekend at ASRS. Our number one priority is to make sure that physicians know Following the member communication from ASRS, we have sent 2 communications to physicians Sharing additional color and context about these events and held numerous calls with our physicians and our speakers. The feedback we are getting from the field is very consistent with what Caroline spoke to earlier. Additionally, and prior to the ASRS meeting, we conducted some early market research with U. Speaker 400:13:31S. Retina specialists, most of whom had previous experience treating patients with Xiphofri. The key takeaways of this survey were That one third of the surveyed doctors said they plan to continue using Xiphobri as they had been prior to the vasculitis events in both new and existing patients. The next third said they plan to continue using Xiphobri in their existing patients, but may pause use in new patients. And the remaining third of doctors said they plan to pause treatment until they have more information or until their patients request treatment. Speaker 400:14:14Based on this, We do anticipate some sales bumpiness in the near term as many seek to gain more information. Our job is to be a thoughtful, transparent partner over these next few months. We believe it is important To continue to bring this treatment to the millions of people suffering from GA in the U. S. And to be ready to bring this to patients worldwide very soon. Speaker 400:14:40A quick update on the latter. Our marketing applications are under review in multiple territories worldwide, including the EU, And we expect approval decisions starting in early 2024. With that, Cedric, I'll hand it back to you. Speaker 200:14:56Thank you, Adam. Okay. Another question on everyone's mind is how we think these rare events will impact XIFAVIRI sales and ultimately, of course, our cash runway? And how are we thinking about financing at this point? Tim, can you comment on this? Speaker 500:15:12Of course. Thanks, Cedric. Speaker 600:15:13As of the Q2, we had $1616,000,000 in cash. Based on our current assumptions, this provides us with a runway into the Q1 of 20 However, these safety events may impact the sales trajectory in the near term, but because it is all very new, we don't know the magnitude. We are monitoring demand very closely and in parallel looking at our overall spend to ensure we are being disciplined and thoughtful going forward. We will be transparent with you, but we don't have all of the details for you today. As for financing, we are not under any immediate pressure to raise money. Speaker 600:15:49As we always do, we will evaluate multiple ways in which to finance the company at the right time and with our shareholders in mind. Speaker 200:15:57Thank you, Tim. On to the last question then, because ASRS was not just about safety for us this weekend. We also presented some exciting new data from our GAIL long term extension study. Caroline, can you please give us an overview about some of the new data that was Speaker 300:16:14Yes, absolutely. Thanks, Cedric. We had a strong presence at ASRS this weekend with 7 podium presentations. Notably, we shared for the first time data from our GAIL extension study reinforcing the long term efficacy and safety of SYFOVRI. These data demonstrated that SYFOVRI reduced GA lesion growth by up to 39% in the monthly arm between months 20 430 as compared to the projected sham arm. Speaker 300:16:49What we were most excited about were the effects seen in non subfovial GA patients, as Cedric mentioned earlier. Between months 2430, SYFOVRI reduced noncifovial GA lesion growth by 45% in the monthly arm. This means that within 3 years, patients with non subfovial lesions are seeing the rate of GA progression and a large well controlled study. The safety profile in Gale was consistent with previously reported Phase III data. In addition to the Gale data, we also shared data using AI technology demonstrating the effect of Xiphobri in Photoreceptor cell degeneration. Speaker 300:17:45Photoreceptor cells are responsible for visual acuity And the degradation of these photoreceptor cells are significantly reduced upon initiation of SYFOVRI treatment. Both the Gale and the photoreceptor data along with additional analysis presented over these past few days Contribute to the most robust data set against GA and reinforce the importance of treatment with SYFOVRI to help to protect against this irreversible disease. I'll turn it back over to Cedric for closing remarks. Speaker 200:18:20Thank you, Caroline. We are very excited about the data presented at ASRS. Although it has been a turbulent few weeks, We believe that we have a strong future ahead of us. We are closely monitoring the safety of SYFOVRI in the real world and will formally update on the rate of events on our quarterly calls. We will not be commenting on future individual cases. Speaker 200:18:45We intend to handle this situation with the utmost integrity and transparency and do what is right for our patients, physicians and investors. Blazing a new trail in geographic atrophy is not easy, but I am confident in the Aperdis team And we look forward to bringing SYFOVI to patients in need worldwide. We are also proud of the impact