Stanley Black & Decker Q2 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

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August 1, 2023

There are 11 speakers on the call.

Operator

Welcome to the Second Quarter 2023 Stanley Black and Decker Earnings Conference Call. My name is Shannon, and I will be your operator for today's call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session. Please note that this conference is being recorded.

Operator

I will now turn the call over to the Vice President of Investor Relations, Dennis Lang. Mr. Lang, you may begin.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Shannon. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us for Stanley Black and Decker's 2023 Second Quarter Webcast. On the webcast, in addition to myself, is Don Allen, President and CEO Pat Hallinan, EVP and CFO And joining us for Q and A this morning is Chris Nelson, COO, EVP and President of Tools and Outdoor. Our earnings release, which was issued earlier this morning, and a supplemental presentation, which we will refer to, are available on the IR section of our website. A replay of this morning's webcast will also be available beginning at 11 am today.

Speaker 1

This morning, Don and Pat will review our Q2 results And various other matters, followed by a Q and A session. Consistent with prior webcasts, we are going to be sticking with just one question per caller. And as we normally do, we will be making some forward looking statements during the call based on our current views. Such statements are based on assumptions of future events that may not prove to be accurate, As such, they involve risk and uncertainty. It's therefore possible that the actual results may materially differ from any forward looking statements that we may make today.

Speaker 1

We direct you to our cautionary statements in the 8 ks that we filed with our press release and in our most recent 'thirty four Act filing. I'll now turn the call over to our President and CEO, Don Allen.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Dennis, and good morning, everyone. Stanley Black and Decker's 2nd quarter performance represented strong execution across the organization, driving significant progress Before I get into the results, I'm extremely pleased to welcome Chris Nelson to our leadership team, And we have him joining us on the call for Q and A today. Chris started in June as our Chief Operating Officer and President of our Tools and Outdoor Business. Chris is an experienced global business leader with strong industry knowledge and a successful track record of implementing growth strategies, which have delivered customer centric innovation and profitable market share expansion. I am excited to see Chris assume leadership of the Tools and Outdoor business.

Speaker 2

He is bringing new energy and perspective, which will further position us for strong execution and faster profitable growth. Welcome, Chris. With this critical appointment, Stanley Black and Decker's senior leadership team is now in place. Together, we will bring our shared vision to life, optimizing the company around our core businesses and strong portfolio of global brands as we execute our strategy to generate sustainable growth and margin expansion. As you will hear from Pat in a few moments, Our cost and supply chain optimization program is ahead of plan through the 1st 6 months of 2023 and building momentum.

Speaker 2

The compelling long term growth opportunities in the markets we serve, combined with the progress we've made transforming our business, including our improved cost position, Gives us the confidence to pursue further growth investments in the second half of this year. Deploying these growth investments Part of our $300,000,000 to $500,000,000 target over the next 3 years is intended to accelerate market share gains. As we drive these investment priorities, we are also maintaining our commitment to return value to our shareholders. And to that end, Our Board of Directors approved a modest increase to our quarterly cash dividend amounting to $0.81 per share. Shifting now to our Q2 performance.

Speaker 2

We demonstrated that we are continuing to advance our transformation journey and ahead of the planned program. Specifically, we reduced inventory by nearly $400,000,000 in Q2, which brings our aggregate program to date reduction to 1,400,000,000 Since mid-twenty 22. Our global cost reduction program delivered $230,000,000 of pre tax run rate savings in the quarter, On track for the expected $1,000,000,000 of annualized savings by the end of this year. Adjusted gross margin for the quarter was 23.6%, Sequential improvement of 50 basis points, our 2nd consecutive quarter of gross margin expansion. And all of these actions translated into $200,000,000 of free cash flow in Q2.

Speaker 2

2nd quarter revenue was $4,200,000,000 Which was down versus the prior year due to lower consumer outdoor and DIY volume as rising interest rates have tempered Consumer spending, in addition to the negative year over year impact of the oil and gas divestiture completed last year. That said, demand remains solid for the professional side of the market, which represents roughly 70% of our tools business. As it relates to the end markets, the U. S. Retail point of sale for our tools and outdoor products remained in a growth position this quarter versus 2019 levels, bolstered by price and healthy pro demand.

Speaker 2

Both tools and outdoor POS through the 1st 4 weeks of July is growing versus prior year, a potentially positive signal for the back half of twenty twenty three. We are also encouraged by a stabilizing residential construction market, despite the rising interest rate cycle. U. S. Home starts are running at a pace of 1,400,000 units in June, a strong signal that demand for housing remains sound.

Speaker 2

This is complemented by U. S. Permits to build single family homes rising to a 1 year high and positive trends in housing completions. Additionally, contractor backlog in the U. S.

