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ProfileEarnings HistoryForecast Black Stone Minerals EPS ResultsActual EPS$0.35Consensus EPS $0.37Beat/MissMissed by -$0.02One Year Ago EPSN/ABlack Stone Minerals Revenue ResultsActual Revenue$117.00 millionExpected Revenue$116.33 millionBeat/MissBeat by +$670.00 thousandYoY Revenue GrowthN/ABlack Stone Minerals Announcement DetailsQuarterQ2 2023Date7/31/2023TimeN/AConference Call DateTuesday, August 1, 2023Conference Call Time10:00AM ETConference Call ResourcesConference Call AudioConference Call TranscriptPress Release (8-K)Quarterly Report (10-Q)Earnings HistoryCompany ProfilePowered by Black Stone Minerals Q2 2023 Earnings Call TranscriptProvided by QuartrAugust 1, 2023 ShareLink copied to clipboard.Key Takeaways We posted $109.2 million of adjusted EBITDA for Q2, marking the 5th consecutive quarter above $100 million. Total production volumes fell to 36,200 BOE/d, down 8% quarter-over-quarter due to natural gas price pullbacks and declines from wells brought online in late 2022. Our hedge portfolio delivered $28.2 million in realized gains, lifting post-hedge prices to over $76/bbl for oil and $4.50/MMBtu for gas. The board maintained a distribution of $0.475 per unit with 1.04× coverage and a debt-free balance sheet, holding over $80 million in cash pre-distribution. Development agreements with Aethon are driving growth, with 22 wells turned to sales in Shelby Trough, 27 more in progress, and a new 10-well pact for East Texas. AI Generated. May Contain Errors.Conference Call Audio Live Call not available Earnings Conference CallBlack Stone Minerals Q2 202300:00 / 00:00Speed:1x1.25x1.5x2xThere are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, everyone, and welcome to today's Blackstone Minerals 2Q Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Please note this call may be recorded. I will be standing by if you should need any assistance. Is now my pleasure to turn the conference over to Mark Moe, Director of Finance. Operator00:00:28Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:30Thank you. Good morning to everyone. Thank you for joining us either by phone or online for Blackstone Minerals' 2nd quarter 2023 earnings conference call. Today's call is being recorded and will be available on our website along with Earnings release, which was issued last night. Before we start, I'd like to advise you that we will be making forward looking statements during this call About our plans, expectations and assumptions regarding our future performance. Speaker 100:00:56These statements involve risks that may cause our actual results to differ materially from the results expressed or implied in our forward looking statements. For a discussion of these risks, You should refer to the cautionary information about forward looking statements in our press release from yesterday and the Risk Factors section of our 2022 10 ks. We may refer to certain non GAAP financial measures that we believe are useful in evaluating our performance. Reconciliation of those measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measure and other information about these non GAAP metrics are described in our earnings press release from yesterday, which can be found on our website at www.blackstoneminerals.com. Joining me on the call from the company are Tom Carter, Chairman and CEO Evan Kiefer, Interim Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer Carrie Clark, Senior Vice President, Land and Commercial Garrett Grimion, Vice President of Engineering and Geology and Thad Montgomery, Vice President, Land. Speaker 100:01:58I'll now turn the call over to Tom. Speaker 200:02:02Thank you, Mark. Good morning to everyone on the call and Thank you for joining us today to discuss our Q2 of 'twenty three. We posted a solid quarter with adjusted EBITDA of 109,000,000 For the Q2, in line with the Q1 results, this is the 5th consecutive quarter where Blackstone has generated over $100,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA. Despite the pullback in natural gas prices and production, our hedge portfolio performed as it was intended to help insulate our cash flow From significant price movements, we generated total production volumes for the quarter of 36 2,000 BOE per day, a decrease of 8% from the 1st quarter volumes. Royalty volumes decreased 9% from last quarter to 33 point 6,000 BOE per day, but 11% above the Q2 of 'twenty two. Speaker 200:02:57Primary driver was reduced gas Volumes in Louisiana Haynesville and we saw the natural decline as we saw the natural decline of several high interest, Initial production rate wells that came online in the second half of twenty twenty two. Oil volumes moved up in the quarter as well due to new Activity in the pocket. Aethon continues to ramp up production in the Shelby Trough and held the 5 rigs on location from the Q1 into the 2nd quarter and is expected to meet the minimum pace of 27 wells per year by the end of the year in Angelina and San Agustin Counties. Today, 