that Empaviti is having on patients with PNH. Additionally, we continue to advance a robust clinical and preclinical pipeline to achieve our goal of improving the lives of Let us now open the call for questions. Operator? Operator00:19:31Thank Our first question comes from the line of Umer Raffat with Evercore. Your line is now open. Speaker 700:19:52Hi, guys. It's actually John on for Umer. I would love a little bit more clarity on the inventory in that 68 ks vials shipped as of this past weekend. Can you confirm how much inventory in average stock keeps on stock and how much inventory would be in the channel at any given time? Then furthermore, one bit of feedback that we were hearing out of ASRS is that there may have been a change from trial to commercial In the device, was there a supplier for the trials that had automatic draw up of the SYFAVY solution? Speaker 700:20:29Commercial docs have been complaining that draw up from the vial obviously is challenging and that's a little bit different for this product. So is that something that could be driving this or something you've looked into? Speaker 200:20:39Thank you, John. I will hand the first question over to Adam and then take the second one. Speaker 400:20:43Hi, John, it's Adam. So yes, of the 68 1,000 vials, those have been distributed to physician practices. And we contacted our top prescribers. And on average, we after those discussions, our top prescribers tell us they hold approximately a week's worth of inventory within their fridges. So the vast majority of those 68,000 vials are likely not sitting in fridges. Speaker 400:21:12They're Probably being used with patients. So on average about a week held in a refrigerator. Hopefully that answers the first part and then I'll hand back to Cedric. Thank you, Adam. So I Speaker 200:21:24think, John, we had an important objective this weekend coming to ASRS, and that was, First of all, to work closely with the SRS and get a very good sense of what is happening nationwide, I. E, How large is this problem? Is there something that we have missed? And secondly, is this rate changing over time, right? And so what's very important here and the key Objective of this weekend and the research that we did in the past couple of weeks is that we can conclude that these events are very rare. Speaker 200:21:55And as Caroline mentioned earlier, that they don't increase over time, right? They're sporadic in nature. I think that is really, really important. Then of course comes the question, what is the potential etiology behind this? And as you can imagine, of course, and as you mentioned, The best starting point is what was different in the clinical trials versus the real world. Speaker 200:22:16We are going to be very methodical, And we are not going to engage in hypothesizing until we have data. And I think that is really important. That is something that we owe to physicians and to patients. In that investigation, the first step was to find out is the drug product that we are delivering to physicians today The same as the drug product that we used in the clinical trials? And the answer is yes. Speaker 200:22:41We are now going to take next steps To evaluate other factors that could have played role, but we will only communicate on those when we have more clarity. Speaker 700:22:54So when you say that the product is the same, you're specifically not talking necessarily about any of the Additional materials that may have come along with the vial of drug like syringes, drop, assisting devices, things like that? Speaker 200:23:10All of these will be part of our investigation. Speaker 700:23:15All right. Thank you very much. Speaker 200:23:17Thank you, John. Operator00:23:19Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tazeen Ahmad with Bank of America. Your line is now open. Speaker 800:23:27Hi, good morning guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Also I wanted to clarify upon some of your prepared remarks. So Cedric, how are you thinking about on a go forward basis the risk mitigation plan, maybe this is appropriate for Adam, because Adam, you've talked about what you've done so far, but I think docs probably will would benefit from guidance from the company going forward. And so where are you And trying to plan that out. Speaker 800:23:55Secondly, I wanted to clarify, were all of the cases of Aesculitis that were reported To ASRS, were they injected by retina specialists or were any of them done by general ophthalmologists? And then I have a follow-up. Speaker 200:24:12Thank you so much, Stacie. So first of all, briefly on the risk mitigations and Doc's guidance, I think it is really important here that we have a label, that we have a way of that we have thoroughly evaluated in clinical trials of distributing this product and using this product. And that is something that we, of course, want to stick to as closely as possible. We have communicated with physicians through letters to update them, and we will continue to do so to make sure that the routes of communication are thorough. We will continue to work with the ASRS. Speaker 200:24:48As far as it relates to practice mitigation steps, etcetera, We are going to be working with the retina community, but