Speaker 2

Remains healthy for repair and remodel activity. The European markets are experiencing similar trends With softer DIY markets balanced with a healthier level of construction activity and professionals with backlogs through the end of this year. And then finally, our channel partners continue to be focused on optimizing inventory levels, and we expect that to be a modest headwind throughout 2023. Across our industrial end markets, we are seeing continued strength in global automotive and aerospace. So while the end markets across Stanley Black and Decker remain relatively stable with pockets of strength, we are monitoring the demand environment Operationally, we continue to be focused on the prioritization of inventory reduction and cash generation.

Speaker 2

With 2Q adjusted diluted EPS coming in at a loss of $0.11 which was better than our plan, Due to the solid progress we have made on our key financial goals in the first half, we are narrowing our 2023 full year adjusted diluted EPS guidance to a range of $0.70 up to $1.30 and narrowing our free cash flow range to $600,000,000 to $900,000,000 Pat will provide more color on this later in our presentation. Now let me walk through the details of our business segment performance. Beginning with Tools and Outdoor, Total revenue was $3,500,000,000 down 5% organically versus prior year, as favorable price realization was more than offset by volume decline. We continue to make progress on the Tools and Outdoor adjusted operating margin, which was 4.5%, up 150 basis points sequentially, driven by benefits from volume leverage and cost control. Versus prior year, our operating margin rate was down as price realization was more than offset By selling through high cost inventory, planned production curtailment costs and lower volume.

Speaker 2

I would now like to provide some more detail on our various tools and outdoor geographies. North America was down mid single digits organically, Weighted by lower consumer outdoor and DIY tool demand as well as modest customer destocking. Organic revenues were stronger sequentially as we lap tougher comparables and saw benefits from better order fill rates with our customers while leveraging strength and professional demand. Our European revenue was down 1% organically With bright spots in the U. K.

Speaker 2

And Southern regions as they both posted high single digit organic growth. The Emerging Markets performance was down 3% organically. However, when you exclude the impact from our Russian business exit, The remaining countries had high single digit organic growth. This was led by strong demand in Brazil, particularly within the professional channels. Moving to our strategic business unit performance.

Speaker 2

We experienced an outdoor organic revenue decline of 12%. As widely reported by many in this industry, The challenging start to the outdoor season persisted for the entire season, and we did experience notable softness in POS And replenishment in the quarter, especially surrounding higher price point retail products. The hand tools business was flat organically versus prior year And overcame softer DIY volume with international growth and certain category strength. Notably, DEWALT storage solution growth, including the expanded soft line and tough system 2.0 portfolio offerings introduced earlier this year. Power Tools declined 4% organically as softer consumer market demand persisted And customers remain cautious with inventory levels.

Speaker 2

This result was notably better than the Q1 as we saw continued Pro momentum, Coupled with positive impacts from a healthier supply chain, leading to better service levels and increased promotional opportunities, particularly with DeWalt and Craftsman. Now shifting to our Industrial business, which had 3% organic growth in the quarter. The total segment revenue declined 5% versus 2Q 2022 as price realization was more than offset by last year's oil and gas divestiture and currency. We improved adjusted operating margin by 3 70 basis points versus prior year, Including continued price realization and cost actions to deliver adjusted operating margin of 13%. This represents strong execution and a great financial outcome this quarter for our Industrial team.

Speaker 2

Within the segment, Engineered Fastening Revenues were up 8%, including Aerospace growth of 31% and auto growth of 15% as we captured cyclical rebound in these markets along with share gains. This favorable performance was partially offset by Industrial Fastening In Attachment Tools, organic revenue declined primarily as a result of customers destocking to optimize their inventory levels. While long term fundamentals for growth remain solid, we believe temporary channel inventory reductions will continue To impact these industrial businesses in the second half of the year as well. In summary, the team continues to navigate market conditions with several pockets of strength And a few areas of pressure, while we continue to improve our margins. I want to thank the entire Stanley Black and Decker organization for your focus on our key priorities.

Speaker 2

The progress to date is very encouraging and energizing as we take the next several steps of our business transformational journey. Turning to the next slide. I would like to underscore the importance of the strategy that we launched a year ago to transform Stanley Black and Decker To accelerate market share gains and drive consistent organic growth, our teams around the world are gaining traction and executing on our primary areas of focus. 1, streamlining and simplifying the organization as well as shifting resources 2, accelerating the operations and supply chain transformation to return adjusted gross margins to historical 35% plus levels, While improving fill rates to better match inventory with customer demand 3, prioritizing cash flow generation and inventory optimization And 4, continuing to advance innovation, electrification and global market penetration to achieve organic growth of 2 to 3 times the market. Our business transformation is our path to continuing to enhance our customer and end user experiences, while delivering on our financial commitments And enabling the pursuit of strategic growth investments behind our iconic brands, innovation engine, electrification and commercial activation.