22 wells have been turned to sales in the Shelby Trough under our development agreement with Aethon. At 27, are in various stages of drilling or completing that we expect to benefit our production in the second half of the year. Speaker 200:03:52In addition, 26 new generation multistage completion wells have been turned to sales in our concentrated acreage position in the East Texas Austin We have reached an agreement with an existing operator in the field to drill 10 wells over the next 2 years, and it's exciting to see continued momentum As the U. S. Experienced an 11% decrease in rig activity in the 2nd quarter, we only saw an 8% decrease in rigs Operating on our acreage in that quarter, primarily in the Permian, with 73 rigs currently running as of June 30. As of yesterday, the rig count was back to 83, an increase driven mainly from the Permian that offset the decreases And as seen in the Q2, this highlights the normal ebb and flow of rig movements seen on our acreage And the importance of working with our operators like Aethon for long term development agreements that will help to maintain consistent Drilling activity on our high interest acreage. Last week, we announced our distribution for the Q2 of $0.475 Per unit, flat to our Q1 distribution. Speaker 200:05:12We have over $80,000,000 in cash prior to the payment of the distribution And a new high watermark for Blackstone since going public. We continue to prioritize returning that cash flow to our investors. With that, I'll turn it over to Evan. Speaker 300:05:31Thank you, Tom, and good morning to everyone. So as Tom mentioned, our royalty volumes for the Q2 totaled 33,600 BOE per day, which was down 9% relative to the Q1. And total production for the quarter was 36,200 BOE per day. Oil prices for the 2nd quarter averaged $73 a barrel and our realized prices before hedges came in at 99% of WTI prices. Gas prices at the Henry Hub averaged $2.10 per MMBtu, and our realized prices for the quarter before Edges was at 135 percent of that amount. Speaker 300:06:12The increased gas realizations for the quarter were driven primarily by revenues on new wells with production in the 4th Q1 of 2022 average prices for gas was $7.17 per MMBtu, which represents a 70% decrease And natural gas prices over the last year. This continues to emphasize the importance of the hedge program we have in place to mitigate The short term volatility in commodity prices. In the second quarter, our hedges brought in $28,200,000 of realized hedge gains, And after hedges, realized prices for oil were over $76 per barrel $4.50 per MNBCU for gas. On a BOE basis, this represents an increase of over 7% compared to the Q1. And consistent with prior messaging, We have continued our systematic process of adding 2024 hedges throughout the year. Speaker 300:07:20Our current strike price for natural gas Approximately 70% of our hedged 2024 volumes will be by the end of the year. We generated adjusted EBITDA of $109,200,000 and distributable cash flow of $103,600,000 for the 2nd quarter. These are both consistent with the Q1 results. We continue to maintain a very strong balance sheet, and this is the 2nd consecutive quarter where we've had 0 debt And currently have over $80,000,000 of cash prior to the distribution later this month. So given the undrawn revolver and cash generated in the quarter, our Board of Directors has supported maintaining the existing distribution of $0.475 per unit, Which translates to 1.04x coverage for the quarter. Speaker 300:08:18Our original guidance for the year contemplated a slowdown in Louisiana Haynesville as we All prices pull back due to natural gas. In our earnings release yesterday, we maintained our original production guidance of 37,000 To 39,000 BOE per day for the full year. We do expect a slightly gassier production mix for the year compared to the original guidance And continue seeing growing volumes in the Shelby Trough as Aethon ramps up production that's consistent with our development agreement. Permits on our acreage over the last three quarters has remained consistent and the rig count rebound in July that Tom mentioned all helps to offset some of the headwinds of lower natural gas prices seen this year. We continue to be encouraged by activity on our acreage and we expect to see a modest improvement Operator00:09:38Our first question comes from Tim Rezvan with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:09:44Good morning, folks. Thank you for taking my question. I guess I want to follow-up on your comments, Evan. You talked about the guidance in place, but it's getting a little gassier. I guess you guided to a little gassier SKU. Speaker 400:09:58Can you walk through what that was? Is it a little more Haynesville, a little less Austin Chalk than what you thought or just sort of the Kind of the trajectories of those 2 assets as you look to the end of the year? Speaker 300:10:12Yes. Good morning, And thank you for the question. So this is Evan and I'll take a first stab at