the retina community is better positioned than anyone, right, to talk about how this should be handled. I think, again, the most important fact that we wanted to get our hands on this weekend was to understand the rate And the sporadic nature and to communicate that with ASRS to the community. So I think that is really important. The vasculitis cases that were all reported, I will look to Caroline, but I believe were all done by retina doctors. That is correct. Speaker 200:25:28Yes. Speaker 800:25:29Okay. Thanks. And then lastly, I think ASRS said that there has been a suspected case that maybe hasn't been Firms that occurred after the second Cytovery injection. I think this was not reported to you, but Over the past weekend, have you had the opportunity to learn a little bit more about that particular patient's characteristics? Speaker 200:25:51Yes. I think it's important to point out here that suspected cases are suspected for a reason, right, in the sense that we There are many confounding factors that come into this. This is not an exact science, right? But the key thing is that after Kind of a really thorough search nationwide, right, that we ended up realizing that we are very close to where we were a few weeks ago, Right. There was not like a hidden tsunami that all of a sudden came our way. Speaker 200:26:21So there will, in all likelihood, be new cases. We will take those and evaluate those. We will continue to work with ASRS, but with the knowledge that the rates and the sporadic nature of these events Create a risk benefit profile that physicians can then openly communicate about with their patients. Speaker 900:26:43Okay. Thanks, Cedric. Speaker 200:26:44Thank you, Salim. Operator00:26:46Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Anupam Rama with JPMorgan. Your line is now open. Speaker 1000:26:54Hey guys, thanks so much for taking the question. Maybe a question on how you segmented the So the one maybe the 1 third of physicians who you've talked to that are remaining going to continue to prescribe. You give us a sense of where these physicians fall into sort of what you've seen as amongst your top prescribers to date? Speaker 400:27:18Adam? Yes, absolutely. So yes, the one third of our market research, so They tend to be actually a mix. So they're a mix of our top prescribers, large accounts, but they're also slightly smaller accounts. So The Xiphover uses within our market research had between 12.50 patients. Speaker 400:27:40So you can tell there that there's a broad Bolus of cypheruse within that snapshot market research we did prior to ASRS. So we tend to get usage across the large PE backed Accounts and smaller accounts as well. So in our market research, that was consistent within that third. Speaker 1000:28:01Thanks so much for taking our question. Speaker 200:28:04Thanks, Anupam. Speaker 100:28:05Thank Operator00:28:06you. Our next question comes from the line of Colleen Cussey with Baird. Your line is now open. Speaker 800:28:14Thanks. Good morning and thanks for taking our questions. So We've heard similar feedback on the needle in the commercial kit. Are there any progress made on potentially Developing a prefilled syringe for SYFYBRI and how long would that take to bring to market? Speaker 200:28:32Yes. Thank you, Colleen. So again, as mentioned earlier, our investigation around the ancillaries is part of the overall investigation. And of course, a prefilled syringe is An important objective for us, it was before these events occurred as well. That is unfortunately something that takes several years of development as was the case For Lucentis and Eylea as well, we are working very hard towards that, but that is not something that you should expect in the near future. Speaker 800:29:01That's helpful. Thank you. And a follow-up. So at least one of the patient's vision did recover encouragingly. Anything notable about that case Speaker 200:29:19Carolyn? Speaker 300:29:21Thank you. As I presented earlier in this talk that 2 of the patients Have recovered vision nearly back to baseline and 3 cases are still in evolution. What I would say is that these cases are so rare And complex, it's difficult to make any interpretation about treatment guidelines at the present, but we will continue to communicate With the retina community and update them when we have some guidance. Speaker 800:29:54Thank you. And last one from us, just in Europe, Have you submitted these vasculitis cases to European regulators? And do you Speaker 300:30:00expect that to be part of the review? Speaker 200:30:03Of course. We communicate all safety events to all the regulatory authorities. Speaker 1100:30:10Great. Thanks for taking my question. Speaker 200:30:12Thank you, Toni. Operator00:30:14Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Yigal Nochomovitz with Citigroup. Your line is now open. Speaker 1200:30:21Hi, Cedric and team. Thanks for taking the question. On the survey you conducted, you mentioned that the market research was conducted before ASRS. So just when you presented the Survey to the physicians, was that just based on the contents of the ASRS letter from mid July? Or were there any further details that they were Given with respect to either the