Speaker 2

Key investments in innovation coupled with market activation are being accelerated to maximize the impact of our product launches with our global customers and end users. For example, our fully integrated Craftsman campaign was built to drive traffic to our key retail partners And sent repeat purchases and engage new users. To date, we've shown strong initial results breaking through the industry clutter. Since the campaign launched in the Q2, we've driven both online and offline traffic to retail and demonstrated improved tools point of sale run rate Versus the prior year to support brand market share growth. We're excited to see continued positive momentum from this exciting Craftsman brand campaign.

Speaker 2

We are also leveraging the strength of our DEWALT brand with a pro inspired product roadmap to expand core innovation as we release enhanced product offerings to improve the end user experience. We recently launched 2 new DeWalt's sealed head ratchets. The 20 volt MAX XR as well as the extreme 12 volt MAX option delivering power, versatility and durability. Engineered with a professional in mind, particularly automotive, electrical and mechanical trades people, The innovative design meets the needs of pros across industries on any job site. The new DEWALT 20 Volt MaxxR Brushless Cordless rivet tools were also introduced this quarter, designed for precision fastening and prefabrication, assembly, HVAC, roofing And automotive applications.

Speaker 2

These tools have features such as onboard nose piece storage And a mandrel collector to catch rivets after each shot. Lastly, we introduced a new DEWALT 25 Foot LED Tape Measure, A great example of core innovation within our Tufts series product line. Our engineering team continues to advance our innovation roadmap With best in class products and solutions for our end users as we electrify and enhance safety on the job site, as well as push the bounds of power and performance across our categories. Let me now turn the call over to Pat to share the latest progress updates on our transformation, financial insights on the quarter and our latest outlook.

Speaker 3

Thank you and good morning everyone. As Don mentioned, we made meaningful progress on our transformation in the quarter and first half of the year. Our cost reduction program is on track to deliver $1,000,000,000 of pretax run rate savings in 2023 And is modestly ahead of plan year to date. Our simplification and prioritization efforts coupled with our supply chain transformation Delivered $230,000,000 of run rate savings in the 2nd quarter, totaling $460,000,000 year to date And $660,000,000 since program inception. Approximately half of our 2023 savings We're manufacturing cost related, and as such, we'll begin to see these benefits turn through inventory off the balance sheet And on to the P and L starting in the second half and continuing to build in 2024.

Speaker 3

Our organization is bringing our vision for the supply chain of the future to life with persistent sustainable progress. Strategic sourcing is a major contributor of 2023 savings and is ahead of plan. We have the capabilities in place To ensure changes are executed successfully, and we are currently activating additional RFPs to secure further savings, The momentum behind the SPD operating model along with lean manufacturing practices Is yielding sustainable productivity efficiencies, such as alleviating manufacturing bottlenecks, as well as reducing process waste And production downtime. This will become an important source of savings in the coming months and quarters. Our manufacturing and logistics network optimization remains on track as we work to improve the efficiency and utilization of the asset base.

Speaker 3

Finally, as it relates to our complexity reduction, the SKU rationalization initiative Is progressing in an orderly fashion. At this stage, we have approved the reduction of approximately 70,000 SKUs. We are working with our customers to assist with their transition to replacement products over the coming quarters. We have now decommissioned over 20,000 SKUs. We believe that as we exit the remaining 50,000 offerings, we will have suitable substitutes that will mitigate effectively All of the potential revenue risk, which we size at less than $50,000,000 annually, we believe managing this in a methodical way Creates value via complexity reduction without undue disruption to our customers or loss of share.

Speaker 3

We are pleased with the progress of our global cost reduction program and are confident in our ability to capture $1,000,000,000 of run rate savings by the end of 2023 $2,000,000,000 of run rate savings by the end of 2025. Turning to our inventory reduction progress and gross margin trajectory. In the Q2, we reduced inventory By $375,000,000 bringing our year to date progress to $575,000,000 Over the last 12 months, We've achieved approximately $1,400,000,000 in inventory reduction through the improved supply chain conditions and planned production curtailments Instituted during the back half of twenty twenty two. To contextualize our first half performance, the $575,000,000 reduction compares favorably to the average pre pandemic first half inventory build of approximately $400,000,000 We are expecting our full year 2023 inventory reduction to be between $700,000,000 $900,000,000 Which represents a DSI that is about 155 days. We remain committed to ongoing inventory productivity improvement To generate cash flow that will be used to strengthen our balance sheet, while supporting our long standing commitment to return value to shareholders through cash dividends.