that. And so yes, we've seen several things going on this year that just shifted Focus towards the gas here mix. 1, we did have a little bit of a pushback in the initial estimates on some wells in the Austin Shocks. Speaker 300:10:30We also saw a little bit of a shift from the Permian coming in a little lower than we originally forecasted at the beginning of the year, but also Some increased benefit from the Haynesville side that has come in a little bit above estimates for the first half of the year. So really kind of the combination of those several things is what's driving the slightly increased GAAP year mix for the year compared to what we were looking at the beginning. Speaker 200:10:57Evan, can I chime in on that just a little bit? With respect to the Austin Chalk, That play is pretty variable in BOE, liquids volume per 1,000 or 1,000,000 cubic feet of gas and it ranges from anywhere from 35 to 250 barrels per million. And a lot of the drilling that's been being done has been in some of the deeper areas that are more gassy, and we Are working hard to see some of the core areas with higher liquids get drilled, which really in the highest area That really hadn't even been developed yet. So that's we may see more liquid volumes coming out of that in the next year. Speaker 400:11:51Okay. I appreciate that context. And then I wanted to ask on the distribution, obviously, with the balance sheet where it is, you can afford Hi, payout. Is there a sense that you want to keep some sort of baseline, that 47.5 number has been intact for 3 straight quarters. You've been at 96% payout for 2 straight quarters. Speaker 400:12:13Obviously, gas market looks a little better. Do you feel like there's a need to deliver a consistent quarterly distribution or kind of what is the Board thinking about With that same number for 3 straight quarters? Speaker 300:12:29Yes, Tim, this is Evan. I'll start answering that. And One being the first and second quarter did come in fairly close with each other and almost I think $500,000 on a DCF basis. And so one, we saw the coverage and felt comfortable with where the balance sheet was Today to maintain that higher payout ratio. And as you mentioned, even going through kind of the remainder of the year, just looking at natural gas, where 3rd quarter, we're up to on the strip today, call it $2.50 which is really just under a 20% increase from what we saw in the Q1. Speaker 300:13:06So we do like maintaining that distribution as best we can. I think right now there's some momentum at least Pricing that does help that through the Q3 and even above that into the Q4 with gas prices being closer to $3 And so yes, we like the ability to maintain that. I think with the balance sheet strength and the Speaker 400:13:36And then if I could sneak one more in. I'm going to repeat a question from last quarter. Circling back on the preferreds, 4Q is now less than 2 months away. I was curious if there's any update on what management of the Board is thinking with those preferreds and the rate going to kind of a variable rate. So thanks for any color you can provide. Speaker 200:14:02Evan, you want to go ahead on that one? Speaker 300:14:05Yes. Thanks, Tim. Yes, it's a great question. It's definitely something we've been looking at internally. And so, Yes, that rate does reset in November of this year going to 10 year treasury plus 5.50 basis points. Speaker 300:14:21And so We're looking at rates today that's a little bit north of 9% relative to the 7%. And so our view really hasn't changed too much from the last quarter. And so it is something that we're looking at and they've been a fantastic partner over the years and maintaining that We put the preferred in place with the Noble acquisition. And so, yes, maybe there's something we can do there, but it's Not really any material change from where we're looking at that from the last quarter. Speaker 400:14:57Okay. Fair enough. Thanks. Speaker 500:15:17For my first question, I wanted to focus on your 2023 guidance. Assuming the midpoint of guidance, the implied trajectory for the balance of 23 is about 1,000 barrels up on oil and about 6,000,000 cubic feet down on sorry, up on gas as well. Focusing on oil specifically, what do you see as the primary driver of that oil growth in light of the lighter lower Speaker 300:15:50And so Couple of things that we're looking at. 1, we have had some high interest activity on our acreage in the Bakken, which has really helped out with this 2nd quarter relative to the first, where those wells will continue to produce off into the next couple of quarters. We do have some line of sight of wells that have come online that we expect to see or will come online soon In the Permian, so we do see a little bit of a move up on the gas side going through the second half of the year, Really kind of focused on the Permian and then some benefit from the Bakken as well. Speaker 500:16:31Terrific. And as my follow-up, with respect to your gas price realizations, you guys are Considerably