retinal images or detailed aspects of the case studies presented on Saturday. Speaker 1200:30:46Thanks. Speaker 200:30:47Thank you, Yigal. Good hearing you. Adam? Yes. Hi, Yigal. Speaker 200:30:51So what Speaker 400:30:52we did was with the survey, we only used the letter From ASRS as the basis for that. Speaker 1200:31:01Okay, thanks. And then just Being very specific with respect to the statement around drug product or manufacturing, I mean, are you saying That excludes the potential of the underlying mechanism of action of CEDFOVRA on C3 inhibition or does drug product in manufacturing just apply to The way the excipients were produced or any other aspects of the manufacturing process, but not necessarily the mode of action itself? Yes. Speaker 200:31:29So the mode of action is going to be part of the broader investigation. But again, the mode of action was the same in the clinical trials, of course, as it was in the real world. So again, no answers there yet. All we can say is that the product that was manufactured and used in the clinical trials It's the same product as the product that we are distributing to physicians to date, all within the same specs and the same manufacturing process. Speaker 1200:31:54Okay. And then I know Carolyn mentioned a few times these are highly complex cases. And I don't think I saw in the ASRS slides any demographics on the Other than NDA, is there anything you can say, any potential commonality in terms of comorbidities or other Conditions or disease conditions that may be at least a hypothesis that you're going to pursue or these all just highly divergent, Highly complex and no clear way to pursue a hypothesis other than obviously the commonality of all having GA. Speaker 200:32:31Thank you, Yigal. These cases are so rare that, as you can imagine, kind of Trying to find commonalities between patients requires something that would require a much larger denominator or not numerator. So We're going to continue to track it and continue to investigate. But right now, all we have done is be able to exclude manufacturing. The rest will be subject to further research. Speaker 1200:32:58Okay. Thanks, Cedric. Speaker 200:33:00Thank you. Operator00:33:02Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Steven Seedhouse with Raymond James. Your line is now open. Speaker 1300:33:11Yes. Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. I have a commercial one and then a follow-up for Caroline, if I could. Some of the numbers that We now have ENHANCE of 42,000 vials distributed to offices in the 2nd quarter, 60,000 per the ASRS letter as of July 15. Speaker 1300:33:28That implies if we back out 1Q as well implies like 8,000 or 9,000 let's say in the 1st 2 weeks of July that were distributed Then we have the 65,000 number on July 21 and 68,000 on July 29 that you're updating today as well, Which would imply like 8,000 bios distributed in the second half of July. So can you just corroborate that math? I mean, I appreciate you said You know that you expect some sales impact and certainly the survey work suggests that, but it really does look like the first half and the second half of July had about the same number of vials distributed. Speaker 200:34:02Thank you, Steve. Adam? Hi, Steve. Yes, Speaker 400:34:05I think your math is right. But one thing to think about is This week and sorry, the week just gone and this current week is obviously the ASRS weekend. So a lot of physicians are actually here or we're here in Seattle. So we always calendarize some bumpiness for this week as physicians tend to attend these conferences. But the orders for vials are continuing and have continued throughout the last couple of weeks, as your math explained. Speaker 1300:34:39Okay, thanks. And for Caroline, just there seem to be some discussion during the ASRS panel presentation on Saturday that TAPAN and JAK for instance, especially vancomycin is not necessarily an optimal approach for management of retinal vasculitis if that is suspected, Which it wasn't because it hadn't been observed in the clinical study and based on the Beovu experience, I think something like intraocular steroids especially early on Might be a better approach and could maybe mitigate some of the worst outcomes now that this is a known possibility. So is that Characterization accurate and do you think visual outcomes could be improved just on that basis alone going forward if this happens in the future? Thanks. Speaker 300:35:22Well, as I said before, and thank you for that question, these cases are complex and They're not all bound by commonality. I think we have more to learn with our retina colleagues on management of these cases. Speaker 700:35:42Great. Thanks. Operator00:35:44Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Phil Nadeau with TD Cowen. Your line is now open. Speaker 1400:35:53Good morning. Thanks for taking our questions. A couple from us. First on the conclusion that manufacturing was involved, can you discuss a bit more of the basis for that conclusion? What assays were Performed and generally what analysis did you do to conclude manufacturing is not an issue? Speaker 200:36:14Yes. Thank you, Phil. So as you know, the way these investigations starts by looking