Speaker 3

Turning to gross margin. The pace of improvement has been modestly ahead of expectations as transformation execution and freight deflation are favorable to plan. 2nd quarter adjusted gross margin was 23.6%, up 50 basis sequentially versus the Q1 of 2023. The impact from liquidating high cost inventory and the production curtailments Represented approximately 400 basis points to 500 basis points of margin headwinds in the 2nd quarter. Moving forward, We expect continued sequential improvement in adjusted gross margin driven by a lower impact from turning high cost inventory And an increased benefit as our cost transformation improves the P and L.

Speaker 3

Assuming the demand levels and other assumptions that underpin our guidance, We expect adjusted gross margin to be 27% to 29% in the second half, a strong improvement versus recent quarters. While this is a significant step up from the front half performance, we have line of sight into the cost savings already generated and on the balance sheet. That corresponds to lower cost of sales and margin improvement in the coming quarters. To conclude, we're starting to reap the benefits From the inventory reductions and supply chain transformation and we remain focused on delivering our targeted adjusted gross margin of 35 plus percent by 2025. Now turning to 2023 guidance.

Speaker 3

Our expected GAAP earnings per share range has been narrowed The negative $1.25 to negative $0.50 from negative $1.65 to positive $0.60 Inclusive of one time charges, primarily from the global supply chain transformation and outdoor integration, the current Pre tax charges estimate was narrowed to $300,000,000 to $325,000,000 With approximately 25% of these expenses being non cash, the 2023 quarterly profile GAAP taxes and GAAP earnings per share is significantly impacted by the pre tax loss in the first half And the interim tax impact of certain benefits factored into our annual effective tax rate assumption. However, As we expect to generate pretax income in the second half, this interim tax benefit will reverse And we expect our full year tax rate to be relatively consistent with prior guidance. In parallel, we are also narrowing our full year adjusted earnings share guidance range to $0.70 to $1.30 from a previous guidance range of $0 to $2 We are keeping the $1 Midpoint consistent with the prior guidance framework. Versus our previous expectation, we have assumed modestly lower organic growth Offset by better gross margin. At the midpoint, this results in an improved full year adjusted operating profit and margin.

Speaker 3

This stronger operating performance is offset by an approximate $0.25 impact from higher interest and other expenses below the line, of which 40% to 50% is interest rate driven. We are narrowing our full year free cash flow range To $600,000,000 to $900,000,000 from $500,000,000 to $1,000,000,000 We expect second half cash flow to be supported by positive Net income, a further reduction in inventory and the normal Tools and Outdoor seasonal benefit from working capital. We are planning for total company organic growth to be down mid single digits for the year. In terms of the business segment outlook, Tools and Outdoor total organic revenue is expected to be down mid to high single digits for the year. Incorporating the softer outlook in Outdoor As well as expectations for continued DIY softness and channel inventory conservatism.

Speaker 3

We are expecting to regain Slightly negative consistent with these activities. We continue to see the Pro Tools user holding strong And at this point, we believe the range of outcomes for volume covers some variability for the U. S. Consumer and DIY demand Balance with the potential for stronger professional demand in the back half. In Industrial, we expect flat to low single digit organic growth on a full year basis, Supported by cyclical rebounds in Aerospace and Auto, this is modestly lower than our prior outlook As we incorporate an assumption for continued customer destocking in attachment tools and industrial fastening, Production normalization and the pace of growth investments will both be flexed based on demand.

Speaker 3

We are planning for production to normalize in the 4th quarter, Recognizing the lower volume, we remain disciplined and flexible in our approach to reinvesting to drive organic growth. Our focus is to deliver on our financial expectations while utilizing gross margin improvements to fund growth investments. Our outlook assumes approximately $125,000,000 of annualized investment with a goal to ultimately deploy $300,000,000 to $500,000,000 over the next 3 years. Clearly, our willingness to invest Margins to be in the mid to high single digits as our cost efficiencies offset volume pressures. Turning to the important remaining elements of guidance.

Speaker 3

The expectation for the Q3 would be a sequential improvement in operating profit, primarily from the benefits of our cost reduction initiatives And a lesser impact from destocking. Adjusted EPS for the Q3 is planned to be approximately 80% Of the full year adjusted EPS amount and due to losses within the first half, the back half adjusted EPS Will be more than 100 percent of the full year total adjusted EPS. So in summary, we are exiting the first half With strong momentum across our cost savings and cash generation initiatives, with some of the more significant impacts From our inventory reductions now in the rearview mirror, we are focusing on driving the items within our control to deliver further margin improvement And to fund investment, we continue to manage the business with the long term in mind, and we believe we have the right strategy in place To successfully navigate our path forward as we remain focused on driving above market organic growth with margin expansion and enhanced shareholder returns. With that, I will now pass the call back over to Don.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Pat. We are pleased to report another quarter of meaningful progress related to our transformation journey. Successful execution against our plan Gives us the confidence to increase our focus on reinvestment toward faster growth as we fuel our team with more resources to unleash the power of our amazing brands, strengthen the innovation machine and stimulate demand with enhanced end user activation. We believe our actions to reshape, focus and streamline our organization as well as reinvest in our core businesses Will enable us to deliver significant shareholder value over the long term via robust organic growth and enhanced profitability. I am proud to be alongside the best people, the best brands and the most powerful innovation engine in our industry.