better than industry for Q2. Wanted to ask if you could speak to some of the drivers there and your expectations for Q3 realizations as we stand here today? Speaker 300:16:49Sure, Derek. And so yes, we came in at 135% of Benchmark for the Q2 and really what drove that was volumes and revenues that we recognized In the quarter that came from production in the Q4 of last year, there wasn't any particular well. There was actually a handful of them that came in that we booked. And so As you're aware, as a mineral company, there is an inherent delay from that initial production to when we receive And so it's just the natural filling in of some of those wells that really drove some of the higher prices, especially on the gas Speaker 200:17:57Okay. If we don't have any Operator00:18:02Pardon the interruption. We have one more question from Trafard Lamar with Raymond James, please go ahead. Speaker 100:18:08Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. First, I was just wondering if you all could provide any additional Color on the long road agreement, possibly development start date or any lease details or anything you all need to know in the Speaker 600:18:26Sure. Hey, this is Carrie Clark. I'm assuming that you saw the Press release, I don't think we have any more details to provide on the Long Road Arrangement right now, other than what was in the press release, we're excited about it. It's just a way for us as we are always doing to try to look at another option for Extracting value out of the assets that we manage and own and we're excited about it. I think it's a different concept than we've in this solar development as it currently stands today. Speaker 600:19:10So we're really hoping that There's something scalable that makes good sense for energy transition. It's certainly not at this point. Oil and gas is still very much our core competency and being an active royalty owner and the Hydrocarbon scheme is what we're good at, but we're always looking to the future again to just emerging technology and especially On Solar, in this case, we're really optimistic about what Long Road is might be able to do and what we can do together and We're using our unique position to help really Create the best possible scenario for successful projects and something that has, again, quite a bit of scale. So Not much more to add at this time, but we'll definitely speak to it in the future as things Speaker 100:20:18Okay. Yes. Thanks for that. And then second, kind of wanted to look at Angelina County here and On the Aethon agreement, I know they under the agreement, they're obligated to drill 15 wells a year on BSM acreage. But do they have any requirements on well completions a year or is that purely on their discretion? Speaker 300:20:41Yes, this is Evan. And so, yes, it's a great question and timely just given where prices are In Louisiana, it was really gas prices. And so yes, there is a provision in there to where they have to drill and complete the wells to get them online. Speaker 100:20:59Okay, perfect. Thanks guys. Speaker 300:21:04Thank you. Operator00:21:07It appears there are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the program back over to our presenters for any additional remarks. Speaker 200:21:16All right. 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There are 7 speakers on the call. Operator00:00:00Good day, everyone, and welcome to today's Blackstone Minerals 2Q Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Please note this call may be recorded. I will be standing by if you should need any assistance. Is now my pleasure to turn the conference over to Mark Moe, Director of Finance. Operator00:00:28Please go ahead. Speaker 100:00:30Thank you. Good morning to everyone. Thank you for joining us either by phone or online for Blackstone Minerals' 2nd quarter 2023 earnings conference call. Today's call is being recorded and will be available on our website along with Earnings release, which was issued last night. Before we start, I'd like to advise you that we will be making forward looking statements during this call About our plans, expectations and assumptions regarding our future performance. Speaker 100:00:56These statements involve risks that may cause our actual results to differ materially from the results expressed or implied in our forward looking statements. For a discussion of these risks, You should refer to the cautionary information about forward looking statements in our press release from yesterday and the Risk Factors section of our 2022 10 ks. We may refer to certain non GAAP financial measures that we believe are useful in evaluating our performance. Reconciliation of those measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measure and other information about these non GAAP metrics are described in our earnings press release from yesterday, which can be found on our website at www.blackstoneminerals.com. Joining me on the call from the company are Tom Carter, Chairman and CEO Evan