into manufacturing are actually Quite well standardized, right? So our CMC group has a process to go through where A lot specifically gets investigated to find out that all of these cases were not related to one specific lot. We then look whether all the drug product that was shipped Within the specs that are predefined in our registrational batches and through the NDA. Speaker 200:36:45And then much more work around Testing and evaluating whether the possibility of the introduction of a manufacturing problem was involved in these cases. And the answer to that was no. Speaker 1400:36:59You may recall the ePrex situation about 20 years ago where ePrex was associated with red cell aplasia. And I think it turned out to be they changed like The supplier of the rubber stoppers, something that seemed totally innocuous. If that same situation had been the case here, would The analysis you did to look at manufacturing supply have picked up that as a potential cause. Are they that detailed? Speaker 200:37:22If there was a change between what we did in the clinical trials in terms of how we manufacture the product and what we do now in the real world, we would have told So this is all within the same specs and the same use and the same manufacturing process That we used in our clinical trials as well. Speaker 1400:37:40Perfect. And then, second question. At ASRS, there were some questions from physicians on the per patient incidence Since it seems to happen after the first dose, physicians were wondering what would be the risk of a naive patient of going on therapy. Do you have any estimates as to how many patients are on therapy? And so what is the per patient incidence of a naive patient getting the Vasculitis? Speaker 200:38:03Yes. Thank you so much for that question, Phil. It's very early, of course, to look into something like that. Of course, the majority of these estimated 60,000 injections in the real world are probably going to Or will probably have been first time injections in first time patients. So that, of course, provides a huge denominator from which to work. Speaker 200:38:26And now we're going to find out, right? I mean, whether this is the first injection phenomenon and subsequent injections, we just don't know a lot Yes. Other than the fact that it's an extremely rare event and that it is an event that is sporadic in nature, right? And I think that's really important To bear in mind is that the retina community ran through kind of a very traumatizing event a couple of years ago, where product was introduced, where an increased incidence over time was taking place, where this product Well, sensitizing patients and more and more patients came out of the woodworks and physicians, that is absolutely not what is happening here. So I think it's important to State that categorically. Speaker 1400:39:12Then last question from us. In terms of the path going forward, do you have any information on when ASRS could provide an update on It's analysis of cases or does, Appellus have any timelines to providing a next disclosure on either Your root cause analysis or the incidence of Vascelais? Speaker 200:39:32Yes. So as we mentioned, we will provide a quarterly update as it relates To the rates, and we are going to provide updates on the investigation when we have things to tell, right? So we're not going to Make an update unless we have real clarity around understanding this, and we are going to continue to work with ASRS. We're very grateful for the partnership that we have with them. Speaker 500:39:56Great. Thanks for Speaker 1400:39:57taking our questions. Speaker 200:39:58Thank you, Phil. Operator00:40:00Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Justin Kim with Oppenheimer and Company. Your line is now open. Speaker 1500:40:08Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. Maybe shifting gears a little bit towards Gail. Speaker 1200:40:16Just in the context of Speaker 1500:40:17the safety events and given that Gail is really delivering on showing those increasing effects over time, Just wondering how you've heard the feedback in terms of patient participation in the U. S. For the clinical study and whether sort of those subgroups are continuing on, especially given that these events aren't being observed in clinical study? Speaker 200:40:44Yes. Thank you so much for that question, Justin. So first of all, as you may recall, the number of patients that went from Derby and OXIN to GAL It was very high, read approximately 80% of the patients in the trial decided to go into this 3 year extension study. We are actually, I think months away from having the 1st patient who has been on treatment for 5 years with Xyfulvary already in the GALE study. So an incredibly rich An important database for us to understand not just the safety, but also as you mentioned the efficacy. Speaker 200:41:17As Caroline mentioned earlier, if you have a patient with extraphobia lesions, and as a reminder for those that are not familiar with this, these are patients who have GA in the periphery Of their vision, so still with typically a good ability to read and recognize objects with their central vision, in other words, Patients that can really benefit being able to slow down the