Speaker 2

As we continue to focus on what We can control to be successful. I am confident that we are recreating a significant market share gaining machine. With that, we are now ready for Q and A, Dennis.

Speaker 1

Great. Thanks, Don. Shannon, we can now start Q and A, please. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Please stand by while we compile the Q and A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Tim Wojs with Baird. Your line is now

Speaker 4

open. Hey, guys. Good morning.

Speaker 2

Good morning.

Speaker 4

At risk of being yelled at, I'm going to try to ask a 2 parter. So I guess the first question just as you're looking at gross margins kind of first half to second half, If Pat, maybe you could give us some color on the bridge in terms of how you go from kind of low 23s in the first half To that 27 to 29 in the back half, how much of that is production versus some of the cost savings that you're seeing there? And then I guess second, since we've got Chris on the call, maybe just hoping to get a little bit of his kind of early thoughts and observations as he's gotten into the business.

Speaker 5

I'll start, Tim, with gross margin. It's a meaningful step up, but it's an important part of our journey And we're confident in delivering it for the back half of this year. A big chunk of it is the roll off of high cost inventory. I'd say the bridge from roughly a 23, 24 up to 28 ish number It's about 100 points of production curtailment fading away slightly and the balance is a mix of both Cost savings generated by our transformation and anticipation of the high cost inventory of the past, Probably equal parts of each in that regard.

Speaker 6

This is Chris. Tim, thanks for the question. And I just Wanted to start by saying how honored I am to join Don and the entire Stanley Black and Decker leadership team to help bring the company's long term Strategic vision of accelerated organic growth to life. As you well know, Don and the team have made Meaningful progress on this ambitious plan and I'm just grateful for the opportunity to help drive the company's transformation forward. As I've come on board, as you might expect, it's been a lot of taking time to learn and listen.

Speaker 6

And I got to say, it's been Quite a whirlwind thus far in the 1st 6 ish weeks. Been 7 factories, spent At least today with every major business unit going through market trends, the products, the product roadmaps for the future, Been to all the key design centers in North America and had several key customer meetings. And through this process what I'd say is that The 3 real key observations and opportunities stand out. First is the long term commercial opportunities exist due to the impressive strength of Stanley Black and Decker's brands and products. Simply put, Our customers really, really like our products and our brands and want to grow with us and that's something that cannot be underestimated for the future.

Speaker 6

Secondly is that the innovation engine within STANLEY BLACK and DECKER is amazing and I do believe it is a differentiating capability. Our ability to start with work with the end user to understand their environment as well as the issues that They are trying to solve and then rapidly be able to turn that into the design and implementation of products and solutions To help our customers solve their problems and become more efficient is really going to be an important future catalyst for growth. And then 3rd is, as I've been out and spent time in the factories and in the operations, seeing the amount of traction That exists on the operations and supply chain transformation. There are obviously real benefits Through the P and L and Pat referenced those earlier. But as importantly, I can see the foundation that is putting Being put in place that will make this a sustainable and long term opportunity for the company.

Speaker 6

And it's also clear that the that there's ample Future Runway and that we're in the early innings of the transformation and that the future savings will be able to be reinvested back in the business To continue to fuel growth as well as margin expansion. So really the combination of these three key Observations and opportunities really it has me very excited as far as the opportunity for long term value creation within Stanley Black and Decker.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Julian Mitchell with Barclays. Your line is now open.

Speaker 7

Hi, good morning and welcome to Chris. Maybe just my question was Understood just now that bridge from first half to second half of this year, but just wanted to check on any color you could give on the bridge from This year as a whole into next. And I suppose if we look at your second half guidance for this year, it's about Including some sort of outdoor seasonality assumption, it's maybe $3.50 of annualized EPS Based off your second half guide at the midpoint, you had talked about a $5 ish EPS for next year previously. So just wondered sort of any updated thoughts on that EPS step up into 2024? And sort of related to that, it looks like your inventories will still be well above historical norms at the end of December, but you talk about Production normalization during Q4, so I just wanted to sort of square that away when thinking about next year.