Kiefer, Interim Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer Carrie Clark, Senior Vice President, Land and Commercial Garrett Grimion, Vice President of Engineering and Geology and Thad Montgomery, Vice President, Land. Speaker 100:01:58I'll now turn the call over to Tom. Speaker 200:02:02Thank you, Mark. Good morning to everyone on the call and Thank you for joining us today to discuss our Q2 of 'twenty three. We posted a solid quarter with adjusted EBITDA of 109,000,000 For the Q2, in line with the Q1 results, this is the 5th consecutive quarter where Blackstone has generated over $100,000,000 of adjusted EBITDA. Despite the pullback in natural gas prices and production, our hedge portfolio performed as it was intended to help insulate our cash flow From significant price movements, we generated total production volumes for the quarter of 36 2,000 BOE per day, a decrease of 8% from the 1st quarter volumes. Royalty volumes decreased 9% from last quarter to 33 point 6,000 BOE per day, but 11% above the Q2 of 'twenty two. Speaker 200:02:57Primary driver was reduced gas Volumes in Louisiana Haynesville and we saw the natural decline as we saw the natural decline of several high interest, Initial production rate wells that came online in the second half of twenty twenty two. Oil volumes moved up in the quarter as well due to new Activity in the pocket. Aethon continues to ramp up production in the Shelby Trough and held the 5 rigs on location from the Q1 into the 2nd quarter and is expected to meet the minimum pace of 27 wells per year by the end of the year in Angelina and San Agustin Counties. Today, 22 wells have been turned to sales in the Shelby Trough under our development agreement with Aethon. At 27, are in various stages of drilling or completing that we expect to benefit our production in the second half of the year. Speaker 200:03:52In addition, 26 new generation multistage completion wells have been turned to sales in our concentrated acreage position in the East Texas Austin We have reached an agreement with an existing operator in the field to drill 10 wells over the next 2 years, and it's exciting to see continued momentum As the U. S. Experienced an 11% decrease in rig activity in the 2nd quarter, we only saw an 8% decrease in rigs Operating on our acreage in that quarter, primarily in the Permian, with 73 rigs currently running as of June 30. As of yesterday, the rig count was back to 83, an increase driven mainly from the Permian that offset the decreases And as seen in the Q2, this highlights the normal ebb and flow of rig movements seen on our acreage And the importance of working with our operators like Aethon for long term development agreements that will help to maintain consistent Drilling activity on our high interest acreage. Last week, we announced our distribution for the Q2 of $0.475 Per unit, flat to our Q1 distribution. Speaker 200:05:12We have over $80,000,000 in cash prior to the payment of the distribution And a new high watermark for Blackstone since going public. We continue to prioritize returning that cash flow to our investors. With that, I'll turn it over to Evan. Speaker 300:05:31Thank you, Tom, and good morning to everyone. So as Tom mentioned, our royalty volumes for the Q2 totaled 33,600 BOE per day, which was down 9% relative to the Q1. And total production for the quarter was 36,200 BOE per day. Oil prices for the 2nd quarter averaged $73 a barrel and our realized prices before hedges came in at 99% of WTI prices. Gas prices at the Henry Hub averaged $2.10 per MMBtu, and our realized prices for the quarter before Edges was at 135 percent of that amount. Speaker 300:06:12The increased gas realizations for the quarter were driven primarily by revenues on new wells with production in the 4th Q1 of 2022 average prices for gas was $7.17 per MMBtu, which represents a 70% decrease And natural gas prices over the last year. This continues to emphasize the importance of the hedge program we have in place to mitigate The short term volatility in commodity prices. In the second quarter, our hedges brought in $28,200,000 of realized hedge gains, And after hedges, realized prices for oil were over $76 per barrel $4.50 per MNBCU for gas. On a BOE basis, this represents an increase of over 7% compared to the Q1. And consistent with prior messaging, We have continued our systematic process of adding 2024 hedges throughout the year. Speaker 300:07:20Our current strike price for natural gas Approximately 70% of our hedged 2024 volumes will be by the end of the year. We generated adjusted EBITDA of $109,200,000 and distributable cash flow of $103,600,000 for the 2nd quarter. These are both consistent with the Q1 results. We continue to maintain a very strong balance sheet, and this is the 2nd consecutive quarter where we've had 0 debt And currently have over $80,000,000 of cash prior to the distribution later this month. So given the undrawn revolver and cash generated in the quarter, our Board of Directors has supported maintaining