progression of the disease by something that looks like it's close to 50% is, of course, Incredibly important. And with all of these things, of course, we have these safety events, which we take very seriously, which we will investigate. On the flip side, Operator00:42:06Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Derek Archila with Wells Fargo, your line is open. Speaker 500:42:14Hey, good morning and thanks for taking the questions. Just 2 from us. I guess, first off, can you just remind us how many patients present with bilateral disease? And I just do you think the ASR That's notification may deter docs from doing injections in both eyes. And then also I know you haven't said You're still working on the investigation, but no similarities or commonalities between these patients experiencing retinal vasculitis has been determined. Speaker 500:42:40But if there is, Would you expect future label language that could direct patients or I'm sorry, direct docs to the patients who are best suited for therapy? Is that something Speaker 200:42:53Thank you, Derek. Let me start with the second question. It is way too early to talk about that. We are obviously in very close communication with the FDA on all of these things. That is something that we will evaluate and potentially do when more information is available. Speaker 200:43:11As it relates to bilateral patients, Caroline, maybe you could Speak to that. Speaker 300:43:16Thank you, Cedric. As the ASRF did present, they did present that one bilateral case. And I think that is we have retina physicians who are very thoughtful in what they do. And we Typically do include bilateral injections in our treatment paradigm. And however, that case does Highlight that when we have a new product, it may be prudent to consider Unilateral injection first time with use. Speaker 200:43:54Got you. Thank you so much. Thank you, Derek. Operator00:43:58Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ellie Merle with UBS. Your line is now open. Speaker 800:44:07Thank you so much for taking the question. What's your understanding in the cases If all of those were given using the provided administration materials or did any of the physicians choose to use, say, a different syringe for the injection or maybe deviate in any way from the proper administration procedures. And then just also you alluded to you submitted the safety findings to the EMA. Just any color on that so far from those interactions. Thanks. Speaker 200:44:36Thank you so much, Eli. So again, I think it's important to note here that This is the heart and the bread and butter of these practices for the last 15 years or so. So that is something that needs to be remembered here. Syringes, ancillaries, as mentioned Will be part of our broader investigation and we will comment on that when we have more information. As it relates to the EMEA, We communicate, as I mentioned, everything, of course, to these agencies. Speaker 200:45:15It becomes part of the evaluation. That evaluation with EMEA so far has been going well. So For now, we don't see any changes. Speaker 800:45:26Great. Thanks. And just a quick follow-up. In the patients that had IOI who didn't have retinal vasculitis, I guess, did they have any vision impact and any color on if those cases fully recovered? Thanks. Speaker 200:45:39Yes. I think that is a very important question, Ali, because there is a bit of a misconception with the way the slide was presented that IUI cases and vasculitis are confusable with each other. Intraocular inflammation is very normal With intravitreal injections and the rates of intraocular inflammation that we have seen in our trials and in the real world are in line with what we saw in the clinical trials and with what we saw or what you would see with anti VEGF injections in general. So On that end, we have no concerns. It's, of course, these cases of vasculitis, which do look like they are kind of a severe complication of severe inflammation that draw our special attention. Speaker 200:46:25So I think that's an important difference there. IOI cases without vasculitis Typically have a much better recovery. I don't know, Caroline, if you would like to add something. Speaker 300:46:36We're looking into every single case that is reported to us and the rates of IOI that we've seen in the real world are consistent with the clinical study. Speaker 800:46:51Great. Thanks so much guys. Speaker 200:46:53Thank you. Operator00:46:55Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Annabel Samimy with Stifel. Your line is now open. Speaker 900:47:03Hi, thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to go back to the methods that were used in clinical trials versus the methods that are being used in real world. Is there anything that you can sense from the way physicians are assessing a patient Right now in the real world for treatment versus what was done in clinical trials, where you obviously didn't see any of These cases of retinal vasculitis and anything that you can gather from that to, Speaker 300:47:37I guess, developed some Speaker 900:47:38kind of risk mitigation plan or some kind of protocols that they can better assess the patients going forward? Speaker 200:47:46Yes. Thank