Speaker 7

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Thank you for the questions. And I'll kick it off and then pass it over to Pat for a little more detail as far as Our perspective on next year, we have talked about in previous calls a $5 or a $4 to $5 Range for 20.24 for EPS. Given what we're seeing in the back half and what we're currently projecting for revenues, the improvement in the gross margins, We're making some investments in SG and A that will plant some seeds for future share gain activity. We do think we're positioning ourselves To be in that $4 to $5 for next year, depending on a couple of factors. Does the revenue maintain itself, or grow?

Speaker 2

Or do we see continued pressure due to economic reasons? And how much more investment do we want to do To really drive that share gain opportunity across the globe, those are questions that we'll figure out in the back half of the year. And when we provide guidance in early 24 will give more insight, but we think we've built a foundation that allows us to achieve that range I mentioned. I'll pass the inventory portion of the question over to Pat and let him give you a little more sense of where we think we are in the journey of inventory And where we go from here?

Speaker 5

Yes. Julian, I'll pick up where Don left off. I think from an operating performance and productivity range, We're targeting towards that EPS level. But as Don said, as we get to next year's guidance, we'll look at the macro And we'll look at our investment level for long term growth and I think that will decide our EPS for next year. In terms of gross margin this year and into next Dear, following on that opening question, we can really already see on our balance sheet and already in our savings rhythm, The gross margin levels that we're projecting for the back half of this year.

Speaker 5

So those rates of Gross margin delivery are for the most part on our balance sheet already for this year. And then your question around How do we step that into next year? Think of every one of the next few years going through the end of 2025 as 500 incremental $1,000,000 of COGS savings off of our revenue base, You're talking 200 to 300 basis points a calendar year of gross margin improvement. And so We continue to track on our long term cost transformation. And so we finished this year at 28 ish percent Gross margin in the back half of the year, you could kind of expect that 200 plus basis point level of gross margin improvement To be carried into next year and that's the kind of momentum you should be expecting the next couple of years.

Speaker 5

In terms of inventory, We're going to make significant inventory progress this year, but you're correct to point out that by the time we get to the end of this year, Our absolute inventory dollars at the end of this year will be in the $5,000,000,000 ish range, which is around 155 days ish range, which is higher than our long term history of inventory levels, Which have obviously changed since we acquired an outdoors business from the legacy Stanley Black and Decker levels, but still below 155. We'll continue to make progress and we'll talk about that more specifically when we give guidance for next year. But we will continue to make progress and be working towards a level that is below 150 across a multi or rather below 140 Across the multiyear time horizon, next year our progress will be balanced against some of our network changes. We are Bringing online some new DCs next year and a new DC footprint altogether. So while we'll make some progress next year, it will be balanced against some of the long term decisions we're making to improve service and cost in our DC footprint.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Nigel Coe with Wolfe Research. Your line is now open.

Speaker 8

Thanks. Good morning. I'll try and make this question a bit punchier. Thanks, Chris. And Chris, welcome.

Speaker 8

Good to hear. So the EPS, dollars 0.80 for 3 well, dollars 0.80 roughly for 3Q midpoint. And so I think it implies 4Q down Slightly. So just wondering how we should think about that gross margin cadence between 3Q and 4Q. I thought that maybe some of the cost benefits would benefit 4Q more than 3Q.

Speaker 8

So just maybe just run through that. And then the comment about pricing flat to slightly negative, is that for the whole corporation? Or is that just specifically for Tools and Outdoor segment?

Speaker 5

Yes, Nigel, I'd say All you're seeing in 3Q EPS to 4Q is really just a normal seasonal cadence, right? We Tend to ship in, in the Q3 a lot of the product that is sold through the holiday season. So it's just a normal Cadence that you would see from 1 quarter to the next from a gross margin perspective, they'll roughly be even across quarters if not the Q4 being slightly higher. So the margin journey will be on the right momentum track And all you're seeing in EPS dollars is seasonality. I think in terms of pricing, 85% of our business is tools and outdoor And all you're seeing in pricing is the fact that this year we're back to a normal seasonal promotional cadence, Especially around the Black Friday timeframe, without new kind of gross price increases offsetting that introduction of Reintroduction, I should say, of a normal promotional cadence.

Speaker 5

So it's just the dynamic of us reentering a normal promotional cadence that will Potentially take us below flat pricing, but it should be a real small marginal amount. That's all you're seeing with both of those dynamics.

Speaker 2

And just a reminder, recognizing that as we launch new products at new price points throughout the year, The impact of the higher price versus the previous product that it's replacing does not flow through that price line, but it does flow through your margins. So You don't necessarily see the full impact of pricing decisions and processes that we have across the company because of that.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Rehaut with JPMorgan. Your line is now open.