the existing distribution of $0.475 per unit, Which translates to 1.04x coverage for the quarter. Speaker 300:08:18Our original guidance for the year contemplated a slowdown in Louisiana Haynesville as we All prices pull back due to natural gas. In our earnings release yesterday, we maintained our original production guidance of 37,000 To 39,000 BOE per day for the full year. We do expect a slightly gassier production mix for the year compared to the original guidance And continue seeing growing volumes in the Shelby Trough as Aethon ramps up production that's consistent with our development agreement. Permits on our acreage over the last three quarters has remained consistent and the rig count rebound in July that Tom mentioned all helps to offset some of the headwinds of lower natural gas prices seen this year. We continue to be encouraged by activity on our acreage and we expect to see a modest improvement Operator00:09:38Our first question comes from Tim Rezvan with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Speaker 400:09:44Good morning, folks. Thank you for taking my question. I guess I want to follow-up on your comments, Evan. You talked about the guidance in place, but it's getting a little gassier. I guess you guided to a little gassier SKU. Speaker 400:09:58Can you walk through what that was? Is it a little more Haynesville, a little less Austin Chalk than what you thought or just sort of the Kind of the trajectories of those 2 assets as you look to the end of the year? Speaker 300:10:12Yes. Good morning, And thank you for the question. So this is Evan and I'll take a first stab at that. And so yes, we've seen several things going on this year that just shifted Focus towards the gas here mix. 1, we did have a little bit of a pushback in the initial estimates on some wells in the Austin Shocks. Speaker 300:10:30We also saw a little bit of a shift from the Permian coming in a little lower than we originally forecasted at the beginning of the year, but also Some increased benefit from the Haynesville side that has come in a little bit above estimates for the first half of the year. So really kind of the combination of those several things is what's driving the slightly increased GAAP year mix for the year compared to what we were looking at the beginning. Speaker 200:10:57Evan, can I chime in on that just a little bit? With respect to the Austin Chalk, That play is pretty variable in BOE, liquids volume per 1,000 or 1,000,000 cubic feet of gas and it ranges from anywhere from 35 to 250 barrels per million. And a lot of the drilling that's been being done has been in some of the deeper areas that are more gassy, and we Are working hard to see some of the core areas with higher liquids get drilled, which really in the highest area That really hadn't even been developed yet. So that's we may see more liquid volumes coming out of that in the next year. Speaker 400:11:51Okay. I appreciate that context. And then I wanted to ask on the distribution, obviously, with the balance sheet where it is, you can afford Hi, payout. Is there a sense that you want to keep some sort of baseline, that 47.5 number has been intact for 3 straight quarters. You've been at 96% payout for 2 straight quarters. Speaker 400:12:13Obviously, gas market looks a little better. Do you feel like there's a need to deliver a consistent quarterly distribution or kind of what is the Board thinking about With that same number for 3 straight quarters? Speaker 300:12:29Yes, Tim, this is Evan. I'll start answering that. And One being the first and second quarter did come in fairly close with each other and almost I think $500,000 on a DCF basis. And so one, we saw the coverage and felt comfortable with where the balance sheet was Today to maintain that higher payout ratio. And as you mentioned, even going through kind of the remainder of the year, just looking at natural gas, where 3rd quarter, we're up to on the strip today, call it $2.50 which is really just under a 20% increase from what we saw in the Q1. Speaker 300:13:06So we do like maintaining that distribution as best we can. I think right now there's some momentum at least Pricing that does help that through the Q3 and even above that into the Q4 with gas prices being closer to $3 And so yes, we like the ability to maintain that. I think with the balance sheet strength and the Speaker 400:13:36And then if I could sneak one more in. I'm going to repeat a question from last quarter. Circling back on the preferreds, 4Q is now less than 2 months away. I was curious if there's any update on what management of the Board is thinking with those preferreds and the rate going to kind of a variable rate. So thanks for any color you can provide. Speaker 200:14:02Evan, you want to go ahead on that one? Speaker 300:14:05Yes. Thanks, Tim. Yes, it's a great question. It's definitely something we've been looking at internally. And so, Yes, that rate does reset in November of this year going to 10 year treasury plus 5.50 basis points. Speaker 