you, Annabel. So look, as mentioned before, we have as Strong and desirous anyone, more probably than anyone, to try to understand this, but it is very important to be methodical in that process, which is something that we are very much dedicated to. So we don't want to comment about what Could be. We are going to look into everything. Speaker 200:48:11And when we have more information, we will share it. Of course, as a general comment, And that is how it works, right? Clinical trials are different from the real world where there is much more variability on every front. And being able to understand these signals, which again, it's unfortunate, but it is not at all unique, right? Many drugs, when they go into the real world, We'll run into unexpected findings at that point in time. Speaker 200:48:39It is on the company, on us as a sponsor To be diligent, to take these cases seriously and to evaluate them and communicate them properly. Speaker 900:48:50Okay, great. And then As far as the differences between what was reported to Appellate versus what ASRS reported on, Are you going to be getting these cases and reviewing them or and to what extent is your Independent panel overlapping at all with the ASRS panel? Is there any overlap there? Are they completely different sets of physicians? Speaker 200:49:17Yes. Thank you so much for that question. So the wonderful news here from my vantage point Is that this partnership that we had with the REST Committee and with ASRS was a very thorough process and a collaborative process where Many of these cases were shared overlapped as you could see from that slide. And importantly, we said in stone That rate is extremely rare and that it is sporadic in nature, right? Being up or down one case, We ended up remarkably close to each other, right? Speaker 200:49:52So now about the exact nature of these cases, occlusive, non occlusive, Depending on which experts you show this to, you're going to get different answers, right? But the most important thing here is you cannot count these cases as 1 up or 1 down or even to their nature, but we are very much in the same ballpark, right? So this is a very rare event fortunately And one again that is sporadic in its distribution over time. Speaker 900:50:19Okay, great. And if I could just follow-up one more. Speaker 800:50:23I know that a lot of Speaker 900:50:24people have been making a Beovu comparison. And maybe just to repeat in context for us one more time why This is not going the way of Feovu, maybe in terms of the onset and the rarity. Can you maybe just speak to that again so we can sort of put that in context? Speaker 200:50:43Yes. Thank you, Annabel. So we're very fortunate because Caroline was actually the lead author on the lead Paper on the BOV investigation and the work that was done there. So she's uniquely positioned to comment on this. Speaker 300:50:58Thank you, Cedric. I think that what we have seen with Xiphobri is very rare. In contrast, Rate of vasculitis with brolacizumab was 3.3% in patients who are in the Hock and Harringer studies, And we did not see this at all in our clinical studies. Also, as you alluded to, the onset And the clinical features differ from what was seen with brolucizumab. Speaker 900:51:34Differ in terms of when was the onset? Speaker 300:51:39Well, so, with brolucizumab, the onset was typically After 3 to 4 weeks and of note, having the events were more common with multiple injections with a shorter time interval between injections and this played a role in the discontinuation of some of the brolacizumab clinical studies. As well, brolacizumab caused an arthritis and different sorts of features on clinical exams. Speaker 900:52:11Okay, great. Thanks so much for the color. Speaker 200:52:14Thank you, Neville. Operator00:52:16Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Joseph Stenger with Needham and Company. Your line is now open. Speaker 500:52:25Hi, thanks for taking our questions. Just curious, can you comment on the return to vials and what visibility you have into this? More specifically, how many vials have been returned and or how many practices have returned such ovary vials? Speaker 400:52:46Thank you, Joey. Adam? Yes. Hey, Joey. So yes, we have seen some viral returns, but the number is actually very small. Speaker 500:53:00Okay. Thank you for taking our questions. Speaker 200:53:03Thank you, Joey. Operator00:53:05Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Douglas Tsao with H. C. Wainwright. Your line is now open. Speaker 500:53:13Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. Just first, I'm just curious, Adam, in terms of the market research For the physicians who said that they are either pausing altogether or the 3rd who are stopping with new patient starts, Just curious if you got a sense from and maybe this is more anecdotal, but just what would they sort of does it need do they need to see to restart? Speaker 400:53:43Yes. Thanks for the question. So within the recession with our conversations at ASRS this weekend, I think a lot of physicians The ones that have said they would pause, they want to just see what happens over the next couple of weeks, Right. This has all happened relatively quickly over the