Speaker 9

Thanks. Good morning everyone and welcome to Chris. Wanted to Dial in a little bit more into the change in your organic growth outlook For Tools and Outdoor, I think you kind of said it was driven by several different factors, softer outlook in outdoor, DIY, a weakness channel inventory conservatism. So I was hoping if you could kind of bucket Those drivers in terms of what's driving the difference, if you can kind of tie it to The difference I guess is maybe 3% or 4% of a change. And also if the POS turning positive That was kind of part of your prior guidance, because you said it could be a potentially positive signal for the back half.

Speaker 9

If that continues, would that drive any upside to the guidance?

Speaker 5

Yes, Mike. We obviously had to think of a few moving parts as we outlined the back half of the year. And so I think Where I'd start is, our primary objective this year is to deliver margin improvement, working capital reduction and cash, Obviously, we want to keep competing in the marketplace. And the Q2 had many dynamics going I would say in the Q2, we saw consistently weak outdoor, especially for high price point items. And we saw DIY consumer be under a bit more pressure.

Speaker 5

And on the margin, both in Tools and Outdoors And in sub segments of our industrial business, channel conservatism on inventory. So all those things were dynamics that played out. We anticipated them in the Q2 and that's why when we Gave guidance at the end of the Q1. We softened up our revenue expectations on the Q2 and they played out About as we expected in the quarter, and we thought it best given the fact that those dynamics have kind of stabilized and stayed with us For the most part, to play those out in the back half of the year and that's the adjustment you saw. So almost all the adjustment in the back half of the year Was to anticipate a similar level of consumer price sensitivity with winter outdoor goods, Continued DIY consumer softness predominantly in North America And then channel destocking in our infrastructure business.

Speaker 5

And I'd say they've all been kind of equal drivers of us Taking a couple of $100,000,000 out of our back half sales forecast. But I'd say the good news is we feel like Right now, absent a new macro change, our demand environment has stabilized and that Demand environment has stabilized around a strong pro and really strong aero and automotive in our industrial business. I don't think there's any kind of new dynamic with the DIY consumer. Our intent is up for When student loan repayments start around October, but absent that bringing a new macro dynamic into the picture, we feel like our demand outlook Has stabilized and we're feeling good about our back half. And then Don referenced there have been some bright spots, things like power tool POS at the very end of the quarter and we'll see.

Speaker 5

Those things may emerge I think throughout this year given the Fed actions. I'd say the broader demand environment has actually surprised us in the sense that it hasn't been more challenging. And so hopefully those positive trends continue and if they do they present upside.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question Comes from the line of Chris Snyder with UBS. Your line is now open.

Speaker 4

Thank you. I wanted to follow-up on the earlier commentary on the bridge Into 2024. And I understand if you annualize the back half, you're at $3 EPS, but the back half is a seasonally low point. It feels like if we Adjust for seasonality, we're already closer to $4 of annualized EPS. And you guys also said next year, it sounds like gross margin up, Maybe in the low 30s versus the high 20s.

Speaker 4

That's obviously a very significant EPS tailwinds. And it feels like that would more than offset the incremental step up So can you just maybe provide some more color on that? Thank you.

Speaker 2

Well, I think what I articulated and Pat added some detail to it, more robust detail to it. It's a pretty good summary of where we think we are at this point. And you could build a bullish case that the numbers should be higher for next year, but you do have to factor in the fact that We really want to make sure that we continue to invest in certain key things in our company. We have to get more resources out in the field closer to our end users. We need to have more engineering resources in key pockets to drive additional innovation opportunities.

Speaker 2

We've talked about electrification. We want to continue to do that in certain categories that are changing very rapidly. We have to continue to invest in that space. There's more investing we need to do on the digital marketing front around social media and the activities that we do with our products to really make our end users As fully aware as to the great innovation machine that we have and what we're putting in the marketplace, those are things that we have to continue to invest in. So we want to strike the right balance in 2024 of earnings in the sense and cash flow of what's the opportunity for growth As we look at the markets and evaluate that later this year going into 2024, we have a good sense of what's going to happen with gross margins as Pat articulated.

Speaker 2

And then the other wildcard is really how much do we want to invest to really plant more seeds for share gain opportunities in the future. That's an important part of our business model that's going to ensure that we're successful for the next several decades, and we want to make sure we do it in the right way and the right Level of balance, and that's why we think as you think about next year, that range of 4% to 5% probably makes sense. If we change our perspective because of market conditions or How much we want to invest, we'll provide that as soon as possible. But I think it's the right way to think about next year at this stage.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Nicole DeBlase with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open.

Speaker 10

Yes, thanks. Good morning, guys.

Speaker 2

Good morning.