300:14:21And so We're looking at rates today that's a little bit north of 9% relative to the 7%. And so our view really hasn't changed too much from the last quarter. And so it is something that we're looking at and they've been a fantastic partner over the years and maintaining that We put the preferred in place with the Noble acquisition. And so, yes, maybe there's something we can do there, but it's Not really any material change from where we're looking at that from the last quarter. Speaker 400:14:57Okay. Fair enough. Thanks. Speaker 500:15:17For my first question, I wanted to focus on your 2023 guidance. Assuming the midpoint of guidance, the implied trajectory for the balance of 23 is about 1,000 barrels up on oil and about 6,000,000 cubic feet down on sorry, up on gas as well. Focusing on oil specifically, what do you see as the primary driver of that oil growth in light of the lighter lower Speaker 300:15:50And so Couple of things that we're looking at. 1, we have had some high interest activity on our acreage in the Bakken, which has really helped out with this 2nd quarter relative to the first, where those wells will continue to produce off into the next couple of quarters. We do have some line of sight of wells that have come online that we expect to see or will come online soon In the Permian, so we do see a little bit of a move up on the gas side going through the second half of the year, Really kind of focused on the Permian and then some benefit from the Bakken as well. Speaker 500:16:31Terrific. And as my follow-up, with respect to your gas price realizations, you guys are Considerably better than industry for Q2. Wanted to ask if you could speak to some of the drivers there and your expectations for Q3 realizations as we stand here today? Speaker 300:16:49Sure, Derek. And so yes, we came in at 135% of Benchmark for the Q2 and really what drove that was volumes and revenues that we recognized In the quarter that came from production in the Q4 of last year, there wasn't any particular well. There was actually a handful of them that came in that we booked. And so As you're aware, as a mineral company, there is an inherent delay from that initial production to when we receive And so it's just the natural filling in of some of those wells that really drove some of the higher prices, especially on the gas Speaker 200:17:57Okay. If we don't have any Operator00:18:02Pardon the interruption. We have one more question from Trafard Lamar with Raymond James, please go ahead. Speaker 100:18:08Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. First, I was just wondering if you all could provide any additional Color on the long road agreement, possibly development start date or any lease details or anything you all need to know in the Speaker 600:18:26Sure. Hey, this is Carrie Clark. I'm assuming that you saw the Press release, I don't think we have any more details to provide on the Long Road Arrangement right now, other than what was in the press release, we're excited about it. It's just a way for us as we are always doing to try to look at another option for Extracting value out of the assets that we manage and own and we're excited about it. I think it's a different concept than we've in this solar development as it currently stands today. Speaker 600:19:10So we're really hoping that There's something scalable that makes good sense for energy transition. It's certainly not at this point. Oil and gas is still very much our core competency and being an active royalty owner and the Hydrocarbon scheme is what we're good at, but we're always looking to the future again to just emerging technology and especially On Solar, in this case, we're really optimistic about what Long Road is might be able to do and what we can do together and We're using our unique position to help really Create the best possible scenario for successful projects and something that has, again, quite a bit of scale. So Not much more to add at this time, but we'll definitely speak to it in the future as things Speaker 100:20:18Okay. Yes. Thanks for that. And then second, kind of wanted to look at Angelina County here and On the Aethon agreement, I know they under the agreement, they're obligated to drill 15 wells a year on BSM acreage. But do they have any requirements on well completions a year or is that purely on their discretion? Speaker 300:20:41Yes, this is Evan. And so, yes, it's a great question and timely just given where prices are In Louisiana, it was really gas prices. And so yes, there is a provision in there to where they have to drill and complete the wells to get them online. Speaker 100:20:59Okay, perfect. Thanks guys. Speaker 300:21:04Thank you. Operator00:21:07It appears there are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the program back over to our presenters for any additional remarks. Speaker 200:21:16All right. Well, thank you all very much for joining the call today and we look forward to speaking with you next quarter.Read morePowered by