last few weeks and they want to see that stability. They want to see if any more information comes out. Speaker 400:54:09They have found having conversations with their patients about a rate would be important and they want to hear updates from Apellis in a Speaker 200:54:17very transparent way. That tends to be the theme Speaker 400:54:17for those physicians that are That tends to be the theme for those physicians that are either pausing new starts or Have decided to pause for enough time to get more information. That was a consistent theme at ASRS Also within our research, Caroline, I don't know if you want to add anything to that based on your positions. No, Caroline Says the same thing. So that's where we are. Speaker 500:54:44Okay. So to be clear to Adam, so it's not as if they're waiting for some Just kind of sort of conclusion on this issue, there just seems like they're waiting more to see Some stability for lack of a better word to sort of get a sense of now that this come to life that more cases aren't coming out of the woodwork, etcetera? Correct. Speaker 900:55:08Correct. Speaker 500:55:08Great. And then just as a follow-up, I think somebody asked and I'm not sure maybe I missed the answer, but just do you know Of the 68,000, how many were first injections right now? Speaker 400:55:21We don't know, but Our assumption is that the vast majority are first injections. Speaker 500:55:27Okay, great. And then just one final quick one. Are you continuing with DTC work? Or I know you had just started the Henry Winkler campaign or is that on pause right now? Speaker 400:55:38Yes, it's a great question. So DTC has had a really good impact and has driven patients to have conversations about losing vision. I think we'll be very thoughtful moving forward how we use that. Now is the time for us to have really transparent open conversations with physicians. But the DTC impact and getting patients to go and check their vision, I think is a good thing for All patients of a certain age. Speaker 400:56:06So I'm very proud of that work, but we'll be thoughtful in how we use that moving forward. Speaker 500:56:11Okay, great. Thank you so much. Operator00:56:14Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Laura Chico with Wedbush. Your line is now open. Speaker 1100:56:20Hey, good morning guys. Thanks very much for taking the question. I had just one clarification question. I apologize if I missed this, but I think Rest noted There was one incident that occurred after a second injection. So I just wanted to clarify if I have that correct, but also How Apellis came to kind of a different conclusion there? Speaker 900:56:41And then I have a follow-up. Speaker 200:56:43Yes. Thank you, Laura. So that was a suspected case. We need to look into that based on our findings all so far were first injections. Speaker 1100:56:54Okay. Thank you. And then, just kind of going back, Adam, thank you for the market research color. I guess, I realize it's premature, but what is your expectation around how the dosing interval frequency might evolve over time here now that we've Kind of encountered these safety events. How do you think physicians are going to lean one way or another in terms of the dosing interval with Ty Bollinger. Speaker 1100:57:20Thank you. Speaker 400:57:21Yes, you're welcome, Laura. Yes, absolutely. So our assumption and my assumption was Prior to these rare vasculitis events, the vast majority of physicians were using every other month type dosing. And I think this just confirms that again, every other month dosing will be used by the vast, vast majority moving forward. And I expect that to be consistent for the future. Speaker 400:57:51And I think, as we progress through this and people look at The GAIL data and the increasing effects over time and once the physician segment that needs to get comfortable with these safety events gets comfortable, I think you'll start to see A little bit of a fluctuation as monthly dosing moves, but every other month will be the vast majority. Caroline, from your perspective, anything you want to add? Speaker 300:58:15I think that physicians are very, very thoughtful and very experienced with this type of medication. And The vast majority of physicians appreciate having a label that's so flexible. I've heard all Different sorts of things, but I think between every 6 to 8 weeks with every other month dosing is the preferred paradigm. Speaker 1100:58:41Thanks very much guys. Speaker 200:58:44Thank you. Operator00:58:45I would now like to hand the conference back over to Cedric Francois for closing remarks. Speaker 200:58:51Thank you very much. Well, in closing, thank you all for joining us today. It's been, of course, An intense couple of weeks for us, but we are very happy with how we come out of ASRS because we believe that we have gained significant clarity. We are ready to take on the next couple of weeks. We will continue the investigation and promise to continue to be as transparent as we have been. Speaker 200:59:16We are around later today and tomorrow. If you have any additional questions, feel free to reach out to Meredith. Thank you. Operator00:59:24This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.Read morePowered by