Speaker 10

Maybe just a couple of follow ups from prior questions that were asked. So On pricing, can you just characterize the competitive environment that you're seeing, anything concerning out there? And then with respect to the channel inventory dynamics In the Tools business, I think you guys talked about some channel adjustments this quarter. Is the expectation that that kind of

Speaker 2

Sure. So I'll take the pricing question, and I'll pass the channel inventory question over to Pat. I think where we are is we're seeing a lot of different Things occurring around deflation in the freight space. So I think when we look at freight, we've all seen freight costs have gone down dramatically. We're experiencing that.

Speaker 2

We're seeing that benefit in our P and L and we'll continue to try to leverage that opportunity as much as possible. On the metal side and commodity space, we're seeing a little bit of indication that things are starting to pull back as far as commodity prices. And so we're chasing that opportunity. But overall, the commodity basket for us is not moving down dramatically at this stage. Now we are pursuing these opportunities to ensure that we actually get the benefit when they do emerge later this year or into next year, depending on how that plays out.

Speaker 2

But also we have to recognize that we probably won't see much of that benefit here in 2023, just given the level of inventory we have on our books, and That will get hung up in the inventory, and we'll read through eventually in 2024. So the question then becomes, what does that mean to pricing? And What adjustments do we need to make? What's happening in the market? And at this point, we feel like our pricing is where it needs to be versus market conditions and the competitors.

Speaker 2

We tend to want to be, especially with brands like DEWALT, at a premium versus many of our competitors. And we feel like right now the pricing position is in a healthy place, And so we don't see any need for any adjustments associated with that. If deflation becomes a bigger number as we go into 2024, we will continue to look at that And evaluate that. However, we do have to remember that as we went through this historical inflationary cycle, We did not get 100% price recovery on that. It took many quarters for the pricing actions to get into our Customers, and so we experienced a lot of margin pain in that transition period.

Speaker 2

And so there has to be a tail at the back end associated with this deflationary cycle, whatever it is. And we're going to work with our customers in a balanced way to do the right thing For ourselves, our company and for them, and we'll continue to take that approach as we've done in the past, and we think it's the right approach for this particular cycle. Pat, you want to talk about where we are with channel inventory and where we're going?

Speaker 5

Yes, Nicole. Channel inventories, we look at our Current level of channel inventories relative to history, we're very much at or right around normal levels of channel inventory. And so I think if there wasn't macro uncertainty or if short term rates weren't as high as they are, We would be biased to stay where we are or to the upside. But I think because of the rate picture in particular With our channel partners paying much more in short term rates to support their inventory And the fact there is macro uncertainty, their bias is to keep things low and if not to try to find new lows. We don't think there's big moves out there ahead of us, something very modest.

Speaker 5

And I would say our back half guidance Anticipate somewhere in the neighborhood of $50,000,000 to $100,000,000 of inventory reduction in our guidance As we've talked here today and we think that's a pretty good number for the back half of the year. I mean obviously it could range outside of that if the macro environment changes, But that's what we've considered for the back half of the year.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Adam Baumgarten with Zelman and Associates. Your line is now open.

Speaker 5

Hey, good morning. Good morning. Could you just talk

Speaker 3

about how Can you just talk

Speaker 5

about how demand trended throughout

Speaker 3

the quarter into July? It seems like it built throughout the quarter and the July commentary is pretty encouraging. Just Maybe some additional color there would be helpful.

Speaker 2

Well, I think the markets are Do have some volatility to them. However, when you step back and look at the trends that have been emerging in the 1st 6 months Of 2023, we all know it was a very challenging outdoor season. And everyone in the industry experienced it, we experienced And the higher price ticket items, as I mentioned in my presentation, continue to be a pressure point. There is no doubt that the outdoor business went through a bubble during the pandemic, and there was a lot of purchasing activity because people were at home, and And we're starting to see the back end effect of that here in 2020. We experienced some of it last year.

Speaker 2

We're experiencing more here again in 2023. And then we'll see what 2024 brings in the future. The trends in POS continue to be positive and I said that in my comments. July has been a good start to the quarter. At this point, it's not something that is an indication that we I feel like we're going to outperform expectations.

Speaker 2

As Pat said, it's a potential upside for us to evaluate and monitor as we go throughout the summer, And we'll see where things are trending. But the consumer continues to shift a lot of money away from home improvement, and we just have to make sure that we continue to monitor that and see what happens. So I look at it as an opportunity and a positive that hopefully evolves as the back half plays out. But I don't want to get too excited about 3 or 4 weeks of activity at this stage.

Operator

Thank you. I would now like to hand the conference back over to Dennis Lang for Closing remarks.

Speaker 1

Shannon, thanks. We'd like to thank everyone again for their time and participation on

Speaker 5

the call. Obviously, please contact me if you

Speaker 1

have further questions. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect.

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